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<v Speaker 1>Your Bible's up and wave them around, make Jesus glad, the devil mad, and say this together Say Heavenly Father, thank God for Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to be here and I'm a heart receptive to your Holy Word.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm yielded to the Holy Spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>I intend to get the maximum benefit so I can bear fruit in these last days.

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<v Speaker 1>In Jesus name, amen, amen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I want to read out of 2 Corinthians 11 and I'm going to read in Amplified, verse one.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, while you're turning in your Bible, you're turning in your Bible's fine Matthew 24, which you might not have an amplified so you might have probably put it up on the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me read it, verse one Paul writing to the Corinthian church.

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<v Speaker 1>He said I wish you would bear with me while I indulge in a little so-called foolishness.

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<v Speaker 1>Do bear with me, for I am zealous for you with a godly eagerness and a divine jealousy, for I have betrothed you to one husband and present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I am fearful lest that, even as the serpent beguiled Eve by his cunning, so your minds may be corrupted and seduced from wholehearted and sincere and pure devotion to Christ, for you seem readily to endure it If a man comes and preaches another Jesus from the one we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the spirit you once received, or a different gospel from the one you then received and welcomed.

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<v Speaker 1>You tolerate all that well enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet I consider myself as in no way inferior to these precious extra super false apostles.

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<v Speaker 1>It's dripping with sarcasm, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>But even if I am unskilled in speaking, yet I am not unskilled in knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>We have made this evident to you in all things.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, isn't that powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Matthew 24, verse 24,.

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<v Speaker 1>For there shall arise let's talk about the last days.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus said it for there shall arise false Christ and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders, in so much that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I wanted to share a message entitled Avoiding False Ministry.

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<v Speaker 1>Avoiding false ministries.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, brother Osteen wrote a little mini book, discerning Between True and False Ministries.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just a big long title.

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<v Speaker 1>So how can we not get deceived?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's the thing that Jesus warned about in the last days.

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<v Speaker 1>He said take heed, take heed that you be not deceived.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's such a spirit of deception in the earth today and it's in the church.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the real church and it's in the pretender church.

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<v Speaker 1>And we need to guard against being deceived.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to guard against false ministries.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's true ministries, there's false ministries.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's a third category wrong ministries.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just because a ministry is wrong and has a different slant or a different belief doesn't make them false.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make it to where they're after your soul, to drag you down to hell.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have a bad motive, they're just wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just give you an example.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of bold to say it, but it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's simply of God.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a wrong idea about the devil.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't understand that Christians can be oppressed by demon powers, and so they say oh no, if a Christian had a demon, they wouldn't be saying well, that's a lie and you're wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're not being that way because they're making merchandise.

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<v Speaker 1>See, that's a different thing than what we were reading there in Corinthian.

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<v Speaker 1>But what they are is misguided.

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<v Speaker 1>You know one of their famous preachers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the best preachers they ever produced and he got hooked.

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<v Speaker 1>He got hooked into lust a number of years ago, lost his reputation.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't mention his name, it doesn't matter what his name is.

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<v Speaker 1>It was heartbreaking, and I blamed it on their lack of understanding of demons.

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<v Speaker 1>He just had a lustful demon that needed to be cast out of it and it was in his mind, gnawing in his mind, and he got drawn away from it, and so there's consequences to wrong ministries, but what I want to talk tonight are about the false ministries.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a whole another level of deception.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a whole another level of bad motive involved in false ministries.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jesus said false prophets, false ministries, false apostles, false teachers.

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<v Speaker 1>Jude said the same thing, peter said the same thing, paul said the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We have plenty of Bible for this situation that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing new.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had them for 2000 years.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think, especially now with the internet, especially now with YouTube and Facebook and many other ways of false teaching and false preaching available to us, especially when people have come out of churches that were closed up and they were desperate to have some sort of ministry that's searched on the internet Listen, that's the wild west.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know what you're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>And my remarks tonight are more about, though, people that have been deceived in ministries, not on the internet, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a whole different ball game.

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<v Speaker 1>It just goes without saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to be careful about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to be careful about listening to anybody that you don't know their life, you don't know where they live, you don't know how they live.

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<v Speaker 1>You had better be careful on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, did you see?

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<v Speaker 1>So I haven't heard of so and so and I don't have time to vet him or her and find out whether they're for real.

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<v Speaker 1>There's enough false ones that are out there going into hotels.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna go to a hotel ballroom and listen to somebody you never heard of.

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<v Speaker 1>You better be careful.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not best practices, not when you've got a local church.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people don't have a local church.

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<v Speaker 1>Their local church left them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why this message is because we have a lot of new people that are in that case.

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<v Speaker 1>Their church left them and they found us, and they're coming out of some situations that have been abusive, if nothing else.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's nothing new.

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<v Speaker 1>These false ministers are in the world today, they're in the church and I, like 1 John 219.

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<v Speaker 1>John said they might have come out from us, but they are not of us.

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<v Speaker 1>They are not of us.

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<v Speaker 1>So now the Corinthian church, and interesting because their background was the occult.

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<v Speaker 1>Their background was like much of the world in that day.

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<v Speaker 1>They were false gods, worshiping Diana and worshiping all these different Greek gods and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They were very practiced in the dark, occult practices and so.

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<v Speaker 1>But yet Paul said to them in 1 Corinthians 1.7, come behind and no good gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>So they had the gifts of the spirit flowing, but then he went in another way.

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<v Speaker 1>He said you know, you're just your carnal, your body rule, so you can have gifts of the spirit and still be immature.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do we do with babies?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you've got to protect them.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got babies will get into all kind of things if you just leave them, you know, at their own.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you take a toddler or one that's crawling on the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time they crawl on the floor, they can get into trouble real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they could not only make a mess, but they could do things that are dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you have to watch them.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were the Corinthian church and in general, all baby Christians are susceptible to false ministers.

