Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn

Getting Out of the ‘Stuff’ Phase of Life

April 09, 2024 Angella Fraser & Leslie Osei-Tutu Season 7 Episode 5
Getting Out of the ‘Stuff’ Phase of Life
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Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn
Getting Out of the ‘Stuff’ Phase of Life
Apr 09, 2024 Season 7 Episode 5
Angella Fraser & Leslie Osei-Tutu

Would you be able to describe your lifestyle as agile?  In other words, as your life stands right now, could you relocate within a short period of time in order to embrace a dream opportunity?  Most of us can not.  In this episode of Black Boomer Besties for Brooklyn, Leslie and Angella describe the recent changes in Angella’s life and discuss her process of simplifying things- letting go of “stuff” and instead embracing a more joyful lifestyle.  However, this conversation isn't just about finding joy; it's about recognizing the raw beauty in transformation and the contentment that follows when we dare to pursue the life we desire.


Join them as they tackle the art of minimalism, sharing heartfelt feelings about downsizing and the sense of freedom that comes with shedding the excess. Living with less doesn't just clear our space, it clears our minds, giving us the agility to move through life with a newfound ease. 


But it's not all about tossing things away; they also honor the memories tied to their cherished belongings. Together, they navigate the emotional process of determining which mementos to hold onto and discover the liberating journey toward striking our natural balance with the possessions they actually choose to surround themselves with.


This episode and all previous episodes are available on The Besties’
YouTube. Please join our Besties Quad Squad as a Patreon subscriber at the $5 or $10 monthly level. You'll receive exclusive behind-the-scenes content.

Support the Show.

Visit Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn website for behind-the-scenes extras.

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Would you be able to describe your lifestyle as agile?  In other words, as your life stands right now, could you relocate within a short period of time in order to embrace a dream opportunity?  Most of us can not.  In this episode of Black Boomer Besties for Brooklyn, Leslie and Angella describe the recent changes in Angella’s life and discuss her process of simplifying things- letting go of “stuff” and instead embracing a more joyful lifestyle.  However, this conversation isn't just about finding joy; it's about recognizing the raw beauty in transformation and the contentment that follows when we dare to pursue the life we desire.


Join them as they tackle the art of minimalism, sharing heartfelt feelings about downsizing and the sense of freedom that comes with shedding the excess. Living with less doesn't just clear our space, it clears our minds, giving us the agility to move through life with a newfound ease. 


But it's not all about tossing things away; they also honor the memories tied to their cherished belongings. Together, they navigate the emotional process of determining which mementos to hold onto and discover the liberating journey toward striking our natural balance with the possessions they actually choose to surround themselves with.


This episode and all previous episodes are available on The Besties’
YouTube. Please join our Besties Quad Squad as a Patreon subscriber at the $5 or $10 monthly level. You'll receive exclusive behind-the-scenes content.

Support the Show.

Visit Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn website for behind-the-scenes extras.

Speaker 1:

Why hello and Well?

Speaker 2:

howdy-do. How are you? That's what we would say in Jamaica when anyone passed by. Howdy-do, howdy-do.

Speaker 1:

My grandma needs to say that Howdy-do. My grandma needs to say that Howdy-do, howdy-do, howdy-do. Fine, no, oh boy, okay, hello, welcome to another episode of Black Boomer.

Speaker 2:

Besties from Brooklyn. Brooklyn, we're in the building. We're in the building. We're going to chat it up today because we're in two different buildings actually.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, we're in the building. We're going to chat it up. Today we're in two different buildings actually.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, we're in two different buildings. We're in our buildings and you see, there's so much beautiful sunlight coming into my living room. I love it.

Speaker 1:

And let me tell you that space is just beautiful.

Speaker 2:

I'm just looking at your background.

Speaker 1:

It's such a nice picture. You have behind you A screen you have behind you.

Speaker 2:

Can you imagine living in that screen, in that?

Speaker 1:

screen. Yes, it does, it's a really nice background.

Speaker 2:

I actually went to close the blinds and realized that they were already closed. That's just how the sun is coming through.

Speaker 1:

And so I guess it was meant to be the light surrounds you, that's a nice look. A nice different look. I don't see you looking like that very often.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, you look like you're serious New look, new wig, new tattoos.

