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Nic Watson | Class of 2027 | Grind Prep Academy | Victory, Australia
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Nic Watson is a 6'3" guard who can flat-out shoot the basketball. He makes it easy on a point guard who loves to stay in the lane with his ability to consistently knock down shots. He can consistently knock down the three-ball and has a nice one-dribble pull-up if you run him off the perimeter. The Victory, Australia native will do great things at Gring Prep Academy in Oklahoma City, OK, this year as he comes to America to gain more exposure on a bigger stage.
And we are back with another great prospect. This time around, we have another one. And he is actually not from the States. I'm Coach Miller, and I have my co-host. Coach Miller. It's two of us. But at this time, instead of me introducing the prospect, I'm gonna allow him to introduce himself.
SPEAKER_00What's up, everyone? I'm Nick Watson. I'm from Australia, and I play for Grind Prep class of 2027. So Nick, how long have you been playing basketball? I've been playing. My mom actually started basketball for us in a little small town in Australia when I was six, and I got to play. You know, that's where I I I played all different sports, but Australian football, basketball, you know, everything like that. But six years old.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay, okay, okay So six year old, that's that's pretty young.
SPEAKER_01Um at what point do you think you like you you took it seriously and and like it was time to I think I think when I was like I like as I was saying like my parents would put me in all different sports, everything like that.
SPEAKER_00But uh I think 13 I really decided that like well maybe it was like maybe when I was like 10 or something, I was like, yeah, basketball is something that like I would really do, but I still kept doing the other things and I was like, you know, I was just keep playing playing everything, you know. I was I was a kid, but at 13 I really decided, you know, this is my this is my thing, and uh this is something that like I could really do, you know.
SPEAKER_04Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So what what was what's been your best performance as you feel like you've had throughout your throughout your career?
SPEAKER_00I've I've had like a lot of like memorable things. Like I've been on a semi-pro team in Australia since I've been about 15. Like there's been some times where like I I'm not even saying I played good, but like some opportunities against some pros there. But I think when I first came last year to grind prep, I had uh I had like a great game. I I I was really high efficiency against Sunrise Christian, and I feel like that's my so far that's my that's my best performance, but I think there's a lot more to come.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01So you um you know basketball has ups and downs, right? So what would you say would be one of the times where you learned the most from a game?
SPEAKER_00Uh I think, you know, uh we played, so I played for this this uh Puma team at AUSA. We we came we came over that time, and when I came to America last year, just the times when I got to come over here and play, like just the amount of people like I have to go search, search to find like other Americans that's in Australia, this, this, like I have to find that. But what when I came here, got to see it in the flesh, play against, you know, high school teams, prep teams, AAU teams, like the the times I got there, I would just I came there before I even played, sat in the gym, watched it, and just like the amount of stuff I could learn from just watching them and how people moved and the people I got to talk to, the older people that's been through it, like there's been a lot of learnings. But I think definitely coming to America both of those times straight away, there was definitely like as soon as as soon as I got there, there was so much I could take to.
SPEAKER_01So you you so you mean like is it more physical here in the States?
SPEAKER_00Is it quicker? What what do you mean? I think yeah, yeah, it's it's definitely more physical. Uh there's definitely things over there that is uh that is that's different to here. Like I feel like I I'm not saying that that we're smart or anything, but like they teach a lot of IQ things because it's less physical and skill, I wouldn't say less skilled, but like it's a lot of ball movement. You you have to cut here, you have to like, and if if if you don't do it in a certain little like little intricate way, and they they really like they're really hard on those type of things, like like the IQ s IQ side. Well, they're learning when to cut here at like nine years old instead of like like you know, but here way more physical, way more athletic people, way more like uh like people that can do more things, like like a big can go and shoot it. Like there's just just it's better here for sure.
SPEAKER_03We can't okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04So so who is that one person? You know, we all got that one person that when I play against fill in the blank, this person, I know I gotta bring my A-game. Who who's that one person for you?