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<v Speaker 1>They're easily deceived.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let me tell you all that glitters is not gold.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we've seen the.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we've seen the maximum of false wonders and signs yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that'll be the next thing we see.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to see some wild stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to attract following and all I can tell you is all that glitters is not gold.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think about when we are not, when we don't feed our spirit and follow the spirit of God on the inside of us.

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<v Speaker 1>We live like a lot of Christians do, with our spirits locked up, as it were, in prison, and we become victims of unscrupulous and ungodly men.

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<v Speaker 1>Because why?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we're gullible and we don't know how to listen to our spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>See, it's right, we've got to feed our spirit, we've got to get spiritually developed so that our spirit can bear witness with us that what we're hearing and seeing is the truth and not deceiving.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are some of these tactics?

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<v Speaker 1>And if we'll keep reading there in 2 Corinthians, you keep reading in verse 20, it shows you, tells you specifically what some of these false ministers do For you, endure it.

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<v Speaker 1>If a man assumes control of your soul Souls is what?

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<v Speaker 1>Not your spirit, your mind, mind control, manipulation, control, emotional abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>If a man assumes control of your souls and makes slaves of you, or devours your substance and spends your money and prays upon you, or deceives and takes advantage of you, or is arrogant and puts on errors, or strikes you with a gun, or strikes you in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's not only verbally abusive, but physically abusive.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are the tactics?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's bondage.

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<v Speaker 1>They seek for you to be dependent on them, for you to depend entirely upon them, and they want to dominate your time.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to cut you off from anyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know, a legitimate ministry wants you to cut off your associations with ungodly people, people that don't have any godly purpose in your life, especially people from your unsafe life.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people try to hang on to old friends.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>When you get saved, you're going to have to have a new set of friends.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to have to close the door on that life.

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<v Speaker 1>But with the false ministries the bondage extends to family.

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<v Speaker 1>It extends to all of your time.

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<v Speaker 1>You basically just get immersed.

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<v Speaker 1>They devour your substance.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew of one minister that asked for somebody's credit card, ran up the credit card Never did pay it back.

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<v Speaker 1>They took advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's not just offering.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not talking about offerings.

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<v Speaker 1>They're taking your credit card and going and buying clothes and whatever they take of you theft, deceit and, of course, emotional manipulation.

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<v Speaker 1>These ministries are entitled, they feel entitled to take from you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's God's reward for their faithfulness.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how they think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're deceived.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen, arrogance.

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<v Speaker 1>They exalt themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time they're talking about some revelation that nobody else had.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's got this revelation that I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you better be aware, because any revelation is, you know, it's not copyrighted.

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<v Speaker 1>The Holy Ghost doesn't just show one person.

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<v Speaker 1>A revelation.

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<v Speaker 1>A revelation has crossed the body of Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm preaching has been around for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gotten rarer in the last number of years, since Brother Hagin went to heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Word of Faith Paul talked about this Word of Faith which we preach.

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<v Speaker 1>The Word of Faith is not new.

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<v Speaker 1>The Word of Faith is the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Calling the things that be not as though they were is the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen, that's praise.

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<v Speaker 1>God, abraham did that, jesus did that.

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<v Speaker 1>But some of these so-called doctrines, like the greasy grace message God has shown this preacher, it's on television everywhere you look.

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<v Speaker 1>Still, I warned people 10 years ago when he rose up.

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<v Speaker 1>I said you better stay away from that, had a young preacher that got snared in that.

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<v Speaker 1>He led some people out of this church, away from me, giving him this other revelation, saying that you didn't have to confess your sins At first.

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<v Speaker 1>John is not written to believers.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you nuts?

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<v Speaker 1>You are arrogant, you are off.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he had leaders that met with him.

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<v Speaker 1>One leader from Ramah or Roberts himself sat down with this guy and I mean hours.

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<v Speaker 1>They went through the Bible and they confronted this young man and he wouldn't repent.

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<v Speaker 1>He said no, I've got too many followers, I'm not going to change what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph Prince, I don't mind naming names, we're not on television.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay away from him, don't read his books.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen, it's deception.

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<v Speaker 1>I said it's deception.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we avoid these false ministers?

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<v Speaker 1>When people come out with this baloney that they've got a revelation nobody else has, well, you know they're off the reservation, they're thinking too much of themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a legend in their own mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and then, of course, the verbal abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>The word mentions physical abuse, and that can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew a pastor, so-called pastor that would counsel with people.

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<v Speaker 1>He would counsel with women by himself just for the opportunity to abuse them, to take advantage of young or women that were having trouble in their marriage and he was finally had did that to one of his staff members and they went to the law and he was charged.

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<v Speaker 1>He plebargained out and left his church here in Houston with $260,000 of the tithe that people had tithed into the ministry and went and started another work in Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's one you want to stay away from.

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<v Speaker 1>You go back in his history when he was a youth pastor.

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<v Speaker 1>He was accused of rape with a young woman in his youth group.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't wonder why nobody heard about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he pleb pleb out of that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you with me now Talking about false ministers?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, false means there is a true, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no counterfeit $3 bill, because a $3 bill doesn't exist, so they don't go to the trouble of making one.

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<v Speaker 1>There are no knockoffs of Casio watches.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, did they still make Casio one Casio watch?

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<v Speaker 1>Look at this watch.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a knockoff of a Casio.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they only knockoff true thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They knockoff the expensive, they knockoff the valuable.

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<v Speaker 1>Are y'all following along with me now Avoiding false ministries?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, over this many years, going back to my days at Lakewood when I was trusted to meet with people from all over, I meet with people that would just come to town to meet with brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't meet with everybody, and so if it was a worthy situation, especially if it was a minister, I would get the task of sitting down with them.

