Supporting Black-Owned Businesses from Jump

In 2020 the Pew Research Center determined that although, Black people represented 14.2% of all Americans they are only 2.4% of all employer-firm owners. The Federal Reserve System’s 2021 Small Business Credit Survey (SBCS) revealed that the COVID-19 pandemic exacerbated the challenges that small businesses owned by people of color faced prior to the pandemic. 

Leslie and Angella are well aware of these disparities in Black business ownership and they have long been committed to supporting Black owned businesses with their patronage and recommendations.  In this episode of Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn they highlight a few of the products and owners whose products they utilize and support.

www.Harlemcandlecompany.com Harlem Candle Company is a luxury home fragrance brand specializing in scented candles inspired by the richness of Harlem. Founded in 2014 by travel and lifestyle expert Teri Johnson, the Harlem Candle Company is the manifestation of her love affair with fragrance, jazz, and Harlem.

https://www.instagram.com/_____komaribathbody347/.  Yolonda Berry, owner of Komari Bath & Body creates handmade & aromatherapy based soaps, body butters, body scrubs, lip balms, & hair care.

https://marche-rue-dix.myshopify.com/ A Brooklyn based Senegalese marketplace of sorts offering clothing and accessories, perfumes, a nail salon and a cafe. 

https://www.harlemsheaven.com/ Milliner Evetta Perry has over 30 years of designing gorgeous one-of-a-kind hats of all kinds for all occasions. Her designs are featured regularly on television and in national and international magazines.

https://www.oiawellness.com/home-fragrances  Oia Wellness is a Brooklyn based Black female owned line of small batch handmade home fragrances.

https://bklynbarsoap.com/  BklynBarSoap is a clean skincare + wellness brand that focuses on sensitive+ eczema +acne-prone skin.  Each product is handcrafted with responsibly sourced  all-natural ingredients with no preservatives and no unnatural additives.

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SPEAKER_03 0:02

Hey Les.

SPEAKER_02 0:04

Hey Ange. How are you? Doing well. We are back. We are back. Two different stages. And we're mid-season.

SPEAKER_03 0:13

We're yeah, we're well, we're between season. Mid mid is in the middle of a season.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 0:21

It's kind of like weekly, bi-weekly, and bi-weekly has two different meanings. Bi-weekly could either be every two weeks or twice in a week. Or twice in a week. I never understand those things. So I don't use it. Because it's better to say bi-monthly, I guess, than bi-weekly if you mean twice a month. I guess. Anyway, too much thinking. My head hurts.

SPEAKER_02 0:45

I know. I miss you already. You're gone. I miss you too.

SPEAKER_03 0:48

But we have to welcome.

unknown 0:50

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

I better learn how to face it. I was gonna pay the devil to replace her.

SPEAKER_03 0:58

You, you, you, well, you don't, you don't have to pay the devil. Just pay, just pay for my ticket. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:08

All right. We're happy. We're not together anymore, but here we are. We're back on Zoom and on video.

SPEAKER_03 1:16

It's still um uh welcome to another episode of Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn. Brooklyn. We're here. I promised I wasn't gonna just crack up laughing after saying that. And eventually I'm gonna stop saying that I'm not gonna crack up laughing.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

Brooklyn. I'm gonna say, like, no, that's all. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 1:38

That that that I will never do. I just am trying to control my laughter.

SPEAKER_04 1:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:43

Um, but yeah, it's it's good to be back. Um I just want to jump in because I just want to straight up call you a biter. Or let's say the Brooklyn way, you a biter. You were straight up stoned. Why am I biting? And people probably don't even know what that is. You biting, you're a bit copycat for it's a copycat, or in Jamaica we say follow fashion monkey, falla fashion monkey, never boil good soup. Fala fashion whatever. All right, what am I biting on? You're a copycat. So um when I was in Brooklyn, I was hanging out with my firstborn and their partner, and we went to we went a few places. We went to the Brooklyn Museum, they had a fabulous African fashion exhibit. Yes, it was just it took me so long to go through it because everything I had to read, the whole history about um Pan-Africanism and and how that changed fashion and all the things and learn stuff. I never knew like I didn't know that Marcus Garvey, the colors um that are dominant in definitely Jamaican flag, but also flags of um many African nations of 54. Um, many of them have the colors green, yellow, red, and black, or some combination. Maybe it's just correct. Um and it came from Marcus Garvey, which I never knew. Wow. I never knew. Anyway, so that was amazing. It was great. The weather was beautiful, it wasn't hot and and yucky, and um, I borrowed your car and it was great. We got a great place to park, and we just walked around Brooklyn, which was so great.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

So we uh I haven't done that in so long. Usually when I go to Brooklyn, it's like tour place and then back home to Jersey. I haven't walked around in a long time, but I gotta do that.

