🚀 Struggling to land more MSP clients? You’re not alone.

In this live session, we dive deep into the real challenges MSPs face in sales—and how to overcome them. Featuring Robert Gillette, a sales expert who helped scale an MSP from $10M to $30M, we break down the biggest mistakes MSPs make and the key to winning more deals with confidence.

🔹 Why most MSPs struggle with lead generation (and how to fix it)
🔹 The #1 sales myth that holds you back
🔹 How repetition & practice can skyrocket your close rate
🔹 The secret behind the Dream 100 strategy for building long-term client relationships
🔹 Why your authenticity is your biggest sales advantage

🎤 Plus, don’t miss Robert’s insights on selling cybersecurity—even when prospects "don’t care."

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In this episode, co-hosts Jeff Loehr and Joe Rojas discuss a sales strategy that makes selling easier and more natural, and according to those who study this sort of thing at Harvard, 86% more effective. 

The key is to negotiate with your prospects, rather than against them, and show them how you solve a key problem they know they have. Join us to get the prescriptive sales formula for MSPs.

Tune in to learn valuable knowledge from this dynamic duo as they offer a solution for improving your sales conversations.

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In this episode, co-hosts Jeff Loehr and Joe Rojas discuss a strategy for MSPs to acquire new clients without resorting to cold calling or using expensive marketing strategies.

This tried and true strategy is simple and very effective.

Tune in to gain valuable knowledge from this dynamic duo as they give you the solution to getting your next clients.

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In this episode of Start Grow Manage, co-hosts Jeff Loehr and Joe Rojas explore the transformative concept of the "Jobs to Be Done" framework and its significant impact on how MSPs should approach selling technology. They discuss the necessity of seeing technology not merely as a product but as a strategic tool for solving real business problems.

They are joined by guest Greg Plum, who brings his expertise on effective MSP partnerships and the power of ecosystem thinking to the discussion. Greg shares insights on how MSPs can enhance their growth and service delivery through strategic alliances and a deep understanding of their clients' needs.

If you're interested in shifting your perspective from simply providing technology to solving critical business challenges with strategic partnerships, then this episode of the Start Grow Manage podcast is a must-listen.

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In this episode of Start Grow Manage, co-hosts Jeff Loehr and Joe Rojas delve into the pivotal role of content creation for MSPs. They then emphasize the significance of relevant content in sales and marketing, with Joe highlighting its impact on nurturing leads and closing sales. 

They are then joined by guest, Devon Rose who adds depth to the conversation with his expertise in marketing for MSPs, focusing on the challenges posed by ransomware and the importance of industry-specific content.

So, if you are interested in marketing for your MSP with content that really matters and not simply make "noise", then you should tune into this episode of the Start Grow Manage podcast.
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In this episode of Start Grow Manage, co-hosts Jeff Loehr and Joe Rojas are joined by Scott Samborn, an entrepreneur and business leader with a history of managing and growing technology organizations. They discuss best practices to creating a scalable Managed Service Provider (MSP) business.

They also discuss the importance of custom solutions over a "cookie cutter" approach, the significance of maintaining customer relationships, marketing strategies, and the advantages of implementing value-added solutions.

So, if you are interested in starting, growing, and eventually selling an MSP or just want to scale your MSP, tune in and discover the importance of strategic business reviews (SBRs), customer profitability, and the concept of “noise” in customer relationships.

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In this episode of Start Grow Manage, co-hosts Jeff Loehr and Joe Rojas engage in a thought-provoking discussion with Rich Freeman, a seasoned observer of the MSP landscape likened to a war correspondent for his deep industry insights. The conversation kicks off with a bold claim – that this year might mark the end of MSPs as we know them, given the rapid advancements in AI and the challenges posed by the Internet of Things (IoT).

Rich also shares his three S’s for MSP success: Scale, Standardization, and Specialization. Scale involves anticipating growth and preparing the business accordingly. Standardization refers to narrowing down the solution stack and having documented operating processes for efficiency. Specialization is about being an expert in a particular field, setting you apart from competitors.

So if you don't want your MSP to die, then tune in and discover the fourth and latest addition to the S's for MSP success. 

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In this episode of Start Grow Manage, Jeff Loehr and Joe Rojas are joined by Trevor Thomas from ZenContract to explore the importance of establishing structured processes for managed service providers (MSPs). 

Trevor also shares how niching can enhance business performance by providing a clearer understanding of market needs and improved service delivery.

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In this episode, Jeff Loehr and Joe Rojas welcomed Matt Bullock from Prodatix, where they discussed the shifting landscape of Managed Service Providers (MSPs). They emphasized that MSPs should focus on what they do best and partner with experts in other areas, such as data backup and security, to provide comprehensive solutions to their clients.

