Reginald D:  Welcome to Real Talk With Reginald D. I'm your host, Reginald D.

On today's episode, I have Inna Segal. Ina's work is transforming how people understand healing at its deepest level.

Inna is a pioneer in energy medicine and intuitive healer and the best selling author of the Secret language of your Body work.

Welcome to the show, Ina.

Inna: Thank you for having me so much.

Reginald D: Thank you for taking time out your busy schedules to be with me for a minute. So Inna, can you tell us about your childhood and where you grew up and take us through your journey when you arrived in Australia.

Inna: So I was born in Belarus, which is Eastern Europe, next door to Poland, and I left when I was 9 years old and we were on our way to the US Actually to probably Chicago.

It was between New York and Chicago because my parents had friends and family in, you know, in those states.

And while we were going through the immigration process in Italy. And we also left because my brother was really sick after the Chernobyl accident which was not very far from where we live.

And my parents were told that he would die if we hadn't left, if we wouldn't leave.

So it was very motivational for them to leave. And while we were going through this immigration experience in Italy,

I just think we were,

I think destiny played a role and we were told that there was a certain amount of people that would be allowed to go to America and the rest had to kind of figure it out and we were not allowed to go,

we weren't accepted.

And so my parents had a very close friend who was living in Australia at the time and they contacted him and said, well, this is what's happened. Could you sponsor us?

Because it required money and sponsorship. And he did, he was willing to do it and that's how we ended up in Australia.

Essentially in terms of my own healing journey,

I went through a lot of issues, from digestive issues to anxiety to psoriasis, some depression,

a lot of back pain. And I started with exploring the medical way of doing everything which wasn't really working for me. I would just feel like I suppress things and I get worse.

And then I started to do alternative or explore alternative medicines because I had met my first long term partner at the time and, and he took me everywhere from naturopathy to kinesiology to chiropractic to rolfing, all sorts of things that many, many, many modalities.

Unfortunately, I was showing up to them in the exact same way that I was showing up to the doctor, which is, you know, everything. I know nothing, just do it.

Fix me. I don't need to participate. Besides, you know, showing up, you know, being here in, you know, in your room, on the table, or taking the medicine that you tell me whether it's natural or alternative.

And my body wasn't having it, let's just say it wasn't working with it. So then I ended up in this chiropractor's office in agony.

I had seen him three times a week for about a year or more,

and he basically said to me, you know, your body stuck.

There's not much I can do for you because your body wants to be stuck. Go home.

And on the way home, it was occurring to me a lot that he's talking about kind of language like my mind and my body are disconnected. Then there's some language that we're just not understanding each other.

And,

you know, I thought to myself, it's not like I want to be stuck. I just don't know what it fully means on, you know, where, in what way, how. How do I do this?

And I made this decision to go home and to essentially tune into my body.

I was like, well, the only thing that I haven't tried is actually doing it myself. I've tried everything else. I've, you know, gone to every person that I could imagine.

And whilst at times I would get better, I would then revert back and, you know, there would be an explosion in my body and I would start to feel really unwell again.

And so I knew at that moment that the person that wasn't participating in it fully was me.

And so when I got home,

I can't say that I really knew what I was doing, but I also feel like that very often when we are pushed to the wall,

there's a wisdom that comes out of us. And maybe we've seen and experienced different things. And I'd gone to acting classes for many, many years where we did breath work, we did connection, we visualized that's what you do.

And we were very creative in our exploration.

So I thought, you know what?

Even though I don't know, there are things I do know.

And I can start with what I know, and I can clearly place my hands on my back, which is hurting a lot, and I can breathe into it. And rather than running away from the pain, I can start to explore the pain.

And as I was doing that and counting backwards from 30 just to. To have some space from the negativity in my own mind,

it occurred to me that, what if I ask for extra help?

You know, what if I Ask for divine help. Maybe it's there, maybe it's not available, but if I ask, I'll know. And so I did. And I said, if there is something divine out there, please help me now.

And I felt this warmth move through my body, even though I was expecting nothing to happen after that thought,

another one came. And the thought was, I wonder what my body looks like?

