Ep 513 Scream 7 Spoiler Review

In this episode the FilmBros discuss Scream 7 

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

What up, everybody? I'm your host, JP, and this is my co-host Josh.

SPEAKER_00 0:03

Everybody.

SPEAKER_01 0:04

And welcome back to another episode of the Film Bros Podcast. All right, Josh. So today we do have a movie review. And yes, we are going to kind of follow that structure of this movie review today. And I say kind of, Josh, because you need to understand, all right? I'm not only furious, I'm upset, I am perturbed, I am so many emotions that, you know, I don't even think I could sit through a full movie review structure with you today. Today's gonna be just a full-blown rant, okay? It's gonna be a full-blown rant. The good, the bad, the ugly, and we're gonna talk about possibly what we you know what's our best part about this movie, which got to I could think I could speak for the both of us. Few and far in between, right? Am I right? For a movie that, you know, it's supposed to be horror. You know, we've already been through so many installments, and here we are at the end point. But obviously, there's a lot of stuff that happened behind the scenes that we're gonna have to kind of discuss and add a little bit of context. I just, you know, I'm I'm gonna be very passionate today. I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna be a I'm gonna be a passionate reviewer today, and we're just gonna go ahead and go on this spiel. Josh, let them know what we're talking about today so we can go ahead and get your side and get into the nitty-gritty of this review.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

We're talking about Scream 7, 2026.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Yes, Scream 7. We like I said, we've been through a plethora of screams, all right, from what a lot of people would assume is the worst, scream three and to what everybody thought was the best. I mean, you can argue maybe scream one, you can maybe argue scream four, it just depends on when uh what era you were born, but I believe those were kind of like the top two for a good chunk of time. We're gonna have to give a full uh scream ranking one of these days, probably possibly around Halloween time. So if you guys want to hear that, let us know. Uh Josh, you've watched this movie way before me, okay? And it's crazy for me to think that that actually happened because I was the one who was like scream, scream, scream, and you're like, no, no, no. I I refuse to scream, right? I refuse. Yeah, you refused. And then eventually Scream 5 came around and really picked you up. Scream 6 came around and really picked you up. And I, you know, for one was very proud of that. And then you told me a couple months ago after you left the theater, because you did what, like I said, you watched this movie away a long away before me. You're kind of sorely disappointed. So it gave me a little bit of time to reflect and think like, hey, do I really want to walk into this one? Am I gonna, you know, it's kind of like that thing where it's like, hey, I'm gonna just not ruin my relationship right now. You know, I know what's gonna happen as soon as we get to that conversation, right? Scream seven, the conversation. But I don't want to break up yet. I want to still remember all the good times, right? And I finally got around to it. And, you know, me being me, being excited for this franchise. I gotta be honest, man. That's a no for me dog. I gotta be honest, it's a no for me dog. And I uh I'm kind of saying this a little early, and that's okay. Uh, spoilers up ahead for everybody. Um, this, like I said, we are gonna go through some rant, uh, but we're we're gonna be cutting, we're cutting the shit. We're gonna get straight to it because this is a movie that not only had a lot of drama behind the scenes, it was supposed to be boycotted. It didn't seem like it worked really. A lot of people still went to go watch the movie, but it was supposed to be boycotted and all that stuff. Josh, three months ago, you were gonna you went to go watch this movie. How did you feel about that? I know when I asked you to rewatch it for this episode, you were kind of like and you kind of exploded a little bit. Right. What how did you feel if you can remember the feeling of going into this movie? And then how do you feel when you had walked out of said movie?

SPEAKER_00 4:31

I remember being uh okay, I didn't have high expectations. I knew it was gonna be a shit show. But the fact that it was this bad, it kind of ruined everything to a certain extent. So I I mean I wasn't expecting much, and then when I left, it was like, whoa, that was worse than what I was what I thought could even, you know, happen.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

How do you destroy expectations that weren't there?

