WEBVTT 00:00:00.020 --> 00:00:00.883 Pick your Bibles up. 00:00:00.883 --> 00:00:02.802 I want to get into the Word with you tonight. 00:00:02.802 --> 00:00:06.488 You know, sometimes it's just a good night in the Word. 00:00:06.488 --> 00:00:08.045 That's just fine, isn't it? 00:00:08.045 --> 00:00:12.250 Let's not just always oh, we didn't have the Holy Ghost gifts. 00:00:12.250 --> 00:00:15.458 Well, I don't know, it's not over yet. 00:00:15.458 --> 00:00:18.548 Something might happen between now and the time we get through. 00:00:18.548 --> 00:00:24.006 So, but the measure of a good service is making sure the Holy Ghost has His way. 00:00:24.006 --> 00:00:31.265 Let's lift our Bibles up and wave them around, make Jesus glad, say this together, say, heavenly Father, I'm glad I'm here tonight. 00:00:31.265 --> 00:00:35.329 This is strategic for the kingdom of God. 00:00:35.329 --> 00:00:37.746 This message is just for me. 00:00:37.746 --> 00:00:39.564 I need to hear it. 00:00:39.564 --> 00:00:45.365 That's why I'm here, and I'm not just a hearer, I'm a doer of the Word. 00:00:45.365 --> 00:00:49.253 In Jesus' name, amen. 00:00:49.253 --> 00:00:50.841 Let's turn our Bibles to John. 00:00:50.841 --> 00:00:53.546 Gospel of John, chapter 14. 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:08.224 You know the apostles knew very little about the Holy Spirit and Jesus didn't talk to them about the Holy Spirit until the night before he was crucified. 00:01:08.224 --> 00:01:20.626 And in John 14, verse 12, you know they're sad, he's breaking the news, he's about to leave. 00:01:20.626 --> 00:01:22.546 He said let not your heart be troubled. 00:01:22.546 --> 00:01:34.864 But then, in verse 12, he said verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me, the works that I do, shall you do or shall he do? 00:01:34.864 --> 00:01:49.927 And greater works than these shall he do, because I go unto my Father and whatsoever you shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 00:01:49.927 --> 00:01:55.870 If you shall ask anything in my name, I will do it. 00:01:55.870 --> 00:02:15.012 If you'll love me, keep my commandments and I will pray the Father and he shall give you another comforter paraclete that he may abide with you forever. 00:02:15.012 --> 00:02:23.063 Even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive because it seeth it not. 00:02:23.063 --> 00:02:34.169 Neither knoweth Him, but you know Him, for he dwelleth in you and shall he dwelleth with you, I should say, and shall be in you. 00:02:34.169 --> 00:02:36.883 He wasn't in them yet, jesus hadn't died yet. 00:02:36.883 --> 00:02:41.788 So he dwelleth with you, but he shall be in you. 00:02:41.788 --> 00:02:46.087 I will not leave you comfortless or orphans. 00:02:46.087 --> 00:02:48.671 I will come to you. 00:02:48.671 --> 00:02:52.229 In other words, I will come to you in the person of the Holy Ghost. 00:02:52.229 --> 00:02:55.026 The Holy Ghost is a duplicate of Jesus. 00:02:55.026 --> 00:02:57.241 He's identical. 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:12.483 And so tonight I wanted to share a message entitled the Natural Supernatural Paradigm, the Natural Slash Supernatural Paradigm. 00:03:12.483 --> 00:03:14.802 What is a paradigm? 00:03:14.802 --> 00:03:22.502 Well, it's an example, a pattern, a side-by-side comparison. 00:03:22.502 --> 00:03:33.549 So for the supernatural to occur and I believe it's absolutely vital the church begin to manifest the supernatural. 00:03:33.549 --> 00:03:37.766 The devil is manifesting his supernatural. 00:03:37.766 --> 00:03:40.763 The church is way behind. 00:03:40.763 --> 00:03:43.568 Hence this message. 00:03:43.568 --> 00:03:51.548 But for the supernatural to occur there must be a parallel natural action. 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:56.122 You know, a lot of times people are just waiting on God to do things. 00:03:56.122 --> 00:04:13.990 One of the best examples I know of and I speak against this all the time people look at me kind of shocked but 2 Chronicles 7-14, if my people were called by my name, humbled themselves in prayer and I will hear from heaven. 00:04:13.990 --> 00:04:16.480 I will hear it, you know, I will heal their land. 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:20.149 Well, that is not a New Testament prayer. 00:04:20.149 --> 00:04:22.646 That is not what Jesus was talking about. 00:04:22.646 --> 00:04:25.384 You want your land healed. 00:04:25.384 --> 00:04:26.387 You've got to do something. 00:04:26.387 --> 00:04:30.863 God's already done all he's ever going to do about healing America. 