Episode 169 - 10.20.25 Abscopal Effect And Real Healing

What if “disease” isn’t an enemy to defeat but your body’s adaptive signal asking you to change course? We dive into a practical, science-informed approach to chronically fermenting cells—often labeled cancer—by focusing on how the immune system learns, how stress blocks healing, and how simple daily habits can turn the tide.

We unpack the abscopal effect in plain language: when a single tumor is targeted locally, systemic lesions can shrink as the immune system finally sees more of the puzzle. You’ll hear how dendritic cells and T cells coordinate this response, how focused ultrasound, cryoablation, and hyperthermia can help, and why movement, heat, and a balanced microbiome increase the odds. We also explore minor autohemotherapy with ozone as a way to present antigenic fragments and wake up immune surveillance.

From there, we tackle the foundations most people skip. Stress is redefined as “not liking what is,” and it’s shown to suppress immunity and circulation. The fix is refreshingly doable: two minutes of focused breath, five times daily, plus consistent sleep and sunlight. Nutrition shifts to uncooked whole plants—fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds—eaten in a short daily window, with hours before bedtime to enhance repair. Water fasting and green-juice cleansing get a practical walkthrough for gut healing, autophagy, and microbiome reset, with real-world cases from psoriasis to ulcerative colitis.

We then zoom in on repurposed antiparasitics. Ivermectin’s inhibition of PAK1 can dim multiple growth pathways, while fenbendazole disrupts microtubules similar to certain chemotherapies, but within a broader strategy that prioritizes terrain: stress mastery, clean fuel, and steady circadian rhythm. Cases include infant breast lumps best left to resolve, sarcoma support through cleansing and nutrition, and sourcing guidance f

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Chapters

• 0:00 Opening Banter And Housekeeping
• 3:12 Groups, Platforms, And Webinar Announcements
• 7:19 The Abscopal Effect Explained
• 14:32 Boosting Immune Response And Accessibility
• 19:14 Stress, Breathwork, And Immune Function
• 23:44 Antiparasitics Overview: Ivermectin And Fenbendazole
• 35:44 Redefining “Disease” As Adaptive Physiology
• 45:54 Diet, Fasting, And The Human Food Argument
• 53:44 Psoriasis, Autoimmunity, And CFC Links
• 1:02:54 Candida, Dysbiosis, And Water Fasting
• 1:12:54 Infant Breast Lumps, Intervention, And Trusting Healing
• 1:20:04 Sarcoma Strategy: Cleanse, Nutrition, Repurposed Drugs
• 1:27:24 Navigating Chemo, Sourcing Meds, And Community Support

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:47

Good evening. Welcome to Sunday Night Live, Sunday morning, Monday morning live. We're just alive. That's all we're alive.

unknown: 0:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 0:53

And today is when? It's today. What time is it now? There we go. We're on time. We made it to now. Um, couldn't really be late for such a thing. And here we go. Wow. Upstate New York. Thoughts on Occupy. Yes. Okay.

unknown: 1:09

Absolutely. Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11

Do we have to be? Um, should I be? Uh, are we there? Hey, good morning, Mara. Yay. Another upstate New York. Perfect. Uh wait, what is this one? This one is just one second, you guys. Just a real minor thing here. We're not gonna be doing there we go.

unknown: 1:30

Come on.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31

Yeah, well, whatever. So here we are. Good morning. Good evening. Okay, man. Tons of questions. Beautiful. Let's get started. We want to be on. All right, cool. Great. All right. So good. Uh let's get started. So today is oh, please share about upscalpel effect. I will do that. Thank you for reminding me. Why don't I start out with that? Okay. Let's go over to here. There we go. Yeah. All right. Wow, these are so um, what do you call it? So uh, I mean, it's like looking through a magnifying glass. Do I have anything? These are less than 10. That's a banner. Boy, those other ones are too much. Okay, so let's get started. Um, uh reminder um, you're very welcome, everyone. Hey, yeah, I'm so happy to be here as well. So, by the way, you have CFCs and it's active um right now, and you're anywhere near North America, get over to an Oasis of Healing in Arizona. We've been doing this for 21 years now, and uh we're starting to get good at it.

SPEAKER_00: 2:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 2:36

Long before all the ones that have popped up. So we kind of helped develop this whole process. Uh and uh so anyway, um, I just wanted a couple things to as a reminder. Remember, we have three groups, and the reason we have three groups, by the way, CFC, if you don't know chronically fermenting cells, for those of you who don't know, that's really what when they talk about the word cancer, which is an astrological sign, period, they mean chronically fermenting cells. And that's a more useful term because it communicates information and no fear, and that we need to deal with information and not be freaked out with fear, freaked out with fear. F-O-W-F. No, freaked out with fear. Okay, all right, cool. So, so we have three groups because on these I see lots of questions coming up here, and sadly I can't respond to them because I have a lot of questions that were sent in, and you know, I need to respect that and answer those questions. However, in order for us to have live and continuous interaction, that's the whole reason we have these groups the health and healing group, parasite group, and the CFC group. Um, and that way we interact and we dialogue. I ask you, what do you mean by that? Did you get this? We can really focus in on your your real question. Is because I know how hard it is to sit there and say, I want to write the question, and you might leave some important stuff out just because that's the way we are us humans. Um, anyway, join those and you go to drlody.com, drloadie.com, drlodi.com, and you look right there, and you're gonna see you've got three groups you can join. That's how you join. All right. Now there's this weird one on Telegram, it's called the Dr. Thomas Lodi community. That's not me. And of course, Telegram doesn't care. I've complained formally um multiple times, and they just leave it up. So it's still there, and it doesn't, there's no they're using my name. Isn't that shouldn't that be illegal? It should be, but that's the old world. The new world is uh anything can go, all right. Um now big business selling tampons to man, yes, this is the new world, right? And you gotta be careful on a boat because if you're on a boat uh you know in the ocean, you could go over the side because this is flat. We're on a flat disk. Uh I just all right, so here we are. Oh, anyway, so uh by the way, we're we're doing um uh the human diet, which is a really fundamental and critical part of healing, and it's never uh for some reason it's never uh there's so much misinformation, it's crazy. Um that's why I put together this webinar. It's got like four parts, right? Nature's design, you know, how did nature design us to eat, right? The second one is called Cooked Food is poison, and the third one is what does the research say? So it's great, you have all your opinions. What does the research say? Fourth one is exposing the myths like oxalates, anti-nutrients, lignin, soy, all that stuff, all those myths. We're gonna expose them with with with research to show you that what are myths and what are not myths. Okay, we keep postponing that one because we need to get a lot of people to sign up for it. I'm not I don't wanna I don't wanna waste such an important webinar. Okay, get the word out. That's part four. And just go to drlody.com and you'll find out when it's gonna be. All right. And um, as a reminder, at dr Thomas Lodi is how you find us on Rumble, Facebook, YouTube, LinkedIn, Instagram, right? Um, linked uh yeah, I said yeah, and then uh for X and TikTok, it's at DR Thomas Lodi MD. They have to md has to be in there because they had my name before and they they they and they deleted me, they canceled me. I was canceled. Uh anyway, that's that. Fred Sanford with his eyeglasses drawer. Fred Sanford. All right. Now there was a request that I start out with talking a little bit about the abscopel effect. And I that might be I think it might be a good way to start out because has anyone heard of that? The abscopel effect? All right, not sure if you've all heard of it. All right. Well, it's a pretty interesting phenomenon and uh apparently rare. Keep getting these same questions. Okay, so sorry I'm distracted. Okay, anyway, the abscopel effect. What is it? It's when uh one tumor somewhere uh is being treated directly with something like radiation or hyper local hyperthermia or uh radio frequency ablation or cryotherapy, cryoablation, or you know, anything to directly affect the tumor. And uh the result is not only that tumor shrinks, but multiple other tumors. Uh milgram experiment, not sure what that is. Zimmerman, I always think of um Bobby Boy, Bobby Dylan, but I'm not sure what is meant by Zimmerman. So you knock out the first tumor and then all the other tumors seem to shrink down. And how does that happen? And that happens because when the the the therapy you're using, like like let's say uh radio frequency ablation or um cryo therapy cryo ablation or or or uh just irradiating or any of that sort of stuff, it causes necrosis of the cell. So it's not apoptosis, it's necrosis. And that necrosis causes the cell to split apart, and now all of these fragments are there that the immune system can become um aware of and develop a response. So rather than the whole cell where the immune system is just going to be looking at the antigens that are on the surface of the cell, when you break it open, you've got all these multiple, multiple antigens. And so that stimulates an immune response, which is systemic-wide, and it shrinks them down. Now, it doesn't happen all the time, but it it does happen. Um, and you can increase its likelihood of happening um in several ways, right? So keep in mind the tumor splits apart. So just like just like in any kind of wound or a brick uh or trauma or anything like that, dendritic cells and macrophages are the are the marines in the trenches, and they show up and they take bites out of this stuff and they bring it back to the T cells that are hanging in on the lymph nodes, waiting. Because the T cells, after they're after they're born in the bone marrow, they go to the thymus gland to get educated, and then they get they're completely trained as assassins. Then they go hang out in the lymph node where they you know they have coffee and stuff. You know, sometimes they play cards, but most of the time they're they're alert and vigilant and waiting. And then here comes the macrophages, dendritics showing up with uh fragments of cells, and they and so then the the the T cell that was what they call a naive T cell didn't have any purpose in life, um, except to drink coffee, now has a purpose. Ah, I'm gonna get that one, and that's what happens, and so that's kind of stimulating the immune system to function, right? And uh the uh real quickly, we do that also. There's this there's a there's an ozone uh treatment called um minor autohemo. And minor minor autohemo, Kevin. What are you talking about, Kevin? You guys weird talk about random. Anyway, minor auto hemo is when we draw out some blood, 10cc, and we mix in 10 cc's of ozone, you have a big 20cc syringe, and you shake it vigorously so the cells break apart, just like we're talking about with that upscopal effect of getting the primary tumor. Break it apart, then you give that uh ozonated sh traumatized blood as an injection intramuscularly, either into the uh your gluteus back there or here, a deltoid big muscle. Of course, that goes in, that's a trauma. So the dendritic cells and macroflass show up. It's the same kind of thing. So we used to do that every three big every three days. Oops, we lost you. Am I back on now, you guys? Hammy, am I back on? Oops, it lost me.