And a very strange thought, one I've never had before.

And within moments, it felt like my body gave me access to it. And I could see my back. It started definitely from my back. That was the issue.

And I could kind of. It was almost like an entry point into memory meets wisdom. So I can't say it was complete memory that I was seeing,

but it was kind of like this very clear visual image of me coming to Australia,

not knowing the language, being bullied,

being very much ostracized,

not being okay with myself, because I grew up being quite comfortable with me. And it was a big shock to my system to. Now I can't communicate. I'm being told that I don't belong here, and I actually feel like I don't belong in this country.

This is very, very different to anything I'd experienced or seen in Eastern Europe or Europe, because I lived in Italy for almost 10 months before coming to Australia.

So it was like,

wow, you know,

all of this disconnection, discomfort suppression.

My parents were going through a lot of internal conflict and stress,

and I absorbed it. And I think most children do when they're in an environment that doesn't feel quite safe or healthy, you know, where the parents are fighting and they can't find a way to be loving with each other, communicate.

And so I could, you know, as I was acknowledging things and feeling through them, images were changing. And I was getting a little bit more of an insight about,

oh, all of these things contributed. I'm not going to say it was one thing. It was. Here's the different layers and levels of contribution to your health,

including the fact that my grandparents had gone through the war and my grandmother lost most of her family,

you know, and how that affected my digestive system and everybody's digestive systems in the family.

And so as I was kind of going through all this,

I felt in the acknowledgment, there was choice.

And I felt and cried and went through the feelings that came up.

And then I fell asleep. And the next morning about. I realized that when I woke up that my body was unwinding the whole night. And about 70% of the pain was Gone.

And it wasn't like that was a completely new experience,

but what was new about it is that I made it happen.

Right, as opposed to somebody else making it happen.

And so my next question to myself was,

okay,

what does it mean to not go backwards and to hold this meaning that I could keep improving as opposed to what has been my experience? Keep going back into pain?

And secondly, can I improve my other conditions? And what else can I learn and understand?

And so over the next several weeks, I would just write. I actually was studying to be professional writer, journalist, you know, fiction writer, whatever I thought I was going to do, I wanted to write.

And so I was studying that at university,

and I,

you know, so it was natural for me to just journal and write and start to, you know, research and connect pieces together. I think that essentially, unless, you know, as a writer, you're a researcher, whatever writing you do,

you actually have to, you know, put pieces together and write it together.

Bring it together, I should say. And I was looking at all the pieces of the puzzle,

or trying to, at least, and how do they fit in? How does all of this fit into my actual experience and condition?

And so by the end of the three weeks, I didn't have back pain anymore. I never had it since. And this we're talking 25 years ago now,

I didn't have.

My psoriasis disappeared, and it never came back.

My anxiety and depression at the time that I was going through went right down to almost nothing.

And the digestive system took a long time to work on, I'm gonna say.

Reginald D: Right, exactly. Because you look at it like this. Like you were saying, a lot of times your mind and your body has to connect.

You know, your mind is saying one thing and your body's saying something else. It's hard for it to all come together.

A lot of times in life is, you know, I'll tell people it's kind of like mind over matter. Just kind of think it through and do the things that you think that.

Because once you understand,

I feel like,

you know, once you understand, you get your mind in a place that.

In a good place.

I think it helps with a lot of the illnesses.

You know, I hear a lot of stress brings on all these other illnesses,

you know, and then, like anxiety. When you eat your mind in the right place, then anxiety, you can pretty much handle that at the end of the day.

So, you know, you say that illness is rarely just physical in your experience. What deeper layers are often being overlooked?

Inna: Well, I feel like in a medical,

very materialistic Society,

pretty much everything is being overlooked. I mean, if you look up any disease, any disorder,

it's likely to show up, you know, and we ask, where did it start?

What's it from? Why?

And we ask medicine this. They'll usually say, we don't know.

And to me, that's just not good enough. That just doesn't make any sense. How can you not know? How can you treat something that you don't know?

So, like, how can we get healthy if you're treating it, but you have no idea how it actually came about?

