How A Stuffed Hippo Taught Us To Be Present

A one-eyed stuffed hippo, a kid who calls herself Foxy, and a messy studio become unlikely guides to something many of us chase and rarely catch: everyday happiness. We don’t wait for perfect plans or polished routines; we follow the thread of play, family language, and tiny rituals that keep us present when life feels loud.

We start with a simple challenge to the rat race script—school, work, repeat—and ask what joy looks like now. Foxy shares the early sparks of her writing project, scattered pages and all, and we lean into the truth that creative energy usually arrives before structure. From there, we trace the hilarious, heartfelt origin of Steve the Hippo, the toy that turned into family shorthand: buck teeth, tree-yeeting, “I’m cute,” and a hands-over-head signal that quietly says we’re us. Along the way, we recount the Florida lost-and-found saga, how a plush animal carried our shared memories, and why laughing at awkward moments can knit people closer than a perfect plan ever could.

We also explore how short-form videos on TikTok became a practice of noticing. It wasn’t about views; it was about participation—capturing micro-moments that help a family return to presence when the day gets messy. We talk sushi, road trips, and the surprising power of gratitude-in-threes to reset a mood in under a minute. If you’ve been waiting for life to calm down before choosing joy, this conversation is your permission slip to start where you are, with whatever silly, sincere bit your people already love.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Hi, welcome to another episode of Life Changers, and this is Mike. So sorry it's been a while to my lovely listeners, but uh I'm back. And just been very busy and stuff like that. The studio's a mess. It's also my office. There's paperwork everywhere. But today I have a very special guest in here. I have uh a lovely girl, her name's Phoenix. Hi, welcome to the show. And she brought her friend Steve the Hippo with her. And you can hear Steve talk through her voice. Hi. Hi, Steve. So, Steve the Hippo, you want to tell us a little bit about yourself? Where would we know you from?

unknown 0:40

TikTok.

SPEAKER_02 0:41

So he's on TikTok. He's on Steve dot the dot hippo. And Steve is spelt S-T-E-E-E-V E. Because he's a hippo. He doesn't know how to spell his name properly. How dare you? I'm sorry, Steve. So today we're going to talk uh about changing our life, Steve. How does that make you sound feel? Sound or feel?

SPEAKER_00 1:04

Like a hippo.

SPEAKER_02 1:05

Like a hippo.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

My voice changed.

What Makes Us Happy

SPEAKER_02 1:09

So I'd like to say welcome to the show, Steve. And today we're going to talk a little bit about uh happiness and how to find happiness in this reality. Do you think you know how to do that, Steve?

unknown 1:20

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:21

No. Do you have any ideas of what it means to be happy? So to be happy in this world, like a lot of us do the rat race, right? Where we either if you're young, you go to school, or if you're homeschooled, then you gotta do all your school education, right? Education. Educational. Makes you smart, right, Steve? No. Did you get an educational?

unknown 1:48

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:50

Well, and then from there, a lot of people like to grow up, they work, and that's their life, right? But I believe in having happiness now. So, Steve, what things make you happy?

SPEAKER_00 2:03

My family!

SPEAKER_02 2:04

Your family? Do I make you happy, Steve?

SPEAKER_00 2:07

You're not my family.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

Oh. So, Steve, are you married and have kids? You. Yeah? Are your kids happy? You. Is your wife happy?

unknown 2:18

No.

SPEAKER_02 2:20

Why do you say she's not happy, Steve?

SPEAKER_00 2:22

Because she snook with the kids.

SPEAKER_02 2:24

Oh, I guess that makes sense. But isn't it being fulfilling being with your kids?

unknown 2:30

No.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

I put up with you. Oh no, your kid. Uh well. So yeah, Steve really wanted to come on and do an episode with us. So we're gonna do a little episode. So we had just had sushi, so I'm a little stuffed. Was the sushi good, Steve? Yeah. What was your favorite sushi? Salmon. You like the salmon? Do you like it cooked? Or are we still swimming? Still swimmer! Do you swim after it, Steve?