unknown: 10:42

My God.

SPEAKER_01: 10:43

Oops. Okay, we're gonna have a lot of oopses today. I can tell we've already started with our oopses. Um, so we used to do minor auto hemology, which you know differs than major auto hemorrhages, which is the way you put ozone into the blood and all that sort of thing. But um, so minor autohemology, we use that every three days. So, because what it does is kinds of it's it's kind of a reminder to the immune system of what's going on. Great, you can hear me. Good, cool, cool. Never went away. See, they so they're just trying to freak me out. They're good at it, they're really good. They've learned how to freak me out. Now, um, of all the targeting therapies uh on a tumor directly, the one that seems to be the most effective and also the least damaging to non-tumor cells is something called, and that's just where you use really high high-intensity uh sound waves to break it up. And we used to do that with um, well, I guess we still do, but um, that was one of the ways you'd break up kidney stones that were in the kidneys, and they were so big uh you they couldn't fit down through the ureter, and they caused excruciating pain. So they called it extra extracorporeal um histotripsy, or I forget the exact term, but extracorporeal beast outside of the body, sending sound waves in. They shattered the stone that was in the kidney, so turned into like grains of sand that just came down easily. So that's how that works. So now we're using it for tumors, which is a great idea, all right. Um local hypothermia does it, radiation therapy does it. Um, and uh so uh remember that the the thing that the thing that limits anything, any of any therapy on a tumor is going to be poor accessibility, and that poor accessibility comes about because of the blood vessels that that that uh supply a tumor are like spaghetti and they have no control mechanisms, and so they're just kind of like that. Uh and so they continually break apart, and so now you lost your flow again, and that stimulates that's low, and then you have you wind up getting hypoxic in that area because you the blood vessels broke, so you're not getting oxygen there, and that hypoxia stimulates the growth of new blood vessels and new tumor proliferation, and so these new blood vessels are growing so quickly they're they don't have the uh required amount of time to become healthy blood vessels that are uh inner innervated with the autonomic nervous system to control flow, if they don't have that, right? And so that's the problem. So, how do you increase uh tumor accessibility? Exercise moving around isn't gonna keep blood flow happening, right? Um you know that's one way. Um whole body hypothermia increased uh increasing the blood flow all over the body, um, you know, and uh you know that does it and um so anyway, there's there's lots of ways to enhance that, but that's what that is. You wish I were so we're gonna I'm gonna get into some of the uh questions on on parasitics with regards to CFC. So, but anyway, um, so there are ways of doing and one of the most important, if not the most important, is to control your stress. Uh, and stress is when you don't like what is, no matter what it is, you can be stressed out over getting a new job. A lot of people would be happy. You could be stressed out over um something that makes sense, like someone standing there with a gun. It's kind of yeah, so anyway, stress is when you don't like what is, and as a result, your body goes into this your adrenal glands kick in, you've got this cortisol, and you've got adrenaline, just and you're on fire. Okay, so that's it. What that does is shuts down your immune system, shuts down flow to all the organs except for your muscles. Stress really blocks out, just undoes everything. So you gotta learn how to manage that. You learn how to manage that by turning off your mind. And how do you turn off your mind? Because you focus on one thing you're breathing for two minutes five times a day. For two minutes, five times a day. You sit down, you put wherever you are, you find a place to be quiet for two minutes. Anyone can find two minutes, you know, go into the bathroom. You're at work, so you gotta go to the bathroom, go to the bathroom, and put an eye mask on, earplugs if you need to, and just for two minutes, very intently listen to your breathing for as long as you can. And when you find yourself off in the should be land, come back quickly to that place. Just two minutes, five times a day. But be consistent, be religious, and eventually you're gonna find what I'm talking about. You're gonna wind up in a place called now, and your immune system goes through the roof. So you got to do that, okay? Now, of course, if you're very conventionally minded and you go to a regular doctor, they're gonna give you beta blockers because beta blockers block the physiological responses of stress, so they do work, but it's not something that it you haven't developed any skills, so you're gonna keep having this problem, right? Uh and of course the gut microbiome, and there are certain bacteria that we need, right? So the acromantia, the bacteroides, theotomicron, and these other ones are really important for enhancing that immune response that we're looking for from the upscopical pattern. Okay, so anyway, um, that's it. I can't, I won't do more than than than than that for now, but I just want you to know that exists and it's something very to uh uh so someone just puts you on pranal, your doctor, that's why, because your doctor doesn't know anything about how to resume reduce stress otherwise, and probably doesn't even know what they're doing. They read about it. It's a good treatment. I'm gonna do this treatment. Why are you doing it? I don't know, because it's in the it's in it's in the protocol, you know. I've got to follow protocol, right? Because I'm a yeah. All right, so uh okay, whoa, we got a lot of questions here. Okay, now uh that's the upscalpel effect. It's really, really, really uh an amazing thing. But all in all, it tells you too even without having uh uh going after a regular tumor, you can use that minor autohemor uh ozone therapy. Um and every three days have your doctor do that. It's so anyway, let's consider that. No, by the way, stress is when you don't like what is, okay? And you're not gonna figure it out, you're not gonna work your way out of it, you're not gonna decide not to be stressed. It's not um an intellectual process uh that you can do, it's not thinking.

SPEAKER_00: 17:26

Turn off your mind, relax, and float down the street. It is not dying, it is being. Who wrote that song, buddy? Anybody who wrote that song? Turn off your mind and relax and float down the street. anybody know? Anyone one of you gotta know? Not one. I'm sad. Anyway, the Beatles.

