Episode 163 - 9.7.25 Iodine: The Forgotten Mineral

The forgotten power of iodine takes center stage in this enlightening exploration of thyroid health, immune function, and holistic healing approaches. Dr. Thomas Lodi reveals why this critical mineral deserves far more attention than it receives in conventional medicine, explaining how iodine deficiency undermines not just thyroid performance but our entire immune response.

Most people living in iodine-deficient regions unknowingly suffer as their thyroid glands substitute bromide, fluoride, and chloride for missing iodine molecules, creating structurally similar but functionally impaired thyroid hormones. This substitution goes undetected in standard blood tests yet wreaks havoc throughout the body. The solution? A year-long restoration protocol using 25mg of iodine daily, paired with natural thyroid support to prevent temporary hypothyroidism during the transition.

Beyond iodine, Dr. Lodi dives deep into his comprehensive approach to what he terms "chronically fermenting cells" (CFCs) – a more empowering and accurate description than cancer. By understanding these cells as fermenting rather than mysterious invaders, patients gain a clear path forward: create an internal environment where these cells cannot thrive. This reframing transforms the healing journey from one of fear to one of purpose and control.

The connection between parasites and chronic illness emerges as another crucial piece of the healing puzzle. Dr. Lodi shares specific anti-parasitic protocols combining medications like ivermectin, fenbendazole, and niclosamide with proper liver support supplements. These treatments extend beyond parasite elimination to potentially impact chronic conditions through multiple mechanisms, highlighting the interconnected nature of body systems.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Iodine: The Forgotten Essential Mineral
• 11:34 Thyroid Function and Iodine Restoration
• 19:04 Natural Thyroid Hormones and Ethical Considerations
• 28:04 Chronic Fermenting Cells Approach
• 38:53 Parasite Protocols and Anti-Parasitic Treatments
• 51:09 Q&A: Vertigo, CFC Treatments, Weight Loss
• 1:00:06 Maintenance Protocols and Final Thoughts

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:47

I wanted to comment on a little bit on iodine. Let me just comment on that really quickly because I'll make a short video If I can. How do you make a short video on something that's so complicated? It's very difficult.

Speaker 1: 1:04

But anyway, iodine is like the forgotten mineral and it's not a mineral in the sense that sodium and magnesium are minerals, because by definition they're called transition metals and they carry a plus charge. Of course they can't remain in that position at all, so they immediately have a negative charge to hang out with. So sodium gets chloride, which is negative, and magnesium can get chloride or it can get. They don't need two chlorides. It can get oxide or bromide or fluoride, anything. They can all act kind of the same.

Speaker 1: 1:42

But iodide is at the bottom of the. It's the largest of the halogens and the halogens are bromide, fluoride and chloride. Chloride, fluoride and bromide and then iodide. They all have the same activity. They're just larger. Each one is larger than the other.

Speaker 1: 2:02

That's one of the problems with thyroid. Is that the thyroid gland when it's producing thyroid if there are no iodides around, which happens quite often since we live in an iodide deficient soil and we don't need seaweed. So unless you're Japanese and you need a traditional diet with a lot of seaweed, you won't be getting the iodide. But you don't get the iodide as you cannot make take three at t4 because they rely on iodide and so what they'll use is something that's just as available or just as that fits chemically for that reaction, and that would be the bromine fluoride or chloride. So you'll have your T3, maybe one, if you're lucky, one iodide and maybe two fluorides or bromine fluoride, and the T4 might have two chlorides and a fluoride and a bromide in the fluoride, and the T4 might have two chlorides in the fluoride and a bromide or whatever. So they still measure as T4 and T3, but they don't have the activity, because the whole idea of the thyroid hormone is to deliver iodine to the cells, which has multiple effects, and one of them is control over the immune system. So if you don't have a healthy thyroid, you won't have a healthy immune system. It's impossible. But I don't know if this has been talked about, but I wrote about it years ago, so I'm going to rewrite this paper on it. So you should understand it, because it's the most really forgotten. And in fact there was a paper written called Iodophobia Medical Iodophobia, because for some reason doctors are afraid to use it and that has to do with thyroid function and all that. So we'll go into that in the paper.

Speaker 1: 3:47

But just to let you know that iodine is very important. It must be restored to healthy levels and that takes at least a year of taking 25 milligrams a day. But then you're getting more iodine in your system than would be necessary for an active maintenance. An active maintenance would be 12.5 milligrams but you're not at maintenance yet because you haven't reestablished or established for the first time healthy levels of iodine. So for that reason you'll be taking 25 milligrams a day, just so that it doesn't take for the next 10 years and that can and will suppress thyroid hormone output. So, being aware of that and being aware that you've got two simultaneous goals Number one is to restore healthy thyroid function, which requires that you fill up the deficit of iodine, because that's part of the final molecule in T3 and T4. And secondly, it is to maintain a healthy thyroid level functioning while you are busy restoring iodine supplies to the body. And you can only do that by taking something exogenous outside a thyroid.

Speaker 1: 5:08

And I always use natural thyroid hormones Natural because they have T3 and T4 in them and that they're derived from animals. So those of us who are philosophically or morally or ethically opposed to killing animals will probably have a hard time taking these. They're called glandulars because they come from the glands of either sheep or cows I think that's it sheep, or cows and pigs. I'm sorry they might come from other mammals, which actually illustrates one important fact, and that is the functioning of the human body. Its structure and functioning, its anatomy and physiology is very similar to all mammals, producing the same kinds of hormones. The hormones are the way the body talks to itself, same with peptides and all the other products, which is why, for example, when insulin was first discovered, they were using insulin from a pig. Discovered they were using insulin from a pig, and so it was. In order to extract it, you have to remove the thyroid glands of a pig or whatever animal. So that's the ethical dilemma. So if that is a real problem for you, the choice is getting the synthetic versions of both the T4, t3, and then putting them in the proper ratio. And the T4 is easily obtained and it's the only thing that most doctors ever prescription they have a right for when it comes to thyroid levothyroxine.

