Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn
Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn
Ep154 She Left A Safe Career To Build Joyful Work On Stage
The Besties trace Angella’s pivots from a 30 plus year corporate career in IT to becoming an entrepreneur who works in theater, showing how one bold choice can open a chain of unexpected doors. Craft, culture and courage meet in scenes from The Color Purple, Motown design, and a 40+ wig design for Legally Blonde The Musical.
The heart of the episode explores how many of us, especially Boomers, are wired for “surety”—the prescribed path through degrees, titles, and predictable outcomes but that training often punishes creative risk and keeps us from starting at all.
The episode closes with a call to those who might be feeling a rumble of discontent. Not everyone must rock the boat but if you are restless it might be worth investigate it.
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Hey Ann.
SPEAKER_01:Hey Les, how's it going?
SPEAKER_00:It's going. Good. But but it's going. It's going. You know, it's not like it's going. It's going. It's just going. Yeah. It's doing that. Okay. We all know what time it is. But anyway. How are you, Pally?
SPEAKER_01:I'm doing alright. I'm doing alright. Nice to see you.
SPEAKER_00:I'm a little tired, but life is life is life is amazing. How about that? Amazing.
SPEAKER_01:It's amazing and it's complicated at the same time and it's hard.
SPEAKER_00:All of those those three things.
SPEAKER_01:All at the same time. They can coexist. We talked about that a little bit last time. But it can coexist.
SPEAKER_00:But welcome to another episode of Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn.
SPEAKER_01:I'm Angela, and that's Leslie, my best friend of almost 50 years. Every time that number.
SPEAKER_00:I know.
SPEAKER_01:We are two free-thinking 60-something-year-old black women, and we've decided to make joy and uh more boldness happen in our lives. We invite you to join us. Um, even more importantly, we invite you to get on your own journey, continue your own journey. Um, and we hope that our um episodes help you to further in that direction. Um, today I'm gonna be sharing um some of what I'm doing uh, you know, over the last few weeks, what I'm working on and how that came to happen. It's uh as you all may know, one of the things that I I do as an entrepreneur, the first thing that I did um after leaving corporate was to go to cosmetology school. So I'll share a little bit about how that decision led to what I'm doing now, even though I had no idea it would. And um just as Leslie and I talked about this this this topic, because typically the way it happens, we're talking, and then it was like, ah, let's let's talk about it on the podcast. Stop talking, stop talking. So we didn't go into it too much, but just some nuggets kind of came out of it for the for the both of us, and so we decided to share that with you. So, what have you been up to? Well, in um uh just a just a real quick synopsis, and then um I'll tell you what I'm up to now. So, in uh I left my corporate career um late 2016, and by I think March it was of the following year, I went to cosmetology school. Um, and I'd been thinking about it for the prior six months or so. And I was trying to think about how I could do both. You know, I I my the headquarters of my company, the company that I used to work for, um, let's get that clear, it was not my company, the company I used to work for is in California. And so, you know, I had those three hours in the morning, right? Um, to maybe go to school. So I was looking at that scenario and things like that. And when I decided to leave, um I had already done the research and I went to cosmetology school. Why? Why did I do that?
SPEAKER_00:And how I don't know, because my mind was like, what, how you want to learn how to put on your makeup?
SPEAKER_01:How and why? Um, well, it turns out that I've always been interested in hair for myself. It's always been kind of the source of artistic expression for me, um, agency. Uh, I experiment with my hair a lot. This is, you know, um one of those things. And and I find um I just get a lot of joy out of it. And I was I have always been interested in hair. I do people's hair, I do my family's hair, always, always been of interest to me. And um, but the kind of this I I did something else. I I went to engineering school and then I got a master's in computer information systems. And nothing wrong with those traditional ways. I'm not suggesting any of that. I'm saying that at this point in my life, I was then 55, maybe. Um, yeah, I was 55. It was it was time for me to leave there and try this. And the reason why I wanted to kind of start with that as I talk about what I'm doing now is that that decision um started a series of um pivots that I had no clue would happen. Um and I use this term as I was talking to Leslie, it just came to me that our generation is wired for we're we're wired for surety, right? You do this because yeah, we you you do this, you you don't become an artist, you become an engineer because that's that's the safe way, that's the sure way of getting to the things that that that we are expected to to want, you know, money, a family, um uh a nice home, cars, all that kind of thing, right?
