Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn

What To Do Between 60 and Death

April 02, 2024 Angella Fraser & Leslie Osei-Tutu Season 7 Episode 4
What To Do Between 60 and Death
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Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn
What To Do Between 60 and Death
Apr 02, 2024 Season 7 Episode 4
Angella Fraser & Leslie Osei-Tutu

This episode was triggered by a post on social media entitled: For those who are 60 yrs and above, please read this. How could The Besties resist?

Ever wondered when's the perfect time to tap into those savings you've been squirreling away for the so-called 'golden years'?  But wait! The Besties aren’t even in agreement that the early 60s are yet golden. Nonetheless, this episode might just solve the mystery of whether that new car smell is really worth the withdrawal from your retirement account.


Angella and Leslie discuss some of the other pearls gleaned from the piece so listen in for a shot of camaraderie and make sure you keep your health game strong, no matter what chapter of life you're jumping through.

This episode and all previous episodes are available on The Besties’ YouTube. Please join our Besties Quad Squad as a Patreon subscriber at the $5 or $10 monthly level. You'll receive exclusive behind-the-scenes content.

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This episode was triggered by a post on social media entitled: For those who are 60 yrs and above, please read this. How could The Besties resist?

Ever wondered when's the perfect time to tap into those savings you've been squirreling away for the so-called 'golden years'?  But wait! The Besties aren’t even in agreement that the early 60s are yet golden. Nonetheless, this episode might just solve the mystery of whether that new car smell is really worth the withdrawal from your retirement account.


Angella and Leslie discuss some of the other pearls gleaned from the piece so listen in for a shot of camaraderie and make sure you keep your health game strong, no matter what chapter of life you're jumping through.

This episode and all previous episodes are available on The Besties’ YouTube. Please join our Besties Quad Squad as a Patreon subscriber at the $5 or $10 monthly level. You'll receive exclusive behind-the-scenes content.

Support the Show.

Visit Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn website for behind-the-scenes extras.

Speaker 1:

you know, that's something when we start out laughing. Oh my goodness, hello and hey lads, how are you? And then I do my dance. You do see, I don't even have to say these days, welcome to another episode of black boomer Besties from Brooklyn.

Speaker 2:

Yes, you do.

Speaker 1:

Because all I need to do is go this and then I start dancing and then they're like oh, I know who it is, How's it going.

Speaker 2:

It's going pretty amazing. It's going pretty amazing. My warranty on my car is being very good to me. Oh, very, very good to me. Good, so my baby's being serviced right now, good Overnight, and I expect to be a demon on the road tomorrow, because everything's going to be on like amazing.

Speaker 1:

Stay tuned for the next episode of Black Boer besties. That shows angie in jail with the car impounded why are you gonna put that out in? The universe okay wait, wait, let me say my brooklyn, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why you to put that out in the universe. That's nice background. Thank you this is not new and I noticed from the last episode that we both have like an orange stripe on our left side.

Speaker 2:

Oh, look at that.

Speaker 1:

Twinsies.

Speaker 2:

Twinsies comma, again unplanned, but here we are.

Speaker 1:

So you have an interesting assignment for me this week or for this episode. Let's talk about that.

Speaker 2:

I do so. I saw something that a friend on Facebook posted. His name is Troy Kirshner, and shout out to Troy because he posts some really interesting stuff. Okay, hi, troy, he posts some really interesting stuff. Hi, troy, a former New Yorker, I mean, yes, a former New Yorker, and hey, teresa, his lovely wife. And he posted something and I was reading it. First of all, the title of it caught my attention. Of course, the title of it is For those who are 60 years old and above. Please read this. And since I'm 59, I said let me just prepare.

Speaker 1:

It didn't say all liars. Read this.

Speaker 2:

I said let me prepare for when I turn one of the elders, I turn eventually at some point.

Speaker 1:

60, right Right, exactly Right right right, right, right, Exactly.