SPEAKER_00I think I could say I'll shout out to him. Last year, I had a teammate from Chicago, his name is CJ Thomas. Like, and he this is the first time I ever met someone from Chicago, and uh, we definitely get into it when we play each other, and I think that like it even that I wouldn't even say that's like the best person I played against, but when when I play him, I guess it's ultra competitive, it's a really like tough environment. I think we make each other better, but CJ Thomas from Chicago, that's that's my guy. Definitely that that's the guy when I think when you say that question, I think it fits straight away.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01When was uh I think I saw you play a little bit today, and I I thought I saw you getting up on the rim a little bit. Um yeah, just a little bit. So so when was the first time you dunked?
SPEAKER_00You know what? I looked at this question, and I'm I'm not gonna lie to anyone. At 15, just before my birthday, I got one, but I didn't have it on the camera, so I don't know if I'm gonna count that, but a few weeks.
SPEAKER_04Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00It counts. It counts. Alright, well, 15, just before my uh 16th birthday, a few weeks after my 16th birthday, I got a nice one on the camera, everything like that that I could show for it. So uh around that time, but I'll say 15, that was the first time I got I got a dump. Okay, okay which by the way, I think the air is different in America because every time I come here, it feels easier to do. I don't know what it is, like I don't know if the room's back home or high, I don't know what it is, but I I I can I'm I feel like I'm getting up there both places, but when I come here, when I felt oh my gosh, it's way different.
SPEAKER_04So so when basketball is over with, right? Because basketball's gonna end for everybody at some point in time, what do you want to do when it's all said and done?
SPEAKER_00Man, like I'm I love this game so much, but like, so it's definitely gonna they're gonna have to someone's gonna have to drag me out even when I'm retired and everything like that. But I think you know, like, I think inspiring the like the younger people, like I've got a lot of people back home that like say came over from America, they became pros there, and they like poured some knowledge into me. Like uh you know, that the mentors to me. I think you know, I would I would even if it's not making money doing that, that would I think like inspiring some of the younger people that are trying to go through the the path that I'm going through. Okay, I think I think that's something that that I would I would definitely like to you know tap into.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_00I can do that now, but like I think you know, especially when I'm not not able to play this game, like I I definitely will uh try to show the youth some some better ways. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Now you said your mom um got you into basketball. Yeah. Um so this next question who's the best shooter in the family?
SPEAKER_00It's gotta be me. No one working their game.
SPEAKER_01No gotta be you.
SPEAKER_00Hold on, Nick, hold on. I got two little sisters that both hoop. I got, but the thing is in Australia they play netball, right? I don't know if y'all ever seen that. Everyone watching this gotta do their research, but netball. What is netball, man? It's it's no backboard. You probably seen it on those. Oh yes, yes, yes, wow. It's it's like it's like a not fun, uh less fun a version of basketball. I don't know what it is.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, cuz because like you can't dribble and like you have to.
SPEAKER_00Like, but my mom used to be really good at that, like in our local, like, you know, she played like a lot of games. There's some pictures of me when I was a little kid and she ran through the you know, whatever, maybe playing 300 games or whatever. So I come from like a my dad play Australian football, he used to. And uh, and uh like I come from like an athletic type of family, but but like they didn't hoop. Like I I kind of stick with the hoop thing, and then my little sisters also play, like uh, you know, some a little younger than me, but yeah, it's it's definitely me.
SPEAKER_01I don't know, man, because you say your mom's really good at netball, which sounds more difficult than that. Listen, so she might be the better shooter.
SPEAKER_00I might take her over one of my sisters though. She she got a real nice jump shot.
SPEAKER_04Okay, okay, yeah, cuz because I've seen netball. Now, what what was this big that wasn't there some um some big deal about netball and I forget what it was, but I seen something on the news about netball where I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. They like I I'm not sure, but Netball is a weird sport. Like I got I I think it would be fun, but like the it's just it's just different. Like I showed uh some of my coaches from Grind, like Netball. I was on the phone with them and they were just like, What? Like this thing makes it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm gonna Google it once we get out of here.
