In this conversation, Graeme and Joey sit down with Rev. Louise Wernich to talk about business strategy and leadership helping churches. Pastors have become increasingly suspicious of business practices distorting the purpose of the church, but Louise addresses how we can go too far in the other direction.

Rev. Louise Wernich is an ordained minister in the Methodist Church of South Africa and has recently completed in MBA in New Zealand. She works at Laidlaw College within the post-graduate theology programmes. She has considerable experience leading churches of all size, and she has recently come to appreciate the importance of business leadership for the church.

00:00 teaser / intro

02:12 the tension between church / business leadership

10:39 who is your church competing with?

19:47 PESTEL and SWOT strategic framworks

27:20 what to do when a ministry is dying

31:27 the purpose of the church

37:20 migrant churches navigating NZ culture

48:12 migrant churches should do this ...

56:12 why church strategy matters

58:52 AI us causing pause / disruption within people

01:01:02 Church staff aren't family

Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington.

The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.