WEBVTT 00:00:00.101 --> 00:00:03.286 Lift your Bibles up and wave them around, make Jesus glad, the devil mad. 00:00:03.286 --> 00:00:05.105 We've been standing a while. 00:00:05.105 --> 00:00:09.904 Let's say this together say, heavenly Father, I am thirsty for more. 00:00:09.904 --> 00:00:31.091 And so, lord, I have my spiritual antenna up, my receiver is turned on and I'm reaching out to you tonight to receive, to receive, to receive revelation, knowledge that will build my faith in Jesus' name. 00:00:31.091 --> 00:00:33.060 First Corinthians, chapter two. 00:00:33.360 --> 00:00:35.067 I've been preaching out of Corinthians a lot. 00:00:35.067 --> 00:00:43.551 They were kind of a church like ours, except maybe a little bit more carnal, I would say. 00:00:43.551 --> 00:00:53.679 But when I say they were like us, they were spirit filled and they had the gifts of the spirit. 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:55.345 They came behind and no good gift. 00:00:55.345 --> 00:01:35.206 And so here in first Corinthians, chapter two, paul is writing to his church and he said I, an, I, brethren, when I came to you came not with the excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God, for I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified, and I was with you in weakness and in fear and in much trembling, and my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, my margin says persuasable. 00:01:35.206 --> 00:01:43.034 It was not an enticing or persuasable words of man's wisdom. 00:01:43.034 --> 00:02:00.939 But my speech and my preaching was in demonstration of the spirit and of power, so that your faith should not stand or be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God. 00:02:00.939 --> 00:02:06.319 And so I just wanted to share a message entitled demonstration of the spirit. 00:02:06.620 --> 00:02:25.806 The demonstration of the spirit, it's only used one time in the Bible, so only place you'll find the word demonstration and it's the Greek word and it's the Greek word apodexus, and it's from a root that means to show off. 00:02:25.806 --> 00:02:38.289 So literally his preaching and his speech was in demonstration or showings off of the Holy Ghost. 00:02:38.289 --> 00:02:46.949 I mean, when he spoke and when he preached he didn't show off his excellent knowledge of this world. 00:02:46.949 --> 00:02:52.028 I mean, listen, this man sat at the feet of Gimeliel, he was a Pharisee of Pharisees. 00:02:52.028 --> 00:02:54.426 He knew the Bible inside and out. 00:02:54.426 --> 00:02:57.889 He knew the law, he knew the Bible. 00:02:57.889 --> 00:03:02.429 He was a well-educated man, very powerful orator. 00:03:02.429 --> 00:03:10.711 I mean he had to be quite an orator to haul Christians off to prison and jail and death. 00:03:10.711 --> 00:03:13.989 I mean he was a prosecutor. 00:03:13.989 --> 00:03:19.319 You don't have any, you know, you can't have a dumb prosecutor. 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:22.471 Only Biden can put in dumb prosecutor. 00:03:22.471 --> 00:03:32.532 Anyway, I'm getting off my subject there Apodexus, showings off of the spirit. 00:03:32.532 --> 00:03:38.219 And so he said you know, it's the only place in the whole Bible it's used. 00:03:39.284 --> 00:03:44.768 And yet demonstration has a major part in the New Testament. 00:03:44.768 --> 00:03:49.162 I mean, you read the book of Acts's demonstration, left and right. 00:03:49.162 --> 00:03:51.068 You read all of Paul's letters. 00:03:51.068 --> 00:03:52.104 It's demonstration. 00:03:52.104 --> 00:04:02.484 And if you took the demonstration out of the Bible you wouldn't have much more than just a debate point with no evidence. 00:04:02.484 --> 00:04:04.305 The evidence is in the demonstration. 00:04:04.305 --> 00:04:07.889 The evidence is God's alive and he's doing this. 00:04:07.889 --> 00:04:10.804 Glory to God. 00:04:12.103 --> 00:04:15.651 So everybody say demonstration. 00:04:15.651 --> 00:04:18.225 I like to break it down. 00:04:18.225 --> 00:04:22.745 It says demonstrated Demons are in dire straits. 00:04:22.745 --> 00:04:39.451 In other words, when there's demonstration and the demonstration is proof that God is present and it brings transformation for believers and it brings conviction of sin to the lost. 00:04:39.451 --> 00:04:42.285 When the lost show up in church there ought to be demonstration. 00:04:42.285 --> 00:04:45.483 Because when there's demonstration they realize you know God is real. 00:04:45.483 --> 00:04:47.987 Only God could do this right here. 00:04:47.987 --> 00:04:49.023 And they just make a. 00:04:49.023 --> 00:04:51.470 They make a, it's revelation. 00:04:51.470 --> 00:05:03.228 It comes dense, it comes before they can even build up their walls and all their arguments against it Fancy preaching, oratory homiletics. 00:05:05.579 --> 00:05:07.045 I call it fluff and bluster. 00:05:07.045 --> 00:05:13.509 Kind of reminds you of a cartoon series fluff and bluster, the adventures of fluff and bluster. 00:05:13.509 --> 00:05:19.163 It's about what it is cartoons, it has no power. 