Speaker 2:

So I said, Les, what do you think? And then I looked at it and I'm like yeah, that's good. Okay, so, as you have come to know, there is going to be stuff that Leslie and I disagree on, probably because we didn't go through the list together. Probably definitely some things on this list that I don't agree with, so we'd love to hear what you have to say about it, of course. Comment do all the things. Do all the things.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

So it starts out for those who are 60 years old and above, please read this. This is for you. I really like what I said here. I'm gonna try my best.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, let me just start with, because I don't know what that's all about um no, that's troy leaving the message he says I really like what is said here no, this is someone else, sorry, no, no, no, troy sent the message, but that lead-in was by someone else.

Speaker 2:

Sorry, no. No, no, troy sent the message, but that lead-in was by someone else who I don't know, so I'm not going to read what he said. I'll just read the list.

Speaker 1:

Go right into number one.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so he starts with between 60 and death. It's time to use the money. That's us. That's us. It's time to use the money Well, even that it's like to use the money well, even that it's like man.

Speaker 1:

this is the category 60 and death. There's nothing. There's not like 60 to 65, is you know when you?

Speaker 2:

you know, when you track up on the groupings that are in a lot of the pull downs, you know you go from whatever 25 to 30 and then whatever when I ticked over into damn damn Anyway, between 60 and death. It's time to use the money you saved up. Use it and enjoy it. Don't just keep it for those who may have no notion of the sacrifices you made to get it. Remember there is nothing more dangerous than a son or daughter-in-law with big ideas for your hard-earned capital.

Speaker 1:

I thought that was cute. You know what? Here's an interesting take on how we can talk about these things. Remember the game? Are you Trippin'? Yes, tripping, yes, yes, yes, yes, let's turn this into an. Are you tripping, sure?

Speaker 2:

are you tripping? Is he tripping so?

Speaker 1:

I wrote next to that one a maybe, maybe I agree with it, because he starts out in the age group of 60. I'm 62., so I'm not. We could live until we're 90. There could be a 30-year gap in between age 60 and death. That could be 30 years Well, it could be longer than 30 years Well, it could be longer than 30 years. Well, it could be, but I'm saying 90 conservatively.

Speaker 2:

Like okay, well, put that word in there. I'm saying whatever.

Speaker 1:

But I'm saying if you have to, if he's advising you to use the money now at 60 that you've saved up over the 60 years, you can have another quarter of your life left. Another 30 years. Let's just say that's true and that's a long time to be spending money. You know you could use up money you've saved until age 66, you know you could use up money you've saved until age 66. And then you're going to have a long, lean octogenarian and nonagenarian life, eating cat food, I think.

Speaker 2:

well, this is where I would bring it.

Speaker 1:

It depends on where you're living and how you're living. Yeah, Exactly.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, but in general.

Speaker 1:

But use the money. You know it's time to use the money you saved up. It sounds a little like kind of go and start enjoying and splurging on yourself and stuff and in my opinion 60 is a little young to start splurging on your money, and it also depends on whether you're working or not.

Speaker 2:

I'm still working Right, as am I. So what I'm hearing is that this should really be for 75 and older. Is that what I'm?

Speaker 1:

hearing For sure, yeah, I think. So what do you think?

Speaker 2:

I think the tone of it I more agree with than not. Of course, all of the cautions around managing your money well um responsible with it, but I like the tone of the um enjoying this is. This is the time yeah, enjoying your life.

Speaker 1:

I think I like the spirit of it. I like the spirit of it. Shall we move on? You read the next, I'll take the next one. I'll take the next one. It says warning this is also a bad time for investments. Even if it seems wonderful or foolproof, they only bring problems and worries. This is a time for you to enjoy some peace and quiet. He's tripping. He's tripping. What?

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, what do you have turned on that's?

Speaker 1:

because you're on that.

Speaker 2:

Mac.

Speaker 1:

I thought that my ring light went out. My new ring light went out again when it got dark. Oh, this is, let me I got to do that again I think he's tripping. It's not going to do it.

