Road Trip After Hours w/ WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long and Host Mac Davis
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Road Trip After Hours w/ WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long and Host Mac Davis
Wrestling Road Trip Tales From White Castle To Toll Booths
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One minute we are arguing about whether National Hot Dog Day is even real, and the next Teddy Long is telling a road story that ends with White Castle making him so sick he cannot stop throwing up before a signing. That is the magic of Wrestling’s Road Trip After Hours: it sounds like a casual hang, but it is packed with the kind of wrestling travel stories, backstage memories, and unfiltered opinions you only get from people who lived it.
We bounce through fan questions on everything from action figures and the Skyscrapers to JBL calling Teddy “frugal” and the toll booth tricks that helped him dodge paying. Teddy also shares a terrifying moment where Dan Spivey wakes him up just in time to avoid sliding under an 18 wheeler, with Mac adding his own modern version from the independent wrestling road. If you love classic WCW, WWF, and WWE stories, this one delivers real detail and real stakes.
Then we get into the bigger wrestling debate: does the WWE product feel better now, or did Vince McMahon understand story, pacing, and the wrestling fan in a way that is missing today? We connect that to ticket prices, what feels overly polished, and why respect for the business still matters. Along the way we hit Dark Side of the Ring, social media confusion, music tastes, Rhea Ripley talk, Rocky King memories, and a final dinosaur question that somehow makes perfect sense at the end of the night.
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Welcome And How To Join Live
SPEAKER_01And it's another Wednesday night, and this is Wrestling's Road Trip after hours. I'm your host, Mac Davis, and that, of course, is my ball-headed buddy. Uh, actually, your head's just about in there, just right. A little crooked, and kind of got that old Batman feel, you know, where the where the villains always kind of crooked in the scene. There you go. That looks better. That looks better. Okay. I'm glad to see you work so hard on the background.
SPEAKER_00Real easy. This is how it's always been.
SPEAKER_01I might see you soon. I gotta I gotta tell you about that too. I'll be coming up uh your way soon and uh want to kind of see if we can't catch uh catch up while I'm there. Um man, let me tell you something. We we've had a lot of fun in the last few weeks. You guys have been lighting up the comment section uh for us each and every week. And and I was telling somebody the other day just how much I enjoy the show when it rolls that way, because that really makes it easy on Teddy and I. It's so easy just to be to sit back and answer the questions you have instead of just filling your head full of stuff that you've probably heard 50,000 times in other places. Uh, so we appreciate you doing that. And by the way, if you want to be a part of the show, it's really simple. We ask a few things. Uh, first of all, that you share this and please let everybody know that we are live right now. We can grow the number in the room. Uh, also, uh, if you will hit the subscription button down below. Uh, also the notification bell, whatever's down there to let you know uh when we come up live. Uh, that way you'll never miss uh a brand new episode when we're dropping it live, uh, which is what we are right now. And if you want to be a part of the show, listen to how simple this is. No super chats or super uh uh clubs, whatever they call them now. Uh, you don't have to pay for anything to ask a question on this show. On this show, it's all about you. So just simply leave us your question, we throw it up on the screen, and you are our show. And that's how we've always wanted to do it. And Teddy, I know that's how when we first talked, we said we wanted this to be their show, not us.
SPEAKER_00Right. They you know, you know, they know me and you.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what else do you want to know? Although, if you do leave us a comment like Zach Minger each and every
National Hot Dog Day Debate
SPEAKER_01week, you'll find out stuff like this. It's national hot dog day, Teddy and Mac. Oh, Jesus. Are we supposed to really? I'm starting to wonder, Zach. Now, are these legit? Is this is this actually hang on for a minute. Teddy, uh, you want to talk about anything? Wow, look something up here. I just want to.
SPEAKER_00Drag is just making this stuff up. There's no such thing as national hot dog day. Oh my god. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Well, I don't know. But let me before I say that, it might be.
SPEAKER_01Oh man, National Hot Dog Day is celebrated annually on the third Wednesday in July. Okay, so yeah, yeah, it is National Hot Dog Day. He's absolutely correct.
SPEAKER_00Wow. Well, Zach, I apologize. I I'll take every whatever I say, I take it back. You know, you know what you're doing.
SPEAKER_01Hey, it made you look bad, Teddy. Uh, let's see what else we got. We got a lot of people dropping into the room here. Uh, we also have uh someone saying, please share. Yeah, please share this around. Also, uh Ellen saying, Hey guys, hope you are both doing fantastic. Buddy says hello, and he misses you, Teddy.
SPEAKER_00Well, I love I miss Betty too, man. It's always good to see him and Ellen uh when we make the independent scene, do a lot of the independent shows, and they're there, because they're such nice people. I mean just real nice. So, buddy, holler at a player.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, uh, we we keep saying we're gonna get him on the show, and we are gonna get him on the show because I I think a lot of people, as many times as we talk about them that uh Teddy, they they've got to meet them too. Uh just uh great people, uh, as you say. All right, Dave uh is popping in the room saying, Teddy, did they ever make a figure of you or the skyscrapers? And you and Mac should make a two-pack of figures for fans to get signed. Just my opinion.