Speaker 1: 6:47

Now, when it comes to thyroid, I don't know. Let me just review this for you. When it comes to thyroid, the active aspect is the T3. The T4 is inactive, in other words, it's a precursor, pre-hormone, and it circulates and when a cell needs it, it'll grab it. Take off the iodine. One of the cells goes from T4 to T3. Now it fits, it can be Give you. Anyway, that's how. Now it fits, it can be give you. So anyway, that's how that works and that's why you need to take iodine. In spite of the fact that you will, it will probably lower your thyroid output and make you more hypothyroid than you already were. And the way you combat this is by doing your basal body temperatures in the morning. That's certainly appropriate times for you to increase or not increase, or just whether you're taking enough thyroid hormone or not.

Speaker 1: 7:38

The thyroid hormone that we usually look at are the porcine ones from the US, which are Westroyd and Sitalo. Well, no, anyway, from New Zealand. It's thyroid bands, but basically these are glandulars, as we said. All right, so come on, where are we? Where are we? Come on, there, we are. Okay, very good, all right, uh, so now.

Speaker 1: 8:07

So someone has mentioned they take a nascent thyroid. That usually refers to only the iodine. So remember the Lugol's in 1820, I think it was Armour. That's right, sandy, thank you. So it's Armour. Thyroid, westeroid, thyrovanse are the main ones. I'm sure there's other. Glandulars they provide you the T3 and the T4. Glandulars they provide you the T3 and the T4.

Speaker 1: 8:39

Now Lugol, who was a chemist in 1820s, and the problem was in order to make the solution, you have to have double the amount of iodide than iodine, because iodide is water soluble and iodine is not. So what happens is that, if you were to, because you really need more iodine than iodine, because iodine, which is a molecular iodine, which is two of them together, actually, what that does is destroy CFCs, it destroys bacteria. It also is a co-factor involved in healthy estrogen metabolism, which is very important. So, yeah, that's it. So that's why you'd use Lugol's, so you can get both. Now you're not going to get them in the proper solution because in order to sustain the solution, you have to have a more higher diet because it's water-soluble, right? So that means that Lugol, uh will be giving you more iodide to the thyroid, causing it to decrease itself. But all right, if we could somehow find a way to reverse it so that there was more iodine than iodide, it'd be great. So it's not chemically possible in that form. So let's get on with the show, all right.

Speaker 1: 10:00

So, as we mentioned every week which is a quick orientation if you're new, first time watching this is that we don't use the word the astrological sign for people who have tumors. We refer to that situation as exactly what it is, which is, chronically fermenting cells. All right. So if you have chronically fermenting cells in the breast, pancreas, colon, liver, brain, the chronically fermenting cells and we use use that word because that word is helpful, makes us feel good, gives us a purpose, a reason, a way out of this dilemma, and because you know what it is, you know how to deal with it. So it does all sorts of wonderful things like that.

Speaker 1: 10:45

So, anyway, and if you currently have CFCs, then our Oasis of Healing in Arizona. We're in our 20th year now. It's really wonderful. It's not because I'm involved with it and you know I founded it, but because it looks at all aspects of human nature that need to be dealt with when you're ill with anything, and that's the body, mind, spirit, continuum. Right, you can't ignore any, but excellent, so you can call them All right.

Speaker 1: 11:16

So now and then all know we have three groups called the. What is it called? The Dr Lodi community, and in the Dr Lodi community are three groups. One is the health and healing group. It was formerly called Inner Circle but we've changed it. The Inner Circle sounded good at first but it sounded sort of elitist and it really is the community. So if you're in any group the Health and Healing Group, parasite Group or CFC groups the community that forms because you have access, there's a telegram chat group that's private to everybody's members and what's shared on there is amazing and most people that are on there have been dealing with whatever situation it is parasites or CFCs or whatever for quite a long time and they've got lots of experience and they share that experience. So it's amazing what goes on there and it means that you have more than just one person to consult. You have a lot of people to consult and trust. So it's fantastic in that regard.

Speaker 1: 12:21

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Speaker 1: 13:09

For those of you who have been watching the Human Diet webinar series, we had to postpone last Friday's, which would have been the third part, the third program, which was what does the research say, until this coming Friday. My Friday is your Thursday, sorry, your Thursday afternoon. What we're saying is what does the research say, what your doctor says, you know what your friends say, you know what the prevailing opinions are, but you don't know what the research says. Because by knowing what the research says, you've studied it and now you can answer it yourself. And you need to know, because it's kind of important, and one of the things that we're going to do with the Dr Lodi community is we're going to improve the you know once you join the experience, because the experience has been fragmented. We didn't really have a coordinator for that. So we're going to have someone who specifically coordinates all the different groups and it allows everyone to have a relationship with that person too, answer questions and all that. We're going to have videos summarizing what's available, etc. Because a lot of people weren't taking advantage of the fact that, if they were unable to see it live, you can watch a replay.