00:05:19.163 --> 00:05:28.968 It'll attract a following, it'll attract a crowd, but it won't heal people, it won't get people saved, it will not get people delivered. 00:05:28.968 --> 00:05:31.802 It just puffs up the. 00:05:31.802 --> 00:05:33.687 You know. 00:05:33.687 --> 00:05:36.706 You get excited about it or whatever, but you don't grow any. 00:05:36.706 --> 00:05:42.504 But the word and the spirit brings growth and it glorifies God, hallelujah. 00:05:42.504 --> 00:05:44.209 That's what we're here to do Glorify God. 00:05:44.209 --> 00:05:44.870 We're not our own. 00:05:44.870 --> 00:05:46.345 We've been bought with a price. 00:05:46.345 --> 00:05:47.564 Therefore, glorify God. 00:05:47.564 --> 00:05:49.786 That's the whole point of our existence. 00:05:49.786 --> 00:05:50.608 To glorify God. 00:05:50.608 --> 00:05:56.726 The church should be busy glorifying God, and demonstration is the way it happens. 00:05:56.726 --> 00:06:01.204 That's why I'm preaching this, because I know I found out a long time ago the more you preach something, the more you have it. 00:06:01.204 --> 00:06:05.009 We've had our share of demonstration, but I want more. 00:06:05.009 --> 00:06:06.987 In fact, I want more and more demonstration. 00:06:06.987 --> 00:06:09.824 How many of you agree with me? 00:06:09.824 --> 00:06:16.845 You want more demonstration, hallelujah, hold your place there. 00:06:16.845 --> 00:06:20.290 And let's go back over here to 2 Corinthians 12. 00:06:24.139 --> 00:06:24.944 He wrote two letters. 00:06:24.944 --> 00:06:29.444 He loved them, he had a heart for them. 00:06:29.444 --> 00:06:32.709 He was there in the beginning. 00:06:32.709 --> 00:06:45.709 He was the reason many of them were converted out of the occult witchcraft, all kinds of things that they were involved with, the worship of false gods. 00:06:45.709 --> 00:06:49.889 Second, corinthians 12, verse 12. 00:06:49.889 --> 00:06:52.583 And he says this. 00:06:52.583 --> 00:06:55.115 He said to the same church in the second letter. 00:06:55.115 --> 00:07:02.639 He said truly, the signs of an apostle were wrought among you, and first of all, in all patience. 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:07.259 He put patience up there first and he didn't just spend a week there. 00:07:07.259 --> 00:07:09.779 He didn't just spend a month there. 00:07:09.779 --> 00:07:15.266 He spent considerable time planting that church and setting it in order before he left. 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:18.470 Apostles are sent to a region. 00:07:18.470 --> 00:07:31.533 They many times have to do the work of the pastor and there's an anointing on them to do this, to just create a church and carve it out of the wilderness. 00:07:31.533 --> 00:07:34.119 It'd be like our pioneers. 00:07:34.119 --> 00:07:37.646 The work of the apostles is like pioneering, it's like trailblazing. 00:07:37.646 --> 00:07:44.725 You're going into a place that is filled with demons, filled with all kinds of occult and everything else, and you're anointing on you. 00:07:44.725 --> 00:07:48.668 You get in there and you start preaching with demonstration. 00:07:48.668 --> 00:07:50.584 You better have some patience. 00:07:50.584 --> 00:07:52.279 You better have some patience. 00:07:53.322 --> 00:08:08.240 He said you know, for the signs of an apostle, the proof of an apostle, were wrought among you in all patience and in signs and wonders, and in mighty deeds. 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:14.807 Everybody say mighty deeds, mighty deeds. 00:08:14.807 --> 00:08:15.814 What in the world is he talking about? 00:08:15.814 --> 00:08:18.858 Well, how about shaking a viper off of your hand into the fire. 00:08:18.858 --> 00:08:20.238 That's a mighty deed. 00:08:20.238 --> 00:08:23.940 Everybody's watching him thinking, oh, he's gonna die now. 00:08:23.940 --> 00:08:36.306 They were expecting him to swell up and fall down dead and then, when he didn't, they changed their mind just like that and started worship him as a God and they thought he was a God, just like that. 00:08:36.306 --> 00:08:45.207 But sometimes you know, those mighty deeds is what it takes Glory to God. 00:08:45.207 --> 00:08:55.235 So you know we can help or hinder demonstration. 00:08:57.835 --> 00:09:02.480 It's not always up to the preacher, it's not up just to the preacher. 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:03.701 I mean preacher's involved. 00:09:03.701 --> 00:09:07.605 I mean I've gotta yield myself. 00:09:07.605 --> 00:09:13.563 I've gotta be what I've been preaching on Sunday mornings to cooperate with the Holy Ghost. 00:09:13.563 --> 00:09:20.863 And I like to think that over almost 30 years I've learned a few things about how to cooperate. 00:09:20.863 --> 00:09:24.120 I've learned some things that I can do and some things that it's better off not doing. 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:32.721 You learn by experience, sometimes, hopefully, otherwise you're doomed to repeat failure. 00:09:36.215 --> 00:09:39.620 But we can help or hinder the demonstration here in the congregation. 