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<v Speaker 1>But I met with people that came there that had been abused.

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<v Speaker 1>They had come out of terrible situations, and you learn a lot when you listen to people, their testimony and what all they've gone through, and you know what God is able to heal the broken hearted.

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<v Speaker 1>And so how do we recognize true from false?

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<v Speaker 1>How do we recognize authentic from fake?

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's the import of this, of this message, just a simple message.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you use Jesus as your standard.

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<v Speaker 1>After all, he's the head of the church and if this ministry, you know, they all come as an angel of life.

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<v Speaker 1>They almost all look good on the outside, so they're attracting.

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<v Speaker 1>For that reason, I mean, nobody would follow a false minister.

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<v Speaker 1>If they started out stealing from you, if they started out verbally abusing you, if they started out with these tactics, you wouldn't get within a hundred yards of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But they look good at first, look good.

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<v Speaker 1>See, jesus didn't just look good, he was good and he is good.

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<v Speaker 1>So on the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet life, their life, is in disarray.

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<v Speaker 1>Often their children are not serving God, often their marriages in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>You start finding out when you get close enough to them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're looking for somebody that they can pal around with their neck looking for their next victim.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be it.

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<v Speaker 1>You might be flattered that someone, a man or a woman of God, would pay you such close attention and would confide in you and tell you about their troubles.

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<v Speaker 1>That's never God run.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time the pastor starts trying to tell you their troubles, that's not his role in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when the hook is coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>You start feeling oh well, I must be important.

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<v Speaker 1>They're telling me all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>You get a little deeper in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Our next thing you know you find out about money problems.

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<v Speaker 1>You find out about affairs.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of these people are big spenders.

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<v Speaker 1>They spend lots and lots of money Showy cars, showy clothes, fancy house, and yet they're in debt up to their eyebrows.

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<v Speaker 1>See, when you get close enough to a ministry to see that flee I said flee, but true a true ministry gives Jesus all the credit and all the glory.

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<v Speaker 1>He takes none for himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He takes no credit for the gifts because they are gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't self developed, they were given and Jesus is manifested in their behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm not saying their children necessarily don't struggle, because preachers, kids, routinely struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Because they grow up in church and they've got a higher standard they have to live by.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of them get resentful and so forth and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can't just judge on that alone.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I'm talking about is when a false ministry what they want to do is hook you and start confiding in you, getting you to feel sorry for them, and so they start leaning on you for support, financial and emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're a woman and they're a man, well, you better be careful because the affair is coming next.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew a pastor who had a good church.

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<v Speaker 1>We went and preached for him one time in Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, I was still at Lakewood when we were invited and knew his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a prophetess, I mean, she was right on.

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<v Speaker 1>But he had had an affair with a woman in the church for eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you stand up before people and preach the Word and then you're sneaking around with somebody that's sitting there in the pew False ministry.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt sorry for his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>She was genuine and then alright.

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<v Speaker 1>So the second pastor I don't feel comfortable, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>You just need to know that we're living in those days.

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<v Speaker 1>The second way that you can recognize the true ministry from the false is the Holy Ghost is living on the inside of you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we need to develop our spirit and not be locking our spirit up like it's in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Your spirit will tell you, and also the Holy Spirit will warn you.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves to warn, but you've got to be in position to know when he's warning you.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not always going to give you a vision.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not always going to talk to you out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to know down in here and you're nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So a false minister will have familiar spirits operating in their life.

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<v Speaker 1>What do I mean by that?

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<v Speaker 1>Demon powers will often operate, and a familiar spirit counterfeit the gifts of the spirit, and so they'll do things like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lord tells me that you've got $50 in your wallet and if you give it to me, god's going to multiply it 100 fold.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, the devil knows you've got $50 in your wallet.

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<v Speaker 1>Some demons saw you put $50 in your wallet.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the purpose of that word of knowledge, it's to enrich them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a gift of the spirit, that's not a word of knowledge, that is a familiar spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you with me now?

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<v Speaker 1>Brother Hagin tells of the man who was a young traveling preacher and he told the pastor of the church where he was invited to minister.

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<v Speaker 1>He said you know, the Lord shows me that you've got a beautiful diamond ring sitting on your bureau and it's inside of a you know described the jewelry box.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said you know, I believe the Lord wants you to give that to me and it was just exactly like he described.

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<v Speaker 1>He saw this ring.

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<v Speaker 1>He described the ring.

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<v Speaker 1>He described where the man took and he took that.

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<v Speaker 1>He took that ring.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very expensive ring.

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<v Speaker 1>See, that's familiar spirits.

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<v Speaker 1>And that minister went out ministering in familiar spirits and he got some young people into sin.

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<v Speaker 1>He got some young people into sin.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's definitely wreckage, huge wreckage, besides just the financial part.

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<v Speaker 1>Familiar spirits always appeal to the flesh andrition queen and then excessive flattery.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they start controlling it because you start needing the flattery, you need the approval.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you, the devil doesn't play fair.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows your buttons, he knows your issues, he knows your weaknesses and familiar spirits will get in there and you'll get a soul tie.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what a soul tie is?

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<v Speaker 1>An emotional dependence on someone?

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<v Speaker 1>And that rope or that tie is the pathway for familiar spirits to control you and you can actually get oppressed, not possessed.

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<v Speaker 1>There's three levels of spirit and evil spirits.

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<v Speaker 1>There's oppression, then there's obsession and then there's possession, and of course possession means you're not going to heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I spirit, soul and body is possession.

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<v Speaker 1>There's very few of that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's very little of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not impossible though I've never come across it myself, but I've read about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can get obsessed with someone, that soul tie, you get dependent on their approval, you get close to them and so these familiar spirits start exercising control and you get into bondage.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank God, there's a recipe for getting free.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Holy Spirit in, you see.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Holy Spirit was shed light.