SPEAKER_03 3:52

It was it was so much fun, and we ate at this place called Islands, and the the um we were in Crown Heights, yeah. Yeah, it was Crown Heights. I wanted to give them a shout out because the food was good, but also the service was really good. Like um what type of restaurant? It was uh it was a Jamaican restaurant. I want to say it was a Caribbean restaurant, but just based on the menu, I think, or maybe I just beelined for the Jamaican food because I got curry goat. Yeah, I hadn't had it in a long time, and it was really, really good. But um uh um Kai's friend got uh roti skin. Oh and I was so tempted to eat it because it's so good, but it is the opposite of of low carb. Right, right. So they were dipping in my plate. I allowed them, of course, to get some gravy. And the waitress saw it and offered a bowl of gravy. Oh it was just it's just the little things. Yeah, it's just the little things. So that was really good. But then we went islands. This was islands in ground heights. Yes, really good. Um, and then and they made their their rice and peas with gungu peas, the real pigeon peas. Kidney beans are okay, but the real Jamaican rice and peas, notice I did not say peas and rice. Right, right. Um, that's a big fan. That's the American thing. It's it's not only, I think the other Caribbean islands say peas and rice too. But um, we we need to be different for some reason. Anyway, um, and then we walked to another place to get um coffee. We were waiting for you to get off work so as usual, we could time it and get back to have dinner with you. And so we stopped at this other place. Um, it's uh Senegalese um store. It has fashion and perfume and things like that. So we went in there and I tried on a few things, really nice. They had these amazing um sunshades, but I'm not there yet. I'm trying, I'm trying to go there, but you're in the shade. If I was with you, you would have got some shades. I know, I know. Okay, and so missed opportunity. But then we went next door um and they had coffee and um desserts and and food, but we had already eaten, so we just had coffee. Really delicious, but I didn't realize that the two stores were connected, um, meaning um under the same ownership, under the same name. One was a cafe and one was the the store. So you need to name mention the name. I'm gonna mention the name and I'm gonna tell them why you abide it. So the name of the place for the for the common folk.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

Let me just say you say it your way. I'm so American, uncultured, you know, just base.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

I said, okay. Marche Rudics.

SPEAKER_03 7:17

Right, okay.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

And when I heard you say the name, it was unintelligible to me. I'm like, oh, is that another one? Well, I only said for a year.

SPEAKER_03 7:30

I took French, I don't know enough to admit how long I took it, but I took French for seven years in junior high and in high school. And my sister still speaks French, but um all right, you say it. What's the name of the place? The name of the place is Marché Rudice, which means um uh 10th Street Market, and it's Senegalese, you know. They were they were colonized by the French. So French, I think, is still and it was like a marketplace, the the store. It has little all kinds of things, a little jewelry, they have a nail salon in the in the back. Um I mean, nails like not regular degler nails, like nails with with um uh ornaments and things. Ornaments and um and um jewels in them and things like that, metals in them. Right up Monet Valley. Exactly, exactly. Very well done, it's just you know, not our thing, but right. I'm not I'm more concerned. Very avant-garde and and nice. And as I said, they have fashion, but you know, I've been looking for a black-owned um perfume, a scent, my signature scent. A new signature scent. A new signature scent because the one that I'd had four years, like so many years that that's what my children and my uh husbands knew what to get me, that you know, it would it would win, right? So they got um they got uh um La Via Spell, it's a Lancome perfume, which I loved. But as it was kind of dwindling down, and I I tried other things because I knew I wanted a change, but I was looking for black-owned and they had this perfume I think they have like eight or ten different scents. I know we're gonna find out why you know that it was ten.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

I can't let you have anything outside of the thing.

SPEAKER_03 9:42

Let me have anything. They had this scent called cornrose. And it was a really nice scent. So I just wanted to be able to be in a situation where people said, Oh, I like your scent. What are you wearing? And to say corn rose. That's all that's all I wanted is to be able to say that. And um And it is a nice scent. Yeah, it is really nice. I didn't know if I wanted to commit to getting the full size, um, but I got the sample. And now tell me what tell me how you a stone cold biter. You're not even you're not even ashamed of it.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

I'm not ashamed at all. Why should I be? It's a public store. I got back, you know, I became a customer.