Speaker 1:

New hair, new glasses.

Speaker 2:

The glasses are not new. Well, yeah, wig new tattoos, new hair, new glasses the glasses are not new.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, they look different. I guess with the rest of the look it's a good, serious work. Look like she got work to do, is it Mm-hmm?

Speaker 2:

I look like a librarian. Is that what it is? Serious, serious. It is Serious, serious. Okay, well, not serious, just very pensive. You all know I moved into my new place in a bit of a city-ish area, mm-hmm, and I've been telling Leslie that the whole thing was so unsettling for me. How so. And well, it's just been unsettling.

Speaker 1:

All right, tell me what you're saying, and then I'll remember because it didn't seem unsettling to me.

Speaker 2:

What I mean is that change is usually not really hard for me to accept and to go through.

Speaker 1:

It's hard for me, but not you.

Speaker 2:

Right, and that's kind of it depends on the change. But yeah, and this change. But I realized it wasn't just one change. This change in moving was really, really unsettling. But then I realized that it wasn't the only thing changing. It was me living 100% by myself. It was me living back in an urban environment that I hadn't lived in in 30 plus years and it was me kind of making a decision about my next steps. And this was just one hop in that progression.

Speaker 2:

But I did see it as a major step towards the way that I envisioned my life going forward and I made sure that I just allowed myself to sit in this instead of kind of rushing through the discomfort and challenging it. And why am I feeling this way? I realized that when I allowed myself to feel the feels and recognize that it was a lot of change and move through it instead of resisting it, resisting it, I reached where I am now, which is, I would say, I'm moving into enjoyment and so that joy again, it's that joy thing, it's, it's the. I knew that the move would create joy, and I also know that joy isn't always kind of right now, easy, right. It's not happy, it's joy, so it's deeper, and sometimes it takes a lot of effort to get there. But even on the journey, when you know that you're moving towards something that you really desire, I count that as joy, also because otherwise you'd be just stuck in wherever you were stuck before you sought out joy.

Speaker 2:

So anyway. So I was thinking about the future, because I do see this as a moving towards that, and I thought that would be a great topic for us to talk about, because that's where my head is right now is yeah, I think mine is there too.

Speaker 1:

I didn't realize what another change that um you made in addition to the move and the change in venue, but you also downsized even more than you have been over the last two years yeah. Yeah, that was a big big thing for you from moving from the very large five-bedroom home to a smaller place, and now even smaller. Yes, so you're like giving more away and living with a bit less and acquiring smaller scale things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, not investing a lot of money into things. Right, I actually liquidated most of what I had in the five bedroom house and I had an opportunity to see them and thank them. Burdened by things, the having a place for the things to exist, whether you live with them or have them in storage, you know they're, they're, they're still there, you're paying for them beyond buying them, you're you're you're paying for them if you're not kind of living with them. So, yeah, those were some conscious decisions, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm leaning in a little bit more as you're speaking about that, because I liked how you said I want to be more agile and to me that goes a little bit in tandem with what our friend Stephanie Perry has terms a life of ease, and I think I've been thinking about that in a lot of her teaching often, and I think about the agility of being able to move around unburdened by stuff and things that we thought over the decades that were important or that we needed, but as we're getting older, we realize that they're not the important things in our lives.

Speaker 1:

Right, you know? Like so many of us have the abundance of five televisions, and like I have two televisions in my basement, one on one wall my workout area and then the other one in the lounge area Come on, les, and I'm not a tv watcher, you know and then that's just the basement, then it's television upstairs. The abundance of materialism is really starting to bug me, and, um, I'm, I've been looking around lately with a mindset of trying to be perhaps more mobile later, or, you know, moving to a smaller scale home or something like that and I'm like looking around like where is it all going?

Speaker 1:

to go? How am I going to? How are we going to unload all of this stuff? You know, a room turned into a closet yeah, that doesn't still doesn't hold all of our things. Like you know, it's starting to feel a little frivolous.

