Road Trip After Hours w/ WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long and Host Mac Davis

Vince McMahon TELL ALL BOOK?!

Mac Davis and WWE Hall of FamerTeddy Long

A rumor can spark nostalgia—or demand answers. We dive headfirst into the buzz around a possible Vince McMahon tell-all and ask the bigger question: what would a raw, unfiltered account mean for fans who lived the booms, the scandals, and the sale? From there we move into the realities fans feel in their wallets and in their seats: rising WWE ticket prices, empty patches in arenas, and the slow drip of trust when storylines fizzle before they land. Expect candor, a few laughs, and a direct look at how to make wrestling feel real again.

Teddy Long lays out the fundamentals that still move crowds—selling that hurts, finishers that finish, and ring psychology that scales when a smaller wrestler faces a powerhouse. We talk about why authority figures need true on-screen control to anchor weekly shows, and how booking loses gravity when talent overrules the GM mid-segment. If you’ve missed that electric build when a crowd knows the signal and everyone rises for the finish, we’re right there with you.

We also shine a light on where the future can be found: independent promotions and rising talkers who can cut promos that bend a room. Fresh minds in creative, backed by veteran guidance, can restore continuity without slowing the pace. And yes, we rank bookers, weigh the odds of Attitude Era-level heat returning, and debate whether Vince appears at John Cena’s final match. Come for the big questions, stay for the solutions built on ring craft, believable stakes, and a product that respects its audience.

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SPEAKER_00:

And we're back with an all-new road trip after hours live on a Thursday night. I'm your host, Mack Davis, and of course, with me right here is WWE Hall of Famer, Mr. Teddy Long. Hey Teddy.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, I just want to say uh that's a great interest. Uh you changed things up, and uh that was really nice. I could sit back and watch the opening, and I really enjoyed that. So, you know, if you can just make me comfortable like that, I'd appreciate it. Because I'm always nervous with you. I really am. I never know what you're gonna do.

SPEAKER_00:

No, you don't. You're absolutely correct. Yeah, there's a bunch of actually, Teddy. I look back today uh through some of our older uh openings that we used in the early days of the uh the show when we were doing the podcast. Oh man, there's some I gotta bring those back. This there's some really good ones in there, uh, especially the early ones where uh we're driving down the road and there's smoke coming out the windows, and yeah, yeah. We gotta have a little throwback to some of those things. You know, just before we got on air, Teddy, I want to kind of say this publicly because uh this is kind of funny to me, but you were talking about you're gonna go to uh your lady friend's house, Miss Denise, uh, for Thanksgiving, and she was asking you about dinner. Uh first of all, what did you ask for? What do you want for that Thanksgiving meal?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, we were talking about the turkey, and I was explaining uh that, but I really didn't want that. I wanted uh those reels that she made that uh last time. I brother, I ain't never in my life had any reels that did just fall off the bone. I mean, it wasn't tough. I I mean it's just like eating candy or something, man. It's unreal. So I said that, and then she asked me about the sweet part, and I told her, I said, Well, you know, banana pudding, I I um you got me hooked on that. So uh we were we were talking about that today, uh, just before I called you and we got on the air here. We were talking me and her were talking about the banana pudding.

SPEAKER_00:

And I know you were telling her you that you've got to be careful because you don't eat like this all the time.

SPEAKER_01:

And oh, she she brings me a lot on a plate, too, you know. And I have to let her know, you know, Denise, you know, but you know, she just wants to make sure I got enough food and she likes to feed me.

SPEAKER_00:

So uh I've seen you in catering before at some of these uh independent shows, and and Teddy says he doesn't eat much, but Teddy he eats a little bit, but he eats a little bit all day throughout the day. So it's never he's never you never catch Teddy actually gouging himself with food. That I've never seen that happen, except for the dog.

SPEAKER_01:

I I do sit down, you know, when I prayed when I was going to Cater, and I sit down when I first got the TV and I'd eat a little bit of meal there, but then back and forth ripped and running, I'd slap by catering, pick up something, she's snacking.