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<v Speaker 1>There's unction, there's unction.

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<v Speaker 1>You just know, you have a knowing, you have an alarm.

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<v Speaker 1>If you'll listen to that alarm and not listen to the flattery, not listen to this thing, just run the other way, amen.

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<v Speaker 1>First John, chapter two let's look at that one.

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<v Speaker 1>You getting anything out of this tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it might be a kind of a sober message.

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<v Speaker 1>But we need to arm ourselves and also you're a point persons.

00:27:33.890 --> 00:27:46.019
<v Speaker 1>Now you get this message and you, god can use you to get people delivered out of this bondage and get them rescued out of the clutches of these evil people.

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<v Speaker 1>First, john, chapter two, verse 19.

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<v Speaker 1>I read this already.

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<v Speaker 1>They went out from us, but they were not of us.

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<v Speaker 1>If they had been of us they would have no doubt continued with us.

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<v Speaker 1>But they went out that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us, but you talking about the false ones.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he says but you have an unction from the Holy One and you know all things.

00:28:12.539 --> 00:28:17.519
<v Speaker 1>In other words that unction, you know you don't have to depend on that person to tell you anything.

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<v Speaker 1>The unction or the Holy Ghost inside of you can let you know that what you're experiencing is false.

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<v Speaker 1>Verse 26, these things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of seduction going on, a lot of recruiting going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact of the matter is, evangelical seminaries have been turning out false ministries far too long, false ministries far decades.

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<v Speaker 1>Evangelical, I said.

00:28:57.105 --> 00:28:59.904
<v Speaker 1>I said evangelical.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even talking about Episcopal or Disciples of Christ or something like that.

00:29:05.944 --> 00:29:08.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Baptist.

00:29:08.479 --> 00:29:17.923
<v Speaker 1>They have been liberal for decades and they are turning people out that don't believe the Bible is the inerrant Word of God, even though that's in the Baptist.

00:29:17.923 --> 00:29:19.586
<v Speaker 1>You know creed.

00:29:19.586 --> 00:29:23.346
<v Speaker 1>They have departed from the faith.

00:29:23.346 --> 00:29:29.268
<v Speaker 1>Apostasy has already taken over, and the younger generation you can bet that they are false.

00:29:29.268 --> 00:29:35.385
<v Speaker 1>Get your friends and help them understand that they're sitting in the wrong place.

00:29:35.385 --> 00:29:38.988
<v Speaker 1>Now I tell you I'm ringing the bell tonight, amen.

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<v Speaker 1>So these things I've written unto you concerning them that seduce you, but the anointing everybody say the anointings in me, the anointing which is you have received of him a bideth in you and you need not that any man teach you, but as the same anointing teach you through of all things and his truth and his no lie, and even as it hath taught you, you shall abide in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Abide in the anointing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's not talking about teaching like I'm teaching now.

00:30:06.249 --> 00:30:11.579
<v Speaker 1>He's talking about the fact you don't need somebody to hold you by the hand to know what's true and false.

00:30:11.579 --> 00:30:12.344
<v Speaker 1>He's talking.

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<v Speaker 1>The subject of this whole thing is seducing and spiritual.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just lift our hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Father, thank you for the anointing that abides within us.

00:30:24.906 --> 00:30:27.805
<v Speaker 1>Hallelujah, we don't have to have our hands held.

00:30:27.805 --> 00:30:30.826
<v Speaker 1>We've got the Holy Ghost that lives and abides with us forever.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have anything to fear.

00:30:33.105 --> 00:30:35.762
<v Speaker 1>Glory to God.

00:30:39.579 --> 00:30:48.579
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, a genuine ministry is going to produce peace, it's going to have fruit of the spirit involved.

00:30:48.579 --> 00:31:01.347
<v Speaker 1>It's not going to be puffed up, it's not going to be touchy, it's not going to be manipulative, it's not going to be abusive, absolutely not going to be abusive.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest with you.

00:31:04.567 --> 00:31:09.306
<v Speaker 1>I've been around ministries that treated their staff in such a way as I was embarrassed.

00:31:09.306 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 1>I've been around ministries that were so abusive of the congregation that I decided I'm never going to be in another meeting with that preacher.

00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:25.145
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm sorry, but I mean you just off the rails, just off the rails.

00:31:25.145 --> 00:31:27.365
<v Speaker 1>Are you with me now?

00:31:27.365 --> 00:31:34.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean they might not be technically false, but they're so wrong that that's the next step.

00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:36.579
<v Speaker 1>They're headed in the wrong direction.

00:31:37.301 --> 00:31:44.479
<v Speaker 1>Listen people, brenham, Lake, you name all the famous preachers that had tremendous revelation.

00:31:44.479 --> 00:31:50.388
<v Speaker 1>They wound up on the scrap heap because they got puffed up in pride.

00:31:50.388 --> 00:31:52.328
<v Speaker 1>Brenham thought he was Elijah.

00:31:52.328 --> 00:31:58.451
<v Speaker 1>You know he had the picture of the halo around his head.

00:31:58.451 --> 00:32:00.579
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, I mean that was real.

00:32:00.579 --> 00:32:06.579
<v Speaker 1>I mean he man, you talk about gifts of the spirit, and then the latter part of his ministry is familiar spirits.

00:32:06.579 --> 00:32:10.530
<v Speaker 1>He would have gifts one night, familiar spirits the next night.

00:32:10.530 --> 00:32:15.579
<v Speaker 1>Brother Hagin writes about him without naming him because he doesn't want to defame the man's ministry.

00:32:15.579 --> 00:32:18.127
<v Speaker 1>But I'm talking to you kind of in private.

00:32:18.127 --> 00:32:20.935
<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting it out there for everybody to know.

00:32:20.935 --> 00:32:23.425
<v Speaker 1>You're mature, you need to hear what's right.