00:04:30.863 --> 00:04:35.423 He set the church in the middle of America and the church has got to do the healing. 00:04:35.423 --> 00:04:37.802 Not going to happen. 00:04:37.802 --> 00:04:41.247 You might as well just twiddle the D, twiddle the D. 00:04:41.247 --> 00:04:41.588 Dumb. 00:04:41.588 --> 00:04:46.884 I wish upon the stars Starlight, star bright. 00:04:46.884 --> 00:04:55.439 You might as well just recite a nursery rhyme as to pray an Old Testament prayer, because God is not listening to that. 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:56.584 It's not scriptural. 00:04:56.584 --> 00:04:57.985 That's for Israel. 00:04:57.985 --> 00:05:07.305 That prayer was specifically because Israel was gonna leave God and so, yeah, you know God can heal their land because they didn't have a Holy Ghost. 00:05:07.646 --> 00:05:11.822 We do, let's not forget it. 00:05:11.822 --> 00:05:14.750 We've got the paraclete. 00:05:14.750 --> 00:05:16.324 The comforter is a poor. 00:05:16.324 --> 00:05:30.946 King James translated the word paraclete the Greek word paracletus, into comforter, and the word comforter is a poor translation of who the Holy Ghost is. 00:05:30.946 --> 00:05:37.413 He's not just a poor baby patchy on the top of the head, everything gonna be okay. 00:05:37.413 --> 00:05:39.024 Well, he does that. 00:05:39.024 --> 00:05:41.809 Okay, if you're a baby Christian, he'll comfort you like that. 00:05:41.809 --> 00:05:47.343 But really and truly he's a strengthener, he's a helper. 00:05:47.343 --> 00:05:51.509 The biggest thing about paraclete he's the helper. 00:05:51.509 --> 00:05:57.307 And if you don't do anything, then he doesn't have anything to help you with. 00:05:57.307 --> 00:06:04.233 There's got to be a natural, supernatural paradigm. 00:06:04.233 --> 00:06:06.567 There's gotta be a side by side. 00:06:06.567 --> 00:06:10.629 He's the one called alongside to help you. 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:15.307 The natural, supernatural paradigm. 00:06:15.307 --> 00:06:18.482 You don't do anything, it won't get done, so it won't. 00:06:18.482 --> 00:06:26.048 It doesn't do any good for the church to pray for signs and wonders if the church is not willing to put themselves out there and do something. 00:06:26.048 --> 00:06:27.903 What do I mean? 00:06:27.903 --> 00:06:31.685 Well, you gotta open your mouth and witness to people and tell them about Jesus. 00:06:31.685 --> 00:06:33.509 You've gotta lay your hands on sick people. 00:06:33.509 --> 00:06:38.851 You've gotta lift your voice and cry against evil. 00:06:38.851 --> 00:06:48.271 Show up at your school board meeting and tell those school board members they better not put these ugly, dirty, nasty books in the school library. 00:06:48.271 --> 00:06:50.663 Confront them. 00:06:50.663 --> 00:06:54.548 When you confront them, guess who's with you? 00:06:54.548 --> 00:06:57.103 The Holy Ghost. 00:06:57.103 --> 00:06:59.908 When you open your mouth, who's really speaking. 00:06:59.908 --> 00:07:04.483 See, we spiritualize everything like just church. 00:07:04.483 --> 00:07:06.149 But this is for life. 00:07:06.149 --> 00:07:11.668 This is for going into the next phase of our nation turning around. 00:07:11.668 --> 00:07:14.007 We could turn this nation around a good. 00:07:14.007 --> 00:07:18.310 I'm not saying we're gonna make it like it perfected or anything. 00:07:18.310 --> 00:07:20.266 I am saying we can get a harvest out of it. 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:24.629 Everybody say the natural, supernatural paradigm. 00:07:24.629 --> 00:07:32.411 You know, when I got ahold of this, when I read this, when I was, I had milk on my mouth. 00:07:32.411 --> 00:07:45.627 I'd just gotten saved, and down the street was a couple that got me saved, was instrumental in getting me saved, and so they opened their home to a Bible study. 00:07:45.627 --> 00:07:54.524 So Gladys and I went, my sister and brother-in-law went and a couple other people went to the Bible study and where I began to learn. 00:07:54.524 --> 00:07:56.670 You know the basics. 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:00.064 I had just started going to Lakewood, but not all the time. 00:08:00.064 --> 00:08:01.105 It was across town. 00:08:01.105 --> 00:08:06.009 I didn't have a vision of driving across town, right, the first rattle out of the box. 00:08:06.009 --> 00:08:08.107 You know, a lot of people come and visit the church. 00:08:08.107 --> 00:08:13.026 Maybe they live in Sharpstown, maybe they live in Conroe, maybe they live in Galveston. 