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Accessing Better Health: StationMD Expands Services for People with IDD (Part 2)

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Getting quality healthcare that actually meets your needs can be a real challenge—especially for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities (IDD). In this Part 2 episode, we follow up on our 2024 interview with StationMD by bringing you the latest updates from their team.

Dr. Deven Unadkat, President and Chief Medical Officer, joins host Shari Cooper to share how StationMD has expanded its services to include mental health support, psychological testing, and on-call nurse coverage. You'll hear how this telehealth model is transforming care access and outcomes for people with IDD—while also saving money and reducing stress for families, providers, and public programs.

Host:
Shari Cooper, Ohio Developmental Disability Council Ambassador

Guest:
Dr. Deven Unadkat, President and Chief Medical Officer, StationMD

Key Topics

What Is StationMD?
A 24/7 telehealth platform built specifically for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

The Origin Story
How repeated ER visits inspired an emergency physician to co-found a more responsive, disability-centered model of care.

New Services
Expansion into telepsychiatry, psychological testing, and on-call nursing to better support individuals, families, and direct support professionals.

Ohio Medicaid Waiver Access
StationMD is now a covered service under the Ohio Medicaid waiver, making it easier than ever to access these supports at no out-of-pocket cost.

Systemic Barriers
Why most medical schools still don’t adequately prepare doctors to treat people with disabilities—and how that’s starting to shift.

Cultural Change in Healthcare
How disability-specific telehealth is building empathy and changing how hospitals treat patients with IDD.

Why This Matters

Access to healthcare shouldn't depend on your ability to navigate complicated systems. StationMD is removing barriers, reducing unnecessary ER visits, and helping people with IDD get care that respects their time, rights, and dignity.

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[Shari Cooper, host]
Hey everybody, it's your girl, Shari Cooper. We've got another fantastic episode for you. Today we are bringing you a podcast update based on an interview we did in 2024 with the incredible folks at StationMD.

If you're not familiar, StationMD is a telehealth platform that focuses on meeting the unique needs of people with intellectual and developmental disabilities, also known as IDD. This episode features Dr. Deven Unadkat, President and Chief Medical Officer of StationMD. We'll dive into the company's origin story, how it has grown over the past year, including the addition of mental health services, how it fills critical gaps in the medical field, helps save money for both individual and government programs, and how you or your loved one can access this life-changing care.

So let's get into it. Let's go, let's go, let's go. So, Dr. Unadkat, can you tell everybody who you are and what you do?

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
Wonderful. Hey Shari, thanks for having me on this podcast. It's a pleasure to be here.

So yeah, my name is Dr. Deven Unadkat, and I am an emergency physician, and I care for individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities. So my background for the last 20 years has been working in emergency departments, taking care of all sorts of people that walk in, traumas, and heart attacks, strokes, and the like. But about 12 years ago or so, I had the fortunate situation where I ran into multiple individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities using the emergency department, and I had the opportunity to speak to their caregivers and learn a lot from these individuals.

And over time, I started to develop an interest in caring for folks with intellectual and developmental disabilities. And myself and two of my partners started a company, an organization called StationMD, and StationMD is a telehealth service for individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities. And we serve them 24-7, 365 days a year, anytime there's a change in medical condition, or they need some advice, or their caregivers need some level of support from a clinician, a physician, we're there for them.

And we started this in 2016 and have grown significantly since then. And we have seen over, we support, how about this, we support 44,000 individuals throughout the country. And on a daily basis, we handle visits, about 150 visits to 160 visits a day.

So we're super fortunate to be able to participate in this type of care. In my role in the organization as a co-founder, but also as the chief medical officer, so I oversee all of our programs and our medical services. I oversee the quality.

I oversee all the clinical staff, and I build and supervise all the service lines that we provide the service for. So that's a little bit about me.

[Shari Cooper, host]
That's great. Thank you, Doctor. Doctor, is it okay if I call you Dr. Deven to make my life a whole lot easier?

(Shari and Dr. Deven laugh)

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
Absolutely, yes. Many of my patients call me Dr. Deven, and that's perfectly fine.