And so to me,

from the beginning, you know, of my real, like, awakening and exploration, it was like, well,

who are we? What layers do we have? And you've mentioned your mind, for instance. So I think it does a lot of the time start with your mind.

You know, if we were to really look at any health condition,

including accidents,

any emotional conditions, we'd have to start to go back to the beginning of what was my perspective?

What is my perspective? And I've asked this question, let's say, because I know people say, well, accidents don't come into this. And it's like,

really?

Well, let's look at the fact of every person I'm going to say that I've spoken to, and this may not be the case for 100% because nothing is in life.

But every person that I ever spoken to had an accident. And my question was,

what were you thinking or feeling or experiencing before this accident?

Were you clear? Were you in your body? Were you grounded? Were you fully,

like, feeling good, or were you confused,

not quite there,

chaotic, thinking of million different things, worrying, stressing, anxious.

And I've never had a person say, I was really fully connected,

clear,

you know, everything was great. They usually said yes, within that week or month, there was a lot going on.

So to me, it's like nothing in, you know, in medicine looks at your life story,

trauma.

It's where at the beginning of the beginning of this,

again, we can generalize and say stress. But, like, what is this stress from? Where did it come from? What caused it?

How?

It's not the stress itself, because there's lots of people that thrive in stress.

It's how did that stress affect you in a way that you changed your perspective to something that hurts you,

and there's a part of you that stopped developing and growing.

That's the question which then allowed another aspect of you to take over. And usually not the good one, not the healthy aspect, you know, which is, again, if we look at anxiety, for instance,

and if we could break it down from that perspective. And we have thinking,

right? Most people that agree we have a thinking area in our body,

we have a feeling area. And most of us would say it's the heart or the solar plexus. We have gut feelings in our language. We feel through our heart. I don't think that this is, you know, anything.

We were me saying that. And then we have the will,

which is around our legs, around our kind of like,

let's call it hip area, where when we want to do something, we walk, we do it, right? We take action.

We're like, okay, thinking, feeling will,

right, do, doing.

So when somebody has anxiety or depression,

very often it's their feelings that actually take over the thinking and the will.

Because the thinking has become really, really focused on feeding negative,

deeply difficult emotions.

And then we act on it.

And so the thinking is the part of us that must be step one in most things,

right?

And we need to thinking is understanding.

I need to understand myself. I need to understand what caused it. And people sometimes will say, oh, often,

yeah, but it's not my fault. If somebody did something to me, how am I meant to remember it? And I have, you know, lots of answers to that. Firstly,

this is never about fault finding.

Healing, as opposed to curing is about going.

Let me recognize how I went from a healthy perspective to an unhealthy one.

How do I,

you know, and it became stuck the same way as my own body became stuck.

And how do we turn that around so that we start to have a much healthier perspective, which then means we can work with our emotions, we can work with our will, we can transform a whole experience internally of why something is happening or happen to us.

You know, and I don't want to take away from the fact that I also believe in healthy eating. You know, I believe that we are surrounded by chemicals and we need to detox and cleanse and be aware of things.

And we need to sleep better, we need to meditate and all of these different things that make you a healthier person.

But essentially we're talking about diseases.

What's not being looked at is literally anything in the medical profession besides calling something a name and giving you medication for it.

Reginald D: Yes, absolutely. I think it's much deeper than that.

Much deeper than that.

So, you know, your book is titled the Secret language of your body.

Can you tell us about your book? And what does that phrase really mean? And how can someone begin to listen to what their body is trying to communicate?

Inna: So my book is really about inviting People to understand themselves. I'm going to say, to recognize that your life and everything that happens in your life deeply,

deeply affects your body.

And that your body is kind of like,

even if we look at the nervous system,

is the organism that is connecting and checking for safety, checking for,

you know, is this healthy for me or not healthy? Is this okay? Should I enter into this environment? Should I not?

And that's why so many people have nervous system dysregulation.

Because the nervous system is like what's meant to teach you and give you information.

