Feminine Legacy Podcast With Jacqueline Hyacinth
Welcome to the feminine legacy podcast. This is an evolutionary platform where we gather to share our stories and wisdom, with the intent to preserve the sacred, and create meaningful legacies to impact future generations. Through live transmissions and conscious conversations we bring light into the darkness and lean into the mystery delving into topics include: womb wisdom, ancestral medicine, spiritual healing, rites of passage, feminine leadership and embodiment, sex, birth, death and so much more ... The future is now! Dream with us...
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Feminine Legacy Podcast With Jacqueline Hyacinth
Episode 49 ~ Awakening Lineage Magic Through Womb Wisdom
What if certain places on Earth possess the power to transform your soul? Join me, Jacqueline Hyacinth, as I share an intimate conversation with Jade Bertaud, womb awakening mentor and ancestral alchemist. Jade takes us through her unique journey from France to the U.S..,rooting her in Mama Bali.
We traverse through the rich tapestry of Magdalene lineages and explore their resurgence in our creative lives. Jade and I open up about our personal experiences with womb awakening and feminine shamanism, uncovering how these practices have reshaped our identities and brought enormous healing. This episode also touches on the transformative power of understanding one's lineage, emphasizing the interconnectedness of souls across lifetimes and the importance of spiritual authority in trusting our inner voice.
Our discussion unfolds to examine the impact of cultural conditioning and ancestral patterns on our spiritual journeys. Through personal stories, we reveal how early influences shape our adult paths and the capacity for familial and collective transformation. This episode brings to light the essential roles of mentorship, radical nourishment, and the creation of supportive structures. Jade and I offer insights into the power of lineage, the necessity of co-creating new realities, and the perpetual cycles of life, death and rebirth.
To get in touch with Jade Bertraud: www.jadebertaud.com
Jacqueline Rolandelli: www.ourfemininelegacy.com
Welcome to the Feminine Legacy Podcast. This is an evolutionary platform where we gather to share our stories and wisdom with the intent to preserve the sacred and create meaningful legacies to impact future generations. Through live transmissions and conscious conversations, we bring light into the darkness and lean into the mysteries, Delving into womb wisdom, ancestral medicine, motherhood, feminine leadership and embodiment, sex, birth, death and so much more. The future is now Dream with us. I'm your host, Jacqueline Hyacinth mother, mystic, healer and feminine embodiment mentor. I offer training, healing, education and rites of passage.
Speaker 1:You can book your first session and sign up to receive a free gift at OurFeminineLegacycom. I'll drop the link in the show notes. With my whole heart, thanks for tuning in and, without further ado, let's get into this week's episode. Hey everybody and welcome to the Feminine Legacy Podcast. This is your host, Jacqueline Hyacinth. Today I'm thrilled to bring on a dear sister and a colleague, Jade Bertad, and she is in Bali and she is a womb awakening mentor, an ancestral alchemist, a magical woman who is deeply devoted to mentoring and supporting the upliftment of the divine feminine and the magic of leadership that is inherent to all women who so choose it. Welcome, Jade, I'm so glad to have you here.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 1:So just for a little background for those that will be listening, jade and I did training together with the Fountain of Life, so we have some lineage, roots that are related and heart of service in that connection. So it's really beautiful to come back in and have this time together to share and, yeah, and see what wants to move.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be a beautiful journey. It is, it is.
Speaker 1:So, jade, let's start in the beginning. So right now you are in Bali and do you feel called to just speak a little bit about roots?
Speaker 2:little bit about roots, my current roots in bali, like your roots in bali and french background, just like weaving a little bit of the, the land, the love story, the love story with gaia, um, yeah, so I come from a laoish and french background. My mom mom is from Laos and came to France when she was six, and my dad is French, and I was born in the south of France and I grew up there until I was about 13, this magical, magical age of 13. And, yeah, love my motherland of France so deeply. And then, yeah, our family moved to the US, to Texas, and it was like moving into another, another dimension. Um, yeah, so I, you know, I spent the second half of my life really in Texas, but also traveling our beautiful planet.
Speaker 2:And then, in 2016, I came to Bali for the first time and I had felt a call to come for a very long time. She was always in my dream, she was always in my heart and, yeah, when I first came here, it was such a deep remembrance and actually I really had my womb awakening. Here is, yeah, it's where I kind of this amazing transmission and awakening of energy from the earth came through my womb, and so, yeah, it became like a love affair with bali. I was coming here, you know, every year like a real need to be here two to three months a year, um, and then eventually moved here in 2019 and it's been, yes, such a an immense, magical journey. She's, she's a spiritual mother to me. She's held me in my saturn's return, she's held me in the pandemic and in the deepest alchemical time of my life. So, yeah, she's, she's my great love and, yeah, infinitely grateful for her, for her body, for her womb and everything that she's nourished me with over the years I love that you brought up that.
Speaker 1:That's where a lot of that initiations were happening with the womb awakening I I find it fascinating, where we feel most held, where our souls want to be held in the land, for us to access some of this higher qualitative consciousness and wisdom like to, because obviously we know as women who have had to transverse terrain and go quite deep to be able to be held and contained in a particular way. It's powerful.
Speaker 2:It's incredible. It's such an intimate relationship and a lot of people feel this with Bali, but she, she really has like a voice. You know it's a volcanic island and so, yeah, from the first time I came here, it's like she was.
Speaker 1:She was speaking to me, she was talking to me, she was mentoring me and it was yeah, it's where I was mostly based when we were in our mentorship, and I also like, how we mentioned before, we even got on this like needing to be somewhere other than where your soul originated, right, like that's also really, really interesting for sure, yeah, so how do you feel like it informed your journey?
Speaker 1:feel like it is. The places that we are called to go to are places where we have power spots from other lifetimes. Yeah, so those um places have a particular holding, um that it's almost like I. For people that you will understand this, but for those that don't, it's like watching harry potter and how the, the soul, is split into different pieces.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah oh my god, yes, yes, it's like the horcrux, only not with black magic, and and it's like our souls, particularly, leave something behind.
Speaker 1:In order for us to regenerate and to do particular things, there's a resurgence of alchemy that has to happen between the body and the physical land for us to like, truly embody and manifest the energy in this incarnation, because some places you have to physically go with your feet right, because the body has to be present, um, and then, once you've touched it, you can access it generally. But there's this. So I feel like it informs, because it allows um, like as it really allows it to come into the form, because, like many of our lifetimes, we have to train every time we come in like, even though those, some of those gifts will, it's like um, you still have to actually get the channels into the body and, like, bring it here for this particular form so, yeah, completely yeah, and you know, and I, I, my experience also has been that mama earth needs us, she wants us there, she wants to feel our body, our soul, signature.
Speaker 2:She, she needs us there too to reactivateate the spirit in the land. And yeah, it's amazing as she tells us where she wants us. Yep.
Speaker 1:And it also I love that you mirror that piece, because then it's also this co-creative relationship that we have with her from before. So it's like, yes, she needs us, we need her, and it's like we agree to do this together. Yeah, so it's like come to me, I got you and we're gonna do this thing. And then we know that, like all these souls shows up you know all of the there's so many different beings that come to participate in in the extraordinary um experience of us reigniting this connection yeah, it's incredible.