00:09:39.620 --> 00:09:43.583 I mean it's not all up to the preacher, it's not even all up to the worship team. 00:09:43.583 --> 00:09:48.320 You know the worship team can select really good songs with redemptive truth. 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:55.943 It helps to have songs with redemptive truth that magnify God and talk about him and worship should be to God, not about him. 00:09:55.943 --> 00:09:56.918 It ought to be to God. 00:09:56.918 --> 00:10:13.485 Praise is about God, worship is to God and when you get that straight now a lot of churches don't even know that, especially now we've got such a mix up of all these fancy outfits that are produced in Christian music and, frankly, a lot of the words are terrible words. 00:10:14.417 --> 00:10:17.004 They're not filled with redemptive truth. 00:10:17.004 --> 00:10:18.400 We have to change the words. 00:10:18.400 --> 00:10:23.361 If we like the song and the way it sounds, we'll we just taking change the words. 00:10:23.361 --> 00:10:25.940 I don't care if they like it or not. 00:10:25.940 --> 00:10:28.278 It's our church. 00:10:28.278 --> 00:10:29.221 We do what we want. 00:10:29.221 --> 00:10:32.722 We pay them money for their unbelief. 00:10:32.722 --> 00:10:42.942 They got a great sound, but a lot of the words are weak and a lot of the words we've noticed are just about God and they try to pass it off as worship. 00:10:42.942 --> 00:10:43.503 Well, guess what? 00:10:43.503 --> 00:10:44.919 That doesn't work. 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:46.453 You've got to talk to God. 00:10:46.453 --> 00:10:48.182 Your worship is going to him. 00:10:49.514 --> 00:10:51.042 I'm talking about demonstration right now. 00:10:51.042 --> 00:10:52.058 What can help and hinder? 00:10:52.058 --> 00:10:54.562 So, yeah, the worship team is kind of a key. 00:10:54.562 --> 00:10:56.020 They've got to sing the right music. 00:10:56.020 --> 00:10:57.782 They got to practice. 00:10:57.782 --> 00:10:59.120 They've got to bring an annoying team. 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:02.000 They always do, but it doesn't just happen just to snap a finger. 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:03.059 They prepare themselves. 00:11:03.059 --> 00:11:09.691 So but then you, you're sitting in the congregation. 00:11:09.691 --> 00:11:18.966 You know you can either help or you can hinder the demonstration of the spirit. 00:11:18.966 --> 00:11:23.341 It depends on how we respond. 00:11:23.341 --> 00:11:29.604 Everybody say respond, so will you respond? 00:11:29.604 --> 00:11:33.702 And are there where you respond means are you going to yield to that flow. 00:11:33.702 --> 00:11:41.700 Will you going to yield to that flow or will you resist? 00:11:41.700 --> 00:11:45.495 Will you stay in the comfort zone? 00:11:45.495 --> 00:11:47.495 Well, you know, I'm not used to lifting my hands. 00:11:47.495 --> 00:11:48.379 We'll get used to it. 00:11:49.336 --> 00:11:54.561 The Bible says lifting up holy hands without wrath and doubting Hebrews. 00:11:54.561 --> 00:11:57.708 It was basically standard procedure for the Jews. 00:11:57.708 --> 00:12:02.461 My goodness, we've got a better covenant, found upon better promises, that the Jews can lift their hands to God. 00:12:02.461 --> 00:12:05.745 How much more to believers need to lift their hands and worship Him. 00:12:05.745 --> 00:12:10.364 Lifting your hands is a universal sign of surrender. 00:12:10.364 --> 00:12:19.961 They understand that in Afghanistan they, you know, wherever you're at, when you lift your hands you're saying I give up. 00:12:22.355 --> 00:12:31.144 So sometimes people just they come out of different hangups and they're afraid to draw attention to themselves. 00:12:31.144 --> 00:12:34.214 But you've got to yield. 00:12:34.214 --> 00:12:40.302 Let's cooperate with the Holy Ghost and with the demonstration of the Spirit. 00:12:40.302 --> 00:12:45.582 Now there's two kinds of demonstration. 00:12:45.582 --> 00:12:48.884 I really prefer the word manifestation. 00:12:48.884 --> 00:13:01.995 Demonstration, I mean, you know, I know it's in the Greek and it's here, but really manifestation, we're after the manifestation of the Spirit and there's two kinds. 00:13:01.995 --> 00:13:16.942 There's the spiritual manifestations, which are tongues and interpretation, prophecy, healing, gifts of Spirit, word of knowledge, word of wisdom, all the nine gifts of the Spirit is part of the spiritual demonstration. 00:13:16.942 --> 00:13:20.162 But then there's a physical demonstration. 00:13:20.162 --> 00:13:22.465 Everybody say physical. 00:13:25.076 --> 00:13:35.863 You know, I've studied revivals and I've read several books on the Azusa Street revival and the miracles that came along with Azusa Street. 00:13:35.863 --> 00:13:46.109 That was at the turn of the century In Los Angeles, california, and there's still a street sign, azusa Street, but there's no street. 00:13:46.109 --> 00:13:50.404 They redeveloped it and it's all gone. 00:13:50.404 --> 00:13:51.918 Now what happened there? 