Speaker 2:

Right, right, Right right. There's still certain things that I don't know if I could let go of. But a big thing that I let go of were I had kept stuff from my children, all three of them. All three of them my two eldest went to a magnet school that was focused on Stephen Covey's Seven Habits of Highly Effective People and they would have what they call victory folders and they were. It wasn't the teacher deciding what to put in their victory folder. They, the children, chose what they were particularly proud of that they put in the folder.

Speaker 1:

I hope you didn't get rid of the victory folders the folder.

Speaker 2:

I hope you didn't get rid of the victory folders I did.

Speaker 1:

How big were they.

Speaker 2:

Well, I each, and the youngest didn't only went to that school for a year. But do I have to discuss All I have to say?

Speaker 1:

is that I looked?

Speaker 2:

I looked through them, I relived. I relived the experience. I got the dopamine hit again from them and then I said goodbye and thank you goodbye because did you offer to give it to them, they might listen.

Speaker 2:

They have enough things that I know they want, that I know they want. They want all of the VCR tapes, they want all of their games, and it's for good reason, because a lot of these, these older movies, are not available online the way that they used to be, and that's going to continue to diminish, right. And so my first one was like, really on point, and so all of the. I even have a vcr player, I have a record player, I have some records I have enough of the things that I'm aware.

Speaker 1:

It sounds to me like I'm never going to get rid of my stuff. I'm going to be buried with my shit.

Speaker 2:

This is a thing, but what?

Speaker 1:

How do you do it?

Speaker 2:

Maybe this is what you want. No, you know what it is. You know what it is.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to need a surrogate, and that's what. Even does marie kondo say that where you really need to get someone else who is a little bit more objective with different eyes I see right, you know like they do on help.

Speaker 1:

I'm a hoarder, right, they get the professional to come in and go through your stuff and like do you need this? Yes, do you need this. When is your last weight? It's torn. It doesn't fit you, right. See, one thing that has made it easy for me to get rid of a lot of clothing and things is my weight loss. They don't fit me anymore so I can't justify too much keeping them, so that has been helpful.

Speaker 2:

Right, I have to admit something.

Speaker 1:

What did you?

Speaker 2:

keep Okay. So I have two pieces of clothing that I had before I left Jamaica. One of them was before I left Jamaica and it's in one of the pictures that you know.

Speaker 1:

Okay, the dress Okay.

Speaker 2:

The dress with the green background, with the white flowers, and I'm showing my Mickey Mouse watch, my new Mickey Mouse watch that my mom got for me you positioned your wrist and I was turning it around so everyone could see it. That was in Highgate in Jamaica, so I have that dress and I also have. Is it tattered A little bit. That was in Highgate in Jamaica, so I have that dress and I also have. Is it tattered?

Speaker 1:

A little bit, not a lot.

Speaker 2:

It's a couple centuries old but like the collar is torn, but I'm not interested in fixing it actually.

Speaker 1:

Because you're not wearing it.

Speaker 2:

But I just thought of something. But anyway, and the other thing I have is the coat that my mother and my eldest brother met us at the airport, because it was the dead of winter when we arrived in America and she had sent down some warmer clothing for us. But the coat that she met us at the airport with I still have that coat Was that green? It wasn't. It's a gray coat, red inside. It has some fake fur around the collar. Gold buttons.

Speaker 1:

You've got to take a picture of it. We've got to post it.

Speaker 2:

I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, if you're on Patreon, you'll see it. I'll take some pictures, but maybe I'll use some of it in something I don't know, like on a pillow or an art installation or something.

Speaker 1:

Maybe I'll create a shadow box is interesting because you know how you have the shadow box for Brooklyn Tech. Yes, yes, yes you didn't give that away, did you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, something like that. Did you give that away? No?

Speaker 1:

Oh, I don't know, you gave your children's things away. I mean, I don't know, maybe Brooklyn Tech means nothing to you, the place where we met and forged this 50, half the century. You know friendship, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

No, I, I, I didn't, I didn't throw that away, but Wow, what do I have?

Speaker 1:

like that, that's yeah.

Speaker 2:

I know you have stuff, but what are you willing to let go? What do you feel like you could never let go? I keep things.

Speaker 1:

I'll tell you one thing that I have for sure I have my tech senior t-shirt Me too, thank, God, I found it. I have it.

Speaker 2:

Thank God, I found it.