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah, I'd like to do that, but they never made anything uh with me and the skyscrapers. I nothing, nothing at all.
SPEAKER_01No, no, and that's you know, the skyscrapers. I heard you uh talk about this recently somewhere, and I can't remember where I saw this, but you were talking about the skyscrapers, and legitimately uh Dan Spivey and uh Sid, when they were together, man, I mean, that was a team, Teddy. That was I mean, I I think people forget because it didn't last as long as it should have. And let me ask you, why didn't it last that long? Was it a talent issue?
SPEAKER_00Well, I don't really know. I think it might have been might have been a talent issue. You know, Sid Vishus, God rest his soul. Uh, you know, he went off and did some stuff with uh he was involved with softball or something. I don't know, but a lot of times he didn't make the shows or something because he had to go do something with the softball. So that would have, you know, it might have been a talent issue. I don't really know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think and it it was a really great tag team uh at the time.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes, they were hot tag team.
SPEAKER_01Uh Antonio uh popping in the room and he's saying uh hello Mac and hello Teddy. Same thing from Wolfpac Main. Hey, brother, saying yo, Mac Teddy. All right, boy back a and he's also saying team JCW. Yep. Hey, brother, I'll see you soon. Uh we'll be uh I'm not sure if I'll see you in Ohio,
Action Figures And The Skyscrapers
SPEAKER_01but I'll be in Ohio uh next weekend. Uh let's see. Dave is asking, I think we may have talked about this one time before. Uh, do you guys like White Castles? Teddy.
SPEAKER_00Uh brother, I hadn't had a White Castle in I don't know when. Had to be 30 years ago. Uh I knew I'll tell you a story about the White Castles. Uh, me and uh Bob Orton, uh Randy Orton's uh father, uh I forget where we were, but uh we we we we uh we went to this restaurant and no, we went somewhere else, and then we smoking, and after we got all blitzed, then we went to White Castle.
SPEAKER_01So I think we bought about what were you smoking, Teddy? Smoking cigarettes?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, cigarettes. Okay. Back in the day I smoked cigarettes. Wacky tobacky. So after we got after we got you know blitzed, got blitzed, we went to White Castle, and I think we bought about 20 White Castles. And that night, I golly, I I I know I had to, I know I ate eight or nine of them. But the next day I had a signing with uh uh Butch and Ron in Philadelphia and the White Castles, after I'd ate all of them, they made me so sick, I was just throwing up every three minutes. I mean, brother, I I never felt that bad in my entire life. So that's our story about the White Castle. I think that's why I haven't had it. I didn't mess with it anymore.
SPEAKER_01We used to call them uh we we didn't have White Castle where I grew up and where I'm from in the southeast. Uh, we had Crystal, which is basically the same thing as a white burger.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And uh we used to call them belly bombs. We'd go out and you drink in uh nightclubs, and you you stop by, you know, uh crystal and grab you a sack full of belly bombs and you wouldn't feel it the next day. It was horrible. But at the time it was the best thing you ever put in your mouth, man.
SPEAKER_00Oh, they were they were good burgers, believe me.
SPEAKER_01They're like the sliders, yes, and they still sell those white castles, by the way, at the grocery store. I seen them. There's this, I think there's still a pack in my refrigerator right now or my freezer right now because I tend to, if I stay near the house, I'll just pop one of those in at lunchtime. It's you know, two in a pack, and you know, it's not that fattening. And man, that it brings back good memories from those days. Uh, because uh I got in a lot of trouble eating white castles and crystals. Let's see. Uh Bones Simmons, hey brother. Uh Mac Davis, you are professional wrestling. Hey man, I appreciate that very much, Bones. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_00Thank you, Bones. That's and you're exactly right. He is professional wrestling.
SPEAKER_01The real guy's right next to me. Uh Dave saying, Silver Scorpion. Uh yes, uh Steel Scorpion. That's what I went by. Uh Jason Simmons. Uh hey, Jason, good evening, gentlemen. Hope all is well. Hope you are as well, and uh hopefully uh your daddy is too. Uh all right.
SPEAKER_00I think thanks for popping
White Castle Regrets On The Road
SPEAKER_00in, Jason.
SPEAKER_01Uh let's see. We also have Dave saying burnt hot dogs barbecue are the best. Teddy, are you a hot dog guy? Do you like hot dogs? Uh, sometimes. How do you like your hot dog? Because I I'm particular about my how I eat a hot dog.
SPEAKER_00I like all I want is uh a little mustard ketchup and saukrut.
SPEAKER_01Do you like it grilled or do you prefer it being boiled or I'd rather have it grilled, but you know, however it comes.
SPEAKER_00You know, as long as you got that sauerkraut, I'm good.
SPEAKER_01My my favorite kind of hot dog has always been, and you hear about people talking about ballpark hot dogs. Uh man, they used to steam the buns and these steamers and the and and the uh hot dog would be in there. Man, those were some really good hot dogs. That's how I like my hot dogs. Now, my mother used to take uh she would boil those hot dogs in a pot, just like they kind of did there. And but she would boil the hot dogs and put over the top of the pot a strainer and then put the uh buns in the strainer so the steam would come up from the hot dogs and would steam the buns so you got that same kind of taste. And oh man, I I'm sitting here thinking about it, and I'm not a big hot dog fan, but that does so good right now.