00:13:51.918 --> 00:13:53.899 Just an old, ramshackle building. 00:13:53.899 --> 00:14:04.863 People that just were thirsty and hungry and desperate for revival, and a group of them prayed and prayed and prayed and God sent them a black preacher. 00:14:04.863 --> 00:14:17.898 He had started here in Houston but because of racial hatred here, discrimination, segregation, they wouldn't let him inside the church. 00:14:17.898 --> 00:14:26.480 He was one of the first to receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost, with evidence of speaking in other tongues. 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:34.546 So the Holy Ghost moves him to where they're praying for revival. 00:14:34.955 --> 00:14:38.163 In Los Angeles there were a little bit more open-minded. 00:14:38.163 --> 00:14:41.500 He was so humble that he sat on the platform of this. 00:14:41.500 --> 00:14:45.707 You know just a crummy old building, wasn't anything fancy? 00:14:45.707 --> 00:14:50.321 Well, no gold leaf in there. 00:14:50.321 --> 00:14:56.129 You know old wood floors and pews. 00:14:56.129 --> 00:15:06.605 He'd sit up on the platform with a paper sack over his head because he didn't want anybody to see him Cut the eyeballs out and he wouldn't say anything. 00:15:06.605 --> 00:15:07.977 He'd just sit up there and he would just. 00:15:07.977 --> 00:15:09.341 He would just there. 00:15:10.835 --> 00:15:11.840 They'd sing a couple of songs. 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:13.541 There was all coming from the congregation. 00:15:13.541 --> 00:15:15.099 They'd sing a few songs. 00:15:15.099 --> 00:15:18.361 The next thing, you know, the whole place would fill with a glory cloud. 00:15:18.361 --> 00:15:23.682 It was so thick that the children they didn't have children in church. 00:15:23.682 --> 00:15:26.139 The kids played in the glory. 00:15:26.139 --> 00:15:30.663 They'd play, hide and seek under the pews and hide in the glory cloud. 00:15:33.075 --> 00:15:35.341 That's how upset the Holy Ghost was with kids. 00:15:35.341 --> 00:15:39.041 We think they've got to be cordoned off. 00:15:39.041 --> 00:15:40.642 Well, I'm glad for children in church. 00:15:40.642 --> 00:15:42.339 I think we ought to teach kids. 00:15:42.339 --> 00:15:46.099 You know about God at their level, but you know what it's good when they're in here. 00:15:46.099 --> 00:15:52.778 They ought to be around what we have Some, and we do have that. 00:15:54.655 --> 00:15:58.846 But I mean, they had the most amazing miracles and he never did anything. 00:15:58.846 --> 00:16:07.298 He just sat up on the platform and he never took that sack off of his head, but it was he had. 00:16:07.298 --> 00:16:09.625 He had to be there. 00:16:09.625 --> 00:16:11.822 He had to be the director of you. 00:16:11.822 --> 00:16:17.477 There was anointing on his life that had to be present for the Holy Ghost to be there, otherwise it's a mob rule. 00:16:17.477 --> 00:16:21.356 The Holy Ghost doesn't. 00:16:21.356 --> 00:16:22.278 You know they don't. 00:16:22.278 --> 00:16:24.202 The Holy Ghost doesn't work with mobs. 00:16:24.202 --> 00:16:39.676 And so one night, of course, they had wheelchairs hanging up on the on them, that crutches, wheelchairs, all kinds of implements that people were healed from didn't need any longer. 00:16:39.676 --> 00:16:52.860 The power of God was so strong that at the train station 14 miles away, the Holy Ghost fell and people fell out on the high on the sidewalk trying to catch the train at rush hour and they were all laying on the concrete. 00:16:52.860 --> 00:16:57.105 It traveled, it traveled. 00:16:57.105 --> 00:16:59.261 Oh, come on, lift your hands right now. 00:16:59.261 --> 00:17:03.239 Talk about demonstration, boy. 00:17:03.239 --> 00:17:05.385 We need demonstration like that right now. 00:17:05.385 --> 00:17:06.156 We need it. 00:17:06.156 --> 00:17:09.960 I'm not willing to do without it if it's available. 00:17:14.315 --> 00:17:15.324 So one guy came in. 00:17:15.324 --> 00:17:32.085 He'd had a leg amputated, he had a wooden leg, and he told, one of the people came over and he was sitting, you know, in the pew, and they had teams that were going around, actually individuals going around praying for people. 00:17:32.085 --> 00:17:34.922 Brother, what do you need? 00:17:34.922 --> 00:17:36.493 I need a, I need a new leg. 00:17:36.493 --> 00:17:37.980 He said well, you don't have any faith. 00:17:37.980 --> 00:17:39.520 You got to take that wooden leg off. 00:17:39.520 --> 00:17:42.262 How do you expect God to give you a leg when you're walking around the wooden? 00:17:42.262 --> 00:17:44.008 One Real strength. 00:17:44.008 --> 00:17:52.423 He's unstrapped it and pulled it off, you know, and he's sitting there and God just went feet, toes and everything. 00:17:52.423 --> 00:17:53.656 He walked out. 00:17:53.656 --> 00:17:59.703 He'd had a leg amputated and the Holy Ghost replaced it. 00:17:59.703 --> 00:18:21.557 Oh, how do you do, when you let go back to the doctor's office where they have that x-ray Revivals, bring back what is waned and what had waned in that time was the baptism of the Holy Ghost. 