[Shari Cooper, host]
So Dr. Deven, my first question to you is, in January of 2024, we spoke to your colleague, Dr. Maulik Trivedi about Station MD. But can you refresh our memory and tell us about the company and what services it provides?

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
Oh, wonderful. Yeah, so like I was mentioning before, we're a telehealth company that focuses only on individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities. And our service is basically like a virtual urgent care for folks with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

And we're available for the people we support 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. So all holidays and weekends, 3 in the morning, because we know things occur, especially in individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities, especially as we age. Different things can occur in between doctor's appointments.

And many times, the folks that we support end up going to an emergency department or an urgent care, which can take hours on end, including transportation and wait times and all that. And really, that's not the service that our individuals really deserve. They should be able to get high quality, good care focused around their disability and focused on their acute issue at home, just like the rest of the population has access to.

And the neat part about our service is that all of our clinicians are acutely focused on the needs of individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities, the uniqueness of this particular population. We're all trained in understanding the different medical conditions that disproportionately impact individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities. And also the social situations that many of our folks are put in.

For example, having to call an ambulette to get a wheelchair into that ambulette maybe takes two or three hours to coordinate, get to the service, and then arranging transportation back. And that's a very specific thing for the IDD population that has to kind of figure all this stuff out just to go see a physician or any type of clinician when something unexpected occurs. It's a big challenge.

And we hope, and we think we're successful in doing this, we provide another avenue for access to this type of care. So that's our main service. That's the main thing that we do.

But we also recently have started to provide additional services that are not 24-7, that are basically scheduled services like our telepsychiatry service. So many individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities also have serious mental illness as well. Not all, but many have coexisting conditions.

And from our clients, when we were having conversations with them as we were doing our urgent care side, they actually said that they were having a really difficult time finding psychiatrists that wanted to help them with their serious mental illness and the individuals that they support with serious mental illness. So we started a telepsychiatry program in which we would take over that individual's care for the psychiatry piece all virtually and manage their medications, address any of the issues that are required. That's not a 24-7 service.

That's actually a scheduled Monday through Friday, 9 to 5 type of service. And we kind of take, you make an appointment and you see that individual online. The other piece that we recently added, which I'm excited to talk about, is the actual psychosocial and psychological testing piece for individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

Shari, as you probably know, when individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities need to obtain services, they need to go through processes, right, to get on Medicaid waivers, to get home and community-based services and whatnot. And part of those processes include getting a psychosocial, medical, and a psychological evaluation. Unfortunately, many of the folks that would qualify for services can't get those services because they just can't get those initial testing done, that initial testing done because of transportation issues, getting a physician or getting a psychologist availability, all of that.

So we've started to help provide that service as well in the state of Ohio via telehealth so it can be done at home. So those are just some of the exciting things that we're doing more recently, but really our 24-7 urgent care side has gained significant traction over the last 10 years. But over the last year, specifically in Ohio, we were fortunate enough to get on the Ohio Medicaid waiver.

So we are authorized by the waiver service to provide this service for anybody that's on the waiver program.

[Shari Cooper, host]
Well, Dr. Deven, this is great because, as you say, anything that, with medical, with people with disabilities, it's just a major pain trying to get through all the red tape to get something that you need. So the service you are providing is great. So thank you for that.

Thank you. Love to hear that. Thank you.

So I'm going to move on to my next question. In our last episode, Dr. Trivedi told us a personal story about when he recognized the need for specialized medical care for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. I wonder if you have a personal story of your own that you can share with us.

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
Definitely, Shari. I can share one for you. It may be similar to Dr. Trivedi's, but basically, I'd say 2014 or so, I was working in an emergency department. And this department was about a block away from a group home for individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities. And during my time there, on a daily basis, we'd see at least one of those individuals that are living in that group home come and visit us in the emergency department. And in the beginning, I was just like every other patient, just kind of moving through my day.