SPEAKER_00 2:59

No, my wife does.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

Oh, she's the hunter. Nice. You can turn off that light now, Steve.

unknown 3:06

Oh yeah.

Sushi Chat And Being Present

SPEAKER_02 3:06

Now it's dark in here. But yeah, so just, you know, enjoying life and being present. Like that's hard to be present. So the other day we had a little situation where I was not present. You were not present. Um and oh, look, the light turned on. We got motion sensor cameras, and it turns on when we move. Oh. Sorry. Sorry about that, Steve. And to everybody. Ooh. Sushi's coming back. I think it's swimming out, Steve. Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

I mean I mean Mike.

SPEAKER_02 3:49

That's right. I could cut that part out. Anyway. Oh talking to a stuffed animal people in my studio. My daughter's here, okay. And she wants to go by Phoenix because she thinks that name is cool.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

I said Foxy.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

Oh, Foxy, sorry. And that name's cool. Do you like that name? Yes. Yeah. Why did you pick Foxy?

SPEAKER_00 4:12

Because I like Foxes.

SPEAKER_02 4:13

And is that going to be your handle when you become a writer?

SPEAKER_00 4:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:18

Yeah. And then you can come on the show and do an interview about your books you're going to write? What book are you writing right now?

SPEAKER_00 4:24

Animal Spirits.

SPEAKER_02 4:25

Animal Spirits. How long is that going to be anything?

SPEAKER_00 4:27

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 4:29

Are you are you halfway done, quarter way done?

SPEAKER_00 4:32

I barely wrote anything.

SPEAKER_02 4:33

Well, you've got lots of pages scattered all over your house. I mean your floor. I lost one. Did you? Yeah. Did the cat eat it? Or did Steve eat it? Steve, did you eat her? That's new. But does that make you happy to write?

SPEAKER_00 4:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

Does it make you happy having Steve?

SPEAKER_00 4:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:49

Is he your emotional support hippo?

SPEAKER_00 4:51

We have no emotional support hippo.

SPEAKER_02 4:54

You're real, right, Steve? So we brought Steve like everywhere we go. We go to Florida with Steve.

SPEAKER_00 5:00

I got lost in Florida.

SPEAKER_02 5:01

Yeah. Do you want to tell the story, Steve?

SPEAKER_00 5:03

I was a hippo.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

Maybe uh Foxy wants to tell the story of what happened to Steve. What happened to Steve?

SPEAKER_00 5:09

No one knew I'll tell my own story. Okay, go ahead, Steve. I was in Florida at a little playground in a big resort. Yeah. And then I got plopped on the ground and never picked up again. That's all I remember.

SPEAKER_02 5:26

Well, somebody must have picked you up and brought you to the Lost and Found.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

I was shoved in a cupboard.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

Were you?

SPEAKER_00 5:32

Yeah, I was in a cupboard.

SPEAKER_02 5:34

Were there other toys in there and you're talking to them?

SPEAKER_00 5:36

I think there was an old bunny. Were you like, Freedom? No. I was like, oh yippoo.

SPEAKER_02 5:44

So when people see Steve, what do they ask you? Or what do they think he is?

SPEAKER_00 5:49

I think it was Capibara.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

Yeah, Capabar is a popular one for us.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

Or sometimes a moose. That's just weird.

SPEAKER_02 5:55

Yeah, we got a beaver once or twice because of the buck teeth.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

Big buck teeth. We have two.

Foxy’s Writing And Steve’s Origins

SPEAKER_02 6:00

Steve's famous for his famous buck teeth. He's brown. And kind of does look like a capa bear. Don't say that to Steve. You get offended. I can hear you. Oh sh sorry, Steve. I didn't say nothing. Yes. And anyways, so how Steve came about is how many years ago now?