Speaker 2:It's incredible and it's it's such a surprise. I mean, I feel that there's also, yeah, like a an elemental signature to the lands that we feel called to. And Bali's been surprising to me because some of what I found was maybe not what I expected or not what I imagined. And, um, the first time I came here and I went to the very north of Bali, which is a bit away from you know, some of the the tourism spots, and it's amazing because when in Bali, when you go to the north, it's like we all might have this idea of Bali and it's. It is what it's like.
Speaker 2:You know, you've got the jungle, you've got the palm trees and this beautiful kind of rural nature, but as you begin to go north and you move past this huge volcano called Mount Pator, that is like the womb of the island.
Speaker 2:It's it's dark, it's black.
Speaker 2:You're up in the mountains, it's actually it's cold.
Speaker 2:The volcano is still active, you know, and you have these ancient primordial forests with these huge pine trees, and you would maybe not believe that you're in Bali at that point and that's where there's still some of the really indigenous lineages of of balinese people that were here before the majapahit colonization, and so you move past this landscape and it's really mystical and there's a lot of very ancient animist history there, and then you pass through that and then you arrive in the north of Bali and it has, like the north of Bali really holds this for me, this like remembrance of the first time of this Edenic consciousness and the first time I I went there I I hadn't been in the sea in a really long time at that point, and the moment I entered the water it was like I shapeshifted into an ancient mermaid self, you know, and it was ecstatic and so beautiful. And so, yeah, there's these incredible elemental portals in the land too that activate this elemental remembrance in us absolutely oh, that's, so beautiful, jade, yeah it makes me think too about.
Speaker 1:you know, we were talking about and we'll talk a great in depth, I'm sure, about lineage, but even that conceptual understanding of a lineage of the land, a lineage of particular trees, of particular waters that are familiar to us. They are our familiars, right, like they're ancestral waters.
Speaker 2:They are, they're part of, they're part of our souls soul, history or her story, with these lineages, and then, as we travel to the primordial roots, they're all, they're all connected in the center and, you know, go all the way back to the first mothers of humanity. Yeah, and so you know, I was so surprised. I remember one of the years that we were doing the magdalene vision quest. Yeah, I was not living in Bali at that time, but that's where I was being taken again and again and again and being shown like a yeah, like an ancient Magdalene portal on the island that is connected to these, these ancient dragon frequencies, and it's so, it's, yeah, it's, it's so full of surprises how these different families and lineages relate to each other, agreed.
Speaker 1:It's everywhere, like it's, it's just everywhere. If you look even at the, the souls that are comprised in all of the, the many different traditions that were comprised through our mentorship, right, like a lot of deep Europe, a lot of Asia, like all these different facets. We've got Mexico with Annabelle, like all of these places that carry these particular primordial intelligences, this Magdalene energy, and it is fascinating because we we use the term Magdalene, right, but even before Magdalene this was there, she was also accessing that. So, like this, this river that just keeps on giving and splitting off into these, it's really beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, yeah. It's amazing and to me me it really feels like the lineages are making a big comeback on another level right now, like they're coming back through us and I feel especially through our creative transmissions, like what we're here to to birth and create. They're really close and watching over us and co-creating with us in the next steps. Yeah, yeah, that's very beautiful. Yeah, yeah. When you were in your womb, awakening um path in europe, what were some of the lineages that really came, came up and revealed themselves at that time?
Speaker 1:It was mostly like really strong Magdalene and Yeshua frequencies, lots of deep mother Mary, and then these Ishtar and Nana Babylonian lineages that were also coming through those spaces and then I have a really deep oh, it's so interesting. As soon as I go to talk about it my heart's like, ooh, I have a really deep connection to the African mothers and so just that Black Madonna and Africa coming through, but Africa has always been there, like in my New York life. Oh, really coming through, but Africa has always been there, like in my New York life. It just yeah, I mean, just because I'm in, I've been steeped in such diversity like it's kind of always been.
Speaker 1:Um, how do I explain that? It's just it's. I've always had access and always felt connected to the roots of the drum and and and culture that was accessible for me here and so that was open. But it just like, oh, it kind of showed me how all of this is connected through Italy and the Black Madonna and and how all of it goes back originally to these places and with this extension of this love song that just keeps moving and ebbing and flowing into these different continents, and these soul parts that just keep coming back together.
Speaker 1:It's like like a mother just taking each part of its child into itself.
Speaker 2:Come back, come back, right, yeah, oh, my god, I I'm so in love with what you shared about the horcrux piece, because I've actually thought about that to myself in the exact same way and, um, yeah, like it's this feminine shamanism path, it's such a soul retrieval, yeah, journey on on all of these different levels personal, familial lineage, the earth it's, it's incredible, yeah, and and the mystery of the lineages I, it's so amazing. So amazing.
Speaker 1:It's so amazing and I know that you'll appreciate this too, because it just when you, as we know, like I don't know what your um path was prior to you stepping into womb, awakening but I think that we both know, like that was a pretty big part of it for us, like it was a main vein of life and this feeling of consistently being initiated and yes, we had teachers right Consistently being initiated and yes, we had teachers right, we had mentorship, but it was like that feminine shamanism that you're talking about. It gives unto itself its direct wisdom and it's so fantastical. And now I also know it needs a lot of containment and support and we learn as we go. I also know it needs a lot of containment and support and, like you know, we learn as we go.
Speaker 1:But I know that, like the things that were happening at these particular times, there was no one. I was finding that people in the fountain of life could understand or relate to some of the mystical stuff because people in the regular world could not understand, like what some of the things that were happening through us like what?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a complete rebirth. I mean, I had had a very, very devoted, committed spiritual journey up until Fountain of Life. Okay, then, what started to happen at that point was, yeah, a rebirth. And yeah, for me, I mean, everything changed. You know, I went through divorce. I healed a chronic wound condition spontaneously, had a spontaneous healing after a two-year chronic condition, left my job, left the state, left the country. Everything changed and it was such an intense current of shakti, yeah, beginning to take me where I needed to be, and it was, yeah, it was a complete rebirth of my psyche, my sense of identity, my perception of the world, my perception of god, and it was so, so big. And it's interesting too, because with the lineage, what I'm remembering as we're talking about it is I didn't really understand lineage. Like the first, probably the first year or two, I, every time I heard lineage, I like I just I didn't understand it.
Speaker 2:I didn't understand spirit lineage yeah and it's interesting because I feel like, until you can locate yourself in your lineage in a way, I was kind of this, even though I had you know relationships and support, I was like this little individual going through this insane awakening journey.