SPEAKER_00I'll have a hot dog every once in a while, and right now the ones that I love are Nathan.
SPEAKER_01Yep, Nathan's they do have good hot dogs, they really do. Yes, they do, yeah. Legit hot dogs. Uh Wolfpack Main saying, shout out to the JCW Women's Division, and yes, absolutely, uh one of the best uh in uh uh independent wrestling right now, actually anywhere, as far as I'm concerned. Scott uh Lance is in the room. Good to see you in here, Scott. Hey guys, Teddy, JBL was talking about how frugal you are, especially when it was your turn to buy gas. Please tell a couple of stories to set the record straight. Yeah, please tell this.
SPEAKER_00Well, well, what I would do, you know, like if we went to Canada or somewhere, you know, you know, like before you tell this story, let me move way out of the way because I don't want to get struck by lightning as you tell it.
SPEAKER_01Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00Oh you know, right. Uh uh uh what what we what we did is um JBL would pull up to the toll booth. So then he would reach back there to me, thought I was ready with my money, you know, so we could pay the toll. So as soon as he got to the toll booth, you you can't hold the line up, you gotta keep going. I just put my hand in my pocket like I'm looking for the money, and I can't find it. So I'm just waiting until they rush him on through the line, you know what I mean? So that way I didn't have to pay.
SPEAKER_01Who was would you was JBL a tight wad too?
SPEAKER_00Oh God, yes. He does, I don't know how you could talk about me being uh uh a cheap. He was really cheap.
SPEAKER_01Well, give me an instance. What what kind of what kind of cheap would he pull off where you're like, how cheap can you be?
SPEAKER_00Well, he he would always his thing was he would always wait and uh him and run, he would always wait till he got to the bar. And then when uh people recognized us or something, then they would come up and talk to us and everything, and then they would offer us, you know, to buy us a drink. So that's how he got a lot of free drinks.
SPEAKER_01Well, you can't blame him for that, really. But uh No, I didn't.
SPEAKER_00I was in on the free drinks too.
SPEAKER_01Uh let's see, uh we have here. We also have uh boy, hey, a lot of you popping in here. Thank you so much. Uh mid-man Mick. Uh, I haven't eaten a hot dog in 20 plus years. Burger guy here. Hope you're doing well tonight, Mac and Teddy.
SPEAKER_00Oh, we're doing good too, man. And I'm a I'm a burger guy too. I tell you what, they got that. If you ever, if you haven't had one of these, please, and like I said, Whataburger is what they are. They're all over Florida and everywhere. And they have some now. I went to one in Carolina and uh uh was it Florence? I might have been Florence, but anyway, uh that that's a great hamburger. That Whataburger, brother, please get you one of them.
SPEAKER_01I there was a period of time where Arby's of all places was selling hamburgers, they were hand-padded kind of hamburgers, they were thick.
Hot Dog Rules And Burger Takes
SPEAKER_01They weren't, you know, today's hamburgers, you go to like if you go to Burger King, McDonald's places like that, the hamburgers, they're pressed. You know, you can tell they've been pressed and they just around disc and they throw it on the thing, and that's what you get. Right. Arby's was selling a good thick hamburger. I mean, like you would make it home. Like you would pad it together, throw it in the pan, and they quit selling the damn thing. It was the best burger in town. Beats the other burger places hands down.
SPEAKER_00Well, people weren't buying them. That's why. A lot of people don't want to eat healthy. So when you present something to them, you know, and they don't buy it, that the the that store is gonna quit selling them because they ain't, you know what I mean? You ain't making no money. Oh, yeah. I I tell you another thing too I like is the veggie burger. Uh they've they've got a uh place called Grind House uh and Killer Burger. Well, my good friend Jack Parisi, you know, his brother owns those. And so every once in a while, Jack will come and he'd say, Hey, let's go uh have lunch today. And we'd go over to the Killer Burger and we'd have the veggie burger. God, man, uh they are they are great.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they just sell veggie burgers there. Is that all?
SPEAKER_00No, they sell everything, every kind of burger you could think of, but I just happened to want wanted the veggie burger.
SPEAKER_01I know that uh Burger King one time uh they had their their plant burger, the veggie burger, I guess, that they were selling at one time, and it looked a lot like the uh like the Whopper. And I I ordered a Whopper and instead I got the veggie burger, and I didn't know it until a couple of bites later. I'm like, man, something ain't right with this. This don't taste normal. And I had to go up there and say, Oh, we gave you the wrong one. I'm like, Well, I can tell the damn difference. Uh I'm a meat guy, and I and Teddy, at the end of the day, I know you are too. It's meat, you know. I I want meat, you know.
SPEAKER_00You kind of like you like Denise, she's she won't eat the veggie burger either. So, you know, she ain't she ain't got you don't like them.