Speaker 1: 14:22

A big part of what's available is the weekly Zoom meetings. We have weekly Zoom meetings two days a week. Soon it'll be three days a week, and that's where we can have direct interaction. You can ask direct questions and it's really worthwhile. And then, of course, we already have, as you know, a movement specialist. This is Darren. He's a kinesiologist. And then we have Vanessa, a nutritionist and yoga coach, and then a have Vanessa, a nutritionist and yoga coach, and then he makes health educator. And then we have Donna, who say I've been eating uncooked vegan food for 35 years now, so she gives the guidance on how to make that transition and how to be happy about it, how to be happy about it. It's gotta taste good, period, anyway. So that's it, and we're improving that. So I hope to see you all there, because that's how we can interact.

Speaker 1: 15:13

See the format on Sunday night, I can't interact. I wind up doing it anyway. There's no fear of I remitted it at all, unless you have a specific hours here, so do it All right. So here we are. Yes, all right. So here we go. Let's go to our question. All right, so here we go, let's get our questions.

Speaker 1: 15:35

First question from Charlie Regarding breast CFCs. Greetings, doc. Is it better to do a detox before going on a robust three to seven day fast? Is it okay to sleep with onion beneath the feet at night during a natural detox protocol or while fasting? Can ivermectin be taken during a protocol, a detox protocol, and what is your recommended dose for taking fenbendazole and ivermectin? All right, so pretty interesting questions.

Speaker 1: 16:09

So, really, the first question is is it better to do a detox before going on a robust three to seven day water? I'm imagining you mean water fast. Yes, I mean if you. Yes, yes, if you could do that, that would be good. But if you can't do it that way because, whatever reasons, it's okay, but you know that would be ideal. Okay, but you know that would be ideal. And of course, if you're doing a water fast true, fast then you don't really take any supplements or medicines unless they're a medicine that you have to take, in the words, if you you can't just abruptly stop them, so that's kind of medicine, you'd have to still take it. But it's very different than doing a juice cleanse where you can still take the you know, ivermectin and whateverenzol and whatever all the other antiparasitic.

Speaker 1: 17:19

So the other one was is it okay to sleep with onions beneath the feet? Sure, and can ivermectin be taken during a detox protocol? Well, the problem with pregnancy is that the only study that are on animals, because it would be unethical to give a pregnant woman something potentially dangerous. Just get information that something potentially dangerous, just get information that it's dangerous, and that would actually make it unethical as well. So the question was can ivermectin be taken during a pregnancy protocol, and is it recommended to take fedbenazole along with ivermectin?

Speaker 1: 17:58

So yes, as we've mentioned many times, the anti-worms, which are the anti-albinics, the triad that I think works very well is ivermectin and one of the benzimidazoles, fedbendazole or bevendazole or albendazole. The third one, which I think should be my close one unless you've got a specific situation where you think you have a flat worm in your liver from eating raw fish in Southeast Asia, then you'll want to change to prasequantum. So that's the worms. And then the protozoa can be kept at bay, not causing problems, by using tinidazole metronidazole but tinidazole is better in this regard. But also there's a drug called nitazoxonide which goes by the brand name of lily. It's an amazing drug because it actually eliminates CFCs, but it also is both worm and antiprotozoal, so very important. And so the doses can be depending on weight and age and all that.

Speaker 1: 19:17

But usually for an adult, ivermectin is 12 milligrams three times a day, the medazole is 222 milligrams three times a day, or the medbenzole 500 milligrams three times a day. The medbenazole is 222 milligrams three times a day, or the medbenazole 500 milligrams three times a day, and the niclosamide 500 milligrams three times a day, and the nitoxanide is 500 milligrams three times a day as well. And then there are antifungals included which are fluconazole and or nystatin, and fluconazole can be 103 times a day as well. And then there are antifungals included which are fluconazole and or nystatin, and fluconazole can be 103 times a day, or it could be. There's different ways. The doctors write it in the US 150 or 200 milligrams, so the nystatin would be 500,000 units because it's in units, three times a day. So you've got that. And I know it's in units three times a day. So you've got that.

Speaker 1: 20:03

No, it's recommended when you're doing a water test not to be doing anything other than not to be taking anything other than water and then prescribed medicines that would cause you damage if you quit them abruptly and didn't wean. So hold on a moment, let me just go find that out. So the next question is from Annette. She goes hi, stop the meds, as instructed to take an antifungal by day three. Flare-up was up so intense I had to start the meds again.

Speaker 1: 20:35

Can you recommend a rotation protocol so parasites are never without meds, or a five to two schedule each week because of the adverse reaction to a three-day zone? Well, in your situation, annette, that doesn't happen with everyone. Most people can take a week off, and it's helpful in biology because we always want to give our bodies a break from whatever we're introducing to it, because in nature, nothing is every day except breathing. But I mean nothing is every day, nothing is available every day, which is why animals don't eat all the time, and they won't eat until they find food. They run into food that fits within their instinctual parameters.

Speaker 1: 21:26

All right, so for you, apparently, if you go more than two days, you can do two days, but if you go more than two days, then you wind up getting an extreme flare-up, and so I don't I wonder what the flare-up was, you know. But keep in mind that you should be doing the liver detox protocol, right, that we've talked about? And let me show you one other thing here. There it is, let's see. No, that's not. I'm not going to spend time looking for it. Okay, can't find it. And so what I was looking for is basically, you want to be taking, during the whole period you should be taking, the liver detox protocol, and the reason for this is that each of these medications all require very similar actions by the liver to neutralize them, which means your liver is working on four or five medications daily, right, and so it can get tired or exhausted in one area, and then you see a flare-up of enzymes.