00:08:13.026 --> 00:08:16.745 They think, oh, it's just too far, I'm looking for a church closer to home. 00:08:16.745 --> 00:08:20.970 Guess what, you might not ever find a church closer to home. 00:08:20.970 --> 00:08:26.084 That's what I finally figured out that there was no church I could go to better than Lakewood. 00:08:26.084 --> 00:08:30.867 And I went there for 15 years, 28 miles each way, four times a week. 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:32.565 I wore out two cars. 00:08:32.565 --> 00:08:44.086 The last car that I wore out I was driving it to Lakewood one Wednesday night and a few days later I got a letter from the Texas Air Quality Board. 00:08:44.086 --> 00:08:46.667 You were spotted, mr Griner. 00:08:46.667 --> 00:08:58.828 You own an 83 of Mercedes 300 diesel, and you were spotted on 610 and 45 going, you know, east on 610, with a admitting a large amount of spoke. 00:08:58.828 --> 00:09:01.447 Please have your engine serviced. 00:09:01.447 --> 00:09:04.320 Well, it was too late to have the engine serviced. 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:05.865 It was war, slap out. 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:14.270 I was asked to pick up Benny Hinn at the airport and drive him around. 00:09:14.270 --> 00:09:19.489 He was coming into town to have a board meeting with Paul Crouch at Channel 14. 00:09:19.489 --> 00:09:24.043 They were in town and so he called Lakewood Is there anybody? 00:09:24.043 --> 00:09:25.043 And so I got a call. 00:09:25.043 --> 00:09:36.745 Hey, are you willing to pick up Benny at the airport and take him to Channel 14, wait for him to have a meeting and then take him back to the hotel, pick him up the next morning and take him back to the airport? 00:09:36.745 --> 00:09:43.249 So it's quite a lot of driving to do in my worn out diesel Mercedes. 00:09:43.249 --> 00:09:48.327 I mean, it was already worn out, it was so worn out that I could not turn it off. 00:09:48.327 --> 00:09:53.842 It's February, it's a diesel. 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:57.488 When I turned it off it would not start. 00:09:57.488 --> 00:10:08.364 The only way to start it was to squirt ether down the air intake, which would explode, boom like that, and then it would shove the cylinder down and it would start. 00:10:08.364 --> 00:10:09.106 It would start up. 00:10:09.106 --> 00:10:12.106 Well, I didn't wanna do that in front of Benny Hinn. 00:10:12.106 --> 00:10:20.407 You know I represent Lakewood, I represent Brother Osteen, I represent myself and I just too proud to do that. 00:10:20.407 --> 00:10:28.602 So anyway, not only did I pick him up, I picked somebody else up plus his security guy up, and I mean we had a whole. 00:10:28.602 --> 00:10:39.794 You know Gladys and I and three men in the back seat were and I had to leave it running in the parking lot in the parking garage, went in, picked him up, went out. 00:10:39.794 --> 00:10:44.014 I said I'll come in wait right here, I'll come around and swing around and pick you up. 00:10:44.014 --> 00:10:47.102 I didn't want to walk out to the car and hear it running. 00:10:51.811 --> 00:10:52.652 What are we talking about? 00:10:52.652 --> 00:10:54.855 Natural, super natural paradigm? 00:10:54.855 --> 00:10:56.580 But I'm talking about. 00:10:56.580 --> 00:11:08.433 Churches like this are valuable and this is where you learn the basics so you can take it out into the street where you can live a Supernatural life. 00:11:08.433 --> 00:11:20.875 You can have a supernatural witness going for you all the time, you can have supernatural influence in your world so that when you speak, things change. 00:11:20.875 --> 00:11:26.583 You know, when I speak to somebody, I Just know that demons are knocked off their shoulder. 00:11:26.583 --> 00:11:34.037 I Know that truth goes into them and and they, they, they, you know sometimes they'll respond. 00:11:34.037 --> 00:11:40.940 Sometimes it's like a seed and they don't realize till later that they heard the truth and they, they feel good about that truth. 00:11:40.940 --> 00:11:41.841 Are y'all with me now? 00:11:41.841 --> 00:11:46.595 So we do the natural. 00:11:47.511 --> 00:11:59.374 When I got ahold of this all those years ago, getting back to that story, I was amazed that Jesus said the works that we do, that he does, we can do in greater works, greater works than Jesus. 00:11:59.374 --> 00:12:00.014 What Jesus? 00:12:00.014 --> 00:12:01.299 What did Jesus do? 00:12:01.299 --> 00:12:07.379 Well, he opened blind eyes, he opened deaf ears, he raised the dead. 00:12:07.379 --> 00:12:09.325 How much greater can it be? 00:12:09.325 --> 00:12:17.168 He never got anyone born again and the new birth is the greatest miracle ever. 00:12:17.168 --> 00:12:19.889 There is no greater miracle. 