SPEAKER_00:

I I was also uh mentioning to you that uh my wife, when when I first met my wife, we'll get into wrestling in just a second. When I first met her, you know, women are are really smart, they know how to how to catch a man if if that's what they're wanting to do, simply by you feed his belly with good food. Man, you you got a guy that that you that's the easiest way to get a guy, really. It is if you're trying to get one of us, all you got to do is prepare a good meal, good food that you took time with in love with. Oh, and we couldn't ask for anything better. Well, maybe one or two other things, but you know, uh that that's beside the point. Hey, look, uh Teddy, I mentioned this, uh, and people have probably seen the thumbnail, uh, where Vince McMahon uh is in the image and it's uh is he gonna be doing a tell-all? JBL, your buddy JBL has recently said that he believes a book, a tell-all book, and he means he says no punches pulled will come out within the next two years, if not sooner. Does that surprise you?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, what's what's the tell all book about?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it's is it's Vince McMahon giving his uh his view on all the things, nothing's held back. JBL when he talked about this honestly, it felt like he knew a lot more than he was giving in to say if he's if he's speaking on it, then he does know a lot more than my guess. Yeah, so and he's he's saying it's gonna be a tell-off book, it's gonna be one of the best books ever written, is what he is along those lines. I'm just kind of paraphrasing him, but well, he believes this is gonna be a just huge, huge book.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I well, I believe that too. You know, uh, like I said, uh, Vince is the creator, he he's the man that created all this. And uh for him to you know tell it all, uh, you know, I don't think he'll go into a whole lot of stuff, but I believe he'll give us enough, you know, to to let you know how he started and you know how did how he made money and how he did different ideas and you know how he made it work. So uh that's gonna be interesting. I'm I'm I'd I'd I'd like to read that myself, and I'm not a reader.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and I think anybody, you know, most people know who Vince McMahon is, uh, you know, if it's through wrestling or through entertainment or if it's through you know the latest news that got him all in trouble. Uh, most people know the name Vince McMahon. And one of my favorite things that when I watch something like on uh Netflix or you know, one of those channels, I'm looking more times than not for documentaries because I like learning about people and and and what made them tick and stuff like that. Vince McMahon, man, to really get a look at what what he says right from the man about his life, I think would be incredibly interesting.

SPEAKER_01:

And like I said, he's he's he's he's gonna be truthful with you. You know what I mean? Uh you know, he knows what to say and what not to say. So, you know, that's like I said, that's gonna be interesting to uh really see the other side of him, you know what I mean. Uh that's one thing I wished I could have done. I wished I could have traveled with him, you know, and spent a lot more time with him than I did when I was at TV and at work. Because I've understood when you're with him, you gotta learn. You're learning while you're around him. And that's what I know I had to do in order to stay around. I got to learn how to play this game. So I just wished I'd have had more time with him than he. But he gave me enough of his time and know, and he let me know in a lot of different ways, you know, where I stood. And you know what I mean. So I I appreciate that. And like I said, if it wasn't for him, we I wouldn't be doing the podcast here with you today.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, I'd be curious to find out too what he has to say about the entire uh thing of him being, you know, selling the company, then kind of being booted from the company. I I would imagine it again, uh JBL made this sound like this is going to be a tell-all book. You see, he's not holding back. So if that's the case, his take on what went down would be extremely interesting because he may get more involved in some of the family stuff uh than uh he was prepared to do. And now this is an opportunity where he can address and tell his side his truth. So it'll be interesting. Uh let's see, Zach Minger uh already popping in here. And by the way, if you'd like to be on today's show, all you got to do is just pop up a message on the screen and we'll throw it up there for you. Talk about it and uh discuss anything that you have or any questions you might have for Teddy or just wrestling in general. Zach Minger. Hey, Zach, good to have you in here, my friend. National Nachos Day, Mac and Teddy.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, well, thank you very much, Zach. Enjoy your National Nachos Day.

SPEAKER_00:

Plot twist Jones, Sandy hopes everyone is having a great day. Same to you, plot twist. All right, uh, let me see. There was one other thing I wanted to bring up with you, and I'm trying to think, oh, ticket prices. We're hearing that uh the ticket prices from Nick Khan uh are adjusted to what people are willing to pay today, basically. But their numbers, Teddy, and we'll get into this a little bit more because I think there's a letter about this. I don't want to get in too deep, but it they've got to do something when it comes to ticket pricing because I'm afraid that what's gonna what's happening to them now is what I've said for a while. You keep pricing the average fan out of the sport and being able to come to the show, you're eventually gonna lose that fan. And it appears to me that some of the latest trends now for WWE are showing that that's exactly the case, and they are losing that trend. Um when it comes to wrestling today, Teddy, and I know you don't watch it every show and you don't watch tons of it, but what you do watch, what is it that you feel is missing in today's product that needs to be put back in and make things a little bit more exciting uh than it is now?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I don't know. I think storylines uh play a big part. And I see them, they'll start something and then uh they don't finish it. So I don't understand, you know, how am I starting to follow something and then all of a sudden it's not there anymore? But now here comes something brand new that you want me to start all over again to see now, okay. Well, what's gonna happen here? So it just I don't think they've they give storylines a long a long enough time for the fans to digest and kind of see what's going on. Um, I see a lot happening with the selling. A lot of guys ain't selling nothing, man. I mean, it's uh Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh you know, I was doing a podcast, Teddy, with um I'm sorry, uh Bob Smith. Uh you met him uh while we no, you didn't meet him. You weren't there. I'm sorry. That was in New York. Anyway, he used to work with Bill Actor and PWI, and we were talking about uh how people don't sell in the fact that finishers are not real finishers anymore. I I still say, name me one finisher that somebody has not kicked out of or you know, lifted their whatever, you know, and I don't think anybody can. I don't think there is a finisher. It used to be Teddy. Let's say uh your finisher was the you know uh a DDT. You spent the entire match working up to getting that DDT on your opponent, did you not?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, you made the be you made the people wait on it, yeah. And you had that and you had that signal right there when it was time for it, you gave it, and the people knew it, and they're all right. Here it comes.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep, yep. See, that's the part that I think that that we're getting so worried about the match being exciting and being longer that they all become the same kind of match. Everybody's kicking out of the finishers left and right at the end, or somebody's running in and causing some kind of problem at the end of the match. It needs to go back to being a very simple product where you just go ahead.

SPEAKER_01:

It'll it'll never do that. Uh you know what I mean? They're gone now, they're out there now. So, like I said, the only thing I think is just too much. You know what I mean? Golly, how much wrestling can you see and watch? You know what I mean? So uh not saying cut cut nothing out, but just you know, kind of trim it down a little bit, put more time into some storylines that you know that's gonna work for you, that's gonna draw money, put some time into that, you know what I mean? And yeah, yeah, I I don't know. I I really I think they just got so much going on, man, to they're just going day to day.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and you know, and I understand they have to create a lot of content, and that's the big thing. You gotta have content, so they're gonna churn out that content, and quality in some cases gets lost because you're producing too much content. But I blame that on WWE, though, Teddy, because if you know that's a problem, then hire more people or do what you gotta do to adjust so the quality of the product does not go down in the process. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's just me. Uh, let's see, Curly Man, by the way. I saw you pop up here. I'm gonna throw you up in here again. Uh, curly man, good to see you in here saying hello, Teddy and Mac. Curly man, hello, player. And of course, uh, we have our lovely, pretty classy lady popping in again tonight. Good to see you, Mac and Teddy.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, how are you, young lady?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm sure she's doing good. And Teddy, uh, by the way, uh, we're gonna have a special guest with us. I'm thinking it's gonna be next week. Uh, hopefully that's the case. Uh, normally on Tuesday nights, and this was weird this week because normally you and I, we talk twice a week on Tuesday night and a Thursday night. Well, this past Tuesday, we didn't do our recording that we normally do with Bill after on Sports Kita's uh wrestle bench because they're shutting that channel down. And uh so we didn't get any time together. So Bill's gonna stop by and he's gonna be a part of the show uh every so often here on Road Trip After Hours, and he'll be uh coming in to join us. But in the meantime, just to give you an idea of what Bill's got coming up, it was all from the brains of Teddy, and this is coming to one wrestling video.com. And Teddy, the first one uh in shelter phone. Go ahead, uh Teddy.

SPEAKER_01:

Let me say this before you get started. Uh, that thing you were doing with Bill now. Uh I'm glad he thought about that because I mean, golly, you got here's Bill Aptor. The guy, excuse me, the guy's been around 50 years, just as long as me. He's talked to everybody in the world of professional wrestling. Some people he's talked to are dead and gone. So Bill After knows stuff that we probably may never know unless he reveals it. So he knows a lot of secrets, and he's talked with a lot of people that some stuff I know he knows he might not want to tell it, but maybe it may be time to tell it. So we're just gonna pick his brain and see what Bill After knows. And uh, like I said, it's it's top secret, and he does know a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

And by the way, as I mentioned, he'll be coming onto the show. Uh, when he does come onto the show, and I again I think this is next week, so start getting some questions. Uh just rock them around in your head a little bit because if there's something you always wanted to know, but you've never heard the answer to and you think Bill might know, ask him the question.