Speaker 2:But I was not really held in a container like you were saying, and I had a really powerful experience when I was going through like a you know deep, dark night of the soul, like three-day death rebirth thing. I was in the middle of nowhere in Tennessee, by myself, with the land and and during that time the lineages came to me. They, I mean they they appeared all around me and it was like they were claiming me. They're saying you know, we're here and you belong to this current and it's a current of you know physical human beings that have carried this torch and that have guardian these frequencies and that I've lived with like utmost courage and devotion and love, and and also non-physical beings and forces of love and magic and um, and it was amazing and I I was able to suddenly perceive it and feel it and belong to it and and everything shifted. There were certain levels that I could not access until I was back back in in this reunion with with the lineage current.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, powerful, I I understand.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, cause it's like, yeah, I mean we, I feel like you know, we've lost that memory of lineage, like, especially in the modern Western world, we, you know, we experience ourselves as individuals and we're encouraged as well, exactly, but the lineage, I mean, it's, of course, it's our roots and it's like you were saying, we access these parts of our soul and our memory and it's such a an incredible homecoming and but also our lineage it's like, yeah, they're, they're the backbone, they're the power source, they're the, you know, like that's where the oracular guidance comes from and there's so much support and love and protection in in this lineage connection. See, I I feel so passionate about, I love that we're having this conversation because I feel that this is going to be like such a big key with where women want to go with their path is to really stay very close to that lineage, taproot and receive your, your nourishment and your support and your resources from that place.
Speaker 1:And you know, what I love so much about that too is, yeah, there's this deepening that gets to happen and it happens. It feels like, really at a subatomic level, like there's something that is just known and it comes alive in a way that our human self maybe could not have felt. That type of divine love or that type of reverence, that unconditional holding that was in our human forms, that is not accessible because of the conditioning, and that suddenly, this, it feels like a bank. This bank becomes available and all of a sudden, you can connect into it and you're like woo. And the beauty of that I know that you and I can understand this is that, like in a world that is very confused, and the idea of us having roots that are not of our particular color, skin or our particular heritage, and this blood and bone body like's like. It opens up an entire new understanding of our relationships to source and the of the soul, uh, it's like, and the connections that are, that have always been throughout every lifetime.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, 100%, yeah, and I think so many of us on this magical path are having that experience in this lifetime, that this lifetime is a real recapitulation of other parallel lives, of ancient memories, of all of these different dimensions of our soul. And that's what I love about the womb shamanism path is that the spirit portal of your womb will bring you into that, that center point that holds all dimensions of who you are and as women. That's what we need. We need we need because we have that intuitive sense that we're, we're so vast and we, we're, we have these different dimensions of our being and and so, yeah, the womb really really brings us into that, that spiritual womb, the womb of our soul that connects us to the, the full fabric of our soul, the full, the reality of how to start our power and the vastness of who we actually are yes, agreed, I love that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and now there's this like sweet spot. I feel like I want to bring in around it, to contain it, because it makes me feel so nourished, to nourish others in that, as we were talking about with mentorship, and I know you share this same calling and longing to like to support an infrastructure for somebody else to drop into their own right, not to drop into ours, but to be able to be held, to drop into their own, have somebody there to guide and support, because we know the depth, like it's full on and I know one can become lost, oh, yeah, yeah, like spirituality is no joke, like it's a full banquet, this whole banquet of dark and light and an incarnational, like incredible magic, and it's interwoven with so many other beings and lands and lineages that it's so powerful when you have somebody who's seasoned to be able to ride it with you like the witness, to guide, to support and strengthen.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, I'm right there with yeah, yeah, I'm right there with you, I'm right there with you. And and it's also, I mean, I know, for me, when I because, yeah, like like many people, so you know, coming from from France, I grew up in a very secular culture, right, super non-religious family I basically thought of myself as an atheist, and you know, and then kind of had this progressive journey because I had like this spontaneous awakening at 17 and I, you know it blew me away. And then I kind of had this journey that took me through, you know, buddhism and depth psychology and energy healing and all of these these things that were amazing, but there was always like a missing piece and I was just like longing for that piece and searching for that piece, and why can't I find it anywhere? There's something missing, there's something that no one's talking about, you know, and I was like, and my, in my early 20s, at that point I felt such a frustration, like there was like a big cover-up in the spiritual world then like what, what is it that I'm looking for?
Speaker 2:And, and you know it, for me, all of that was revealed with womb awakening and the, the feminine face or the feminine frequency of God and returning to our, our womb or Hara, which is our, you know, our center of creative power and authority and this full descent of the soul, so you can actually embody your power and embody your soul, frequency and be, actually be in your body, not just kind of live, you know, from from here up and and so, yeah, it's like when we descend back into our womb or hara, there's such a sense of gnosis and direct knowing that activates and it's irrevocable, like there's no turning back. So that piece of womb authority, of hara authority, it changes everything in the spiritual journey because once that's activated and rooted in, yeah, you can navigate the vast psychedelic world of spirituality from your discernment and from your own connection to your soul, from your own connection with yeah with the divine, like that power switches on that power and discernment and those, those eyes in the womb that can, that can see the truth.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that's I. That's why I just feel like this is so, so, so important. Womb awakening for every woman, horror awakening for every man. It's, it's so important.
Speaker 1:It's so important, it's so powerful to be able to trust that voice deep down in, like just that fully connected, strengthened, supported voice when you don't have it and then you find it. It is so powerful because you go from consistently asking outside of yourself to perceiving the realities of life from within the self. It's like we came in and it was twisted around and so it kind of like makes us sit up straight, as you said, and like really, really the word replenishes comes in too right, like it replenishes authority.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I love what you were saying in terms of, you know, having the infrastructure to then be kind of midwife and and guided on your on your journey, because, just like we have experienced, you know, soul fragmentation, there's been a fragmentation of the lineages and they've had to go underground and they've had to become veiled and then we haven't accessed that magical mentoring, not through our families you know, and so, yeah, that there's this kind of resurgence or return of these really powerful spiritual structures and benevolent containers that you can enter to be priestess and midwife and supported along the way, is this feels huge, a huge, huge, huge return of a very important energy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, agreed, I really love that too and I find it to be fascinating and I want to hear from you as far as, like when you tuned in and some of the lineages that were coming up for you in fountain of life, then it, it keeps going like everything, like it's.
Speaker 1:It's those lineages are present and then other, sometimes those lineages step back for me and other lineages come come in right, so it's like what is needed now for the next level of incarnation and those souls come, come in to hold the container. It doesn't mean that those other folks are gone, right, but it like it's building on itself, like the rainbow body, the bridge, it's just building on itself and I, I don't, I'm not surprised, but I have been surprised in moments where I'm like Whoa, oh, you're here, like you guys are showing up, like oh, so that for me it's also. I found it to be very exciting, yeah, right.
Speaker 1:Like yeah, like that Ooh la la, like consistently in that mystery of like whoa, who's here now? What does that say about me? Who am I If that is, you know what's coming up in this connection, in this relationship that now wants? That's true, yeah, yeah that's.
Speaker 2:I love that you say this, because I feel like that's that's one of the biggest pieces the the world that we live in now, like this kind of false matrix with all of the layers of conditioning and programming. It changes our perception of who we are, you know, and, and our sense of identity is distorted. It's like it's like we are, you know, and and our sense of identity is distorted. It's like it's like this big, you know, and that's what we're, you know, we're, um, yeah, conditioned to, to live inside of, and the lineage is like liberate that sense of identity and reveal these parts of your soul, these notes of your power, and it completely changes our perception, like our actual experience of of who we really are.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that changes everything I think that's why, also, it's been so important for so many women that, awaken, they end up leaving their home route because the identification is so profound with where they grew up that it's really hard to disidentify with what that is, especially when you're having like a mythical experience. So often we get pulled out of family roots and those conditions so that we have a vaster connectivity and consciousness, to even move us into places where we could perceive something other than the identity that we were. You know that cultivated our survival throughout this lifetime.