Speaker 1:

That's what almost 45 years old 1980.

Speaker 2:

Actually I got to make sure, with all the names on the back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got to think I'm sure I had things from earlier than that.

Speaker 2:

Okay, question though yeah, can you still fit that T-shirt?

Speaker 1:

I bet you I can.

Speaker 2:

I can too. It's very tight on me. It's very tight, it's very tight, but I can still get it on.

Speaker 1:

Actually, it may not even be so tight.

Speaker 2:

It's not.

Speaker 1:

It wouldn't be tight on you because you're so slim, especially up top, but so, ange, yeah, patreon pictures. Let's take pictures in it In our tech shirts. Okay, bet, because.

Speaker 2:

Linda, always. I mean, some of us wear them, some of us wear them, some of us wear those shirts. So the other thing that I've done is I've stopped.

Speaker 1:

I have purposefully just eaten what I want to eat. Tell me about that, that is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, so I'm kind of just exploring that to see in my regular state, where I'm not super conscious of and I'm not a poor eater sweets and things like that anyway, but I had been really reducing my carbs. I just decided well, what would my diet look like if just based on everything I know? I just did that versus no, you can't do that.

Speaker 1:

You can't do that If you ate whatever it is that you wanted. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2:

Right, and again it was more of a. If I were free from all that stuff, what would my equilibrium be? You know what I mean? That's an interesting thing.

Speaker 1:

That's an interesting endeavor, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And it's just to kind of see it's yeah, Because physiologically I've heard I don't know how true it is, but I've heard that one I do know that we all have a metabolic set point and a weight set point, and when we try to deviate from it, that's where the difficulty comes in. Either trying to gain weight like Omari could never gain weight, Earn can't gain weight but when people try to lose weight, they have a set point that it's so difficult to get out of that. So not just that, but I've also heard that people crave. Or when they eat freely, they eat in a nutritionally sound way, in a balanced way. Yeah, you know that you'll get enough protein, you'll get enough of your veggies and way. Yeah, you know that you'll get enough protein, You'll get enough of your veggies and whatever.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, If you listen to your body and eat what your body is asking for you know that's interesting.

Speaker 2:

I've never been able to do that I eat like a toddler sometimes. No, but I think that's interesting. I never knew that, because I do. You know, I have my peanuts when I feel like I need protein and I don't want to prepare something or I don't have any rotisserie chicken or anything like that.

Speaker 1:

So you eat peanuts intentionally for protein or just because you enjoy it and it's a snack Both. Like when I don't feel like preparing breakfast Drinking water out of a martini glass. Say that again. I'm drinking water out of a martini glass, like when I don't feel like preparing breakfast, say that again, I'm drinking water out of a martini glass.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so if I don't feel like preparing anything for breakfast, I'll have like a serving of peanuts with my coffee, and I know that that's on protein, so I so I do that. But anyway, and another part of that, because this is all about moving towards ease, towards feeling free and what that could feel like.

Speaker 2:

Constraints. Yeah, exactly, exactly so. I'm also, you know, I have, um, I'm feeling a little, a little more girth around my, my middle, that's where it shows up on me mostly and I'm just like, hey, I see you, I kind of I'm okay. I'm just like, hey, I see you, I kind of I'm okay. I'm not like, oh, my God, I got a. That's a little new for you though.

Speaker 1:

Huh, that's a little new for you, because you discussed about things like that.

Speaker 2:

I know, but this is where I am now. I'm, I'm, I'm seeing, since when this week Like this is where you are when you have been influenced by Stephanie and have been thinking about what living abroad could be like, which, to me, is For sure, because the first time you traveled outside of the United States was when you came with me to Jamaica one year. Was that the first time?

Speaker 1:

That was the first time. I don't even remember Wow.

Speaker 2:

That was the first time. Wow that was the first time. So that was the first time. Wow, that was the first time. So it was whatever Decades ago. I'm going to say 15, 16. Were we that?

Speaker 1:

young, so I never thought.

Speaker 2:

That Was that? Were we that young? No, maybe not, I don't know. Maybe no, we were older. I have no idea. We were older, I don't know, maybe I have no idea, we were older before I was married, though, so maybe late teens, early twenties, maybe something like that but.