SPEAKER_04No, I know what it was. I know what it was. There was a group that got in trouble because they beat somebody in netball like really bad. Really? Yes, yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_00I don't know, but like I I don't know if I see that, but like, but like I but yeah, netball, netball is a crazy sport. There's like, but it's actually harder than you think. Like, I promise those those girls that do it, like it's only only there's men's netball, but not very much. But like the girls that do it, they're athletic, like they they really get to it. Like they're yeah, it's tough on your knees and everything like that. But yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah. So so who do you model your game after?
SPEAKER_00You know what? I always uh used when I was a few years less mature, I used to say no one. I used to say I'm my own player, which I still believe that, but obviously, you know, you have to take parts of people's games. Like I used to really love Kemble Walker growing up, because and then I had a little gross bur, which like changed it a little bit, like became like but I think Kemble Walker, who else do I watch? I watch a lot of college guys. There's so many people. I like De'Aaron Fox, even though his his lefty, which is a little bit different, but Campbell, like I used to just love watching him all the time.
SPEAKER_01Man, they're both very shifty.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like that's I feel like that's a part of my game, but then there's also like I feel like I got a little deli about me, you know, Matthew Della Vodova from Australia.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like, I bring to like, you know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, uh there's there's a few more people that I watch. I've started watching people that like a little bit taller and like shoot it a little bit more like that, but like, you know, I feel like Chemba definitely that first person come to my mind that I really like to watch.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01I got a question for you. Sure. So if I go to Australia, man, and if I can like not die by any of those spiders and scorpions, everything else crazy I got over there. What what should I go eat, man? I love food. What should I get?
SPEAKER_00You need to get your palmer. I don't know what y'all call it. It's like a chicken schnitzel with like it has like sauce and cheese, and you get fries and a salad next to it. You go to a pub, you have to get it from a pub and uh like a I don't know what y'all call that, like a bar or whatever, but like that's where they go to like in a local country town in Australia. That's the food that I'm gonna probably miss the most.
SPEAKER_04A Pama. Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_00Some people call it a Palmy. I don't know why, but never call it that because that depends on what state you're from in Australia.
SPEAKER_01Okay, yeah, yeah. Don't set us up for failure. You gotta make sure we say it right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, a Palmer. Just go ask for that and they'll get you right, I think.
SPEAKER_04Okay, so question for you. Being over here, what is your favorite type of food to eat? You know what?
SPEAKER_00There's so much more food here that it's crazy. Like, hey, but you know what? It took me a little bit to it takes me a little bit to get used to it because there's some like dye and like stuff that's banned here, no, banned over there that you've got banned here, like Red 40, and so like makes you feel a little sick straight away. But I think I missed like Taco Bell and Chipotle, like those, those type of stuff. Like, we didn't we have kind of have that. We actually have Taco Bell now, but they just the only thing we have is Maccas and KFC. That's it. Oh McDonald's, well, that's what we call it. But McDonald's and KFC is the only thing like we have like other things, but that's like you know how y'all go down the street and there's just like 20 things, there's only like two when we go. But yeah, no, it's it's just the I would to answer your question, I would just say not one thing in particular, just the variety.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04Other question that I have is they said when they talked to Luca in the NBA that he said it's easier to score here in America because it's more spread out. Yeah, I would say would you agree with that or what's what's your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER_00I don't know even if it's more spread out, but I would think it's easier to score here because like they they work on like I'm not saying they don't work on defenses here. Like I think a lot of here we work on heaps of one-on-one defense, but over there, we might spend hours and hours in a practice on just like the help spacing and this and this. Like they really big into like where you're in help and how we rotate and how this. I just think that like even if you can get by a guy back home, it just doesn't work as well if you just get by a guy here. You only might have one guy to get through. But this they might they are they're just really good at scrambling and rotating. So I think it I I would say it's harder to uh score over there, but it also in in my case, there's also not as many better people over there, so that kind of like changes itself out. But if at the highest level of both, I would I would say it's easier to score here, but but like then again, it is better here.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay, no, that makes sense. No, that definitely makes sense, man.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I would say I just watching it because I watched a couple of your games. Um, you played before uh two of my guys played, and I could tell that your IQ was different because you were actually trying to coach your team up when you were like telling them when to cut and stuff like that, which I thought was dope. Um so I was like, Yeah, he he got you definitely have the IQ.