Speaker 2:

It just did it one time, that's so it's not annoying, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:

I loved it, though that's so, it's not annoying. I can't wait to do some other stuff to see what comes up, but anyway, it is absolutely not a bad time for investments. Again, you think of investments in terms of your risk tolerance and how much time you have for your investments to grow Right. And again, if you might live for another 20 or 30 years, you absolutely want to have some of your money growing, and I'm not saying that it all has to be a stock equity portfolio completely, but that's not true.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I mean I don't agree with it. I don't agree with that either, and you could have your money, making money right now in a very your money making money right now in a very a relatively safe way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and right now the market is doing great, you know that's right if it depends on your horizon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I, I I'm agreeing with you on that one, okay all right, so he's tripping on that.

Speaker 1:

He's tripping, he's tripping, he's all the way. Let's skip one and get to the one after that.

Speaker 2:

Okay. The next one is keep a healthy life without great physical effort. Do moderate. Do moderate exercise, like walking every day, eat well and get your sleep. It's easy to become sick and it gets harder to remain healthy. That is why you need to keep yourself in good shape and be aware of your medical and physical needs. Keep in touch with your doctor. Do tests even when you're feeling well and stay informed. What say you Doc?

Speaker 1:

Hmm, thumbs up, double thumbs up. I tell you, this AI stuff is amazing, you're five years old yeah.

Speaker 1:

I absolutely agree with that. It is easy to get sick because with older age comes changes in your immune system and changes in your physical activity, changes in your ability and your mobility and what have you, so you do, whereas younger people didn't need as much effort to stay physically fit, even with slower metabolism that comes along with aging. We have to be a little bit more mindful. You know, I think it can be counterintuitive because people who are older and are retired, they kind of want to relax and kind of enjoy, you know, either meals eating or rest and things like that. But I think that it's a good time to bring some balance in and pay a little bit more attention to our health needs.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So are you going to say comma, like I do, or are?

Speaker 1:

you going to say Like I'm saying it's a good idea to do as I say, not as I do, and the other thing that is not mentioned, but I'm going to just talk about it as often as I can. Sleep is really, really, really important, and as we get older, our sleep requirements decrease a little bit. We typically don't need as much sleep as we did as younger people, but we do still need good, restful, regular sleep. But we do still need good, restful, regular sleep. Right and irregular sleep hours is, believe it or not, is a number one cause of morbidity or illness that people are unaware of.

Speaker 2:

No, leslie. Well, we talked about it in previous episodes, I know, but you need to say that again because it didn't hit me like that.

Speaker 1:

Well, so what I mean to say is that sleep is a time of restoration in your body, I see, and self-turnover, and things like that, even on a very micro level, right? So when?

Speaker 2:

we don't get enough, and a clearing of the brain too.

Speaker 1:

And yeah yeah, so it's just very important. So I know people that they don't really brag but they are kind of proud of oh, I don't need a lot of sleep. You may feel rested without a lot of sleep, but your body and your cells need rest in that period for optimal health.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'll say. You can't cheat them huh, no, you can't.

Speaker 1:

And there's no such thing as catching up to lost sleep either.

Speaker 2:

So I'm going to tell everybody something. So I started this practice. I added it to tell everybody something. So I started this practice, I added it to my morning routine and that is doing these movements that is supposed to really help your lymphatic system. And I sent it to one of our friend groups and Leslie just says interesting. That's all she said, because I said, hey, you guys want to do this for 30 days. Interesting.

Speaker 1:

I know what that means. That means this is quack.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to hear nothing about it, but quackery.

Speaker 1:

I did not say that you didn't have to say it.

Speaker 2:

You didn't have to say it. All I heard was interesting.

Speaker 1:

I noticed you didn't talk about it.

Speaker 2:

It wasn't because it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't. Yeah, ange, let me check it out. It was interesting, so I understand what that means, but nonetheless, I am doing it and I am looking forward to, because the lymphatic system is just something that?

Speaker 1:

How's your lymph system doing sweetie?

Speaker 2:

I think it's doing quite well. Actually, he did say and we're going to put a link to it in our episode notes he is a physician and he's a chiropractor. He's a chiropractor, I don't. Okay, you, you tell me what, what the I know what the specialization is, but I anyway, anyway, even even more so, I think, because that's a specialization, I I would pay attention to it, but I no longer believe that to make significant change you have to do huge, overwhelming, difficult things. I think small changes can make a big difference.