SPEAKER_00:So there's a prescribed yeah, there's a really prescribed pathway to success, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly, right? Um and I recognize that a part of that way that we are wired, we sometimes kind of we sometimes want to see around corners, right? It it kind of means that it's like that is the way that no matter what happens, you'll you'll get to those those goals that you have, right? No matter what happens, you'll get to those goals. You have a college degree and you get a good job, you work for someone and you get to those goals. And I realize in what I'm doing now is that you don't you it you don't always know what's around the corner. And using the strategy of but I want to know, and if I don't know, I'm not gonna start doing this other thing. Because why would I start something without some security? It often leads to us not starting shit. It you know, it's like we're we're we're in that cycle of if I don't know that it's gonna work out exactly the way I want it to, I'm not gonna start it.
SPEAKER_00:I definitely can relate to that. I need that when I get to point B, I want to know what's there, who's there, why is he there, and make sure it's there. You know what I mean? Um yeah, I do. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And and and your your wiring is is more aligned to um we our society is is more aligned to your wiring than to my wiring. As a whole, right? I'm using very broad brushstrokes here, but in in terms of the way that most of the structures in Western society is set up, where you know, there's a a pyramid, a lot of people on the bottom, fewer people on top, um, excellence and um, you know, ingenuity, yeah, but all of that is kind of tied to money, it's tied to um issues of um um being super punctual, being super driven, being super this way, not that way, being super kind of that, which people who are wired like you fit into that structure easier than people wired like me, who, you know, um I've I am comfortable in it because maybe I'm familiar and maybe it's my wiring too, but I'm primarily this really innovative and creative soul. And so um, so what happened is um I I became a licensed um natural hair care specialist. And for those who don't know, that is um 325 hours of instruction, of um practicals, a lot of um um schoolwork um before you get to the the the the part of the training where you're actually working working with hair and working with with clients. Um and then I in in like mid um 2017 I started um a wig brand. I I I turned that down because it was time, um, but it was called Rhythm Wigs. Um you'll see there I did have a YouTube channel. I have quite a few um videos on it, a lot actually. Um, but you'll see me in in that mode. And through that, um uh someone that I that I know told me about an opportunity they they needed um uh some help with a um um a production where a hair person had an emergency. Can you come in and do that? And it was my first, and it was about eight, seven or so years ago. And that's that was how I started working in theater. Really liked it. It was a way to use some of my skills. Um, and I think I gotta say this too, because this is kind of how those the um the going to cosmetology school, even though it was creative, another reason why I did it is because I I wanted to have some certification, right? Because that's a part of how we're socialized too.
SPEAKER_00:That's true.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you you get a diploma, you get a thing.
SPEAKER_00:Agency has to say that you're over here. Give me the stamp to say that people are more comfortable, sure. Exactly, exactly. So traditionally, in our culture, we've been doing hair exactly for getting a hair.
SPEAKER_01:And I gotta tell you, and my classmates, not the not the instruction, because for uh a natural hair care specialist, there's a lot of um uh textbook work around the body, um the systems of the body, because it's it comes from a natural, um, more um uh um more natural way of living, right? When you think about our our natural hair. And so that is, and I think it's because of some of the the um leaders, the the the the people who have left their legacy in the natural hair care um world, they were a part of designing the instruction for this training. So they were kind of infused in it, and I wish I wish those names were coming to me right now, but you've got to forgive me because it's it's just it's just that that time. But anyway, I will put their names in the description because I do want to call them out. And and some of you will recognize those those people. Um, so there was a lot of learning about the body and different oils and and how they affect the body and things like that. But when it comes to doing hair, hands down, my classmates, um, and I'd say me too, knew more about doing hair than our instructors.
SPEAKER_00:We did because, like you said, it's a culture thing. We grew up with it. Every all of us can tell stories about sitting between our our elders' knees, yep, getting our hair done on a Sunday or whenever. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:Um, and it's almost like it makes me think about midwifery, which used to be in African-American communities, that used to be a passed-on, you know. If you were a midwife, it was because your grand, your mother, your grandmother. Yeah, it used to be this passed down thing, but another story about how why that changed um uh in very deliberate ways. Um negative and deliberate ways. But anyway, so I really wanted to do this, and it what I'm doing now is I'm working on a production of um legally legally blonde, the musical, and I am the um hair and wig designer for the production. At this point, we're 40 something wigs, we'll probably get it down to 30 to 30 something. And so day before yesterday, I spent like four hours in Beauty World.