00:18:23.035 --> 00:18:24.458 It was around in the book of Acts. 00:18:24.458 --> 00:18:29.989 But over the period of time, you know, we had all kind of revivals. 00:18:29.989 --> 00:18:34.665 You know we had a revival right before the civil war in America. 00:18:34.665 --> 00:18:37.435 We had revivals, the Welsh revival we had. 00:18:37.435 --> 00:18:40.526 There were all kinds of revivals all through history. 00:18:40.595 --> 00:18:43.143 You had the Lutheran revival. 00:18:43.143 --> 00:18:45.996 That was a big deal to have Protestants, you know. 00:18:45.996 --> 00:18:47.401 Yeah, that was a Catholic priest. 00:18:47.401 --> 00:18:57.385 Martin Luther was a Catholic priest who basically rebelled against the pope and the hierarchy of indulgences for sale. 00:18:57.385 --> 00:19:13.105 You could buy indulgences and he's the one that nailed the accusation to the cathedral in weems, to the front door and said there's salvation through, by grace, through faith alone, not by works. 00:19:13.105 --> 00:19:18.815 And of course the Roman church had obliterated itself. 00:19:18.815 --> 00:19:29.907 I mean, the Roman church and the church of England, both had just gone south on salvation by works and being, you know, getting your holiness through all the things that you do yourself. 00:19:29.907 --> 00:19:33.337 No, no, it's not by that, lest any man should boast. 00:19:33.337 --> 00:19:41.826 So that was a revival of faith through grace, or grace through faith, rather. 00:19:43.055 --> 00:19:47.200 And then you had the Pentecostal, which was a major one, getting the baptism of the Holy Ghost back on the earth. 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:56.461 But you know, just wasn't very long till Pentecostal churches built fences around the revelation and there was strife and division and you had, you know, this one and that one, oregon. 00:19:56.461 --> 00:19:57.084 That's what happens. 00:19:57.084 --> 00:20:07.805 So revivals are true, but then man takes over and wants to build a fence around it and kind of preserve it instead of going on with God, instead of saying, hey, god, what's next? 00:20:07.805 --> 00:20:11.219 I'm telling you there's another one coming. 00:20:14.218 --> 00:20:16.846 And of course, in the 40s and 50s, the healing revival. 00:20:16.846 --> 00:20:25.981 The Pentecostal churches wouldn't have people like oil Roberts Pentecostal holiness is where his background was and they didn't want him because they didn't agree with his doctrine. 00:20:25.981 --> 00:20:34.383 So he had a 10,000 seat tent, jack Co had another 10,000 seat tent. 00:20:34.383 --> 00:20:37.544 Other tents were five, six, 7,000 seats. 00:20:37.544 --> 00:20:45.628 They went all across the country holding their own meetings and people were healed and healed, and healed. 00:20:45.628 --> 00:20:47.239 They had the most dramatic miracles. 00:20:47.239 --> 00:20:51.263 But the negative of that is it wasn't in the local church. 00:20:51.263 --> 00:20:58.023 And so when people, when the meeting, left town and went to the next town, well then there were the people went back to the same dead church. 00:20:58.023 --> 00:21:07.057 It didn't have any demonstration of the spirit, didn't have any revelation of faith and many times they'd lose their healing. 00:21:07.057 --> 00:21:07.538 But it was a. 00:21:07.538 --> 00:21:12.897 It was an absolute revival of healing in the church. 00:21:18.172 --> 00:21:20.400 In the 60s you had the charismatic revival. 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:27.737 There was a mighty revival in the denominational world, the Presbyterians, the Church of Christ. 00:21:27.737 --> 00:21:30.919 God didn't leave any of the major denominations out. 00:21:30.919 --> 00:21:35.314 The Holy Ghost went in every one of them and he got a harvest. 00:21:35.314 --> 00:21:42.538 And most of the people that got the Holy Ghost were persecuted enough to where they had to come out because the hierarchy wouldn't accept it. 00:21:42.538 --> 00:21:49.397 But God got a harvest of hungry and thirsty people by the demonstration of the Spirit. 00:21:49.397 --> 00:21:51.215 Glory to God. 00:21:54.549 --> 00:21:56.277 I was an altar boy during those years. 00:21:56.277 --> 00:21:59.535 In Pope John the 23rd. 00:21:59.535 --> 00:22:09.335 I remember him saying his time for the Catholic Church to raise the windows and let the wind of the Spirit blow through the church, blow through the Catholic Church. 00:22:09.335 --> 00:22:13.096 And that's when they turned the altar around. 00:22:13.096 --> 00:22:14.375 You know, I grew up with the altar. 00:22:14.375 --> 00:22:39.142 The priest was standing here like this with his back saying the Mass, you know, having all the host and all that, and you lift the host up, and so one thing they did after I don't know 1800 years is they turned the altar around and it was facing and they got rid of the Latin Mass and had your English or whatever your native tongue was. 00:22:39.142 --> 00:22:39.550 Boy. 00:22:39.550 --> 00:22:48.026 A lot of people got mad at that because they changed Well, as the Holy God was trying to get them out of their dead religion. 