Best time of the year

Christmas movies

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SPEAKER_02 0:00

No more bad language. But can we go over No gra no nothing graphic.

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Can we go over this list, please? Like I said before. We're gonna go before we I emailed you. Before we before we recorded this, actually. Never known what level we were.

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Like I said, like let's just start the show.

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All right, let's start the show. Let's start the show. Wonder what our stuffing of the brackets is gonna be today.

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It's time for random brackets.

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Here.

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Merry Christmas, everybody. Welcome to Random Brackets. I am John. Eric. Heywood. Today we are going to be doing Christmas movies. So it's today's the ninth. We're recording this on the 19th, so hopefully it'll be the season. It'll be out before Christmas, so everyone can listen to it. Get themselves in the Christmas spirit. We got a pretty exciting show for you today. It should be pretty controversial. Get some good debates out here and some really wrong opinions from some of my colleagues here. So we're going to go ahead and start off with the rankings. We've got number one, the Santa Claus, going up against number 16, Santa Claus is coming to town. That's the cartoon version. We've got number eight, Miracle on 34th Street. We're going to make that the more the more recent version, not the one from the 30s. Versus number nine, a Christmas story. You got number five, the Polar Express, versus number 12, Bad Santa. Number four, Elf versus number 13, How the Grinch Stole Christmas, the cartoon. You got number six, a Christmas Carol versus number 11, Nightmare Before Christmas. You got number three, The Grinch, live action with Jim Carrey. Versus number 14, Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer. You got number seven, Home Alone versus number 10, It's a Wonderful Life. Number two, a National Lampoon, Christmas Vacation versus number 15, Love Actually. So we're gonna go ahead and start off with, as we do all the time, with the number one ranked the Santa Claus versus number 16, the s uh Santa Claus is coming to town. Does anybody have would anybody like to open up the debate?

SPEAKER_05 2:14

What you got? Um let me be honest. Nobody is in the conversation with the Santa Claus. Like as Tim Allen is the number one person that has brought Christmas to everybody. So with Santa Claus coming to town, it doesn't compare with anything. So I'm gonna go ahead and go with Santa Claus.

SPEAKER_01 2:44

I will offer this a little bit, a little bit of uh backing for Santa Claus comes to town. I mean it is one of the original holiday specials.

SPEAKER_02 2:54

True.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

So I mean that's kinda classic. That's gotta count for something. For something. How much it counts for, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 3:04

I I can agree with that, but it's only played in schools and TV. TV. Like like literally, you'll bring that into schools and TV that with elementary kids and everybody else, but with the Santa Claus, you will watch that at home all the time. Like but even before Christmas, you are watching that movie. When it comes to after Thanksgiving, you're watching that movie. Or in between, you're watching that movie. Um so I wouldn't I couldn't even have an argument against the Santa Claus.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

So I'm gonna be I'm gonna be 100% honest with you guys here. These uh cartoon claymation movies, uh they they uh they scare the crap out of me. Uh yeah. Even Rudolph? They scare the shit out of me. Even Rudolph? Uh I got a thing, you know, you guys remember James, you guys remember James and the Giant Peach? Yeah. Yeah. So I had a re I had a recurring nightmare after I watched that movie in which the caterpillar and the spider killed my mother. Um it started when I was like eight or nine years old, and I had that recurring dream until I was about 16. Um that explains that clay the clay cartoon thing. Just I don't know why, but I'm like I'm looking at it because I just brought it up just to refresh my memory. So I just brought it up on my computer and looking at it. Yeah, it's it's giving me sweats. Like it's cold in here, and I am like sweating. It is uh I can't look at it. I don't know why. I'm not I don't know why. I don't know why the cart the claymation stuff, cartoon stuff gives me uh makes me nervous, but I don't like it.

SPEAKER_05 4:36

I know we're getting off topic right now, but at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 4:38

How was that off topic? But okay. Go ahead. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 4:41

No, I'm getting off topic. But that James and the Giant Peach. Yeah, I actually did love that movie.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

I I loved it. I loved it. I liked it. Also did like it.

SPEAKER_05 4:50

That was starting to that was that was a inspirational life learning uh movie for me.

SPEAKER_02 4:55

I just want to point out I'm 33 years old, right?

SPEAKER_05 4:58

You mean 40? Oh my bad, my bad. Um my bad, bro. I'm 33 years old.

SPEAKER_02 5:04

I had those dreams almost 20 years ago over a couple years, and it was such a bad nightmare. A bad recurring nightmare. I remember it 20 years later, and it still makes me nervous. Like it really is just a bad movie or a bad nightmare, and I anything like that just kind of and anyways.

SPEAKER_05 5:19

So, what is your choice off topic? The Santa Claus. What is your choice?

SPEAKER_02 5:22

The Santa Claus, Tim Allen, that movie came out in the early to mid-90s, right? I don't I don't remember exactly when it came out, I just know that Christmas time and the Santa Claus, Santa Claus, Santa falling off the roof, him becoming Santa Claus. I that is I don't think it is Christmas. There are there are a couple movies on here where I can honestly say 1994. 1994. Okay, so we were four years old, five years old, we were all five years old. Prime Santa Age. Prime Santa Age. There is no there's about four or five movies on here that we watched every single year, and it would not be Christmas without it, and the Santa Claus is one of them. It's still one of them. It's still one of them. I don't think it's uh and the and they've got the and they've got the sequels, which honestly have you seen the series? I have uh the whole series, I haven't seen the new one.

SPEAKER_05 6:10

Actually, I'm about to see the new one. I'm about to go watch the TV show. Is it a TV show or is it a show? It's a show. Oh, yeah, I gotta watch it.

SPEAKER_02 6:16

I gotta watch it.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Oh, it clears up. It's got Bernardo in there? It does. Yeah, it's got Charlie in there.

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Yeah. Charlie's an old Charlie's gotta be old. He's he was older than us.

SPEAKER_01 6:25

Yeah, he's got kids.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

Yeah. Oh shit. Charlie was older than us. Yeah, see, so it's one of those things where it's like it's not Christmas without the Santa Claus. There's a reason why it's a one seed, there's a reason why it's probably gonna end up at least, at least in the semifinals. I there's no question about this, the Santa Claus takes it.

SPEAKER_05 6:40

Yeah, yeah, I'm with that. So what you got, Eric?

SPEAKER_01 6:43

Charlie is actually 36 years old. Oh, snap. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_05 6:47

He's only three years old enough.

SPEAKER_02 6:48

Yeah, he's only three years old. I knew he was older than us then. Hey, just uh just a little bit. Uh I'm going with the Santa Claus. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_05 6:55

So Santa Claus won it.

SPEAKER_02 6:56

So here's the thing though, guys. We did before we go into the next round, which is the 8-9 seed, which by the way, again, big fan of the 8-9 seed here. I always think it's a great uh great matchup, but I just want to put a little caveat on how we did the method that uh the rankings today, because we do them always very scientifically. Scientifically. And uh there were four movies that got left off of the bracket, and then they came in at the 17 to 20 seed, and I I feel like some honorable mentions. Uh, they're honorable mentions, I think they need to be named. Um 17 came in at 17 came Frosty to Snowman, 18 came in as Scrooged, which some people think is a uh a travesty, but it happened because our method is very scientific. Scientifically, and unfortunately didn't make it. Number 19, for the older listeners, uh, I'm sorry for this, Charlie Brown Christmas didn't make it. And then number 20, the little drummer boy, which to be honest, that's a again, that's a goddamn shame. The little drummer boy? So another click. I just want to throw this. The little drummer boy did not break the 16 seed in ranking in anybody's rankings. So the little drummer boy is unanimously at the bottom. So um unfortunately, none of us liked it, but uh, I just I just felt like those four movies needed to get uh a little bit of a little bit of uh a little bit of time, a little bit of recognition that they didn't make it. That's fair.

SPEAKER_05 8:21

Yeah. I'm with it.

SPEAKER_02 8:22

That you know, our very our method of doing things is very scientific around here. Scientifically. And that, you know, sometimes sometimes stuff doesn't make it, but I did I did feel like those this time, the ones that didn't make it deserve animal mention. So let's go ahead and break into the eight-nine seed here. We've got Miracle on 34th Street, the one that just came out recently. Well, relatively recent, relatively recently. Not recently, but I guess in the last like 25 years, 30 years. Uh and then number nine, a Christmas story. Actually, you know what? I don't really know if this is uh I actually don't know if this is much of a fight, to be honest. This might be the worst 8-9 seed matchup we've ever had.

SPEAKER_05 8:58

Yeah, I think it is. I'm gonna be honest with you. I really think it is. And I want to see if uh Eric has a choice here.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

What the the miracle on 34th Street, the one in the 94 one?

SPEAKER_05 9:11

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

Yeah, the one with the girl who plays uh um Matilda?

SPEAKER_02 9:17

Yes. Yes, yes. By the way, Matilda, great movie. Great movie. Miss Trunchable, Miss Honey.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

I am gonna be honest. Miss Honey? I am gonna be honest.

SPEAKER_05 9:25

I love that chocolate cake. But we all know you like. Or three or five-layer cake? That cake looks so delicious. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

Yeah, but it had like blood in it. Blood.

SPEAKER_05 9:43

Really?

SPEAKER_01 9:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:44

And Matilda?

SPEAKER_01 9:45

What are you talking about? Yeah. Are you serious? What? Yeah, the chocolate cake had blood in it. No, it didn't.

SPEAKER_02 9:51

What movie are you thinking about? It's a horrible thing. Yeah, that's a PG movie.

SPEAKER_05 9:56

It's like, no, it was just it was just a channel. No, that's something that she loved. It was frosting. It was just a chocolate mess. Yes. I don't think so. It's something that she loved.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Because he was like, oh, you like this? And like, oh, because this is what it really is. No, no, no. You're thinking of the wrong movie, bro. The wrong movie, bro. Wrong movie. I could be I could be really wrong.

SPEAKER_05 10:12

Yeah, you definitely wrong movie, brother.

SPEAKER_02 10:14

How cool is Miss Honey's little cottage, though?

SPEAKER_05 10:16

Oh, that was very cool. You know what I'm talking about? Miss Honey. Miss Honey. Yeah. Yeah. You yeah, you think about a wrong movie, bro. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

But to be honest about Miracle on 34th Street. Yeah, Miracle. Uh way off topic. I have never seen it. Old or new. What? What? Old, old or new. It's on Disney. What? That doesn't mean I haven't seen it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:36

The Miracle. I'm not gonna I'm gonna be 100% honest with you. I don't remember it. It's on Disney. I don't remember watching it. I don't think it Are y'all serious? Yeah, it's the one with the Macy's Day parade, and yeah, I don't remember much of it. I don't remember it all. But here's the thing, though. Uh a Christmas story. I don't know how Miracle and 34th Street was ranked eighth. Oh, I do. Yeah, no, defend a Christmas. Actually, you have to defend a miracle on First Story. Please, Wood. Defend it.