SPEAKER_00:That's like this is my life. Beauty World is what? What is Beauty World? Is that like an amusement park for musicians?
SPEAKER_01:For me, yes. It is this huge uh, it's this huge uh beauty supply place, but it's unlike kind of the the ones that you may be used to in your community because everyone who comes to my town and I take there, and I mean these are people who work on Broadway sometimes, right? Right, and I take them to my beauty world, they're shocked at the at how huge it is and how many wigs they have right there. Yes. Wow, we gotta stop by there. It's it's it's it's incredible. So I was there for hours and um my partner was was visiting me.
SPEAKER_02:How did they deal with it?
SPEAKER_01:Was visiting me this weekend, and you know, you pop in, you figure you just a half an hour, 45 minutes, whatever, to pick up a few things. Four hours later, we're walking out. We came in when it was sunny. We left when it was because listen, you you you know it's it's an amusement part. You need you need what you need, right? And you're thinking, you're thinking about what's gonna be on stage, you're thinking about the shape of the person's face, you're thinking about who is gonna be running, running the show. I get it. All that so it it da it's a whole thing, and so I wanted to kind of show you like I have this right here. So, like kind of how all of this stuff comes together. So this this is for one of the characters, right? And I'm doing um, I'm just doing some experimentation, which which I really like how it turned out. So this this is one of the characters, she's actually a uh salon owner. And I she she dreams of Ireland and you know, wanting to be with a with um uh Irish guy and whatever, and red hair and so on. Um, and so I gave her red hair. And then what is that? You you have to think, well, you have to think about what was going on at in this period, right? Which was in the um 2000s, um, mid to late 2000s, and so blocking kind of color color having um thick highlights were a part of um this the style for um certain people, as Karen Hunter would say, for non-melanated people in in that time. So I wanted to kind of punch up her hair, and so I found these tracks. You see that? Can you see that? Yes, yeah, with this hair, it's called peach. Okay, and I'm just kind of playing with where I want it to be, because this is this is kind of how how it the the hair looks normally. Wow, yeah, I'm playing with what I want, but I decided that crimping was a big thing then too. So I'm doing these braids because ultimately, and you guys know because if any of you um have either had your hair braided, you go to the African hair braiding, they dip your hair with with um boiling water, they dip the ends of your hair. It's synthetic, so it causes your hair to take the shape, take the curl. If you curl it and dip it in hot water, I see. Or if you braid it and dip it in hot water, it gets these um, it gets this look, right? And so it kind of evokes crimping. I I could see that for sure.
SPEAKER_00:And you did that just with braid, braiding? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So when I so this was just me experimenting, and then I like it. And so now I I sewed in, I sewed in these these tracks in here. Um, they're they're two, but I doubled it, and then I braided it. So um I'm gonna dip these in in um in uh boiling water, and they too will crim and it's gonna look beautiful because it's legally blonde, and based on what she's gonna be wearing, this color. So, so here's the thing, because this is not about hair.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, you go on. I got a couple questions. Sure. One, how do you know what the hair was like in the 2000s? How do you know, like, what's the backstory? What kind of uh investigation or research do you do before you get into this?
SPEAKER_01:Well, that's it. You you you have to research with any with any um any production that you work on, you have to do your own research, right? And so it's research, it's also having your own point of view. And that that is another thing about kind of the self-awareness stuff that that I talk about quite often is um because it allows you to develop a a certain amount of confidence in what you bring to the table. And um, for me, working in this industry, it has it has been so important to um to show up fully because you know you have all these creatives working on a project like this. You have the director, you have the um uh the stage management team, you have the the um costume team, um, you you have lighting, you have sound, you have all of these creatives working on these projects. And you each person is really responsible for bringing their own point of view to the production, right?
SPEAKER_00:That's true.
SPEAKER_01:So I'll give you um one example of something that I did where it really kind of forced me to do what I'm talking about here, where it wasn't super comfortable for me to do, but it was when I was working on um on uh the color purple, right? And I you know the story, but but but I I like to tell the story because it just brings some of these ideas together in a in um a very clear and tangible ways for people, right? Where if you're in uh certain spaces, yeah, it's so important to know who you are and and the ways that you are gifted so that you could show up fully as that person when you're in these spaces, right? That you're you're not in these spaces and then you kind of diminish yourself. You're always talking about shining your light and not having your light under the table, that type of thing, right? So you're in these spaces, and um, I'm not a theater kid, I haven't been in theater for decades, and so it's it would have been um quite um I guess natural for me to kind of shrink back and just kind of fall into the background kind of thing. But what I was working on this production, and you know, this is this is an iconic um book turned into play, turned into movie, and there is a scene where um the character Seely is combing Suge Avery, who is the this starlet who used to be the the lover of Seely's husband, abusive husband, and Seely is really attracted to um to Suge, and she's giving her a bath. Seely is giving Suge a bath, and she's tending to her hair, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And that moment for me, and Leslie and I, you've you and I have talked about when this happened on um when this happened on um on but what is that show? It's called With Viola Davis.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, with Viola.