Speaker 2:

And sometimes we don't believe that it's like eh, that doesn't work in 30 minutes, right, yeah, that's not enough for Right, and so I figure I would try it and see, because I took a health program with Rolanda Goodwin, who we had on our show, I think in season two, and she talks about the lymphatic system and she has a little mini trampoline that she uses and some of the stuff that he was doing was very similar to what she showed me. So I'm going to try it. Okay, but he did say that because it's a kind of it's a new thing that the body's getting used to and it's releasing toxins that you may feel like you're getting a little sick as it does its thing, and I've been getting some headaches, um, for the last few days, and that's the first thing I thought about. So I'm going to trust that that's what that is.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, so I'm doing that To be continued so we give it a thumbs up to keep healthy. Yes, we give that one a thumbs up Keep a healthy life as you get older. Right Next.

Speaker 2:

I like this one.

Speaker 1:

I like this next one.

Speaker 2:

Is it for me or you? I'll read one. I like this next one. Is it for me or you?

Speaker 1:

I'll read it Okay, always buy the best. When I first read it I thought they were speaking about yourself. I'm like darn Skippy, I'm buying the best for myself. And then I read it further. I still agree, though Always buy the best, most beautiful items for your significant other. Yes, the key goal is to enjoy your money with your partner. One day, one of you will miss the other and the money will not provide any comfort then. So enjoy it together.

Speaker 2:

I like that. Yes, I like that when I have a significant other of my own. I will ascribe to this Did you hear the thunder? Whoa Wow.

Speaker 1:

That's deep, that's scary.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's scary. Yes, that's scary. You're in Jersey, wow. Speaking of which, stick a pin there. Did you win? Did you win the jackpot? Are you now a billionaire?

Speaker 1:

tell me the truth if you didn't show up today, let me just tell you I will not be going to work for the rest of the week. I'm a full-time podcaster now From all over the world.

Speaker 2:

You're going to be in Bali, you should take a picture of the background so you can put that up and so everyone thinks you're in the same place.

Speaker 1:

Over a billionaire. A billion dollars was one 1.3, I think. But anywho, I didn't win that one. I'm going to win the mega millions.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that one is up there too, right? Anyway, let's get back, let's get back Focus.

Speaker 1:

Significant other and buying beautiful things for them so you can share your money together. I like that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think that's a good one, that's a goodie.

Speaker 1:

That's a thumbs up that is a goodie.

Speaker 2:

Thumbs up, thumbs up, okay, ooh, I like this one, this is huge.

Speaker 1:

This is my mantra for the rest of my life for real We'll see, I'll be checking on that.

Speaker 2:

Don't stress over the little things You've already overcome so much in life. You have good memories and bad ones, but the important thing is the present. Don't let the past drag you down and don't let the future frighten you. Feel good in the now. Small issues will soon be forgotten.

Speaker 1:

That's true, don't sweat the small stuff. And from that book it says and it's all small stuff. You know the book that don't sweat the small stuff.

Speaker 2:

and it's all the small stuff. Oh, got it yeah.

Speaker 1:

I kind of agree with that. We spend so, so much time worrying over things and one thing that I've always said to a few people in my life that are prone to worrying about things, especially like future things that are yet unknown If you look at the trajectory of your life, you've had a lot of good fortune in your life and awful things typically don't happen to you. So why do you harbor an expectation that awful things are in your future? You know the sum total of your life has been blessings and fortune and love and you know. So, um, why not continue to expect those things in your life, you know, and be ready for the stressful things that come? You know?

Speaker 2:

yes, and I also want to add that we're not talking about like toxic positivity like negative emotions should be suppressed, and negative emotions should you know it's. It's not that at all and you know my, my word of my life is is joy now. So this is not about everything is great. Things are falling all around you, but everything is wonderful. It's not that at all.

Speaker 1:

You should feel the feels, you should feel the feels right and the difficulty yeah.