SPEAKER_05 11:05

Um I'm I really for me in this in this moment I really can't. Um What do you mean you can't? I really can't. It's a it's a good story. It's a good story. But a Christmas story. It is. But with the Christmas story, if we're going with uh Americans, a Christmas story, it literally everybody loves a Christmas story. Like everybody loves the Christmas story. Like it's shown on every television show when it comes to Christmas. So defending that, the like defending the miracle of the 34th Street, it really cannot compete against that.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

Yeah, dude, TBS TBS starts playing a Christmas story. Like, they play for 24 hours.

SPEAKER_05 11:51

It cannot be a good one.

SPEAKER_02 11:51

Hold on, when do they play for Christ? When do they do it? They're Christmas Eve.

SPEAKER_05 11:55

It does it Christmas Eve, Christmas Day. All day. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 12:02

Sorry, I did have to look it up. But Mitch Strunchable even mentions that the cook's sweat and blood went into the cake. The mystery is whether she meant it literally or figuratively. It leaves us questioning to the entire scene what exactly is inside the cake.

SPEAKER_02 12:19

Yeah, so we we we both took it. So I caught it, so I thought I thought it was literal. Yeah, we both took it figuratively. Yeah, figuratively. I took it literal, so that's why you say you put your blood and sweat into things. Yeah, actually maybe like you're a chef? Yeah. Yeah, I put my blood, sweat, and tears in that. That's a common thing to say about food. Are you sick?

SPEAKER_01 12:36

Yeah, but she was mean. Why is she she she called him a disgusting thief and like, oh, uh, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 12:41

I think I feel like this is going into something deeper here. It really is. I think you have something like that. I think you need to talk to the psychotic. I feel like you need to break this down here. I think you need to talk to the psychological. We're gonna stop talking about this for a second. Because uh uh this is very deep right now. Eric, how does that make you how are you really? That's so that that boy eating that chocolate cake. How did that make it? Why would you reward him if you're trying to be me? It wasn't a reward.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

He was she was trying to punish his gluttony. Like giving him a whole cake, giving the fat, like, oh, here, here, fat boy, here's a whole cake. Like, you're not punishing him, you're making him happy. You're not gonna be. Are we talking about Christmas stories?

SPEAKER_05 13:14

Are we talking about Christmas stories or other stuff? I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 13:17

It's like you caught me on the tangent. I had to look at it. No, here's the thing, though. It's like uh it's like when you it's like those old stories when you hear somebody like, oh, my old man caught me smoking a cigarette, so he made me smoke the whole pack.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

I don't think it works that way, but okay.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

No, that's what it that's what it is. That's what it sounds like. First of all.

SPEAKER_05 13:31

That's what it sounds like.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

You'd be like, I don't know, whole pack sounds pretty good. Matter of fact, I ain't gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_05 13:37

I ain't gonna lie to you. If just getting off subject, if you caught your way off subject. No, no, if you caught this, if you caught your son drinking, you'll be like drink the whole bottle? Drink the whole bottle. Now at the age scar his liver. At the age, at the age of, you know, maybe if you're underage, 17, 18, 16, be like, oh, for real? You like to drink, huh? That's what you like to do.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

I think that alcohol poisoning might be a little Yeah, that's a little much, man. And but at 17 and 18, you'd just be like, I don't know, what time are you when you just screw with them when they have the hung the hangover?

SPEAKER_02 14:10

How old were you when you started drinking with your parents with your parents let you have a drink? I'm not saying you were sneaking drinks?

SPEAKER_05 14:16

I will not say that. What we all I mean I'm not saying that.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

What?

SPEAKER_05 14:21

I'm not saying my age. That your parents let you have a drink?

SPEAKER_02 14:24

I'm not saying I was 14 or 15.

SPEAKER_05 14:26

Are you serious?

SPEAKER_02 14:26

Yeah, that we were allowed to have a drink? A drink? Yes.

SPEAKER_05 14:30

A drink?

SPEAKER_02 14:31

Like a like a glass of wine, a beer.

SPEAKER_01 14:34

My dad didn't. My dad didn't let me have anything until after I was 18. Really? I couldn't even have a doesn't mean that's when I started drinking.

SPEAKER_05 14:41

Bro, I couldn't even come up with it.

SPEAKER_02 14:42

You guys were sneaking drinks as teenagers? Yes. Yes. That's weird. How is that weird? How is that weird? No. Is that? No. Do I have to have bad parents?

SPEAKER_05 14:52

Very loving parents. I was sneaking.

SPEAKER_02 14:54

It's weird that you didn't. No, because I think they the way they explained it was we would rather you It's the little rebellious. Bro, so I never I never rebelled. So it's hard.

SPEAKER_05 15:05

So let me ask you this question.

unknown 15:06

I got a question.

SPEAKER_02 15:06

Guys, I used to, I would what? You didn't sneak eggnog. Dude, I used to. You know they put liquor in eggnog? I used to mow the nuns who ran the school. I used to mow their lawn, and that's not a euphemism. Like I literally mowed the lawn for the nuns. That's not a euphemism. I'm being serious. What was I rebelling against? So hold on. You didn't even sneak the eggnog with the liquor in it? Why would I do that? I just asked, hey, can I have a can I have can I have a little booze in here? Why would I sneak it? Just ask.

SPEAKER_05 15:37

Because the answer was always no. Oh yeah, I ain't gonna lie to you. You didn't know. Where are you from again? Fayeville? No, you're from California.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

We're way off topic. Way off topic.

SPEAKER_02 15:54

So the whole the whole concept was is like if I wasn't if I did if they did it openly, right, then I wouldn't go around sneaking in and went around getting in trouble, right? Like if I ever got in a situation I can call my parents a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

So what you're saying is your parents would have bought you the red the red uh rider BB gun.

SPEAKER_02 16:11

No, we didn't have BB guns. No, we weren't allowed to have BB guns. So we fear that we would end up shooting each other. Like when we got older. Like we became teenagers, we were old enough to like buy airsoft guns.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

I have tried to segue this back to the brother.

SPEAKER_05 16:27

Bro, me and my brother would actually go each other with an axe or a chainsaw.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

Yeah, so the thing was, so I don't know what I'm saying. I remember being a little my mom, my mom actually stopped me and my brothers from watching like Kung Fu movies or like karate movies because after we were done, we would spend the next four or five hours doing those movements on each other. And it would like every time we watched Power Rangers, it was like a you know 30-minute show, but it turned into like two hours of like hype, you know, just like karate chopping each other and fighting.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

So like how bad did you want to be the pink ranger?

SPEAKER_05 16:58

Alright, so look, let me uh let me let me go ahead and say this this round of the 8 and 9 C, yeah, is it relevant?

SPEAKER_02 17:06

It's 100% relevant. It's a hundred. It's definitely a Christmas story, right?

SPEAKER_05 17:09

Although we could definitely Christmas story because it's irrelevant, because I ain't gonna listen to this. We went definitely off of subject with a quick light.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

Folks, this is just how we are in real life.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

Yeah, I'm just saying I'm just saying why my whole thing was I guess my parents too, it made sense to me. I don't run around sneaking drinks. There was no need to.

SPEAKER_04 17:28

Shit.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

And well, we didn't I didn't get in trouble. Like there was no nothing to get in trouble. I'd I have a very I have a very strict as an adult, I have a very strict two drink rule. Where if I don't have if I have more than two drinks, I don't drive. Shit.

SPEAKER_05 17:42

I think I'm a very responsive drinker. That's fair. You learned that at an early age. Now look.

SPEAKER_01 17:52

Look, if he has more than two drinks, he can't attend his rose garden.

SPEAKER_02 17:55

I can't. Hey, leave my roses alone. By the way, I winterized my I winterized my roses right before I left too. Okay, Mac, everything's frozen.

SPEAKER_05 18:03

Yo, your house look like yo your house really do look like a 60-year-old woman's house.

SPEAKER_02 18:08

I'm gonna take that as a compliment.

SPEAKER_05 18:09

And I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_02 18:10

My front yard looks great though, doesn't it? A little bit, not too much.

SPEAKER_01 18:13

I do love the bowl of uh Carmel's.

SPEAKER_05 18:16

But your backyard, your backyard look like My backyard's looking a little rough. Looking like you you was born. You like you're 20, 25 years old. A little bit.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

Okay, my backyard's a little rough, man. It takes some work. I've cleaned it up a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 18:28

But nobody can see it. It takes more work. Nobody can work.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

It just takes a lot more work. There's no sun back there. Nobody can see it. It's in the cover. I'm not really sure what I want to do with it. You know what? Alright, let's go to number number five, the Polar Express, versus number 12, Bad Santa.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

I'm going Polar Express. America's Dad, Tom Hanks. So many characters in it.

SPEAKER_05 18:47

I'm I'm I'm kinda I'm kind of with you on that, but no, I'm not with you on that. Bad Santa.

SPEAKER_02 18:54

Why Bad Santa?

SPEAKER_05 18:55

Bad Santa has characters that literally is the pinnacle of the movie scene. Um yeah, Bernie Mac. What what's the guy from uh A-ball?

SPEAKER_02 19:13

Talking about the midget?

SPEAKER_05 19:14

No, the A-ball, A-ball that's a good one. No, no, not the little person, not the little person. Uh uh, what wait with um what's your guy's name, man?

SPEAKER_02 19:25

John Ritter? John Ritter isn't there. Tony Cox? Tony Mack, Brett Kelly.

SPEAKER_05 19:30

From Armageddon.

SPEAKER_02 19:32

The guy from Armageddon.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

The one that Are you thinking of Billy Bob Thornton? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:37

Oh my god, Billy Bob Thornton. Why do we I love Billy Bob Thornton? I love Bill Bob Thornton.

SPEAKER_02 19:42

You can just say the main character, bro. There you go. The main character. The main character. Billy Bob Thornton.

SPEAKER_05 19:48

I did. And that that was main character of Bad Center and Armageddon. That's what I'm saying. He wasn't the main character in Armageddon. Yes, he was. No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't. Yes, he was.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

It's Bruce Willis.

SPEAKER_05 20:01

No, Bruce Willis is the Ben Affleck. No. Whoa. Are you serious? Have you seen Armageddon? Bro, I watch Armageddon about I watched Armageddon about literally 50 times. 50 times. Yes, he was the main character.

SPEAKER_02 20:21

Ben Affleck, Bruce Willis, and then Liv Taylor. Is it Liv Taylor? Liv Willis. Live Liv Taylor Liv Taylor.

SPEAKER_05 20:27

No, he Billy Bob Thornton was the co-star.

SPEAKER_02 20:30

No.

SPEAKER_05 20:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 20:31

No. No. I mean, he was a co-star, but he wasn't the main character. He was the main character. He's a supporting character. He's a supporting character.

SPEAKER_05 20:37

Okay. So what are you telling me?

SPEAKER_02 20:40

And this is like this is like uh on how I met your mother when they're watching the Karate Kid. And and uh William and uh Barney thinks that the the main character is Bobby Lawrence is the main character over uh Cobra Kai's with the good guys.