But after a while, I started to see a trend. And I started to see individuals from this home come with the same home supervisor or their DSP to the emergency department. And unfortunately, it would take many hours for this individual to be seen, because in the emergency department, we obviously triaged folks from most acute to least acute.

And many times they were triaged as least acute, because the issue really wasn't that big of a deal. But of course, for that individual and that caregiver, it was a big deal. So when eventually I kind of paused a bit, I remember walking by this individual and their caregiver about must have been 25 times throughout my shift before I actually got to see that person.

Every time I'd walk by, wave and say, I'm sorry. I'll be with you shortly. Come back.

I'll be with you shortly. And after the 25th time, I finally was able to get to her. And I took care of her.

It was something really small. She had stubbed her ankle on the side of her foot on her wheelchair. It was a little swollen.

We got an X-ray. Everything was fine. We sent her home.

Before she left, I kind of paused and asked the caregiver, the DSP who was with her, a simple question. I was like, you know, you guys come pretty frequently to the emergency department. I feel horrible that you kind of have to wait around for so long.

And most of the time I end up sending you guys home. Don't you have a doctor that's there that can kind of help you with this or a nurse that can kind of help you triage? Honestly, you know, in medical education, the world of disability is really not focused on at all.

So my knowledge of really the resources that are available for individuals with intellectual and developmental disability was zero. So I asked the DSP, I said, could you just ask the doctor that's there? And she laughed and she said, similar to what you just did, Shari, she laughed and she was like, no, there's no doctor there.

I was like, oh, there's no doctor at the home that comes and visits you at the home? No. How about a nurse?

Oh, yeah, nurse comes like every once every two weeks or so to kind of just make sure we're getting our meds. But otherwise, you know, it's just me. And then I asked her, OK, what's your training?

She's like, well, you know, I got a GED and I started working with this group home about four or five years ago. I love the people that I support. They give me some training.

You know, they tell me to do this, do that. But there are all these rules I have to follow and there are all these regulatory things that have to happen. So anytime something unplanned happens that's medically related, I have to actually get care for this individual.

And we try calling the patient's primary and usually they tell us either to go to the ER or we don't get a call back. And then I'm stuck and I have no other option except for coming to the emergency room. Then I was like, wait a second.

This is crazy. What is going on here? They said, well, what if what if we're able to pick up the phone and call me before you called the ambulance service, got the person here, figured out what to do with the other three people at the home, figured out who's going to give the other folks medications and give this person their medications?

What if you just called me and said, I have this problem. Should I come to the ER or not? And she said, if you give me your phone number, I would love to do that.

So it would save me so much time. She's like, but then I also need you to fill out these forms that say, you know, it's okay for us not to do anything or do whatever. So then I was like, okay, I think we got something here.

Maybe we could do something like that. And if it's going to save you that much headache and save this individual all this time, because the individual missed their entire day program, you know, and if this individual was to work, they would miss the entire day of work. If they were going to school, they would miss that.

If they like to play an instrument or whatever they love to do with their time, they wouldn't be able to do that because they're spending their time with me, watching me walk in front of them back and forth, back and forth, and then send them home at the end of the day. A few of us started talking like, what if we kind of developed a program for this group home that allowed individuals and their caregivers to call us and that we would triage them and say, you don't need to go or you do need to go. And then we started talking and we're like, this is probably like two beers in or something like that.

And we started talking, we started saying, well, what if we did it by video? Then we could actually really see them and really do a full exam and try to figure out what's going on. And what if we're able to prescribe medications for them while they're there?

And what if we're able to kind of, you know, order some blood work or urine tests that they needed to, or maybe an x-ray if they needed to, and they can get it done as an outpatient. Then what if we call them back a few days later to see how they were doing? And like all these thoughts started to come together.

And then we also at the same time saw, this was in New York, Medicaid was offering, had like an RFP out for like a small pilot program for innovation in health care. Like, how do you provide better care to folks that are Medicaid recipients without the traditional way of doing things? So we're like, wait, so we've got this idea.

Maybe there's some dollars here that can kind of fund it. It wasn't that big of a grant, but it was something. So we applied for that grant.