Speaker 2:Yes, completely, completely. I totally agree, yeah. And then there's that big journey of when you come back to your family system and yeah.
Speaker 2:Like, okay, all of this, you've been them and and yeah, like, okay, all of this, you've been okay, mermaid, how do you swim in the?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly, yeah, yeah, it's fascinating, it is, yeah, yeah, and like we were, I think, also discussing before we hopped on, it's like yeah, I feel that the lineage is yeah, they really come in at these threshold moments where, like you were saying, they come in because there's a particular aspect of ourself and our power that we've maybe felt separated from or had difficulty accessing on our own, also because of the family system stuff and the cultural stuff. And but yeah, they, they really come in at these threshold moments to be with us, to guide us. They come in our dreams and then also, I mean, I'm always really touched. It's like we have that lineage connection, also as a child, like we have these things that already as little ones, we're so attracted to, these things that already as little ones, we're so attracted to and we love to have our favorite little objects and things around us, or our favorite books and movies and and fairy tales that actually have that yeah that lineage resonance, did you have that?
Speaker 2:I did I yeah, what was it like?
Speaker 1:you know, you know that saying like look at your mother's dressers, like what's on, yeah, mother's dressers and so when I lean into that, I just my mother. Oh, it's so beautiful, my mother. There were traces of the divine mother everywhere. Um, my mother has a very strong. She was the priestess of guanyin, for sure.
Speaker 1:Um, there is like asian mothers all over her living room and yeah, so this although my root is chinese, her root is is japanese, but like all of it was just permeating in the space. And then the french connection. So we have french roots, but I I can't I haven't been able to track them with blood yet, because it went further back. So there's French on my mother's side, a little bit of it, and like a lot of European symbology of the feminine, like very particular floral delays and like just little things all over that were like okay, and of course, mother Mary, because we were, I was raised Catholic, so the mama was in the house and so so some of these figures were already like in my consciousness all around me, from from very young. What about?
Speaker 2:you Well, and I'm just curious where did her Japanese Asian lineage connection come from? Was, do you know what it's? Just it's past life.
Speaker 1:Her, her shamanic steed is a panda bear, like it is. Like, yeah, she's just enamored with that culture. Doesn't understand why, but I'm like mom, you were a priestess. And she just laughs at me oh my gosh so it's beautiful I love this.
Speaker 2:Just the magic of this is incredible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is really beautiful.
Speaker 2:Wow, what about you? Yeah, I mean for me as a little one, I had, yeah, I always had a draw to ancient Egypt and that was the first lineage that came back online when we you know, when we worked with Womb Awakening, you know I had my little cat stuffed animal that was named Isis and you know I was like just like the yeah, just having that nearby. And then, yeah, I was obsessed with the legends of the Holy Grail you know, I wanted to hear these stories all the time and Lancelot and Guinevere and King.
Speaker 2:Arthur and just these, these energies, I just I couldn't get enough of them and just felt, yeah, completely yeah, they were just in my field all the time.
Speaker 1:so I hear I understand even now, like Netflix, it's like anything with the dragons or anything, as you said, with with Glenevere and Lancot, like it's so strong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is yeah, and it's so powerful because, as we speak about this, what it reminds me of is, you know, so again, because I grew up in such a secular culture and I had a lot, like a lot of us, I had this very, you know, magical experience as a child. I was connected to different things and can you know, know, hear voices and feel magic, and then, you know, learned that it was not real. It was not real, you know, and I had this massive, massive heartbreak and grief and that fear also, even though I didn't understand it, I was a child but like, why am I delusional and I can't trust my own perceptions? And it was all fantasy, was all make-believe, and now I have to grow up, you know, and then that door was like sealed shut and then by the time I was, you know, older and a teenager and I was yeah, I had that very especially like in, because, again, you also have these cultural egregores and you probably know this from living in but there's like a very strong, like intellectual, like a lot of value on the intellect and the cerebral energy in France, which is amazing as well, a lot of philosophizing, beautiful things, but yeah, it's like that magical door had completely closed.
Speaker 2:And then, when I was 17 and I had this awakening, the first thing I felt is like, oh my God, that magical door from my childhood just opened again. And it wasn't make-believe, it wasn't an illusion, actually, this is what's real. And it was like that door to another world had just opened again. And then I had no idea what was going. Take me, you know now, but, um, yeah, like again just goes back to really our perception of reality that for a number of years, it's like suddenly there was no magic, there was no god, there was no you know, and and you answered completely different, different reality, which is, you know what's happened at the collective level.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when you share that, it makes me feel so deeply grateful that it's happening, that it happened for you, young, right Like at that particular age that ripening was starting to come online for you and we're going to, we're seeing that quickening happening, right Because the planet's being lit up. So, as it pertains to lineage and this feeling of I like the term Saren uses of mother, of the balance, I feel very much at home in that place because it's we become these bridges for the generations that are coming up, to kind of hold and segue for them to have mentorship and have support as they're doing younger, yeah, yeah, Cause it's, it's it's very intense and, yeah, and how beautiful to awaken from the conditioning. Young like, so you have more of a life to, to experience the truth of who you are instead of you know waking up as many of us do in our, you know, late. It's normally thirties that you know my generation, thirties, forties, ands, and it's like, wow, imagine at like 15.
Speaker 1:And then the point being is that eventually, you never have to lose it livelihood of these and steward the mentorship and this, these magical ways of being, and hold the creativity and the buoyancy of life, so that these little girls and boys never have to lose themselves, like they can just be who they are on track and and be so masterful like, so masterful, like so masterful in in being them, instead of having to fight for being them.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, I resonate with that, so so much.
Speaker 2:I mean it's, it's what it's all for the name of your podcast, the the legacy the magical legacy and we are in these times that the time of this great return, this time that's been prophesied about. There's this huge return of light and it can be embodied again on the planet and it's so exciting. I mean, yeah, and the, the newer generations that are switched on and they come in and incarnate and there's a a lot less of a willingness to compromise or believe in the illusions of the, of the old paradigms and system, and it's astounding.
Speaker 1:The energy coming in is astounding it is, and like all of these mothers and fathers of this new time, like really holding giving birth at home, like shifting the trajectory of everything and coming back to these more ancient ways in this modern time, and like for you, me and all of us to be able to to deeply tune into what those souls need yeah Right, so that whatever it is that needs to come through is available for them. They're birthing.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And what we're talking about I mean it also makes me think of because it's you know, we're having both at the same time like a very intense, rapid dissolution of the old world and it's intense, like it's an intense collective soul, menstruation and descent, and there's like a reckoning that's happening in the world.
Speaker 2:That is very, you know, very, confronting. Yes, exactly yes, yeah. And then, at the same time, these new paradigms emerging through us really like, really, yeah, the earth and the lineages and the greater intelligences of love they are, you know, creating through us. And I was, I was, yeah, just thinking about again why the womb is so key, because it's the place in us, in our soul, that can hold the duality of of what is happening in the world, and we're going to need that, we're going to need to be able to hold duality, paradox, shadow and light, grief and love, and and be able to be present for the full spectrum of what's rebirthing in our world. Yeah, and, and that, and and the womb, this, this space of non-duality, and also that dragon power is, is going to be crucial to navigate these times, because I know we, we're all, we're all feeling it. It's intense, it's quickening, it's the energies are really strong. Our bodies are feeling it, our nervous systems and our like, yeah, our delicate, exquisitely sensitive, magical creature inside us is feeling it.