00:12:19.889 --> 00:12:20.932 Yeah, it's great. 00:12:20.932 --> 00:12:23.563 Healing miracles are great. 00:12:23.563 --> 00:12:24.870 Deliverance miracles are great. 00:12:24.870 --> 00:12:26.495 Deliverance miracles are great. 00:12:26.495 --> 00:12:35.822 But let me tell you, when you get somebody saved, when you lead somebody to the Lord, when you get them to pray that prayer and they commit their life to Jesus Christ, that is the greatest miracle. 00:12:35.822 --> 00:12:40.201 He didn't get to do that, but he's given us that privilege. 00:12:40.201 --> 00:12:46.361 We're gonna be doing a lot of that between now and the time Jesus comes back, because he's got a big harvest re. 00:12:46.361 --> 00:12:47.043 Pay me it. 00:12:48.811 --> 00:12:53.322 So we do the natural, as the Holy Ghost leads us. 00:12:53.322 --> 00:12:54.850 See, we can't just walk anywhere. 00:12:54.850 --> 00:12:57.756 We want to go and and be a walking miracle. 00:12:57.756 --> 00:13:03.355 It's why, as we are following the Holy Ghost, everybody say strategic. 00:13:03.355 --> 00:13:09.871 See, when you follow the Holy Ghost, he uses your life as strategic Intersections. 00:13:09.871 --> 00:13:15.870 He can bring you into intersections of people that he's already prepared to hear what you've got to say. 00:13:15.870 --> 00:13:26.452 I've lost count, but I always know when I, when I've run into somebody, it's not random, it's strategic, it's on purpose. 00:13:26.452 --> 00:13:31.744 Whether anything happens that moment or not is is immaterial. 00:13:31.744 --> 00:13:35.822 I know I've intersected somebody and that and God's gonna use that. 00:13:35.822 --> 00:13:37.352 You got it. 00:13:37.352 --> 00:13:38.216 You got to know that. 00:13:38.216 --> 00:13:41.070 You've got to believe that, otherwise Jesus lied. 00:13:41.070 --> 00:13:44.581 How many of you know he didn't lie. 00:13:44.581 --> 00:13:50.759 The compression of the ages more and more we're gonna see this. 00:13:51.883 --> 00:14:03.173 So so when we do the natural as the Holy Ghost leads, then the Holy Ghost applies the supernatural to our natural action of Obedience. 00:14:03.173 --> 00:14:07.120 Everybody say I'm obedient to walk with God. 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:09.504 I don't ask him to walk with me. 00:14:09.504 --> 00:14:13.855 See, a lot of people want to ask God to walk with them. 00:14:13.855 --> 00:14:14.958 Well, walk with me, lord. 00:14:14.958 --> 00:14:16.221 No, we need to walk with him. 00:14:16.221 --> 00:14:18.095 Let's get it straight. 00:14:18.095 --> 00:14:21.115 We're walking with him, not the other way around. 00:14:21.115 --> 00:14:27.025 When you walk with him, that way is already blessed, that way is strategic, that way is profitable. 00:14:27.025 --> 00:14:29.254 Amen, all right. 00:14:29.254 --> 00:14:33.647 So we just got through with this example recently. 00:14:33.706 --> 00:14:34.690 Second Kings 4. 00:14:34.690 --> 00:14:50.655 Let's go back to it quickly and I won't spend Too much time on it, but I want you to see this natural, supernatural paradigm and action in the Old Testament and of course we know the Old Testament is types and shadows. 00:14:50.655 --> 00:14:55.149 Second Kings 4, verse 1. 00:14:55.149 --> 00:14:59.409 Now they're cried, a certain woman of the wives of the sons of the prophets unto Elisha. 00:14:59.409 --> 00:15:04.389 See, the prophet in the Old Testament stood for who stood for God. 00:15:04.389 --> 00:15:08.750 They couldn't approach God, but they could approach the prophet. 00:15:08.750 --> 00:15:12.159 And so she cried unto God. 00:15:12.220 --> 00:15:21.690 She cried unto Elisha, saying thy servant, my husband, is dead and now knowest that thy servant did fear the Lord, and the creditor has come to take unto him my two sons is bond. 00:15:21.690 --> 00:15:24.639 And Elisha said unto her what shall I do for thee? 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:28.188 Tell me, what has thou in the house? 00:15:28.188 --> 00:15:33.374 And she said Thine handmaid hath not anything in the house save a pot of oil. 00:15:33.374 --> 00:15:41.710 And then he said go borrow the, the vessels abroad, of all thy neighbors, even empty vessels, borrowing out a few. 00:15:41.710 --> 00:15:53.830 And when thou art come in, thou shalt shut the door upon thee and upon thy sons and shall pour out unto all those vessels, and thou shalt set aside that which is full. 00:15:53.830 --> 00:16:08.231 So she went from him and shut the door upon her and upon her sons, who brought the vessels under her, and she poured out. 00:16:08.231 --> 00:16:15.825 And it came to pass, when the vessels were full, that she said unto her son Bring me, get a vessel. 