Speaker 2:

But what? What is the but to that? But stay in the present and don't don't carry the suitcase of regret and all those things.

Speaker 1:

That's an interesting metaphor, don't carry the suitcase of that. I think what helps me in that regard also is that I look at all the difficulties and misfortunes in my life as life lessons and I carry those in the suitcase to inform me of possibilities and what I've learned and how far I've come and things like that.

Speaker 1:

You know, like you know, for example, with the family, illness and things like that you know, when you get to the other side of those issues, you realize oh man, you know, I've met some good people through it, great things have happened and et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, okay, all right all right I like it. Shall we move on?

Speaker 2:

you know I love a good cry. You know I love a good cleansing cry. Yeah, yeah, I like it. But um, yeah, my first ex-husband used to get real nervous after I would have a good cry because I would just feel so empowered because I just let all of it go. You know, a cleansing cry. Some people think that crying is weak. I just spoke to a friend the other day who's going through some stuff and she mentioned that she really doesn't allow herself to cry because she feels like if she starts she won't be able to stop.

Speaker 2:

And I'm like it's probably because you're holding it in that you feel like it's like a dam now, that you don't want to bust. But God gave us that ability to cry and to grieve and to let it out. It's not a matter of you're not hiding anything, you're just carrying it in your body. Do you know what I mean, if you're trying not to let these feelings out? Anyway we can move on, all right.

Speaker 1:

Off my soapbox, your turn. Here's one that I really liked. Be proud both inside and out. Don't stop going to your hair salon or barber. Do your nails, go to the dermatologist and the dentist. Keep your perfumes and creams well stocked. When you are well-maintained on the outside, it seeps in, making you feel proud and strong. Let's take the words off that a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Is that just being superficial though?

Speaker 1:

No, no, not at all. I think being superficial would be if you were doing it for other people's approvals. I think that when you wear quality clothing or when you present yourself the way that you want to and I'm not saying you have to wear makeup or whatever treat your skin well, continue to see a dermatologist, and things like that I think it's, um, it's almost like self-affirming um, I don't think it's superficial at all. I I tell the story of um many times I've mentioned how, when I used to take exams in medical school, I would make sure to dress up really nicely, you know, other than the typical classroom jeans attire, because you know it was a way to make myself, you know, lift myself up on an otherwise not so good experience.

Speaker 1:

When the exam is trying to pull you down, when I have to look at the back of the paper and say am I in the right class? That happened to me one time when the first four questions weren't recognizable. I'm like am I taking the correct exam? What room am I in?

Speaker 2:

She's a really good doctor, guys. She's a really really good doctor.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yes, so you were wondering if that was a little superficial. What do you think?

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, I just kind of was asking that devil's advocate, Because I mean, it doesn't have to be good quality clothing, to be honest. It just has to be something that you feel good in. It could be whatever quality you want, it has to be something that you, that you feel good in you're not going to wear clothes that feel like like um, um, sandpaper, whatever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you feel good and I have to have this um top. I haven't seen it in a while. I think it's in storage. That really inexpensive I I don't even know where I got it, but it has all these birds on it and whenever I wear it I would just feel really good. And so you know it doesn't have to be expensive. Yeah, just has to be something you feel good in. And you guys might remember, a few months ago in the summer, I went up to um to visit leslie um on with with the intention of going to thrift stores to find some good quality, inexpensive clothing. So it doesn't have to be a lot of money that you spend to find things that you really enjoy wearing. So yeah, man, do you?

Speaker 1:

hear the thunder. It is really coming down by you.

Speaker 2:

I don't think you can hear it. Oh, it's really really loud.

Speaker 1:

It's very, very loud Right over my head.

Speaker 2:

I think the weather is supposed to be coming up to you too. Yeah, we've had rain all day, Stormy weather.

Speaker 1:

Shall I go to the next one? Sure, Sure. It says respect the younger generation and their opinions. They may not have the same ideas as you, but they are the future and will take the world in their opinions. They may not have the same ideas as you, but they are the future and will take the world in their direction. Give advice, not criticism, and try to remind them that yesterday's wisdom still applies today. Never use the phrase in my time, because your time is now as long as you're alive. You are part of this time. Love that, in fact. Two thumbs up for that one. I'm gonna see if I'm like. I'm like this one I'm.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, I heart this one. Oh my gosh, stop it. I'm like this.