SPEAKER_05 21:00

Oh but yeah but it has it bad sound was funny. Um it was a love it was a lovable movie.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

I actually I wouldn't say lovable, but it was lovable. I mean it was lovable but harsh. It was lovable but harsh. But what is Christmas though? Christmas is you know you come together with your family, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:20

I'm not gonna say I watched I watched the Polar Express for the I watched Polar Express for the first time the other night. Yeah last uh two weeks ago before uh Ruth and I went on the cruise. It's fantastic, isn't it? It's a fantastic movie. It is a good movie. It's such I mean it is action-packed. Like from the get-go, I was like, oh wow, because it's only like an hour, hour, forty five, it's like an hour and a half, hour forty-five. And to be honest for me, I don't know if I've told you guys this. I I think movies have gotten too long. I think they've gotten to the point where they're just like just get to the story. Like, if you can't tell a story in two hours, and just what do you do? Then make it a mini series, right? But personally, uh, I think it was action packed, it was constantly moving, it got to the point, um, and not only that too, but it Was so it was so Christmassy. I will tell you this.

SPEAKER_01 22:02

The one thing I don't like when you know when that at the end where he's so desperately trying to hear the ringing of the bell.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

But and and here's the thing too, I liked it right at the end too. They were like, everybody else stopped hearing the bell, but I still heard it. Like his sister rings. And I was like, you know, as a grown man, that's still that's still pretty because we do, I mean, we we all kind of lose that you know, you get in your twenties, and you know, you know the world beats it down. Yeah, the world beats you down, you're not around your you're not around your siblings anymore, you're not around your parents, and you know sometimes you can't make it home. So you start spending Christmas. Where you go?

SPEAKER_05 22:39

But that's my that's my main point with kind of bad sound, is like you go through turmoil, you go through a lot of stuff, and you you see the badness in the world, but once it came to Christmas, it was like man, everybody brings together you actually realize what you have for bad sense. Like you realize what you have for Christmas, and you realize that family actually does matter. The people around you actually does matter.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

That's a bit of a stretch, but I'm not a bit of a stretch. Yeah, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go with Polar Express. It's such a good it's such a good movie. I was happy I watched it the other night. I was like, you know, this is this is a pretty solid movie. Alright, number four, elf versus number 13, how the Grinch Stole Christmas. The cartoon.

SPEAKER_05 23:24

The cartoon?

SPEAKER_02 23:25

The cartoon, how the Grinch stole Christmas. Elf.

SPEAKER_05 23:27

Elf.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

Elf. That's peak.

SPEAKER_05 23:29

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

That air, that that air is like peak wolf. Yeah, it's a good thing. Now, if if you were saying Jim Carrey, he's coming out with Steph Brothers.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

Alright, here we go. That was a pretty easy round. Uh, number six, a Muppet Christmas Carol versus number nine. A number versus number eleven, sorry. A nightmare before Christmas.

SPEAKER_05 23:48

Hold on, say that one more time.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

Number six, a Muppet Christmas Carol versus number eleven, the nightmare before Christmas. A Muppet's Christmas Carol.

SPEAKER_05 23:57

Nightmare before Christmas.

SPEAKER_02 23:58

So here's my thing. Nightmare before Christmas is already ranked way too high. Are you serious? It's a lesson.

SPEAKER_01 24:02

Are you serious? Yes, we are not. I have it is a Halloween movie. The director said it's a Halloween movie.

SPEAKER_02 24:09

And not only that, too. Tim Burton's people's people who really like Tim Burton movies really like Tim Burt movies. Really like Tim Bovies. And you know what? They will tell you, you know why? Because it's a tattoo of the of a tattoo of that of a couple of their characters on the Jack's.

SPEAKER_05 24:28

It's a Halloween. It gives me, you know who really likes it? It's a Halloween movie. Love Storm.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

Women who have uh Cookie Monster pajama pants really seem to like, you know, A Nightmare Before Christmas. You know what I'm talking about. God look, I I really want to get a 2000 Zemo music. They really like 2000 Zemo music. They got a Cookie Monster PJs. They they walk around Walmart in their PJs and they've got, and you know they have a Jack Skeleton character. They're always always wearing a hoodie. And they might have a they might have a uh Deathly Hollows tattoo as well. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. There's a type. There's a type. There's a type. There's a type of people that we're gonna do.

SPEAKER_05 25:07

I was about to argue against that, but at the same time, I was like, damn, I gotta agree. I gotta agree. What?

SPEAKER_02 25:13

Is that your ex-girlfriend?

SPEAKER_05 25:14

Uh nope. Nope. Nope.

SPEAKER_00 25:18

Don't lie.

SPEAKER_05 25:19

Nope. Don't lie. It is. Your sister? One of your ex-girlfriend sisters? Is probably two girls I used to mess with. They love their boobs.

SPEAKER_02 25:32

Alright. A Muppet Christmas Carol. I mean, does anyone does anyone want to defend a Muppet Christmas Carol and so they don't still win by default?

SPEAKER_05 25:38

Go ahead, Eric.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

You got it.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

No, I'm gonna say Muppet Christmas Carol.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

I it is one of my I'm hands down one of my favorite movies. The fact that it's ranked number six actually kind of irritates me. I feel like I I feel like it should be ranked higher.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

Well, this was done scientifically. It was there.

unknown 25:52

Scientifically. Scientifically.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Um and it just it really it is one of my favorite movies, hands down. So I guess we can just move on. That was an easy that was a pretty easy one. Alright, here we go. Number three, the Grinch live action, Jim Carrey, versus number fourteen, Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer. Wait, fix my mic. Oh, yeah. Oh, there we go. Sorry about that.

SPEAKER_05 26:13

Same one with time.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

Yeah. Number three, the Grinch. Live action with Jim Carrey. Versus number fourteen, Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer.

SPEAKER_05 26:21

Jim Carrey. You already made the argument of the side.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

I'm going with Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer right now. Are you serious? Just because I think the claymation.

SPEAKER_05 26:31

Are you serious? It doesn't even need some representation. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Nah, that's the first one. What's the first song? What is wrong with Jingle Bells? I'm not even worried about that. I'm not even worried about that.

SPEAKER_02 26:44

That's not a bad song. He doesn't make a he makes a besides Jingle Bells.

SPEAKER_01 26:49

What's the first Christmas song you learn?

SPEAKER_05 26:50

I understand. Those reindeer. I understand that. I understand that. I understand that. But at the same time, describe the movie towards the Grinch that stole Christmas. Besides the Grinch. Like, describe the movie. What do you mean, describe the movie? Like, like, compare it to that movie. Like, literally, because with the claimation, right? Um, of Rude Red Nose Reiner. You guys know how I feel about claymation. Yeah, with the claimation of Rude Red Nose Reindeer, like, I'm not gonna say it's a bad movie, but as I said before, it's made for schools, not at home.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

You're not gonna watch that really at home unless you're unless you're at the TV and you're not it's not Christmas until you start saying Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer.

SPEAKER_05 27:37

Are you serious right now?

SPEAKER_02 27:38

He makes a good point.

SPEAKER_05 27:40

Okay, let me go ahead and argue. Let me go ahead and argue. I need you to defend the Grand Red, let me defend the Grinch. Let me go ahead and defend the Grinch. Defend the Grinch. When it comes to Jim Carrey plan in the Grinch, I believe that that was one of his best, amazing, and craziest roles that he did. And I think he had uh the most fun with that role. Um The Grant actually wrong a light of terribleness, happiness, any emotion that you can think of to be like, hey, I can be bad, but I can also turn good. I can be a great person if I change my life.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

You know, I just want to put those out there. You could have offered the same defense for How the Grinch stole Christmas when it was versus the elf. You could have. No, no, no, no, no. I mean it's it's the same movie. It is not not. Let's just put that out there. The Grinch, I just want to throw this out there. The story of the Grinch got on it is on the on the best Christmas movies rankings two times.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

Two times.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

So shout out to Dr. Seuss. Right, Dr. Seuss wrote the Grinch.

SPEAKER_01 29:00

Dr. Seuss, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:01

Shout out to Dr. Seuss, right? For creating such a special movie that two different versions of that movie ended up or whatever, two stories, right? They're creating a story, being the author of a story, that ended up on this on this uh on this list twice. I mean that's that's a that's a pretty that's that is a testament to what you just said. That is a testament to how good of a Christmas story it is, is that it's on there twice. So by default, one of them needs to get through if it's that good. And to be honest, uh you know how I feel about Claymation.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

Yeah, but Claymation aside, you know, like I said.

SPEAKER_05 29:39

I'm not gonna affront Wood, man.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

The whole nostalgia factor of Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer, like even Christmas lights, you have to see Rudolph, like you can't picture Santa Slay without Rudolph. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

I'm not gonna say it's not Christmas without Rudolph, but it can be Christmas without Rudolph and the red-nosed reindeer. Yeah, but it can also be Christmas without the Christmas. If Rudolph in his nose. Not the movie. If not the movie.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

You can watch it without it. You can have a nice, wonderful Christmas without and and I can say the same thing about that movie. No, because you can't, because you can't get away, you you can't get away with it because it's in the holidays place. I understand, listen, everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 30:13

I have a feel I have a feeling as if sometimes you're connecting some kind of growing up nostalgia to that claymation 1970s crap. Right? I'm gonna call it crap because it's it's it's bad. And I'm tired of without that, we've tired of us all acting every year. We're all we're all just gonna act like they made these cartoon claymation movies in the 1970s, and every year we have to watch it, and we all have to sit around and go, oh my god, it's Christmas with this. You know what? It's a beautiful movie. No, no, I'm done. I'm not nope, I'm down. I'm out, I'm out, I'm I'm done acting like old fashioned. I'm I am done acting like these boomers and Gen Xers, uh nostalgia bullcrap that we have to constantly ingest every year. Without these, but without these claymation classics.

SPEAKER_03 31:02

Excuse me, sir. Excuse me, sir. Let them finish.

SPEAKER_01 31:05

We wouldn't have the movies that we have today. No, these movies stand on the shoulders of giants. No, no, shoulders of giants. Nope. Nope.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

Because you got Miracle and Thai Forestry, you got a It's Wonderful Life, you've got plenty of older movies, Christmas movies, that they've got older Christmas movies.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

Yeah, but those aren't those weren't those were not geared towards children. Those were those were adult audiences.

SPEAKER_02 31:33

A Christmas story is a Christmas story came out in the 80s. He makes a good point though. He makes a very solid point. What you mean? These are the very first because these came out before Christmas. They came out before the Christmas story, right? All these came out in the 70s. So this is the first this is like the very first Christmas movies directed towards children.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

Without them. Without them, there is no there is no Santa Claus, there's no Muppet Christmas genre, there's no kids' Christmas movie genre.

SPEAKER_05 32:02

Oh, you think that they they wouldn't come out with something beautiful or creative? They didn't. Or no, no.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

That is this is it, this is what they created. This is the this is what it was. This is what this is what it was.

SPEAKER_05 32:15

Okay, so you're saying that the Muppets came from Rudolph the Red Nose Ranger. We're saying that all a drummer boy or this and that.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

Like you think that came from the that all the all of these Christmas movies that we have nostalgia in are rooted in the claymation.