SPEAKER_03 10:33

I was wearing the scent, Tola is all about it, and then I got back the day after. She says I got your scent. I got your scent, plus seven others. She got all of them because there was one I didn't get.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

She was one that was sold out and one I didn't get because it didn't seem like it appealed to me. So I got eight of the trials, and I'll see which one I land on. And for the first time ever, I'll have a signature scent, maybe. It won't be mine. How do you know? Listen, don't pass. How will you ever know?

SPEAKER_03 11:15

You will I ever know because I'm gonna smell you, I'm gonna be okay. All right, just so you're gonna wait. You're gonna wait, you're gonna take a quick shower.

SPEAKER_01 11:25

But knowing you, you'll think it's your perfume. You'll think it's you that you smell, you'll never know.

SPEAKER_03 11:33

Wow, you must really say, okay. All right, that's okay. Yeah, it's so here's here's a couple things. So the I didn't want to commit is one reason, and the other reason, to be perfectly honest, is because the full size, which was um one uh what is it? It was a I think a 50 milliliter size.

SPEAKER_01 11:56

Good me.

SPEAKER_03 11:56

It was $88. So I'm like, oh eighty-eight dollars. I'll just try the sample. But I did my little research and I saw that um the same size of La Via's Bell was like 120.

SPEAKER_02 12:15

You know, I said that to someone just yesterday. I was talking to Eb, and what I said is that very often our price scale is a little off when it comes to black-owned products, yes, yes. We think that the prices are out of range or exorbitant or what have you, but some folks have absolutely no problem paying five grand for a handbag. Sure. But if the Senegalese brother with a beautiful leather work and what have you charged five thousand, no, I charges one thousand, charge five hundred. You know, we wouldn't look at it. We for some reason we think that our artisans and creators, right? You know, it's it's just so weird. It's it's so weird. So I like that you looked it up because this is something that you have you know purchased regularly over and over and over and over again. Because I remember when we were talking about this scent, and it's like $88. I don't know if I want to find it. It's like, come on, if it was yeah, Ralph Lawrence blue or exactly topaz. I used to wear.

SPEAKER_03 13:35

Right, right. Topaz, that's my dog's name. Um yeah, so um, so it's eighty-eight dollars. I'm definitely going online and ordering because it's a beautiful scent. I sprayed it on my on my um pillow last night because it was fading when I was getting into bed. I think I think I want to smell this as I as I lay down in bed, and it was it's really delicious. I I um we'll we'll put a link to the store. I don't remember what notes and things like that it has in it, but it's really a beautiful scent, and they have uh other options if this isn't the one for you. But I'm so looking forward to my next event. I may go and itch up onto somebody so they can smell me, so I can say, Oh, I'm wearing cornrows. I'm looking forward to that. Um, so again, that is Marshe Rudisse or Marche R-U-E-D-I-X Rudis. It's in Crown Heights um in Brooklyn. So check them out. So, anyway, that's what um was the impetus of the idea for us to do an episode on some, very few, because we're not doing a whole hour today, um, of our favorite black-owned items, products and uh things. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:03

So you mentioned the pillow spray that you that you created.

SPEAKER_03 15:09

Yep.

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So I want to point out a couple of uh beauty products that are um a few ladies that I met that make really beautiful special um body creams and room scents, right? So one of them is um Oya Wellness. O I A Wellness.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

Okay.

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She's uh Brooklyn-based entrepreneur, and they do um home scents and beautiful candles and things like that. In fact, I've been loving up this, it just happened to be uh this vermilion scent is something I have been um candle, I've been burning uh lately.

SPEAKER_03 16:03

You're such a candle person. You know I am. You're such a candle person. When we go to hotels, um, and you know, you can imagine Leslie picks out really nice um places for us to go. When I say nice, I mean um it's not it's not about the expense, it's about the experience. Yeah, yeah. And so they always have really nice smells, and so Leslie, if they have like a gift shop, she always gets a candle.

SPEAKER_02 16:36

That sent in the lobby.

SPEAKER_03 16:38

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 16:39

And then I'll get a few of them and give them as gifts or something to remember the trip or whatever. I did that with um one hotels I have here. Um rescue game when we were in South Carolina, which is a great one. So trying to save that a little bit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:00

But that one, that candle has very bad memories. We won't go into all the details right now. Maybe on Patreon I will be more comfortable telling the full story. Candle from Leslie, actually. Yeah, I tried to created some issues for me with the TSA.