SPEAKER_01:How to get away with murder. How to get away with murder. When she Cicely Tyson played her mom, and she um she came in just kind of drained and broken. Uh really, yeah, yeah. And Cicely Tyson, she sat down and sit and she took off her wig, she sat down and was scratching her scalp and soothing her. Like you said, it's a part of our culture, right? Yeah, and so this moment of Celie um tending to Suge's scalp, it was expected to be had to have these women wigged. Um in the very next scene, very quickly, Suge was going to be um at a um juke joint dressed up with her hair pin curls. And so for me, what I refuse to have happen is for this to be a wigged moment when I know that this is such a tender moment in black commun communities.
SPEAKER_00:Our communities in our community of these communities. We all have our experience. We all have it.
SPEAKER_01:And so, so you know, I I was like, okay, but if there's no wig on her, then I got to get the wig on her in whatever, a minute, 30 seconds before she goes into the next scene.
SPEAKER_00:So I but but it wasn't from what you've told me, it wasn't also just scene expediency that made you think about that. I mean, obviously you had to do that in terms of the stuff. Yeah, I had to pull it off. So knew that hair in its most raw state, let's just say, or natural state, is what we all experienced, you know, before it was processed into pin curls or put on rollers. I remember Sunday night I had to sleep in those big orange rollers for school the next day.
SPEAKER_01:Didn't we all, where you kind of sit up a little bit?
SPEAKER_00:Oh my gosh, because it was so painful, it's like you had this all plastic. But it was only me.
SPEAKER_01:Um well, it turned out that the actor playing Shug had her hair, um, it was it was braided braid down, right? She had it all going back, and that would have been um an okay um hairstyle for it for the period. It was just cornroad back, nothing fancy. And I said to the director, I really want to try this. I want to try her not being in a wig. And he said, if you can get the wig back on her in a minute and 30 seconds, because she had to change her costume and she had to put a wig on in a very short period of time. And we tried it and it worked. And I'm super, super, super, super proud of saying that because I just felt like the black people in the audience, it it wouldn't have hit, it wouldn't have hit the same way. No, we know, right? And I think that might have gone over other people's head. Not not a big deal. It wouldn't have, you know, um uh changed how they experience the the performance at all. But I knew that the perspective that I was bringing in particular, this hair perspective that I have, this black woman perspective that I have, um, I felt like it was really important. It was a moment to capture.
SPEAKER_00:And you know, we've talked about this and the richness and the beauty and the importance of diversity. Yeah. If your voice with your experience, your you in your entirety didn't come to that instance in that moment, it would have been, like you said, just okay. Yeah, but it didn't have that rich nuance. Right, right. That I think was important. I alright, I'll let you finish your story, but I also want to ask you about your experience doing the Motown um show. Oh Lord. And how you how you brought your sensibility to that production.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Um well, I'll talk about that because the point that I want to make is the same point, you know, that I that I took away from both of them. And it's a part of what I want to kind of express here um around um just working on your uh knowing yourself and like I always like to say, and being amazed by yourself. How important that is, and how much the the the the people that you interact with and the things that you touch, how much they are made better when they come from that that place. Um what Leslie's talking about in the Motown thing, um, I was working on this production, it was um Dancing in the streets, um, and it was at a uh predominantly white institution, uh university. And um so most of the it was a dance performance, and most of the um the students were white, of course, predominantly like white institution. And I was kind of faced with this how do I represent hair in this period because it's Motown, so the 50s, um, 60s, 60s, yeah. Um, how do I have names and Diana Ross and for some the Jackson 5 and how do I represent hair in this performance where it wasn't like people were doing black, right? We we have a whole history. But you did not want a caricature, didn't didn't want that at all, didn't want any, you know, um minstrel adjacent nothing.