And because we are so dysregulated, we're so confused. And for me, it's about how do we bring you back each person back to their own body wisdom. And that if you have pain in your throat, you would ask the question yourself, not run to the doctor immediately.

But the question would be, what's my throat about? What does it do?

Oh, I use it to communicate and to speak to people.

Why do I have pain in my throat? Oh, I have it because somewhere in my life I am holding back and I'm afraid of speaking. Am I afraid of expressing something?

Well, let's unpack that.

Who is it with? Is it to do with relationships? Is it to do with patterns,

you know, that I've seen other people have in my family? Is it to do with childhood? I mean, you know, there's a potential deep exploration here.

If we're looking at. And we go,

I have heart disease. How many people have heart disease at the moment? It's absolute insanity.

What is the heart about? Well, let's look at it again. It's not woo woo to say heart is about intimacy.

We all say that my heart is in this relationship. Or, you know, that the heart is also in connection to our destiny or what we feel our destiny is. You know, we go, I love this.

Why do I love this? And they don't, oh, it's in my heart.

So my heart must have some kind of wisdom. Or we say, follow your heart. Well,

what, what are we following then? Unless we already realize that there is this wisdom in the heart.

So again, if people start to be educated and again, we're talking basic, basic, you know, education that, you know, somebody who's 10 years old can understand.

My heart is my feeling center. It's about relationships. It's where I feel love or rejection, hurt and fear or joy and pleasure a lot of the time in terms of connecting with other people.

So if my heart is breaking down, sure, I may need to change my diet.

You know, I'm all for it, eat healthy, right? But actually, it's a little bit deeper than that.

My heart is about my relationships, including one with myself. So if it's showing me something,

should I run to the doctor and suppress it or should I ask some questions around it? And again, I'm not saying for people never to go to the doctor. Like, if you need it, you need it, and if you can't, you know,

work with your own body, I totally get it. And if you're in pain, you may need it. But what I am saying to people is whether you go to the doctor or not,

there's still questions that you need to ask your body and that every part has wisdom and that every part is asking you to pay attention to your life.

How would we know if we're living our life in alignment or not if we didn't have feelings, if we didn't have our bodies, you know, telling us, oh, this doesn't feel good, like pain in the neck.

We already know. We say this, oh, this person's a real pain in the neck, right? So we know it's relationship related.

And that's exactly what I did with my book. I went,

I'm gonna break things down, right, for people.

I'm gonna start with the section of kind of aspects of ourselves. Do we have visual,

auditory,

touch, kinesthetic? Right? We have all these different aspects of ourselves.

What if we use those aspects to one tune into our bodies, ask questions,

discover things in terms of our mind so we could understand and then change them.

And you know, I wrote about why I put together particular structures, let's say processes to help people to change and why. I think that even though I've written a guide, you should start with asking your own body questions before you go to all the sections where I've written about it.

But of course, most people skip those sections,

that section, because we skip steps in our lives all the time. We would just want the answer, the result,

you know. And so the ideal scenario is people actually read it from the beginning.

And then I wrote about a section on all the body parts, like I'm speaking about right now, because I want people to understand basic universal wisdom,

right?

That every part of the body has a function. It does something,

right? It's not there for no reason. It's not like we don't have a body that is just like made up of things that are necessary. Even if medicine tells us at times, oh, don't worry, you can take this part out and it doesn't do much.

That's not the truth.

So to me, it's illogical to have things in the body that you don't need,

except maybe wisdom teeth, you know, or something like that,

you know, but essentially there's, you know, every part of the body is giving us something,

some wisdom, some insight because it has a function.

And what I was looking at is if we understood the function, maybe we would understand how it works in terms of our actual lifestyle and life and our connections with other people and the fact that we are so, so influenced by relationships.

Our health is very often a reflection of who's been around us and who we've been around and how we communicate with them and what's,

what happened.

And when we break the body down, and I've spent 25 years on it, you know, so the medical doctors have their seven year foundation and then, you know, they specialize.

Like, I still think that I know not that much compared to what there is to know because the body is so beautifully deep and complex.

It tells us timelines.