SPEAKER_01 32:32

Like without like without Snow White, there is no Elsa. Without Snow White, there is no Elsa.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

Without Rudolph the Red Nose Rangers, there is no the Santa Claus. No. So here's the thing. Great, hold on. Great point. I think you make a very valid argument for Rudolph and the Red Nosed Reindeer. I disagree. But I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm still going with the Grinch.

SPEAKER_05 32:53

I disagree.

SPEAKER_02 32:55

No, no claimation, no, no prehistoric James and the Giant Peach cartoons will make it on this list if I have anything to say about it.

SPEAKER_05 33:05

Nobody really liked that movie. In my opinion. Nobody really liked the Rules the Red Nose Reindeer, in my opinion. Like Yeah, no one ever likes those movies. F that dog gone root out the red-nosed reindeer.

SPEAKER_01 33:21

Yeah. I mean, those out of those two movies.

SPEAKER_05 33:23

No, no, if you did it in a cartoon version, fine.

SPEAKER_02 33:26

I just have a really like vivid memory of sitting in like onesie, like a fleece onesie, all zipped up and being really hot in like a house and having to like being like stuffed and watching these movies and being uncomfortable. I don't like one. I didn't like God, I hated I hated sleeping in pajamas when I was a kid. Sorry. I've just got like vivid memories of sitting in a onesie, just like watching these movies uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_01 33:51

Why? Something's wrong with you.

SPEAKER_05 33:55

Just to point out, I never wore a Christmas onesie in my life.

SPEAKER_02 33:57

I'm not saying a Christmas onesie. I had a blue, dude, I had this blue onesie. I'll never forget. One year I did get a Batman ones.

SPEAKER_05 34:04

I got a Batman onesie.

SPEAKER_02 34:05

What? Do you do? Of course you do.

SPEAKER_05 34:07

Yeah.

unknown 34:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:08

I mean like Batman. I ain't gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_02 34:10

I uh I gave it to somebody, but I have a Honestly though, the thought of like the thought of being in a full bodysuit like onesie and have not being able to take off. I guess I I mean I am comfortable, perfectly comfortable sleeping in like 30 degree weather. 100%. Give me a comforter, I'll be alright. Like I love being cold. I I can't stand being hot. It really like thing about being in a onesie right now is making me sweaty.

SPEAKER_01 34:34

Yeah, that's what's making you sweaty. I'm not gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_05 34:38

I had this conversation with somebody before. What? About the cold and everything.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

And uh hey, get ready. I mean, you know, talk about 14 degree. I know, I'm excited on Christmas. I know.

SPEAKER_02 34:51

We might have a there is a very, very, very small chance of having a white Christmas. Hey, how wonderful would that be? That would be so fantastic. How long would you be? Don't say it like that. How long listen? That was straight trumpy vibes for me right now. How long was recording first? Um about 40 minutes. Yeah. It took us 40 minutes to get resisted. Honestly, you know what though? That was that was that was you though, that not him that time.

SPEAKER_01 35:29

Because you want to have snow on Christmas?

SPEAKER_02 35:32

That's not what you said. Hey, would he look me dead in the eyes and guys and go, Oh, we might have a white Christmas. How great would that be? That would be a good thing. You put no Christmas. How great would that be to have a white Christmas? How great would you be? I really felt you felt. I was giving you, I was giving you general, I was giving you general lead vibes. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but look, you're owned to cure it. I was giving you Stone Mountain vibes. You know what I'm saying? Like Stone Mountain vibes. You know what I'm saying? You're giving me Richard Nixon vibes.

SPEAKER_01 36:03

The only vibes you were giving were Stone Mountain. Robert Bird, huh? Um, how great would it to be to wake up on Christmas morning and you're opening gifts and then start spooling uh the Grinch.

SPEAKER_02 36:17

There you go. That's all I need. That's all right. Here we go. Number seven, Home Alone versus number ten. It's a wonderful life.

SPEAKER_05 36:22

Home Alone. I don't even know the movie wants to wonderful life.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

But the problem I have was it's a wonderful life.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

Uh Home Alone has Donald Trump in it, so you already know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 36:31

It's only the second one. Whatever.

SPEAKER_05 36:34

It's the second one, not number one.

SPEAKER_01 36:37

I don't care. I didn't see I didn't see that. I'm getting it's I didn't see Hillary helping him in Home.

SPEAKER_02 36:43

Honestly, he's the hero. He is. He's the hero deserved the movie.

SPEAKER_05 36:49

I thought we weren't gonna make this political. No, that's not a cheap joke, I took it. That was my fault. That was my fault. I brought in Richard Nixon.

SPEAKER_02 37:00

Obviously, the contrast the very controversial Richard Nixon in 2022. I am not a fault. That was my fault.

SPEAKER_01 37:11

Absolutely. No, go ahead. The problem that I have with it with it's a wonderful life, is that is it really a Christmas movie? Because only the last 10 minutes takes place during Christmas. It takes place around Christmas, yeah. But the whole movie is his life, and you know, does you know the early 1900s, the Great Depression, yeah, all that stuff, and then like at the very end where he's contemplating suicide, is bam, it's Christmas. Oh no, oh no. He contemplated suicide?

SPEAKER_05 37:45

Yeah, yeah. I gotta say, I never seen the movie, but he contemplated suicide.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

So I'm gonna tell you right now, I think around Christmas?

SPEAKER_05 37:52

Around Christmas, well, because I'm definitely gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 37:54

Because it was definitely going to get it.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

So Jimmy Stewart, James Stewart, right, actually needed to come up with $8,000. He had some serious he had some serious issues when he came back from the war, right? And this movie was actually made in 46. So I remember reading an article that he actually had a difficult time making this movie because it addressed some like some serious it like he was he for all intent and purposes he had some serious he had some some some pretty serious PTSD, right? And then he makes this movie that is you know, all about a guy questioning his you know existence, right? Which you gotta think about as someone who just came back from you know the horrors of war and coming back and then doing a movie that questioned your entire existence while he was also trying to like comprehend the world around him. I I won that's I think that goes I think that says a lot about Jam Jimmy Stewart. I really I think that says a lot about his character, I think it says a lot about his ability as an actor to be able to do something so intense while also like n personally going through so much. Um and I think it's a great I think it's I think it's a great story, I think.

SPEAKER_01 39:06

You know, it's one of those things where I I'm following with you 100% on all of this, but it's a movie you can watch year round.

SPEAKER_02 39:14

I think if anything, I think that goes more into its favor. It's such a good movie that it doesn't imply just a Christmas, but it also implies year round.

SPEAKER_01 39:27

But this is a Christmas movie list. And I don't think it I I don't think I know it's classified as a Christmas movie, but I don't think it's classified as a Christmas movie. I understand what it's classified as. I mean, there's still a debate of whether Die Hard's a Christmas movie or not.

SPEAKER_03 39:42

There's no no Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

See what I'm saying? But like the last 10 minutes of the movie, it's Christmas. And it doesn't really address, like, hey, this is the holiday season, this is Christmas, this is what this movie is.

SPEAKER_02 39:57

So the American Film Institute ranked it number one on the list of all-time most inspirational American movies, right? Uh number 11 and they're on their number 20 and their 2007 greatest movies ever made. Um 20? Yeah. It is it's it's one of those things where it's who listen. Wow. In 1990, it's a wonderful life was designated as culturally, historically, and aesthetically significant, and was added to the National Film Registry at the Library of Congress. I I think you have to give it its due. Unfortunately, it's going against Home Alone. I have my own thing against Home Alone, minus like the previous jokes aside. I never really liked the Home Alone series. I didn't get it.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Their family is really I was re-watching it, and both in the first and the second movie, like they're really awful. They're awful. To Kevin McKin McAllister. Yes, they really are. The older brother was literally just bullying you in front of the entire family. And then when you retaliated, you're the one who got in trouble.

SPEAKER_02 40:56

Yeah, and here's the thing, too. What how many there's like nine kids, eight kids, how many kids are there?

SPEAKER_05 41:01

Uh it sounds right. About eight or nine. Eight or nine, right? Eight or nine.

SPEAKER_02 41:06

So here's the thing, right? You all have siblings growing up, right? So one sibling starts picking on the other sibling, right? The weaker one, or the one in weaker position, right? Because everybody has been in a weaker position when when debating something or arguing something or picking on somebody, right? So you see one bigger sibling, or one sibling in a in a position of, I'm gonna say power for this purpose, right? And they see us another sibling that's in a weaker position. What do you do? You automatically prunce on that sibling and be like, oh, I'm gonna kick a dead horse, right? I'm going down on and then at a certain point the other siblings go look around and go, all right, well, now you just all right, well, why are you picking on him? Like, and then you start going after the bully, right? It's like a natural circle, right? Like it's a natural circle.

SPEAKER_01 41:48

Like in the second movie, yeah. Like they're in they're in the choir, they're singing, yeah. And the older brother, he has like the two candles, he's making little ears on top of him while he's singing his solo.

SPEAKER_00 41:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

The whole auditorium is laughing at him. Dude, you don't insult, you don't you They're laughing at him, and then he attacks the older sibling. Like the parents see what's going on behind him. Absolutely. And then he they get like, you ruined the pageant. Like, no.

SPEAKER_02 42:10

No, he does ruined it. He was the older ruined parents, horrible brother. You don't horrible uncle. You beat you listen, you beat up your brothers, beat up your brothers in private. Yeah. You don't do it in public. Not a bad. You don't embarrass your brother.

SPEAKER_05 42:23

Not a solo.

SPEAKER_02 42:23

And you don't embarrass your, you don't embarrass your second movie.

SPEAKER_05 42:27

We talk about the first movie.

SPEAKER_02 42:28

Okay, even the first movie. Who leaves their kid?

SPEAKER_01 42:31

Yeah. How do you go?

SPEAKER_02 42:32

How do you leave a kid? Honestly, who's his buddy?

SPEAKER_05 42:37

There's so much. Who's his buddy? Hold on. His mother.

SPEAKER_02 42:40

No, I'm saying no, but who's this who's his sibling buddy?

SPEAKER_05 42:42

Yeah, the the the buddy's mom. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. It was a buddy buddy.

SPEAKER_02 42:47

Mom's got a lot of going things. Who's the sibling buddy? It was the sibling buddy. It was the sibling buddy.

SPEAKER_05 42:52

She got a buddy system. It's a buddy system. Everybody's got a buddy. It was a buddy system. You're supposed to keep up with this person, and this person's supposed to keep up with that person. Yeah, and whatever the case may be.

SPEAKER_01 43:00

It's well established that none of them wanted to help him because he was asking, like, hey, can you help me pack my suitcase? I'd never done it before. And they're like, You're what the French call les incompetent, and then they're so useless. Yeah, but like that many kids everyone was like awful.

SPEAKER_02 43:16

Having that many kids in a house that big and like all one the one mother. And going on vacation. I'm not going to be able to do that. What did his dad also sit here?

SPEAKER_01 43:24

Like also, the kids were cousins and siblings.

SPEAKER_02 43:28

They were all living in that house?

SPEAKER_01 43:30

No. They were they were meeting in that house to fly to France. Excuse me. They were flying to France? Yeah, it was like all those kids.

SPEAKER_02 43:37

I mean, how am I going to win?