00:16:15.825 --> 00:16:18.291 He said unto her, there is not a vessel more. 00:16:18.291 --> 00:16:20.014 And the oil stayed. 00:16:20.014 --> 00:16:29.736 Then she came and told the man of God and he said Go, sell the oil, pay thy debt and live thou and thy children of the rest. 00:16:30.966 --> 00:16:34.658 So the natural, supernatural paradigm. 00:16:34.658 --> 00:16:37.931 She went to God and God told her what to do. 00:16:37.931 --> 00:16:40.052 He said you need to take action. 00:16:40.052 --> 00:16:45.567 Did the action make any sense whatsoever In the natural? 00:16:45.567 --> 00:16:46.409 Of course it didn't. 00:16:46.409 --> 00:16:58.130 In the natural it looked like a waste of time, but she busyed her sons and herself about doing exactly what the prophet said to do, or what God said to do. 00:16:59.346 --> 00:17:00.705 She went and borrowed the vessels. 00:17:00.705 --> 00:17:02.711 Is that supernatural or is that natural? 00:17:02.711 --> 00:17:07.243 Well, it's natural, nothing supernatural about it. 00:17:07.243 --> 00:17:08.911 She just went and borrowed a bunch of vessels. 00:17:08.911 --> 00:17:11.463 Then she stacked them in her house. 00:17:11.463 --> 00:17:13.191 Is that natural or supernatural? 00:17:13.191 --> 00:17:14.907 It's natural. 00:17:14.907 --> 00:17:17.871 And then she shut the door. 00:17:17.871 --> 00:17:20.211 Is that natural or is that supernatural? 00:17:20.211 --> 00:17:21.647 It's natural. 00:17:21.647 --> 00:17:26.586 But then, when she started pouring out, it started to become natural. 00:17:26.586 --> 00:17:30.115 But then she kept pouring until all the vessels were full. 00:17:30.724 --> 00:17:31.710 Where was the supernatural? 00:17:31.710 --> 00:17:33.549 The fact that she just kept pouring? 00:17:33.549 --> 00:17:39.076 She had a little pot of oil that went into all those vessels. 00:17:39.076 --> 00:17:42.251 There was your miracle, there was your supernatural. 00:17:42.251 --> 00:17:45.291 There was your natural, supernatural paradigm. 00:17:45.291 --> 00:17:48.888 What are we getting this now? 00:17:48.888 --> 00:17:53.913 It's the same way this church has been built. 00:17:53.913 --> 00:17:56.724 This is why we're in this building. 00:17:56.724 --> 00:18:01.250 This is why we're here tonight the natural supernatural paradigm. 00:18:01.932 --> 00:18:04.148 We did the natural, god did the supernatural. 00:18:04.148 --> 00:18:15.809 So then she went back to him, said, ok, we've done it, the oil has stayed. 00:18:15.809 --> 00:18:17.750 He said, all right, take the oil, sell it. 00:18:17.750 --> 00:18:20.223 And of course, what's that? 00:18:20.223 --> 00:18:28.307 Natural Live, you know, pay your debt Natural, live, off the rest Natural. 00:18:28.307 --> 00:18:29.909 But where did it come from? 00:18:29.909 --> 00:18:32.249 It came from the supernatural. 00:18:32.249 --> 00:18:36.988 The supernatural, everybody say the supernatural. 00:18:36.988 --> 00:18:44.484 So after the first vessel, everything was supernatural Until it ran out. 00:18:44.484 --> 00:18:48.109 And then, after that, she just did the right thing by the increase. 00:18:48.109 --> 00:18:53.065 So she exhibited faith to do what the Ramah word. 00:18:53.065 --> 00:18:54.751 See, she got a Ramah word from God. 00:18:54.751 --> 00:18:55.789 God told her what to do. 00:18:55.789 --> 00:18:59.970 I know it was the prophet, but in the Old Testament the prophet stood for God. 00:18:59.970 --> 00:19:02.349 Now let's look at Matthew 14. 00:19:02.349 --> 00:19:05.069 It's a type in shadow. 00:19:05.069 --> 00:19:11.315 Jesus did the same thing in Matthew 14, identical. 00:19:11.315 --> 00:19:22.458 I want you to see this paradigm because we need to be more skillful and be mindful of what Jesus said we could do. 00:19:22.458 --> 00:19:24.088 We could do the greater works. 00:19:24.088 --> 00:19:25.986 Who's going to do it? 00:19:25.986 --> 00:19:26.567 The church. 00:19:26.567 --> 00:19:36.573 Matthew 14, 14,. 00:19:38.195 --> 00:19:43.949 Jesus went forth, saw a great multitude, was moved with compassion toward them and he healed their sick. 00:19:43.949 --> 00:19:48.248 And when it was evening, his disciples came to Him saying this is a desert place. 00:19:48.248 --> 00:19:50.252 Well, what a staff, you know. 00:19:50.252 --> 00:19:51.656 They let Him know we're in a desert. 