Speaker 1: 22:29

And don't worry about the liver, because the liver is the most resilient and restorative organ in our body. You can donate two-thirds of it to a sibling and it will grow back. No other organ does that. It's very similar to a lizard's tail, so it's a very regenerative organ. It doesn't mean it should be abused. It just means that it's a very regenerative organ. It doesn't mean it should be abused. It just means that it's a very regenerative organ, not like our kidneys or stomach or lungs. So that's that.

Speaker 1: 22:59

And here's Don. Don says I'm 87 and in good health, other than the return of my prostate CFC after 10 years. I feel that I'm doing well for my age and I can and I am active. I can do most things that I do at 70. My wife and I are still together after six, five years Fantastic. I am not left with many options to treat the CFCs. My last PFC was TSA was 0.20.

Speaker 1: 23:27

I mentioned an holistic approach like FedMed or IVM, but you need a protocol. Can you help me? Absolutely? If you go to our website, drlodycom drlodycom and I think it would be good for you to join the CFC group which would deal specifically with that you and I can speak twice a week because you'll have access to all the meetings and we can talk about your current situation, the progress and all that. So that's a very, very important way to do it. In fact it's the only way. But your PSA was 0.20, so it sounds like you must have had a surgery. Anyway, that's how you do it. So please Don join.

Speaker 1: 24:10

There's a parasite group in there, alright, so this is Laura, and Laura says I want all the details on parasite detox and heavy medicine detox for me and my children. Well, all the details. You can get all the details if you join the health and healing group. But short of that, the only difference between adults and children are the amounts you would use if you were using, for example, part of your detox protocol included a parasite cleanse and the antifarasitic medication, right, which I just went over, actually, with the former question. But the other thing is that with children, the dosages would be different because it goes by body weight and all these drugs are actually safe for children. They're given to children worldwide because the conditions that we've identified, such as you know roundworm and you know flatworms and you know all the worms that are well-known pinworms and all that are worldwide, and so they're taken.

Speaker 1: 25:12

These medications are taken for people all over the world. And then there are specific and unusual parasites, like Onchoceriasis, where it gets into the eye, or you take Ivermectin, take ivermectin. So it really depends on what you've been, laura, so what's been your recent exposure and are there any symptoms etc. To really come up with appropriate protocol and then, as I said for the children, we'd have to decrease for body weight. But so with the parasite detox it's on the website but also the uh heavy metal detox, the way you detox from it is you stop eating them. So you've got to watch out for the food that you're eating. And then the the way that we eliminate it on purpose, not by some bodily mechanism, is through different chelation agents. So there is the calcium disodium, edta, or just the EDTA, and a lot of times the EDTA is exchanged for calcium EDTA, which is a good idea in terms of its ability to give it fast and all that, and it's equally as effective in removing the metals. But you don't get the extra benefit of really adjusting the thyroid, which it naturally adjusts the thyroid. So, laura, yeah, someone was making my attention, bringing my attention to All right, very good, okay.

Speaker 1: 26:43

Now this is a question from Jen and it's called Alternative CFC Therapies. Have you heard of Dr Pat Soon-Shiong? He is a former UCLA professor and medical doctor and a CFC researcher for over 30 years. He has a theory that people who cannot clear the COVID virus or vaccine develop long COVID, which suppresses our immune system, which leads to CFCs. He said it destroys killer T-cells and other protective measures in the body. He has developed BioShield which clears the virus and puts it in the CTC and other things. I listened to him speak on a daily show. At other shows he talks exactly like you, dr ludi, in regards to cancer and the standard of care. He is objective people with glioblastoma, hiv and other diseases with great success.

Speaker 1: 27:42

All right, so well, sounds amazing. I don't know the fellow, but Sounds amazing. I don't know the fellow, but it sounds amazing and this is a very powerful. However, I don't think you would have to worry about clearing the COVID vaccine, because I don't think it exists the COVID bacteria virus and, of course, the vaccine and developing long COVID. We found out that the only people that develop what they're calling long COVID are people who have been vaccinated or injected non-vaccinated. So that's what we're finding. So in that regard, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1: 28:19

Maybe his explanation would be a little bit different on what he's doing, so we'd have to hear that. But it's usually a simple thing that you do once or twice a week, but it's quite complicated to understand, so I'd love to hear that. So right, if you can actually cause any damage to the immune system. You're actually helping the CFC. It's a very you know whether or not there's theories, and theories are opinions. People don't have the knowledge, because if you have the knowledge about something, it's no longer a theory. So but what I love about it is that it actually does restore the immune system, the strength of our immune system. So it is interesting that he's injecting people daily with glioblastomas, hiv and others with great success. So I'd love to find out what that is. I would definitely look up Dr Pat Soon-Shion. It sounds pretty amazing.

Speaker 1: 29:18

So here's a new name S-N-N or a name, not a new name. She says I stopped meds as it to take antinephalos by 31. Antiphalos by day three Flare-up was so intense. This is very similar. So can you recommend a support or rotation schedule so parasites are never missed on a five-to-two schedule because of the severe adverse reaction to three days of the drugs? That's really odd, because prior to taking the drugs were things very severe and then. So anyway, annette, I hope you're on the Parasite Telegram group so we can talk directly, we can interact. So if not, join it, because you've already paid for it by being a member, so it's free. Definitely get on that. So here are some comments on different platforms.

Speaker 1: 30:15

Is creatine good for women, for strength, strength in bones, health, or, if you had, thank you. Well, creatine is a natural product that we produce for that purpose. So the answer is no. I mean it's not dangerous or deleterious. It's a pretty natural substance. And this is from Charlie. He says greetings.