00:32:23.425 --> 00:32:29.065
<v Speaker 1>And what I've seen is that some of the greatest ministries wind up just like the great kings.

00:32:29.065 --> 00:32:30.490
<v Speaker 1>They wound up on the scrap heap.

00:32:30.490 --> 00:32:41.666
<v Speaker 1>Because there's such a power in the gifts of the spirit, you get to where people depend on you to perform and that's where they all mess up.

00:32:42.579 --> 00:32:47.579
<v Speaker 1>Brother Hagin said back in the voice of healing days they were having a meeting.

00:32:47.579 --> 00:32:49.567
<v Speaker 1>Gordon Lindsey was kind of the leader.

00:32:49.567 --> 00:32:54.150
<v Speaker 1>His ministry was to keep all these egos in check.

00:32:54.150 --> 00:32:57.686
<v Speaker 1>I mean they had 10,000 seat tents.

00:32:57.686 --> 00:33:00.846
<v Speaker 1>You know You're not in that ministry.

00:33:00.846 --> 00:33:16.749
<v Speaker 1>When you're a weakling, okay, you've got to be strong in faith, you've got to have confidence in yourself and it's just a little bit of a distance from there to be an arrogant, from there to being prideful, it's just real easy to think you're God's favorite man.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he, gordon Lindsey, who, christ of the nations, gordon, had the voice of healing magazine and he would recruit them to write an article and he'd have regular meetings and they'd get together in a place, 12, 15 of them that all preached, you know, at the same time, during this wonderful healing manifestation in the 40s, 50s and even in the early 60s.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother Hagin was part of that.

00:33:45.935 --> 00:33:46.579
<v Speaker 1>He never had a tent.

00:33:46.579 --> 00:33:52.008
<v Speaker 1>God told him to go into local churches and so he sacrificed money.

00:33:52.008 --> 00:33:55.539
<v Speaker 1>A big church would be 500 in those days.

00:33:55.539 --> 00:33:57.727
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a huge church.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no thousands.

00:34:00.406 --> 00:34:12.389
<v Speaker 1>But in these big tent meetings I mean 10,000, oral Roberts sitting on, you know, laying hands on people, and all these Jack Coe and different ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I could name A A Allen, shambox, mentor.

00:34:18.110 --> 00:34:21.188
<v Speaker 1>In fact I heard a tape of A A Allen.

00:34:21.188 --> 00:34:25.150
<v Speaker 1>I mean Shambox sounded exactly like A A Allen.

00:34:25.150 --> 00:34:27.518
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't tell him apart on tape.

00:34:27.518 --> 00:34:29.266
<v Speaker 1>How many of you ever knew that?

00:34:29.266 --> 00:34:33.563
<v Speaker 1>Now he served, he was a worship leader, he was the emcee, you know.

00:34:33.563 --> 00:34:41.025
<v Speaker 1>He handled his meetings for years till A A Allen died of cirrhosis of the leader of the tribe because he was an alcoholic.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, getting back, I'm not trying to ruin these people, I'm trying to tell you that people can get off and be wrong without being false, but Brother Hagen would say to them.

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<v Speaker 1>He said I'll you know, when all you guys are on the scrap heap, I'll still be preaching.

00:35:01.907 --> 00:35:06.173
<v Speaker 1>That sounds like pride, doesn't it?

00:35:06.173 --> 00:35:12.050
<v Speaker 1>But see, he's in a room full of prideful, egotistical people.

00:35:12.050 --> 00:35:16.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so he could say things like that that would black their fuse.

00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:19.514
<v Speaker 1>I mean, oh, hagen, what do you know?

00:35:19.514 --> 00:35:19.976
<v Speaker 1>What in the world?

00:35:19.976 --> 00:35:20.519
<v Speaker 1>What makes you say that?

00:35:21.525 --> 00:35:31.447
<v Speaker 1>He said because you base your ministry on the gifts, and I base my ministry on the Word, and he proved to be right.

00:35:31.447 --> 00:35:36.786
<v Speaker 1>Basing your ministry on the gifts means that you all what happens if the Spirit doesn't?

00:35:36.786 --> 00:35:38.268
<v Speaker 1>Will the gift show up?

00:35:38.268 --> 00:35:41.947
<v Speaker 1>Then you start trying to perform.

00:35:41.947 --> 00:35:50.351
<v Speaker 1>There's your familiar spirits and there you're moving into that abusive, false side of things.

00:35:50.351 --> 00:35:52.081
<v Speaker 1>Are y'all?

00:35:52.081 --> 00:35:55.579
<v Speaker 1>Are y'all here now Praise God.

00:35:55.579 --> 00:35:56.141
<v Speaker 1>Why are we showing?

00:35:56.141 --> 00:35:58.449
<v Speaker 1>Because you have to know let's, let's grow up.

00:35:58.449 --> 00:35:58.920
<v Speaker 1>We'd be.

00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:00.347
<v Speaker 1>Henceforth be no more children.

00:36:00.347 --> 00:36:01.503
<v Speaker 1>It's a grown up message.

00:36:01.503 --> 00:36:12.807
<v Speaker 1>And henceforth be no more children, but let's grow up into Christ, let's be gatekeepers, let's be watchmen over our families, our friends.

00:36:12.807 --> 00:36:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Amen, our church, all right.

00:36:17.739 --> 00:36:22.291
<v Speaker 1>The third one that we need to go by is the Word or the gospel.

00:36:22.291 --> 00:36:25.244
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know the gospel, the gospel we.

00:36:25.244 --> 00:36:27.389
<v Speaker 1>You know Paul.

00:36:27.389 --> 00:36:29.472
<v Speaker 1>Paul talked to the Corinthians.

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<v Speaker 1>You've left the gospel.

