Feminine Legacy Podcast With Jacqueline Hyacinth
Welcome to the feminine legacy podcast. This is an evolutionary platform where we gather to share our stories and wisdom, with the intent to preserve the sacred, and create meaningful legacies to impact future generations. Through live transmissions and conscious conversations we bring light into the darkness and lean into the mystery delving into topics include: womb wisdom, ancestral medicine, spiritual healing, rites of passage, feminine leadership and embodiment, sex, birth, death and so much more ... The future is now! Dream with us...
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Feminine Legacy Podcast With Jacqueline Hyacinth
Blooming Women ~ Embracing Cycles & Generational Healing
Have you ever wondered if embracing the natural rhythms of our bodies could unlock unparalleled wisdom? Join me, Jacqueline Hyacinth, and my dear sister and colleague, Tori Milner, as we navigate the profound journey of womanhood, exploring the sacred connections between our cycles and the divine feminine. Through heartfelt discussions and personal stories, we unravel the cultural narratives that have long kept women distanced from their bodies and each other. Our conversation promises to be a beacon for those seeking to understand the transformative power of generational healing and the wisdom shared between mothers, daughters, and beyond.
Get ready to explore the innovative "Blooming Women" immersion, a five-week journey aimed at educating women of all ages about the intricacies of menstruation, and fertility. Through this initiative, we aspire to cultivate nurturing communities that bridge generational gaps, offering wisdom that prevents crises rather than reacting to them. Tori and I highlight the importance of mentorship and the dynamic exchange of wisdom that can transform lives, as we challenge traditional societal structures and advocate for reclaiming female empowerment through understanding and self-awareness.
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https://torimilnercoaching.com/
Welcome to the Feminine Legacy Podcast. This is an evolutionary platform where we gather to share our stories and wisdom with the intent to preserve the sacred and create meaningful legacies to impact future generations. Through live transmissions and conscious conversations, we bring light into the darkness and lean into the mysteries, delving into womb wisdom, ancestral medicine, motherhood, feminine leadership and embodiment, sex, birth, death and so much more. The future is now Dream with us. I'm your host, jacqueline Hyacinth, mother, mystic, healer and feminine embodiment mentor. I offer training, healing, education and rites of passage. You can book your first session and sign up to receive a free gift at OurFeminineLegacycom. I'll drop the link in the show notes. With my whole heart, thanks for tuning in and, without further ado, let's get into this week's episode. Hey, my loves and welcome.
Speaker 1:This is the Feminine Legacy Podcast and I'm your host, jacqueline Hyacinth. Today I'm really excited to gather with a dear sister and colleague, tori Milner, who is in women's work. She is a devoted coach to mothers, women, teens, and we're here together because we are birthing a beautiful course and an experience for moms and daughters to really step into a deeper level of self-understanding through their menstruation and fertility. So I am welcoming Tori now. Hey, tori.
Speaker 2:Hi, jacqueline, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad to be doing this with you and to be sharing today. To like understand the depth and get it out there to our people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'm very excited to share all about Blooming Women.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 1:So Blooming Women is a five week journey.
Speaker 1:It's for mothers and daughters, but we're opening it up actually to all women, because so many women and so many mothers don't have this knowledge. We all grew up without it and we're going to lean in and talk about that. So it's a really beautiful opportunity for us generationally, no matter where you are, to come together, and I was just mentioning to Tori yesterday that there's this idea that somehow, like women are, should be separate from girls, and that the way in which we have created this separation within our generational expressions has cost a great deal of loss. Actually, where mothers and mothers and daughters have tension, there's not as much of a depth or a closeness, and I believe that there's a way to mend those gaps and one way is to bring us all together again, so where daughters are sitting next to mothers and women and we're all celebrating in the same spaces and the kids go in and out at will, but they have access to women together in the wisdom and they learn from the experience. What do you think about that, tori?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I can just think back to when I was 16 and this is when we met and how valuable it was for me to have elder women in my circle, mentoring me, being there, knowing that I could go to them, knowing that I had access to this which I could see, that it was something very rare and something very precious. I didn't see it in my community around me, I didn't see it in the girlfriends I had. They didn't have this same level of mentorship and support from the elder woman and I just remember how valuable it was and I've really carried that throughout my life. And now seeing how like I can be there for the next generation, that we're there for the next generation, supporting the, the younger girls, it just feels like kind of like a full circle that I got to experience this in a small way when I was young and to now start bringing it more and more into the world.