SPEAKER_01: 17:46

All right, let's get into some questions here. Number one question is from Stacy. And so Stacy uh is asking, hi Dr. Lodi, thank you for your response. Last week, I'm the one who's reading Jane McClellan's book. I'm dealing with metastatic breast CFCs. I have two questions, please. First, has it ever been known for a person with metastatic CFCs to become free of CFCs just by using the three antiparasitics such as Nyclosumind, then Bendazol, Ivermectin, diet change, mindset prayer without blocking all pathways that Jane recommends in her book? So, first question, yes. The answer is yes. In fact, 2001, way back in 2001, um, we didn't uh in those days uh know about the antiparasitics. So we didn't use them. We didn't use any of the other repurposed drugs that uh Jane McClellan talked about. In those days, all we had was uh IPT, vitamin C and ozo. And not many people knew about IPT. I was fortunate enough to be trained way back then, early on, by Dr. Donato Perez Garcia III, grandson of the man who invented IPT back in the teens, 1918, 1920. Anyway, so we didn't have all that. And uh I've shared this story before, and she didn't even want after I had a good talk with her about how how how the whole healing understanding of healing and and health and uh rather than the disease model, the disease model is a Rockefellerian um construct that has you running around quickly chasing dragons and fairies. These dragons and fairies, you're chasing them, you can't catch them because they don't exist. What are we talking about by dragons and fairies and other mythological creatures? We're talking about the disease model, which is the BS model. Okay, there are no diseases. What the hell is this guy talking about? Is he a real doctor? Yeah, that's why I put these up here. I just want to because people are saying, well, can't it, doctor? One guy asked me, What's your doctorate in? Oh well, I don't remember it. It's MD, it's not a yeah. So I said there's no disease, and there are no diseases. What happens is the body is a physiologically adapts to whatever it needs to adapt to maintain functional integrity. All right, that's the wired-in mechanism in all biological entities. A tree, a bacterium, any biological entity is got this thing in it, this that's this substance, this breath of life, this reality called life. And life says, I want to live, and I'm gonna, and you gotta push me over here. I'm gonna so it's you know, uh, just think of life as uh a quarterback trying to get through all that, okay. So life is the quarterback, uh, and you're the ball. All right, and uh let's hope that quarterback's good, and it will be good if you feed it, right? Take care of that quarterback, right? Feed it, yeah. So, anyway, but that's what life is, and life uh uh needs to live. So it adapts to any situation that it needs to adapt. Oh, there's too much water, it swims. Falling off the cliff, cliff, it flies. That's how incredible it is. It can do that. These are these these adaptive homeostatic responses are what we what the Rockefellers want us to believe. Yeah, and I'm talking about Rocky and his boys, right? Yeah, JD. I know one day they're gonna eliminate me. Maybe shoot me in the ear, but if they do, I hope there's a a flag behind me. I'm just gonna stand up if they shoot me in the ear. Um, so there are so there's no thing there's nothing. These are adaptive responses. For example, I've got diabetes type two because I'm eating all this pasta and stuff.

SPEAKER_00: 22:00

Stop eating the pasta.

SPEAKER_01: 22:01

My body will no longer need to be insulin resistant. Uh okay. The same with any of them. I got an arthritis. My they're inflamed, inflammation, arthritis in the joints, arthro. How do I get rid of what do I take to kill it? I don't. I change my life and my biochemistry so that uh there uh is no inflammatory response because inflammation is a response of the body to heal. So you have acute inflammation, which is going to be red, hot, swollen, and painful. It's gonna be uh, but a chronic inflammation is and that's when you wind up with things like arthritis, gastritis, irritis, cervicitis, any colitis. So you eliminate the inflammatory response by eliminating those things that are stimulating it, which are toxins. So they're always toxins and stress. Toxins and stress are what? And and the the other thing that causes the body to try to really get inflamed is when it is being undernourished or overnourished. Actually, overnourishment is a misnomer because overnourishment means you're getting a lot of stuff you don't need and you're not getting enough of the stuff you do need. So it's not like getting, you know, you're not getting because you know, guess what? If you were eating real food, human food, you could not and wouldn't not overeat. It wouldn't be possible. Wouldn't be possible. And if you don't believe me, let's have a bet. But you gotta be eating that way for at least a couple weeks until your body is adjusted. No, let me see you overeat. I want to see you eat too many salads, too many apples.

SPEAKER_00: 23:32

Not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01: 23:34

I mean, if you're not eating anything else, that's that's all you eat, right? You're not eating, you know, bread and pizza, and you're only eating uncooked plants. You cannot overeat. Anyway. So, anyway, what is called what are referred to as diseases are the body uh adapting, homeostatically adapting to maintain functional integrity in a situation where its needs are not being met and it is being thwarted by things it does not need, called poisons. All right, it's that simple. I'm sorry, it's that simple, it's not complicated. Well, anything that should the questions, if you think about what you're trying to do, right? What are you trying to do? You're trying to eliminate all toxins and provide only what the body needs. And if you do that, the body will be in a harmonic balance. And what it needs is it needs to go to sleep early, it needs to move around during the day. Okay, so it's not just the food, but the food needs to be food, and the food is the food that grows. It's what the earth provided, because the earth kind of we arose out of the earth, by the way, right? Because we're called earthlings, but don't tell anybody. Don't tell, let's keep this a secret. Um, but anyway, we are earthlings, shh, and uh everything that we need is provided to us by the earth without augmentation. Really? Can you believe that? We do not have to boil the grapes, we do not have to boil the uh apples. Yeah, uh, we don't have to barbecue the celery. We don't to get the benefit. Well, if you barbecue celery, it's gonna do what? Well, it tastes better to people who are used to eating that way. Does it taste better to people that are not used to eating that way?

SPEAKER_00: 25:08

No.

SPEAKER_01: 25:09

Anyway, the the answer is yes. And I had this woman who refused to do even vitamin C or anything. She just said, I'm gonna live, I'm gonna do what she said, because that that is all I need. Everything went away. She didn't even do it with the vitamin C. Second question is uh you recommend I take anti-expongal. I'm taking black seed oil. Do you think that's enough? I'm submitting this question again from last week. You weren't able to get to black seed oil once per day. I was thinking of moving up to two teaspoons per day. I also take fenbendazole twice a day, um, and and niclosamide. Are you looking for it? Because you the company I I had suggested, Niclofsam.com, is out of apparently out of it for now, out of the medications. Um, and you got iromectin. Currently on neuralinixin and sepsidabine. So, right, right. So, all the things you're talking about, yes, yes, yes, yes. So I've kind of answered that. If you absolutely know you're gonna heal, because you know that's all you need to do is restore balance, you will heal. Period. You will heal. And that's not anything that I like came up with, or that's just called faith. Faith is when you know what's gonna happen before it happens, not believe. Believing doesn't get there because whenever you believe something, you are also doubting it. Belief implies doubt, knowing is not doubt. When you know you're gonna heal, you heal pretty powerful statement. Is it true? It's true. The thing is, most people don't know that they don't know that they're gonna heal, they don't realize that they think maybe if never okay. And how do you go from fear to faith by knowledge? When you understand what's going on, you now have knowledge, and you well gosh, if if if I do this, that'll happen because that's just right when you see it. Well, yeah, I plant the seed and I'm gonna water it, make sure the soil's good and all that, and I'm gonna wind up with a with the tomato if I planted the tomato seed, right? Unless there's something that comes in and blocks the process, that's gonna happen. Let's kind of know it. You don't believe it. You know, I really believe if I water that seed and I have good soil, I believe it might turn into a tomato. Well, believing is not knowing, knowing is knowing. Okay, you don't do I believe that two plus two is four? No, I know it is. Do you know it is? Okay, so anyway, you've got to come to know, and the way you come to know is with knowledge. And how do you get knowledge? Because you you study and you look for it, all right, and you don't just follow directions. Well, he said then she said, and I heard, forget all that. Read, find out. I don't want someone's um opinion of having someone who read the Bible and I'm gonna read their take on it. No way, I'm gonna read the Bible. I don't care what he thought or she thought. What do I think?

SPEAKER_00: 28:01

Anyway, that's that.

SPEAKER_01: 28:02

So, by the way, so that's the thing. What you have to do, um, it's very important, Stacy, is that you understand that you've got to become to the point where you don't have to ask these questions because you know, you know, right? And uh just um, you know, in case uh, you know, like for example, when we think of when we're talking about ivermectin and all that stuff, uh and and uh and all the other antiparasitics, how do they eliminate CFCs? How could they do that? These are antiparasitics, and you know, let me just give you a quick quickie here. Okay, so ivermectin, which is produced by a uh a microorganism in the soil, um, what it does is fundamentally for the for the uh for the parasite, what it does is it increases chloride ion through the cell membranes, right? Which completely disrupts the cells and uh in in the the parasite, it winds up producing GABA agera, uh GABA amino butyric acid, um, and that uh uh paralyzes its nerves and it can't function and it dies through that way, right? So it's a call it just increases chloride ion flux. That's what it does. So, but it also uh it also turns out to inhibit mitochondrial complex one, right? And it reduces the number of reactive oxygen species or free radicals, right? So, and therefore it decreases all this oxidative stress that causes cells to eventually ferment. Um, and it signals the main thing is that I think is that it signals, it turns off these pathways. So the Pac-1 kinase pathway, which you may not have heard of, but it is a door at the doorway, at the gateway, that all these other pathways, such as the AKT, MTOR pathway, uh, WNT, there's all these other pathways that are NF Kappa Beta, ERC, all these things that you may not have heard of. You may have seen them in your readings, but they are pathways, biop biochemical pathways that are required for for CFCs to exist and to be vibrant and well, right? And so uh so but PAC one is right there at the beginning, and and ivermectin inhibits it. That's a big, big, big deal. Okay. And um, you know, the what do you call it? The uh in fact, okay, so so the pac one that we're talking about. Um what is PAC 20? You've heard of P53, which is a tumor suppressor gene, right? There's P53, there's also P21, there's also PTEN. But the P21, um, there's a P21 activated kinase, so it's just Pac one, right? And what it does is it when you it would normally turn on all these pathways, including the WNT, B catechin, the MAP kinase, the AKTMTOR, all these pathways it would turn on. So if you block it, you block all of that. And that's and when we're looking at breasts, lung, colon, prostate, cervical, all of the melanoma, it doesn't matter, they're all using the variety of these different kinds of the different parts of these pathways, all right. Um, you know, so it's tremendous what I've Hermington does. Okay. So, because when you consider Pac One's pivotal role in the whole process of CFCs and blocking it, that's a major, major deal. So it's become they're looking for ways of studying it now, and they've already got the answer, but forget that because we can't really make money out.

unknown: 31:30

All right.