Speaker 1:For me something that comes up.
Speaker 1:It's interesting that it came up now, but this feeling of what I feel more called to pronounce now. In the world right now, there's so much focus on shadow work and for me it's like, yes, you need to know how to eloquently navigate that terrain, but for some souls, we become so fascinated and stay in that and never see the heart of who we are, because we're always digging in darkness. So this time I feel like we've come into a place where there's so much light now. Where there's so much light now it's like really pointing to the light now, like very strong. So that way you have the capability to even like process any of the darkness but like go forth and see more of who you are. And that is something that like wasn't really demonstrated for me and and I so I'm like I feel like I really want to bring that in, because once you know more of who you are, you have more to go with. Yeah, you know, and it's like, oh, that's me Verse, like consistently head down digging which that can happen.
Speaker 2:Right, and that can be, yeah, it could.
Speaker 2:It could become a distraction or it could become because, yeah, I was.
Speaker 2:I've been talking about this with a lot, of, a lot of women I work with and I also feel like there's been a collective, a collective shift where, yeah, so the awakening and the deep transformation it's very important and it's a continuous journey, but it feels like we're shifting from just healing to, yes, creating, yes, right, creating, yeah, yeah, that it's. It's time to create and and just um, and not entering the full expression of our creative power is the healing that we need. You know, like we've been kept just kind of these really small spaces and and we need to create, and there's these amazing creative templates that are coming through the womb of earth, through the lineages that are part of our, our destiny to bring through. So I I totally feel that, too, that the resonance is with what are you here to create and allow the healing and the alchemy to keep unfolding organically totally to keep spitting us out and like doing whatever it needs to do, but just really being like, wow, at the essential center, I'm a creator.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, I'm divine and I'm a creator. Everything else we can, we can, you know, we can move with, but like that is the center focus yeah yeah, you can like draw on power, like learn how to use it with respect, learn how to ride the dragon open the heart, like all of those things kind of simultaneously growing and and like pulsing in this, like familial, like body dance, where this, you know that sacred marriage starts to tune in, that divine, and like all that.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's so beautiful yeah, so beautiful and we're ready like that. This year has such a different energy to it, and I know a lot of us have spent years, long, long years of of internal alchemy and deep devotion and deep practice and prayers, and I think for me, it's been really hitting me just how real it is that we are the alchemical vessel and so it's all been happening actually through us, through our life experiences and this offering of our lives that we've embodied, so that so many energies could be completed, transmuted, rebirthed, and so it's like we've done a lot of that, a lot of the gestation, a lot of the preparation, and there's something about this year that it's like it's go time. There's, like you said, there's so much light, there's this amazing solar energy that's rising through the earth and through our rooms, and it's it's it's the right time, and we're ready, we're ready that used?
Speaker 1:yeah, it's like, as soon as you said that, I saw like a time clock go on. It's like rising inside of us. Yeah, like this, just we're starting to become lit up in so many different ways from within. Yeah, it's still really fascinating to me, though, that the diversity of experience like with us, like how that can move and and shape shift, like depending upon where we are, and like how things like, again, connection to land, connection to lineage, how things we can see so many more facets of our diamond much more quickly as things are moving, and how we can be seated next to individuals that are having a completely different experience and have no direct understanding of what you and I are even talking about right now.
Speaker 2:Totally right. And again, that's I mean, and I think it's important to have this conversation because we're all experiencing the contrast between what you might be as a magical person and you're you know, I don't know like doing your practice or sitting on your couch sipping tea, and the kind of reality that you're immersed in versus when you leave your house to go whatever, like grocery shopping or, and and again, like, how do we hold these divergent dimensions and timelines? And you know, we also feel it as we evolve and some of our relationships don't make it. Some people that we love go into different timelines. That's also part of our evolution. And again, how are we going to hold that duality? Because it's it's going to continue throughout our lifetime and we need, like that's part of our power to how we hold that, how we grieve that, how we can actually be with that is, I feel it's going to be so important in these times. I agree with you.
Speaker 1:I agree. There's so much to consistently be releasing and parting with in order to create new pathways for that creative energy to move through, for that creative energy to move through.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah. And again, and I think one of the questions I'm journeying with a lot and that I ask you know the magical women I work with a lot because it is time to create, and so the question is not even you know, what do I do next? And should I do this? Like we know? We actually know we already, you know it's already been in us for some time. So the question is not what, what do I do, or do I do it or not? That's not the question. The question is more what's the?
Speaker 2:container that I need to do the thing. What's the kind of, what's the caliber of nourishment, what's the type of support, what are the things that my soul and my feminine body are asking for to do the thing? And because, as you know the feminine, we thrive with the container, everything switches on and flowers with the right container, organically, and so that's that's one of the big things that I'm continuously working on and working with women on is what? What do you need? What's the container, what's what's the vibe, what are the things that your soul is magnetizing, the resources, the openings that you know, so that you can actually do what you're here to do and be who you came here to be Absolutely agreed.
Speaker 1:This has been a big theme for me lately and it's always a theme for the ladies, but it is.
Speaker 1:It's been coming back in again for me lately and it's always a thing for the ladies, but it is.
Speaker 1:It's been coming back in again for me personally and then also coming back with respect for holding the youth what do they need for their container? So it's like it's both ends right and yeah, and being really honest about that and and accessing, being willing to access the resources and it's like this next level of depth and support that is always at our back and you know that opening again to receive new experiences of nourishment and new. I call them Shiva structures, like new Shiva structures and like how are we bringing the consciousness through the form, like it's different than how it moved us before? Yeah, it's like consistently new ways of generating the energy through the body to actually create and bring it to fruition. So like kind of studying and opening and trusting that deeper marriage within to be able to have that, be able to like actually come through the roots of earth and be part of what we're going to co-create yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, completely yeah, and it's I and I.
Speaker 2:you know you were using the word replenishment and that also feels so timely, because I know a lot of us are feeling tired. Yeah, it's been a very intense stretch of initiation and a lot of women, it's like. I feel like that's a huge area of focus is replenishment, restoration, nourishment, like radical, unapologetic, exuberant nourishment. You know what's the nourishment that your soul needs. And so I feel like we're going through that collectively right now, like we've been through this huge alchemical initiation and rebirth, and to move into our creative destiny, we're drawing on that nourishment and that replenishment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's huge and thank God, like we have conversations like this and we have other women within our communities that are mirroring that and reflecting that in some particular ways, because it's not always like that, right, like sometimes you're like where's everybody at? And so it's the fact that it's coming more into consciousness and presence is it gives me hope. And also there is, um, yeah, it it makes me want to show up differently, because, yes, yeah, uh, yeah, because I can see it, it's not just me, just an internal experience. You, you're reflecting it too, and it's like, oh, that can and even that containment, right, like you and I together. And then all of a sudden, ooh, la la, what is that? What does that bring in?