Speaker 1:I love that. When you said that, it just made me think about having an older sister and always the younger siblings. We just want so much to be older, to be with our older sisters, and normally our older sisters don't really want anything to do with us, right? They're in a different phase of development and so it's interesting. I just reflected on that and I yeah, I would really love to see this changing of culture where families are together and where we were not escaping our families, where, like, everything is really generationally sound. We experienced the wisdom from our elders and also from our youth, because they bring such a dynamic power. The consciousness they bring is so different than the preceding generation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally. I know that we speak a lot together around. You know the younger generation and the teenagers in our circles and, yeah, I can really see how so much of what they're sharing I'm learning from when I'm listening and when we're older it can sometimes be like, oh, we don't need to listen to the younger generation. There can be like a bit of resistance or a bit of shame around that. And to really be open to listening to the younger generation and to opening those connections between the younger and the older generations how healing and so much wisdom there is there.
Speaker 1:I love hearing you say that, absolutely. So let's jump right into that shame and that peace. So I'm a mother. I'm 49 years old, as you know, and I learned a lot of the wisdom that I'm still practicing now, much later in life. So, listeners, whoever's listening to this, it's important to understand that most of us did not have access to real fertility knowledge, like real information about our menstruation, ovulation, our hormonal balance infrastructure. So we're just now getting all this, or whenever a woman is having a hard time getting pregnant, that's when she actually goes on the journey of starting to learn about herself, because she feels like she's pushed to understand the window of opportunity. Our goal is to intersect there. So that way, this becomes a living practice before women go into a crisis point of of trying to get pregnant, and they become a more fertile expression throughout their lives, which will yield a different type of fragrance when it comes time to become pregnant with child.
Speaker 2:So it's like that's so beautiful, and I think it's also something that is just in our society in general. So, yes, how you were talking about learning the fertility knowledge, only when there's an issue, it's also like, oh, when we start struggling with period pain, when we have PMS, it's only then do we start thinking about our menstrual cycle and it's like, oh, but what about if we learn some of these things before all these crazy symptoms? Can we maybe support our body into being in a healthier alignment with nature, instead of waiting until it's like we're really, really suffering?
Speaker 1:yes, in this way it feels for me, like it has felt for me, changing culture, like not only do you have to bring online just the greater awareness. There's scientific knowledge, but most importantly it's a consciousness, but most importantly it's a consciousness. It's like it's an act of self-love to open oneself to be able to learn about. There's also humility around like we didn't know this and some of most of the moms I know, most of the adults I know, are not in awareness of this knowledge.
Speaker 1:So there can be shame and we oftentimes think there is the imposition of shame in culture around menstruation period. But there's also this other underlying shame of like I don't know this, I should know this, this should, and yeah, I'm feeling also guilty because we didn't have it to pass on to our children when they were coming of age. So there's this disconnect of rites of passage and the initiation into womanhood that we've seen generationally. That you and I are trying to mend that gap and create new processes, new ways for women and mothers to become engaged within themselves so that they can then restore this, like this health. This, it reminds me, just restore the rose really. Bring back online the strength and the power and the vitality. Like what does it really mean to inhabit a female body?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and the vitality, like what does it really mean to inhabit a female body?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and just to follow on from what you said, around the shame, shame, one of the things that happens when we're feeling shame, it's we shut down, we close off. So if we're feeling shame around you know, our menstruation, around our fertility, around, around our sexuality, around our bodies, so then we are literally closing off that connection, that communication, that conversation. And so, yes, it's so normal to have that shame because it has just been passed on, passed down, and just noticing how we're reacting to that shame, that, okay, I'm feeling the shame and I'm automatically closing down. Can I take responsibility? Can I decide that it's going to be different? And okay, I'm going to feel the shame and also make a different choice. And also, okay, this feels uncomfortable and through a loving, like love, through love from my daughter, through love for the future generation, through love for myself, I'm going to make a different choice and move through the uncomfortableness to reach the next, the next part of the story oh yeah, and there are times when we don't have it within us to do it for ourselves.
Speaker 1:Right, and that's also because of cultural conditioning. But if you're a mom and you're listening to this, if you don't yet have enough will inside you to do it for you, you can start by doing it for your daughter and that will be the impetus for you to open it up for yourself. But it will need to and eventually become a part of what you're longing for, because when we're even longing for it for others, there's a deep desire within for the self to to bring this restoration and, yeah, to be at peace with oneself and and to just do the things that, like we were born bleeding, like that's, it's part of our story for many, many years of our lives and, yeah, so it's really powerful. Do you want to speak a little bit about your, your journey with menstruation?
Speaker 2:yeah, sure, I would love to. So I had an interesting journey around menstruation. I firstly I started bleeding relatively late, when I was almost 16, just about to turn 16. And I also started bleeding after my younger sister, my younger sister, who is two and a half years younger than me. She got her first period, I think, almost two years before me. So there was this big gap in oh, I'm supposed to be the oldest sister, I'm supposed to know all these things, and I didn't know all these things.
Speaker 2:To impart that wisdom onto my, to my younger sister, I didn't really think. I think I never really went fully into it until I was in my early 20s and then I realized I want to understand more. I want, I don't want to be taking the pill, I want something different for my body. I felt very strongly that being on the pill did not feel right for me. I was on it for about a year and a half and then I was like no more. And then from that I started learning fertility awareness.