SPEAKER_05 43:42

To go against a 1946 movie? John Hughes. You can say what you want. 1946 movie that nobody ever watched before.

SPEAKER_02 43:53

For the last thirty for the last 30 years, the only people that actually watch this movie, the only people that watch this movie that's

SPEAKER_05 44:00

From 1946 is white people. Whoa. Let's go on here. I'm just going to say that.

SPEAKER_02 44:07

Wait, what? The only people A Wonderful Life It's International in the Library of Congress. One. Hold on. Two.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Are you freaking serious? The fact that you just said that is that I vividly remember there was an episode of the Bernie Mac show where he's showing some other kid life is beautiful and he's crying because how great that movie is. That was in the Bernie Mac show. So actually, I'm not gonna lie to you. How dare you, sir?

SPEAKER_05 44:30

I'm not gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_02 44:31

How dare you? How dare you?

SPEAKER_05 44:34

Damn, Derek. And not dare you. I just lost.

SPEAKER_02 44:36

And I'm just gonna throw this out.

SPEAKER_05 44:38

I just lost. Because you just brought up the Bernie Mac show of the greatest fucking comedians that I ever I ever loved in my life. For 30 years. For you to say that, I'm gonna just bow down. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 44:52

No, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep kicking on Helm alone. For 30 years I've had to sit here. And I've suffered in silence, right? When I've just I've had to sit here and wat and and I've seen all three of these movies, right? There's like six whatever. I saw the first three.

SPEAKER_05 45:09

I think it's four. Whatever. I saw the first I saw three of them.

SPEAKER_02 45:12

I had to sit here and suffer in silence every time. Yeah. And not act, but gently appease everyone around me on loving home alone. And I'm gonna tell you this right now. I am so tired of it. I never liked the movies. I always dreaded when everyone said we're gonna watch it. I don't like the movies. I think uh this this whole the slapping of the the slapping of the face with the mouth open is stupid, right? And I'm honestly I just I can't take it anymore. I was never gonna vote for Home Alone. There was nothing you guys could say to make me to to make me vote for it. It's a crap movie, it's a crap series, and it's dumb. And I I'm I I'm tired of doing it. It's I know it's unpopular opinion, and I know there's gonna be people listening to this, and they'll be like, what? What is wrong with I don't care. I don't care. I'm tired of I'm tired of sitting here trying to act like I like home alone or it's a good Chris. It's a bad movie. It's a bad movie with shitty parents and shittier siblings, and I don't get it, and I don't I don't like it. And I'm voting for It's a Wonderful Life. It's up to you guys how you guys want to make this. I I'm I already told you, I'm bowing down. So you're abstaining or you're voting for It's a Wonderful Life? What do you vote for? Um just voting. Just vote. Just vote. I'm you're abstaining.

SPEAKER_05 46:27

That's fine. Yeah, I'm abstaining. I'm going in new.

SPEAKER_01 46:30

I don't like the pressure of this one. Go ahead. I really don't like the pressure of this one.

SPEAKER_05 46:33

I'm not gonna front with you. From what is your last comment was?

SPEAKER_01 46:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 46:38

That actually got to me. When you brought up Bertie McName and said he watched that and got a big thing.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

So I think that's I think that's what you're going for.

SPEAKER_05 46:46

I'm not gonna front. I have to go for that.

SPEAKER_02 46:51

So it's wonderful. It's wonderful life. Listen, I know, listen, people are gonna be listening to this video. Like I said, I never watched a movie. Home alone. But honestly, I don't care. And I want you to know if you're listening to this and you think please keep listening. One, but two, I don't care. I don't care about your opinion that a home alone should make it further. Home alone's a bad movie.

SPEAKER_01 47:09

I care about your opinion. I don't. Find us on Twitter. This is one episode.

SPEAKER_02 47:13

I don't care. Well that's no. And if you do find us on social media and you do say something, I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't care. Home alone's a bad movie. I care about your people. I'm gonna say it's a bad movie. I'm gonna say it's a bad movie. We got the next round. Number two, National Lampoon, Christmas Vacation versus number 15, Love Actually.

SPEAKER_05 47:31

Oh, National Lampoon. Stop playing me.

SPEAKER_01 47:33

Look, I I I've waited for this round because I want to hear his argument of love actually.

SPEAKER_05 47:38

Yeah, this is the last round, and I know, I know doggone will I am not voting for love actually.

SPEAKER_01 47:46

So here's the thing. There's only one thing that would make me vote for it, and I don't even think he's gonna get it.

SPEAKER_02 47:51

I love love actually.

SPEAKER_01 47:53

I really do. Why?

SPEAKER_02 47:54

It's because it's it's like eight storylines, all happening simultaneously.

SPEAKER_05 48:00

Um how many times did you watch it?

SPEAKER_02 48:01

Um I don't know, like four or five. I've seen it four or five times.

SPEAKER_05 48:04

I'm gonna be honest. Yeah. Oh, I've never seen it. It's when did it come out?

SPEAKER_02 48:09

I don't know, mid-2000s?

SPEAKER_05 48:11

Uh literally?

SPEAKER_02 48:12

Yeah, something like that. I And you watched it four or five times? I watched it four or five times. I like it. It's a not a bad, it's not a bad movie. Now here's the thing. I am gonna vote for a Christmas vacation because it's a better Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_05 48:23

It's a definitely better Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_01 48:25

It came out in 2003. Alright. Early 2000s. Early 2000s. I will give you the all-star cast. It's got a great cast. Hugh Grant, Colin Forth, Emma uh Thompson, Liam Neeson. Yeah. Oh, really? Uh Kieran Knightley. Kira Knightley.

SPEAKER_05 48:39

But it's not even a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_01 48:42

It's 100% a Christmas movie. Alan Rickman's R.I.P. Andrew Lincoln.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

It's a great movie. It's a it's a it is a Christmas movie. It focuses all around Christmas. What are you talking about? Hugh Grant is wonderful in it. Kieran Knightley's great. Alan Rickman's even better.

SPEAKER_01 48:58

Hey, it has that one guy from APOL, um, the Bad Santa guy. Um that one guy's a smacky with dismount.

SPEAKER_02 49:05

Billy Bob Thorne plays the president. Uh smacky with dismounting. No, Billy Bob Thorne isn't it. He isn't it. He plays the president. He plays president of the United States.

SPEAKER_05 49:13

Oh, so he's not a main character?

SPEAKER_02 49:15

No, he's actually not a main character. No, he's a supporting character member. Actually, yeah, Billy Bob Thorn made a couple appearances on this list. Now that I'm thinking about it, shout out to Billy Bob. Shout out to Billy Bob Thorne. Good on you. Maybe he'll have his own bracket one day. Maybe his own bracket.

SPEAKER_01 49:36

He'll be the main character one bracket one day.

SPEAKER_02 49:38

Love actually has a great cast. It's uh it's it's it's focused all around Christmas, and it's about love. You know, it's about finding love, all kinds of love. Old love, young love, puppy love, you know, forbidden love. There's there's a there's a lot of things in there, and I I it sounds like I'm gonna skip that one.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

And uh it's a good one, it's a good rom com.

SPEAKER_02 50:01

It's a good rom com. I highly recommend it. If if you need really, you're just gonna hurt are you gonna defend a Christmas vacation? Is anyone gonna defend Christmas vacation?

SPEAKER_01 50:11

Wow. I don't think we have to. We'll have to. Do we have to? Is it too early? Are you saying it's just too early? That's fine. It's definitely too early. That's cool. It's too early.

SPEAKER_02 50:18

Listen, I just wanted to give I just wanted to give a defense to Love Actually. Yeah. It is one of my favorite movies. Or one of my more favorite Christmas movies.

SPEAKER_01 50:26

I might have been swayed if you voted for Rudolph the Red Nose Rainbow, but so you've been prejudiced again?

SPEAKER_02 50:33

No, I wasn't gonna vote for Love Actually over Petty.

SPEAKER_05 50:36

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 50:36

Yeah, over Christmas. I was not gonna vote for it over Christmas vacation, but I just felt like it needed its definitely and its time and insight. You know what I mean? Alright, so here we go. Number one, the Santa Claus versus number nine, a Christmas story.

SPEAKER_05 50:47

Santa Claus, of course.

SPEAKER_02 50:48

Oh let me do a recapital quest. Okay, so next round. We've got the Santa Claus Hold on. We've got the Santa Claus going versus a Christmas story. We've got the Polar Express, number five, Polar Express versus number four, elf. Number six, a Muppet Christmas Carol versus number three, the Grinch, the live action one. And then number ten, it's a wonderful life versus number two, a National Lanton, National Lampoon Christmas Vacation. So next next round, the one that we're gonna talk about is number one, the Santa Claus versus number nine, a Christmas story.

SPEAKER_04 51:19

Santa Claus. F the Christmas story.

SPEAKER_01 51:24

Really?

SPEAKER_04 51:24

I'm dead serious.

SPEAKER_01 51:26

I mean the low-key racism, you know.

SPEAKER_04 51:28

I'm dead serious. The low key racism. I'm dead serious.

SPEAKER_05 51:31

F the Christmas story. It's a white American Christmas story. Wow. And it's not even that funny. Wow. It's not.

SPEAKER_01 51:40

I mean, they edited out the Chinese restaurant. What do you mean? It's not even that funny. Yeah, they don't have the part where they're singing the Christmas carols.

SPEAKER_05 51:47

The only reason they actually watched it.

SPEAKER_01 51:49

Oh, they don't? Yeah, they they edited that out. They won't show it on TV. In retrospect, it is kind of racist.

SPEAKER_05 51:53

Yeah, the only reason they watched that. Not kind of, it is super racist now that it's. It's nostalgic.

SPEAKER_02 51:57

It was the 1940s in the movie. Yeah. But it was and the movie was and the movie was made in the 80s. 80s, yes. Yes, it was made in the 80s. Set in the 40s, made in the 80s. There's bound to be some racist stuff. There's probably some super sexist stuff in there too.

SPEAKER_05 52:12

Nostalgic for people that was born.

SPEAKER_02 52:13

Actually, how is TBS not cancelled yet for showing it?

SPEAKER_01 52:17

Tell me about it. The nostalgia of the Christmas story? There you go.

SPEAKER_02 52:21

No.

SPEAKER_01 52:22

Outweighs it.

SPEAKER_02 52:24

I want. Are you guys not going to defend the Santa Claus, though? Give me a reason why the Santa Claus is. Do we have to?

SPEAKER_05 52:29

Do we have to? We already defended Santa Claus in the previous round. Yeah, I think it's number one. It's number one. It's number one. Are you serious?

SPEAKER_02 52:38

It's the best. But why do but why do plants need water?

SPEAKER_05 52:42

Literally. I would choose the map.

SPEAKER_02 52:43

But why do they like because Mondo's Tim Allen? Because Mondo's got electrolytes. I'll choose Tim. Yeah, but what are electrolytes?

SPEAKER_05 52:48

Over over cocaine. And being in an electrical. I will say this for the Christmas story.