SPEAKER_01No, no. If I'm gonna have anything that resembles meat, it better be meat. And I and I like it a certain way too. I love prime rib, I love steak, and I like it you know, a little juicy. And some people just cook the juice and the flavor right out of stuff. Jason Simmons uh saying left-handed cigs. Yeah, that's definitely what uh Teddy was smoking back then, were left-handed cigarettes. Uh Madman Mick saying, Teddy, what do you think of Dan Spivey as Whalen Mercy? Loved it personally, he's looking back.
SPEAKER_00Oh, Dan was a great guy. Enjoyed working with him, man, every time. I mean, he was super nice. Dan Spivey saved our lives one night. We went to this restaurant, I forget where we were, but anyway, we went and had dinner, we had some drinks, and we had some other stuff, and so I'm driving. So the next thing I know is Dan Spivey is hitting me on the back, and he's trying, he's waking me up because I'm hit it under the back of an 18-wheeler. Oh shit. Okay. Well, Spivey had gone to sleep, you know, because I'm driving, you know, he's taking a nap, but he just happened to wake up and see what is going on, and he wakes me up in time for me to put on the brakes before I went up went up under his 18-wheeler.
SPEAKER_01Teddy, this is gonna sound strange. I lived that experience uh several, but maybe about two months ago on one of these JCW road trips. The guy who was driving started to nod off. And everybody else in the car, you know how it is, it's late at night. Everybody's just kind of relaxed, got their eyes closed, maybe halfway asleep. All of a sudden, it's just like everybody woke up at the same time, and you hear that whipping screaming, like what the because you see the semi coming, their lights are coming right at the windshield, and you're like, What? And I was awake, I was awake the whole time. I was just waiting to change lens at the last time. No, no, yeah, yeah, sure.
SPEAKER_00You were.
SPEAKER_01Oh man, yeah, that's that's a scary sight to see, too, when you first wake up and you see all you see are taillights of a semi coming right at you. Oh god, yeah. Uh well, how did you like him as Wailing Mercy, though, Teddy? Did you like that character, Wailing Mercy, with him?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, Spivey was a guy that whatever you gave him, he could pull it off. And so I don't think anybody else could have been Whaling Mercy, but Dan Spivey. Yeah, I enjoyed
JBL Toll Booth Tricks And Free Drinks
SPEAKER_00that. He he done a great job with that.
SPEAKER_01Scott's asking, uh, Maven recently made a comment that the product was better now, uh that Vince is no longer involved. Uh Scott says he 100% disagrees. It looks more like a polished Hollywood Spot Fest movie rehearsed to death. What do you guys think?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I disagree too. I I don't know what I don't know where maybe he's smoking too. Okay, yeah, yeah. I disagree with that totally. You know what I mean? There's never that product will never be what Vince created.
SPEAKER_01No, and and you know, here's the thing. Um there are a lot of negatives of Vince, as many as there are positives, but that's with anybody who's gonna be in any position like that. Everybody's gonna catch hell uh for something they're doing, whether you like it or not, because while you may love it, somebody's gonna hate it and they're gonna get very vocal about it. Uh and so you just kind of have to take what you get. But I think Vince had a better handle on how to handle wrestling business than what's being done now. I don't know if that makes any sense, and maybe only to maybe like Teddy, you might understand what I mean by that.
SPEAKER_00Well, Vince was always serious, Vince. You know what I mean? He didn't when when we went live or wherever we were, and Vince was sitting there at behind the controls. Uh, he stayed right on top of it, brother. And that's why he made it so good because he didn't play.
SPEAKER_01He also didn't he didn't want to screw the fans. I never got the impression that's the that's the big difference that I see. Vince, while he may have had some crazy ideas, has some brilliant brilliant ideas. Uh, but I also know that Vince was always concerned about the fan. And and I and I don't think that we would have seen a lot of things we see now when it comes to pricing the tickets and all these crazy things that now seem to be biting them in the ass because SummerSlam ticket sales are really bad. Uh, and that may be because you were, you know, people are used to those uh WrestleMania prices that were so outrageous. And you've already discounted the tickets, but people have already lost you know interest in paying that much money for a ticket. I I think Vince really, at the end of the day, he understood the wrestling fan and he knew how to maintain that viewership uh even through the bad days. He created this, okay? Just that simple. Uh Eric saying, Hey, Macinty. Hello, Eric. How are you? Also, Curly Man, hey Curly Man saying, Hello, Macinty. Teddy, what kind of flavor of fresca are you drinking tonight?
SPEAKER_00I'm drinking uh grapefruit. Oh no, I have the grapefruit, but tonight I'm drinking uh it's called peach. Citrus.
SPEAKER_01Peach citrus. Citrus. Yep. Peach citrus. There you go. And I do love peach. I've eaten peach, pineapple, rum.