00:22:48.026 --> 00:22:53.782 Thank God the Holy, there's a lot of charismatic Catholics even today. 00:22:53.782 --> 00:22:57.821 I hope they don't pray in tongues to Mary like some of them do. 00:23:01.833 --> 00:23:07.644 In the seven, as you had the teaching revival See the Bible teacher. 00:23:07.644 --> 00:23:11.148 There's five, five full ministers apostle, prophet, panchist, pastor, teacher. 00:23:11.148 --> 00:23:20.866 So the teacher kind of minimized most of the people that were pastors and preachers. 00:23:20.866 --> 00:23:21.289 They were preachers. 00:23:21.289 --> 00:23:25.650 They would preach real loud stem, winder, spit and cotton. 00:23:25.650 --> 00:23:28.819 That was the style teaching and nobody taught. 00:23:28.819 --> 00:23:30.786 Well, people needed teaching. 00:23:30.786 --> 00:23:34.809 When Brother Hagin got his orders from God, he said go and teach my people faith. 00:23:34.809 --> 00:23:37.298 He was a preacher, he had to become a teacher. 00:23:37.298 --> 00:23:47.190 And so in the seven, as you had a revival of teaching and you had these teaching centers, they got rid of the name of church and they just became a center, faith faith center. 00:23:47.190 --> 00:23:52.190 You know, holy Ghost Center church kind of went down the tubes. 00:23:52.190 --> 00:23:53.169 I don't, I don't agree with that. 00:23:53.169 --> 00:23:55.075 I believe in the local church. 00:23:55.075 --> 00:23:57.320 But yet you had teaching. 00:23:58.232 --> 00:24:01.528 In the eighties, god had a revival of the prophetic. 00:24:01.528 --> 00:24:06.750 Prophets became rising up and you began to see and note profits. 00:24:06.750 --> 00:24:10.786 They've always been there, but people didn't know what to call them. 00:24:10.786 --> 00:24:11.230 They're just a pastor. 00:24:11.230 --> 00:24:13.549 Well, no, they're not a pastor, they're a prophet. 00:24:13.549 --> 00:24:14.196 There's an office. 00:24:14.196 --> 00:24:17.500 And so that revelation came forward. 00:24:17.410 --> 00:24:19.817 There was a lot of teaching on the prophetic. 00:24:19.817 --> 00:24:22.990 Yeah, you had false teachers and you had false prophets too. 00:24:22.990 --> 00:24:26.823 You had pretenders, that's true, but you'd still had the real. 00:24:26.823 --> 00:24:33.470 And then in the nineties you had the rise of the apostolic and the same with that you had false apostles. 00:24:33.470 --> 00:24:41.557 You had people that just you know were dreamers, you know they're just. 00:24:41.557 --> 00:24:46.519 When you had non denominations and you didn't have connections, you didn't have fathers in the faith. 00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:51.557 You just had all these people exploding out here and calling themselves whatever they wanted to call themselves. 00:24:51.557 --> 00:24:55.636 So it gave rise to a lot of error and gave rise to a lot of hurt people. 00:24:55.636 --> 00:25:00.881 But it was still a revival that God sent by his Holy Spirit. 00:25:00.881 --> 00:25:05.902 And that brings me then to a more recent one. 00:25:05.902 --> 00:25:12.012 In the nineties we had the physical manifestation started going Like Holy Laughter. 00:25:12.012 --> 00:25:13.479 Anybody ever heard of Holy Laughter? 00:25:13.479 --> 00:25:18.873 We had a smattering of it at Lakewood in the eighties, in the old building. 00:25:18.873 --> 00:25:19.134 You know. 00:25:19.154 --> 00:25:24.718 Every now and then you'd have a service and it would just be you know one of those services and just you know. 00:25:24.718 --> 00:25:27.873 You'd hear a little of it and I'd look around, try to see who it was. 00:25:27.873 --> 00:25:31.896 And it didn't last very long because not a lot of people were involved in it. 00:25:31.896 --> 00:25:37.381 But I knew it was in the Bible and I knew it was Holy Ghost. 00:25:37.381 --> 00:25:49.077 And so in 1988, you know, we were Gladys and I were busy with we'd worked on a world convention all week and we were real tired. 00:25:49.077 --> 00:25:52.359 We got through it on Friday and we went home on Saturday. 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:54.457 We were both just worn out. 00:25:54.457 --> 00:26:02.273 We'd stayed in a hotel closer to Lakewood so we could go back and forth and do our jobs in every service. 00:26:03.890 --> 00:26:37.554 And a good friend of ours had started her ministry and she had a meeting in a place in the Greens Point like 500 people I would seat about 500 people we just felt like we wanted to go and support her, let her know we loved her and she was a friend of ours, and so we went and we sat over on the side, kind of like over here on the front row, and it's a little bigger area than this one Well, I guess about the same size, more chairs, about 500 chairs, and it had about half full. 00:26:37.554 --> 00:26:41.516 It's a pretty good crowd for her and she wasn't preaching that day. 00:26:41.516 --> 00:26:44.593 Another guy that I didn't know was preaching turned out later on. 00:26:44.593 --> 00:26:48.592 I knew him and he's a prophet but I didn't know that. 00:26:48.592 --> 00:26:50.378 Then I just heard him share. 