SPEAKER_02 17:18

But anyway, so wellness is one of the um young ladies, um, the uh business owner that I met. Okay. And then with her was Brooklyn Bar Soap. Ah, you got one for me too. Yes, and she's another um African-American female. The two of them were together and they do a lot of their um products together. She sells luxurious creams and body oils and things like that. So I've been loving soaps. And soaps. I've been loving her um skin nourishing everything oil. I've used it on my hair and on skin. And after what does it smell like? This scent is the rosemary lavender. You know I'm a rosemary fan. Uh rosemary lavender. Um, so this is something I've been loving on lately.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

So, what do you do, Les, when so you put that scent on, probably in the shower, right? Or just out when you finish showering.

SPEAKER_02 18:20

And then I don't wear perfume.

SPEAKER_03 18:22

Okay, if you choose to wear that, I see. Okay, that's why I was gonna wear it.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

Got you, got you. Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_03 18:32

Um don't wanna you mentioned candles, and there is also another candle company that um oh we are loving this company. Oh my gosh. So last year, was it last year, Les, that I came?

SPEAKER_02 18:48

It was about a year or so ago.

SPEAKER_03 18:50

Okay, so I was in a really sad place. Um, just yeah, at the end of a of a the end of a romance, and Leslie treated me to this amazing New York experience. She didn't tell me what we were gonna be doing. It was a whole New York City weekend. She didn't tell me where we were gonna be going, but she knows me so well, and the Metropolitan Museum of Art had um an Afrofuturism exhibit, which if you know me, you know that that's my jam. That's my jam. And so we went to the exhibit, it just fed my soul, and they had um a gift, a gift shop as you walked out of the exhibit, and there we came to know Harlem Candle Company. Harlem Candle Company. Let me show you mine. I have mine too. This I think is my second or third one.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

Um, yeah, I'm a regular purchaser. Which one do you have? This is so this was a gift from my friend Ira.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

Um, it's called Essence of Angelica and Birchwood. Oh, what's the name of it though? They have these wonderful names. It's Vintage Garden. Oh, okay. It seems crooked. Harlem Candle Company. It's let me tell you, the other day I was doing some vacuuming. And you you you've heard in the last episode, um, Leslie and I talking about me just kind of elevating my experiences, just changed moving from the ordinary to the extraordinary. So I actually put on some heels, I lit this candle, and I vacuumed.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

That was it was so it was so elevating. It was so elevating. And and it could be the simplest things.

SPEAKER_03 21:08

Absolutely, you know, absolutely, yeah. I didn't I didn't I didn't want to vacuum that you just got, no, it was different heels. No, it was before it was before then, but I was here, I was wearing heels too, but uh, it was before then. That's nice. It was just it was fun. I laughed at myself, you know, that I was doing it, but yeah, it it moved from okay, this drudgery of having to to vacuum, yeah, and turned it into this little mini experience that I created for myself. I know, like remember we used to do that on um the weekends with the city.

SPEAKER_02 21:42

That's my candle I've been um loving. This was uh it's the scent for uh is Seneca, and that was the signature scent for the exhibit at the Met. But what I also love, one of my favorite scents is Lady Day. Oh, yes, I had that too. I think you got it for me. I did. I did. Yeah.

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And I just finished um I just finished working with uh Angela Robinson. Holiday. Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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So it was it was fitting.

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So what do you do what do you know about Seneca? What is that about? Do you remember Seneca Village?

SPEAKER_02 22:16

Seneca V Village.

SPEAKER_03 22:17

Yeah.

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The um African American community in Central Park.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

Before Central Park.

SPEAKER_02 22:25

Uh in what is now Central Park. Correct. And um I don't even remember the year, but it was in the probably the mid-1800s when they um removed the people from that community. Um and I'm not sure in what methods or what have you. Oh, can you guess?

SPEAKER_03 22:45

Did you think they asked you asked them to leave and they paid them? They paid them handsomely for their for their homes.

SPEAKER_04 22:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:53

Um yeah, they were they were kicked out so that Central Park could be could be built in other people, right? Right, right, exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 23:04

You know what else? What other scents? Um two other um sense and beauty um wellness skincare products. I want to mention one, you hit me to Tilted Crown products.

SPEAKER_03 23:17

Oh yes, they're so good.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

Yeah, I like it.