SPEAKER_00I love, I love these frescos, man.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, man. Let's see. Uh also have uh Eric saying, Matt, great stuff on JCW and Teddy is a legend. I followed his career from the 90s WCW to WWF WWE. Thank you, Eric. I appreciate that, player. Yeah, man, we appreciate that very much. Again, if you want to be a part of the show, I know uh it sounds like uh, you know, we're just rattling off a lot of things here, but we got a lot of people leaving questions, and thank you so much for that. Make sure you share this, let more people get into the room, uh, and leave comments as well as uh, you know, like, share, subscribe, all that good stuff. Uh, let's see. Eric uh is uh no, I already got Eric. I'm sorry. Here we go. Mike Teddy, any Ray uh trailer or uh Jacques Rouge Rouge? Jacques Rougeau. Man, I can't get that out my mouth to save my soul. Do you have any uh memories of a Ray trailer or Jacques
Dan Spivey Saved Our Lives
SPEAKER_01Rougeau? Don't make me say it again. Um say that last name for me, Teddy. I know I can say it, but I can't for the life of me I can't do it now.
SPEAKER_00I'm like Jacques. Uh I'm kind of like I'm kind of like you. I can't hardly get that out either. Uh I don't have any any any any memories, but uh these guys were great. Ray Trailer, uh big boss man, uh, you know, is when he went by too. Uh he was such a guy, Lee. What a real nice guy. And uh I enjoyed working with him. And I said, oh, I know what I can tell you. One night, I uh we was in Ohio, I think is where it was. And so Ray, he was uh we got ready to leave the arena to go back to the hotel. And so Ray was driving. So we're all sitting in the car, you know, doing what we do, you know, waiting. And the next thing I know, we're going over the median onto the other side. We're now we're on the wrong side of the road, and Ray's driving. So uh that was uh pretty pretty frightening.
SPEAKER_01See the road, the road stories that those are real stories. Yeah, shit that you can't believe years later. Did how do we survive that?
SPEAKER_00All right, thank God every day. Thanks for saving me because I ain't had a clue.
SPEAKER_01No, Matt uh in the room saying, Hey Mac and Teddy, good to see you, Matt. All right, Matt. Uh Mick is saying, I wish we had a whataburger here in my area. I wish we had a lot of those things down the south because you know, as I travel, the places I travel have restaurants we don't have down here. It there is a you know a regional change of where the certain restaurants.
SPEAKER_00You're close to Savannah, and they've got one there. They have one in Savannah now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. Now that'd be interesting. I know they have a uh what's the other one? Wah burgers, they have one of those down in Savannah too, I believe.
SPEAKER_00Uh, which is I had one of those, those were not bad. I had one of those the last time I was in Vegas, uh, because I, you know, couldn't find no food and I was able, I didn't have any transportation, so I was able to walk to the to the Wahl burger. Yeah, it was it was it was good too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I do like a good burger, and they do make good burgers, I will say that. Uh Elijah uh is saying, uh, I'm not into healthy food. I tried to even working out one time, it doesn't work for me. I think I did it because I like the girl that I like. That's that's usually the reason why a lot of us men do things we do because of a girl that we like. Things we never thought we would do, we end up doing anyhow. Exactly. Matt saying, We need a special appearance from Teddy in JCW. Uh I hear you, brother. I hear you. Uh, also, uh Martin's daddy, Teddy and Mac. What's up, Playas? Uh, we good, Playa. Also, uh, we have Ophelia. I hope I'm saying that right. That my screen's really small where I am. Am I saying that right? Ophelia, I think I'm right. Uh Teddy, uh, what's your thoughts? So Vince Russo, because we know JBL can't stand him, and Mac is Russo's friend.
SPEAKER_00Well, I I have no really no comment about him. I can't stand him either.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you know, here's the thing that uh Teddy and it and all you guys that I work with, they know how I am. Uh I I like who I like because they're people I tend to get along with, basically uh past history of other people I don't know anything about, and I tend not to care about. And Teddy knows that. Yeah. Uh and and Teddy knows his business too.
WWE Today Versus Vince’s Era
SPEAKER_01And uh, you know, I think at the end of the day, I think Teddy and uh Vince would get along just fine, really.
SPEAKER_00No, no, I no, no, we wouldn't because anybody, I have a lot of respect for the wrestling business. I've been doing this a long time. And anytime somebody will get on national TV live and tell Hulk Hogan to kiss their ass, you know. I mean, on T, come on, there's certain things you don't do. Then you got kids that are watching the show, you got them that they're in the arena. So some things you just don't do, and that's just total disrespect to the rest of them being on my that's the way I feel about it.
SPEAKER_01So now let me let me ask you why we're talking about this because you made me think of Beyond the Ring, which I have watched the first three episodes. Teddy, have you watched those? No, oh, the first three episodes, uh, where it's Jeff Jarrett and TNA.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, oh well, yeah, I've been watching that. I didn't, I thought it was a title something else. It wasn't uh Beyond the Ring.
SPEAKER_01Uh or story, uh something like that. Hell, I can't remember what it's called. But anyhow, it's uh that that new uh series that's out right now, fantastic stuff.
SPEAKER_00I watched it uh I watched it last night. Uh they had a new episode last night. And the reason, you know, I'm glad I did too, because oh no, one thing about the Vice channel, they are for real. They don't lie, and they're able to put out the truth. And I heard some Jeff said that, you know, a lot of times when people uh get fame, it changes them. You know, and he Jeff said, no, it doesn't change you, it reveals you. Yeah, it really, you really find out who they really are, and that's true because I've experienced that.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Martin's daddy uh saying, what match is harder to referee in singles? Uh is it singles or a tag match, Daddy?