SPEAKER_01: 31:31

So it even shows that in triple negative BC. Oh my god, triple negative CFCs, breast CFCs, it actually helps. They don't like that because they're not going to make a ton of money if we can make it better. Um, how about liver CFCs? All right, usually uh related to what's called hepatitis B and hepatitis C worldwide. Fourth leading cause. If you know, I mean it's it's it's it's the fourth leading cause of CFC death worldwide. So it's pretty significant, right? Ivermectin knocks it out, prostate CFC and leukemia knocks it out, right? The chronic uh myeloid leukemias and uh prostate all that knocks it out. Okay, that's ivermectin. And then we're talking about fenazole. Again, fenbendazole it does so much stuff, you know, it basically blocks the microtubules, which is what's the a lot of the chemotherapy drugs do, right? That's what they do. A lot of you know the well-known um chemotherapy drugs like the tact the taxanes and the vinca alkaloids, uh, taxanes, you know, like packlitaxol, you know, you know, taxate or taxol, those that you we you, I'm sure you've you've heard of those and uh tubulin. So blocking this tubulin, because tubulin, these microtubules are how cells they're kind of like the uh soft, soft skeletons. And so when a cell needs to divide, which is what CFCs need to do, they need to keep dividing. It can't divide because if you block those those those those microtubules, it can't divide, it doesn't have it can't move. All right, so you stop the whole thing, and that's what fembenzole does and mebendazole, etc. Um, and right. But that that's just one of the things it does. It also activates the the P30, the P38 map kinase pathway, which all these pathways that are activated are how these um antiparasitics have uh relevancy to CFCs. It's because that that's what they're doing, in addition to, as we talked before, about the chloride and the and the CFCs, chlorine entering the uh and the uh uh parasites. It does all this stuff, it's pretty amazing. It's just it's just incredible. And what's incredible is that um they don't just say, okay, well, let's go with it, let's study it. They don't do that, they're still looking for money and drugs. That's it. Just so keep in mind. Um, it's absolutely insane. So I just want you to understand how powerful this is. All right, good. Now, um let's look at the next question. And this is Gail. Gail, yeah, Gail. And she wants to know the breast CFC and psoriasis connection. Hi, Dr. Lodi, I'm a 45-year-old female. I I have had psoriasis for many years and was diagnosed with early stage breast CFC almost 18 months ago. I had a few biopsies and then declined surgery and have been following an integrative helipath diet changes, supplements, including many anti-inflammatories such as curkelin, off-label medications, mabendazol, femendazole, ivermectin, high dose of melatonin, and low dose of naltrexol, high dose of vitamin C, detox including infrared soliding optional dealing with trauma. Recently, I was looking into similar and various pathways of psoriasis and breast CFCs, and it seems that there are many similar pathways which promote both of these diseases. What did I hear? I heard I heard that word, disease. It's a myth. But because you're using it, you bought into it, and you're on the Rockefeller train and you know where the Rockefeller train ends. Everybody know where does the Rockefeller train end? Because wherever you get onto it, it should it takes you to the hospital. And does it go out? Which exit does it go out? The Rockefeller train. Anybody? That's right. The morgue. The morgue. Did I hear that correctly? You heard that correctly.

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All right.

SPEAKER_01: 35:16

So get off that train. There's no diseases. There's a disease over there. There's three diseases in the other room there. I even saw one right next to that COVID. There's a COVID on that desk. You see the COVID right next to it. Are two diseases. I don't know what they are, but they're diseases. How do you know? Well, I know. Anyway, so um, this is all madness. Okay, the body is adapting. That's it. The body is adapting. There's only physiology. There's adaptive physiology. Adaptive physiology. Period. It's not pathological. What's the pathological diagnosis? These guys are insane, evil. So uh let me just tell you, Gail, you're doing lots of really good things. And I but you said diet changes, I don't know what that means. So that's why if you were in the groups, we could talk about what you mean by that. And what supplements and how long have you been doing it? And what's what doses and what frequency? And when do you go to sleep? And um, how often do you uh practice turning off your thinking, your mind? And there's so many things I need to ask you, but your real question here really is about the uh connection between psoriasis and breast CFCs, right? And so um it's what's kind of crazy is that uh um there is a relationship between psoriasis and breast CFCs and lung and colon and melanoma and uh uh lymphoma. It turns out uh that there's a relationship between uh psoriasis and diabetes. And so uh if you look at the studies for this kind of thing, there's people that with breast CFCs have a 17% increase of developing psoriasis, and conversely, having psoriasis is also associated with an increased risk of having breast CFCs. Not that big of a risk, not that a risk, and I don't know what risk means, but anyway, um so basically it was slightly increased compared to the general population when we're looking at breast. But we now know it's with with other ones. When they did a they did a uh you know a meta-analysis where they look at multiple, multiple clinical trials and they try to come up with some conclusion based on multiple clinical trials instead of just one. And um, you know, and then uh in this one, there was one large one that was um published in 2023, and it was called the you know, the risk of breast CFCs among patients with psoriasis, systemic review and meta-analysis. And basically what they found in the end was simply that mild to moderate uh psoriasis didn't really have a risk, increased risk, did not have an elevated risk, mild to moderate, and neither did the severe. So that was one study, right? And then there was other studies, the JAMA that showed that well, it did, it had not only that, it had an increased risk for colon, kidney, laryngeal, liver, CFCs, lymphomas, non lymphomas, esophageal, oral, all these, in other words, that pancreatic, you name it, because we all know that CFCs are the only difference between pancreatic and breast and and and colon is the first word, not the second word. All right, because the first word is lymplication. So wherever it is, wherever it is happening, is that's where it's happening. It's not different, it still has to meet specific qualifications, and that one specific qualification to call it chronically fermenting cell is that it is engaging in uh aerobic glycolysis, which is fermentation in the presence of oxygen, which normally doesn't happen. Fermentation is a process that occurs when there is no oxygen available, but when a cell is able to ferment in the and does ferment in the presence of oxygen, it's called aerobic glycolysis. And if it's doing that, and if it's not doing that, it's not a CSC. So it's pretty much the definition. So um, gym location, that's all it is. They're not different types, there's only one type, it's called aerobic glycolysis, and it's gonna be different in the ovary than it will in the eye because the ovary has different functions than the eye or the skin. So they have different functions, so they do those tissues do different things, but it's still fundamentally what's going on is that it's chronically chromatic cells because it's not this is not complicated, it's too simple, and it's so simple I don't believe it. I don't believe it. It's gotta be complicated, and we gotta have big words, and I've got to not know what you're talking about to believe you. If I don't know what you're talking about, then I know you're telling me the truth, right? Yeah, that's how we think, and that's how they want us to think, and yeah, uh, sadly, most people do. All right, so um, anyway. So, what is psoriasis? Psoriasis is, according to the Rocky and the gang, psoriasis is an autoimmune condition. Oh, you know what that is, right? That's when the body, stupid body, stupid body starts attacking itself. You know, it's and I want to tell you how stupid this body is. It's engaging in um sextillion chemical reactions every second, and a sextillion is 21 zero. So 37 sextilian chemical reactions every second. Does that sound stupid to you? No, especially since every reaction is dependent on the reaction next to it, right? Does it feed this way or feed that way? Is that stupid? No. How about the fact that it's making at least 37 million new cells per second? Does that sound pretty stupid? Pretty stupid, it's not stupid.

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It's not stupid.