SPEAKER_03 23:22

Shout out to Rodney at Tilted Crown. Oh my gosh, yeah, his body butters.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

Those butters are just so luxurious. It's like it's like butter, simple things, like butter. It's the simple thing. The simple things, yeah. And then I also have to point out a personal um product that I've used over the years. My cousin, Yolanda, has a um company, it's called Komari. Spell it K O M A R I. Komari K with Omari. Komari Band and Body. And she has been an entrepreneur in this company years and years, well over 20 years, likely. Right. Um she was probably one of the first female entrepreneurs that I know of. I mean, she's been around for a long time selling these luxury um soaps and bath products.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

Right.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Um great, great stuff. So um again, I'm gonna put the link in because it's like when you use her bar soaps, not only are they presented beautifully, but great sense. It smells up the whole bathroom and things like that. And yeah, it's those kind of little experiences that you know, you you get in a bathtub uh or a shower like that, and then you're in a different mindset to go to work. Exactly. Because you have to shower anyway. If you can give yourself seven dollars, you know, seven dollars for one experience for a bar.

SPEAKER_03 24:59

For a bar, less what, a hundred washes, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

It's like a lot.

unknown 25:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

And if you wash once a week, it'll last you a lifetime.

SPEAKER_03 25:10

Uh, we're not um recommending that. We're just saying that's just uh a what if.

SPEAKER_02 25:16

And can I also mention um another um product line that I started using based on my niece's um a chama, Dr. Ose Tutu, the dermatologist. She recommended Epilogic, EPI L-O-G-I-C, their skincare products. Um this is one of the products that I use, their skin uh facial cleanser.

SPEAKER_04 25:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

And one would think that they're a little pricey. And I guess in some cases they are a little pricey. However, so many of these products, you use so little of them at a time that you know, if you use a pea size application for to wash your face per wash, you know, this thing can last a very long time. And again, if we start looking at some other products that we wouldn't balk about paying for, you know, then the scale in it becomes a lot more it's relative, you know. And I think it just makes a uh it it forces us to just change our mindset a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 26:28

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it's it's you would you would pay there's certain things you you invest in, right?

SPEAKER_02 26:35

Yeah, you you invest skin because 61-year-old skin. I think it's worth a little. I can step up from oil of Olay by now, right? I think I can.

SPEAKER_03 26:47

Remember when that was like or the great value products from Ormond. Oh my god, Leslie, not the great value products. You are so funny.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

Let me just tell you a funny thing. I um I had this 12 pack of Irish Spring. Irish Spring? Irish Spring soap. I thought you that's elitist, but I had this thing of Irish Spring, and I'm like, why is this here? I never use Irish Spring. Whatever.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

You can use it in your garden.

SPEAKER_02 27:24

It becomes I used it once and I felt like there was a cement of plaster. I felt that like there was plaster residue on my skin.

SPEAKER_04 27:37

I'm like, what is this?

SPEAKER_02 27:39

And then I remembered, I purchased it only as an insect repellent. I was planning to shave it into my outdoor plants.

SPEAKER_03 27:49

That's right, that's what it's for.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

But I wonder if it's used like that when it rains, when it rains, doesn't the soap get into the soil and damage the roots or anything?

SPEAKER_03 28:05

I would think that soap is well that's something to research, but you're not using tons of it.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

Yeah. Anyway, but I I don't think I'll be using it.

SPEAKER_03 28:15

Wait a minute, was was that a was that a little tributary you went on? I thought that was just no, it was more relevant.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

It was Iris Spring. We're talking about my stuff is relevant. My stuff is relevant. I almost made an expletive. My stuff is relevant.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

It's just ain't relevant. Ain't relevant at all. I humor you. I resemble that remark. Relevant? It's on the fringe. That's a bunch.

SPEAKER_03 28:48

Um, all right, so I'm gonna mention you got another product, and that is um Italian twine watches. This is mine. I'm so glad you thought about that. I know, I know, I can't turn it the other way. Uh-huh. This is mine.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_03 29:08

These beautiful time pieces. Purchase so many as gifts to my children, to my bestie, to my big brother. I got a nice blue one. It's a beautiful um uh time piece, and um they're um they're um are in the $150 and up range, absolutely worth it. These are beautiful, well-crafted quality time pieces, and the name Tally and Twine comes from um this intersection of this um what used to be a very depressed um uh crime-ridden area in Virginia. And it is now um, and so it was it was um a way to anchor the founders to their their why. And it's now a beautiful, revitalized, and hopefully that doesn't mean gentrified, but um revitalized community. And so it was um in homage, in homage to that intersection, Tally and twine, um, black-owned, they're beautiful, they have um leather, they have canvas, all different colors, they have a Juneteenth um style, they have um all of the colors for the um the um black Greek organizations. It's beautiful, and everyone that I've purchased, the recipient just loves them. And I actually will be treating myself the next time I treat myself, I'll be getting a new tally and twine timepiece. Let's see.