We got it. And then we started Station MD in two group homes, actually one ICF and one group home because we weren't really sure if we could really do this well in a group home. Maybe an ICF would be better because there was like a nurse always available and stuff like that.

This is really like the wild, wild west. It was like the frontier. We didn't really know what to expect.

So we said, let's try two different types of populations. And then very, very quickly, we started to see the benefits of this. Within two months, 90% of the people that called us, the calls that we got, we were able to manage at home, safely at home with follow up and making sure that they were still OK.

A few days later, people were really happy. The DSPs were super excited about this. And they were like, I think we got something.

You know, I think we got something. I think we can expand this out to other programs and places. And slowly, little by little, the service started to grow.

And at the same time, we started to say, OK, well, you know, I learned a lot about disabilities just from talking to that caregiver, you know, from that DSP. I'm sure there's a lot more out there. So then we started to do some homework and figuring out that there's a lot of information out there that we just did not know about the medical issues that surround individuals with IDD.

So we educated ourselves and then eventually developed a curriculum to train any new clinician that comes to our team. Because as we're growing, I mean, yes, it was myself and two of my partners, but we needed more people. And it can't just be the three of us, right?

But we didn't just want anybody to join us. So we created this curriculum. And that curriculum continues to grow literally every week.

There's something else I'm adding to it, creating, changing, whatever. And we train all of our clinicians because they're all great clinicians and they're all board certified. They've been doing this for many, many years.

But traditional medical school and postgraduate training does not really incorporate a lot about disability.

[Shari Cooper, host]
Well, Dr. Deven, that could be a whole other podcast.

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
That could, that could, that could (Dr. Deven and Shari laugh). Sorry, sorry, yeah, that could.

[Shari Cooper, host]
So I like it because you said 90% of people are doing better because of StationMD. Because I was going to ask you, do you have an idea of how many people you have kept out of the emergency room?

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
A number of people, I can't tell you the exact number of people, but I can tell you that that 90%, since 2016 till 2025, last quarter, we measure this, we were anywhere between 90 to 94% that were kept at home safely without having to go to the emergency department. And we were able to bridge them until they were able to get to their primary doctor, specialists or whatnot. Because we don't take over the care of that individual.

They still have their primary doctors, their specialist doctors, whoever they want to see, however they want to see. But sometimes you just can't get to them in time, right? So the default is I got to do something.

So I got to go to the emergency room. Well, now you have another option. You can call station MD instead.

We can maybe bridge you until you can go to your primary. And then your primary takes over. We can communicate that information to your primary care doctor or your specialist doctor, whoever you want us to.

And at least you're safe for that time frame until it takes for you to get to that doctor.

[Shari Cooper, host]
That is great. This is a great update. You mentioned Medicaid waiver.

How would the proposed budget cuts to Medicaid affect station MD and patients with IDD?

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
That's a very good question. I can't tell you for sure how it will impact station MD and the services that we provide to people with IDD, because everything's kind of up in the air right now. There's a lot going on at the federal level.

And eventually, it's going to filter down to the state level. But what I can tell you, though, is the service that we provide to individuals with intellectual development disabilities, to Medicaid beneficiaries, is actually not just a high-quality, much-needed, fill-in-the-gaps-of-service type of service. But it actually saves a lot of money.

So when you prevent somebody from going to an emergency department unnecessarily, the cost of going to an ED is very, very expensive. It costs Medicaid and Medicare a lot of money to pay for those visits. Instead of that, if 94%, 93% of the time, we can manage those individuals at home, we are actually saving the government millions of dollars.

Millions of dollars. Think about this, right? Every day, 150 people, 94% of those, let's just say 120 of those individuals, would have had an ER bill, but instead of that, have an outpatient bill.

And they're safely managed. So our service, honestly, is a cost savings to the government at the Medicaid level, and it would be a shame for, if there are any types of cuts at the state level, to cut this type of service out, because this is the type of service, the innovative type of service that actually saves people money, saves society, government, all of us dollars, and at the same time, fills a gap, and provides high quality care to folks that otherwise would not get it. And oh, by the way, it levels the playing field. People with disabilities don't have many options and access to care, and especially telehealth, because most folks can pull out their insurance card, on the back of the card, there's, hey, call this number for a nurse, call this number for a telehealth service.