SPEAKER_00 6:25

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 6:28

Was it joined?

SPEAKER_00 6:30

No.

SPEAKER_02 6:31

We we had the the big trailer and we finished renovating it. So it must have been like 2017, 2018.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

Yes, story when you got chucked in a tree.

SPEAKER_02 6:41

So so my daughter found Steve. Like Steve the Hippo was like um my wife. Yes, my wife's your mom's um toy that she earned in elementary school or something for good getting good grades. Yeah, anyway, so we found her she found her. And then um what's your name again?

SPEAKER_00 7:08

Foxy.

SPEAKER_02 7:09

Foxy. And then Foxy found her. Or did mom give her to you?

SPEAKER_00 7:14

Uh he was in a bin.

SPEAKER_02 7:16

He was in a bin. We're going through all like our her mom's and my treasure chests, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 7:21

Like we call treasure.

SPEAKER_02 7:23

I don't know, what do they call? They're not treasure chests. Memory boxes?

SPEAKER_00 7:27

Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

I don't know if crap we had when we were kids. Anyway, this is gonna be a fun episode, trust me. And then she found him and then she was playing with him. Then she she comes into the house and she looks at me and goes. Like something like Boris! No, maybe like hi, I'm Steve.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

What are you doing? I like to get I had a song, I don't remember.

SPEAKER_02 7:52

Yeah, I was like, I'm Steve, I have buck teeth, and I like to be throwing in trees.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

He's like, I'm Steve, we big buck teeth, and we can chuck into trees.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

So I'll be like, okay, that's cool. And I just look out the window and I just see her throwing Steve the hippo and chucking him in the as high as she can into the trees and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 8:11

Yeah, I had a string tied to me.

SPEAKER_02 8:13

Yeah, and she had it a string so she can yank him out of the trees. And like you're 12 now, so you must have been like six, seven. Yeah. Anyways, and then she just comes in and starts doing like a monologue with Steve, and it's really funny, I remember. And then Steve likes to be playing in the forest. I'd be chucked in the trees. And then, like, I don't know, became a thing. Like, she was really funny with him, and I was like laughing my ass off. Yeah, so he does all these weird things. I'll be like, okay, Steve, do macaroni. Then he like bends himself a certain way. She started bending. And then there's like I'm cute, and he like twists his head or something.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

I'm cute.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

So, like, if you really want to, like, I'm gonna put the link in the descrip in the description today of his TikTok page because it's pretty funny. Did we ever do a TikTok where we're like, okay, Steve, I'm cute. And he does all the little things.

unknown 9:18

No.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

Maybe we should, because you gotta see, it's pretty funny. But anyway, so she does all these funny things with him, and then it became like part of the family. And one thing he does was is like even we do it now. We put our hands above our head and we're like and like we decided the other day that that means family. Like, you know, like we're having fun, we're having a good time, like family, love you type thing. It's pretty funny. Instead of like like a little one stitch, what do they call it? Ohana. Ohana, I think. Yeah. For us it's until we pass out.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

You got really hit it.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

You get lightheaded, it's fun. No. Anyway, so one time, so we just started like he would come everywhere with us.

SPEAKER_00 9:59

Everywhere.

Florida Misadventures And Lost Steve

SPEAKER_02 10:00

So like that's why he's like the emotional support animal. And she would like just say funny things with him, like, I don't know, make it hilarious. That's all I know. I was like, it was it was pretty funny. And um anyway, so we'll go everywhere with him. And when we were in Florida, sometimes my daughter's like, here, hold him. So we're at like the phosphate museum.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:21

And like you're digging for fossils and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 10:23

Digging for shark teeth.