SPEAKER_01: 40:43

Um, it's beyond Intelli, it's beyond our capability of even knowing what's going on. We don't even know what's going on. We can't even observe what's going on because we don't know, we don't have the ability to comprehend it. So it's not stupid. Okay, it doesn't attack itself. Immune systems going whatever's happening in nature, in biology, is happening because it's must happen. It's called the law of necessity. So if the body is doing something, it's doing it because it has to, and there's a reason. So if the immune system is activated in one part of the body and doing whatever it's doing, it's doing it because something is activating it. It doesn't just get bored and start activating itself or make a mistake. You know, make a mistake. Can you imagine? It does not make mistakes, it can't. All right, so we have to we have to restore our reverence and our awe and our respect for nature and God, and not go running to these guys with the white coat, these guys and girls with the white coats who don't know anything. How can I say that? Because I know these guys, went to school with them, I was in the hospital training with them, I worked with them after I finished training and know them, and I wouldn't trust my life with them. So, I mean, some I would, of course. Of course, of course, not all of them, but just 99.9% that's it, that I wouldn't trust. So, anyway, psoriasis is an autoimmune condition. So, therefore, what's that mean? That means the immune system has been disrupted. It's something's going on. So, the immune system is like hyper in one area and shut down in another area, and it's just what they what they've defined as hype is autoimmune. So, fundamentally, basically, what does one understand now? The immune system's in trouble, it's spinning its wheels in the wrong direction. The wrong direction. That's how we think, but it's doing what it needs to do, anyway. That immune disruption, dysregulation allows for CFCs to develop, of course, because you don't have the normal regulatory, healthy regulatory processes uh that uh are are the work of the immune system. The immune system is no longer in this particular situation, it's not able to perform the functions that it would because it's doing something else, it's been hijacked. All right, so of course, CFCs can develop. So it's nothing specific about psoriasis. They like to draw these, they like to anything they can do to keep you scared and and to and researching uh ways to combat this ways to militarily take over and kill something. I gotta get the give me the name of that enemy. And there was the name the enemy is now oh, triple negative. I gotta so in other words, we get names of enemies, right? We get the boogeyman and we go after them, you know. Um, we're gonna call this one a Saddam Hussein. We're gonna call this one um what's his name? Bin Laden. This was Bin Laden over here in uh oh, it's diabetes. I thought it was Bin Laden. I'm I'm uh my bad. Uh but anyway, Bin Laden Diabetes, they're both you gotta get them, you gotta kill them, get rid of them, right? Okay, I hope you can you see what I've learned over the years is that explaining things to people in a rational way doesn't work repeatedly doesn't work. So the way you can get through those blocks, those walls is um humor. Because when someone's laughing, you can sneak in. Shock, did he say that? Yeah, it gets in, and one other way it's called sarcasm. Sarcasm just kind of winds its way right in there, and without knowing it, you've got the point. So I uh learned to speak fluent sarcasm. I've been practicing while I went to school for it, yeah. Um, and at the sarcastic academy. Um got straight A's, so um, and um that's what I use in case you didn't know. Um that's the psoriasis. So don't think about the psoriasis, don't they got the they want you into this little segued rabbit hole where they're gonna get you down there, and you're gonna in the end they're gonna hand you some drugs. That's the purpose of this. All right, and they're and keep they're gonna keep you scared and hand you drugs, keep you scared and hand you drugs, keep you scared and hand you drugs, keep you scared and hand you drugs. That's the name of the game. Okay, so um, anyway, I had people who had psoriasis, and I mean I had a guy it was a just I've never seen anything since before or since, but the psoriasis was so bad, so bad, like good and bad. The psoriasis was so severe, so um extensive that every morning when he woke up, he had to change his sheet because there was about a quarter inch, half an inch of skin exfoliated that covered his entire sheet. And what did we do to help him? I taught him how to do nothing. And guess what happened when he did nothing? It cleared up. So, what the hell is this guy talking about? We look at those vaporized. It's called fasting, cleansing. We started with the juice cleanse, we went into water fast, and there was a few crazy nights there. Um, but it took us about a month, and we were down to being having just a few areas like where people with moderate psoriasis would have, and then you know, eventually uh it went away. But you have to be persistent. So that's that. That's that. I just want to tell you about so when someone's got psoriasis with uh but no apparently, but apparently not having any CFCs. And remember, as I said, psoriasis is an autoimmune inflammatory condition, right? So we also see associations with other diseases like Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis, which are autoimmune inflammatory, and they're also associated with CFCs. Because what we're talking about is a disrupted immune system that uh that that that precludes the required regulatory actions of the immune system, and so you wind up getting these things. That's why it's not nothing specific to that. So get out. That's Rockefeller Ring, which ends at the what where does it end? The train, all aboard for right. Can you see in there? JD, all aboard for the morgue, all aboard for the morgue, all aboard for the morgue. Don't get on the train. And am I crazy? I guess so. Are they not crazy? I guess not. So I'll take the crazy group. Let's go to the next question, Gail. I hope you got that. Okay, this is Enola, and I was trying to find the link to order prescriptions for parasites. My main problem is Candida Alpicans, in my opinion. It's systemic. My symptoms started after starting birth control 50 years ago. I finally did lots of reading, and that's where I diagnosed myself. No help with any doctors. I tried CDs, I tried CDs and ended up with severe die off. CDs. You tried CDs and you ended up with a severe die-off, and then diarrhea for 11 days, messed me up, not able to leave the house. Took many months not having to run to the bathroom. Wow, what those CDs? That was five years ago, and still with severe constipation. I believe now that I stopped the CDs too soon of being very ill. Someone help me. What's a CD? Anyone know what a CD is? You guys? Hey everybody in Instagram land. What the hell is a CD? Tell me. CDs. What are CDs? Anyone? Uh CDs. So cash deposits. What are CDs? Uh look uh take a look at the uh Phoenix group, okay, Tammy. Tell me if there's anything wrong with this picture here. Okay. Stephanie Michael. Oh, large disease. Is that what CD is? Thank you. Boy, my God. We rec who's now Stephanie Michael is recommending that you go to the Everwell Herbal Clinic and replying to Yulia. You recommend that Yulia go and you recommend that Jennifer Jawowski goes and you recommend that Shelly Castaya, you recommend that everybody goes to the Everwell Herbal Clinic. Whoops. Wow, what happened? Are we back on now? Just said uh it just said that we are. Am I back on? It said I'm off. All right. So I don't know. See someone's saying C D is carbon diox. Somebody's saying it's what? Chronic disease. Whatever it is. Okay, let's just go back to the question because um I'm gonna go back to the question. Okay, so uh I took many months and run that was five years ago, and still have severe constipation. So you were having diarrhea, but now you have constipation and you think that you stopped the CDs too soon. The CDs, this doesn't sound like great. You didn't see a break. Great, they're just freaking trying to freak me out. Chlorine dioxide, is that it? Is it I took the CDs? So please, you guys, from now on, don't use acronyms. Just say the word because I don't know why I don't know you took CDs. I don't know. I used to have a CD player, you I used to play CDs. I don't know what you mean by CDs. I'm sad. Sorry. So please, you guys, don't use these things, okay? Um was that Candida? No, I don't know. Anyway, whatever's insane. So you stopped the CDs too soon, you became ill. So so much inflammation came again and again. It was so painful. It drew me off the toilet and laid down. One wonderful thing is it took away all the pain. You mean CBD?

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I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 50:36