00:36:30.574 --> 00:36:32.579
<v Speaker 1>You, you seem to be willing to set the gospel.

00:36:32.579 --> 00:36:34.579
<v Speaker 1>It's not the same gospel that I preach to you.

00:36:35.101 --> 00:36:37.909
<v Speaker 1>You seem to just to suffer these fools gladly.

00:36:37.909 --> 00:36:42.943
<v Speaker 1>Let them murder the God, let them smear the gospel.

00:36:42.943 --> 00:36:51.804
<v Speaker 1>So they have condemnation, they have fear, they have constant emphasis on submission.

00:36:51.804 --> 00:36:53.751
<v Speaker 1>You need to submit to me.

00:36:53.751 --> 00:36:58.045
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard preachers they just want they'd made your own submission.

00:36:58.045 --> 00:37:01.333
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know we've submit, need to submit.

00:37:01.333 --> 00:37:04.503
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know the Bible teaches submission.

00:37:04.503 --> 00:37:08.681
<v Speaker 1>But if I have to talk about submission all the time, am I what?

00:37:08.681 --> 00:37:11.389
<v Speaker 1>What does that say about me?

00:37:11.389 --> 00:37:14.525
<v Speaker 1>Am I insecure?

00:37:14.525 --> 00:37:16.858
<v Speaker 1>That's where it comes from insecurity.

00:37:16.858 --> 00:37:17.784
<v Speaker 1>What's insecurity?

00:37:17.784 --> 00:37:18.630
<v Speaker 1>Fear.

00:37:18.630 --> 00:37:21.271
<v Speaker 1>Perfect love casts out fear.

00:37:21.271 --> 00:37:24.505
<v Speaker 1>So they're not walking in perfect love, they're not walking in maturity.

00:37:24.505 --> 00:37:25.628
<v Speaker 1>They are.

00:37:25.628 --> 00:37:28.036
<v Speaker 1>They've got troubles, they've got problems.

00:37:28.987 --> 00:37:35.130
<v Speaker 1>And then here they are, most of the false ministries that they didn't start out being false.

00:37:35.130 --> 00:37:40.110
<v Speaker 1>They didn't even start out being wrong, because everybody starts at the same place.

00:37:40.110 --> 00:37:47.431
<v Speaker 1>Dumb, he started as a baby, right, if you're really saved, and then you go from there.

00:37:47.431 --> 00:37:54.916
<v Speaker 1>A lot of them were taught wrong, but they departed.

00:37:54.916 --> 00:38:04.554
<v Speaker 1>Apostasy means departure, but in 2 Corinthians 11-3, he said I fear.

00:38:04.554 --> 00:38:10.574
<v Speaker 1>Let's look at it again, 2 Corinthians 11-3, I'll pull it up and amplify it.

00:38:10.574 --> 00:38:32.009
<v Speaker 1>Paul goes back and so powerful, but now I'm fearful less that even as the serpent beguiled Eve by his cunning, so your minds might be corrupted and seduced from wholehearted and sincere and pure devotion to Christ.

00:38:32.885 --> 00:38:35.693
<v Speaker 1>The King James says the simplicity of Christ.

00:38:35.693 --> 00:38:42.650
<v Speaker 1>That's another thing about false teachers, false prophets, false ministries.

00:38:42.650 --> 00:38:49.753
<v Speaker 1>They have convoluted hard to understand doctrine and you don't you know.

00:38:49.753 --> 00:38:53.768
<v Speaker 1>When they start preaching it, you get confused, you start.

00:38:53.768 --> 00:39:02.329
<v Speaker 1>You start what you have that in your heart doesn't agree with all of that and you're trying to reconcile what they're saying with what you've already been taught.

00:39:02.329 --> 00:39:04.210
<v Speaker 1>And there ain't no reconciling.

00:39:04.210 --> 00:39:10.608
<v Speaker 1>Just run the other way, praise God.

00:39:10.608 --> 00:39:16.092
<v Speaker 1>So I have one testimony and then we'll close with this.

00:39:16.092 --> 00:39:24.190
<v Speaker 1>Gladys and I just got and say just just well, she had been saved as a little girl.

00:39:24.190 --> 00:39:28.864
<v Speaker 1>I won't give her testimony, but hiding it safe to 33.

00:39:29.045 --> 00:39:33.704
<v Speaker 1>So we started going to Lakewood a few months after that on a regular basis.

00:39:33.704 --> 00:39:36.318
<v Speaker 1>I just visited a time or two, but then I started.

00:39:36.318 --> 00:39:38.108
<v Speaker 1>God called me to be there.

00:39:38.108 --> 00:39:42.105
<v Speaker 1>Drive across town, be a member of the story of Lakewood.

00:39:42.105 --> 00:39:53.045
<v Speaker 1>So we would come out of service and there was this woman kind of waiting on Gladys and she'd kind of get her over on some benches.

00:39:53.045 --> 00:39:59.661
<v Speaker 1>They had some outdoor furniture out there and they'd sit down and she was just talking to Gladys and I'm looking at my watch.

00:39:59.661 --> 00:40:00.505
<v Speaker 1>I want to get home.

00:40:00.505 --> 00:40:02.579
<v Speaker 1>I want to because we're going to come back.

00:40:03.123 --> 00:40:03.971
<v Speaker 1>The night service.

00:40:03.971 --> 00:40:05.545
<v Speaker 1>Night service starts at 6.30.

00:40:05.545 --> 00:40:16.403
<v Speaker 1>We're out at 12 and I want to drive all the way across town and so I went up and tried to and I heard her prophesying, which I wasn't real familiar.

00:40:16.403 --> 00:40:18.251
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know all that was yet.

00:40:18.251 --> 00:40:20.251
<v Speaker 1>That's how new we were.

00:40:20.251 --> 00:40:24.347
<v Speaker 1>I just got baptized in the Holy Ghost maybe a month before that.