Speaker 1: 30:46

What's the discount code for the CDC group? Oh, wow, I'm not sure of the discount code for the CDC group. Hopefully someone's going to post it soon. So now that you've asked this quite formally, I hope it gets answered on our chat, because I don't personally know the discount code. I'm not sure if it works Now. Are we? The next person would be Viada. Her question is hello, the US.

Speaker 1: 31:18

Tells I've got polyps and gallbladder. I would like to take anti-parasitic treatment. Tells I've got polyps and gallbladder. I would like to take anti-parasitic treatment. I've already got the home ivermectin and Vermox. I still don't have Prasequantum. My family doctor would certainly refuse to support me in this treatment.

Speaker 1: 31:37

Should I take any substance like NAC or probiotic? So yeah, you've got to join the Parasite group really, because this is important, and get all the details you can. But unless you have a specific reason for taking Prezi or Quanto. You don't need it. You can take Nyklosamide 500 milligrams three times a day and that you can get quite easily from nyklosamcom. And there was another one. What is that? It's all science. I'm not sure what that is, but anyway, that's I wish I knew. Off the top of my head. I feel like I answered in the chat, but that one's very important because you can get almost anything you need there without a prescription. So that's, wow, very helpful. So now this is so.

Speaker 1: 32:16

The US tells us I've got problems with the gallbladder. I've already got it. I still don't have a prostate. Okay, so you understand that. Should I take any supplements like NAC or probiotic while taking this treatment? And absolutely, and the protocol for the liver support during this, as we've gone over, is alpha-lipoic acid, silymarin, milk, thistle and some source of vitamin B1, thiamine and alpha-lipoic acid. Oh yeah, I said that Alpha-lipoic acid and the NAC, n-acetylcysteine, and N-acetylcysteine is just a single amino acid which you can get at Sprouts or Whole Foods or any place like that, or online anywhere. So those are all easily obtainable without having to see a doctor. It's crazy. So these are from instagram.

Speaker 1: 33:09

What is the safest scan to show if cfcs are actually in the body. Well, yeah, you know, none of them are are without safety concerns. None of them. Even a simple x-ray or maybe an ultrasound would be without safety concerns. But the thing that we need to be aware of is that we want to make sure that whatever we're doing is going to give us the results that allow us to see what we're looking for. So sometimes we'll find we have to do things that carry some risk, but again we weigh the risk and decide what's necessary. So if your conventional doctor or even alternative doctor has concluded they don't know how to work with you therapeutically unless they have this information, then you're in a situation where you have to do it. Now the best scanning for CFCs, I think, is a PET along with a CT. They do it at the same time, and that is because you see the anatomy, precisely where it's located and what its dimensions are, and you also see the activity level, which is essential to know because that's your baseline, and after you've been treating for six or eight weeks, you'll notice that then you'd want to see have we diminished the size but not the activity, or the size and the activity, or just the activity, or anyway, that's very important to know.

Speaker 1: 34:38

So the second question is how's a detox from metals and parasites? Naturally, a four-year-old. Well, are you sure your four-year-old has parasites? So, with your four-year-old, what you want to do is just make sure that you're feeding it very healthy food, because four-year-olds have a very high nutritional requirement because of the rate at which they're growing. So you can use smoothies, the fresh nut milk with chia seed, using it to make a chia seed instead of what we use to make a chia seed porridge. But instead you take a couple tablespoons of the chia seed, grind them up and put them in the milk nut milk and two handfuls of spinach, and then whatever else you want pineapple, coconut, strawberry, apple to make it delicious.

Speaker 1: 35:32

And that would be a daily thing, because if you put a child on a juice cleanse, they're going to feel like they're starving. You're not going to be able to reason with them at three years old, unfortunately. You can require that of your children, but you should do it in a way that helps them understand what they're doing and do it with them. It's always best to do the green juice cleanse or juice cleanse with them so they see that you're both doing it and you're okay and that you understand how they're feeling and all that sort of thing. So it's always very important to do that, all right.

Speaker 1: 36:07

So do I have any thoughts about getting the shingles vaccine? The answer is nay. And then after the second thought, nay, and then after the third thought, nay, you gotta understand that it doesn't even make sense to get a shingles. The other ones don't work. If you know that they don't work, you might think it makes sense.

Speaker 1: 36:26

But shingles is the recurrence of a chickenpox, which in a sense, recurrence is that the exosome or virus that they call it, hangs out in the spinal column, probably the roots. The roots are where the peripheral nerves come out of the spinal column, probably the roots. The roots are where the peripheral nerves come out of the spinal column and they only come out or get active when the person is stressed, right. So that's either physical stress, stress or emotional distress, and over a period of time. So physical would be like they had a period of time in their lives where they just were not going to bed until two or three in the morning and they found themselves drinking alcohol or other things at night, not getting sleep. Just in a continuous time like that will weaken the immune system which allows that breakout to occur.

Speaker 1: 37:28

So that's what I wanted to share with you, and I don't use the word vaccine, because they're not vaccines. None of them are. They do not do what they claim. They do not do what they claim. We have a vaccination program that was developed by God and it's in our bodies and it works extremely well, and it has for millions of years. And isn't it odd to consider that? How the heck did we all survive, including animals and all that, when there were no vaccines around? How did we make it here? In fact, think about this. Who invented vaccines? The unvaccinated, the whole thing is a bizarre scam. So don't get locked up in it, just get out of it, wow. Okay, so I feel like my legs are wobbly and I can't walk far, wow.

Speaker 1: 38:15

Well, I would like to know a lot more about your current situation, to understand it and respond. That's why it'd be really helpful to ask this on one of our Zoom meetings. If you were to join the group, you could join the health and healing group. So do you have any specific illnesses that are being treated so that you're being exposed to some form of toxicity? So really need to know that. Is there a chronic illness around that or this just developed out of. You were fine, and now you just have wobbly legs and can't walk.