SPEAKER_01 52:52

Than anything. Yeah. The Christmas story Christmas. The sequel on HBO. Yes. Not an endorsement on HBO. I love HBO. It is a really well done movie. Can I tell you guys something? They brought back the whole the whole cast. Is it a movie or a TV show? I thought it was a TV show. I thought it was a TV show. The Christmas story Christmas.

SPEAKER_02 53:14

Oh, the Christmas story Christmas. That's right. Oh, that was a movie. To the Christmas story. Alright, alright. So here's the thing. I just want I when I said I love HBO, I just want you guys to know when I was younger, when I was like a teenager, right? Yeah, we know what you're doing. No, no, no. There's two things. There's two things that I've got to do.

SPEAKER_05 53:29

Confessions of taxi.

SPEAKER_02 53:31

No, this is two things I there's two things I always there's two things I always said to like myself when I became an adult. There's two things that I would have, and that's vanilla ice cream in my freezer and HBO. And I want you guys to both know there's vanilla ice cream in my freezer right now, and I do have access to H and I do have an HBO account. And that's a little promise. It's a little promise I made to myself when I was younger, and when I got to the age where I'm like, you know what? I I know I'll at least have 10 bucks in my account, at least $10 in my account every month. Let me ask you something. And I'm gonna I got an HBO and I got HBO and I got vanilla ice cream, and I am I feel like I made it. Honestly, it was like one of the first things. There really is the little things in life. What's up?

SPEAKER_05 54:12

Let me ask you something. Um how much was your mama um cable cable bill? How much is my cable bill? No, how much was your mother's cable bill when you were a kid? I don't know. We didn't have HBO. Are you sure?

SPEAKER_02 54:23

I don't yeah, we didn't HBO.

SPEAKER_05 54:24

Are you sure?

SPEAKER_02 54:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 54:26

Uh because I want to know how much pay-per-view we were watching.

SPEAKER_02 54:29

No, oh my god, no, we never watched pay-per-view. Pay-per-view was expensive. Yeah, what? God forbid if you accidentally hit it. Are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_01 54:36

God forbid if you accidentally hit the video. I didn't review.

SPEAKER_02 54:38

Listen, what? Again, I don't know how many tell you, I wasn't the rebellious one. I didn't rebel. Are you kidding me? I would never. I was worried about taxes, man. What do you I would never I don't know what part of I've been forty five?

SPEAKER_01 54:55

If you buy these pants, we can deduct them on our next year's taxes.

SPEAKER_02 54:58

I don't know what part of I've been 45 since I was 10. Do you not understand? What are you not grasping here?

SPEAKER_01 55:06

I had a feel for them. I mean, like what are you not?

SPEAKER_02 55:10

What are you doing?

SPEAKER_05 55:11

So you 75 right now?

SPEAKER_02 55:12

I'm 75 years old. I'm a stuff. Yeah, I just went on a cruise. I spent I spent all day shuffleboard and reading. And shuffleboard. We did play shuffleboard. I played shuffleboard and tequila. I read I drank a tequila. I drank in my I drank in my little chair. I had I had pina colatis and I read an I read a biography. I had pina colottas and I read a biography about Aaron Burr.

SPEAKER_01 55:35

Oh my god. Oh my god. That's what I did. Aaron Burr. Aaron Burr.

SPEAKER_02 55:39

I read a biography on Aaron Burr, drank pina colatus, and I got a and I and I sat and I sat in a chair and I was played shovel boards. Did you have dinner at 4 o'clock? I did. Well we had dinner at 5 30. 5 30? That's pretty clear. That's still pretty early.

SPEAKER_05 55:53

Every cruise is six o'clock. No. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 55:56

No, we we didn't my time down. We did a 645. Our reservations are at 645.

SPEAKER_05 56:01

Oh, so you don't do the family thing?

SPEAKER_02 56:03

No. It was only Ruthie. The group? Yeah, it was only Ruthie and me. So we do it, we had a little two-top. It was just two of us. Okay. But yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:10

I feel so bad for Ruthie.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

Why?

SPEAKER_05 56:13

She gotta deal with a simple fan.

SPEAKER_02 56:15

Yeah, I'm not. It doesn't take much to make me happy, man. I'm a pretty simple guy.

SPEAKER_01 56:20

How boring. And vanilla. When I'm old enough, I can buy any ice cream I want. And it's gonna be vanilla.

SPEAKER_05 56:29

The only Latino side he got is tequila, but he don't even think.

SPEAKER_01 56:32

I don't even think you know.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

You know, I'm not gonna lie, I don't know how excited I am about this running, this running joke of me being an old man. I'm not really sure how much I really like this.

SPEAKER_01 56:46

But it is what it is. Ladies and gentlemen, before the show, he did offer us a hard candy out of his pocket.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

You know, I do keep butterscotch in my truck, right?

SPEAKER_05 56:53

I was just about to say that. I was just about to say that.

SPEAKER_02 56:56

Honestly, and I had one the other day too because I was like, actually, dude.

SPEAKER_05 56:59

Do you know we went through the store and he got excited about butterscotch in Harriser? I was there. You were. You were, you were, you were.

SPEAKER_01 57:07

And he was complaining because the the ranch was at a different spot than the normally. Why did they move this over here? Alright, number how old are you again? Alright, so how old are you again? I'm 33. He was counting the he he he had he was making sure he was counting the coupons.

SPEAKER_04 57:27

I ain't gonna lie to you. I think he got each pill for every day of the week. Sit on your dresser.

SPEAKER_02 57:35

I do not have a pill. Actually, we do have a video. That's roofie's though, it's not mine. You know what? I don't have to I don't have to do it.

unknown 57:48

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 57:49

Alright. So we're going with the Santa Claus.

SPEAKER_05 57:52

Hey, you got a chair in your bathtub?

SPEAKER_01 57:54

No, we do not have a chair in our bathtub. Thank God. But the way he said that, he was like, man, that is a really good idea.

SPEAKER_02 58:02

Alright. Here we go. Number five, the Polar Express versus number four elf. Who wants to leave this one off? Would.

SPEAKER_05 58:11

I'm not gonna front.

SPEAKER_02 58:13

Please don't. Please don't front.

SPEAKER_05 58:16

Oh, please don't front.

SPEAKER_02 58:18

Please don't front.

SPEAKER_05 58:18

Oh my god. Please don't front. Why did I say it like that? Yeah, why are you gonna say it like that? Say what you're gonna say. Say what you're gonna say. Oh, he's mad for real. I'm not mad. I'm just trying to. Alright, alright, so look. Um I love the movie Polaris Russ. I really do. Okay. Um I know most people would be mad at me if I choose against the elf. Yeah. Because they think elf is an amazing Christian movie. Superior movie. Yeah, they really do. They really do. They think it's an amazing movie. But I will go with Polaris Russ.

SPEAKER_02 59:01

I so the one thing about Polaris Russ I don't like the faces.

SPEAKER_01 59:07

The dead eyes.

SPEAKER_02 59:08

The dead eyes. They are so weird. When they I'm cool with them, like the action scenes and everything's falling around, but when they zoom in on the faces, they they they look like the expressions are mechanical almost, and it's like they try to be human-like, but they succeed and fail, and it's terrifying. It's scary. Like I'd be perfectly happy if they just didn't have faces almost. Let me ask you. Like it weirds me out. Um Elf, Elf, like we said, prime Will Farrell. Let me ask you.

SPEAKER_05 59:45

What has a better storyline? Polish Riz or the Elf? Elf. How?

SPEAKER_01 59:51

I think they're about the same. No. They're about the same. No. It's all about getting to believe in Christmas again. No, it's not. Not with elf. I'm sorry. Whose r uh sleigh was uh down in Central Park? And could not fly. Is your elf that tall? And could not fly because there wasn't another six feet five?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:14

Dude, buddy, buddy wrote a book. Bestseller. Got married, has a kid. Right, helps Walter out.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:23

Is Joe Elf six feet five? Oh, what's his name? Just died too. The the the guy who played the father.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:29

Janet James Cannon.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:30

Yeah, he died this year.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:32

Did he really? Yeah. No. Did he really?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:37

Yeah. So in honor of him, I'm gonna I'm gonna choose Elf. He did, he did die this year. That's it. I'm gonna choose him. What else is he?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:46

He's the godfather.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:49

So I'm just losing all around this round.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:51

Honestly, maybe if you just pick better movies, we wouldn't have this problem. Yeah, I said what I said. You're gonna come at me, I'm gonna come at you. Yeah, I'm a little mad. I'm a little mad. I'm a little upset. I'm a little upset.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:07

I wasn't the only one that was laughing at you.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:08

I know, I know, but right now you're just gonna be.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:10

So so so you just look at it.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:11

Don't don't make don't be like that. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say it's prime, it's prime Will Farrell. I think it's got a great uh it's got a great story. It's not I will say this, it's not one of my favorite movies. It's not one of my favorite movies. Sorry. It's not, I'm gonna I'm not gonna lie, it's not one of my favorite movies. Um not a big fan of it. Um, but it is better than the Polar Express. Like if I had to sit down and watch one or the other, I'm gonna I'm gonna watch Elf. Like given the option. I can see that. There's a reason, I mean, you think it elf's ranked Elf's ranked number four, Polar Express is ranked number five. There's a reason why they're so close. It's not like it's a bad matchup. I mean, it's it's it's one of those things where given the opportunity, I'm just gonna watch elf. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:50

I can see that.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:51

Yeah. Alright, here we go. Number six, a Christmas Carol versus number three, the Grinch.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:57

Christmas Carol.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:02

Michael Cain. Wood, your eyes your your eyes say something different.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:05

Michael Cain. Who probably was the best Alfred.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:08

Wood, would you like to defend the Grinch? Are you so legendary? Michael Cain. Michael Crack. You defended my Muppets.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:16

I'm ugly as my Muppets. I'm Michael Crack.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:19

The Muppets. You defending those ugly ass muppets? They're American classes? I'm picking the American classic over uh Canadian. Michael Cr. Guess what?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:31

I'm picking the American icons over the Canadian icon, yeah. Wow. I said what I said. Wow. We're about to get canceled for real.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:40

Why we about to get cancelled?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:43

Because I picked the American over Canadian.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:45

I don't understand what the problem is.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:47

Are you too?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:47

Now I can you defend the Grinch? Defend the Grinch. Defend the Grinch.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:53

As I said, um Jim Carrey has been the best actor and best funniest actor that we have ever watched. And yes, yes, he is. Yes he is.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:07

The funniest? Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:11

I said the one of the best funniest actors. Yeah, you said the best. Alright, let me change that up then. One of the funniest actors that we ever we ever have watched. Okay. Alright. So if you've never seen In Living Color, uh this isn't about Living Color. This is about Living Color. This isn't about Jimmy. This isn't about the Jim Carrey. I'm just talking about this isn't about Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm just talking about Jim Carrey. That's a hell of a good movie. It is. It's a hell of a good movie. But the Grinch movie. The Grinch is not pink everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:46

The Grinch is not pink Jim Carrey. Nope. It's actually on the downfall.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:51

How?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:51

I'm gonna say that I'm gonna say this. It's on the downtrend. No, it's not. No, it's not.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:56