If you're on the traditional Medicaid, you don't have that. We fill that gap. So there are a lot of benefits here.

I can't tell you for sure what's going to happen, but I think anybody who's smart enough to look at this a little closely will realize that this is a service that shouldn't be cut, if there are any cuts.

[Shari Cooper, host]
Right. Let's keep our fingers crossed and keep advocating.

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
Yes, that's very important. That's very important. Yeah, and podcasts like this help get the message out there, you know?

So thank you for doing this.

[Shari Cooper, host]
So, Dr. Deven, I can tell you're very passionate about Station MB, because you are really answering all the questions before I even ask you. And that's great! That really shows people how much you love StationMD.

So I'm going to get down to my next question, which is, as StationMD and telehealth services have grown, have you seen any cultural shifts in how medical professionals interact with people with disabilities?

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
That's a great question. So I think more and more as we progress and advance, I think more physicians are learning about this space, just understanding that there's a unique space out there, group of people that have unique medical needs. So I think I'm seeing that for sure.

And I'll tell you from personal experience, when we see individuals and we see them via telehealth, and we decide they do need to go to the hospital, like this is something you need to go to an emergency department for. We advise them to go to the emergency department, we hang up, and then we pick up the phone and call that emergency department. And then we have a conversation with the clinician on the other end, explaining to them what's happening and why we're sending somebody over to expect this person.

But also at that time, we're educating them that this is somebody who has autism. They have a really difficult time with pressure and touch. So maybe put them in a quieter area of the emergency department, if possible, you know, just be a little bit more sensitive to this person's needs.

And I think we'll achieve what we need to achieve. And if everything is good, send them on back. We're there for them to support them until they can go and see their primary doctors.

That piece of information is way more information than the emergency department has ever gotten before somebody with an intellectual disability shows up at the front door. Just that alone, I think, is changing the perception, changing how people view the IDD community, just because there's education, just because there's some degree of knowledge. There's a lot more to do, but I think that there's definitely some improvement.

And over the last 10 years, I've seen a shift to a little bit more compassionate, sympathetic, empathetic care for individuals with IDD. A more inclusive, holistic type of care for people with IDD.

[Shari Cooper, host]
So when doctors are trying to become a doctor, what kind of training do you get to actually serve people with disabilities?

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
Oye, okay. So the truth is, I could tell you what I got in medical school. So maybe I got like an hour of a lecture during a pediatric lecture saying that, hey, there are individuals that have this thing called autism.

It's like a spectrum. And it used to be called mental retardation, but now it's called intellectual disability. You know, treat them like anybody else.

They have the same issues as everybody else does, but you should know that there's such a thing. Like literally, that's what it was. That was the level of education that we got in medical school.

[Shari Cooper, host]
Was it taught by a person with a disability?

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
No, no, no, no, not at all. It was taught by a pediatrician, from what I can recall. I mean, this was a long time ago.

I think it was a pediatrician that really just gave that talk, because most developmental disabilities are in the pediatric age. They get diagnosed as a child. So that's why the pediatricians, developmental pediatricians specifically, really have that specialty.

But in the general medical school curriculum, now, of course, the developmental pediatrician knows a lot more about disabilities than the general doctor. But in general medical education, that's what I got. Though I will say, now that was like 20 years ago, maybe even more than that.

But now I think there's a little bit more. And that I've actually seen interest groups within the medical school classes forming around intellectual and developmental disabilities. So people who are interested in learning more get guest lecturers to come in.

And this is outside of the actual curriculum. And then your training as a physician is, yeah, you get your four years of medical school, but you also have another four years, at least, of postgraduate training in like a residency program. And again, there's very little IDD-focused attention there as well.