SPEAKER_01:

You never could get interviews with people that nobody else would talk to. Yes, they wouldn't even talk to nobody but Bill.

SPEAKER_00:

And a lot of the guys, too, uh Teddy, and I hear him say this all the time if it weren't for Bill After and the Aptor mags during the time that he was over there, they wouldn't be the stars that they were because it was the magazine and Bill that helped get their face out there. I mean, can you can you imagine today having somebody that uh, you know, you you the only outlet in your sport is a magazine and you know the top guy. And how are you not going to take advantage of somebody and and say, Man, I'd appreciate your friendship. You helped me, I'll help you. Let's see what we can do. And he did that for so many people, which is why he's become so legendary. So we look forward to having Bill after on the show soon. Uh, but Shelby in North Carolina, your question was uh SmackDown dropped below one million views last week. Lowest numbers in history. What does WWE need to do to get the fans to come back?

SPEAKER_01:

And Teddy, you pretty much answer that, but yeah, I just keep I I don't know what what they need to do. It's like I say, it's just I you you know, if you put people in positions, then you know you gotta give them some leadway to make the people believe that they're really that guy. And like I said, the authority figures there now.

SPEAKER_00:

Those both of those guys are great, uh Nick and uh Nick and uh oh man, if you haven't scrap, what's that guy, Lee?

SPEAKER_01:

I can forget his name every time, too, man. But anyway.

SPEAKER_00:

Adam Pierce.

SPEAKER_01:

Adam Pierce. They are great guys, you know, but I I need to see some real authoritism. You know what I mean? You know what I when I came, you know, that though the the thing that really got me over was when I said, okay, that's so that's how it's gonna be. Well, I tell you what, tonight, one-on-one, you know what I mean? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So and I thought about that just recently, Teddy, because Nick Aldous uh was in the back in one of these recent SmackDown shows, I'm saying within the last month. Um, and Sammy uh Zane was still the champion. And he went up to Nick and Nick says, All right, I just need you to calm down. We're not having a match tonight. I will not do a match tonight, blah, blah, blah. And Sammy says, Oh, yes, we are. I'm going to the ring right now. It felt to me like they cut him off. You know what I'm saying? They kind of neutered him right there. It's like he is the GM of your program, and the talent is telling the GM what they're gonna do. In fact, if you go back and look at a lot of those shows, he didn't even have matches lined up. They were making them on the in the back all through the night. It's like a real GM would have had his lineup, he would have known what his show consisted of, and he would have stuck to it, and the storyline would have reflected that in the authority of that figure. That does not exist. And I agree with you 100% when it comes to the general matters of the two shows. They do not have that real authority where you buy what they say, and so does the text.

SPEAKER_01:

Where you believe it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, yeah. All right, uh, question number two is Michael in South Carolina. He wants to know do you think Vince McMahon will be at John Cena's final match? There's a lot of rumors going around, people suggesting that he will be. Uh, Teddy, do you think so?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I don't know. You never know. Um, I mean, him and Cena, you know, they they were they were real good friends. And uh at the birthday party, Cena was one of the guys that was there at the table with me. So uh I I I wouldn't count it out. I mean, you know, Vince, he he has to he has to come back somewhere.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I just don't know if it that I would let him come back at that point. If I'm him, I'd want to come back at that point. He doesn't need it, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, um you don't have to do nothing with him if he comes back, but maybe if he comes back, you just show he's there, you know, to support Cena or something like that, and that's it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, unless there's bad blood between uh Vince and some of those at uh WWE, then he may just say, Well, I'm not gonna help you. Why should I? I mean, I'm removing me from my company. Why would I come help you? Well, I mean, because you know, the Vince McMahon that I know in the stories I've heard, I don't know that he would go shake hands with somebody who bit him, you know, and and be polite about it, especially if it's only gonna help them and not, you know, not him himself. Oh, maybe you know what I'm saying, though. Pretty flassy lady in here saying they need interesting storylines and real characters again. That's a start, and it is reality. Uh, you you've got to be able to believe what you're seeing on screen, and that's something I think that screams a lot of times. We I I love a lot of the talent in WWE. This is not a knock on the talent by any means, and they're talents to do what they do in the ring. But some people when when I see Naya Jax in the ring, and you got somebody that's about a quarter of her size, you know, come on. You know, that you take the believability right out of it, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