SPEAKER_00Uh, well, I mean, they all tag or single, they're all the same. You know what I mean? I guess maybe the tag would be a little bit harder because you got four guys there you got to try to keep up with, you know, instead of single, you know, you only got two guys. But uh, like I said, when I was working, you know, tag single, whatever it was, you know, it didn't it didn't bother me.
SPEAKER_01The only thing I think that most referees, after a while, especially if you did like Teddy did in the early days, where you worked every single match, uh, how many times are you having to get up and down? You know, how many how many penantips are going to take place because that can wear somebody out. I mean, especially Teddy. I I still to this day don't know how you can do that many matches in a row and not have terrible knees at this age.
SPEAKER_00I did 16 matches on the uh uh the the Saturday morning, WCW Saturday morning, I think what it was, and uh I was the only rep. And it was 16 matches on that show, and I did every last one of them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that takes a lot, guys. A lot if you don't know. Elijah uh saying, quick question, guys. Wwe is having a return. Uh, everybody thinks it's big cass, but I don't believe that's him. If you guys saw the video advertisement, Teddy, have you i i did see some stir about this today? The big gas was on his way back to WWE.
SPEAKER_00Um well I heard that they were bringing Enzo back and that they were gonna bring Caz and put them put them together.
SPEAKER_01And I think this is an NXT, correct? This is not uh on one of the uh SmackDowns or Raw. I believe this is on NXT, but I don't know. Yeah, I I I'm really not sure. I I do believe though it is Big Cass because everything I heard today pointed to the fact that Big Cass was back with the company. So uh, but you know, again, you know, rumors are rumors, you never know until they show up on TV. Uh Jason Simmons is saying that he's talking about WWE, I assume, is uh the product today sucks, uh, or just wrestling in general today, and uh a lot of people feel that way. A wrestling historian saying, Mr. Long, why did you set your Twitter account to private? We want to read your tweets. Ha ha. I didn't set it. I don't know what you got that from. He's had some problems with uh his Twitter feed. Let me just see, I'll just pull it up.
SPEAKER_00Maybe his guy here is maybe might not have me. That might be a fake.
SPEAKER_01That's what I'm thinking, because there are a lot of times uh that that happens, and uh, well, I can't pull. Yeah, I can. I'm trying to sit here and pull you up. Yeah, I act like I'm a completely blind individual, and trust me, I am. Ask Teddy. I've re I've driven over curbs
Twitter Trouble And Live TV Lessons
SPEAKER_01before at night time.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I can't see that well either. Begin to get some bifocus.
SPEAKER_01I I need to. I just I fight it so much, it's like, oh, the readers are fine. Uh, I don't see where he's locked out. I I do see that Teddy Long is uh open and uh no, he is locked. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're locked in, Teddy.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I don't know anything about it. I I hardly ever even go to Twitter. Well, I go if somebody sent me something on Twitter, I go to read or see what that is. So, but uh, like I said, I don't have a clue about this social media, so I might have locked myself down as well.
SPEAKER_01I I had somebody recently, I was doing a show, Teddy, and I and I was telling them, I said, the worst part about what I do is social media because I don't understand a lot of how social media works, and I'm just winging it. You and I starting this show, I'm telling you, we were winging it, we didn't have a clue what we were doing. And we still don't when it comes to even advertising or getting this thing out of here, we don't know what we're doing, we're just showing up here on Wednesday nights. Uh, but you know, that's that's the truth. So if you're locked out or if you you know don't take it personally, it's probably just something that we did that was stupid.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I probably did it myself and not didn't got a clue what I'm doing. So uh I apologize, but I'll look at it once we get off here tonight. I'll look at it and see if there's a way that I could undo that and I'll fix it.
SPEAKER_01David's saying, bring the mounty the fan fest five. Uh, and I know the people in the room listening, so you never know. Uh, Scott Lance, Vince equals better storylines and better wrestling. Always said, nothing is a mistake if it happens on live TV.
SPEAKER_00Well, and Vince told me that one time because I went out and I did this promo and I got screwed up somewhere with one of the words or something, and it pissed me off so bad. When I come back to Gorilla, I was I I didn't even go over to talk to Vince. I was I just walking. He called me and he says, Well, I said, Golly, I said, I missed that word. He said, Listen, if it happened live, it was meant to be. He told me that. He said, Don't be so hard on yourself.
SPEAKER_01Matt saying, Have you got any great stories with the Don Big Vito from WWE, Teddy?