SPEAKER_00:You know I'm not putting afro wigs on these students, right? Just you know, you know they will not be wearing afro wigs. And so I said here you go start in trouble.
SPEAKER_01:And listen, but it's good to have these points of view, whatever they are, it's good to have them because you know, and this is something I wrestled with. Like I spoke to my sister how she would kind of approach us because um I spoke to my niece who's who's who's into hair just like me, and my sister because she she's just really um uh just really knowledgeable about um African-American, Afro-Caribbean um diasporic history and kind of how to approach this. And at the end of the day, what I ended up doing is we're gonna kind of um tone down the the hair story on on stage. There are some styles that we did that were appropriate for the period, but what I did in addition to that is um create an exhibit that it was agreed would go in the lobby of the um of the auditorium that told the story. It was like um the behind behind the scenes story of Motown where hair was like the central theme to it.
SPEAKER_00:And so you took the actual hair, the look and the vision, visuals of the hair, and put it in the lobby to set the stage before the production. And then they went in and they were not wearing afro wigs, nothing like that. I had a couple pick in it.
SPEAKER_01:It was a it was a it was a whole design of the exhibit. So so the design became the exhibit, and I did have um two mannequins that represented one was you know, kind of in the 60s, and um the The leather jacket with the fringes and that, and he had an afro. And I like this is an opportunity. You want to touch an afro, touch this one, kind of thing. Then I had like a chance, you know, kind of buffon style um evoking uh the Supremes. And I think Leslie asked me to mention that because at the end of the day, what what these outcomes that I believe and I've been told made such a difference came from having a strong point of view and having the confidence to speak it and to make it happen.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Right. And so and here's another thing that I recognize when these kind of doubts come in my head, not necessarily imposter syndrome per se, but sometimes you feel it's easier to stay quiet in a large room where there might be, you know, dissenting um opinions that don't match yours. But when you leave that room, boy, do you have that wrestle and battle with yourself. I should have said something. It beeps at you. Right. It eats at you for a reason. The thing that I try to remember is that I was chosen for a reason. They chose me, they wanted me to be there. And as a result, or you chose them. Whatever it is, you were there for a reason. As a result, exactly, exactly. Now's my time. Now is your time. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Let's go. Yeah. Let's go. And that is how our conversation kind of meandered around um hair. And when we did the live on um Stephanie Perry's channel, uh towards the end, I mentioned that I um I was in the the the the hair business, and a few people who followed up with me after mentioned that they reached out to me because I said that. And so I thought, well, let me talk a little bit and and explain how I got there, what I'm doing now. Um, it is an avenue for people who are, you know, hair people, whether you are a salon owner or you work in a salon or you're kitchen, um whether you're a kitchen beautician. And the theater is a place that you're you can bring your skills. And um, you know, reach out to me uh if there's anything that I can help you to kind of even just think it through, think about the possibility of it. Um, because I think there's always uh a need for good um people with with good hair hair skills, especially for black and brown people who don't have the opportunity who to work with people who understand their hair. Um and and I'm still shocked at how much I still hear that. You think that in this you know, when when a when a when a uh a turn happens, that the turn is complete, that you know it's kind of filtered down to everyone. This is taken care of over. And it's not exactly, I don't need to do this anymore. No, yes, you do, and it's so if you're interested in working in theater, so you were free. No, it ain't over. So so you know, when when you know you hear Leslie and I talking about joy, and when I talk about joyful money making, this is a part of it for me. I got to spend four hours in Beauty World as a part of my job, like I got to as a part of my work. This is how I make money, this is how I make money, and I I I chose this for myself. And there's so much joy wrapped up in it. I get to, I get to play with with peach peach hair and and and you know create beautiful um characters on stage. It's a it's it's it's such a source of of fulfillment for me. Um, so we're talking about it because a part of our joy my joy journey. Right.
SPEAKER_00:And I love that you are actually describing a bold move. It it took courage to do it, you know. It was it was a courageous act, I know. It was a it was a courageous act, but so many, so often we shrink, you know, from these things. It's like, that's too hard. That's too hard.
SPEAKER_01:Or I can't, or it's so different. Yeah, yeah. It's so and I think that's what I what I'd like to kind of maybe close if we're probably at time, close with is this idea that um, you know, I didn't know when I was starting beauty school that this is this is what I would be doing, right? I I had some kind of framing, but it was really mostly because, hey, this is a chance that I get to do the something that I've always wanted to do.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right. Right.