Speaker 2:And yeah, so, yes, yeah, we're going to need that. We're going to're gonna need because, again, it's like all of these different levels of fragmentation that we've experienced and, as women, yeah, it's like we haven't gotten to have the embodied experience of that web consciousness that is our, our true template, you know, like, just like nature, through collaboration, through partnership, through this, this web configuration. That's something that we're also coming back into and we're going to need for where we're going. We're going to need to to have our node in the web and and work together and support each other and like cross pollinate, like what have you been fighting on your journey? Like let's, let's talk about it, let's share notes and transmissions, and we can go so much farther together and and be nourished in the process.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, and I feel like that the the amazing thing about it is also that it's like this is also the exciting adventure, part of it, all of like what's gonna happen next, like what are gonna, what are we gonna create together? And that really ancient wisdom in us and that multi-dimensional part of our soul that is now in this modern world, with everything that's happening, with all of the collective evolution and the currents moving through the earth and coming from the cosmos, and so there's also, like this, amazing excitement and adventure of what we're going to create together it's amazing.
Speaker 1:It's amazing on the good days.
Speaker 1:It's like yes, bring us, bring us a dose of truth, yeah on the good days it's like, oh, it just is, it melts and it's, it satiates and it's it's all the things. Yeah, we feel so connected and supported. And then, on the days that that's not so, it is like a radical experience and like all of it is part of the experience. Yeah, tuning back in again and deepening our sense of self and deepening in mastery and continuing to dissolve identities that you know, that appear as more light arrives and we're like, oh, I see you there. I didn't see you there before. Okay, we're going to.
Speaker 1:You know, it's this consistent mothering, birthing, transmutation. But it feels like, whereas before I don't know if this is the case for you, but it felt like there was more of a, a like stay here and do this thing for a long time. Now it's like take the kids and go, like, create, like you're destroying and creating simultaneously, like no, we don't need that anymore and we're creating this. So it requires a different level of capacity and consciousness and infrastructure and support, like the container you're talking about, for us to be able to stay steady and in balance while we are masterfully co-creating our lives together and birthing the new earth. Sometimes, when I say that, I'm like oh, I don't mean to say that in a spiritually woo-woo way. I really mean giving birth to ourselves and bringing forth the reverence and the qualities of life that we want to consistently nourish and share with others.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And again, it's like Pandora's box of your womb that connects you to the. You know the old ancestral patterns, the unresolved stories and heartbreaks and um, and these death portals that we enter, but actually, like that's part of our power. We have that memory inside of us as to how we navigate death portals. Menstruation, deep rebirth and and you know, mama, god wants us to fully reclaim that part of the spectrum of our power to the death, doula part of it, and that is also, again, it's gonna be a continuous journey. Death and grief solution. Yes, menstruation, and it happens through our, through our womb, through this deep, deep core of our soul. That is also, yeah, directly connected to the womb of earth and the cosmic womb, and so we have access to this infinite source of power that we're journeying with in these powerful times, so eloquent and beautiful.
Speaker 1:It really is. And then how that capacity to develop that depth and hold that inside and carve that space out for ourselves and then to be able to face the world that we are going to be called to continuously stand in, where death is eminent and there's going to be so much happening as there already is on this planet. That is incredible. Like to watch the numbers of death, to watch, you know life being born like and to just be holding these different spaces in the collective field and communities and like being a part of helping with, guiding and supporting and strengthening in all of those ways.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, and then it's like the parts of us that are dying and like you know also I mean what I hear all the time from women I work with and I you know it hits home for me too it's like every time we're moving into our next octave of evolution, our relationships shift. We feel that, you know, we feel the reconfiguration and it's like sometimes some relationships you know go away and then sometimes it's not the relationship that dies, but actually like a pattern in the relationship or dynamic we've been in that dies. And yeah, all these deaths, they we really feel them too, you know, in the, in the microcosm of our personal lives and our relationships. Yeah, and if we're not versed in how to navigate that, then we stay away from, like the next level of power creativity, because we instinctively sense that it's going to mean some dissolution, that on some level we don't feel fully ready.
Speaker 1:Absolutely yeah. What you said just reminds me so deeply about how the relationships are impacted, but it's really about the relationship with ourself that is ending, like those particular aspects of the self that are being transformed, that are dying out. And so there's action naturally either fizzles out or it has to be removed. For me, sometimes in my journey, they don't. Then it's not that they don't naturally dissipate, but there comes a period of time where I know that there is like a group of beings who I've loved for like seven to 10 or seven to 12 years and something is going, it's like it's got to go, and so, even though I have so much love for the souls that I have been journeying with, I know that we cannot continue to journey together, and so this has happened for me in, in periods and cycles, consistently, consistently Wow, yeah, so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then it's like waiting for the new to arrive in right, that that void in between, yeah you're where it's your community now until, like the next, the next evolution of you arrives and then with that, the new souls come into configuration. And then it's like, and learning how to trust your heart. During all that heartbreak and all that to happen and being able to be present with that. I found it to be really, really powerful to navigate and not necessarily easy.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I think that's. Yeah, it's some of the most challenging when you're deep in that metamorphosis and an entire relationship template in your life is just is gone. And yeah, you've got to stay close to your own soul, to your relationship with spirit and that aspect of the feminine where you know death is always followed by new life, of the feminine where you know death is always followed by new life. Yeah, this life-giving energy, new life is going to come. The new template is already emerging. Sometimes we just can't perceive it yet, but it's already been in gestation on the soil of our being.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it's. It's a very vulnerable, yeah super powerful space that that in between that I think all of us can relate to. There's at least one area of our lives that is. That is in that, in that quantum void, you know kind of undefined amorphous space and uh, and again, how we hold that is like part of our power, how we can hold that, that aspect in our, in our web and our soul mandala you know and stay in our center as it's as it's happening, have you noticed that trickling in with your birth family, like all the work that you do and relationship reconfiguring.
Speaker 1:Do you sense like there's a lot of shifts and changes within, like mom and brother and like in your roots, or is it feel like it's still sort of steady?
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, completely. So I'm, you know, I feel really blessed. I have a very close relationship with my family and, um, my father passed away 10 years ago now. Um, um, yeah, and his, his passing, completely reconfigured our, our little family unit, and we went through a very long process and very, very long process to um, yeah, to find who we were individually as a family after his passing.
Speaker 2:But, um, you know, my, my mom, my brother and I, I mean they're both on a very, very deep, magical journey and so we've, we've been able to stay connected, while also, I mean, we've had, you know, massive initiations as a family, but we've been able to to hold it together.
Speaker 2:And so, yeah, last year we went through a really amazing process and completion together, um, but, yeah, I mean, we, you know, the three of us now we work very closely together on on those realms too, and I feel so, so blessed because it's it's, it's really, yeah, it's really unique, um, and so, yeah, we've been, we've continuing to grow together and um, so I'm just kind of tuning in, I think one of the biggest things too, what I would say, where we are now and because, really, with my father passing, it was like, yeah, a certain identity we had as a family, a certain a whole you know family system, a structure that dissolved, and then the role we each had in the family, and especially with my dad, who was kind of the you know, the pillar and the patriarch and the you know just yeah, when he he went, everything changed and yeah, it's like we completed a big cycle of healing with that and and now again, I really feel like the stage we're in as a family is each of us with our own soul signature and our destiny in the world and holding that vision and supporting each other.