For many years I suffered. Doctor gave me two months of fluconazole plus nystatin, no help. Tried many essential oils. I know someone that has given mycopungin IV and her candida is gone. I would love to be well. I know your institute is for CFC patients, but I'm looking for somewhere to go. Water fast. Hope you can help me, please. All right, very good. So, you know, the beautiful thing is it sounds like you're ready to do whatever's necessary, and that's the beginning of healing. That's how healing begins. So, and especially the mind, the mind, the the the condition one's mind has to be in to say, I'll do anything to heal, means that the your pain and suffering has done its job. And pain and suffering, the job of I'm thinking it might be chlorine. So, um, and and the job of pain and suffering is to render, is to get rid of all of our arrogance, to get rid of all of our uh presumptiveness, to get rid of our uh objections and resistance and negotiating and say, I don't know, I'll do whatever. And you completely open up to a world called health, and this is where God comes in, and that's it. That's enough. So you've reached that place. It's beautiful. So you said you'll water fast, whatever you'll do. So, yes, and whatever's going on with you, if you have a candida, Albacans overgrowth, because candida is albacons are part of our normal flora, so they're actually not, it's not like I'm being attacked by them. It's just that they found some parking places. Some people moved out and they moved in, and so who moved out were the ones we needed. So, in other words, we lost the um microorganisms that we need to have there because they weren't being fed, they weren't being fed because this depends on what you're eating, because what you're eating is what they're eating. So, what you have for dinner is what they have for dinner, period. So, if you've got a dysbiosis, you've got a problem with the relative proportions of microorganisms, it's because you're feeding that way. If you change the diet, then you'll be feeding other ones and not those, and that's just how it works. So, yes, cleansing, water fasting, and water fasting is tremendous. Um, water fasting actually re-establishes uh the gut, it actually uh uh restores uh the integrity of the mucosal barrier in the gut. So leaky gut is is healed by fasting and cleansing. Fasting actually heals it. It does. This is well published, so it does it in multiple ways and it allows for the restoration of a healthy gut biome. Can you imagine? Now you're not feeding it anything, but by not feeding them anything, you're allowing them to go back into the way that they're the most comfortable. So now when you eat again, once you re-eat again after you've done a you've done a water fast, that's when you eat only foods that gonna that are gonna maintain a healthy gut biome. By the way, if you have a completely healthy, well-balanced gut biome, you're healthy. There, you're there's not there can be nothing wrong with there will be no discomfort at all. So water fast, the only place I know of in the United States of, I mean the divided states of America is in Northern California, in Santa Rosa. It's a place called True North, and they're pretty good. So that's the only place I know of in the U.S. There may be other ones. I mean in the DS. Okay. Divided States of America. Anyway, um, and then with the regarding fluganazole and nice stat and all the other ones, you can get them online. There's um various pharmacies. I'm sure someone will write it in the group, but they're uh uh someone will write it in the group. But there, there are we've and if you join our groups, you should join our group. Really, um uh you know, join this group, the parasite group, and we'll we'll talk all about that. But these we there's amazing the you know, the other members of the group have these incredible uh resources because they've been going through this a long time of where you can get just about anything without I think to have um without having to talk to any white white coated um warlocks or uh witches. So and that's it. Water fast is the beginning of the attitude, and then the water you're you're on your way, you're on your way. All you gotta do is not mess up again. All right, ploy, hi ploy. My name is Ploy. So I dika kun ploy pull to ploy, yindap bone broth fasting. Anything you can get in bone broth, and look it up, look out what's in bone broth. You can also get in um if you wanted to uh make a vegetable broth, you can get it all, and you don't have to have an animal killed and then boil their bones. I don't know about that. I really have vegetable broth and boiled bones. Who knows what's in them bones, anyway. You don't have to eat, believe me, you can get and I know this might be a shock to many people, but you can actually be restored to health without eating corpses of any kind. It's amazing. It's called the corpless diet, corpseless diet. This corpseless diet actually works, it actually works. So please remember that corpseless. It's the CL diet, anyway. Uh, understand that. All right. So, what we want to do, Enola, is restore balance, get your gut healed, and restore balance, and it will all be healthy, right? We need to balance your hormones, we need to balance balance every part of your body. Autonomic nervous system gets you out of sympathetic because I know you're like stressed out from this. Of course, that's pretty normal response to having these kinds of problems, absolutely normal. So we've got to work on all those levels uh with dealing with the stress, with diet, with clean fasting, uh, you know, colon hydrotherapy. There's all many things that need to be done. It's a full-on program, and the results is you're gonna feel fantastic and be happy and optimistic and full of energy and have clarity, and all that stuff happens. So uh it's worth it. So join our join our group so I can talk to you. I want to talk to you. All right. All right, now this is I never left YouTube. Cool, so strange. Because they kept saying, you know, so Diane just came on. What's the best for gut health? First of all, cleansing, you know, do a juice cleansing, do a water fast, uh, and then when you restore, go back to eating, eat only human food, which is uncooked plants, fruit, nuts, and seeds. Eat in the six-hour way, they'll stop eating five hours before sleep, and you will have you're done. You're done, you're done. And learn to turn this guy off. That's it all. Lady, you've got a mad woman inside of you, I got a mad man inside of me.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 57:24

Okay, so now here. This is uh Maureen, and Maureen says that um granddaughter born with tumor cysts in the right breast, three large cysts on top of hundreds of little ones. They're not fluid to be popped, no blood flow. Doctors injected antibiotic to shrink, barely shrinking them two years now. No good answers, name for condition, looking for direction and possibilities to organically dissolve them. Maureen, where did you go to what kind of doctors? I mean, my god, that's crazy. All right, so anyway, it's not uncommon for babies, it's not common, but babies, both male and female, can be born with lumps, or maybe one breast or both, but usually one, where it's a little lump and a mass. And this is due to what the baby just came out of a of the womb of a woman whose hormones were bah on fire to have a baby. So all of these hormones, which have effect on breast tissue, have an effect. So 99% of the babies that are born with little lumps in their breasts are it's gonna resolve. You don't mess with it. And so, what happens if you start rubbing it and all that sort of stuff? You traumatize it, it gets infected, and then you wind up with what's called a mastitis, an infection of the breast, right? And so if that is that's what happened, so then they inject antibiotics into it. You know, I just find it you gotta admit, these guys are creative, they're creative in a way. They're creative, but on the other hand, they're not creative because they keep doing the same thing. Pope, cut, poison, it's insane. So here you got a baby with one breast that is having a little bit has some lumps in it, and you what you get. It's well known that the mother's hormones will do that. It's well known, it can happen to male or female, but now if it's been going on two years, that means they messed with it, and now you this is a secondary situation, it's a secondary condition, it's not the primary, the primary would have gone away nor healthy. So the best thing you can do now is stop doing anything and let the baby be. You know, give the baby healthy food. It's probably off breast milk. I hope if the baby was breastfed, um, and I hope the mother was feeding herself human food. Um, and uh so but two years now, so um, and then just leave that baby, leave it, don't give it any drugs. Babies don't need drugs, and you have to do all kinds of testing and all that stuff. Just say, just assume that God actually knows what it's doing, she's doing it stuff. Understand that the intelligent design of all that is, the underlying fabric of existence, which is intelligence, which is God, which is how it all happens, um, is pretty smart. And it's gonna work out. It's gonna work out, and if you can just leave it alone, all right. So we find that we heal when we get out of the way, when we stop intervening, healing is what happens, it's a hardwired process into all biology, and it's what we were talking about prior previously about homeostasis and all this. So, we're not we're not gonna talk about anything different at this point, okay? So it's always the same thing. So they inducted anti bio antibiotic to make it shrink. Yup, I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say.

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My god.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:55