SPEAKER_00 4:53

Exactly. I didn't even have that shit, and they were just like, We're gonna surprise you.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

You thought you didn't bring it with you, but you you actually brought it with you. So walking out, you were a little disappointed. I remember you, I remember that disappointed phone call, and that's what basically drove me to wait a little bit. So uh thank you for that. For poisoning the well a little bit, but that's that's okay. You you know, you were trying to forewarn me. I gotta say, that's a that's a noble gesture, my dog. Gotta say, right? Um, but obviously, we're gonna we're gonna stop beating around the bush. We're gonna have to start digging into this because like I said, I do not want to be talking about this for a long period of time. Unfortunately, it's not worth my time. To be honest, if you guys want to watch it before you uh get into all this, go ahead and watch it. But if you don't feel like you want to wait, go ahead and stick around for the spoiler review. Josh, 30% on the tomato meter, 74% on the popcorn meter, fall from grace, okay, because um scream five really did um a number on it on Scream's reputation, really brought the franchise back up to a sky high after years of being on a hiatus. Like I said, scream four was pretty much loved as it was a cult classic, but a lot of people kind of skipped it because of Scream 3, right? Uh Scream 2 as well. Scream 4 came out, people loved it, but it just wasn't looked at. We wound up getting Scream 5, came out with a 76% on the tomato meter, and then Scream 6 wound up coming coming out around 77 certified fresh on the tomato meter, and then we get to Scream 7 with that 30. Audiences seem to still love it with that 74. So, I mean, do we agree, disagree? I I gotta say, who is in the popcorn side? I gotta, I gotta know. I gotta just meet them at the end.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

That's what I'm saying. Exactly. I don't understand that shit either. 30 sounds generous, 74% is fucking way too like positive for me. I can't do it. I thought it would be so much lower for both of them. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Um, one thing that I did kind of encounter, and I gotta be honest too with this film, is that maybe it's one of those films that you would even say, like, if you turn your brain off, it's kind of like uh, you know, it's just kind of like a fun movie or whatever, right? Can you kind of feel that with with like Scream 7 where you know if you kind of turn your brain off, you can kind of skip five and six and kind of just go from well, maybe just six, maybe continue from five with Need Campbell and move on to Scream 7.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Nah, man. I don't think so. I don't think you can get there with these with this one at least.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

No, no, this isn't one of those. Okay, I was kind of curious because I was like, I wonder if you could kind of look at it, look at it that way. Maybe think about it a little bit. Then I'm trying to think if there's any screw strings attached that can kind of stop that, but yeah, yeah, here we are. Um, so yeah, I I gotta say that I don't agree with this either. Like I said, 74% popcorn meter. That's kind of weird. 30% on the tomato meter. Critics railed the shit out of this movie. I gotta say, it gotta be the lowest scored screen movie. Yeah, it is the lowest scored screen movie as of right now. Um Yippee. Uh Scream 7, it was directed by Kevin Williamson. Now, if you know him, he is the other half of Wes Craven. He is the original writer for Scream 1. Obviously, Wes Craven was the the director of the first, I believe, two films, and then he walked out on the third one, came back for the fourth, and then he wound up passing away and whatnot. Um, I believe he did he direct the fifth one? I think he was alive to direct the fifth one.