00:19:51.656 --> 00:19:52.869 Well, really, I didn't know that. 00:19:52.869 --> 00:19:54.209 I thought I was in Jerusalem. 00:19:54.209 --> 00:19:56.165 Tell me what? 00:19:56.165 --> 00:19:59.709 Give me a news flash. 00:19:59.709 --> 00:20:02.128 We're in a desert place. 00:20:02.128 --> 00:20:08.335 Hey, there's no, you know, there's no Jimmy John's here. 00:20:10.945 --> 00:20:13.674 And so the time has now passed. 00:20:13.674 --> 00:20:14.607 Send them all to the way. 00:20:14.607 --> 00:20:16.929 They may go into the villages and buy themselves victuals. 00:20:16.929 --> 00:20:24.275 Jesus said of them, as my dad said, they need not depart, give you them to eat. 00:20:24.275 --> 00:20:29.593 So there's your rainbow word give you them to eat. 00:20:29.593 --> 00:20:32.267 And they said what? 00:20:32.267 --> 00:20:34.667 What? 00:20:34.667 --> 00:20:41.335 Oh, we have here is a few loaves, five loaves, two fish. 00:20:41.335 --> 00:20:43.808 And he said bring them here to me. 00:20:43.808 --> 00:20:55.973 And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, took the five loaves, two fishes, looking up to heaven, blessed, broke, gave the loaves to His disciples, the multitude, and the disciples to the multitude. 00:20:55.973 --> 00:20:57.851 They did all eat and were filled. 00:20:57.851 --> 00:21:01.993 And they took up fragments that remained 12 baskets full. 00:21:01.993 --> 00:21:02.955 They were all filled. 00:21:02.955 --> 00:21:03.798 They were all filled. 00:21:03.798 --> 00:21:04.987 Everybody say they were all filled. 00:21:06.410 --> 00:21:07.172 All right, so what? 00:21:07.172 --> 00:21:08.634 How is this the same? 00:21:08.634 --> 00:21:11.048 Well, in other words, you know, jesus said what have you got? 00:21:11.048 --> 00:21:12.730 Recognize what you have? 00:21:12.730 --> 00:21:16.588 Well, we've got five loaves and two fish, but what is that among so many? 00:21:19.265 --> 00:21:21.472 One version said the woman with a jar of oil. 00:21:21.472 --> 00:21:26.111 She didn't say that, but she was thinking it what? 00:21:26.111 --> 00:21:27.431 So what's a jar of oil? 00:21:27.431 --> 00:21:33.348 See, whatever you have taken stock of, you need to take stock of what you have, because it's enough for your miracle. 00:21:33.348 --> 00:21:35.970 Stop by what you don't have. 00:21:35.970 --> 00:21:37.690 It's about what you do have and what you do with it. 00:21:39.365 --> 00:21:43.368 And so then bring all the vessels to be filled. 00:21:43.368 --> 00:21:45.392 What vessels? 00:21:45.392 --> 00:21:47.029 Each mouth was a vessel. 00:21:47.029 --> 00:21:52.863 5,000 men had to be 20,000 people. 00:21:52.863 --> 00:21:58.803 If each one was married with a couple of kids, I think 20,000 is a conservative number of people. 00:21:58.803 --> 00:22:01.580 So we had 20,000 vessels. 00:22:02.194 --> 00:22:03.220 How did he know how many? 00:22:03.220 --> 00:22:07.484 Well, they put him in stages of 50. 00:22:07.484 --> 00:22:11.903 He had to know how many he was going to fill. 00:22:11.903 --> 00:22:14.020 He had to keep track of it. 00:22:14.020 --> 00:22:15.220 Why did he have to keep track? 00:22:15.220 --> 00:22:17.301 He wanted to keep track of the miracle. 00:22:17.301 --> 00:22:23.060 I mean, you know, a lot of times we don't even keep track of anything and we don't even know when a miracle has occurred. 00:22:23.060 --> 00:22:31.423 If you never kept track of what you had to begin with and what you wound up with, you could miss some of the greatest miracles you ever had. 00:22:31.423 --> 00:22:32.577 You just didn't even know it. 00:22:32.577 --> 00:22:37.864 So Jesus is teaching us something about the supernatural. 00:22:37.864 --> 00:22:44.118 You do the natural, all right, but let's make sure that we're recognizing the supernatural side of the paradigm. 00:22:45.875 --> 00:22:55.338 So he brought order by bringing all the vessels and arranging them in companies of what does it say? 00:22:55.338 --> 00:22:57.345 Different versions say different teams. 00:22:57.345 --> 00:23:00.000 I see different da da, da da. 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:04.477 Well, it doesn't say. 00:23:04.477 --> 00:23:08.105 But in one of the other gospels it said companies of 50. 00:23:08.105 --> 00:23:10.118 It doesn't say in Matthew. 00:23:11.115 --> 00:23:18.203 So he brought order and then he took the bread, he took the loaves and everything and he's up in front of a parking. 00:23:18.203 --> 00:23:19.267 People are all down there. 00:23:19.267 --> 00:23:20.439 They don't know what's going on. 00:23:20.439 --> 00:23:21.382 They're all sitting there. 