00:26:50.378 --> 00:27:03.559 You know he was preaching and we were sitting over there and he got through preaching and he had an altar call and he said I want everybody that's just really torn, worn out and you're tired and fatigued. 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:04.352 I just want to. 00:27:04.692 --> 00:27:06.830 I believe there's a refreshing spirit in here. 00:27:06.830 --> 00:27:07.654 I want you to come up. 00:27:07.654 --> 00:27:09.596 Well, glad it's not never go up for prayer. 00:27:09.596 --> 00:27:11.055 We're the ones that are praying for people. 00:27:11.055 --> 00:27:19.134 We're stationed right in front of Brother Osteen and Doty's console there in the front of Lakewood and we're the ones laying hands on people. 00:27:19.134 --> 00:27:21.397 We don't go up for prayer, we pray for people. 00:27:21.397 --> 00:27:22.634 So we're not used to doing that. 00:27:22.769 --> 00:27:24.194 But I looked at her. 00:27:24.194 --> 00:27:26.895 I said, well, you know what, I could stand some refreshing. 00:27:26.895 --> 00:27:27.458 What about you? 00:27:27.458 --> 00:27:28.252 Well, let's go up. 00:27:28.252 --> 00:27:35.539 So we went up and you know, he laid hands on us and we I can't say the spirit knocked us down. 00:27:35.539 --> 00:27:39.275 I just yielded to the spirit and it was anointing and I fell out. 00:27:39.275 --> 00:27:46.454 Somebody caught me and we laid there a respectful amount of time and just to let the Holy Spirit work on us in the way he wanted to. 00:27:46.454 --> 00:27:52.699 And then we got up and went back to our chairs and we were there for five, 10 minutes. 00:27:53.289 --> 00:27:55.558 He kept praying for people and people kept streaming up there. 00:27:55.558 --> 00:28:00.837 I mean, you'd think it would be over after a bit, but people kept streaming up there and they lined up. 00:28:00.837 --> 00:28:09.920 So he was going down the line and he began to sing and other tongues to skip to Maloo, my darling. 00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:16.778 Well, that was the craziest, dumbest thing I'd ever heard. 00:28:16.778 --> 00:28:18.210 I just I couldn't help it. 00:28:18.210 --> 00:28:18.932 I had the loud. 00:28:18.932 --> 00:28:22.614 I looked at Gladys and I said it's crazy. 00:28:22.614 --> 00:28:26.960 I just started laughing, you know, you know. 00:28:27.529 --> 00:28:37.111 And I looked across all the way across, like from here to over there, and there was other friends of ours from Lakewood and they were looking at us and he was pointing at us, you know where. 00:28:37.111 --> 00:28:52.923 We were laughing, kind of trying to be, you know, make disrespectful, and I was like, okay, but when he shifted into Shoe Fly, don't bother me, oh God, so-ka-pa-la-ka-te, so-ka-pa-la-ka-te, so-ka. 00:28:52.923 --> 00:28:59.673 And everybody up front, they were just, they were bended over, they were falling out in laughter, rolling on the floor. 00:28:59.673 --> 00:29:06.760 And Gladys and I got to laughing so hard that we fell out of our chair forward and hit on the ground. 00:29:06.760 --> 00:29:10.680 And I mean laugh so hard that I couldn't stop laughing. 00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:16.457 Have you ever laughed so hard that your jaws cramp, your sides begin to hurt? 00:29:16.457 --> 00:29:18.016 That's exactly where we were. 00:29:18.016 --> 00:29:20.659 We were laughing and tears running down my face. 00:29:20.659 --> 00:29:22.675 I was laughing so I couldn't get my breath. 00:29:22.675 --> 00:29:25.196 It was just so powerful. 00:29:25.196 --> 00:29:28.400 I thought, god, this is holy laughter. 00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:29.835 And I'm just laughing at the guy. 00:29:29.835 --> 00:29:34.214 I mean you can call him a fool if you want to, but he was a fool for Christ. 00:29:34.214 --> 00:29:41.037 Everybody say physical demonstration, first time I'd ever had holy laughter. 00:29:41.037 --> 00:29:46.536 So then I looked up to our friends and he was pointing at me again and I just started laughing that much harder. 00:29:46.536 --> 00:29:50.314 I didn't mind being a fool, I didn't mind laying there and laughing. 00:29:50.314 --> 00:29:53.301 Glory to God. 00:29:56.069 --> 00:30:01.282 A few years later, lakewood 1992, in the big building. 00:30:01.282 --> 00:30:05.493 You know, in my memory we had more intimacy in the old building. 00:30:05.493 --> 00:30:07.957 It seemed like we had better holy ghost services. 00:30:07.957 --> 00:30:14.394 There were good services in the big building, but it seemed like the crowd was too impressed with the surroundings. 00:30:14.394 --> 00:30:18.130 That's my opinion, I don't know if I could be wrong. 