SPEAKER_00 8:31

Um, no, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 8:35

Uh let me just double check. No, he did not. So yeah, he was already passed away by the fifth one. Um, but he did direct the fourth one, which is great. And I believe he passed away shortly after that one. And yeah, we got a different director for Scream 5, different director for Scream 7, which uh radio uh what was it? It was the production company Radio Radiohead or something like that, right? Yeah, um he wound up walking out when Melissa Barrera walked out. Obviously, that was like a big thing when it came down to Scream 7, was that there was a huge pivot, right? And that's what I mean. Where, you know, if you turn your brain off, maybe you could connect five to seven. Um, but I'm not 100% sure about that one. Uh Scream 6, Neve Campbell was kind of absent, completely absent, because she did not get her bag that she was asking for, wound up coming back around for Scream 7 after you know Paramount was basically back against the wall. And hey, we needed somebody. We needed somebody, right? Um, so Neve Campbell wound up coming back. Like I said, Kevin Williamson did direct this uh film as well, the other half of Wes Craven. He was the original writer, he'd been doing the writing for different screen movies ever since, and now he decided to direct. I gotta be honest here though, you know, you could tell that this was like a a power couple kind of thing. Am I saying uh am I saying that right? You know, uh Wes Craven was the other half of that. Um, when Wes Craven passed away, the person that basically breathed life into the Scream franchise with their you know direction and everything was Matt Batanelli uh open and Tyler Gillette, which was, like I said, the the two directors that basically uh got Scream 5 and Scream 6 off the ground. And they decided that they were not coming back because you know the story was incomplete. Melissa Barrera is not gonna come back, Jennifer Ortega wasn't coming back, nobody was coming back, so except for two people, and we'll talk about that in a little bit as well. Um, so that is uh a little bit of the T in the background. We'll probably go down a little bit more as we continue down this road. Like I said, Neve Campbell comes back as Sidney Prescott, or not Sydney Prescott, Sidney Evans, because she is married and has a child in this film. Courtney Cox as Gail Weathers, Elizabeth May as Tatum Evans, Jasmine Savoy Brown, the scab, as Mindy Meeks Martin, Mason Gooding, the other scab as Chad Meeks Martin, um Anna Camp as Jessica Bowden, Celeste O'Connor as Chloe Parker, Asa German as Lucas Bowden, and you know, McKenna Grace as Hannah Thurman, and last but not least, definitely not least, Matthew Lillard as Stu Mocker. Um, and that's gonna be a big, not really a big reveal in the movie because they immediately start talking about it as soon as the movie starts. Josh, let's talk about a little bit of what this movie's about, and then let's go ahead and start jumping into what we need to start talking about.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

Okay, okay. Let me see, let me see. Scary Scream 7. Scary movie six. I meant to say scream. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I I know, I know, I know.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

I gotta ask, okay, wait, wait, wait. Before you go to the rundown, I mean Scream 7, you did watch Scary Movie 6. Uh, what it's not a scary movie six review, but did this movie not help with the parody jokes and whatnot? Like, I've noticed it really fed into that for sure.

SPEAKER_00 11:54

Yeah, no, it really did. It parodied the fuck out of these last two. So anyway, Scream 7 takes place a couple years after the events of Scream 6. No Campbell in that one, but we do get the twins back. Some new killer, Ghostface Killer, is taking over pretending to be Stu, which is something we've never really heard before. We get a kill in the beginning that has nothing really to do with the story. The killers are are trying to again become rewrite the story, become the killers themselves. We get an un very unsatisfying twist by the end of it. They're after Neve can or Sydney and her daughter. They're basically their whole family. A couple interesting kills with in the middle. You get unanswered questions about the twins and where they were from six. It's kind of a mess. But that's the best way to sum up Scrum 7.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

What a mess, indeed. What a mess indeed. Um so yeah, we're we're gonna run through this as as quick as possible. Josh characters. Obviously, you gotta love Henry Campbell, you gotta love Courtney Cox. Um Elizabeth May. I've heard great things about her. Um when I heard that she was joining the cast, I was very excited to see what she got. I heard she was in that one show, 18 something. Um, and I heard that it was I heard she was really good in that movie. Um that movie, the TV show, and let's just be honest, unfortunately, she did not she was not able to flex those chops for us within this movie. Um unfortunately, I think that's more of a character problem than an acting problem. I mean, you can't really give much on a script that wasn't giving you really any besides you know, a nostalgia bait every single time, am I right? Um like I said, Mason Gooding, Jasmine and Savoy Brown, Mindy and Chad, the scabs of the crew. Listen, let me tell you, you shouldn't have came back if they weren't gonna do shit with your character, which they didn't, and they didn't really care. And they to be honest, they didn't care so much that they kind of just impl like they planted them in just a random spot just so they could be like a part of the story. Um Anna Camp, I you know, if you've seen her in Pitch Perfect, you know that she can act. I mean, I've seen her in all three. Don't ask me why I've seen all three pitch perfect because I don't want to talk about it. I gotta take it for a long way round. Okay, okay, okay. Um she could have possibly done something great and that just out the window. Joel McHale as Mark Evans, him coming in for uh Patrick Damsey's spot basically, uh he came out with a story as well where like he literally went on set and I guess Patrick Damsey couldn't not or did not want to return. I think he was asking for more money or something and did not return. He wound up taking that spot of you know the husband. So I think that's a little funny that you know Paramount was basically baking to the very end for Patrick Damsey to basically uh reprise his role as uh uh Sidney Prescott's husband. And yeah, the uh one person that I was like a little wasted, two people, McKenna Grace, because she was amazing in FNAF too. I thought, hey, you know, as a horror person, she could really do something with that, right? And Lucas, or I said German, and he was in um he was in the boys spin-off, right? And he was also a little bit in the boys for uh for like the ending finale in season four. Not not much time, let's just be honest. Um, and you know, as soon as that casting came out, everybody was like, he's the bad guy. He's the he's gonna be the bad guy, he's he's not the one or whatever. And you know, I think this movie picked up a lot of that's one thing. Uh with the other scream movies, it felt like there was like a roster of like randoms, you know, that basically uh fill up the slots of the other uh, you know, Scream One, you know, the nerd, the TV nerd, you have the the strong jock, you have the suspicious one, you have like different characters, right? This one it seemed like they were all planted there to basically be like, hey, we're possibly the killer. And like it they didn't even try to blend it in as well as you know the other movies as as you know has done before them. So I thought that was pretty interesting. But that was basically my take on what these characters basically um had. I mean, they really didn't bring much to the table because they didn't have much to bring to the table, unfortunately. Josh, what do you think about all these characters?