Everybody watches the Grinch when it comes to everybody watches the Grinch when it comes to Christmas time. Everybody. I do not.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:02

So one of Christmas Carol is based on a Charles Dick novel. You don't even watch the Muppets.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:06

It's based on a Charles Dickens novel. I have to watch the Muppets Christmas Christmas Carol every year.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:10

Have to. It's a great movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:13

For who? For myself. It is not Christmas that. When the last time you seen it.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:16

It is not.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:17

A week ago.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:19

It is about a week ago.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:21

The only reason you watch it is just for this podcast.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:24

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:24

Yes, you did.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:26

No, that's my wife.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:26

I watched it because we watched it in November and we watched.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:29

I love Em Up It's Christmas Carol. It is. I've said it once already today. It is one of my favorite. It's a wonderful movie. It is one of my favorite Christmas movies.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:40

So you you watching a long-nosed ferret. Gonzo. I said it. You watching a long-nosed ferret. Yeah. A creepy ass frog. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:52

A pig that over.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:56

A long-nosed ferret.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:59

Over? No, we're choosing it because of.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:02

No, a long-nosed ferret.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:04

A pig that Eric is attracted to. Hold on. You like you have a thing for Miss Piggy?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:10

I don't, but she is a strong independent woman. And I want to know why in 2022 are you afraid of a strong independent woman?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:19

Yeah, why are you afraid of a strong independent woman?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:21

Why would I be afraid of a strong independent woman?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:23

I don't know. You tell us. You tell us. Why are you hating on Miss Piggy? Ain't got nothing to do with a pig note. Yeah, she can, bro. She keeps a man in check. She got Kermicks happen.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:33

She what? She got the main one. She what?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:36

She kept her man in a check. She what? She don't keep a man in check. She's been chasing Kermit for keep that little green. She don't keep that little Kermit for a hundred years.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:44

Bro, it's it's it's pretty official.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:46

She's been chasing Kermit for a hundred years.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:48

Bro, it's like it's a thing. They got kids. Yeah. They got a little bit's name? They got little piglets little frogs.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:54

What's the kid's name? And the Christmas Carol. Thank you. Tiny Tim.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:58

Yeah, they got a little tiny Tim. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:00

John, you didn't even know that. Hush up.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:02

I've seen the Chris Carroll.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:04

You say you ain't know at first. And then he said Tiny and Tim. You was like, Yeah, Tiny and Tim. Yeah, no, you ain't know that. Thank you. Thank you. You ain't know that. What you mean I don't know that at all? You didn't know that.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:13

So John, what are you picking? Yeah, I'm picking a Chris Carroll. I'm not a Christian. It is. Hands down. It's a it's called Michael Markle Crane. Michael Crane. I'm Markle Crane. Alright, number 10, it's a wonderful life versus number two, Christmas Vacation. Alright, before we get into this, right? I got It's a Wonderful Life as far as I think I could. I gave it a great defense. And I know there's gonna be a couple of people that are gonna be like, how did It's a Wonderful Life get past Home Alone? Home Alone should be in the top four. If anything, it should be in the top two. For me, I understand that Home Alone ranked at a 10, ranked at a 10 seed, being a seven seed, is a great Cinderella story from the get-go. Unfortunately, I think the Cinderella story is gonna end at this moment. Um National Lampoon Christmas Vacation. I looked it up, I looked it up the other day, by the way. It came out December 1st, 1989. Right? So we were we were all three of us. We were just born. Just babies. Just born.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:16

Not John. John was already in.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:18

Hey, hey, look, John was born in the 60s.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:21

Anyways.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:23

John was doing taxes. He was doing taxes in the book.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:26

Anyways, mama's belly. National Lampoon Christmas vacation.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:29

Actually, he did taxes is and gave her the gave her the mindset. The write-out. The write-out is in her belly. They be like and say, hey, do you need to do this? You need to do that. And she was like, oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:42

Alright, well I'm done. I'm voting for I'm voting for National Lampers Vacation. Obviously, this this podcast this episode has made a turn. I'm voting for Christmas Vacation. I still think Wonderful Life. It's a Wonderful Life is a great Christmas movie. It is a great Christmas. Unfortunately, I think Christmas Vacation is better. It's a better Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:00

Like I said, I've never seen it. So I can't go. I'm voting against it just because it's I get I stand by my first argument is that I don't see how it's classified as a Christmas movie when the last 10 minutes and the topic of Christmas is not really addressed. Yeah, well, okay, okay, we'll just go with that.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:21

Like here we go. I just want you guys here's the final four, guys. Woo! The Santa Claus, and that's the one seed versus number four elf. So no upset no upsets coming out of the top bracket. Okay. The bottom bracket, number six of Christmas for Carol, versus number two National Antipoon Christmas Vacation. I think this is a final four. This is a solid final four. Great final four.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:43

This is a hell of a I don't think I go a Christmas season without watching all four of these movies. This is a hell of a four. 100%. Uh so we're gonna start off with the Santa Claus versus Elf. I'm gonna go ahead and go with the Santa Claus. I'm going with the Santa Claus again.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:59

I'm not gonna front you're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:00

I will say it does fall off. It does fall off by the third movie. But if you caught the recent series, I think it's rather nicely. It does so it does answer some uh loose ends and questions that you're like hey, what is this? It does, I think it it's been wrapped up pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:19

So here's here's the here's the big thing about uh the Santa Claus that I think we haven't addressed yet, and I think what makes it so great. When they get to the North Pole, the the scene and the imagery that the director and actors and cast and crew and the the the environment they create is so for lack of a better term, magical. Yeah, it is it sticks out like it's like there's hot chocolate. There's hot chocolate that comes out of the hot, ready for you at the perfect temperature. There is elves everywhere and they're and they're making toys and they're getting stuff done, and it's just it paints a picture. They painted such a good picture. It's yeah, and it's so realistic, it it absorbs you in, and it's one of those things where honestly, as an adult, as a kid, every time you watch it, you're still like you still almost you still feel the Christmas magic in it, and I think they did such a great job. So it was a is Are you defending?

SPEAKER_05 1:10:31

Hold on.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:31

No, I'm I feel like we we haven't gone we really haven't defended the Santa Claus well besides just we all lost.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:36

It's built off of mainstream business. I I I that's how I look at it. When okay, so say if you come into your office, right? Own this company, yeah, you have to oh my god, this person's coming in. Do this, do that. Do not disappoint this person. You cannot disappoint this person. Do this right, do that right. Make sure this person is taken care of. That's how that's how businesses are run.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:08

And that's how I see Santa Claus.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:11

And I'm not following.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:13

Okay, so look, so look. When he came in, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:16

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:17

Checkoff list. This is what this is what we done. This is what we did. Boom, boom, boom. This is your coffee. This is your hot chocolate.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:24

You mean like Bernard was checking everything off?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:26

Yes, he was checking everything else. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. He has an assistant in everything. Mainstream business.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:31

Okay, yeah. It's a mainstream business. It felt real. Like that's how you talk about it. It's a mainstream business. So you're saying like they did it to the point where like you felt like you could be in that world. Thank you. Like you could apply for a job as an intern in the world. Or not even apply.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:46

Like working working for Santa Claus somehow. Not even apply. Like, this is who you can be.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:52

Yeah, 100%. Absolutely. It was an achievable goal. Yeah, it's an achievable goal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:56

You can fall off Santa Claus can fall off the roof and become dead in the out of nowhere. You put on the suit and you like this is who I am. Watch the series.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:08

Watch the series.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:08

Oh, we gotta watch the series. You gotta watch the series. You gotta watch it. No, you gotta watch serious. Okay, I listen and again I gotta go home. I hate to say this. I'm I gave Elf a, I think, a really good defense last round. Not a big fan.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:20

I'm still not with the six foot four. It's good.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:24

But I think it got overplayed. Six foot four. It's so good that it got overplayed really fast, really quickly. I agree.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:30

I just can't get with a six foot four.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:31

So the Santa Claus. I think Elf's downfall was the streaming services.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:34

So here we go. Number six, a Muppet Christmas Carol versus number two National Lampu Christmas Vacation. This is honestly, this is the this is what I was by the way. Hey, shout out to a Christmas Carol coming in a six seed. Coming in a six seed, make it in the final four. Good, good arm. It's impressive. I always love Christmas. I'm not gonna lie, I always love seeing. Elf came in the four seed. Okay. I always love seeing uh seeing that happen. Um anybody want to defend either one of them?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:06

I'm gonna go with a Christmas Carol because I could watch it with my family. I can't really watch the vacation movie. Yeah, you can.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:18

No, you can. You can, but it's it's a beautiful movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:21

We watched it as kids. We did, but we also watched a lot of questionable things when we were kids. Yeah, what were our parents thinking? Hold on, were they even around? You know, like National Empire is a classic. It is a classic, but classically family friendly. I could watch it with the youngest of you know the nieces and nephews and kids to the oldest. I think it's an all-around movie. It's an all-around movie. They have movies, but they have movies that call all around theme.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:55

I'm not gonna lie, this was my one and two, partially. The Christmas vacation for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:00

The Christmas vacation movie. I think there's a there's a niche, there's a niche people who like it, and it's that it's the younger Gen X to the older millennial, I think, is like the biggest group where the Christmas Carol can appeal to all the groups. Because you know, the boomer can watch it, the Gen Xer can watch it, the Millennial can watch it, the Gen Zer can watch it, and now the Gen Alpha can watch it all together.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:30

Talking about the Mup of Christmas. The Mup Christmas?

SPEAKER_05 1:14:32

Yeah, no, no, just because they got old two old dudes speaking in their movies don't mean that that it's Gen X and this and that. No. You know the mupp is with the two other two old dudes always talking stuff, always talking all talking about.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:47

Yeah, they're ghost talking about they're ghosts in the movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:49

Always talking junk. No, no, no. No, they're ghosts in the movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:52

They're uh Scrooge, they're Scrooge's uh they're Scrooge's business partners.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:56

Yeah, no, no, this is not no. Just because you have those people in it, that doesn't mean it's all different generations. No, I'm I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:05

I mean it's a kid, it's a kid movie. It's kid friendly. That's what he's saying.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:09

But National Lampoon is a kid friendly movie. It is not a kid friendly movie. It is kid friendly. We watched it as kids, didn't we? Yeah, but it's hello, hello, we watched it as kids, didn't we?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:18

Yeah, but there's you know on the back and here's the thing. Looking back and watching it, it's like Cousin Eddie blowing up the ice clock.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:27

I shouldn't have watched that movie when I was five. I did, but I shouldn't have. Why did it scar you?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:34

No, I'm just thinking did it give you improper gods? Are you serious? Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:38

I'm just saying what did it do to you?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:41

What did it do to you? Who hurt you? Psychologically.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:44

Then what are you talking about? Where on this dog then what are you talking about? I wouldn't watch it. You wouldn't let your dog watch it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:51

Yeah, you wouldn't let your daughter watch it. Yeah. Right? So are you calling your parents bad parents for letting you watch it?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:55

I'm saying that standards back then aren't the same as you're protecting your daughter more. So no, you're trying to give your giving kids lead paint back in the 50s, doesn't make it the right thing to do now.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:08

So are you saying that every kid needs a trophy then for participating? No.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:13

So are you saying that you should have been genetics to do it to us?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:16

Are you sure to us?