Speaker 2:I started tracking my own cycle and it really did open it, open things up. It really transformed my experience of being a woman and then I could go back and look at my past at all the things that had happened and be like, oh, like it kind of makes sense now, like I could only see it retrospectively, like, oh, this was all part of my journey and I know that it's. It was a blessing to have learned this knowledge and this wisdom at the age of 20 and I still wish I had learned it five years earlier, like I was, like it was still so strong, like I should have known this before, should again, but like I really wished I had known that knowledge five years earlier. And I know that that's a big part for me of this mission, of this mission that we share, of teaching and guiding the younger generation in this wisdom, because I could see how valuable it would have been for me if I'd learned that five years, five years earlier.
Speaker 2:Would you like to share around your experience? Yes, and how differently? How different we have, I know.
Speaker 1:That's what's so beautiful. I love how the day and night views, because this is how it is in the spectrum of womanhood. It's not a one size fits all. We're not supposed to look the same, we're not supposed to act the same. Every woman, full in her own right, has her own dynamic journey, and so we need to reclaim that, like that wellspring of yeah. So thank you for asking and yes, so I hit really hard times in my teenage years.
Speaker 1:I had just, you know, come through a loss. My father had passed away, and all that was like bubbling at this time when my hormones were on the rise. And so I think I got my period at when I was 12 or 13, and I had been longing for it, like I wanted it. I had an older sister, and so I had really wanted to experience my menstruation, and it fell short of my expectation because, because my father wasn't there, and I remember when my sister had her first menstruation, he bought her flowers. Yeah, so it was a, it was a tender spot for me, and so I continued on through the years and I always was very, very connected to my body and there was a lot of like I was. I was always wanting to know more sexually, like I was very, very curious and I didn't have I didn't have models or support in that way, because my family came from an old, traditional structure and we were already grieving and going through a lot, so that was not a template of sitting down with mom and getting the information. So I really didn't have much knowledge and my curiosity got the best of me and so I was pregnant very young and in the midst of that too, I had been on birth control for many years.
Speaker 1:I went on birth control when I was 13. I don't even remember why. At that point they were just like drugging us. My generation, generation X, was like in the United States, was like take this, take that. There was like no, there was no science, it was, we were the experiments, and so there was a lot of me just experiencing and taking things in. So I will just say that then I had experienced abortion, like there was a lot of heartbreak and not a lot of autonomy, like not a lot of governing and support infrastructure, and so this led to all sorts of chaos in my life. And then I became pregnant with my son, and I'm so grateful, and I was a teenage mom and I chose to keep him and that was a really arduous and beautiful journey for me.
Speaker 1:But throughout my life I played back and forth again on birth control pills and all the while there was this feeling like I was consistently self-initiating, like I knew that there was something more. I was always pushing limits, like I knew a lot of things that I didn't know how I knew them, but I knew that there was something more. I was always pushing limits, like I knew a lot of things that I didn't know how I knew them, but I knew, thankfully. But I knew that women were sacred, even though I couldn't quite put my finger on it, and I felt like I was doing all the wrong things trying to figure that out.
Speaker 1:And so my mission is really led by a deep well of understanding that now, as I've moved throughout my life and I've reclaimed all of this power and really got to look at like the younger me, that transverse this really horrific terrain, what it means, how sacred life is and how the choices I've made, what I would do a little differently, like what guidance I wish I had at a particular time, you know.
Speaker 1:So now I'm like I want to be a steward of that wisdom and offer that, so that women can consistently be looking within and that we understand our power. And we were not taught that. We're literally taught to outsource, and so it feels like such a deep blessing to take all of my challenges and hardships and offer them as like beautiful medicine. So like, hey, sis, you don't have to, it doesn't have to be that hard, here's a little something for you so that you can just carry on on your way without having to go into the depths of this, of these particularities, because there's it's not necessary. So I hope to create shortcuts for other women to deepen their sense of worth and knowing themselves, so they can create lives that are honoring of them yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's so beautiful, and I think it's so beautiful to hear that after your story because, firstly, it also takes out so much of the shame for the people who have also, you know, gone through abortion or through years on on being on birth control like, who have had similar stories. It's like, oh, I can live that story and I can still choose a new story whenever I feel like it like. It's like it can. It could have been that way for 20 years and it's still never too late to be like I'm taking responsibility and I'm choosing a new narrative, I'm writing my new narrative. So I think it just feels so empowering just to hear you and to see that it's possible, like, no matter what your background, no matter what your story, that it is time now to change.
Speaker 1:It is time now, and what I love so much about this timeline that feels so ripe in you and me, because we see generationally, we see that things want to change on the planet. And you know, we can be victims to culture and go along with the gang and stay in the fear-based structures, or we can use wisdom to guide us towards a new trajectory. And so if you want to change something, we have to be the change. And I had to get you know, play in the mud for a really long time to to garner the wisdom.