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Yeah, no, man. I don't think any of them should really shined out, you know what I mean? Like from the acting to the story, nothing really intrigued me to where I was like, damn, I want to see them again. I'm tired of Sydney. I think she should have passed a baton on a long time ago. She should probably pass the baton on to her daughter and you know, have their adventures or whatever. But yeah, I don't know. I was just wasn't everybody in this in this movie, I wasn't really feeling. Even crazy, crazy enough, fucking um we'll uh will fucking Stu. Dude that played Stu. I uh even though they announced the fuck out of him, I just still wasn't interested. It sucks.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Well, when I heard that whole rumor of like, you know, Stu coming back, Matthew Lillard reprising his role and all that stuff. For me, it you know, Neve Campbell coming back, you know, Stu, I was like, look, man, they're they're basically trying to somebody was on Reddit, saw the rumors of, you know, oh you can Stu be alive or whatever, and they really were like, hey, you know what, we're just gonna make a movie about this. We're gonna go ahead and start something like this. Um and it just didn't work out. Um this movie really felt like they were kind of making it up as they go along. And every single time, you know, as they make it up as as they went along, they were like, hey, we kind of we kind of hit a wall here. What do we do? Oh, throw in nostalgia. Everybody's obviously gonna love nostalgia. You don't Cindy Press off's jacket from the second movie gave that shit to her daughter. She's oh, we're obviously all gonna remember that shit, are we not? Are we not gonna all remember that? That's not that's not you know, you don't remember Neve Campbell's jacket in Scream 2? No, no, that's not what your focus was when you were watching that movie. No, oh my bad. I gotta say, who cares? Uh Celeste O'Connor has not caught a break in two bad movies back to back. If you remember where she was in while you were watching the movie, last time you saw Celeste O'Connor, she was in Madame Webb. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:36

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:39

Dog shit movie. She just decided to double down on the dog shittery. It's crazy. Um I gotta put these ones together. Uh obviously the world building and the plot is gonna basically coexist because there was none for either, right? Uh we stuck her, we stuck Neil Campbell into the scream world, but did not stick her into that world. Exactly what you said in the beginning of this uh review was that we get a scene in the beginning of the movie that feels completely disjointed from the rest of the film. Look, you make a movie where you you your first thought is obviously hey, we're gonna have to start it off with a big bang. And you know, obviously you you say, Hey, we're gonna have to do a killing inside of the the original house to kind of kick this off. Fine. But then you remember that Neve is not even in that city anymore. She's not been in that city for a long time. So why would anybody go to a house and burn it? Why? So the news can cover it and be like, oh, it's still why would she care that that house got burned down?

SPEAKER_00 19:50

Yeah, no, she wouldn't. That's the problem. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's the that's my ex boyfriend's killer's house. They both try to murder me in it. Why? Why would she care? Why would she give two bucks?

SPEAKER_01 20:02

Why wouldn't she just be doing a dance like, oh my god, it's finally gone?