Speaker 1: 38:51

Now when you say wobbly legs, do you mean are they also deformed? Are they deformed in that they're skinnier than they normally are? It's an obvious problem by anybody who saw. And so I'm imagining you can't walk, but because they're so wobbly you can't bear any weight to support stepping. So I would like to know the context of what's going on, how long it's been going on or where are they. And I found when they did a scan and so anyway. So you started out this sentence with saying I feel like my legs are wobbly, so would be really helpful if you could send in a some of the imaging to me so I could look at it and see what I can see thus far and decide whether or not something else is necessary and also, with that, give a brief medical history so I can know where you're, at what context this is all happening. So it could help. All right.

Speaker 1: 39:55

So now the next question. Let me see this. I don't see it. Okay. So here's thoughts on Catzilla Stage 1, triple positive, did four months, taxol, lepectomy and still small residual. So these. Let's see.

Speaker 1: 40:18

I have not heard of this particular. It's Trastuzumab. Trastuzumab is also called Herceptin, but I never heard the brand name of Catechizumab. But anyway, that's what it is. It's a monoclonal antibody that binds to the HER2 receptor on cells, and the HER2 receptor is on all cells anyway. All cells have a HER1 through HER5, also called epidermal growth factors. But what they're finding is that it's upregulated with people with CFCs, and therefore people with CFCs you know, not everyone, but you'll find that HER2 is positive and for some reason it's just that one that's upregulated, not the other ones. And so they've developed a monoclonal antibody that attacks that. Remember, a monoclonal antibody is an antibody that's been made by your body to something that they're aiming for. So it's got a place perhaps in the entire program that you might have for healing, but it's got a. So there's pretty much what's called the immunotherapy.

Speaker 1: 41:34

Nowadays with CFCs are fundamentally two kinds. One is the monoclonal antibody part and the other is the pd1, pdl1 blockers checked, called checkpoint inhibitors, but so with her too. What's interesting too is her two is not only with breast. It can be found with colon, it can be found with, so it's not only breasts. So very important to understand, but they don't usually look for it, which is odd. But anyway, again, what what is preferable is to understand is that her two is going to be positive, um, on a group of people regardless of and there's no, there's no way to know which people are going to be HER2 positive and HER2 negative. But if you understand that, that's just that your epidermal growth factor number two has been upregulated and that, therefore, what the epidermal growth factor says is when it gets stimulated, it causes growth. So it's just one of the mechanisms that continues the growth of the tumor, just one of them. So, basically, if we're doing what we always talk about, which is removing all the reasons why tumors occur, which is through our detox, and we're targeting the CFCs with non-toxic therapies based on their metabolism and we're re-awakening the immune system, then we're doing all that we really can, or all that's really necessary as well.

Speaker 1: 43:19

So my thoughts on the Cacicilla are, since this is not such a dangerous medication they all have poison but it's really even more importantly that you make the decision based on your feeling and sense of things. So a lot of times when people ask this kind of question, their feeling is they shouldn't, but they have another, deeper feeling that says but I have to, I'm afraid if I don't, and that's a conflict within based on not having enough knowledge. So that's where you've got to really investigate it. So what you need to understand is you know, what are these epidermal growth factors? Why are they on cells, et cetera? These epidermal growth factors, why are they on cells, et cetera? And then, secondly, what is the advantage to CFCs by upregulating to have more of it around? And then you have to understand the different therapies, how they're produced and what they, which we're talking about monoclonal antibodies and then what's their direct action on the tumor that is considered the goal, and what are the other actions that could not be, that could be considered adverse, or are there other positive effects? Because it's something you have to decide. And the reason I say that is because if you took my advice or anyone's advice on what to decide and yet you still had an internal conflict, then that internal conflict will really greatly inhibit healing.

Speaker 1: 44:58

So why do I feel like this is from in the instagram? I can't really see. There's no names. Why do I feel like the floor is moving below me? Well, if you feel like that, there's really, uh, two forms of dizziness. When we use the term dizziness, um, we're referring to being light-headed, you know just like, oh, I'm dizzy, I'm gonna fall right. Or being on a boat or where the floor is moving, things are spinning.

Speaker 1: 45:28

They're both called dizzy, but they're two different phenomena. The first one is usually due to severe dehydration or something else that's caused a big depletion volume of blood, and dehydration is probably the most common. So if that happens when you stand up, you don't have enough blood volume that, even though the arterioles in your legs kind of clamp down to keep the blood up there flowing up there and not go down into the legs, if you're severely dehydrated or you've had blood loss or anything like that, you won't be able to do that. So you'll stand up and you'll feel really lightheaded and you need to sit down again. So that's one.

Speaker 1: 46:10

The other one is an inner ear, not a middle ear, not an outer ear, but an inner ear problem. And what the inner ear is? It's on three different planes and they're kind of like these hollowed-out stone constructed of stone, whatever they are. They're these hollowed-out tubes of stone. Whatever they're they're anyway, they're these hollowed out tubes that have in them little hairs that form them, are part of the floor and they, as they are moved, they produce an electrical signal that goes to the brain and gets interpreted.

Speaker 1: 46:45

So when you were a child and you would spin around on purpose fast and then stop, and it was fun because you were still spinning. But you're spinning in the opposite direction. So the reason is because the fluid was going this way while you were going this way and then when you stopped, when you just stopped and kept going, it caused you to feel it's called vertigo Instead of dizziness, it's called vertiginous. You feel vertigo and fortunately that doesn't last very long. As soon as your body stops, the fluid stops flowing. But there are many people who wind up getting chronic vertigo, which could be a real problem, and there are actually websites and groups that you can join for that.