SPEAKER_01:And and I was clear about who I wanted to serve because the my my wig brand was for um um black woman 40 and discerning black women 40 and over. Um, it was a curly hairline because that's that's what I wanted to do. That's what you can do as an entrepreneur is to create things that um really um feed your passion. What is it? Your passion. What is the um Aki Guy? Your passion. It's three parts. It's what's what's your passion, what people need, and what is gonna bring you into that profitable and those three things coming together, that sweet spot is is what I got out of my um my rhythm wigs. So so anyway, and so now I'm doing theater, I do it um as often as as I like. Um, I do maybe two or three productions a year, and it's a part of what I do. You all know that I also coach and so on, but the again, just yeah, you don't always have to know every part of it. Um I'm looking right now that at a at a sign that someone gave me about um um about being being a light. I can't I can't read the whole thing, about being a the the light, it's scripture. Um and so sometimes we expect that that the light is gonna shine way into the future so we can see everything that's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_00:You know, like okay, this is gonna work.
SPEAKER_01:That's not gonna work. When it really talks about lighting, lighting your path, lighting your feet, right? And and and just being able to sometimes see just where your feet are right now. Just where you are is is that's boring to me. Sometimes when we're way over there at the ledge, it's like, well, what am I gonna do to jump off? Well, you're not even there yet. You're not even there yet. You can think about it, but you're not, you're right here. What are you what you're right here? What ledge? What are you talking about? You're right here, and those fears about what you're gonna do when you're at the ledge, you're you're you're making them manifest in a big way right now when they're way over there. And guess what? By the time you get there, the things that you were worried about, they're not there. There may be some things, but the things that you have um Caleb in the Bible.
SPEAKER_00:Is that I don't know, tell me. He went up ahead, he and I don't recall who else.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, this was this was this was before in the old testament.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, before Moses. And they were supposed to go ahead and forge away or whatever. They went and they're like, wait a minute, there are giants out there. We are not going that way. Our trip stops here. Uh, you know, it's but some of us do get paralyzed by that type of thing. I understand. Especially, Ange, here's the thing. Especially if you're in a circumstance or a lifestyle that's somewhat comfortable. Yes, you're not thrown out of it, right? It has been working for you so far.
SPEAKER_01:Right. You know what I mean? But what is that working for you?
SPEAKER_00:Like, what does that mean?
SPEAKER_01:Is it basic? Is it basic working for you? Is it mediocrity? But we want some of us Yes, some of us.
SPEAKER_00:Tell me. Just talk about somebody I'm familiar with. Uh are comfortable with basic needs met. You know, it's like some of us don't need to reach higher. You know what I mean? We don't want to rock the boat and things like that. I really do understand that mindset.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so so my thing isn't rock the boat necessarily, right? My thing is not rocking the boat. Quit hope. And then I'll just I'm just saying rocking the boat. That's me.
SPEAKER_00:I do have fear. I have a lot of fear about it, but it doesn't stop me.
SPEAKER_01:But I have a lot of fear. What are you talking about? I had a lot of fear, but it didn't stop me. And the thing is, I'm just saying you I'm not expecting y'all to be like me. That's not what this is about. It's not what this is about. I'm saying if you have discontent, if you have discontent, then act on that. Then then inquire about where that's coming from. If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands. Right? But if you have discontent, especially as we get older, and it's like, ooh, I really wish that I wish yes.
SPEAKER_00:You know what I mean? If you're feeling like you're ready for something. That's what I'm talking about. I think I'm gonna if I don't try, try. Right. If I don't try, I think I'm gonna be miserable.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly. That's what I mean. If you're if you're regret, if you're content, if you feel fulfilled where you are, absolutely, I promise you, there's zero judgment around that. I'm saying that if you feel that a rumbling, if you feel like you know, like really like this is if it keeps coming back, even when you try to, even when you try to turn it down, if it keeps, you know, coming back. Inquire about you know what that could be and how that could create a real shift for you. Yeah. So I'll I'll post some pictures when this is done. Okay. I'm kind of getting a little inspiration from a style I saw that Tyra Banks wear back in the 2000s. Um, I think that's the way that I'm gonna style it. It's gonna kind of be up, kind of like an up-down, um, uh half up, half, half down, but messy. So I'll show you. I guess we'll see.
SPEAKER_00:You will see. Well, thanks for sharing, Ange. You're welcome. So this has been another episode of Black Boomer Besties from Brooklyn.
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