SPEAKER_00Man, today I'm still jet lag. I came off that flight Friday, 25 hours in the air. I played that first game. I was like, I thought I was good. I've never experienced jet lag like this, but I was a little tired today. But now definitely like my IQ is something that I feel like is a recruitable factor for me, like that I can like and I I feel like that like once the coach says what his type of plan is, I can really think about it and be a leader to a team, which is what I've tried to do today, knowing that like I had some guys on my team that were younger than me, and some guys that I knew I could definitely be a leader with. And I feel like my team went pretty well today. We didn't have we didn't even really have a beat, but we we fought we beat some team really good just just by you know how we're playing defense, how we were cutting, how we'll find each other. So I think I I I feel I play better basketball when other people are doing like the right things and making the right reads than to just me playing downhill, which I I know I can do, but that's not that's not you know the game. Definitely, but yeah.
SPEAKER_04So so any other things that you would like a college coach if they're watching this to know about you?
SPEAKER_00You know, like I feel like I feel like everyone has to have this mentality, but I really feel like the work shows, like, I feel like uh for me to get here, it took a lot of work, but like I feel like you gotta believe that you're the hardest worker, you're the hardest worker on the planet. I really do believe that about myself, and I think that any program I get to, like, that's something that I'll uh not change in the program because obviously like college is tough, but like like instill into the not just not just them, but like the other guys and stuff. Like I'm I'm a I'm a leader and I, you know, uh people follow by example, so I think my hard work definitely speaks volumes. Obviously, my IQ and and then just my heart. Like this this is something I really care about, something that I want to do, I'm all in with, so I'm I'm willing to do anything, you know.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04Well, hey, Ned, we want to say thank you, man. Um, I definitely hope you enjoyed yourself at Prosper's Camp. So got a chance to compete against some really good good guys. Um, and want to tell you good luck with your season this year with grind prep.
SPEAKER_00Yes, sir, man. I I appreciate your having me on today. It's been a great opportunity. I appreciate you having me at the camp. Like I was super excited. I actually changed my flight so I could come to it.
SPEAKER_03Oh wow, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_00Um, yeah, like I really appreciate y'all having me on today, and it's been great, man. It's been great talking to you. Hope you can keep saying tapped in.
SPEAKER_04Yes, sir, yes, sir. I definitely will, man. Of course. Thank you.
SPEAKER_01All right, have a great season, man.
SPEAKER_00Appreciate it, appreciate it. Thank you.
SPEAKER_04All right, so yes, Nick Watson from Australia, Victoria, Australia, Victory, Australia, to be exact. And hey, he is a great prospect. So now at this point in time, we're gonna transition into player development. Player development. And Coach BJ, the first question I have for you is what do you think about what Nick said with overseas, they practice defense a whole lot more.
SPEAKER_01Um he wasn't lying. Um, it was a harsh truth. So a few years back, um, I had the opportunity to go with uh Andre Collins, Andre Matthews, who took a bunch of guys from the Eastern Shore of Maryland and Delaware to Italy, and we played in the tournament. And they play basketball different. Um they swing the ball. Um they're not trying to just break you down one-on-one, looking for a lot of corner threes. Extreme, everyone was helping in the gaps and stuff like that. Now, we were blessed. What we had, we exploited it, we were more athletic, right? They could not keep up. So it was it was like Styles makes fights, right? So we we I think we went three and one while we were over there in Rome. But with what he's saying, he was absolutely right. Um their IQ was above ours. Um but we had the better athletes.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Not not um I I agree. I think I think now when I say this, I'm not saying that AU, all AU is created equal and bad. But I think where US sometimes can where we can get into trouble is we start putting our kids in competitive basketball too early.