Speaker 2:and so now, like women don't have to do it, like we have more scientific research there, there's more clarity in the storm and it's we're so much more capable than we ever knew we were, than we ever taught we were yeah, I mean, I remember when I read the book taking charge of your fertility by Tony Weschler and it was like I was sitting in my university campus reading this book and there was a glass window in front of me and I literally wanted to put it up against the window and be like look, it's like why isn't everybody reading this? And I remember reading it and being like this is so simple, like this makes so much sense. And it's so simple, like it's not rocket science, like it's like simple things that bring us back to ourselves and it's like this can be easy. It was like the unlocking of something. It's like this can be easy and every woman can learn this, like every woman can understand this.
Speaker 1:Every woman can connect in this way, and it felt very like okay, it was really that changing point for me and, of course, I admire your story so much because I'm so grateful that you got to experience this younger so you could carry it longer, Literally. The way we bleed, the way we like our mindset when we're menstruating, the way our body is in relationship to our mind, the way everything is working together, it really sets a stage for how you're going to birth if you're going to birth a child later how you move into menopause, like how you hold yourself as a woman, the way you give of yourself the way you receive from the world.
Speaker 1:I mean there's so much here in that, in in nature, and that returning to nature, like we are literally daughters and sons of the great mother, like we're on this planet, a choice to, as you said, turn that switch when you're reading that book or something happens that just opens you up and you're like I have to find a new way, like that's when we go on the heroine's journey. Right, that's where we decide oh, it's all in my own hands. Like I don't have to outsource to the doctor and I get to insource. Who am I? What am I made of? What was my mama made of? What was my grandmother's made of? Like all these gorgeous women, like it's so, it's so powerful when you start to lean back into the sanctity of like who we actually are.
Speaker 2:I think it's so beautiful also because everybody, every woman's entryway can be different. So for me it was learning the science, like it was really that was my entryway. I first learned the science around my fertility, around my menstrual cycle, and that unlocked and allowed me to connect on a more spiritual level. But for some women it might be, you know, starting by being vegan, and then that is their entryway. And some women it might be, you know, through yoga. And some women it might be through crazy initiation, such as yourself, like. Each woman's journey can be different and we're all coming back to the same source. We're just finding our own pathways back, absolutely, absolutely so.
Speaker 1:When we talk about nature and we talk about, like, the body's ability to heal itself and not into not interfering Because there is such a, I mean, it's so beautiful now.
Speaker 1:There's so much science now that's coming up around menstruation, so many people are talking about it, which is an awareness that the divine feminine is rising in so many ways on the planet. Right, our education system needs to shift. There's so much that wants to be reborn for us to like take up full residency of our womanhood and sit at the center and the helm of our lives. So the power yeah, I guess I want to speak to the power of that Like the power of knowing that you're not a victim to something, that you're actually a part of it, like that our menstrual cycle is working for us, right, mental, emotional, spiritual debris that we have brought into ourselves during the month, but then there's also this opportunity for many of us to give birth later. There's just so much raw power in living in a female form and when we don't squander that shit and we learn how to cultivate it, it's, it's such an amazing opportunity to create a life that brings reverence and I think it's also important to to notice that our body is trying to guide us.
Speaker 2:Like our body is sending us messages, like there is all this power within and oftentimes we don't notice it and we don't realize. And our body is trying to get our attention. Like our body is sending us messages like hey, I'm here, look at me, come, come and find me, like, look inwards. So when we're experiencing things like period pain or PMS or things like this, it's not something, it's. It's really our body sending us a message saying hey, bring your attention inwards, I've got some medicine for you. Come, listen to me. And I think to to understand that our body is really collaborating with us. But it's really trying to help us. Like what you said it's, it's working for us, not against us. I I feel so in love with my body when I when I remember this, but I'm like thank you, thank you for trying to get my attention for all these years, thank you for trying to support me, thank you for holding me like thank.
Speaker 1:And I love when you say that, because there's a little part of me that is sad. Every period that comes for me, now that I know, like I know in my bones, like what it means for me to be given this gift, every month, for me to be given this body, and every month I'm like is this the last one? Like every time my period comes I'm like, honey, you know, okay, let's do our business this month. Like it's really I'm savoring it now which is so powerful because it sets me up, like mentally, in an infrastructure of I don't know I just want to say royalty, like whether it's royal mothering, royal womaning. It's just like this place where, inside of ourselves, we're already set up in a trajectory that it's more powerful and more aligned for us because we are walking with this sense of love and sacredness and that collaboration with the body. That's that one mint where it's like I'm checking in. I want to understand hey, something's wrong. What do you need? How can I support you? What are you trying to tell me? What am I not listening to? And we were taught not to listen me. What am I not listening to? And we were taught not to listen. So, this journey of, like menstruation and fertility.