SPEAKER_00 20:06

Exactly. She'd be temp dancing all over the soil. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 20:11

Like I said, so that kind of leads into like the no plot, the no world building, right? Um, you go into a d completely different city, uh you get a whole new cast, you get uh a vague relationship between you know Neve Campbell and her best friend, who is uh apparently her neighbor. You get nothing out of this film, there's there's completely nothing to the plot, unfortunately. Like that they want you to be like, oh, there's a killer, and then they completely do him in relatively quickly. The first time I've ever seen a ghost face is they get done in by a car, let's just be honest. Um, and that was only to basically introduce you know uh uh Corney Cox's character back into the movie and then kind of add these two uh other scabs in there as well. Yeah. You get to the end of it, even with the moment of like oh realization that hey there's AI and everything, like there's no explanation. There was a realization, but there's no explanation by the end of it for why everything was happening, and that's why I gotta give the plot a zero when it comes to this one. It literally feels like they they were making it up as they go along.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

Obviously, they were trying to they were trying to bring back and rewrite things or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

But no, they weren't bringing back and rewrite nothing. Everything that I heard was all nostalgia bait. Everything that they said was either lines from the original scream and from other music heard before.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

That's obviously a problem, right? You know, trying to bring back everybody from scream one through four. Not even. They stopped it like one through three and then skip seemed to skip four, and then they fucking just jumped to to show uh um what's his name? Uh Dewey's Death. And then that's it. They didn't even show the killers from four. When they were doing the AI video, now that I'm thinking about it?

SPEAKER_01 22:04

No, they they went to they they skipped forward completely because Yeah, they just get Julia Roberts to come back.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

They're not, exactly. But so okay. So random killers, not tied to anything that's that Sydney was talking about or doing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

And this film really made it a point to parody that. I gotta be honest. This film really made it a point to parody that.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

And it's so dumb because it just doesn't make any sense. No ties to nothing. They just randomly decided to use Matthew Lizard to like gas his movie up for no fucking reason. He had like no significance outside of being AI and phoning in his actual like performance.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

If they would have played on this since the beginning, like oh Stumarker's in the background this whole time, like he could possibly be, but he possibly isn't. You know what I mean? If they would have been doing that since like Scream shit, you could have even gone away with it if you started it in Scream 6. You know what I'm saying? Like you, if you would have started it a couple movies down, like that would have been like a good cop-out. Like that could have been like a good plan B if you were really thinking about it like a plan B option. But they they they said, hey, we we need a plan B, and they just decided to just throw money at it. And you know, Scream 5 to Scream 6 took a year, it got greenlit immediately and basically went into production. After Scream 6, same thing basically happened, but the sag strike wound up hitting it as well and caused it to kind of be delayed a little bit there. Obviously, with the statements that Melissa Barrera said and everything, it wound up delaying it even more because we lost the cast, and then we wound up you know building it back up as time went on. So they basically had a year to make this movie from scratch after you know basically missing out. And if you thought you were gonna get a continuation from six, you're not. We're pivoting. We pivoted so hard that the movie doesn't know what it's doing at this point. Um, fight scenes, killing. How did how do we think about the murder scenes? I gotta be real. The best part of the movie, honestly, I I like the beginning. Um, I like the the scene where you know the knife goes through the head and the eyeballs are you know going all over the place. Um, I like that homeboy just he could have killed Homegirl in the beginning, but he said, hey, hell no, I'm gonna light her up. I'm gonna light her up. I thought that was pretty sick. Um, I thought it was hilarious, and even more hilarious in the context that there was a woman behind that ghost mask, and that was kind of like her son as well. That you know, they he got basically beer tapped, which is insane. Um, so I mean the the killing at least in this movie was good. I gotta say the action and uh when it comes down to like the chase scenes with ghost face and everything, even though a couple of times you know every screen movie has that whole like bumbling ghost face type shit where like he, you know, he's trips on nothing and all that stuff, but a little a little bit more in this movie. They had just a little bit more, like in the scream 5 and scream 6, they kind of minimize that for the most part. Like they did their best to make sure that it wasn't like a like a jokey thing, but this one oh my god, he had a lot of yabba dabba-doo moments, let's be honest. What'd you think about the killing and all that?