SPEAKER_01Oh man.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna give you a per perfect example. So I have um I have a friend of mine that whenever I did AU, we competed against each other. And his kid was actually at my camp. Um, and we talked about how we all competed against each other. You know, when we were young, it was about it was about three or four dads that was there that like I've known their kids since their kid was in first grade, and my teams compete against their teams. And some uh sometimes I would kick their tail, sometimes they would kick my tail. So it was a healthy competition, you know, and what ended up happening was um I talked to to my friend at the camp, and I was like, man, like like you know, we talked this was Xavier's four now, so when Xavier was about one, um we sat down and you know we were both kind of out of AU and kind of have have moved on. And he said, Man, Shab, if I had to do it all over again, I would have did it differently. And I asked him, I was like, man, what what would you have done differently? He said, I would have waited to put, I wouldn't have been so quick to put my son in AAU. And he said, My program probably wouldn't have existed because my program started just because I wanted to help my son. And that always that always stuck with me. And so we came back, you know, had that conversation and we were laughing about it and stuff like that. And I and I told him, I said, yeah, no, I'm not gonna be so quick to put my son in AU. Like he's actually playing soccer right now. He's like, bro, that's the perfect sport. That's the perfect sport to put him in. Gets his footwork right, you know. And then I told him, I said, the next sport I'm gonna put him in is I'm gonna put him in tennis. Because my goal is to build the whole athlete. My goal isn't just to play a lot of games and stuff like that. And and and I hear what people are saying. People are like, oh man, you gotta get the competition purposes. You know, it's for competition.
SPEAKER_01But you can simulate that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but compet competition is a mindset.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm saying like and you compete in anything you do. That's like a mindset. If I'm gonna compete, um, I can compete in Uno, I can compete in spades, no matter what I'm gonna do, we can thumb wrestle. I want to win it all. So that because that's what was instilled from an early age.
SPEAKER_04So yes, and and and my four-year-old right now, if he loses, he is going to be hot.
SPEAKER_01That should be.
SPEAKER_04He's gonna be mad. And so I don't need AU to put that competitive nature in either of my sons. Because even my two-year-old, if he if he loses anything, like Zion, my two-year-old thinks he's supposed to win everything. He he thinks he's supposed to beat his four-year-old brother and running. And if he loses, he's going to be hot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. No, it's and and then also like AU is it's getting in an interesting place. I don't know if it ever can be fixed, um, because it's it's so money-driven now. Um, and so they're preying on the young ones.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Uh, because they know they have these high fees, you're gonna pay them. And then when you're not gonna drop the kid off, right? You're gonna want to watch them play, so they're taxing you with the uh the entry costs, and then they'll put put you in, you'll play two or three games a day, but they'll they'll spread it out just long enough that you don't want to really leave to go get something to eat. So then they gotta confess it. So it's just like you're just you're just stuck in just spending money, spending money. It's it's a machine. And so it's like and and that's why you get you know, parents are frustrated and send spells over to the kids and they don't understand what's going on. And yeah, some programs aren't even practicing, they're just playing games, so then how are kids getting better? They're just getting yelled at. So it's like you gotta get to the to the basis of skill development. Yeah. We're gonna get better. Yeah. Growing. You know, it used to be with kids would play AAU, high school coaches would be excited to hear that because they knew that their kid, that their that their coach will come back better. Coaches now, they're getting kids, they got the same issues they had the year before. The only thing that's worse is they got more attitude.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So I don't know. I don't know how to get fixed.
SPEAKER_04I think the biggest thing with AU, and and now I'm going to being on AU side, is parents have to stop relying on AU to help your kid get better. I tell I tell parents this all the time. There's actually four different types of AU, right? There and so there's the local development type. And with the local development type is their goal is we're gonna practice as much as we can and we're going to play as much as we can. And that's going to, the goal is to help all our kids get better, which is what NOU was. Right? Then the next step up, you have we don't practice, but we just get together and play. So now if you're going to play in that particular setting, what you have to do is you have to make sure that your kid is in the gym. Right? The next setting is what I call the interchange setting. And the interchange setting is the team doesn't necessarily have a consistent roster. They're constantly picking up kids and coming and playing. And that particular setting is for, it's simply, it's it's almost like the first one I said, but the goal is just to get you repped. And so, and then the last one is of course the circuits. You know, and with the circuits, with some circuit teams, you might practice, some circuit teams you might not practice. But regardless of what setting you are in, the constant and consistent has to be is you have to stay in the gym by yourself.