Speaker 1:Awareness is really all about coming back to listen, and it appears like it's listening to the body. But it's listening to the body. It's also really listening to the soul. That's speaking right. That's saying hey, don't hang out with those friends anymore. Like you know that that's not, that doesn't feel good for you. Hey, we need to rest right now.
Speaker 1:Don't you know these things that we override in our environment all the time? We become so ingrained in toxicity in our culture that we start to believe that it's the norm and our soul and our bodies are signaling no, like this, there's an apprehension. There's something that is causing cramping, that's causing all of these headaches or these imbalances, is because there's something deeper, and I just want to say it's nobody's fault. So, to any of the women that are listening, it wasn't my fault when I was growing fibroids and that you know had to deal with so much. It's nobody's fault. There's just a lot of unconsciousness that needs to be brought into awareness for us to live in harmony as a being of nature, and we are on the journey. So we're here to help you do it more effectively, more quickly, so that you can access more of you now, like, let's not wait five, ten years like. The quicker you decide for yourself, the the more rapid the love affair and the story of your, your new love story, will unfold for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, and thank you for bringing that piece that it's nobody's fault and you're not doing anything wrong, like we're taking responsibility to make a different decision. And also we're not doing anything wrong. And I think I often have to remind myself that when I, you know, I still get period pain sometimes and I'm teaching this, and I'm like sitting there like I shouldn't be having pain, I'm teaching this and I'm like sitting there like, well, you shouldn't be having pain. I'm teaching this. I'm such a fraud.
Speaker 2:And it's like yeah, but no, like yes, most of the time I don't have pain, and sometimes I do, and it's not my fault and I'm not doing anything wrong and I'm doing the best I can and maybe it is just OK. I didn't move my body as much as I would have liked to this month. Okay, thank you for that reminder to move my body more. So it's like really coming back each time to this. It's really this act of love, like we're doing it not because we have to like, because it's schoolwork, not because we're doing something wrong, but because it's really something. It's a gift for us to be able to do this like yeah, it's such a gift.
Speaker 1:it is such a gift and when you think that fact that you and I are sitting in this rose right now and and openly speaking about menstruation and sex, our mother's generation, our grandmothers, nobody was doing that. So it is literally like it is time and I want our youth to learn it from real women, like not from chat, gbt, not from Google, you know, but from what's the texture of womanhood, like when you sit next to a woman who is in tuned with herself, who knows, who walks in her wisdom, you can feel it. Who walks in her wisdom, you can feel it. There is a depth and that depth is available for those that choose it for themselves, like it's, it's available to everyone who chooses it, and that responsibility is the key, because responsibility is power.
Speaker 2:As you're saying, that I remember, like I remember when I was 16 and looking at you and being like, wow, she's such a woman.
Speaker 2:Like I remember seeing that and not really knowing exactly what it was that I was seeing, but knowing that I was seeing something.
Speaker 2:And so now, hearing you speak about it, it's like, well, of course, that's what I was seeing.
Speaker 2:I was seeing the embodiment of you in your womanhood in that time and how I was receiving that, how I was like, how you were emanating and I was like, okay, yeah, this is one way of being a woman. This is a way of being a woman that I don't usually see, that I don't usually get examples of. So the more we're embodying it and giving our young generation more examples of what it is to be a woman because they see enough of it in social media and culture, they see enough of the other examples like let's start giving them things like the examples we want them to see. The examples that we know are true, that feel in alignment, like these are ways that we can be a woman, and each woman has a different way and it's going to look different and they're going to emanate something different, but, like the more of us that can start stepping up and emanate this. It's like our young generation will start seeing it and that feels very exciting for me it's very exciting.
Speaker 1:It's like a whole, it's like a dream come true. It's like literally wishing somebody would save me when I was younger and and like, help me. And now, watching these young women help themselves, watching these young women help themselves, like in this particular way, it's so potent. So, yeah, it is really, really beautiful and, as you said, it's so easy. It's so crazy that our culture tells us that it's like this is the alternative way and it's like this is the most natural way.
Speaker 1:Like you can have a very lush sex life and you can experience yourself in your whole. You know the entirety of your sexual nature, whatever way you choose to do that, and you don't have to take drugs, like you. Just you don't have to conform to a particular model, and it's. I want to be clear that I do have strong views on all this because I've tasted all of it. I'm not speaking from like I'm up on a ledge. It's because I've really experienced the full range of what, the distortions that happen inside of our experience as a woman when we leave our center right, when we take something in that changes our hormonal infrastructure and it leads us away from ourselves and we no longer know who we are. It's like living in a fake bubble.
Speaker 2:That's exactly how I felt. I remember like just what you've said now. Like that we don't know who we are, like living in this fake bubble. I remember the last month that I was taking the contraceptive pill. I mean, I don't know who I am anymore, like I don't feel myself. I don't even know what I'm feeling like. Who is this? What is? It felt like something had taken over and the the moment I stopped it was such a relief.