SPEAKER_02 10:25

Yeah, shark teeth. And you guys found a bunch, eh? You're holding me. Yeah. So then she's like, here, hold Steve. And I didn't want to stand in the sun. I wasn't on the floor digging. So I was just walking around with Steve in my arms. And I'm like walking around the museum, like outside the museum, and they have like these um and it's in Florida. So like if you're big statues. Yeah, they have big statues of like a tiger and a cybertooth lion. A cybertooth lion and another thing with a hard shell. Yeah, big armadillo. Anyway, so they have that outside the doors of the museum. And it's like the phosphate museum in Florida. Like it's pretty cool. It's free. And uh at the cross street from the McDonald's. Anyways, and I'm holding walking around, bored out of my mind. I'm holding the U, Steve. And then I had like my kids' hats and stuff like that. I had other things I was carrying. Anyways, I was carrying a bunch of things just moping around. And then I'm like looking at the the statue things made out of wood and with Steve, and I'm just playing with him, like Stevie. Yeah, because I'm weird. Anyway, so then I'm walking around, and then I we I leave, and then we go finish digging, and then we go inside the museum to show the lady all the stuff because she's like really cool. She wants to see everything the kids found, and she could tell them what it is, and stuff like that. And then she's like, Oh, you're the dad? I'm like, why? Yeah, like what's up? She's like, I just seen you walking around, like, you know, with that stuffed animal in your arm. And then I saw you look at the cyber tooth tiger statue thing, and then you turn around and walked away. So she's like, I thought you were like scared or something, like your special needs. And that you got scared I was gonna come out and tell you it's fake, it's a statue. Then you didn't want to hold me again. Nope. Everybody thought I was slow and special needs. Anyways. And then my wife's like, what would you have done if she came running out to you? I said, I would have gone with it. I would have been like I would have been like, oh, I'm so scared. Oh, we need to bring uh your Uncle Johnny with us because he has special needs, it'll be fun.

SPEAKER_00 12:44

Driving all the way to Florida.

SPEAKER_02 12:46

Yeah, do you think it'll be fun to drive with Uncle John to Florida?

SPEAKER_00 12:49

No.

SPEAKER_02 12:52

At least you're honest. Anyway, so that's how Steve became part of the family. And then while we were in Florida, we started making TikToks and see some of those videos on TikTok. And then once again, I'll put the link in the description.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

Steve be rolling.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

He be rolling, yeah. He went down slide rolling down slides, rolling down hills. Yeah. Tripped and fell and got a hippo band-aid or something.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

He was a Bucky's band-aid.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Yeah, it's Buckeys. Don't we like Bucky, Steve? Because he has big buck teeth like you.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

Uh, kind of.

SPEAKER_02 13:20

And they have clean bathrooms.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

Yeah, but if you eat too much food, you feel sick.

SPEAKER_02 13:24

Yeah, just don't eat too much of their food. The gas is real cheap there. I recommend if you're traveling and you see a Buckeys, you fuel up at the Buckeys.

SPEAKER_00 13:34

There's like 50 of them.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

There's like sometimes a hundred or so things.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

It's a lullie.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Yeah, and they guarantee to be the cheapest price around. Everything in the store is freakishly expensive. But they've pay their staff very, very, very well, so it's worth it. And I go for the cheap gas. And the drinks are cheap and the coffees are cheap inside. Anyway. So yeah, so that's how Steve became part of the family. And then that one time, anyways, when we lost Steve, we were all freaking out. And everybody says this is the reality that everybody has, is that I was freaking out the most that I was gonna cry and stuff because we couldn't find Steve.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

And I was just calm.

SPEAKER_02 14:14

And you were calm. Do you do you think you would have cried if Steve was lost forever?

SPEAKER_00 14:18

Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

Do you think I would have cried for real?

Family Rituals And TikTok Bits

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Yeah. Why does everybody think that?

SPEAKER_02 14:25

Like, go on.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

You were looking in the hotel room everywhere. You started to cry. That's Steve. That's what Isaac said.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

I wasn't crying.

SPEAKER_00 14:32

You're like, Miss Steve.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

I was. I don't cry.