But you gotta look at it like this. There are no girls, you know, that's her size. There do no though, there's really no girls out there that's her size. So when you got her that big as she is, and with a smaller opponent, then that opponent needs to work like she's small. She's fucking little, then work like a little. You just bump around. Ain't really nothing you can do. You can try to get a few punches in, but now you don't sell that. She's you know what I mean. Look at her and then you know, take her down, you know. So just you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_00:

That you can work it smart, I agree with that. But if you're coming out and and let's say Nia Jax, we all know how big Nia Jax is, and I'm just gonna say you know, a name, and and you'll understand, Becky Lynch. She comes out to the ring and she's rocking like this, like she's just the baddest bitch you've ever seen. Nia Jax is up in that ring, and you look like somebody who's just about to get smeared all over that ring, and that in reality is what people expect to see. So that's that's good heat. Yeah. So, all right, so let's see. Rough cut. Well, let's see. Uh there it goes. Rough cut. Rick Ruby, good to have you in here, Rick. NXT evolved, and TNA is where it's at to see intriguing wrestling in ring stories. I said what I said. Hey man, look, uh, there's a lot of these shows. Uh, and I even made a comment about this. Teddy, I know you've been on the independence uh working, and there's a lot of talent and a lot of uh people out there that are just as entertaining as what you see on TV. And in some cases, maybe even more creative than what you see on TV. Would you agree with that, Teddy?

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, I would. I then uh there's a guy now that uh I started when I was out, and you and I was out in Texas with SWE uh Matt Castellano. I don't know whether you remember him, but he's over now with uh Booker with uh Booker T with Reality of Wrestling. And I always told him, God damn it, you cut the best promos in the world. And I and I saw him on a promo uh with reality of wrestling, and he's doing real good there. I sent him over there to see Book Man, and he's a they could now they could use him, but they won't give people like that a chance.

SPEAKER_00:

That that's a shame. Max, uh, I remember him specifically. Uh he was one of the very few. He's a friend of mine on Facebook. He is one of the very few from that time. Man, he had everything. You could look at him. He was TV ready when I met him. He has that look. He's the the girls will love him.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh we did some good stuff, man. Remember where we had him blind and he did the way blinds the guy with Cloroxy through it. Oh man, we did good stuff there, man.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, he's just just great talent. So I'm glad to hear that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, Mass Casalano there. He's with reality arresting, man. Great guy.

SPEAKER_00:

Very cool. E Money. I'm sorry, C Money. Holla holla. Holla back at you, C Money. All right, so we got a few more minutes here. Charlton in New Jersey ask. I'm looking at the uh the choices and the questions here going, huh? I don't know. Uh, who is the better booker and you have to rank one to three? In other words, uh, number three, and the one being your favorite. Okay. So let's start from the back. Uh who's your third? I can already tell you what this is gonna be. Who is your third choice when it comes to bookers? Vince McMahon, Triple H, or Tony Khan? Vince. No, no, Vince would be your number one, I would imagine, right? Well, yeah. Oh, okay. All right, so we know now Vince is your number one, who's your number two?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh well, I don't know anything about Tony Khan, so I've had the opportunity to work with Hunter for a little bit, so I would say uh Triple H.

SPEAKER_00:

All right. Between this is where it gets tricky, between Vince McMahon and Triple H, who's the better booker overall? Vince McMahon. I agree with that. Totally agree with that. That's that that was a good question. Samantha on Facebook writes, do you believe we will ever see wrestling reach the heights again of the attitude era?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, yeah, you're gonna have to change power. That's that's that's what's going on right now. You know, that the the power needs to change, you know. People need to come into the sport now that a younger mind and kind of know what the what what the 20th century is all about. So uh I think once you know we they do that and just start up start new, bring fresh people in and stuff, you know, I think things might, you know, work out then.