00:23:21.382 --> 00:23:25.200 They don't know what's happening and so he shuts the door. 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:28.843 Essentially, they don't know that he's breaking and blessing the bread. 00:23:28.843 --> 00:23:32.742 And that's not when the multiplication happened. 00:23:32.742 --> 00:23:35.749 He blessed the bread into 12 portions. 00:23:35.749 --> 00:23:36.954 He had 12 apostles. 00:23:36.954 --> 00:23:41.786 See, a lot of times people forget when did the multiplication happen? 00:23:41.786 --> 00:23:46.061 The multiplication happened in the hands of his disciples. 00:23:46.061 --> 00:23:50.641 That's real key to this miracle. 00:23:50.641 --> 00:24:09.150 He gave each of them one-twelfth of the whole, so each one of them got less than half of a loaf of bread and they got you know six, how many fishes? 00:24:09.150 --> 00:24:15.682 He had 12 loaves and two fish, so they each got one-sixth of a fish. 00:24:15.682 --> 00:24:19.117 Are y'all doing the math with me? 00:24:19.117 --> 00:24:28.965 Five-twelfths, little less than half a loaf and one-sixth of a fish for each disciple. 00:24:28.965 --> 00:24:35.665 And he said, okay, go feed those people with that just little handful of food. 00:24:35.665 --> 00:24:44.243 And then, as they went down the line, they broke off of the fish, they broke off of the bread and they moved down. 00:24:44.243 --> 00:24:47.585 They broke off and broke off, and they broke off and broke off. 00:24:47.714 --> 00:24:54.262 When I was in the Philippines one time I did this miracle and demonstration down the front row and that whole place went wild. 00:24:54.262 --> 00:24:55.457 They started going. 00:24:55.457 --> 00:25:02.160 You know, filipinos are just so soft and quiet, they hardly say boo. 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:07.565 But that room lit up and they wouldn't let me quit preaching. 00:25:07.565 --> 00:25:10.942 For three hours I preached on giving for three hours. 00:25:10.942 --> 00:25:18.925 They couldn't get enough, but I just went down bread and fish, bread and fish, bread and fish. 00:25:18.925 --> 00:25:20.279 I went down the first row. 00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:27.462 Then I went around the corner and just an imagination, you know, I didn't have any bread or fish, but I just did it like that and they saw it. 00:25:27.462 --> 00:25:32.705 They saw what they had the power to do through the natural, supernatural paradigm. 00:25:32.705 --> 00:25:39.307 You know, if we just give and keep giving, it will never run out. 00:25:39.307 --> 00:25:42.882 That's what this church has done for 27 years, going on 28 years. 00:25:42.882 --> 00:25:46.457 We just keep giving. 00:25:46.778 --> 00:26:13.705 In the time when it was tough, in the times when our mortgage company was making noises and they were, you know, making little statements and demanding that we have an audited bank statement not bank statement, cpa, audited CPA financial statement I'll get it right in a minute An audited financial statement. 00:26:13.705 --> 00:26:16.944 The audited financial statement cost us $3,500. 00:26:16.944 --> 00:26:20.060 Every time we ask our CPA, she had to charge us. 00:26:20.060 --> 00:26:28.663 It was $3,500 just to satisfy their underwriter for the mortgage, on top of the payments that we're making, which were what? 00:26:28.663 --> 00:26:30.739 Does anybody remember what the payments were? 00:26:30.739 --> 00:26:32.443 $11,000? 00:26:32.443 --> 00:26:32.845 How much? 00:26:32.845 --> 00:26:39.814 $400 a month, $31,000. 00:26:39.814 --> 00:26:48.867 I knew you'd get it right $31,400 a month. 00:26:48.867 --> 00:26:50.240 So you know $3,500. 00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:50.721 What's that? 00:26:50.721 --> 00:26:52.960 Well, it just meant that we had to believe God. 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:59.506 And they're making noises, like you know, and they have a call on the note. 00:26:59.506 --> 00:27:08.789 They could call the note for any reason If they didn't like what they saw on the financial statement. 00:27:08.829 --> 00:27:11.257 Pastor Griner, we just feel like you're just under. 00:27:11.257 --> 00:27:15.527 You're under on your financial statement. 00:27:15.527 --> 00:27:19.564 We don't like the income, the debt to income ratio. 00:27:19.564 --> 00:27:20.045 This year. 00:27:20.045 --> 00:27:23.561 We're initiating foreclosure procedures. 00:27:23.561 --> 00:27:26.000 I mean that was the threat that we were under. 00:27:27.795 --> 00:27:33.732 I said that was the threat we were under, and we had already heard about other churches. 