Speaker 2:And I've been practicing for the last eight years fertility awareness as natural contraception and I've been completely. You know, I've had a very beautiful sexual relationship with my little sister. She's I haven't had that many partners, but in my little sister's eyes she's like you've had so many boyfriends, but just that. It's like I have. I've had a few partners and I've been using a natural, say, fertility awareness as contraception and it's like. So it's not just for women who are married. They know that there's also a big thing of like. It's just for a woman who are married, this way of tracking your cycle. It's for any woman who wants to take her fertility and into her own hands.
Speaker 1:And that's the only hands that really should ever be in, yeah, from a place of power. Nobody has control then to guide you in a particular way. That is outside of what is true for you. Like you are the governing voice, so it wasn't always that way for me. Like I had to learn and go through a lot of that and I just will say that you have being around and having support of women who know I mean I'm so grateful. Today I still have my womb because of where I was at that time in my life, like I was.
Speaker 1:I was already steeped in the wisdom, but I was you wobble when, when there's a disease, when something's wrong, right, and then I like I had people in my community that like, hold that balance with me so I could make a decision. That was true, and it was an arduous journey for me as far as fibroids and deciding whether or not I could keep my womb, and it's important for our listeners. I mean 70, 80% of women will have fibroids by the time they're 50 years old here in the United States, so that means everywhere. So there's a there's a lot of, there's a lot to say about why our wombs and breasts are becoming so unwell. And science is, they're not spending money on doing the testing that will yield the results to keep you from them because there's a benefit.
Speaker 1:So you have to just become really, really aware and understand what's at stake. And it's not just us, like it is us, our wounds, our expression through life, our wounds, our expression through life. But it's also we do not know the damage that's being done to our DNA through the birth control pills and the impacts it has on future generation, even when we go off of it. Everybody. You know science is pretty much like, once you're off, not a big deal Bullshit. I know it impacted my son, like it changes things that are organic into a different expression, a different gene expression. So there are things that shift and when we alter and we play with this, we really don't know what we're doing generationally and how much of the wound, pain and the things that we're seeing are a result of that manufactured hormonal infrastructure.
Speaker 2:Right, and this is not I mean, this is not to scare you. If you are on the birth control pill or if you have taken it in the past, you know we've both been on it. Like we're not saying you're, and I know that. I know that you also feel this way, jacklyn, um, but yeah, we're not trying to scare you, we're just it is time for us to take responsibility. We have the ability to take responsibility of our own sexuality, of our own reproductive, of our own reproductive health, of our own fertility, and it's time for us to do that. And you can have made all the decisions you wanted in the past with the awareness you had then, and now, as we're shifting our awareness, we're shifting our choices.
Speaker 1:Yes, which is just so beautiful, because now we're just going to write a whole new story and like it's there's no financial implications. I mean this is the cheapest way to go. It's like it's the way of sovereignty. You might just need a box of condoms once a month for that, that small window. So it's just so beautiful, it's. It's.
Speaker 1:I know it's our prayer that this education of fertility awareness starts to become more mainstream and it is. There's women all over the world practicing. So, yeah, and something I feel like is relevant to just bring up is there's the the idea that, cognitively speaking, that like our youth, you know, the brain takes time to develop, and I I just feel like it's important, I feel like being where, where where our youth develops. They're so intelligent and the capacity that they have now, the generations of children that are on the planet at this time, I mean it's like whoa, and they have access to so much information and knowledge. So we have to steward that well as moms, as aunties, as fathers, moms as aunties, as fathers, as people in the community. And giving them access younger just promotes an easier transition. It's like learning a language when you're a child. It's easier to learn it if it's part of your infrastructure. Then you wake up in your adulthood and you're like I have to learn everything now, which was my story. So they're ready?
Speaker 2:yeah, they're ready, and I know that so many parents worry that if they expose their children to this information, then they're going to promote it and they're, you know, gonna say like go have sex, and like they're going to promote it. Then they're, you know, gonna say like go have sex, and like they're going to push their um children into this, and it's like they're getting the information anyway. They're gonna find it, whether they find it through porn or whether they find it through social media or in the playground at school. Like they, they have access to it anyway and they're going to do all these things anyway. And it's how can we provide a safe environment and a place where they know that they can find information that is correct, that is supportive of them, that is honoring of them, that they have access to this, rather than only having access to everything that is out there?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Thank you for saying that. And there's also this piece around being really honest with our youth around sex. Like they're mostly not ready for it, and it's so much more loving, not from a place of control, but from a place of respect. Like you don't know how to make your bed For those that are, like you know there are certain things that you might not be, that you're not prepared for. If you can't look at a chart and write down when you're bleeding, you're probably not ready for sex.