And that still kind of is the case. So there certainly needs to be more, you know, included in the undergraduate, you know, the medical school education, and definitely the postgraduate level. Because when you start to get the specialized folks, they get so specialized, you forget about populations like IDD.

[Shari Cooper, host]
It's my hope that there will be more training in the future. And the trainers will be people with disabilities.

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
Yes, well, I think that that would be a huge advance in medical education.

[Shari Cooper, host]
I'll put that on my wish list with a whole lot of other things.

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
Absolutely.

[Shari Cooper, host]
So I'm going to go on down, I'm going to open it up. So you can tell the listeners, what's next for StationMD.

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
Yeah, so I'll tell you a few things on what's in the pipeline. Like I was mentioning before, we have the telepsychiatry services, which we started. Those are going fantastic.

People are gobbling that up. Our spots are filling up very fast. So we're actually growing that program.

So that's great. We have the testing program with our psychologists in Ohio that are doing the psychosocial and the psychological testing. So people can qualify for services should they need that service.

And recently, we actually, for group homes and even some ICFs, we started an on-call nursing service. So really, the nurses that do support these group homes,

So really, the nurses that do support these group homes, they are overwhelmed, mainly because they have to be on call 24 hours a day, picking up the call, answering these calls for DSPs and guiding them through the process. So what we started was after 4pm, that nurse can hang up the phone and we have our nurses available to help guide the DSPs. So that nurse can sleep, can actually get rest and go back to see that individual the next day.

That person can get the weekends off, that person can get a holiday off, like Memorial Day we just had, can be off and our nurses can kind of take over and bridge until that nurse comes back refreshed. And that's going to help with, and we've already seen this, help with retention of nurses in the IDD space. That's a big issue.

We need nurses. We need to attract nurses to this space to help support our individuals. But nursing is very difficult in the IDD space.

And they're overwhelmed many times because they just have to always be available. So if we can help that, we'd like to. So we're working on building that program out.

That hasn't gone live in Ohio yet, but it will very shortly. It's live in New York and a few other states, but we're going to build that as well. So that's on the horizon.

And as of the beginning of this year, our urgent care services got on the Medicaid waiver program. So you may know, I think when Dr. Trivedi came on last time, he talked to you about the pilot that we were doing in Ohio. That pilot has now transformed into a Medicaid waiver service.

So now any individual that qualifies for the Medicaid waiver can sign up for our services through their SSA, through their support service administrator, sign up for that service, and they don't have to pay anything out of pocket. It's all covered by state Medicaid dollars. It comes out of their budget, but it certainly is a small price to pay.

It's like $2 a day to be a member of the Station MD club. I call it the club, but it's not really the club, but it's just to get access to our service, literally like $2 a day. And then at any time, 24 hours a day, that individual has some issue that goes on, they can call us and we can take care of them.

So a lot of stuff happening, a lot of cool things happening.

[Shari Cooper, host]
Dr. Deven, I think I'll be joining the club a little bit after we get off this podcast. Thank you.

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
Oh, that's awesome. I would love for you to be part of the club.

[Shari Cooper, host]
Yeah, I want to be a part of this club. So my last question for you is, for listeners who are interested in Station MD services, how can they reach you?

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
That's perfect. So you should certainly go and talk to your SSA, your supports coordinator, administrator. They would have more information as well.

But you can go to our website, stationmd.com, www.stationmd.com. You'll learn a lot about us there, and there's a contact us button. You just click on that, give us your information, and a member of our team will reach out and help you sign up for the service.

Also, I think on the podcast in the notes, put in information on how to reach our team. We have members of our team in Ohio come to you and help you sign up for this service, work with your provider agency to help you get access to the service too. So a lot of ways to actually reach out and get access.

[Shari Cooper, host]
Dr. David, this has been a wonderful conversation. I so thank you for the great updates. They have been wonderful.

[Dr. Deven Unadkat, guest]
Well, thanks so much, Shari. I really appreciate you having me on this podcast. And if you need some more information, reach out to our website, or feel free to reach out to me.

I'd love to, you know, answer any of your questions.

[Shari Cooper, host]
Will do! 

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