SPEAKER_05 1:16:19

Are you saying not to give your kids internet now?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:21

Yeah. Sometimes, yeah. Yeah, when you take internet. I take YouTube away from my kid, her attitude improves tenfold. So yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:30

So I wouldn't say no social media. So you have no Wi-Fi.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:35

Oh, she's on Fifth. She's on Wi-Fi. But she's on social media. Let's go back to the point of U.S. parents, bad parents. But she's on parents. I don't know, because they you you're on social media, but you telling me you you went and grabbed that VHS and plugged it in yourself and they saw you watching it and they didn't care?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:52

No, I'm saying the standards are different nowadays. Softer? Softer. I grew up with my parents smoking in the car. Yeah, you can't do that now. Yeah, it's illegal. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Softer dude. So it's that it's completely different. So it's good for you.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:08

So it's a question. I got a question. What's are you okay? You survived? I'm fine. Thank you. Are you fine? Even with your parents smoking in the car?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:16

I am. Okay. Alright. But I don't there might be somebody who isn't. I don't know. What do I know? But what I'm saying is Honestly, that sounds like it's not be able to smoke in the car with your kids.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:26

You know what that sounds like to me? Yeah. I'm not gonna lie. You know what I'm saying? But what I'm saying is You know what that is? That's Uncle Sam trying to tell you how to raise your kids. Where does Uncle Sam get off trying to tell you how to raise your kids? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Giving you parental warnings on a video. Look, you know what? I I determine what is okay for my kids to watch. Thank you. Who are you? Who are you? Who is the government to tell you how to raise your kids? To raise your kids.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:49

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:49

You tell me that, Eric. But what I'm saying is No, what I'm saying is, where does the government get off telling you how you can raise your kids?

SPEAKER_05 1:17:54

Because that movie that we watch.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:56

But the government isn't saying, hey, don't watch, don't show your kids. That's not true.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:59

All right, well, let's say if it's red or lampoon when they went to Vegas.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:05

Yeah, what do they get off even recommending stuff for your kids?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:11

And he won all those uh Ferraris or Corvettes that that What? The National Lampoon when they went to Vegas?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:19

That's we're not we're we're talking about Christmas Fakes.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:20

Hold on, but but hold on. What about that? What about it? That when we went to Vegas and they won all he the the the young son that was 18 went to Vegas and won all those m all those cars for I thought it was 16.

unknown 1:18:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:35

Okay, tomorrow.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:36

Yeah. Yeah. Want all those cars to give to his parents.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:39

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:39

So are you saying we shouldn't watch that either?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:42

Are you saying What are you saying, Eric?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:45

That's what I'm saying. You shouldn't you saying we shouldn't watch that either? Are you saying what are you saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:49

Hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:50

Are you saying you want the government to raise your kid?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:52

Oh no, but let's just look it up. What you looking up, Jamie? It is. Jamie, what you looking up? Hold on. It is rated PG 13. Yeah. Right? Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:01

So you're saying your parents should have listened to the government. I want everyone to hear this. No, come on. Okay, so thank you. Wow. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:08

But anyway, it is rated PG 13. And what I'm saying is, is that I'm not letting my daughter watch a lot of PG-13 movies because she already says a lot of bad words because of the things that I do. So I don't need her to have the crude jokes go into school. Alright. So what you're saying is you're rather my daughter have crude jokes. What I'm saying is the Muppets Christmas Carol is more of a family-friendly movie for everyone. And that's what I'm going for.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:34

So I'd rather my daughter have crude jokes and me too.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:37

Mr. Wood, what's your what's your vote? National Lamp Bone. So it comes down to me.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:42

It does come down to you. So how how much do you really love musicals? I fucking hate musicals. How much do you love musicals, John? I hate musicals. You you have died on the musical hill. I love musicals. You do love musicals, and are you now musicals? And now you have an option. Now you have a chance a number six seed at Christmas in the final.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:05

So here's the thing, guys. You already know what's going to win it. Like I said, hold on. Time out. No, like I said, a Muppet Christmas Carol and National Improved Vacation were my one and two right off the bat. Um and I have to go with my heart here. And I'm gonna go with a Muppet's Christmas Carol. I'm sorry. I have to go with Muppet's Christmas Carol. I have to go with my heart.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:27

How many times I'm gonna lose.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:32

So here's this episode. How many times are we gonna lose? So we've got the Santa Claus and the one seed. Tim Allen. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:37

I'm not even arguing anything. Hey, at least your at least your mom's gonna talk to you because Elf is not gonna win. Yeah, I'm not even arguing.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:43

Versus number six, a Muppet Christmas Carol.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:45

That is a that is an awesome, awesome matchup. A number six versus a number one.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:51

I'm going with Santa. Alright, so here's the thing. Uh Muppet Christmas Carol for me. I'm voting Muppet Christmas Carl. Muppet Christmas Carol. I'm voting Muppet Christmas Carol with a Santa. I'm going with Santa Claus. I'm going with Santa.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:01

So this kind of makes it a boring one because there's no there's no defense to it now. It's already split, so it doesn't matter how I go. Yeah, there's what did you do? It's you two that gotta defend it. I can't I can't defend them. No.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:15

No, you have to vote now.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:17

Yeah, but who am I voting for? Explain your explain your vote. Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:20

Explain your vote.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:21

Explain your vote.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:22

I don't have a vote right now. What do you need to have a vote? I don't have a vote because I love them both equally.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:26

I what?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:28

I love both of these movies equally.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:30

Well, you have to make a decision. You have to make a decision. I'm not even arguing.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:33

Do you want to win?

SPEAKER_05 1:21:34

I'm not even. I've been losing this whole doggone game. I've been losing this whole dog this whole whole whole doggone game. I'm I'm not voting.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:44

That's not true. You got um a few of them in there.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:47

What I get. Thank you. Just say that one with a time.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:51

You got the Grinch, you got the Grinch uh look now. You know how I felt during uh the second round.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:55

You got the Grinch the second round. You talking about your musical boy music thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:00

You got the Grinch the second round, he was gonna vote for Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer, and we got the Grinch the second round. He won that one. Yeah, there you go. And you got uh And I brought up a great point, and then he was And you got uh and you got the Santa Claus to beat a Christmas story because I haven't voted for the Santa Claus. I'm gonna be I was gonna vote for a Christmas story of the Santa Claus.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:16

Yeah, but I was never gonna vote for a story.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:19

But I'm saying I don't know if he's you've got the Santa Claus all the way to the final. He's part of the winning team. I'm not a listen.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:25

So that was definitely a team effort. That was Eric.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:28

So really, it's your choice. I've I've laid out why I like them up at Christmas Carol. He's laid out we've laid out why we like the Santa Claus. Yeah. And to be honest, the world is the world is waiting for your explanation. I'm torn. Wow, why are you torn? Well, going. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:43

You know? I come from a broken household. Right?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:47

Oh, wow. Nobody needs to know that. Are you okay?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:49

Well, no, because it's Santa Claus. Right? It's a Charlie. It's a broken household.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:56

Is there something you guys hear that in your headphones?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:59

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:59

You don't hear that? What? I think it's the tiniest violin in the world. No one cares. No one cares your parents are the boys. It is part of my.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:08

Nobody cares. It is part of Welcome to My World. The nostalgia.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:12

Oh, my parents didn't love each other.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:15

Welcome to my world.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:17

Like, are you serious?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:19

I mean, never mind.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:20

Yeah. I wish you would say it. I wish you would.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:24

I'm gonna get a glass of milk after this. Are you gonna get a glass of mic? Oh, it's Christmas time.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:29

Get some cookies too. Matter of fact, you do have some. You may see. Anyways.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:34

Anyway, it's the nostalgia because I remember it came out around the time, you know, me spending every other Christmas with my parents, and I think it was around I I remember seeing that movie with my father, you know, Broken Household. It's that it's that uh it's that nostalgia. Yeah. So you watch it, you watch it, you remember those good memories that you're watching it with your head and everything like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:58

You know what, you know what really sucked about coming from a broken house though? Or sorry, having divorced parents, not a broken house, but a divorce parent. Was like having to leave halfway through one of the holidays to go to the other one's house.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:08

No, because my parents loved me enough to make sure I didn't have to do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:14

Such a dick.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:17

No, I would have just like When we were younger, they both spent Christmas together. You know when they were divorced? Yeah. That's weird. No, because they made it work for their children. Did it? Yeah. They were adults.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:28

I mean, my parents were adults too, but like I will say this, my my parents didn't ever let us say anything bad about like they never said anything bad about the other one in front of the other one.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:37

But anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:39

I'm just saying, I didn't I never really liked like having to go back and forth for holidays. So the Santa Claus. Stick me in one house, I'm fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:45

So the Santa Claus, yeah, I kind of associate with my father. Yeah. And I remember watching The Muppets Christmas Carol a lot when I was spending Christmas with my mom. Yeah. So you know, you kind of associate both of them. Okay. Right? So it's a hard choice. It's like who are you choosing?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:02

Who are you choosing? Your mom or your dad, Eric?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:05

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:05

Because I think they both listen, don't they?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:07

They do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:09

So you really backed yourself into a corner on this one.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:12

I did, and I'm sorry, mom. But I'm picking Samples.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:18

Mom. Oh man. That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:22

I appreciate that. Hey, uh finally one in the last round. Eric's mom, I want you to know that Eric loves his dad more than he loves you. Hopefully you don't feel too bad about it.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:32

But I do love you, Mom. I do love you.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:34

We love all the moms here. We love all the moms. We love all the moms. All the moms.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:37

I do love you, moms.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:38

All the moms. Obviously, but not Eric. Looks like the one seed woman. There's a reason again. There's a reason again why the one seed is the one seed, and yet in another episode in which the one seed takes it. Unfortunately, guys, there's hey, listen, there's a reason why we have this method. It's a very scientific method. Scientifically. And our pre-ranking, our pre-ranking power rankings obviously get the job done. But shout out to a Muppet Christmas girl coming in at the sixth seed. Look, you love to see it. Taking the scent. You love to see it. You love to see a Cinderella story. You love to see something. You love to honestly, I love when someone out of the top, out of the top four make it to the finals. That always makes me happy. I always love seeing it. One of these days I want to see a 16 seed make it to the finals. I don't think a 16 seed is ever going to make it. You know what? That moment a 16 seed is able to make it.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:25

It has to automatically win.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:27

If it happens, that would be a beautiful thing to see.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:31

What? A 16 seed? Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:33

That would be a beautiful thing to make it past the first round? No. To win the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:37

Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen. Are you sure? I don't think so. We've got well. We've got four more episodes in this season, so we'll see. We'll see how this goes. Everybody, thanks for uh thanks for listening again. Have a Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Uh we appreciate every one of y'all. You guys are enjoying. Give the family that you're with, give them a big hug and kiss, and uh have a good holidays. All right, have a Merry Christmas.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:03

Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Love y'all.