SPEAKER_01You gotta put in your own work.
SPEAKER_04That has to be consistent across the board. And so when I hear a parent saying that, oh man, AU don't make you better, guess what, honey? It wasn't supposed to. AU was set up for you to compete. It wasn't set up for you to compete.
SPEAKER_01It's a part of the process of getting better. It's not the uh not just somebody just miseducated.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, the YMCA and the Boys and Girls Club, if you if if you're young enough or if they have leagues, that's the leagues that you play in if you're trying to, if you're really trying to get better. You go play in Nos League, some rec league. You know, you're able to try stuff and get gain confidence in it. Those are those are the type of leagues you're playing. You don't you don't necessarily do AU ball for that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you can't try you can't, you know, you can't be blaming travel teams, high school coaches, AAU coaches. If your kid is playing more video games than they in the gym, if they partying on it in the gym, they doing anything else more than they in the gym, working on their game. Maybe, maybe I gotta look internally.
SPEAKER_04Agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed. Alright, I got a question for you. What is the the funniest excuse you've ever heard from a parent as to why their kid isn't getting better?
SPEAKER_01Umniest excuse. Uh I've been around a while. I've had I remember I had a dad one time kind of a practice. 'Cause he just knew that it was that what I was telling him wasn't true. And I always had an open apology. So he came to practice and he's watching. And he said, hey uh coach, my son's not doing this right. I was like, I know. I know. And you're here. And I'm gonna have to get on him, and you heat. Right? So I yell at his son, get it right, gets it right. He starts doing something else. Hey coach, does he normally do this? Yeah, yeah. And I have to yell at him and then he gets mad, I guess run. Halfway through Pratt, dad comes to me. Hey man, I'm sorry. Rolls out. And it and it was like like you're here, he's not doing right. You're here, he's a senior, and you were like, like, he's gonna say it. Um but no, I um I've been blessed to have really great assistance when I was a head coach. Um at uh different I was a head coach, two different uh high schools, and my assistant coaches, man, have done a great job of like buffering the bullshit. Um so I I don't get a lot of the excuses. Um so I always say, man, if anyone's a head coach, like get good assistance so they can they can buffer it. Yeah. Um because I don't got time for excuses.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I don't.
SPEAKER_04Um I would say the the funniest thing that I ever heard. So I was I was coaching, right? And um this parent comes up to me and she says, um, I just don't understand. Like she don't even say hi. She's at the end of the press, she was like, I just don't understand. I was like, what are you talking about? You don't understand. What don't you understand? She's like, why my kid is so lazy? Oh hello, hold on. It gets better. It gets better. Ain't my child. Like, okay, okay, so it gets better. So I said, I looked. I said, now mine, I knew how old her son was. I said, how old is your son? She was like, he's 11. I was like, okay. So in his 11 years, has he ever seen you work out? She stopped for a second. She was like, well, no. I said, okay. I said, what's your number routine when you go home? After you pick him up from school. She's like, well, I just sit on the couch and watch TV.
SPEAKER_02I said, okay.
SPEAKER_04I said, is his daddy in the house? Now Mike already knows yes, his daddy's in the house. She said, yeah. I said, what is what does daddy do? She said, well, he just kind of, you know, we just kind of sit around and watch TV and just hang out afterwards. I said, you you never go in the backyard and play with him or anything? She said, no.
SPEAKER_03I said, okay.
SPEAKER_04I said, so let me get this straight. I said, who else is he around? Is he around anybody else that, you know, is physically active? And she says, no, he spends most of his time. And I said, um, I said, Mom, I got news for you. Our kids do what they see.
SPEAKER_01So I said they see better than they can hear.
SPEAKER_04If you want your kid to stop being lazy, maybe it's time for you to do something different. And she stopped, she looked at me, she kind of looked over a little bit. She's like, you know what? You're right. She didn't get mad. She was like, You're right.