Speaker 1:

But I am seriously thinking, I know and planning a trip that will come up at some point that we'll talk about on the show. But I'm planning my trip abroad to go looking at places to live and yeah, who are?

Speaker 2:

you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, who are you, and you know how much I love my work, but I can actually envision a different work circumstance for me as well. Wow, you know, maybe part time or maybe a few days a week or a couple months at a time or something like that, but at least I'm thinking about it and I can really see something like that in my future. Right, right, I can't wait to go on my recon trip I know, I can't wait to hear the news.

Speaker 2:

You better take a lot of videos. I want to like. I want to see the full, the full spectrum of places and I'll be behind you the next trip. Okay, and the reason why I'm not going with you is because my youngest is graduating in May, graduating from undergrad and moving to the other side of the country on the West Coast, west coast and um, so just going there with him and getting him set up and looking at apartments and all that stuff is happening in may. So that's going to be a really busy month and fun yeah yeah, but really that's exciting.

Speaker 1:

How do you feel about that? That means I'm wonderful. All of your children will be out of the state that you live in.

Speaker 2:

I feel wonderful. My mother um raised me with a, a sense of um. You know, we talked about this, I think, the last time the thinking that the more that you keep children close, the less independent they are. You know, in my kind of in my home base, we were very close, but my mother really encouraged us to go away to college. She didn't kick us out to go, but she really encouraged us to go away to college. She didn't kick us out to go, but she really encouraged us to go. Go away and um kind of see what the world was like. My sister traveled a lot, um, and I am quite proud that my children are um feel, um confident enough to do it, even even again, when I talk about confidence, it doesn't mean or, or, um, you know, fear, fear. Fear is there, but that they pushed, are pushing through it and um and going to do this, and so this is something really interesting too. So um, uh, I think I've been using.

Speaker 2:

So Isaiah asked me about um, uh, about, you know, his expenses and what he should kind of plan for and what percentage you go to rent and things like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exciting, it is exciting, and so he said that he really wants a nice car, but he's not sure whether you know. And I was like Isaiah, you're young, isaiah. You're young Like go, you don't always put some money away just for savings period. You're going to max out 401k, all of that stuff right, and you're going to put a little extra above that. But outside of that, have some fun. You know, have some fun. You're going to be probably working for a long time in some ways, you know, and so I encourage him to get a nice car. You may decide in a year that no.

Speaker 1:

I don't want that car no.

Speaker 2:

I'd rather put it into a nicer apartment, and then you'll switch back for a year.

Speaker 1:

I'd rather put it into a nicer apartment and then you'll switch back for a year. I love that you're encouraging him to establish a level of freedom even early. You know the important things take care of. But so often and I'm like this I got to say I counsel my children and say just be careful, especially early, if you start now and this, and that I really have a more closed hand or cautious approach than anything. I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

You know I grew up in my family and my siblings. We were not necessarily encouraged to go abroad or go away to school and things like that. So I was the rebel and I was the only one that went away to school when I went to Brandeis and to encourage my child to leave the home and go, you know, go to school away and things like that. But it's not the tradition in my personal family, you know. So I like that you say you know, see what works for you, because what we've learned in the years that we've been, that we've been an adult, that you can always pivot and change. You know that things are not static. You know if it doesn't work out, you know you come back. If you don't care for the car, if it's too expensive, you get rid of it and do something different, you know. So it's instilling flexibility early. I think that's really important.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think the older ones will say man Isaiah has such a different life than we had. I think I've always kind of been this way. I think I've always kind of been this way. But definitely and I blame them too I said because you have taught me that it's OK to lean into this, because you know you're grounded, you're really grounded.

Speaker 1:

So you know we both are so yeah, but as I was saying, I'm like oh Lord, because then he started sending me the cars that he likes. What? Is he thinking of Camaros, like his mama, I know.

Speaker 2:

We test drove one together before I got my car that you love.

Speaker 1:

And, by the way, did I tell you it was humming after I got it serviced? You did, and I don't love it. I like it a red challenger charger, not challenger charger. It's still a little out of my comfort zone.