00:40:24.347 --> 00:40:29.233
<v Speaker 1>But see, my, my unction was functioning.

00:40:29.233 --> 00:40:39.985
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know it as the unction, I didn't know it as the Holy Ghost, but I was not comfortable with her spending time alone with my wife.

00:40:39.985 --> 00:40:44.063
<v Speaker 1>It felt weird and I wasn't sure what her motive was.

00:40:44.063 --> 00:40:52.565
<v Speaker 1>She had a heavy German accent and I'm and I don't know that I was objecting to that.

00:40:52.565 --> 00:40:54.465
<v Speaker 1>I just objected to all that alone time.

00:40:54.465 --> 00:40:56.304
<v Speaker 1>We've got a lot of people we need to meet.

00:40:56.304 --> 00:40:57.869
<v Speaker 1>We've got a lot of people get to know.

00:40:59.405 --> 00:41:12.445
<v Speaker 1>And so the couple that was responsible for me getting saved, they had, we started going to their home for Thursday night Bible study and and we started growing and things of the Lord.

00:41:12.445 --> 00:41:17.344
<v Speaker 1>And they called me one day and said, hey, we've got a Bible study, we'd like to take you all to.

00:41:17.344 --> 00:41:21.967
<v Speaker 1>We've heard about, you know, spirit Field people over in Spring Branch.

00:41:21.967 --> 00:41:23.753
<v Speaker 1>Kind of a pretty good drive.

00:41:23.753 --> 00:41:26.945
<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, you know, glad to know, I'll go with you.

00:41:26.945 --> 00:41:28.610
<v Speaker 1>So I drove, picked them up.

00:41:28.610 --> 00:41:33.445
<v Speaker 1>We went to this house, nice big house, one story house, big old living room.

00:41:33.445 --> 00:41:55.172
<v Speaker 1>It was probably 50 people there and and the husband of this same woman Now, he didn't have a German accent, I used to, whatever, but anyway, he's teaching line by line out of the book of Ephesians and we're following along, you know, and he's just talking about you know.

00:41:55.233 --> 00:41:55.695
<v Speaker 1>And he didn't.

00:41:55.695 --> 00:42:04.445
<v Speaker 1>I mean he just it was kind of weird and wasn't like at all like brother hosting and I couldn't really see the value in what he was saying.

00:42:04.445 --> 00:42:13.376
<v Speaker 1>But I'm a baby, I did not critical, I didn't wasn't critical, I was had an open mind, open heart to try to learn something.

00:42:13.376 --> 00:42:23.347
<v Speaker 1>I didn't learn anything, just him reading line by line and bloviating, and I guess he called it teaching, I don't know, but anyway.

00:42:24.570 --> 00:42:30.572
<v Speaker 1>Then after about 30 minutes the woman gets up, so it's time for deliverance.

00:42:30.572 --> 00:42:35.195
<v Speaker 1>We've got some people that have let us know that they need deliverance.

00:42:35.195 --> 00:42:35.684
<v Speaker 1>Come on up.

00:42:35.684 --> 00:42:42.829
<v Speaker 1>And so this three people came up and they she cast demons out of them, so to speak, and they puked in a bag.

00:42:42.829 --> 00:42:54.931
<v Speaker 1>Well, that kind of blew my mind and yeah, it's nothing new, it's the same old devil all the time, you know.

00:42:54.931 --> 00:42:59.273
<v Speaker 1>And so she had the deliverance ministry.

00:42:59.273 --> 00:43:02.985
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's no such thing in the Bible deliverance ministry.

00:43:02.985 --> 00:43:04.831
<v Speaker 1>Deliverance just comes with a package.

00:43:04.831 --> 00:43:07.389
<v Speaker 1>Deliverance is part of salvation.

00:43:07.389 --> 00:43:12.313
<v Speaker 1>Casting out devils is the sign that follows believers.

00:43:12.313 --> 00:43:14.150
<v Speaker 1>It's not a special.

00:43:14.150 --> 00:43:19.170
<v Speaker 1>Every person that ever said they had a deliverance ministry is all ever in my experience.

00:43:19.170 --> 00:43:21.335
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but they all was flaky.

00:43:21.335 --> 00:43:23.905
<v Speaker 1>They're demon conscious, devil conscious.

00:43:23.905 --> 00:43:26.590
<v Speaker 1>They're not Jesus conscious, they're not word conscious.

00:43:26.590 --> 00:43:27.849
<v Speaker 1>Are you with me now?

00:43:27.849 --> 00:43:30.411
<v Speaker 1>They're looking for people to depend on them.

00:43:30.411 --> 00:43:36.615
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, that might be kind of harsh, but I mean anyway.

00:43:36.956 --> 00:43:39.952
<v Speaker 1>So I left there and we didn't talk much about it.

00:43:39.952 --> 00:43:44.465
<v Speaker 1>The couple that seemed to know the ropes didn't have anything to say about it.

00:43:44.465 --> 00:43:46.005
<v Speaker 1>They didn't criticize it.

00:43:46.005 --> 00:43:46.969
<v Speaker 1>I certainly didn't.

00:43:46.969 --> 00:43:50.128
<v Speaker 1>Now I don't want to have a critical spirit.

00:43:50.128 --> 00:43:58.661
<v Speaker 1>You know you can have a critical spirit and be be, look, turn your nose up at anything you don't understand.

00:43:58.661 --> 00:43:59.775
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about that.

00:43:59.775 --> 00:44:08.757
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the spirit of God on the inside, the unction that we have as believers, especially when we're baptized, the Holy God.

00:44:08.757 --> 00:44:13.181
<v Speaker 1>So we left them off at their house and we went home.

00:44:13.181 --> 00:44:14.996
<v Speaker 1>Gladys Knight pulled up the driveway.