Speaker 1:

All right, tell me about that In general, I agree.

Speaker 2:

I absolutely believe that the young are the leaders. I learned so, so much from young folks, especially my children. So absolutely, absolutely. For for that part, I think looking back is also good. You know it's, it's you. The past has a lot to teach us.

Speaker 1:

It does, it says try to remind them that yesterday's wisdom still applies today.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yes, but then what did it say about never say it back in the day we?

Speaker 1:

used to do. Don't use the phrase in my time, because it's still your time.

Speaker 2:

Ah, I see.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I misunderstood Okay.

Speaker 2:

All right, okay, so it's.

Speaker 1:

You're not a relic.

Speaker 2:

It's trending up. It's trending up. It's going from here to here. Yeah, it's there, it's there, okay, okay, that's all.

Speaker 1:

All right, do you want?

Speaker 2:

to my phone keeps on.

Speaker 1:

Is it? Are you reading from your phone? Do you want me to read the next one? No, no, I got it. I got it. Okay, go ahead, let I skipped around some, so you go to where you want to go.

Speaker 2:

Oh listen to this one. Wait, wait. Do not surrender to the temptation of living with your children or grandchildren. If you have a financial choice, that is Sure. Being surrounded by family sounds great, but we all need our privacy. They need theirs and you need yours. Even then, do so only if you feel you really need the help or do not want to live by yourself.

Speaker 1:

What do you think of that?

Speaker 2:

Well, I I come from a culture. I've lived here for a long time but the culture that I come from in Jamaica, it's not a individual, independent type of culture. You live with family, you live around family. Your grandparents don't live, you know, from a cultural perspective, you live around generations and cousins and so on. So this idea that independence is the desired state, is not something.

Speaker 2:

I immediately resonate with. It's like I remember when my children were little and some of the American elders in my life oh, let them sleep by themselves. That was just not how I this idea that you teach them how to be independent.

Speaker 2:

Independent, early and separate early, yeah, but what I know to be true is that the more that you let people know that you are there, the more that they become independent. It's may seem counterintuitive Paradoxical is the word yes and so same idea comes up now, this idea that you live by yourself. I think there's a lot of loneliness as we age, and so that's how that made me feel like like not sure about that one.

Speaker 1:

I I'm with you on that um I know what you're thinking about exactly some things like yourself. Um, I I kind of think they're tripping on this one One you know I grew up with. At one point there were five generations in my home.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I do know it was amazing. I knew my grandparents and I grew up with my great-grandparents, which was a blessing and, you know, formed so much of my life and who I am as a person, so I too. It's also a cultural thing. I don't think that we, as a culture, tend to move away from our kin if we don't have to.

Speaker 1:

We kind of stay close and there's a lot of intergenerational interaction. But I wouldn't necessarily want to live with my um children forever unless I were informed and needed that level of help right because I'm still young and I still have privacy needs uh, yeah, but you can.

Speaker 2:

What makes you think that you couldn't do those things without um?

Speaker 1:

it depends.

Speaker 2:

It depends on the setting, but um a lot of it depends, yeah yeah, a lot of it depends I think this links back in his mind to the, the first or second one, like because they're about to steal your money, so don't go that's pretty funny because they really yeahughter-in-law is going to take that. All right One more.

Speaker 1:

Okay, do we have time for All? Right, we can do one more. I'm the time keeper. Do we have time? Yeah, we have time for one more. Try to go what? Get out of the house, meet people you haven't seen in a while, experience something new or something old. The important thing is to leave the house from time to time. Go to museums, go through walks in a park, just get out of there. I love that. I love that Loneliness is a problem for people who often a problem when people get older.