So every organ and its development is connected to a timeline in your life that if you understood and really studied, it could actually explain to you when it's most likely started because that organ was in its state of development.

And people think, oh no, everything develops in the worm. Come on, like,

seriously, how would we grow even? You know,

whereas, you know, what I look at is at least the first 21 years of development and really longer, but.

And how they're stored in different parts of a body,

really more like 28.

And how we then recycle and go through things that have happened in, let's say,

let's say, you know, those 28 years.

And again, I'm being very general because it's, it's a lot more than that.

But most of the issues are, you know, they're that show up, that get seated earlier on and then they show up later in life in, you know, bigger and bigger ways.

Unless, and I always say this, unless you take a lot of toxins in, including poisonous substances which,

you know, have labels on them that says if you take this, these are side effects of it.

So, you know,

then things become a lot faster than they would be through just life experience.

But we need to look at everything when we look at healing.

And that's essentially what I tried to do in my book. I was like,

you know, here's a section on understanding. Here's a section on,

here's what all the parts of the body are there to teach you based on their functionality.

And also all the stuff that I've learned that is hidden and you, you've got to study to learn it.

And then I looked at diseases and I was like, well, this is what causes your body to break down in this way. And it was absolutely based on the fact that after I healed myself and was able to see into my back,

I could see into other people and you know, the same way that I did with myself. And so I would take a lot of notes and sometimes people even say to me,

there are things missing in the book. There's diseases missing. And it's like, yes, they're missing because I wasn't working with those people.

I didn't have those,

you know, like clients. And so I didn't put things in that I knew nothing about.

You know, I put things in that was very obvious and clear to me from the people that I was seeing at the time,

you know, and that over and over again. And that made complete logical sense to me. And I didn't look at things which didn't make sense to me at the time.

And the book is big enough, you know, from just those.

And you know, so I did that and then I looked at a section around emotions because I actually understood that most people are uncomfortable with emotions. They're hazy, they would rather have their teeth pulled than have to feel the emotions.

Especially things that I difficult, like grief and sadness and rejection and shame. You know, no one wants to feel those emotions and so they suppress them. And I was like, well, I want people to also understand how emotions get created and how we can start to work with them rather than trying to push them away.

How do we gain wisdom from them and start to see them as.

This is one of the ways my inner system talks to me. I feel good or I feel bad,

right? I feel happy, I feel sad.

There's something to it. And that we shouldn't just run to the doctor and go, I have bad feelings. I don't like these feelings. Let's ignore them, numb them, push them away.

Because I only want good feelings, which is what our society has become in lots of ways. It's like, I only want to feel one way, I only want to feel good.

But it's like if you don't have grief, you'll never have compassion,

you'll never go deep enough, you'll never connect to yourself enough,

right? You'll just say a surface based person that only wants things their own way if you don't like. There's so many reasons for these challenging emotions and people need to understand that.

The same with Anger. A lot of men experience anger, and they don't know what to do with it because they told men, anger, bad. You're bad if you have anger.

And it's like, well, men. If men don't experience anger, they'll experience depression. It's one or the other or both,

right? Because anger is part of actually one. There's layers to it, but it's also a way of knowing if I need to protect somebody,

right? If I need to look after somebody, including myself.

Like, we've had this from the beginning of man.

It's like where we were, you know, hunters and gatherers, so to speak.

But because people are terrified of anything that is not compartmentalized, basically, like, oh, this is safe. This is okay. We just go, don't like this. Push away. Don't like this.

And we wonder why we have so much mental illness. Like, it's insane the amount of mental illness that is there, because we don't understand and don't want to understand emotions in that way,

and the thoughts that feed those emotions and what actually happened. And then.

So I wrote about this, and then I wrote about the systems of the body and together what they're actually telling us and how we can learn from them.

And essentially where I could, which is with all the parts of the body,

I put in processes that give people a structure to ask questions, to explore,

to use their own body through, you know, everything from breath,

pressure points, movement,

visualization,

whatever abilities I felt like we naturally have that we can do on our own. And the amounts of people that have told me that they've used my book to heal themselves is literally incredibly insane.