SPEAKER_00 14:39

You really love me, don't you?

SPEAKER_02 14:40

Yes. It's not that I love Steve, okay? I love the person that's handling Steve. Because she's an amazing human being, and this is how we connect and have fun, right?

unknown 14:54

Woo!

SPEAKER_02 14:57

Anyway, so Steve, is there anything you want to talk to m to me or ask questions about since you have me?

SPEAKER_00 15:03

I thought this was gonna be about happiness.

SPEAKER_02 15:05

Yeah. You make me happy, Steve.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

You make me happy my time saving you.

SPEAKER_02 15:13

We went off the rails with this one. But you know what? People are gonna love it, right?

SPEAKER_01 15:17

Good story!

SPEAKER_02 15:18

Yeah, everybody loves Steve the hippo with his big buck teeth and likes to be yeeted into trees. And you I see yes, that's right. You only have one eye, too. What happened in your eye, Steve? Do you remember? Nope. Me neither. You were like shoved in a drawer for like fifteen years. In a box, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 15:41

I was in a box.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

How did you survive?

SPEAKER_00 15:43

I found my wife.

SPEAKER_02 15:47

What did you guys eat? We ate dirt. All the dirt and paper in there.

SPEAKER_00 15:53

And other stuffed animals.

SPEAKER_02 15:55

But yeah, so this is why Steve makes me happy. Because Firefox? No. What do you call yourself? Foxy. Firefox. Oh, that's so old that browser. I don't even think it exists anymore. Foxy, yes. My daughter. Foxy. It's fun. Like she really was looking forward to doing the podcast. I mean, Steve was really looking forward to doing the podcast. Yeah, not you, Foxy. But uh yeah, and Steve, you enjoy going to different camps and stuff with us and going to all like the homeschool groups and McDonald's. Today you had sushi. That was fun.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Ooh, me, Steve?

SPEAKER_02 16:32

Yeah, Steve.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

Ooh, wee boo.

SPEAKER_02 16:36

Did you go to school? Did hey Foxy? Did he go to school with you? Oh. He's just like He's came to the Arctic with me a few times. We made videos.

SPEAKER_00 16:49

My wife came too.

SPEAKER_02 16:50

Yeah, took your wife.

SPEAKER_00 16:52

She's green and fly it.

SPEAKER_02 16:53

Yeah, we call her flat.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

That's your niece.

SPEAKER_02 16:56

She's green and flat. That's right. I remember now. Oh, it's so crazy all the stuff we brought.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Did you forget about my wife?

SPEAKER_02 17:03

No, no. I brought your kid with me too.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

You have three kids.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

Yeah. How many did I bring my mom with me at one point?

SPEAKER_00 17:09

I think you brought um Stesserae.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

Yeah, Steserae. The gray one. The gray one.

SPEAKER_00 17:16

And um Thumbo, the brown one.

SPEAKER_02 17:18

What about the purple one?

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Sparkle farts?

SPEAKER_02 17:21

Yeah, I think I took Sparkle.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

I don't think you ever took Sparkle Forts.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

I swear I did. I took a couple of them once.

SPEAKER_00 17:29

You also took Toy Hippos with you.

unknown 17:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:33

CSD's been to what Lego World? We've been to a zoo. Zoo. You saw your cousins. You saw your cousins. That's right. We went to the Cincinnati Zoo.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

Oh, but then I got my arch nemesis.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

Who's your arch nemesis?

SPEAKER_00 17:49

I forget its name, but it was like purple. Not my kid, but the other one.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

The purple?

SPEAKER_00 17:55

I think it was Fiona.

SPEAKER_02 17:57

Fiona? Oh, yes. Yeah, she yes, yes, yes, yes. I think it was like Fiona from the Cincinnati Zoo. We bought her. And now it's your arch nemesis. Why is she your whatever that word is?

SPEAKER_00 18:13

Arch nemesis?