Speaker 1:Like we can start changing our minds about the way in which we're perceiving the realities at hand and get really, really clear. These kids are going to school and getting filled with information every day. They're learning facts about the past, you know how to lead us into the future, all these things, but they are ignorant about driving their, their main vehicle. So it is time we are ready, and I just think it's so beautiful what I mean to sit with a wise woman who is just sharing with you openly, not promoting sex, not in any way. We want to postpone until there's actually a readiness at the soul level, and so we're going to be dropping into some of that here, speaking into puberty, speaking into the full facets of rite of passage in a woman's life. It's just a journey that is continuously moving and reshaping us, and every day we get to become a new version of what that woman wants to express as or how we want to walk in our womanhood.
Speaker 2:But having that flexibility right yeah, and I know one of the things that you're often talking about when we're creating this course, when we've been creating it, it's how we can have a greater intimacy with our own bodies, first and foremost. So how do we build the intimacy with our bodies before we're intimate, before we give that intimacy away to somebody else? And this is something one of the core things that we're sharing in Blooming Women is really, how do we build this intimacy with ourselves, with our own bodies? It's also being aware of our yes, our fertility and our energy and all these little pieces of us, and we can discover ourselves more deeply before we start going and giving access to our sacred beings to somebody else.
Speaker 1:Yes, exactly, and it's so beautiful and important to acknowledge that there is no like right or wrong. There is a life journey, and so Blooming Women is really fostering and nourishing a deeper inner connection for you to make those decisions and discern them on your own, but there is still a framework of depth that is like oh yeah, it's kind of obvious. Like many of these things are really obvious, but our culture has really corrupted sex in so many ways the way we perceive ourselves. Even the fact that we go to the doctor once a year here in America for breast checkups and women ignore their breasts all year, like what an amazing thing to be. You know your breasts first. You understand what they feel like.
Speaker 1:What's the fibrous tissue like? So that way, when something does come online, you become aware of it. What do your insides look like? What's the fibrous tissue like? So that way, when something does come online, you become aware of it. What do your insides look like? You know, have you really sat down and taken a mirror? Have you invited your daughter to look at herself and to become aware of what? What does she look like? So that way, when something looks different, you know that something's changed, and so we start to become at in, in, at one minute with ourselves, and it's it just really opens up something at us at a psycho, spiritual level that that brings about a new way of living, a new sense of of self esteem, sense of health and vitality, of self-esteem, sense of health and vitality, and we want you to have access to that.
Speaker 2:Like why not you yeah?
Speaker 1:why not you?
Speaker 2:Why not you? Yeah, and I think it's really important because we're also bringing in so many of the topics that, okay, in general these topics are kind of hush-hush and filled with shame, but then you kind of have, within these topics, the ones that are talked about more and then the ones that are talked about less. So, when we're talking about, let's say, sex with teenagers, oftentimes it's focused mainly on contraception or, you know, abst or it's. There's a certain way that that conversation goes. But what about pleasure? What about? You know, these other facets of these conversations?
Speaker 2:So we're really trying to open up these topics in a way that we're really covering all the parts of the conversations that often get left to the side. So, yeah, talking about our fluids and really going into like, okay, what do our fluids look like at the different times of our month and and the different phases of our cycle, and like, what do my fluids look like and what do yours look like, and like really just opening up these conversations that really often get left behind. And the more we're opening them then the more we're normalizing them and bringing love to these things.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Tori, and especially with fluids. I mean these are things that I mean I have when my clients, they send me images of things that are going on and like I'm comfortable with that. So we want you to know that this is a space where you'll be able to explore yourself, and sometimes the system is such that there's all kinds of things that you are having to contend with, and so it's good for you to be surrounded by people who can support you in deepening and understanding what your body's trying to tell you. And it doesn't mean we know it all, but it means that when we come together and we use our wisdom and the teachings and the training that we have, that there is a space for more true knowledge and wisdom to be brought online for you to know, like what's your next step?
Speaker 1:What adjustments do you need to make in your life? What is your guidance telling you? What do you need to eat more of? How do you want to move your body and just really bring in the full complexity of taking responsibility for driving this vessel in a way that it's not a one size fits all. Like you and I, we have different body composition, we have different minds, our elemental disposition is different. So the way in which we operate, I might need 40 minutes of exercise and you might need 15, you know. So we have these optimum. We can start to develop this understanding about how to support ourselves and show up in the world show up in the world.