I had no clue when I wrote it that this would be, you know, the case, including countless. Countless people who've gone through cancer have come to me and said,

I would not be alive right now if I did not have your book.

If I had your book with me in the hospital.

And this is. I mean, my partner went to a homeopathy not that long ago, and she said, oh, my God, I have her book. It saved my life from, you know, I had cancer.

Telling me he went to a hotel the other day because he was doing something in a different city to. To me. And the minute he walked in and the woman looked at his details and she said, oh, do you know Ina?

And he's like, yeah, she's my one.

And she said, oh, I love her book. I've used it. It's in my Bible. I have it, you know, next to me.

And it's that thing of when people finally create a relationship with themselves,

which is what my work is really about,

then they have choice. I'm going to say they have choice to start to make changes.

Reginald D: Yeah, absolutely. I always say that you have to have a relationship with yourself first and understand yourself or to be able to move forward.

So, Inna, after decades of healing work,

what have you learned about the relationship between self compassion,

timing and lasting transformation?

Inna: I love this question.

I think self compassion is daily because I think that as much as we may know what's good and right and so on,

we're a work in progress as opposed to what we want to be, which is perfection.

And as my partner always says, perfection is the enemy of creation. It's like we constantly need to have self compassion for ourselves. And the fact that even if we think we've made the right decision,

we still have challenges that show up.

And those challenges might be things we know and aware of.

Or these challenges may come from, you know, the side, so to speak. And we're like,

oh my God, I've just been taken aback and I've reverted back to.

To behaving or being how I don't want to be and how I don't like being.

And now I've got to forgive myself.

I actually think forgiveness is not really about other people. I think forgiveness is about you forgiving yourself. And this is where the compassion lies. And in terms of our journey,

did I answer the full question? Because I know there was several.

Reginald D: Yeah. And then, you know, like lasting transformation, you know, once you transform yourself, you know, you gotta sustain it.

Inna: Well, exactly. And I think that when people think again,

lasting, they think,

oh, I've done it a few times, it should be lasting now. Because I understand as you see all these people messaging me at the beginning constantly and saying,

I've done the processes from the book twice and I don't see a result. And I was like,

where did I write? Can you show me the section in the book where I said to do it twice and that's enough?

You know, it's like lasting.

Lasting actually means that you have now your whole body being system now works in a way where a challenge, you know, arises and you deal with it in the very best way possible because your nervous system's aligned, you're aligned,

you know,

you have the tools to deal with it. And that's what's lasting, is a lifestyle. It's how you live.

It's not lasting because you've done it five times and now you don't have to worry about it ever Again.

And I think that, you know, if we can come back for a minute to weaknesses in the body that don't just go quickly, right? Like, you know, my digestive system, I still have to be quick, constantly conscious of it.

I cannot drink milk without having a result,

like a response from my body.

No matter how much I've done on it. It's like, no, this is not healthy for you, this is not good.

And for me it's like, okay.

So on a daily basis I need to be aware of two things. One, what I put into my mouth,

you know, it's not lasting. It's like lasting means I have to be conscious of it.

And number two,

what's happening in my life today that I may need to learn from and process because that's what digestive system is about.

So lasting change is that it's not, I've done it and I never have to look at it again.

Reginald D: Yeah, and you hit the nail right on the head. You know, everything you do and success, your life, your body or whatever you're trying to transform,

it's a lifestyle. It's not something you can do for five days and stop and pick it up, you know, six months later.

It'll never transform,

you know, it'll never transform. So you hit it right on the head.

So if you could leave our listeners with one message about their body, their pain and their potential to heal,

what do you most want them to understand today?

Inna: You've got to make an effort that it's not going to happen with you wanting someone else to do it for you. Because at the end of the day,

I say this to people. I can tune into you, I can tell you all the things that are going on and why. And that could be very helpful because it can pinpoint things in terms of what to do.

But I will never ever know you or understand you or understand how you fully experience something inside of yourself only you can.