Speaker 2:You know, know, from that beautiful nucleus place, but that's what I want for my family and for everyone I love. But it's like I really want to see, you know, it's not just like, oh my, my mom, like my mommy and her.
Speaker 2:You know we're like, oh, my brother and who they are to me, but it's who they are here to be in the world and I I'm holding that with them. That's part of my, my mission and excitement. So that's where I I feel it the most is again kind of completing a certain portion of the ancestral healing so that you're actually liberated to be in your soul destiny and you can step into that so much more free and so much more spaciousness and and it's just, yeah, such such an exciting era to step into. That's beautiful. Yeah, yeah, what about for you? Do you want, to, do you want to share? Um, what, what?
Speaker 1:that has been like. It's been incredibly intense and filled with grief and like rewriting motherhood and these relational dynamics that were so deeply rooted, like to be in this in a mostly conscious mission that I sense me and my son share to bring liberation and to show up in particular ways on this planet and so how everything that we've known planet and so how everything that we've known is being reconstructed and so holding those relationships gently while they are defragging and these different vulnerable aspects of self, like the only thing we've known, is being gutted really quite deeply. So it has been a very interesting experience and I feel like it's so much of my life's work that will be from this place in working with mothers and the ways in which we've been taught to mother and how to mother from a place of nourishment and like all to be, you know, uncomfortable with that and be a lioness and like the balance of being that in the spirit world and also, you know, being an usher for this paradigm, for him to have the space to lead in his own way and also like, yeah, it's, it's a lot of demolition, because his generation is really has been destroying, they're destroying a lot of structures on the planet energetically, like through this massive rebirth. There's like plutonian chaos of gender and race and like there's so much happening, yeah, um. So like holding the midwife space of like he needs to go through all these different things and I can't participate in the way I once did. And so it's been a fascinating journey and it has been ridden with love and hope and heartbreak, and it's so.
Speaker 1:It's been really intense and rich, yeah, and I'm so grateful too that we love each other enough to mirror and came in with together when we decided that we were going to love each other and move through this at this particular time, and it's I just I have to hold that with such reverence and just keep remembering and it makes me want, it's like a little dragon in my hands.
Speaker 1:It makes me just need to come every now and again back and revisit that, knowing like it's going to be okay, like we're all going to be okay. It's, we're going to, we're coming out intact. So, yeah, that's some of what's been moving for us as a family and just like the family being smaller and smaller and you know, then, like the stepping into a role of like caretaking as my mother is now moving into eldership in my being and like holding these lineages the elder and the segue for the child. It's been a really, really interesting and powerful time and, if I'm honest, it oftentimes does not feel very magical. It feels very like, with effort and care and like whoa, which has been very different like coming into, bringing the magical into the integrated world of like and there are realities of like tending the ancestors in the physical form, healing these lineages.
Speaker 2:So it's beautiful and freaking, incredibly intense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm so moved by everything you're sharing and I just know like, I just feel like we just hit this place in our conversation. I just know these are the conversations we need to be having as it's unfolding, cause that's where it's unfolding, it's like in the, in these intimate spaces of our personal lives and our relationships, and that's like, yeah, we, we need to talk about this. I know other women want to go into these spaces together where there's, I mean, I'm, I'm astounded by the, the, the, the presence of the grief at every turn of every, every every turn. The, the, the, the, like tidal waves of grief.
Speaker 1:It's yeah, it's like, wow, we're going to be walking with this grief, you know, Because we are dying over and over again, like this pain is because of these identities and ideas that have been so deeply rooted in particular ways of being and now, like this new expression wants to come through in this new way of being, in union and relating with our families. But in order for that to really move through these parts of us, it's all they've known.
Speaker 1:So it's like, ah, the underbelly of like. What do you mean? I, we can't do this the same way anymore. Or what do you mean? We can't spend as much time together? What do you mean? You don't need me anymore, right and like, now you have to summon your own strength. It's fucking powerful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it happens. I mean, it's like everything is happening at the same time in this wild life. There's so much complexity and huge energies that we're holding and yeah, it's incredible, this, this journey of love, embodied, and it takes everything, every ounce of your, of your devotion, of your trust, of your choice, commitment.
Speaker 1:Yes, the greatest initiation the word that's coming through so clearly right now is grace, like just yeah, just really like breathing into grace during all of these times, and it's available to us, yeah, to keep remembering.
Speaker 2:It's like just pulling it through, like, yes, just bring that, yeah in the midst of all of it yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah reaching again because right, it's like and I'm just gonna plug in my computer real quick, but, um, again, because we've been so conditioned as women to do it alone, to do it through sacrifice, to do it through suffering to you, do it through suffering to you know, totally to be very energetically isolated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and this feels like part of the shift to to reach for vaster energies, like the frequency of, of grace, the whatever your relationship with you know, god's spirit, with mother earth For me, I also really feeling, um, a strong connection to reaching for the elements and and that elemental power inside of me, like the you know it's like with the journey of love, it's, I mean, the power of the ocean, to, to be able to hold these oceanic feelings of of love, of grief, of being able to merge in consciousness with the one we love and then come back to ourselves, and it's like the consciousness of water is what, for example, can, can guide me in these moments and to go and sit with her and to let her cleanse these parts of my heart that are hurting.
Speaker 2:You know, baptize me with love, and so it's, yeah, the power of the elements for me. I just I keep getting that message from the lineages forge the substance of your elements of power. Reach for the elements, keep cultivating that elemental power within you, because it's it's one of the greater energies that can hold and work with creatively, with everything that's it is who we are, yeah, we are.
Speaker 1:And without being able to balance that and move in, that, I mean, it's core. It's the education that I wish we got in kindergarten, like that is. It's like this is who you are, your water, your air, your sky, you know. It's like if we just yeah, it's so important. I love that you brought that in. Yeah, we can't do it with her. I mean, we came to do it with her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, she gets it, she gets it. It's like these, these beings that I mean when we enter in relationship with them. They get it, they understand like they mother earth, she's we're, we're entangled with her at such a a deep level. She understands it in her body, she, she understands the. She is holding it all also in her, in her field, in her body. So there's an incredible intimacy there. That is going to be, yeah, I feel, guiding us into the uncharted territory that we're, that we're in.
Speaker 1:I hear you, it's beautiful. For some reason, I feel like the beginning of next year is going to be such a powerful time, but we're like, well, this year has been so like, so different than than other years. And, yeah, what's coming in right now is like beginning of like just yeah. Yeah, to watch, and see how much rooting is going to be taking form. I love that.
Speaker 2:True, true, yeah, yeah, it feels like that. I keep feeling like we're landing again after a very long, like interdimensional trip through you know, turbulent currents over lifetimes. It feels like we're landing again safely on shore over lifetimes, feels like we're, we're landing again safely on shore, we're able to plant our roots again deep in the earth.