SPEAKER_01The worst thing can happen is you guys get more active. Hey. Right?
SPEAKER_04Hey, listen. They started going on family walks, they started doing, they started getting getting super active. And Brother Man got better because his work change because he seen his mom and dad's work work at the change.
SPEAKER_01That's awesome.
SPEAKER_04And so the thing is, is for those parents that say, oh man, I got a lazy child. I challenge you, parent. Look at yourself. Because if your child is lazy, it might be because they're looking at some lazy parents. I'm just saying. I mean, I ain't saying that, you know, I ain't got nothing against your home routine of wanting to watch your shows because you worked hard all day.
SPEAKER_02But what I am saying is if you're gonna complain about your child, make sure that you understand that your child is the way they are because of you.
SPEAKER_01Not the coaches. They don't live with the coaches.
SPEAKER_02The coaches only got them for a couple hours a day. And they with you for at least 12 to 14 hours a day. So I'm just saying, just take a look. Before you broke down, I can't, I don't understand why my kid is lazy. I do, and it might be because of you.
SPEAKER_01Hard reality.
SPEAKER_04Really is so let's transition. Since we're talking about working out, let's transition into fitness. And the question that I have is what are three things that a parent can do to motivate a child to live a physically active life?
SPEAKER_01Um, one be open and honest, especially if they have a struggle with something, you know. Uh like, you know, like, hey, you know, I I struggle eating vegetables or I struggle drinking enough water or something like that, because it it it brings you down a little bit, right? And so now the kid can be like, oh, okay. Well, my parent is is struggling with something and they're trying to do better, also. Um also trying to go through a journey with them. You know, being participatory. If if your kid is is trying to get you know, gain, you know, gain weight or get stronger, you guys, you know, have write down some goals and and track it and do it together. It doesn't have to be the same goal. Um, but it can see that you guys are fighting for something. Um and I think like also just really being present um helps. Help helping them um being a cheerleader, right? Being you know, everyone needs a cheerleader. Everybody needs needs needs uh not a yes man but a hype man sometimes. Um because when you're going for goals, no matter who you are, you have times where you're just you don't feel like you can make it. You don't feel like you can you can really do it. Um and that's when they need you know parent to be like, hey man, you got this. Yeah, I get I get it, I get it's tough I get it's tiring, I get it's tough right now. Yeah, you might fail, fell short, you got this.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. Yeah. My my my three things would be um I would agree with you, like be open, honest, and honest, open, and transparent about your own journey. Um I would also say the second thing I would say is make physical fitness fun. Because making it fun, um they'll always want to be a be a part of it. And what I would say is try to explain to them and model that physical fitness isn't necessarily tied to a sport. Because if they stop playing that sport, then what ends up happening is they stop being physically active.
SPEAKER_01Happens a lot, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. Because you you associate that, oh man, I'm in shape or I'm only in shape when I'm when I'm playing when I'm playing sports.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and and then and then also then they get into a bad spot when later in life they realize like, man, I gotta take back my life, and then they go down. Because I do a lot of this with my clients. Um man, I used to be, I used to do this. I used to, I'm like, look, stop the negative talk. That ain't gonna help you. Yeah. So so it's like it's definitely doing it for the right reasons.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Now I now I have for myself, um, I don't know if we I've talked to you about it personally, but we, you know, my flexibility journey, you know, over the last couple of months, man, I um, you know, I've been stretching versus lifting so many weights. And so I was lifting weights five or six times a week, and I went down to four. And I focus on I actually stretch more than I actually lift weights now. And so, so hey, what surprised me is today at the camp, man, at the prospect camp. Shoot, I jumped up there and grabbed the rim at 42 years old, bro.
SPEAKER_01You better stretch tonight.