00:27:33.732 --> 00:27:38.315 I have a friend of mine that lost his big church up in Dallas. 00:27:38.315 --> 00:27:48.055 I mean the mortgage company foreclosed on him Called him and said would you like us to forego some of your payments? 00:27:48.055 --> 00:27:50.211 Times are tough right after 9-11. 00:27:50.211 --> 00:27:52.230 Would you like us to forego those? 00:27:52.230 --> 00:27:58.775 I know it was after Obama was elected, 2008, when they had the big stock market crash in 08. 00:27:58.775 --> 00:28:06.611 Our lender did the same thing, called us would you like, pastor, would you like us to suspend payments for a few months and give you a breathing round? 00:28:06.611 --> 00:28:07.513 I said absolutely not. 00:28:07.513 --> 00:28:09.445 See, I knew. 00:28:09.445 --> 00:28:12.133 I knew I was born at night and not last night. 00:28:14.566 --> 00:28:22.289 I knew that if they got that on us, that they could require us to make all those payments up just as easily as they forewent them. 00:28:22.289 --> 00:28:25.771 For you know, forgive them for temporary. 00:28:25.771 --> 00:28:28.134 They're not really forgiving them, they're just putting them off. 00:28:28.134 --> 00:28:30.411 And so you're paying more and more interest, right? 00:28:30.411 --> 00:28:35.292 I said no, we'll keep paying, just exactly like we've been doing. 00:28:35.292 --> 00:28:41.257 And, by the way, they had automatic payment out of the bank. 00:28:41.257 --> 00:28:46.852 In other words, it was withdrawn and so that money had to be there. 00:28:46.852 --> 00:28:55.513 And one month our insurance company failed to give them the fact that we had coverage for the building. 00:28:55.513 --> 00:29:05.451 They didn't have a copy of the coverage, so they sucked out an extra $3,000 in insurance that we didn't know for a couple of months. 00:29:05.451 --> 00:29:11.496 So we were in arrears and they could have foreclosed right then. 00:29:11.496 --> 00:29:15.113 I mean, you know, these mortgage companies are tricky. 00:29:18.486 --> 00:29:19.565 Well, how did we get out of it? 00:29:19.565 --> 00:29:22.085 I'll tell you the natural, supernatural paradigm. 00:29:22.085 --> 00:29:24.451 We never quit giving, we never quit. 00:29:24.451 --> 00:29:26.684 So in our seed, we never quit believing. 00:29:26.684 --> 00:29:27.567 Are you with me now? 00:29:27.567 --> 00:29:49.616 So they handed out this five loaves and two fishes, half a loaf and one sixth of a fish in their hands until they fed the entire 20,000 people, until they were full and had 12 baskets left. 00:29:49.616 --> 00:29:53.153 Now you can live off the rest, pay your debt, live off the rest. 00:29:53.153 --> 00:29:53.855 Are you with me now? 00:29:53.855 --> 00:29:55.490 See how the parallel is. 00:29:55.490 --> 00:30:03.510 It's identical Same thing with the four loaves and the four thousand seven loaves and the four thousand seven baskets left over. 00:30:04.385 --> 00:30:14.493 In Matthew 15, the next chapter, jesus did it again just to make sure the church knows that they are hooked up with the one who knows how to multiply your resources. 00:30:14.493 --> 00:30:16.152 Come on, let's lift our hands right now. 00:30:16.152 --> 00:30:17.048 Father, thank you. 00:30:17.048 --> 00:30:19.384 You know how to multiply my resources. 00:30:19.384 --> 00:30:21.092 I'll never let fear take over. 00:30:21.092 --> 00:30:23.070 I'll never let fear hinder me. 00:30:23.070 --> 00:30:25.087 Glory to God. 00:30:25.087 --> 00:30:28.431 But you've got to do the natural. 00:30:28.431 --> 00:30:30.055 And what is the natural? 00:30:30.055 --> 00:30:30.984 The rama of God. 00:30:30.984 --> 00:30:41.816 When God gives you a rama, when God tells you to do something, you do it, and then he comes in besides us to supply the supernatural. 00:30:43.285 --> 00:30:51.411 I'd been a blade off of a job that I'd had for a year running, a remodeling company, and the guy laid me off. 00:30:51.411 --> 00:30:55.979 We weren't making any money and doing the best. 00:30:55.979 --> 00:31:06.194 I'd show it up every day, but we just we had a poor business model, and the thing about remodeling is you've got to have different types of subs in a brand. 00:31:06.194 --> 00:31:20.051 A home builder like myself I have built new homes for 25 years but it doesn't convert over very well to remodeling because you have different subcontractors and most remodelers that I know of are pretty handy with their hands and they can do a lot of things themselves. 00:31:20.051 --> 00:31:25.317 They fill in the gaps when they can't find a craftsman to do things. 00:31:25.317 --> 00:31:26.019