Thus, whatever I do to help you will not hold unless you do it right, unless you're the one who's doing it. And that's why, you know, up for the first ten years of me knowing this, I made a lot of one on one work and a little bit of teaching and then I just had this real depth of realization that,

you know, if I'm to make a difference, and I do want to, and I feel that that's part of my destiny to make a difference, then I cannot just teach, you know, and help people one on one.

I have to.

For me. And again, everyone's destiny is different.

I have to actually empower people to heal themselves.

And so from writing my book the Secret Language of youf Body,

to essentially and many others, you know, books and other things that I've written and done to teaching,

you know, that's been my focus. And for those people who go,

this is interesting and curious, I do want to understand more about what Ina does.

I would say step one is making the decision that you're worthy to take the time to learn and discover without it, you will never, ever fully heal or hold it,

because it will always be this thing. I've got to run to somebody else. Oh, my back's out. Oh, my knee hurts. Oh, they know. It's like, yes, you can get help, but no one can do it like you.

And this is why original. I decided at this point, and it may change because,

you know, it's been quite an investment into doing this.

I created several masterclasses, and they're kind of like mini workshops, and I've decided to give them to people for free because I actually just want to take the excuse out of it.

And it's a beginning of exploring,

including with my own guidance, where I guide you through several processes of whether the masterclass to deal with the secret language of your body, of how to waken the body, because you can't actually even get into the body without a awakening it, without moving it.

And so I go through that process,

and then, you know, how do we connect and listen to the bodies? But then there are people who are, you know, who know this and are advanced on that path, and they go, you know what?

I want to go deeper. I want to understand archetypes and emotions in a deeper way and timelines and how my body really works from, you know, the energetic perspective.

And I have a masterclass on this, and then I have one on the soul journey and purpose and what that means and how so many of us have lost our own capacity to feel and know and build that purpose.

And, you know, then we have all sorts of challenges around,

you know,

ourselves from the perspective of childhood and the fact that our childhood creates a foundation for who we become as people.

And there are many stages of development that people have no idea about that actually causes you to become stuck and have a lot of struggle in your life.

And so, again, I go through those types of things as well, and they're not all in one. I'm gonna say there's variety,

you know, and my website, innaseagal.com you have all the opportunity to explore.

But unless you Make a decision and say,

I'm worth it,

I need to learn. I need to know why I have what I have. Instead of being okay with the answer of we don't know and just take medication that potentially has side effects of death,

then I really,

you know,

encourage people to go,

I'm going to learn about it through thinking. I'm going to feel into it as I go through these master classes and then I'm going to take action of changing my life.

Reginald D: Yeah, exactly. And that makes a lot of sense because at the end of the day, when you cherish something, you'll put more energy into it.

You know, it's just like a vehicle. Some guys love that certain car. They're going to make sure it's okay. They're going to make sure it was taken care of or anything like that, you know, so that's very true.

I think it all starts with the mind.

I think what you're doing is great work,

great work.

So in a. Lastly, how can my listeners follow you or purchase your books?

Inna: So in terms of books, because people are everywhere, firstly, I'm going to encourage you to go to your bookshelf because we are at a time where bookshops are dying out. And, you know, I really, really want people to support their local bookshops.

And all you have to do is go there and ask them to order it. That's the ideal way. Because then, you know, everyone gets supported because authors rely on bookshops.

Right.

Alternatively, you can find it online. It's everywhere.

And I know it's easier, but it's wherever you're at. I'm gonna say,

I have more than one book. Again, I really encourage you to Google and. Or look me up and see all the different books that I've written.

And I'm working on a new one at present,

but a lot can be found on my website, which is again, Inna Segal, I double I N N A S E G A L dot com.

Reginald D: There you have it in a Inna Segal. Thank you so much. I really enjoyed it today,

man. You gave me a lot of insight. Now I got to go start searching some stuff.

Yeah, it's good. It's really good. That's really good. So I really thank you for taking the time out and I'm pretty sure this is going to be impactful to the people who listen to this.

You know, I really, really am grateful for the work you do and helping people become who they need to be who they should be through their own power and through their own energy.

Inna: Thank you.

Reginald D: Thank you.

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