So, anyway, that's for your your your your your granddaughter. So believe me, make sure the mother's healthy and the baby's eating, you know, carrots, celery, avocados. Um, uh you know, you can blend up raw broccoli, and you you can get raw broccoli. Blend it up with some get some raw almond butter or raw cashew butter or some other good butter, fresh uncooked raw butter, um, pumpkin seed butter. Blend it all up and a little bit of water, and um it's delicious. The baby will love it, uh and you can blend up spinach and avocado and a little bit of lemon, and you've got a delicious, delicious, and it's soft and it's full of extremely nutritious and it's real food. The body will recognize it. You can make babies healthy just by giving them a chance to be healthy and don't put things into them. They don't need drugs or chemicals. They need they need smiles and love and activity and sunlight and good sleep, and they need to be eating food that the earth produced, not food that was produced in a laboratory called the kitchen. Kitchen's a laboratory, it's where they thermally degenerate uh food, thermally degenerate healthy food substances. I've got some organic uh tomatoes here, but I boiled the shit out of them. Now I got all right, great. That's a good tomato sauce. You think it's as nutritious as the tomatoes were? Yeah, yeah. But I I I I I simmered them a long time. Got more lycopene. I can prove that. All right, you can prove it's got more lycopene. Now tell me where I can find a lycopene tree. Because if lycopene is so important, we must have trees that are pure lycopene. We don't. What do we get? We get lycopene mixed with beta-carotene, gamba peritene, lutein, uh uh uh tacopherols, tocotrianols, uh, phytoestrogens. It's in there, it's fiber, ascorbates, uh, thiamine. It's all B12, cabulamine, it's all mixed up together in a beautiful amalgamation that is perfect sustenance for humans. That does not require thermal degeneration. This does not take brilliance, this takes no brilliance. Get rid of your brilliance, get rid of your intelligence, relax and let your mind open your eyes, and you say, Oh gosh, that's true. That makes sense. It grew that way. I guess I can eat it that way. Oh my god, is that true? You mean I can eat this. You better cook it, you better give it up because there's bacteria, there's a microorganism. You uh you don't know how you I I I wish what I was saying was like not spot on, but they say that. Do you know they thought chemotherapy? I don't think you'd have any uh fresh vegetables or fruits because of the bacteria. You get we all you should want to do with these people is uh uh have tongue ectomies to take out the uh remove their tongues and insert them into their rectums because that's what they need, that's how they need to be. Okay, that way um they can uh it'll be a benefit to the world because you won't have to hear them. So the bacteria and the microorganisms that we are exposed to is how our immune system develops, develops competence. When we look at studies of children born in what we call unfavorable conditions, like the ghetto and poverty, and we find that their immune systems are stronger than the middle class and the upper class. Why? Because they're exposed to all kinds of stuff, and their immune systems are powerful, they don't have eczema and uh atopy and all these you know white boy syndromes. Um, they don't have that, they're strong immune systems, and if you're gonna get colostrum, because I want colostrum, it's an immune system. You're gonna get colostrum from where? I'm gonna get it from a cow. Why are you gonna get it from a cow? Because the cow has its face in the dirt all day long, and it has a powerful immune system because it has to. So you want a powerful immune system, make it work out. Okay, but you want some strong muscles, work out. You want a strong mind? Read, debate, you're gonna have a strong mind. Want a strong immune system, let it get exposed. Maureen, you and your daughter take care of the baby and give it sunshine, rest, play, and real food. Chewing carrots, chew on either so if she if she's teething, that's a great thing. Carrots. Now, this is Mark. Um, and my daughter has a soft tissue sarcoma. She's been going for chemotherapy treatment and is approximately halfway through this treatment. I am concerned for her health and her well-being and her state of mind. We are looking at vermin and fenbendazole for a starting point along with proper nutrition and possibly having her body in a slightly alkaline state. What advice can you give me for her? So, the protocol I'm thinking of for her is a seven-day fast with essential minerals from sea salt. After we break the fast, the plan would be to take ivermectin paste, 0.75 grams per day for 170-pound female, and a seven milliliter dose of pan cure equal guard, oral suspension for five days on four days off. My daughter means everything to me know anything, hard time keeping herself with all the confusion regards, Mark. Okay, UK. Okay, Mark, so good, good. I'm so happy your daughter has you for a father. That's fantastic because you're you're you're recognizing all the stuff that's going on, and uh yeah, so now a soft tissue sarcoma. Well, all right, so just a just a reminder, Mark, you know, what a what with a uh what a soft tissue sarcoma is. It's uh all of the sarcoma means is that it's a CFC, a chronically fermenting group of cells called a tumor that grows out of, begins in tissues that originated in the mesoderm of the embryo. So the embryo has an endoderm, mesoderm, ectoderm, an inside, a middle, and an outside is basically what it has. So if it comes from the middle part, it's called a sarcoma. And the middle part includes bones, muscles, joints, cartilage, connective tissue, you know, all this stuff. Um uh and uh yeah, so so it can be a bone, they call it osteosarcoma, or it can be a out of it can be rhabdomyosarcoma, which is from muscle, or it could be chondrosarcoma, it can arise from cartilage, it can so anything that it arises is how it gets its name. So soft tissue would be non-bony. Any any of the other tissues that it would arise from would be that are non-bony, non-hard. That's a soft tissue sarcoma. It's still what it is, is aerobic glycolysis, like we discussed before. That's what it is, period. It's just that it started here, and if it started in us in tissues that it derives from the outside, called the ectoderm or the inside the endoderm, then it would be called a carcinoma. That's all it's just terminology, which has one purpose, and that is uh they're quite successful with that purpose, and that is to keep you completely confused. And they've done it, they've got you what and you're and you're uh sadly your daughter's confused, and all that stuff. So the proper nutrition is yes, and so you should know by now you and your daughter need to join the CFC group. Period. You got a sarcoma, join the CFC group. Go to drloti.com, drlodi.com, drlodi.com, and find the CFC group and join it. One of you joins it, and then you're you other are they both there. So um join it. You'll have two meetings with me a week, dialogue talking. You'll get advice from a thousand other brilliant people, loving, brilliant people. You'll have teaching from uh the best of the best, and you'll have the emotional aspect, the fear which I can sense in you. Um it in Kathy's Corner, which will be available to you if you're CFC. So in Kathy's Corner, you'll be able to uh share with other people that are going through this similar situation, right? And of course we're afraid, of course it's freaking us out, of course. That's like you know, there's a guy with a gun over there, and my and I'm gonna say, I'm not worried. No, because when they tell you you've got this thing, they just told you you're gonna die. So they got you freaked. We're gonna unfreak you. Kathy's corner is the unfreaked corner, the defreaking, well, defreaking corner, yeah. Anyway, but all of that, so join and then we'll really help you out because I just a lot of questions I have about what you're doing, because you you're right, proper nutrition and all that stuff. Uh I love the fact that you're talking about beginning it all with a cleanse and a fast. That sounds beautiful. I'd like to help you with that and and and give you some direction in it, depending on where she's at. Now, you say she's 170 pounds. Uh, sounds kind of heavy for a female, unless she's very tall. So I didn't get her height, so I don't know what that means. But if she's that big and um she's uh like the standard height of of a woman, what for anywhere from what five five two to five six is that then that would be heavy, kind of and uh which might mean metabolic problems, which means there are metabolic problems associated with that kind of weight, because it's fat, it's fat, it's not muscles. I'm sure that she's not like one of those female bodybuilders, right? That's yeah, so it's probably fat, and that fat is gonna uh contribute to the metabolic dysfunction of the body. Um and that's under the all that underlying stuff is gonna prevent all this from he all the healing from happening. And yes, the ideas of the ivermectin and and and the fenbendazol are great, but you can get them without being in paste and stuff like that. You can just get some pills and stuff like that. And um there are places you can do that. For example, at our um, if you contact uh hello at drloody.com, hello at drloody.com, uh my assistant can help you get some of these things. But anyway, so Mark, you're really on the right track. And if your daughter's like uh you know has the same if she's saying, Yes, dad, you're right, I want to do this, then they're perfect. If she's resisting it, it'll be difficult. But so anyway, let's do this, Mark. Um, but you're really on the right thing, and I don't want you to be freaked out by all their names, but right now they're poisoning her, and I promise you, poison does not uh allow for health. Poison is not the way to heal. This is uncommon sense. Imagine this. Suppose I were to give these chemotherapeutic drugs to you or to me or to anybody who's just like the average person who's walking around who's got no real problems, and you give them this uh chemotherapy, what will happen? They'll get sick, they're not gonna feel good. So now we just gave this poison to a healthy person who that they don't feel good, they're sick from it. So, how do we make this jump to think, well, now if I give it to a sick person, they're gonna get well? You realize the madness, but that's why the Rockefeller exists. That that's that that that's the the genius, the genius of Rocky in a game. They got us believing things that we know can't possibly be true, but we're doing it. That's how powerful these guys are. If they weren't the uh something, if they weren't more severe than evil, they deserve a standing ovation because what they've done. You're on the absolute beautiful right track. Trlodi.com, join the CFC group, and let's get let's get her off that train and get her on the train to paradise, the train to health, healing, where we're all on that train. That's all the train that we're all on. It's the train to health, to healing, to uh living life fully and loving it. That's the train we're all really on. Now, here's Dolores. This is my first session. I'm on a journey to heal my dad from lung CFC's medical doctor noted nodules back in the lungs in 2016 that followed with many testing years later. Doctors didn't ever tell my dad as to why she was sending him for tests. So I tell him, yeah, he's just you know, a patient. Yeah, go over there and do that. And then when you're done, go over there and do that. Don't ask any questions, you patient. I'm familiar with that. And in July 2024, these tests became more rapid. What? So we went from 2016 up to 2024 all just testing, not knowing why. And in 2024, July, they came up with an actual diagnosis of CFCs present and advising him on the phone in November of 2024 that he had CFCs. As his daughter, they kept this from me and had completed two biopsies before my involvement. A third biopsy biopsy had to be completed, but was evasive, and my dad held off due to surgery complications from opening him up for three biopsies. Fast forward to February 2025, I had my dad do a metal detox in December. Prior to my dad's cancer diagnosis, CFC diagnosis. I had knowledge of ivermectin and feminizole and its cure for CFCs, but due to living in Ontario, Canada, I had no source or knowledge of how to obtain the product of treatment. I locate, I located fimbendazole from Lithuania and sourced ivermectin from India. I got my dad on both, but still just from my research. I had to take six ivermectin, then take fimbendazole for six days. My dad decided to do chemo, and he's been very ill from it. He lost mobility and mental health was declining. He's gone from walking with a cane to a walker due to lack of energy. He finally got his last PET scan results, and he's gone one spot with CFCs. I need to purchase ivermectin, but due to the tariffs and border issues, I'm not able to pour ivermectin from India. My dad changed his diet 100% when I'm diagnosed with CFCs. He no longer eats sugar or processed food. Can you help me, please? My dad wants to live, and I need sources for ivermectin and mebenzone. We live in Canada and I need this product and guidance on treatment. I do have CFC naturopath in dealing with that lives in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. But he doesn't know averaging about parasites treatment for CFCs. All right, Dolores. Wow. All right, so they messed around with him from 2016 to 2025 and then told him he had CFCs, and then they wanted to poison him, and they poisoned him, and he doesn't feel good about being poisoned. He's feeling sick and he's lost his mobility and all that sort of thing. So the obvious thing that you will do and he will do clearly, clearly, I don't even have to say it, do I? If I have to say it, I don't shouldn't say it, but I will because I'm a sayer, I like to say things. Uh stop doing the poison. It doesn't feel good from it. Stop it. Well, maybe he's getting better. No, getting getting better is not you do not demonstrate restoration of health by becoming weaker and losing mobility and mental health declining. That's not it.