SPEAKER_00 25:13

I'm I mean the dude, the kills, I feel like we've gotten better ones throughout the this whole like little saga of theirs. Just to say that these were pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

I mean, McKenna's uh was pretty good too. The the guts hitting the floor and you know her getting cut up like by thousand cuts as she's floating around, that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

Right, right, right. If I had to pick one, my favorite was probably that one, the beard tap one, that because I think that's the only memorable one outside of the other one, which is the fucking ballerina stuff, or no, the play, her swinging from the play string or whatever. But other than that, dude, I thought they were kind of boring. I thought they were kind of whack. I was like, damn, I don't think anything will tap for me anyway. I don't think anything will tap ghostface like point blank at someone with a shotgun. Yeah, I don't think I'll ever. Yeah, but I thought that was creative. I thought it was fun, and like it's only a one-and-done thing. He doesn't spend the whole time like that. It was just as creative as fucking Gail Weathers running someone over, bro. Come on now.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Uh-uh. In Scream 6, she was doing she was putting in work with that deagle.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

Oh, that's true. Yeah, but yeah, exactly. So she's she's doing way more damage than Sydney. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

In in the last movie, in this movie, oh well, yeah. She basically did a lot of damage in this one, I think, too. Right? Um I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

I think the kills are pretty average. That's the way I feel about them.

SPEAKER_01 26:48

Average but creative, I think. The blood, the gore was there. I gotta be honest. Now, one thing I just did not like Mason Gooding's character being like I'm I'm not feel I don't feel like getting stabbed tonight, and dude gets stabbed one time and gets put on his ass.

unknown 27:05

Right.

SPEAKER_01 27:06

A lot of that happened. I had asked you, but did I mean I didn't go back to overlook, but did we know what happened to those characters? Did you did you research in it? Yeah, what what happened? They just got stabbed and left there at the end of it?

SPEAKER_00 27:17

No, they well, they come out at the end, and Gail's like, I'll get 12 for this. You guys need to take over.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Oh, that's right. I remember that. Okay. That's right. But it was She's like, I'm getting too old.

SPEAKER_00 27:28

See on the sequel. Right. Yeah, it was like right at the end. Bro comes out with his arm stitched up, and the girl comes out all okay because of her stomach. How how I think he should have died in six, obviously, because he got fucking like double tapped 12 different times in the movie before, and one in the shoulder basically puts you on your ass. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. Football linebacker type shit in college, but he can't just do any of that stuff. I don't know. I don't know, dude.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

I'm just saying he got double cut in Scream Six multiple times. He got stabbed at 25 times and survived that shit. You're not gonna you get stabbed one time and like after what you've been through, that's all that's that it takes. That's crazy. And then Ghostface didn't even go back to finish the job.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

Right. Right. What the fuck? But this girl had a personal vendetta against her fucking son, so she can fucking beer tap his ass for no reason.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

She can make sure that he's he's gone for sure.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

Right, right. Just in the most gruesome way possible, too. Like, ah, you remind me of your father.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

Right. Drink a lot. Let me put him on the beer tap real quick.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

It's crazy, man. It's crazy. They like these two I know are around to do that whole like, oh, it's a requel. We're we're here to get meta, whatever. But like I think without the other two to like make it organic and bounce off of them, it all feels forced. You know what I mean? It doesn't feel as like good.

SPEAKER_01 29:03

Oh, you know what? Bringing that up too, yeah, that was one thing too. Um, every movie has that scene where it's like, oh, you know, that you gotta know the rules to survive a horror movie, right? Like that's basically like every screen movie comes back.