SPEAKER_04Oh, brother. Brother, brother, trust me, trust me. I am going to stretch as soon as we get through with this podcast. Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, as as you get older, it's a blessing. Um, but it's also just like, man, we can still do great things, just we gotta warm up. We gotta cool down now. Um, because what I've found here lately, if I don't warm up, something dumb happens. I'm like, yes. Man. I done strained this, man. I done strained that. I was like, yeah, yeah. I know better. I know better.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I I think I think when it comes to when it comes to fitness, man, especially, especially, I've been a big advocate of once you hit 40, man, listen, you that flexibility and mobility has to become a priority. It has to. Because I I feel I feel as if a lot of older people um have issues with being able to walk and stuff like that. Yeah. Um, because of their lack of flexibility. Because, you know, your Achilles start to tighten up a little bit more, which then trickles down to your calf, which then trickles down to your hamstring and goes over to your aging, you're aging backwards.
SPEAKER_01If you think about it, when you come into the world, you know, you're kind of like in a feeder position. If you look at older people, right? They're they're hunched as such. So we're aging backwards. And what what a key opponent to uh trying to reverse that is what you're doing right now, which I you're inspiring me to uh do what I need to do and stretch more. I'll call myself out there.
SPEAKER_04Listen, man, listen, listen, listen. It has been a life changer. It's been it's been a life changer. It's helped me. The three areas that stretching has benefited me. Um is one, even like my in my natural intensity, like I'm naturally a calmer individual now. Like I used to tell people, like, man, I'm just hyped. This is just me, but shoot, man. A lot of that being hype was the fact that shoot, I was tight.
SPEAKER_01Like, shoot. Maybe I need to stretch.
SPEAKER_04Hey, brother, brother man was tight, brother man was tight. Because brother man was tight, you know. Sure, brother man was tight in a lot of areas. So yeah, it's it's um the the second thing it's done is it's allowed me to um be more comfortable when I sleep. You know, um, that and that on top of drinking water. So me going back to um focusing on drinking water like I'm supposed to, you know, has allowed me to sleep, sleep a whole lot better. And um even just my natural posture. I mean, for me, I have a chiropractor, and so I check in with her once a month, and you know, even she, when she was adjusting me last time, you know, she was, oh dang, like, you flexible like you 25 again. I said, shoot, I feel like I feel like I'm 25 again. Yeah. I I see what you did there. I see what you did there. I I I I see what you did. You you did that on purpose.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I just want to let you know. I'm drinking the thing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you did it on purpose. It's cool though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You taking them top punches at me, putting that water up to your to your mouth.
SPEAKER_01Hey, look, you got the stretch, and I'm drinking the water, okay? I'm trying to we're trying to Okay, so we're gonna switch. We're gonna switch. Man.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we're gonna switch. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But but yeah, but but yeah, no, man, I I think um I think the ultimate thing when it comes to fitness, like I said, man, is you gotta keep it fun for the kids. So so with me and my kids, you know, sometimes they wake up in the morning while I'm stretching, and um, especially my young son, like, Daddy, I wanna I wanna do what you do. So we'll stretch together. You know.
SPEAKER_01Man, you're lucky. See, I can't I can't do that with Carter. Carter, uh, he sees an opportunity on stretching. He's gonna try and punch me. So um trying to what? He he he uh we're still working on some things. Oh okay. Carter sees as an opportunity to attack me. Um so we're working on it. We're we're working on it.
SPEAKER_04Now, now I'm not saying that they don't attack. They're gonna attack, but I'm like, come on, do it with me. And they're okay. No, no, no, do it with me. Yeah, no, I'm not, I'm gonna get attacked too. So yeah, that's that that comes with it, man. Them two to four year old love it.
SPEAKER_01Love it, love it, love it. Yeah, yeah, so and they're not gonna be that they're not gonna be that age forever. So exactly. Exactly. You know, it's enjoy enjoying the these uh parts of the journey.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. So but yeah, nah, man. Hey, listen, another another successful podcast, man. Had Nick Watson on today, you know, got to talk about player development as it relates to Australia and close it out with with some fitness, man, some fitness tips to help help people as far as along the journey and how to get kids more physically active in a healthy way and not, you know, and not be military. So another one, listen discover talk, hashtag we see you, hashtag over and out.