The conversation highlights the shift in the MSP market towards outsourcing and project management. Many successful MSPs are now acting as project managers, bringing in various specialized partners to handle different aspects of IT services. This approach allows MSPs to scale their businesses and offer high-quality solutions without spreading themselves too thin.

For MSPs to adjust to the shifting landscape, they need to understand the importance of specialization and partnerships in delivering top-notch IT services while allowing MSPs to focus on what they do best.

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In this episode, Jeff Loehr and Joe Rojas welcomed Kathryn Rose, the visionary behind ChannelWise. She emphasized the importance of defining a niche in today's saturated MSP market. The conversation revolved around the common fear of narrowing down to a niche, where many businesses worry about limiting their reach. However, as the discussion revealed, honing a niche allows providers to address specific business problems more proficiently. 

Kathryn also touched upon the essence of sales, stating that the core of a successful sales strategy is understanding and solving client problems rather than merely selling products. She introduced the ChannelWise Coaching Cafe, a space where experts provide valuable insights to MSPs. Throughout the conversation, the trio converged on the idea that business, at its heart, exists to solve problems. 

For MSPs and other businesses to thrive, they must embrace this ethos, ensuring that every sale and every service genuinely addresses a customer's unique challenges.

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In this episode, Jeff Loehr and Joe Rojas welcomed Jennifer Bleam of MSP Sales Revolution to discuss effective sales strategies. Jennifer stressed the significance of trust and rapport in sales, underscoring the importance of building genuine connections rather than just pushing products. 

A structured sales process is key; it establishes credibility and ensures clarity in engagements. We especially discussed the hot topic of objections. Instead of viewing them as roadblocks, Jennifer sees objections as indicators of active engagement, often viewing a lack of objections with suspicion. Drawing from personal anecdotes, she argued everyone has innate selling skills, urging listeners to refine and apply these in business contexts. 

Tune in so you can master sales for your MSP and "Get comfortable leaning into discomfort."

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In this episode, Jeff Loehr, Joe Rojas, and Gavin Garbutt emphasize the importance of MSPs aligning IT solutions with clients' business objectives through focused conversations. Gavin delves into niche verticals that can yield success, as seen with Caltech and Corsica. 

We also discuss the evolution and future of MSPs. This includes managing cloud services, especially with Microsoft, and harnessing AI and big data. We spotlight Augmentt’s multi-tenant solution for top-notch security monitoring and SaaS auditing. Plus, learn about the Augmentt Academy's valuable resources for MSPs to excel in selling cloud security services.

Tune in for insights and tools to navigate the evolving MSP landscape

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In this episode, Jeff Loehr, Joe Rojas, and Steve Salmon delve into the challenges many businesses face when expanding nationwide, particularly the onboarding process. With Steve Salmon's insights, they explore the groundbreaking potential of tools like Field Nation to alleviate these pains.

However, at the episode's heart lies a deeper conversation about mindset: the inherent fears associated with growth, loss of control, and embracing external resources. The dialogue continuously circles back to the value of specializing or "having a niche" – stressing its significance in efficiency, process formulation, and confidence-building. 

Amidst discussions on the perceived decline of the MSP model, they highlight the importance of adapting to an ever-evolving business landscape, focusing on genuine customer pain points, and steering clear of fleeting trends. Join them as they navigate these intricate terrains and converse with Steve about the future of MSPs.

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In this episode, Jeff Loehr, Tim Fitzpatrick, and Joe Rojas discuss the benefits of niching down, finding the marketing channels that resonate with you, and the importance of customer onboarding.

They emphasize the value of understanding your target market and crafting a message that speaks directly to them, as well as optimizing referral systems and creating a super-targeted list to attract ideal clients.

They also address the fear of going too narrow with your niche and the delivery challenge that comes with it but stress that niching down ultimately leads to higher profitability and more enjoyable work.

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Chris Bintiff joins us to discuss the role of AI in the MSP business. Discover how new technologies can push the boundaries of your growth and competitiveness.

In this podcast episode, Joe and Jeff are joined by Chris Bintiff, founder of Not Really Rocket Science and MarketingSpark.ai, discuss the role of AI in the MSP business. 

Discover how new technologies can push the boundaries of your growth and competitiveness. And how becoming an expert in a focused niche can really make your MSP stand out from the crowd (and allow you to charge more for your services).

Tune in for this insightful conversation on artificial intelligence, niching down, the final 3% of a project, and more. 

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In this podcast episode, Joe, Jeff, and Robert Goodman, a software developer-turned-president of Technical Interviewers, dive into a conversation about hiring for technical talent. With an extensive background in IT, Goodman recounts his unique journey into recruitment, identifying the disconnect between hirers and the desired IT talent.

He highlights the challenges MSPs face in identifying genuinely skilled candidates due to non-formal learning paths and the fallibility of certification exams. Sharing real-world experiences, Goodman emphasizes that effective recruitment remains a deeply human, time-consuming process.