SPEAKER_00 29:15

That's the shtick.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

Yeah, that's it comes compact with that scene. But that scene in this movie just felt like tacked on, like they needed to have it there. That's what I'm saying. Like everything felt like nostalgia bait more than like the story needed it to happen, if that makes sense. Like it just felt like, hey, they do this in every other movie, we need to put that in there. Neve Cavmill's coming back, we need to put that in there. You know, her daughter's gonna be there, we need to put that in there, you know? It's like I get it, but it just felt like it felt like we were doing scream one again without all that magic that Wes Craven basically poured in there. And yeah, half-baked. Yeah, like it was just a lot of that stuff, and I mean I get it because Kevin Williamson, like I said, he worked on the scream, you know, saga. He's been working on this since the very beginning. But like, like I said, if this is a two-man job, which it most clearly is, um, the best movies that were highly regarded came from a two-man job. Wes Craven, Kevin Williamson, and then even if you look back at Scream 5 and Scream 7 or Scream 5 and Scream 6, that's you know, the radio head production company, the Matt, uh Matt Bettellini Open and Tyler Gillette. Like them two, you know, they made magic again. So you could tell that this move these movies are basically uh a two-man job. Somebody who can basically do the visuals and the other person can do the writing and try to make it as compelling as possible. And when you have one man who has to tackle it all, it's unfortunate that you kind of trap yourself in that uh, oh, what did I do before? And what can I, you know, add on top of that, and everything like that. What one person that we didn't really talk about is Matthew Lillard, though. Like, how did we feel about him? You know, at least in the little scenes that we did get from him. I know we didn't get him in the flesh, and that's probably a disappointing part out of all of this. I think that was my disappointing part, but did he have the stew chops in the phone? Like, is you know what I mean? Like it literally a phoned-in performance, let's just be honest.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

Yeah, no, like they oh just hey record, Matthew, we'll be alright. Have your grandkids help you with this or some shit like that. I don't know, dude. I don't know what the fuck they were doing here. I would have preferred him in the flesh, that way we get a little bit more of an engaging kind of like performance, but I guess for what he was on the phone, man, he was fine. He was no big deal, you know.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

I gotta be honest, doing an AI plot and you using You know, they're not real people, it's AI. You can de-age them to look like how they looked when they passed away. You know what I'm saying? Like, why am I talking to an old Matthew Lillard when the last time we saw him he was young and youthful and all that stuff, you know what I mean? Same thing with the the mom and the I almost missed that. The mom and the second one, because I was like, I was like, what the like why does she like why is she so old? Who is this person talking to her? I was like, oh, that's the mom. But you know, she's already she's already old, so it's kind of hard to tell. The same thing with the the brother in the third in Scream 3, like we got that little glimpse. Dewey obviously looks older than what he did in Scream 5, and he passed away in Scream 5. So why wouldn't we try to de-age them to the point where they basically passed away? I would have at least made that little detail known, but they were just like, we ain't got either we ain't got the money or we ain't got the time, and that's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

They're just like, hey man, we're already like towards the end. We just gotta wrap it up. Like fucking kidding. And they were just like, We don't have time for any of this. You guys are all getting like one line each.

SPEAKER_01 32:45

Right. That is basically what happened. Everybody got shuffled through and got one line, and they basically showed up in front of a camera and was told to read said lines, and that's basically it. Um last stop, cinematography. The ugliest scene in the film to date. I would say nothing really creative in a lot of this the the scenes in this movie. Um I I think the perfect one, the per like the perfect two, I gotta say, when it came down to like lighting and like the tone of the of the film. It gotta be scream scream five and I'm I'm Scream Five and Six. I gotta put those two together and scream four. Those those are like probably the best like tone, coloring, lighting, everything together basically makes the film work. And I think with Scream 7 again, uh this either is uh did not have enough time or just did not care to to really dial in those that you know those little things.

SPEAKER_00 33:51

I don't know, man. I think I think they cared as much as they could, so much so that they were like, you know what? I don't think they care either. Here's enough to make a sequel, you know what I mean? Like that's kind of where we're at with this franchise. And it's unfortunate because we should demand more. Or better stuff anyway. I don't think this movie stuck out in anything outside of maybe one or two kills. Scream worthy anyway.

unknown 34:19

Right.

SPEAKER_00 34:20

I don't know. I I feel like I could just get the same enjoyment from it watching one, two, four, five, and six. You know what I mean? Like that's kinda Did you just skip three? I don't know what you're talking about. Uh what third one is?

SPEAKER_01 34:33

Did you just skip three?

SPEAKER_00 34:34

No, no, no. I said one, two, four, five, and six.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

Oh, okay, okay. I thought you skipped three for a second. I thought you I thought you skipped it for a I I feel like I missed it, but you correct me, thank you. Um but yeah, I unfortunate this probably, you know, spoiler for you know for our upcoming ranking, I guess, but you know, eventually we're we're gonna have to get to that point. Um, but yeah, Josh, final thoughts. One through ten, one being the worst, ten being the best, five being the middle. What do you think about Scream 7?