00:30:18.130 --> 00:30:24.576 We moved into the building in 88 and it just it's like the level of the anointing just kind of stalled out. 00:30:24.576 --> 00:30:41.994 There was other things too, not anything to do with the brother hosting, but just you know, just we changed worship leaders and we had a rotating worship leader situation where they had a different leader each service and I felt that some of you know they needed to pick one person because there was one of the group that was really anointed and the rest of them weren't that good. 00:30:41.994 --> 00:30:44.017 They just weren't anointed to lead. 00:30:44.017 --> 00:30:51.076 Maybe you can sing, but you know it takes an anointing to lead a crowd and I, you know, I knew a little bit about. 00:30:51.076 --> 00:30:54.117 I was on a worship team in Corpus for a year. 00:30:54.117 --> 00:30:57.519 I learned a lot from, you know, sister Renee. 00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:04.619 She was a worship person, is a worship person and taught me a lot about worship. 00:31:04.619 --> 00:31:07.395 But anyway, I, you know, I'm just there. 00:31:07.769 --> 00:31:12.076 But that night it was a Sunday night, I think, and it was just an atmosphere was high. 00:31:12.076 --> 00:31:26.818 And the same woman who's meeting that we went to to support, she was back in town, her and her husband, they were pastoring in San Antonio, they were back for a visit and he, her husband, sitting next to me on the front row, and you know, and we're having this service. 00:31:26.818 --> 00:31:48.914 It's just high, the atmosphere is really good, you know, and brother Osteen got up there to kind of take over from the worship team and then, you know, everything was people would start to raise their voices and shout to the Lord and then the band would kick off playing and everything would take off and he was clapped to the music. 00:31:48.914 --> 00:31:49.877 But he didn't really know. 00:31:49.877 --> 00:31:51.797 I mean he wasn't in control of the service. 00:31:51.797 --> 00:31:59.340 I mean it was just an atmosphere and I saw myself during that time running. 00:31:59.869 --> 00:32:02.799 I saw myself running and I was a band. 00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:04.517 I thought do I want to run? 00:32:04.517 --> 00:32:06.096 I'm not, I'm the only one running. 00:32:06.096 --> 00:32:06.490 I don't. 00:32:06.490 --> 00:32:08.699 I just didn't want to do it because of my position. 00:32:08.699 --> 00:32:12.730 I'm always up there and I just didn't want to draw attention to my. 00:32:12.730 --> 00:32:16.773 You know, I'd never run in church before, especially that one. 00:32:16.773 --> 00:32:20.157 But it calmed back down. 00:32:20.157 --> 00:32:21.494 I said, lord, I think I missed you. 00:32:21.494 --> 00:32:23.673 Give me another chance. 00:32:23.673 --> 00:32:27.532 If you want me to run, if that music starts back up again, I'm gone. 00:32:27.532 --> 00:32:28.852 Well, it did. 00:32:28.852 --> 00:32:30.910 It started back up. 00:32:30.910 --> 00:32:31.673 I had to go. 00:32:31.673 --> 00:32:38.237 So I took off to the left and I hit that aisle and I went, and I think it might've been Sam. 00:32:38.237 --> 00:32:39.394 Did I run by you, sam? 00:32:39.394 --> 00:32:43.115 Sam might've been standing right there, whoever was standing in an aisle. 00:32:43.115 --> 00:32:50.896 Their eyes got big because they thought they didn't know whether to stop me or to get chewed out for not stopping me. 00:32:50.896 --> 00:32:55.618 I, you know, I'm not sure if it was you, sam, or not, but I ran by the usher. 00:32:55.618 --> 00:32:58.791 He, thank God, he didn't try to stop me and I ran. 00:32:59.031 --> 00:33:12.759 And that church, I mean it's holds, you know, 2200 on the floor and it's around 2200 chairs, and it's a long lap, it's a lot bigger than this and I couldn't run this lap without collapsing. 00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:19.682 Then I mean I'm not in shape, I'm not working out, I'm not running, I'm not doing anything. 00:33:19.682 --> 00:33:22.817 But the hand of the Lord came on me and I started giggling. 00:33:22.817 --> 00:33:23.740 I was laughing. 00:33:23.740 --> 00:33:28.375 I was like the mischievous little boy that was doing something that was naughty. 00:33:28.375 --> 00:33:33.059 My coat was flapping open and I was just laughing. 00:33:33.059 --> 00:33:37.193 My, you know, when you run and laugh at the same time, where's your breath coming from? 00:33:37.193 --> 00:33:42.955 I went all the way around and came back to my chair and I wasn't even breathing hard. 00:33:42.955 --> 00:33:44.955 The hand of the Lord came on me. 00:33:44.955 --> 00:33:47.055 Everybody say the hand of the Lord. 00:33:47.450 --> 00:33:49.817 Talk about physical demonstrations of the Holy Ghost. 00:33:49.817 --> 00:33:58.523 Glory to God, hallelujah, hallelujah. 00:33:58.523 --> 00:34:02.296 You know, in our first building we had people rolling on the floor. 00:34:02.296 --> 00:34:03.113 We had people. 00:34:03.113 --> 00:34:05.718 I thought one lady was gonna roll up the platform. 00:34:05.718 --> 00:34:17.677 That platform was lower, it was just two steps, but I mean I thought she was gonna just get her head of steam up and just roll right up there and she stopped at the bottom step, thank God. 00:34:19.070 --> 00:34:30.159