Speaker 1: 47:30

So I don't really know. So it sounds like for you it's just beginning, and since you're focusing on the fact that your legs can't you can't walk because your legs are wobbly it sounds like that whatever the subjective feeling in your head is not significant. So you've got to find out which one it is. So you've got to go to a doctor or any kind of clinician that's able to help you figure that out, and then you'd be best to go to a holistically alternative medicine type of person in your area who would have the ability to evaluate you and treat you appropriately. And you can look in your journals.

Speaker 1: 48:15

There's the we've talked about this before the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, I'm sorry, and there's also the American Academy of what is that one called? I don't know why all of I said everything's in Chinese, what I'm trying to get an image. Anyway, it's called the American College for the Advanced Medicine, also called ACAM, and the reason it's important is because everyone who's trained through there, who's been trained by them and they're very good it'll be on their website as having been trained, and you can pretty much be assured that they were trained well for this. Whether or not they remember and they do it correctly and all that is one thing, but the fact is that they were trained well, and I'm looking here right now. So one of the notes here is let us find an integrated physician near you. So you click on this, all right, so I don't have your name, but, uh, about the floor moving under your feet.

Speaker 1: 49:13

Um, as I said, it sounds like it's a. It's early on in the condition and if the if you're, if you're focused mostly on the legs moving around, um, and you're not really talking about an experience that's going on in your head, and that there are no associated symptoms like nausea because if you were on a boat like that you would be nauseous, so none of that is happening Then you should maybe go to I don't even know if there are any holistic or, alternatively, reminding oncologists, but you can go to any kind of doctor, because the treatment for vertigo, first of all, is finding out what, what's causing it, what kind it is and what's causing it, and eliminating that cause. But it also involves detoxification and you know everything that we do. But in the meantime, if they, if the subjective feeling is so powerful that you actually get nauseated by standing up and walking, if you ever get to that point, then it's really important to treat it and there's a treatment for it. It's not available in Thailand or somewhere, but you can order it from the US and I'm sure most other countries use it because it works and it's important and it's basically a class of medications called phenothiazines, the phenothiazine that would block there are actually two that would block the nausea associated with this kind of sensation. Imagine if it. Imagine if it was really active and you just you couldn't not be dizzy, it would be a bummer.

Speaker 1: 50:53

So it's used for that. It's both the promethazine, which is commonly used, and the chloroparasine, which is basically the common one. So they block that and you just do them for short periods. You don't do them for prolonged periods, because these types of medications, if you do them for too long you can get kind of bizarre psychological effects. I've never gotten a clear answer from people who are doing it, but it's like they're seeing bugs or things, seeing things like that and that's no fun. You don't want to get that way. So you don't take them for long periods, but they will turn off the nausea associated with that because it's hard otherwise this, the nausea associated with that right. So anyway. So the lesser medication that's used in that wise, the lesser medication that's used in that situation, is called meclizine.

Speaker 1: 51:56

Meclizine is usually 25 milligrams, probably three times a day. It could be up, go up as necessary and down as necessary. What it does is it actually allows you to take control of what you're doing, rather than having someone else tell you what to do, and I always prefer that. Okay. So meclizine 25 milligrams, anywhere from one to four times a day, actually stops the spinning. That's fantastic. Not just the nausea associated with it, but it stops the spinning. That's fantastic. Not just the nausea associated with it, but it stops the spinning. And it's in the same drug category. You'll see how this, because you'll notice it ends with Z-I-N-E and you just get methamphetamine and I've never seen it not work on people. So 25 milligrams a day, we're up to one to four times a day.

Speaker 1: 52:44

So here's the next question, and again I don't quite have the name. The question is stage four or five years into local recurrence on same breast, other parts, stable, surgery. So usually other parts, stable surgery. Stage four, stable, five years in local recurrence on same breast, other parts stable. Okay. So anyway, when you say other parts, I'm assuming that you mean you might have secondary locations of tumors like metastasis, and so there was a local recurrence on the same breast, other parts stable. And the question is surgery. All right, so you've had a local recurrence on the same breast where apparently I guess some surgery was done, either a lumpectomy or a mastectomy I'm not sure you know that or a mastectomy. So anyway, a local recurrence just means it's growing, usually on the scar, and that's not unusual on the scar or around it, because actually, as it's being removed, the stem cells get out and that's basically it. And remember, our job is to not make the body a hospital host, hospitable host to stem cells, meaning that the soil they land in just is not compatible with them becoming strong, but it is compatible with us becoming strong, healthy and vibrant. And then what's an appropriate email for reaching out in your podcast interview? Oh well, thomas at drlodycom, t-h-o-m-a-s at drlodycom would be an appropriate email. Or hello at drlodycom. Somebody's scraping my window.

Speaker 1: 54:30

So this next question is I'm losing lots of weight on a keto diet and with left and with breast cfc, breast left, breast hormone therapy, one thing is to keep energy. So you're losing lots of energy or lots of weight on the keto giant. Well, that's going to happen because the keto diet actually the goal and I think we've talked about this several times when one gets into a state of ketosis, which means that they have predominantly ketone bodies being made, which are breakdown products of fat and they become the central part of metabolism. When that's happening, you're in a state of ketosis, part of metabolism. When that's happening, you're in a state of ketosis and of course that would happen if you're not eating enough carbs, because carbohydrates will turn on the glucose metabolism. So if you're not eating carbs and you are eating fats, that will turn into ketone bodies and since you're not eating carbohydrates, your body will be breaking down your own fats, which is why we have fat into ketone bodies. So the ketone bodies will be used for fuel. They'll provide energy to the cells.