SPEAKER_02 18:14

Arch nemesis.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

I don't know. Because she's a hippo.

More Adventures, Voices, And Wrap

SPEAKER_02 18:19

Oh. Well, Steve, I say you had a lot of adventures.

SPEAKER_00 18:24

Spoider Hippo. Spoider Hippo.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

Yes, I remember that TikTok. We made a lot of TikToks, and people actually like it, so we gotta make more. Just like people really like listening to these podcasts.

SPEAKER_00 18:35

And me.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

And you. So we gotta make more. So we're gonna collaborate more, Steve. And we'll actually have something we could talk about.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

Maybe like a script or something?

SPEAKER_02 18:43

We don't do scripts here.

SPEAKER_00 18:44

Maybe like we just talk. Something talk about.

SPEAKER_02 18:48

We are talking. We've been talking for uh hold on. Hold on.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

A few seconds.

SPEAKER_02 18:55

Hold on for a few more seconds. We've been talking for 19 minutes. Yes, Steve. I'm gonna sing soon. Okay, sing a song. Yes, your world famous song. How many views did you get on TikTok for that one?

SPEAKER_00 19:19

I don't think I s did I sing that one?

SPEAKER_02 19:22

I don't know. I thought you did.

SPEAKER_00 19:23

There was something called like DJ Steve. What did I do and I'm like, oh remember.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

We're gonna watch them all and we gotta get back on the TikToking.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

If you can find out to sign in again.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

Yeah, I gotta figure that out, Steve, so we can do it again. Is there anything else you want to mention to the audience? We did a lot of times. It's Steve dot the dot hippo on TikTok. But I'm gonna add a link in the description. So Steve, before we go, you gotta let me know three things that make you happy. Yeah, that's one. You that's two and food. What about Foxy?

SPEAKER_00 20:10

She just bees me.

SPEAKER_02 20:12

She beats you and throws you in the trees. What's your favorite TikTok we made, Steve?

SPEAKER_00 20:20

Um, probably the chili bean one.

unknown 20:23

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

Oh, that one is a funny one.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Doopies as fishes, do bees as fishes.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

That's right. Oh man, we had a lot of fun. So, Steve, I'm sorry we're gonna cut this short, but these episodes are only like twenty minutes to half an hour now. But we're gonna have you on again. It is very late, and I'm tired, and we spent like twenty minutes trying to fix this stupid thing.

SPEAKER_00 20:46

Michelle! What? I mean Mike! Yes. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 20:51

I gotta edit all the Michelle's out.

SPEAKER_00 20:53

I think I only said twice.

SPEAKER_02 20:55

Three times now.

unknown 20:56

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 20:57

Is this what I call you?

SPEAKER_02 20:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

His name is Mike, by the way.

unknown 21:02

Mike, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 21:04

Mike.

SPEAKER_02 21:06

So can you do different voices, uh Phoenix? I don't know. It's Foxy! Foxy. It's not your real name.

SPEAKER_00 21:15

It's not forgetting your child's pick knee.

SPEAKER_02 21:20

So how many voices can you do? Can you do British like your other your older sister? Umbr-S. She did British.

SPEAKER_00 21:27

I can't really do British.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

What else can you do? Um why do you like sushi?

SPEAKER_00 21:36

Raw fish.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

So yeah, if ever we're visiting and you have a fish tank, just watch my daughter because she might eat your fish.

SPEAKER_00 21:44

I won't eat the fish unless they're cooked. I mean, on a food.

SPEAKER_02 21:47

On a pl on a food. On a plate. Okay. Well, this has been really fun, but we should get going. We should do this again sometime. So thank you very much for listening. Once again, you are loved. You are appreciated.

SPEAKER_00 21:58

By Steve!

SPEAKER_02 21:59

By Steve. And Foxy and me. And once again, this is Life Changes with Mike. Thank you very much. Peace.

unknown 22:06

Good boy.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

Bye.