Speaker 2:

I had to get the the charger because I wanted a four-door, even because my children I'm like, yeah, but they need to have a comfort in the back seat. Um, but, yeah, that's what he's looking at and uh, so we're, we're bringing my brother into it, my, the younger of my two brothers, who's really into cars, to help make the decision. But but that's kind of, um, you know, it's a part of this next phase of of life. Um, you know, I can almost, like, tie a bow on the part of my life where parenting was my focus, yeah, and this is totally transitioning to where?

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah, it's like these discrete time periods and I like that. Each generation we're talking about another generation right now, but they have their own transitions and changes also, you know Right, so I think that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I, yeah, I, I. I just lost my train of thought and it's not going to come back. It'll come back when I'm in the shower tonight.

Speaker 1:

All right, we'll get back on film, we'll get back on camera.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, what I was going to say is no, but this is feeling better and better. This is feeling better and better. This is feeling better and better.

Speaker 1:

What is this that you're referring to?

Speaker 2:

The change, the change. Like I said, it was really unsettling.

Speaker 1:

So it's becoming it's starting to feel right. I like it, yep and I have no doubt that when it starts to feel unright and you start thinking about other things, that you don't have any fear about moving on to the next thing you know, exploring something different.

Speaker 2:

I will have the fears, but more than likely I will do it through fear.

Speaker 1:

I'll definitely have the fear.

Speaker 2:

This was. There was some fear, a lot of fear around this. I remembered what I was going to ask you about I hope you're willing to talk about it what the thing you refer to as your dentures. And the reason why it came to mind is because when I was thinking about us as teenagers and at some point you'd asked me about whether you should have braces, and I was like, oh, I don't know, I don't want you to change.

Speaker 1:

You outed me. I was being so selfish. Every time I ever asked you, should I get braces, you said no you said no, I know, but I think it was.

Speaker 2:

I think it was honestly, it was selfishness. I didn't want you to change.

Speaker 1:

I really do honestly, that is selfish and I'll tell you this, okay, so now that you've outed me, you don't have to say it. Why do you say it like that? So, now that you've, outed me. So, yes, I've always loved the gap in my teeth. However, the more I see myself on camera, however, the more I see myself on camera, the first thing that I ever think of is I don't like my teeth. Why didn't I get braces? Why didn't I get braces?

Speaker 1:

So here I am, doing my public a favor and I got Invisalign braces, so I don't know if you guys can notice that I'm slurring my speech a little bit and I'm drinking water a lot because it dries my mouth out, especially when I speak a lot. But I have aligners on top and bottom and Ange. First of all, you know I'm a little ditzy. I won't say that a little ditzy. You're a little what? All right, I won't say that A little ditzy.

Speaker 2:

All right, don't make me say it with a slur.

Speaker 1:

Clumsy, clumsy, ditzy, I'm a little clumsy too, but I'm a little forgetful actually. Okay, okay, I've already lost them quite a few times. Because here's the thing, because here's the thing, here's the thing.

Speaker 1:

It hasn't been that long though it's only, this is only week three. I've lost them a few times well, not lost, but couldn't find them a few times, panicked, but anyway. Um, you can't eat in them because you don't want any food particles to get under them and stay in your teeth and you can only drink water with them. So I've already lost about four pounds with these in, because taking them in and out I'm not snacking and stuff, because I'd have to take them out to snack, take a pretzel.

Speaker 1:

And then the other thing is at work last week I told the cleaning staff here I am at a surgical center with patients. Don't throw anything away.

Speaker 1:

I had somebody go to the dumpster and bring the bin back in. My teeth were not in my pocket. I call them my teeth. They were not in my pocket. I call them my teeth. They were not in my pocket. Oh my God, my scrubs. When I thought I'm like oh my God, when did I last see it? Okay, I took it out to eat lunch and I'm going through all the garbages with my gloves on looking for these things. I can't imagine they were in with my lunch, because if I don't have the case and right now I don't even know where the case is, okay, it's a shame. There's something wrong with me.

Speaker 1:

help me, I don't think so and I put it in a napkin and stick it in my pocket and it's like why am I carrying around a napkin and toss it? Now I knew why I was carrying around a napkin. But anyway, and I think maybe 10 months I'm going to have nice straight teeth. Wow, I'm going to have that Colgate smile.