SPEAKER_00 35:07

Uh man, I was right not to rewatch this movie. I think getting the footnotes and it all c all coming back to me like a PTSD kind of dream where I wake up in a cold sweat and try to forget it all. Yeah. Yeah. I think trying to remember it like that really brings it all together. I don't think there's anything redeeming about this movie. I thought you're gonna hate me for it. I thought the third one would be the worst one, but this one might be the worst scream movie I've ever seen. This was ass. From A to S. Like from it was all bad, dude. All bad. I I mean I wouldn't even watch it again. I think the franchise for me ends at six. I dude, this isn't I gotta give it like two out of ten.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

Two. Holy shit. A two is crazy. A two is uh a two is kind of low, right? Um I have a soft spot for Scream Three, so I gotta give it a second before I, you know, before I jump through this computer and just choke you out. That's just basically it's a superpower now. Now that now that you unlocked it with the Scream 3 slander. Um Scream 7 was clearly a movie that did not need to be made. Or at least needed a lot more work done before getting made. Um I appreciate, like I said, the kills in this one because I you know what makes a great horror film is the kills, but you know it can only do so much, am I right? You can only do so much, it can only be so entertaining with the kills. I couldn't even I couldn't even like love the final kill of of Ghostface because it was just um one it was ridiculous that you know nobody hit a shot not one time in the what is it like an hour and a half runtime, but at the very last moment everybody can just hit every single shot on point uh multiple times, and you know, as the gag goes, like make sure you shoot him in the head. Well, it's like you dumped the whole you dumped multiple clips in the head. I'm pretty sure they're not getting the fuck back up. Like at this point, you you're look- you're you're doing this for fun. You're loving this shit. You're Melissa Barrera just in a different form. Like, it's not it's not okay. Um the characters, look, you're gonna get people that we know we love and give them nothing to do on screen. Oh, but we're so happy that Tatum got her mother's jacket.

SPEAKER_00 37:54

I love it. Right. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 37:55

I love that we got certain things like that. It was great. And I say that because I like for me, that was like the most ridiculous callback. That was the most ridiculous nostalgia bait that I've ever seen in my life because you know, or the MCU tries to give you Iron Man again, or the MCU tries to give you, you know, um, you know, we had some leaks recently, but like in a whole Avenger scene, like they're trying to give you that kind of nostalgia bait. We get a jacket, right? And we get people duped by uh animatronic, basically. We basically get a a watered down version of FNAF in the beginning of this movie, which is insane. Um by the end of it, I guess and it's unfortunate for me to say Scream 7, I got it. It's possibly gonna be my worst scream movie. I gotta do a double take on every single one, but it has to possibly be at the bottom of the totem pole. The only redeeming quality has to be the kills. Everything else is from the acting to the characters to the scabs that decided to sign back on after losing their whole cast. This film doesn't have nothing but uh I was gonna say three originally, but I gotta give it like a two as well. I can't give it any higher. Um, after hearing you say it and your piece and everything like that, hearing it from an impartial side, especially because I was gonna kind of walk in here and you know, white knight this movie hella hard. Um, but I just could not do it. I it was just it was one of those things where like I could not stand on this side and be like, this movie is great, it's not a great movie. There's a lot of that that is to be desired within this film that we just do not get. And if you're looking for a complete story with uh actual motivation and a a killer to match it, I say go watch scream five and six. Just go watch uh scream four. You know, even scream three has a cohesive plot to the killer, regardless of what you want to think. But like scream seven just does not have that, and it's unfortunate. But let us know what you guys think. Scream seven is on Paramount Plus right now if you guys want to check that out. It's no longer in theaters, so um, it still made a quite a bit of money, but we still have not heard anything for Scream 8 just yet. So maybe they're actually taking their time and going back to the drawing board after all the complaints and you know the YouTube videos, and we're about to add another one to that roster. Let us know what movies we should be talking about, topics that we should also be talking about. You want to hear uh your voice on one of these episodes, Josh? Let me know where they can do all that.

SPEAKER_00 40:28

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SPEAKER_01 40:48

And with that being said, we'll talk to you guys on the next one.

SPEAKER_00 40:51

Talk to you guys later.