SPEAKER_00Uh I think we told the story when we had Vito on the show, the one that uh, you know, you know, he don't smoke weed and he don't like it. And so what we would what we did to him that night, I'll tell it again. What we did to him that night is me and Nanjio, Njio was good friends with Vito. So what we did that night, we needed, we had a car that we needed to take back to the airport because we were gonna go on somewhere else. So we're gonna get Vito to drop him the car so he could drop it off the next morning at the airport. And so Nunjo thought about it and he says, uh, Teddy, why don't we just smoke the car out and we don't tell Vito? I said, Wow, that's great. So it was me, Nazio, and the other two guys, I won't call their names, because maybe they don't want people to know. But it was four of us in the car, and we smoked it out, brother. And after we got out, we closed all the doors and had the windows up, and so Vito didn't know. So we watched him. We gave him the keys and everything. So after the show was over, we all sit there. Well, me and Nanjio, we sit and we were hid. And we watched him when he opened the door of that car. Brother, was he hot? He was so mad,
The Big Vito Car Smoke Prank
SPEAKER_00man, because smoke's coming out of it like the car is on fire.
SPEAKER_01Uh oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. There's smoke coming out of his ears, too, because when Vino gets mad, Vito gets mad. Oh, yeah, yeah, he does. He can go from uh nice to nasty in a matter of a split second.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he's a real gangster.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, yeah, he'll hurt you if you ain't careful.
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SPEAKER_01Uh, look here. We have uh Mike is asking if you have any Bobby Heenan stories.
SPEAKER_00No, I don't. I remember me and Bobby talked one time. We were always, you know, when we ran into each other, you know, have a conversation. But I remember him and Gene Oakland, God rest his soul. They told me one time when they first came to WCW, and they said to me, they said, if Vince knew you and knew what you could do, he would blow you up. Now they told me that to my face. And finally, when I did go to New York, I didn't forget about that. I'm like, wow, those guys told me.
SPEAKER_01The name of the show we were trying to uh think of earlier is Dark Side of the Ring. Yeah, what did you say? I can't remember the Beyond Beyond the Ring. Which I think was a movie uh with Mick Foley in it, maybe, if that's the one. I there was something like that, I'm telling you. Who knows? Hey man, it's that time of day. You know what I'm saying? Uh let's see. Uh what else do we have? Um Mick is saying that just following up on his last comment, he was referring to Vince McMahon. No Vince, no wrestling. Thank you. Also, um, off uh I'm trying awful with mom safety net. Off awful something. I don't know. I'm trying to read that name the best off. You are just bad today. No, you you read that name, Teddy. Read that name.
SPEAKER_00I don't I I have no idea what that is.
SPEAKER_01It's not just my eyes, brother. Oh god, wait, wait, wait, wait, where'd he go? Where'd he go? Here we go. Hey guys, uh what uh what's Mac and Teddy's favorite type of music or any specific artist?
SPEAKER_00Uh I don't really have uh no favorite music, you know. I just kind of listen to stuff. That's that's what I did.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I tend to listen to a lot of stuff. Uh, you know, I'm not just one type of music, really. I I it came up through radio, and I and so I've played different formats, and it is so I've been experienced, I mean, exposed to so many different formats that I like it all if it's good. Yeah, if it's good. I mean, I can I can listen
Music We Love And Giving Praise
SPEAKER_01to country, I can listen to rap, I can listen to classical. It doesn't matter if it's good.
SPEAKER_00That's right. And then if you want to really know what I like, I've been sharing a lot of music on uh Facebook, and it's been the blues, really the I mean hardcore. So if you follow me on Facebook, you'll see the that that's the kind of stuff I like.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I it the blues are one thing we talked about. This I think last week. I love the blues, and and and I miss being down in Savannah at the blues clubs uh back when I was growing up, and you can sit there in that atmosphere, have a blues, you know, uh artist in there or a band and be able to sit around, just drink and enjoy the music and still have conversations with people. Man, I miss that. I I really do. Uh, let's see. Uh Eric uh Draven saying, Mac, how is it being around Joel Gertner and JCW? Uh Eric, Joel is is one of a kind, brother. Uh, anybody who's seen Joe back in his ECW days and stuff, man, he is one of a kind. Uh, and he's funny as hell.
SPEAKER_00And I I and I like Joel, he's what a nice guy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and and Joel legitimately cares about what he's doing, and sometimes he's like, Did I do okay? And it's like, man, you just knocked it out of the park. You can't tell. But uh, yeah, it it's it's amazing to me, Teddy, how many times I see guys like him who have been in the business forever and a day who still, you know, am I doing all right? You know, they don't have that, they don't have that confidence because no one ever told them they were doing okay. They just, you know, nobody.
SPEAKER_00Well, then, and that's then that and that's the the reason because there's so many guys now that are in the business now that won't even go and tell that guy. Yeah, you know, what a nice job you did and hey man, you were great out there. And that back in the day, they would do that. You know, they would come up and let you know when you did stuff. But now, you know, guys just I you know, it just sad to me because some of them, you know, to me, that it just don't really care.
SPEAKER_01No, and I think a lot of times, too, that as a talent or anybody in a company where you're working with other people, your job should be to help make these other guys feel better about their work so they perform better. As long as they if they feel like they're the shits and nobody ever tells them anything different, they're always gonna feel like they're the shits. I'm sorry. And so you've got to give them, you know, something to that inspire them to keep getting better.