Speaker 1: 55:44

But when you say you're on a keto diet, often people think they are and they're doing it, but they're not really measuring anything to know if they are. So at least once a day, doing your ketone bodies and your glucose to figure out your glucose to ketone index, your GKI, and usually you want that to be less than 1.0. It's hard to achieve just on food, even if you're eating all fat. So in spite of what you're eating, you probably have to do one to two days a week of just water only just to keep you in a generalized ketosis. And so ketosis will obviously prevent the. It prevents the.

Speaker 1: 56:18

In order to get into ketosis you have to not have the carbs, so there'll be no stimulus to produce fat, so body weight will come down for that reason and because you're breaking down the fat to be used for fuel. Yeah, so that's why you're losing weight, which is perfect, not only perfectly fine, but actually something you want to happen, unless you've reached the point where you're cachectic, where your body's actually consuming itself, and for that if that's where you get to the point is you've got to stop, because cach cachexia can be very nasty. It's way different than catching a cold or anything like that or anything that's going to involve one organ system, because cachexia involves the whole body. It really evolves from the fact that people don't want to eat or can't eat. So in order to work with someone with that condition, you would work with them due to the causes, each separate part. So if they can't eat because they're nauseous, or they can't eat because there's an obstruction or whatever it is, you have to deal with that. If they don't want to eat, in other words, they have no appetite If you have the luxury, the best thing to do is wait and see how long it would take for someone to get an appetite, and if you didn't want to wait that long, you could just have everything ready when they come over and eat. But it's difficult. So that's where the use of cannabis comes in. Cannabis is very important for stimulating appetite and it also will have a beneficial effect if anyone gets nauseous from eating and sometimes it's just that the person hasn't eaten enough over time so their GI system isn't working that well.

Speaker 1: 57:59

But usually to get cachectic, it's usually in someone with stage 4 that has gone to multiple areas and is causing major biochemical alert systems on different parts of the body, which is exhausting the immune system and so the tumor metabolism. Well, our body gets turns back mainly to a tumor metabolism and so. So that's the way to deal with it is. And you know, the other thing we use with cachexia, as we've mentioned many times, is we want to heal the gut and so we're going to use the glutamine which is the primary fuel for the terocytes, small cell intestines, and it's a fuel for CFCs. However, it's also the necessary fuel for lymphocytes, which actually turn out to be the cells that turn to become natural killer cells and T cells activate that actually gobble up and eat tumors. So when you look at all the risks and benefits, the risk of using it is far outweighs the risk of not using it, because you have to adapt, adjust to the fact that a certain therapy cannot be used by you. So we're going to find other ways of achieving the same thing. There are many different ways of getting the same thing as you if we've got several in arizona.

Speaker 1: 59:22

Your thoughts on parasite cleanses should we all do one per year? Yeah, I think we should all do initially a good long one to make sure that we've got them all, and then I think a one one year daily maintenance would be great. You'll still be shocked if you could manifest anything, but a lot of people me, for instance, looking came out anywhere. So if you want to see something it's usually people who are, who have obvious worms and stuff that they can see all the time and then they stop seeing them or they diminish significantly. Then that's noted. Otherwise it's really hard to know what benefit you're getting. But yes, once a year is fantastic. But actually what you mean is a maintenance. So you've already done an intensive first year, which could be three to nine months, depending, or a year, and now the maintenance would be depending on how long that one was, how long your initial one was. It can be anywhere from, I don't know, 14 days up to two weeks, up to eight, 12 weeks, and usually the longer the better, because it does multiple beneficial effects and it can change the metabolism of the tumor. It's not central, so it's very good.

Speaker 1: 1:00:36

Now, ben is all criticized lately. Cfc is coming back worse after first success Again. I think we talked about this last week. Please send me what you're seeing in that regard and then I'll read it and then we can talk about it next week. But send me whatever you're seeing about criticizing Finn Vincente.

Speaker 1: 1:00:58

It was criticized before. It was before Joe Timmons used it. It was called a dog D-Wormer or a horse D-Wormer or things like that, and they didn't recommend it at all. They said it was dangerous. And all a dog D-Wormer or a horse D-Wormer or things like that. They didn't recommend it at all. They said it was dangerous, and all that for humans. Well, it turns out it's not. Some were dangerous than the other ones and I've had hundreds of people on all the different, but especially Fenn-Bendisal. And the reason is because Fenn-Bendisal has gained such popularity because of Joe Tippins, and other people have followed in his doing exactly what he's doing with great results. But it's not that the others wouldn't work right and researchers were not being offered grants to do it either. However, joe Tippins came in and had already done it himself and it showed an incredible effect. So that's how it came to be.

Speaker 1: 1:01:57

Otherwise, the medical world focuses on fembenazole and albenzol and I'm not quite sure why, but I mean why they decided that these are human and those are animal, but they're not. As I pointed out earlier, we, you know, when we're talking about mammals, we all have very similar bodies for chambered heart to lungs, for limbs, gastrointestinal tract. You know pretty much the same, except there are different refinements and adaptations to different parts of the central nervous system, which is brain and spinal cord, as well as the peripheral nervous system. So all right, you guys. Green medicine. All right, you guys. I'm sure in the chat there's somewhere that people are telling us all the answers to our questions. So, anyway, I apologize for the late start today and I'll see you tomorrow at the meeting. Tomorrow, my morning, your night, for the meeting, if you're in that group. Okay and aloha.