Speaker 2:So we will always be sharing from our experience and kind of a general you know, a general experience, but we will always, always, always, be encouraging you to explore your own experience, because this is the most important. So, yes, we can talk about okay, you will, you might see this fluid during ovulation, but actually, what is your exact fluid that you see during ovulation? Because it will look different, it might have similar consistency and it might have similar qualities, but it will still be unique to you. So, yes, we can offer our wisdom and we can offer our guidance, but first and foremost, it's coming to your own wisdom, coming to your own guidance and to your own experience in your own body.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and for those, no matter where you are, as we said earlier. So for mothers and daughters, yes, and we're not saying it could be adolescence, it could be teenage years, it could be 20s, 30s. We are really opening this space up because we know that when women come together at all ages, that this is what really brings us together. We're learning from one another in such a dynamic way. So if you feel like I don't know anything about my body and I just want to come learn in a supportive environment, come and you can be single, you can be 30, 40, 50 years old, and even if you come because many moms will be going into menopause or be in that time and they have a younger, a younger daughter I promise you it's like a living soul retrieval to receive this nectar and this bomb, to be sitting with this wisdom.
Speaker 1:It's healing, no matter where you are in your life. Give it to your own, to your inner child, give it to your own inner woman, the maiden that never got expressed, never got supported in her womanhood. And in doing this, you really really open up a pathway for generational healing, because that's what it is that we're essentially a part of whenever we're dealing with menstruation and the womb. We're really talking about changing generational culture and how it expresses itself through our genes, through our bodies, and repairing DNA and optimizing health and the infrastructure. We still don't even know yet what the impact will be from the work we're doing now, generations later, what's possible, what they'll need, with the scope of what's going on on earth right now, who will? How will they have to express themselves in order for them to be like, to transform so much of the environment that is, um, yeah, that is filled with, uh toxins?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but just as you're speaking, it really it brings so much excitement and hope and motivation and like, yes, we're, like, we really truly it really is a movement. Like I can really feel that, as you're speaking, as we're building this program, this course, like I can really feel like, yeah, we're like stepping up, we're part of this movement and like join, come and join, like we are in this together.
Speaker 1:This is our movement, like this is for us it is, it's for us, it's for all of us, it's a whole new way of expressing ourselves through culture, and this, this may, in the future, be be the narrative. Can you imagine that?
Speaker 2:would be amazing.
Speaker 1:A tree is a tree, it just is. Rain comes, sun comes, and the tree is consistently growing and strengthening with the nourishment around it. And if we could allow ourselves to be attuned to that power, it's available to us, yeah, oh thank you so much, thank you.
Speaker 2:Shall we give just a few little like logistic details about the course?
Speaker 1:yes, let's do it beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the course itself is a five-week course. We are starting on January 12th, so we have three live calls together and then we have five weeks of pre-recorded videos for you to watch. So it's really a journey that you're taking in the comfort of your own home in your own time. We know that everybody's got busy schedules and trying to organize teen, daughter and mother schedules together, which is why we made it in this format, so it would be just that you can choose your time and each week we're diving into all the different foundational topics that we've spoken about today rights of passage, menstruation, fertility, puberty, your sacred anatomy, sexuality, your emotional well-being. Like we're really, it's a really all-encompassing course where we're going deep into each of these topics, and it really is the foundational woman's wisdom that we wish that every woman would have access to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 2:Would you like to add anything more about that part of the course?
Speaker 1:Just that we're going to be doing it on a heartbeat platform, so we're really going to be involved. This is not like we're hands in. We are really devoted to this and it's our first time running this particular program, so yeah, it's, we're still doing something and so we're involved, and so we want it to be an active space where questions and answers are like are there? Where experiences are being shared. There's going to be a sacred crafting project so that you can deepen. There's this. There's a quality of creating with your hands, putting your hearts and hands together to uh move through particular initiations or journeys. You're going to learn how to literally chart your menstrual cycle, and we have some really beautiful maps and just some cool things that you get to do together, or or not, but the fact it's so beautiful that you can do it together. It's like we're learning this together as women, as young women and older women. Yeah, so beautiful. I'm so excited about that.
Speaker 1:And if you're an auntie and you want to take it with your niece, like your goddaughter, like whatever it is, this is a beautiful gift that I cannot. I don't know that I can, oh, that I can put in words, but this is not a regular class. This is not like just an online class. This is you're being given an opportunity to. It's like a golden seed, and how you choose to walk with it and bloom it is really up to you. But through the knowledge, if you practice it, you will develop wisdom. If you practice it, you will develop wisdom, and it this five weeks can really change your life because it's changing ours, even just being together, creating it. So, yeah, come and receive what's yours and yeah, come and be loved. I mean, that's what teaching is. Teaching is loving others, and so we want to teach you to love yourself and to be aware and to use these tools that we're giving you so that you can walk throughout your womanhood and feel this sense of sacredness and power.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm so excited to meet the women who are going to join us, whoever you are. Yeah, I can really feel this real community building around this and it's very exciting yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Come join us.
Speaker 1:Come join us. So thank you so much for listening and thanks, tori, for always for being here and for sharing in this beautiful mission together thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you for the invitation, thank you for, yeah, holding this space together you're welcome.
Speaker 1:You're welcome. All right, everybody, we'll see you in the container. Ciao for now.