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So ivermectin and fenbendazole, yes. And you can you're in Canada. So I, you know, I'm not I don't know about Canada. I know that you can contact um you know my hello at drloodie.com, hello drie.com, and um see what if we can help in any way get it there. Um, I know there are some pharmacies, uh, a couple pharmacies in the US that hi Leona Yosha that you can get them from too. And um, so please again join our groups because you have all these resources. I don't um, you know, I'll know all the resources off the top of my head of the different pharmacies and and all that sort of thing. Uh, but go to our website, drloty.com, and you'll find um a lot of stuff on there. Um, but your dad can definitely be healed. Uh, you've got to quickly stop poisoning him. Not you. Don't let the witches and warlocks poison him. All right. I promise you, poison does not produce health. It's hard to believe I know, I get it. But just leap of faith there. CFC's Don, okay. CFC's chronically fermenting cells, which are really what's happening to the cells in a tumor. Okay, they call it by an astrological term, right? Virgo, Leo, Gemini, and some people call it cancer. Cancer. Not an astrological sign. These are chronically fermenting cells. That's what they are. So we call them that because that's what they are. They're not an astrological sign. So it's that's they are, and also now that you have information, you know what they are, you can deal with it. How did they become fermenting? You have a you can develop a methodology for dealing with them. Okay, I'm glad you asked the question. And now, so your poor dad. Now, and you know what the cool thing is he changed his diet 100, but it but I but but 100, I'm not sure because you just mentioned that he stopped eating sugar and processed foods. That's a fantastic beginning, but it's got to be a lot more than that. So, really need to get you on here, okay? So, Dolores, please join. And so here we are. Well, we're this is with Iva. Eva, Iva, Eva. Hello, my daughter was on antibiotics for acne, then got C. diff straight seven days after completing the course, and CMV infection was also found. All this, I think, caused severe ulcerative colitis. They put her on biologics, which is not working totally, maybe to some extent. What do I do to heal their gut? I'm sorry, I don't know what uh you mean by biologics. So she was not antibiotics and she got C. diff. C. diff is Clostridia deficile, which is uh uh an opportunistic bacteria that causes all kinds of rectal bleeding, diarrhea, stuff like that. So then they give you another antibiotic to get rid of that. You've got to just restore a healthy biosis, a healthy gut biome, and we know how to do that, and especially with um, you know, if your daughter's got leaky gut, which most people do, uh, you heal that with fasting, um, and then you heal that you know for a period of time. So the water fasting is I mean, it's pretty amazing. So you understand too that um when when when when a when you when a person is water fasting, you're resting the gut. You know, if you have a sprained ankle, you're not gonna run, you're gonna elevate it and rest it, and it will heal. So when we allow a damaged organ to rest, it heals. That's what it does, it repairs itself. Okay, so during a water fast, what the body does is it it repairs by uh engaging in autophagy, meaning that it starts eating up all the unnecessary stuff and eliminating it, right? Um, and uh so it gets rid of you know organisms that it doesn't need, it gets rid of toxins and things, it just cleans all that stuff out, right? And then therefore the body doesn't need to heal from this from the chronic irritation from these guys, so that healing is inflammation, so inflammation goes down, right? And then when that happens, then the repair is that the gut will repair itself, all right? So it helps so the fasting allows for the for the gut to repair itself to heal, and it allows for the um uh so um uh hand me. All right, all right, yeah, we're here. I don't know what happened. Hey, Instagram, you didn't know that, but everybody else we got lost for a while there. Um, so pretty crazy. So it's a question is it could use diver iberromagnet during a water fast, and absolutely not you don't need to use anything during a water fast during a water fast. You are allowing the body to do what it will divinely correct everything. It's crazy, it's incredible, it's beautiful. Okay, anyway, we're back. I don't know how we got off and all that stuff. I don't know where I'm I but I'm back. I hope everyone sees that now. Uh all right, cool. So we're back on. And what time is it? Yeah, we got three minutes. Yay! Let's not stop, let's keep going wherever we can. Now, um, so they put they they put her on biologics, whatever the hell that is, and and and you don't need to I don't need to know and all that sort of thing. But what you need to do is what we've talked about before by doing the water fasting, your gut will heal. So she's got to be willing to do that. Uh, and then eat healthy food, which is real food, which is organic plant. Eat it within a six-hour window and stop eating five hours before sleep. Very simple. And don't eat other than that. And you're gonna eat seeds and nuts and nut butters and sea butters, and you're gonna eat uh, you know, salads, and you're gonna eat, you know, incredible. There's delicious, wonderful uncooked foods that are fantastic, raw foods, they call them. But they're fantastic and it's delicious, and you're you'll have a healthy gut biome. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And hopefully your daughter still has her appendix because she'll get uh restoration of her uh healthy gut flora more quickly. All right. Well, in that case, how long water fast? Well, as long as she can, a minimum of a week for her, and then again later on. But you know, as long as she can, the longer the heal. But you gotta be drinking lots of water during that time. You gotta be drinking at least three letters liters a day, and then uh twice a day, you get like a half to a full teaspoon of a good, healthy sea salt, and you put it in half a glass of water, swish it around and drink it so twice a day so you can get a good uh amount of those electrolytes. Okay, very important. Okay. Um, now this is Sue. The next one is I have been suffering from burning mouth syndrome for eight over eight years. Eating a healthy diet, working on stress reduction, and being active. What holistic measures can be implemented to reverse this? Increased pain at night is associated with an increased heart rate. Can this lead to oral CFCs? Well, okay, so burning mouth syndrome. Very bizarre that it actually got a name, but you know, they're gonna name anything, right? Uh yeah, yeah, yeah. They gotta, they gotta, they got a name for this stuff. It's it's it's it's it's just amazing. So, just for those who might not be aware of it, burning mouth syndrome is basically um affects the tongue mostly, but can affect anywhere else in the mouth. And it feels like the mouth is burning. And the lips, the gums, the roof of the mouth, every everywhere. It feels like it's burning. It's got like it was scalded. You know, if you scalded it with uh you drank really hot water or eat something really hot with cheese, like a pizza, and burn the top of your mouth, whatever. But as a result, you lose loss of taste. Things taste like metallic and yeah, just not not very good. Um, and then you can wind up with a stinging and a numbness and everything, and we call it burning mouth syndrome, and then of course there's secondary burning mouth syndrome, which is even crazier, and that is uh, you know, basically coming from something else, like uh you know, you're having a dry mouth, you're not getting enough nutrients, you have allergies and stuff like that. So there's all kinds of reasons that can result in it. But fundamentally, even though they say that they don't know what it is, uh, it is neurological. Why do we say that? Because we have tingling, numbness, burning, those are all neurological. They're not they're they're they're they're it's neurologically mediated symptoms. So we know it's neurological, and so we've got to think of the cranial nerve five, uh, which is pretty much in there a lot. Cranial nerve five is right in there with tongue and uh jaw and all that. So we have to look at cranial nerve five, maybe cranial nerve seven might be involved. But those are really what needs to be uh evaluated. So, what you do in this situation and any situation similar is cleanse because obviously toxins have overridden everything and are affecting neurologic us neurologically. So we have to get rid of the toxins first of all. We've got to do a good thorough detoxification, okay? Um, a th good thorough detoxification, it's very, very important. Um, it's essential. So I would do a juice cleanse, a green juice cleanse, celery, cucumber, kale, spinach, lemon, and green apple or a red apple, doesn't matter, make it taste good or pineapple, whatever, make it taste good. Uh, and drink three, four liters a day, stop eating, and just do that for like two weeks and just cleanse two weeks, three weeks, as long as you can. And cleanse, and you're gonna see everything get better. Get your colon cleaned out, go to sleep early by nine o'clock. Just do this. I promise you, it's gonna start to get better. Just do it. And then let me know. Come back, join our group, join the health and healing group. Okay, it's the least costly of all of them. Go to diarrholi.com, drloady.com, join health and healing. Okay, I want to see you there, okay? I'm expecting to see you there. Aren't you folks, guys, ladies, and everyone else, boys and girls, even the embryos that are in there listening. Thank you for coming this week, and I'll see you next week. And if you're in the groups, I'll see you tomorrow and your Wednesday, my Thursday. Anyway, fantastic, wonderful. And we didn't get too many technical nonsense this time, so thank the Liberty T, the gods of uh electromagnetic frequencies. Yeah, somebody copy mammascar and aloha to everyone.