Speaker 2:

You know I, this is this. This is really kind of weird but so racist to me. Um, I can't remember ever seeing braces when I was growing up in jamaica, so braces to me are very american thing, right, and older people with braces I've always seen as kind of like Cool yeah, kind of like an admission that they you know they're not like, they don't feel like they're over the hill.

Speaker 1:

Like there's still, there's still life left. There's still some beauty left, yeah right, there's still some beauty left, yeah right, there's still some beautifulness.

Speaker 2:

I've always kind of seen older people with braces that way.

Speaker 1:

So that's why I see you.

Speaker 2:

All right, I know I'm a little strange, but that's okay, I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1:

I like it. Well, I think that's a good way to end Leslie's going to beautify herself. That's a good way to end leslie's gonna beautify herself, and, and, and you know, and, and what can out.

Speaker 2:

Is there anything for the crow's feet that I can? Um, oh, I no, we're not doing that. Do we agree that we're not doing that?

Speaker 1:

you remember my botox experience I hated it. Oh my god, yes, oh my god, the lady at the place that I work at um, I've forgotten about that. She came into us and all of like the staff and whatever she's like, I have free Botox for any of it. Today is Botox day. I have free samples. Anybody want Botox in it, Like you know, and I'm like okay, I'll do it, I'll do it. I hated it, man. It's like I really didn't like the way I looked.

Speaker 2:

I think I remember it now. I didn't like it at all and remember I couldn't, something was overdone. I couldn't, it was doing too much.

Speaker 1:

I couldn't raise my eyebrows. It was.

Speaker 2:

And then it's like I remember eventually.

Speaker 1:

So this stuff was all static, but then my eyelids felt like they were drooping. It's like I don't. I don't think I need Botox. Thank God I couldn't do that, but I also. I'm not a fan of that.

Speaker 2:

See, I can try things, certain things. I would just be too afraid to try it Like that, like skydiving, but you don't like needles, things like that.

Speaker 1:

You know, Botox involves needles.

Speaker 2:

Excuse me, wait a minute. I remember injecting your feet with needles. You didn't like that. Hold on, hold on Leslie you didn't tolerate that injection at all. Let's just be clear. I don't have a problem with needles.

Speaker 1:

I had to. I think you screamed so much, didn't one of your children start crying? You started crying. They did, they did, they did.

Speaker 2:

Like I was hurting you. They did I was hurting you right. I don't even remember what happened.

Speaker 1:

I don't even know why I was injecting your feet.

Speaker 2:

You were trying to I think you were trying to get a splinter something and you got your that needle and I don't know and. I said let me numb it, I have. I can inject it with numbing medicine Right, so you could get it out. Why, why?

Speaker 1:

You had a foreign body in your foot. No, no, no.

Speaker 2:

Why did I allow you to do that to me? I don't know. I gladly okay, les sure I think it's. I think it was worse than childbirth. You thought that I was confident. I think it was worse than childbirth.

Speaker 1:

Let me just ask you did we ever get the splinter out?

Speaker 2:

I don't even remember because the pain was so great.

Speaker 1:

And you almost passed out.

Speaker 2:

That the splinter. Oh my, my gosh.

Speaker 1:

I get terrible right now thinking about how painful it was. I remember I think we got it out though this is what we do. We got a lot more years to go babes, foreign bodies from each other and help each other beautify their new homes. Alright, pal, this was a cool episode. And help each other beautify their new homes. All right, pal, this was a cool episode. This has been another episode of Black Women.

Speaker 2:

We've got some good guests coming up. Guys, we do have good guests.

Speaker 1:

But on a serious note, I do want to say, and let us all say a prayer for a close friend of ours lost his dad recently. Yeah, and our hearts go out to him and his family. May they find peace in their grief and this difficult time.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do want to say that, and I also want to say that Black Boomer, besties from Brooklyn is produced by Angela Fraser that lady right over there Our editing team is from Matt Dershowitz and our great marketing folks come from Couture Copywriting, so we have a nice little circle egging us on. So I like that we have a small and mighty team. We do.

Speaker 2:

We do.

Speaker 1:

So stay tuned for upcoming things from Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn Brooklyn.

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