Listen to understand the intricacies of tech hiring and learn how to separate the wheat from the chaff in the world of IT recruitment. Tune in for this insightful conversation on why MSPs struggle to hire and guidance on how to make the process less painful for both the MSP and the candidates.

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In this podcast episode, Joe, Jeff, and John Harden of Auvik dive into the sea of change in SaaS management for MSPs. From a 'blue ocean market' where no one saw the need to manage their SaaS, we're now in a dynamic environment where businesses are asking, 'How do I manage my SaaS?'

Combine this shift with Auvik's growth and you have a one-two punch sparking acceleration in the industry. Tune in for this insightful discussion on market timing, business maturity, and the evolution of SaaS management!

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In this podcast episode, Joe, Jeff, and Mitch Kranitz discuss Mitch’s journey from MSP to print vendor. He discusses how he went about building a successful print business while avoiding common challenges. The “print partner” concept has been instrumental in his success.

By forming a close working relationship with MSPs, he has found that he is able to help them avoid the difficulties that often arise when working with random print vendors.

Mitch and his team work with a wide range of MSPs across the US. They have over 450 MSP referral partners that they collaborate with. They have a proven track record of identifying and pursuing high-quality opportunities, and they are committed to building strong relationships with their sales reps and MSPs.

Overall, Mitch’s journey and the success of his business offer valuable insights for anyone looking to build a successful print business and form strong partnerships with MSPs.

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In this podcast episode, Joe, Jeff, and Hartland Ross discuss the importance of having an exit strategy and processes in place for MSPs to avoid burnout and increase the value of their business. 

He also highlights the benefits of acquiring and growing a book of business and advises sellers to understand the limitations of their business and what it is worth.

The conversation also touches on the emotional process of selling a business and how one may want to consider what they plan to do once the business is sold.

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In this podcast episode, Joe, Jeff, and Lisa discuss the importance of penetration testing for identifying network weaknesses and improving security posture. 

MSPs can work with third-party testers to gain insight and transparency throughout the engagement and provide better security recommendations to clients. 

Lisa also highlights the risks of phishing emails and weak passwords, emphasizing the need for vigilance and education in all areas of cybersecurity.

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In this podcast episode, Joe, Jeff and Antoine discuss JumpCloud, a platform that solves many problems for MSPs (Managed Service Providers) by centralizing identity access and device management capabilities. Antoine shares his story of building MYKI, a decentralized password manager, and how it led him to JumpCloud's focus on a passwordless world. The episode also highlights the importance of MSPs becoming thought leaders in cybersecurity and partnering with the right vendors to provide the best services to their clients. 

So listen in to hear what Antoine's vision is for the future of MSPs and his advice for MSPs to build strong foundations for their business.

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In this episode of the Start Grow Manage Podcast, we sit down with Mac McKeon from MacGyver Technology to discuss the importance of pen testing and how it can be used by MSPs to improve the security of the businesses they serve. Mac shares his experience working with MSPs and the horror stories he's seen with insecure IoT devices. He also talks about how his team helps companies build secure, efficient systems that can easily scale.

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On this episode of the Start Grow Manage Podcast, guest Damien Stevens discusses the importance of having the right people and processes in place for a successful business, particularly in the context of managing backups for MSPs. He also shares his own experiences and offers advice for those struggling in their businesses, emphasizing the importance of vulnerability and seeking help from others in the community.

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Today we're discussing the importance of adjusting our perspectives. It's pretty common for business owners, especially those in the MSP world, to fall into the been there, done that mindset. They reflect on their experiences, ponder future ideas, and make decisions about what's ahead like it's a foregone conclusion. Sometimes this approach works, but often it limits potential and opportunities because we're so sure something won't work or isn't right for us, just because we tried it years ago.When we think we know it all and have nothing left to learn, our ability to grow takes a serious hit. Let's dive in today and work on refreshing our mindsets. And hey, don't miss our bonus chat about how Joe's daughter is a digital art entrepreneur and Jeff's kids are sort of black-hat hackers now (not really, but they're definitely dabbling in gray-hat territory). 

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Today Joe and Jeff are joined by Layne Frank of BBH Solutions, an MSP succeeding in business for more than 30 years. Together we're discussing some essentials - how to sell MSP services, the success BBH Solutions has had in niche-ing down (choosing the right avatar!) and focusing on what they do best and for whom they do it. This episode is part history lesson on what it takes to achieve long-term success as an MSP, and a masterclass in how identifying and treating your customers helps create that kind of success, as well as the value of cultivating a network. Discover the secrets to success from an experienced MSP provider, and the power of passion that can help you achieve your goals. Featuring Joe Rojas and Jeff Loehr and Layne Frank

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