SPEAKER_00:

I was doing a uh one of the other shows that I do uh with uh a talent uh and when we were talking about that, the suggestion, and this is Vince Russo was the other person, he has suggested that there are there are like four people that really need to go that are in the top positions really within the company uh creatively that he feels like as long as they're there, nothing's gonna change. Is that kind of what you're saying, Teddy? That that some of the old guard eventually needs to kind of fade away and let the younger guys take over?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, you have to bring in the young mind, you know what I mean? And like I said, people in this business, you have to learn when to take the cape off. And a lot of guys don't know when to take the cape off, and it's really sad.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I just cracking me up. Rough cut, Rick Ruby. Uh, we were talking about the best bookers, and he says, You mean Dave Meltzer is not in the mix? So Dave Meltzer would not be in that mix. Uh, let's see, and uh let's see. Also, C Money is saying that Vince is not just number one, but he's number two and number three. I I can't argue that either. I really can't. Uh, he's also saying that we need wrestlers who work. We can't see through. Nobody throws a good working punch anymore. Uh, and that's true. It's because I think nowadays, Teddy, and correct me if I'm wrong, these guys, they they kind of act like yeah, we don't have to get as close and be as as tough because people know it's not real.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, what I think really needs to happen now, you know, you got so much going on. I think they need to designate one guy, just one guy to watch every match. And one veteran guy, got guy that knows what he's what he's doing and what he's talking about. And each match he watches, and he's like when a guy don't sell, he calls him to get on him right then. Just as soon as he comes back through that curtain, you get on his ass right there. And I don't think that's happening now. Somebody, some of the agents may be saying something to him, but you know, you're not letting them know the importance of selling. That's what's gonna draw your money. Okay, so I I designate one guy, and he has to be a badass. So let the guy know, hey, this ain't how it goes, this is fucking how it goes. And maybe you might punch him. Yeah, you know what I mean. Did you feel that? Okay, to you know, give him a working punch, but guys that know how to work, they can they can go there, you know, and not hurt you.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah. Look, get a lot of guys, if there's not any real contact of sorts, then you're probably not throwing the bunch like you ought to be. It's almost like a I don't know how to explain it. Don't even know that I want to explain it, but I will say that uh it's not that difficult. And if you even if you do hit someone harder than you expect to hit them, you're not gonna tear their head off. You're not gonna knock them out if you're smart. And the fans are gonna believe it more if they see that contact, and they will if they see you six inches away from the guy's face. And then they're gonna go, uh, that takes me straight out of a match. Because a lot of times, some of the best matches are places where we think there is legitimate heat between the two wrestlers behind the scenes. Not that it's part of the storyline, but it's part of the behind the scenes element that everybody talks about all the time. And you find out, oh, this guy doesn't like this guy, and now they're working together. I mean, I bet they're gonna throw some heavy punches in this thing. That's what I want to see. I don't want to see a six-inch separation between their face and the fist. I want to see contact because I want to believe what they are telling me in the ring. That's just me. All right, Teddy, we're out of time. I'm gonna get off my soapbox. Who are we gonna go to tonight for a t-shirt from Road Trip After Hours?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh, we'll send it to whatever the gentleman's name there asks me something about SmackDown.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh okay, that is uh actually uh Shelby. This is awful. I don't know if that's a guy or a girl, but Shelby. Uh my band. But we'll uh we'll get that out to you. Uh I will get in touch with you about the uh contact information. We'll send it out. All we ask is that you just simply put it on, take a picture or send it back to us, and we'll throw it up on the screen when we get those. Anything else you need to talk about, Teddy, before we get out of here.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I think I'm good. Oh, I'm gonna be in uh Buffalo, New York on uh November 21st. Yeah. Um big uh meet and greet. I'm gonna be there then as a big wrestling show. So uh I'll give you more information on it as uh time goes.

SPEAKER_00:

That sounds good. I got it uh to get up in the morning now and go film for uh that TV deal that I'm doing. And I'm gonna be a rodeo clown.

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That's good. That's really good. I don't know who's doing this stuff, but tell them tell them I like them. They're giving you the right. That's great.

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They're gonna have me out there with the damn bull, scaring the hell out of me. I can see it coming. Yeah, I wouldn't be this. This may be the last show we do. We never know. I'm out of here. I'm Mac Davis, your host, and that of course is WWE Hall of Famer, Teddy Long. And this has been Road Trip After Hours. We'll see you again next Thursday night, seven o'clock live Eastern time. Alain