Speaker 1:

Their lifelong friends may have passed, and one thing that I see contributes to this loneliness is that a lot of older people haven't kept in touch with people younger than themselves. So when you get to age 85, many of your peers have passed. But if you have intergenerational relationships, those people younger than you 60s and 50s and other you know still have a lot to offer you in your life. But the other thing about loneliness is a lot of people are not used to being by themselves and they think that that state of being by themselves mean that they're lonely. I don't get the opportunity to be alone very often, so I love being by myself. You know. It's then that I go to the movies alone. I go to museums by myself. It's almost like having a date with yourself.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, that's nice and you don't have to ask people's permission or opinions of you know what do you like? Oh, there's no compromise needed. I enjoyed it a long time. So when they say, as you get older, go out and don't become sedentary and locked in your home, that's important.

Speaker 1:

I have a friend who is retired now and one he says that he makes a point to go out every day. No, no matter what, just to go out every day. Um, but the other thing that he says uh, he told me one time is that he makes a point to meet someone new, and I don't know if it's once a month or whatever, I don't remember. This was a while ago, he said this to me, but he'll, let's say, at a social gathering, just go up to someone, a stranger you know, and start chatting or introduce himself. It could be a guy or girl, it's not, you know, right, but he does that in order to interact with a new person on a regular basis. Yeah, that's clever.

Speaker 2:

It is clever, it's clever, and it's actually one of the reasons why I moved to a more urban environment, because I wanted to have more opportunities for that right Because going out for walks, I was doing that and so on, but sometimes you don't even see people you know what I mean or a few people, or people who are not saying hello. Whatever I, every time I've gone out here, I've gotten at least three people say hello to me, which I love. Sometimes they're inebriated, and that's okay. That's okay. They're still pleasant, they're still beautiful.

Speaker 1:

I like it I remember the dude that when I went to the supermarket by you and I ended up buying him a whole cart full of groceries, he just kept. It got to a point where I said, all right, stop asking me for individual things, go shop for whatever it is that you want and come back feed me. At the register it was Christmas. He just kept saying could you get me? Can I add some bread? Would you? Can you get me? Can I add some bread? Can you buy me? It started out with a magazine and $149 later.

Speaker 2:

I don't think I knew how to do it.

Speaker 1:

I thought I told you it was $150.

Speaker 2:

It was more than my groceries. No, you did not tell me that.

Speaker 1:

It was more than my groceries. But anyway, because I said to him, just get whatever you want. He was pulling in like ritz crackers and this and that you know he had a need. I wasn't. I didn't begrudge him for that. But I'm saying, if somebody said to me I'll shop for you, I'd be in the butcher department, I'd probably be in the alcohol department, I'd get some frozen foods for later.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God. Well, actually that's wonderful. I went to a networking event of entrepreneurs and I met someone there. We started talking and you know, ms Coach, I started giving some advice and we're going for a walk tomorrow, or, if it's raining, we're going to just have coffee, but it's just things like that. I am so happy that I made this move.

Speaker 1:

I am so, so, so happy yeah.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, lord, thank you, lord yes.

Speaker 1:

So I think the bottom line is you know, getting older and this is kind of like our brand too Getting older doesn't mean that you have to slow down. It certainly could mean that your life can look different than it's been over the past. You know number of decades or whatever. Life can look different than it's been over the past. You know number of decades or whatever, but you know whether you're still working like I am, like Ang is, or retired, like so many people are at 60, people are retiring early, and they're retiring early, much like what Stephanie Perry says, in order to not fixate on the old traditions of when it is, we need to stop working, we put all of our energy into other people's businesses and things, and then whatever is left we leave for ourselves. That paradigm is shifting and I appreciate it, and it's certainly going to shift for me, whether I work or not. I'm going to just start making some subtle changes, you know.

Speaker 2:

Amen Amen to that. I think that's a good way to close. I'm going to go make sure that all my windows are closed so that, because I like to let fresh air in, and so make sure, with all this rain Good idea my carpet isn't getting. I don't want to forget to say that.

Speaker 1:

Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn is produced by this lady right over here, angela Fraser, and our editing is from Matt Dershowitz and his awesomeness and our social media person people come from Couture Copywriting, so this has been another episode of Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn.

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