00:44:14.996 --> 00:44:20.057
<v Speaker 1>I said I don't know about you, but I'm not interested in going back.

00:44:20.057 --> 00:44:21.335
<v Speaker 1>She said no, me either.

00:44:21.335 --> 00:44:24.195
<v Speaker 1>And so that's all we said about.

00:44:24.195 --> 00:44:29.431
<v Speaker 1>We didn't criticize it, we didn't bad mouth it to anyone or ourselves, we didn't.

00:44:29.431 --> 00:44:34.378
<v Speaker 1>We just forgot about it Two years later everybody say two years.

00:44:35.530 --> 00:44:37.317
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'd grown a little bit in two years.

00:44:37.317 --> 00:44:40.335
<v Speaker 1>Now you know I'm a prayer partner.

00:44:40.335 --> 00:44:43.898
<v Speaker 1>Now you know I know a little bit more than I did back then.

00:44:43.898 --> 00:44:48.860
<v Speaker 1>And so we'd gone out to see my brother Bob and Sylvia.

00:44:48.860 --> 00:44:58.237
<v Speaker 1>They lived in little place called Vanderpool on the Sabanel River and it's just north of Utopia, near Lost Maple State Park, beautiful area.

00:44:59.329 --> 00:45:06.155
<v Speaker 1>And so Saturday morning my brother and I went into town to go to the grocery store, such as a word, just a little old, bitty place.

00:45:06.155 --> 00:45:08.994
<v Speaker 1>I forgot what Sylvia needed.

00:45:08.994 --> 00:45:13.356
<v Speaker 1>But we had to go to the store and we got what we needed.

00:45:13.356 --> 00:45:18.277
<v Speaker 1>And we start walking out and this couple drives up in their car get outside to get in his truck.

00:45:18.277 --> 00:45:20.858
<v Speaker 1>He drove his truck, I was gonna get in the truck with him.

00:45:20.858 --> 00:45:31.699
<v Speaker 1>And this couple says I know you and I did recognize both of them and I hadn't seen them in over two years.

00:45:33.949 --> 00:45:40.896
<v Speaker 1>And the last time I had seen them they had come up to us after the meeting with the puking in the bags.

00:45:40.896 --> 00:45:52.621
<v Speaker 1>They'd come up on a Sunday morning after brother Osteen had started his television ministry and they were offended at the television.

00:45:52.621 --> 00:45:59.778
<v Speaker 1>They didn't like it that he was preaching into the camera and they had something negative to say about it.

00:45:59.778 --> 00:46:08.938
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm no longer a baby, I'm old enough to know that that's out of order and you better not talk to me about him.

00:46:08.938 --> 00:46:11.838
<v Speaker 1>So I just said oh, you're wrong.

00:46:11.838 --> 00:46:16.172
<v Speaker 1>I said he's talking to potential millions of people in that camera.

00:46:16.172 --> 00:46:17.634
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so what?

00:46:17.634 --> 00:46:19.153
<v Speaker 1>We're here listening to him.

00:46:19.153 --> 00:46:23.708
<v Speaker 1>He's not ignoring us, he's just ministering on television to the camera.

00:46:23.708 --> 00:46:25.976
<v Speaker 1>I fully support what he's doing.

00:46:25.976 --> 00:46:28.175
<v Speaker 1>And they kind of looked funny.

00:46:28.175 --> 00:46:31.059
<v Speaker 1>They weren't used to people telling them the truth.

00:46:31.059 --> 00:46:33.773
<v Speaker 1>So anyway.

00:46:33.873 --> 00:46:36.094
<v Speaker 1>I remember all of this like in a moment's time.

00:46:36.094 --> 00:46:39.394
<v Speaker 1>I remembered my last conversation, which was not positive.

00:46:39.394 --> 00:46:42.454
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we haven't seen you.

00:46:42.454 --> 00:46:45.115
<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, it's been a while.

00:46:45.115 --> 00:46:47.210
<v Speaker 1>How long has it been?

00:46:47.210 --> 00:46:49.217
<v Speaker 1>Couple of years, hadn't it?

00:46:49.217 --> 00:46:49.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:52.989
<v Speaker 1>And he said are you still going to Lakewood?

00:46:52.989 --> 00:46:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I said, sure, why would I leave?

00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:59.090
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you don't go to Lakewood.

00:46:59.090 --> 00:46:59.860
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, we moved out here.

00:46:59.860 --> 00:47:01.869
<v Speaker 1>We've got our own work.

00:47:01.869 --> 00:47:05.369
<v Speaker 1>We don't believe in organized church, we just believe in church.

00:47:06.393 --> 00:47:08.260
<v Speaker 1>We patterned our ministry after Paul.

00:47:08.260 --> 00:47:15.802
<v Speaker 1>Paul went from house to house and just like that I knew they were false ministers.

00:47:15.802 --> 00:47:19.157
<v Speaker 1>They had all those years been planted.

00:47:19.157 --> 00:47:26.739
<v Speaker 1>They'll come into church, they'll try to find suspects, and they didn't find enough suspects, so they had to move to the Hill Country to find the left.

00:47:26.739 --> 00:47:32.896
<v Speaker 1>And I started thanking God for the unction that was functioning in me.

00:47:32.896 --> 00:47:39.918
<v Speaker 1>Praise God, hallelujah, come on, lift your hand and receive how, identifying and avoiding false ministries.

00:47:39.918 --> 00:47:44.646
<v Speaker 1>Hallelujah, come on, let's receive that tonight, and you're going to help other folks.

00:47:44.646 --> 00:47:46.355
<v Speaker 1>We're going to help other folks with that.

00:47:46.355 --> 00:47:50.757
<v Speaker 1>Hallelujah, aren't you glad to know what the truth is?

00:47:50.757 --> 00:47:53.202
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, jesus.