SPEAKER_00And uh, and what we did, you know, that back in the day, you know, uh like then they would call a meeting, and they would call certain guys, you know, to have a meeting and they would call pick out a guy if he'd done something good. Hey, what you did last week out there, brother, that was great, absolutely great. And they would let that they would do that in front of everybody, yeah so that way you know the guy you know felt it. So it wasn't, you know, somebody just blowing smoke. But uh, yeah, man, uh it's the business has certainly changed.
SPEAKER_01Let's see. Uh Matt's asking, what are your thoughts on Rhea Ripley, Teddy? And uh, would you have liked to see her work with uh uh would you like to have worked with her during your time as GM of SmackDown?
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, yeah. Rhea Rhea Ripley was real nice. I had a chance to meet her. She's a nice, nice lady too. Uh, yeah, I would have loved working with her, but I would have liked to, if they were gonna do something, I'd like to see her work with Naya Jack.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there's so many possibilities in uh WWE now with the ladies. I just uh right now I just feel like they need to get on track of making something that's really interesting because honestly, it is somebody who just kind of watches the the wrestling product for WWE through YouTube and stuff. I can't really tell you of a hot female rivalry right now. Can you teddy? No, that's not good. I should at least know who the who the main you know players are, and I honestly just I'm not hearing enough you know stories or rumors or anything else that's going around that maybe want to watch a video about any of the women right now. And I didn't think about that until just now as I said that. Uh
Rhea Ripley Talk And Rocky King Memories
SPEAKER_01Jesse saying, TNA dark side, uh, you really see how egotistical Hogan and Bischoff is. And yeah, there's a lot of opinions on that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's what I spoke about earlier. The Vice Channel tells you the truth.
SPEAKER_01And let's see, uh, we have Wolfpack Main saying, Yeah, Joel is funny. Uh also that you talked to him offset. Uh Eric Draven. Teddy, what's your memories of Rocky King? I saw the interview where he said Teddy checked on on him during dark times, and that's awesome. He was pretty emotional in that interview.
SPEAKER_00Uh, well, you know, uh, I always enjoyed uh working with Rocky. Rocky was, you know, God rest his so he was back there when I was breaking in. And uh so I had a chance to work with him a little bit. But Rocky was a great guy, they just didn't push him, uh, didn't I I don't know whether they had anything for him or not. I I just don't understand why they didn't do something with him, but uh they they could have did something with Rocky.
SPEAKER_01Now we have another guy in here we don't get to see too often. E is in here saying, Yeah, no, I bet you I bet you got that right. Yeah, I got that one right. Uh let's see, Dave Crohn's saying no, Nia Jax hurts people, though. Uh Chasm is saying we're about to have to close out of here, too. Why does it seem like Vince McMahon gave more main title opportunities to black men than the current creative heads?
SPEAKER_00Well, that's not true. He like I said, he did do stuff for black talent, but he he he would only do that if he saw that there was money in you. If he saw it was money in you, then he would use you. Uh, I never met Ahmed Johnson. Never saw him a day in my life. But I would hear things uh when I wrote with JBL and stuff, and they would tell me how Vince loved him. He had heat with a lot of the guys, they say. I don't know. But uh they said Vince loved him and they was gonna end up putting the putting the title on him. And something he did, I don't know what he did. But anyway, next thing I heard is that they went to his hometown, maybe that's Houston, I'm sure I'm not sure. And uh they tarred and feathered him. Damn. Yeah, you don't remember that? No, I don't remember that.
SPEAKER_01Damn. I uh EEE is in here, Teddy, before we leave. And he's got a he's got a question. Uh I was about to close this out. Like, no, I I gotta get this last one in here. This is I don't know what EEE is doing right now, but Teddy, here's the question. You ready? Yeah, hey uh Big Mac and Teddy, extra long. If y'all were dinosaurs, what dinosaur would you be? Do you think you uh you would be a plant-eating dinosaur? Uh or uh you know, eating those prehistoric weed plants that get you high or something else?
SPEAKER_00I'd definitely go for the weed plant.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, I I'd probably be the T-Rex. I just go I'd I'd I'd eat the person who had the weed to get my weed uh and still get meat at the same
Dinosaur Question And Where To See Us
SPEAKER_01time. So all right, we're out of here. Teddy, anything coming up for you we need to talk about?
SPEAKER_00Uh nothing. I'm just taking it easy until around August 1st. I'm gonna be there in Monroe, North Carolina at the Union uh it's union something. I can't remember what it is, but it's in Monroe, North Carolina. Uh big Wrestling Legends Fan Fest, uh Baby Doll, Rock and Roll Express. A whole lot of guys are gonna be there. And also, I wanted to mention uh one of the guys that gave me the opportunity, and that's David Crockett, when I worked to work for Jim Crockett in the NWA.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, man. And uh you'll be able to find me at the uh local AMP supermarket grand opening taking place right over here in uh Dexter. Uh we'll have uh free rides on the Shetland pony uh all day long. All right, I'm out of here. We'll see you again next week. Same time, same place, folks. We have uh a great time. Hope you'll join us again.
SPEAKER_00I'll a bless uh
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