SPEAKER_02 30:56

I want to mention Harlem's heaven hat heaven hats.

SPEAKER_03 31:00

Oh, okay, go hats, nice.

SPEAKER_02 31:05

I wear such so many hats that I don't even they take up. I mean, you know, I have a closet room.

SPEAKER_03 31:14

You have a room, a cloud, a room that has become a closet, yes.

SPEAKER_02 31:18

So it takes up a lot of architecture in my room, several shelves of just piled up hats, and some of them are displayed and what have you, but many of them I've gotten at um Eveta Petty's has this shop, and it's more than just a shop, it's just Emporium, I call it. It's uh two or three rooms of just hats that she's created of all different styles.

SPEAKER_03 31:48

Wow, say her name again, Les. Say her name again.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

Peta. Okay, but Petty, excuse me, P-E-T-T-Y. But the shop, her pla her business is called Harlem's Heaven Hats. And she is huge in the millinery um community.

SPEAKER_04 32:07

Right.

SPEAKER_02 32:08

Her hats are featured in Vogue, in um Gigi Hadid, the model modeled one of her hats in Vogue. She's in Harper's Bazaar, and she's like all over the place doing fashion shows and whatever. So I got quite a few of her hats. In fact, our bestie logo, I'm wearing one of her hats.

SPEAKER_03 32:30

Ah the black hat. Right. I love that one. Yeah. The hi hat.

SPEAKER_02 32:37

Yeah, one of her creations.

SPEAKER_03 32:39

Oh my gosh, yeah. You have good um a good hat head, and you have a really um good hat fashion sense. I must say that.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

This brain stuff has to be covered properly.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

And I I should I should also say that when I used to make hats, you were such a fan of my hats too. Yeah, yeah. Yes, and I have several hats.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

You do.

SPEAKER_03 33:04

You're you're a hat person. You're a hat person. Like every woman.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

I know. You have hats, bags, clothing, wigs.

SPEAKER_03 33:15

We haven't mentioned any of your creations. But it's okay.

unknown 33:19

It's okay.

SPEAKER_03 33:19

Focus on it. Um, I'm a creative, I'm a maker. I am a maker.

SPEAKER_02 33:23

Anyone else you want to mention? I have something very special that I want to mention.

SPEAKER_03 33:27

Well, there's so many others, but I think that that's a good place to end for this episode because we're just um doing some mini episodes until we get into season four. And just a reminder: when you join our Patreon um uh subscription, you will be able to give us some feedback on what we should have or whom, or what discussions we should have, what topics in season four. So we're waiting to get a little bit more feedback on that, and we will um build out our next season based on the feedback from our um bestie quad squad. Bestie quad squad. I love that. I love how we created that together, Les. Um, so it's Patreon P-A-T-R-E-O-N slash bestie quad q-u-a-d, squad, s Q U A D to um become a subscriber. And we are already starting to load up content there that is exclusively for um people in the squad. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

And um I I just want to say that I'm not sure that people can access it that way. They might have to log into patreon.com generically and then do a search for bestie quad squad. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 34:55

How about we try it and see what works? You see what happens when you okay, and that's the way you did it?

SPEAKER_02 35:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:02

Because for me, since I um since I created, I don't get the same experience as other people.

SPEAKER_02 35:09

Right.

SPEAKER_03 35:10

And so it throws me off.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

That's why I've been so that's why I've tried it as an outsider.

SPEAKER_03 35:14

And um, so you go to patreon.com, p-a-t-r-e-o-n.com, and then in there you do a search for bestie quad squad. Yeah, got it locked and loaded. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

Thanks for listening. We're gonna put all of our product information that we've mentioned, and you guys, I want to hear what you think about some of these things. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 35:39

And and tell them that tell them that we sent you. Tell them that we sent you. By the way, none of this is um affiliated. We're not affiliated, we don't get any um any um uh sponsor or sponsorship from these places. These are kickbacks, no kickbacks, no nothing. These are just um uh black-owned products that we have enjoyed, and we do make it a point to support black-owned businesses. And so we just wanted to share some of the um just a small amount of the bounty and a small amount of the um the companies that we've had really, really um good experiences with, and we hope that you give them a try and and um love them as much as we do.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

All right, in another episode of Black Boomer Bestes from Brooklyn, Brooklyn Brooklyn.