Speaker 2:And yeah, and it's I mean I don't know if you saw this already, but as I was speaking about how this solstice, um, corresponds with the metatonic cycle of 19 years, and so this, this solstice we just had, actually um completes a cycle of 19 years. It's like solstice of 2005. Okay, wow. So we experienced these metonic events like three to four times in our lifetime, but so right now it was so interesting too, because over the past few weeks I was, I've been having dreams and memories of that time not being like, wow, this is interesting. I know I'm going through a lot of metamorphosis, so maybe that's why. But there's actually also a greater cosmic cycle of time, so I've been sitting with that and so that would make sense too, that it's like, yeah, we're completing rebirthing a big 19 year cycle, personally and collectively, and so, yeah, by the start of next year it'll be really interesting to see where we are.
Speaker 1:It's so important to get the perspective of the collective because sometimes it can become, as you've mentioned, so secular, like it can be. So much about our process. And then when you start to look at, like the maps of the cosmic and the collective fields of like, okay, what have we been moving through as a species? Like, what are the themes that are happening collectively, in particular age ranges?
Speaker 1:I just recently went on this like I was guided to just start looking at Pluto.
Speaker 1:This like I was guided to just start looking at Pluto, and it was like this macro view that wanted to come into my field for me to understand and kind of like quantumly assess some of the generational configurations over time so I could like deepen and understand it.
Speaker 1:And so Pluto in everybody's chart is essentially like, if you look at when you were born, you can really see what came in before you, what came in from your parents' generation that we're dealing with now. And so I just kind of got this map and was like, wow, some of the things that are so current, we can trace them back to things that our parents were working on and that were present and coming in at their time and we're just seeing, like what's happening now. So it gives a lot of perspective and so, yeah, it's been really powerful to look at that to see like okay, where are we now? And in the same same way you said like what's needed for our containment, for our growth, and also like how does that play into the collective too, like what do I need and what do they need?
Speaker 1:right like good vibes of of of the coming, like, okay, show me what they need so I can be contained to prepare for that pathway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And to find our place in it all, because the collective, of course, has such a strong gravitational pull and it's like every day we're navigating intense movements of energy, hyper-stimulations.
Speaker 2:There's a huge power in the collective and then, like we said, also in our families, and so it really requires to find what's my place, what's my current, what's my you know, like I, really, I, yeah, it's like this, this soul current, that when you're in it and really strong in your relationship with your own soul center and with spirit, you you're in it and really strong in your relationship with your own soul center and with spirit, you you're in the right place in all of the, the movements that are happening. And and that's so important. And I also love what you're saying because, yeah, when we're able to perceive the, the bigger patterns that we've inherited from our parents and our ancestral lineage, and we understand that those the most difficult sticky patterns in our lifetime that we can carry so much shame around, especially as women, like why can't I transform this and this thing about me that is, you know, flawed and broken and yes and and that's.
Speaker 2:That's part of the lie, that's part of the illusion, so that it keeps us, you know, like looping, but with that kind of a pluto perspective where you can actually step back and see, like my mom had this, my my grandmother had, my aunt had this with. All the women in my family have been trying to work this thing out and I have a piece of it. I have a fractal of it. It's not my identity yes, but it's what I'm here to.
Speaker 2:I'm here to guardian this energy. I'm here to transmute and alchemize this energy, but I don't have to take it on as this huge thing that's bigger than me and gets to, like, determine my life and my destiny.
Speaker 1:It's, it's a, it's a piece, but that perspective, it's so big when we can finally be in relationship with that pattern rather than think that it's you know totally my my teacher is so beautiful at explaining this but like just knowing, like moving from a place of where we are so in shame about the particular patterns or whatever is coming through, and it's like starting to look at everything as though I chose this particular poison to bring the antidote to the planet Right. So it's like everything that we have within us is like part of our mastery. It's like, oh awesome, oh wow, I didn't even see that. Um, that this is an issue.
Speaker 1:Boom, I'm going to be able to transmute this and be a blessing and bring that for humanity. Mute this and be a blessing and bring that for humanity. And so everything then is purposely done, like we rigged ourselves up with all of this chaos and this programming so that we can come in and the inheritance then will actually then be the banquet, because everything that we've come in, we had to do it in order to bring it into the form. We had to bring it in in this particular way. So it's just good to remember that when we're like yes, and to claim.
Speaker 2:I know it's so, it's so wild and it's like. I really feel that, for women too, like own your story, own your journey, wear it like a badge of honor, be proud of everything you've traversed, everything you've survived, and and I feel that mother earth wants us to actually claim that essence, that distilled wisdom that has actually been, you know, distilling and refining, and it now lives inside us as this. However you see it as this light, as this, this current, and it's this incredible wealth of wisdom that can't be touched or ever taken away, and it's yours, but we have to own and claim it now. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1:Thank you for that. Yeah, it is the reason we did it. It's like now, because you cannot walk with the wisdom if you don't go through the experience. Yeah, yeah, it's like you can't go through the experience.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's like you can't read about it in a book and then that's, that's the other piece of like what we see a lot going on on the planet. Like that's where it's. Like, no matter how much knowledge is accessible, knowledge is not wisdom. So knowledge can be wonderful, right To just pull the pieces that we need. At the end of the day, it's like the roots of the incarnation doesn't get you anywhere. Move through is like here's my, here's my bank yes, yeah, and that's the true feminine, that's the.
Speaker 2:That's the true feminine. It's in the body, it's inside you, and I mean what I love and adore and treasure so deeply, with us coming together and having this conversation. Whoever is listening and with us right now, in this like in this time out of time, is, I think, we're also at this space. So there has been a massive underworld initiation for us in this life and in many lives, and I think that us having these conversations now is so important because, as we're moving forward, we also need to integrate what, what just happened the last few decades. You know, it's like we're, we're making sense of it, our psyches are putting the pieces together where we had we've had this huge feminine soul retrieval journey through events and initiations, understand and also just so deeply honor and respect what we have just been through and take it forward into the future as wealth, wealth of wisdom, wealth of resources, wealth of embodiment of the true family.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's so beautiful.
Speaker 2:Thank you for sharing that, yeah yeah, I love it, we're on the same. We're like on the same wavelength. Let's just keep doing that. Yeah, yeah, I love it, we're on the same we're like on the same wavelength.
Speaker 1:Let's just keep doing that beautiful, yeah, yeah yeah, so is there anything else that's coming up for you? Is there anything that you want to share with the audience? Or, of course, we'll put your information below for them to be able to reach out to you yeah, I think.
Speaker 2:I think just that it's our time and I'm so excited and we're unstoppable. We already did like there's nothing to fear anymore, there's nothing to resist, like we're, we're here, we're doing it together, it is happening. And again, for me it's like because this question is really in the field. For me, it's like cause this question is really in the field for me at the moment is do the thing. And what? What do you need to do the thing? Like? What's the support, what's the container, what's the nourishment? And, out of love for yourself, claim it, do it, call it in and just just keep going with your path. Just trust, full trust, all in. I love that wisdom, thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, beautiful yeah. I mean, this has been amazing. I just feel like we traveled.
Speaker 1:I know we did. We traveled quite a bit, we did it's like yeah, yeah. Thank you, lineages. Thank you so much for your time and sharing your heart with us yeah, thank you so much for inviting me.
Speaker 2:I'm I'm being in this beautiful, intimate, rich conversation together and everyone listening, and it's it's the greatest honor and the greatest joy to to be on this path together I love it same same.
Speaker 1:So thank you everybody for tuning in and ciao for now.