The River Morning Show Weekly Podcast | EP 151 | JAN 10 2025

We laugh over dog face-licking, trade stories about courage and change, and land on a simple truth that fresh starts work best when they’re shared. We keep the conversation going with decluttering, bougie kid palates, and a men’s group moment that feels like real church.

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Teaser And New Show Plug

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Here's what to expect on this week's episode of the River Morning Show weekly podcast.

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12-year-old Curtis said, I want to do one big scary thing. There we go. Cool, like maybe skydiving.

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Oh.

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Oh. Literally done well.

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As I'm thinking, like that's the most deepest scariest thing ever.

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I think it'd be so cool. No!

The Great Dog Face-Licking Debate

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Oh my word, no. Thanks for listening in on this podcast. Of course, you can find more on the on-demand page at riveradio.com. Including, by the way, Hannah's very own brand new podcast. It's called And That's a True Story, where she's taking stories from the Bible that sometimes are so outlandish we think, what a nice story. But then reminding us these things all actually happened. So you can check it out again. Click on demand at riverradio.com or anywhere you get your podcasts, just search and that's a true story. And I say this is one of the reasons I don't get sick very often. My immune system is rock solid because I let my dog lick my face.

SPEAKER_03 1:07

How are those connected? Wait, wait. Because of all Okay, just the germs.

SPEAKER_02 1:13

I'll just let you put two and two together. I know.

SPEAKER_03 1:15

But you're saying the germs on a dog's tongue prevent you from getting the flu or the cold.

SPEAKER_02 1:21

Here's the other thing, too. Ollie, my uh my five-year-old pop, is he's a lover, not a fighter.

SPEAKER_03 1:27

Yeah.

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So if I really let him get after it, he will clean my sinuses.

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He just goes to town.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

Oftentimes, like I don't mind. He's not licking my lips. He licks my nose. Like the tip of my nose.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

He's just smell. Does he have bad breath?

SPEAKER_02 1:42

I mean, he's just got puppy breath still. I it's fine. Okay. My family is like, ew, he stinks, Mike. He does not come here. My wife will be like, Ollie, stop. And I'm like, you quit. I'm enjoying this.

unknown 1:55

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

So the question is, do you let your dog lick your face? Because my wife does not let him lick her face. But I like, if I don't let him lick mine, he he looks at me side eye. He's like, are you cheating?

SPEAKER_03 2:08

Like, you know, or he just mattered like he gets hurt in his heart.

SPEAKER_02 2:12

Of course. And so come here and lick my face all day. I put this on the River Morning Show Facebook group yesterday. It lit a firestorm, apparently. Really? Yeah, a lot, a lot of uh commentary. You can you can join the conversation now. Call or text 800-609-1049 if you let your dog lick your face. Uh Susan said absolutely yes.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

Okay, yeah, that that feels right.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

I mean, that's that was just that's all she said. All caps. Absolutely yes. Joyce said absolutely not. Oh. And she included four barf emojis and a sad phase emoji for good measure.

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So we know where she stands.

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Amy said yes. All that love makes her stress go down.

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I've heard that, Eddie. Getting key shis from a dog, your anxiety.

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I call it fuzz therapy.

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Yeah, there you go.

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With a little uh with some kisses on the side. Deborah says no. She said we all know what else they lick. And I was like, what? My dinner plate? Is that what you're talking about? And then the conversation continued, and I'll I'll also let you put two and two together on that. Anyway, what say you? Do you let your dog lick your face? Some people are all about it. Some people are not about it. Call or text 800-609-1049. We can call it an immune booster because of all the antibodies you're building. My immune system is rock solid. I believe in part because I let my dog lick my face.

SPEAKER_03 3:37

I don't know if I follow that side.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

I fully acknowledge that. Yeah, I know. Listen, okay, it's a dog's mouth. I know, but he loves me so much.

SPEAKER_03 3:46

Oh, yeah, you don't want to turn him down.

SPEAKER_02 3:48

Yeah, right. And so I pick him up because he's a little guy, so I pick him up every day when I get home, and he just sits in my arms and reminds me how much he loves me. So who's golly?

SPEAKER_08 3:57

Who's to say no about such a thing?

SPEAKER_02 3:59

Uh, we put this on the River Morning Show Facebook group yesterday, kind of blew up like 40-something comments or whatever. And it really people are divided right down the middle of no, you're disgusting, to why wouldn't you? Uh-huh. There's really no middle ground either. Nobody's like, I don't know. It's like either it's the best or it's the worst.

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This is something you have to pick aside. If you are a dog owner, there's there is no in-between.

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So you can jump in, uh, call or text 800-609-1049. Steve, did you get those kisses? Did you get those kisses?

SPEAKER_06 4:31

Uh yes, I do.

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That's what I'm talking about, man.

SPEAKER_03 4:34

Okay, what's your dog's name and what kind of dog is he?

SPEAKER_04 4:37

Well, we have two of them. We have a Pomeranian and a chihuahua, and they both lick our face.

SPEAKER_03 4:43

Oh, they just got their little itty bitty tongues.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

And the other thing too is when you're holding them, they're right there. So you might as well just let them.

SPEAKER_07 4:50

Exactly. They are so cute. My granddaughter loves it. She just loves letting lickers all over his face. The only thing we don't do is let him lick our mouth.

SPEAKER_02 4:58

Yeah, that's right. I mean, I'm the same way. Like, I'll hide my lips. I'm like, no, you can lick my nose, my cheek, that's fine. But we're not, we're not doing the full ones. You know, no, no friends just with it.

SPEAKER_03 5:09

Do you remember um uh growing up when I was a kid, everyone would say dog's mouths are the cleanest mouths. I remember. And so you'd share food with them. Uh-huh. Yeah, that was such a lie.

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Completely lie.

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Such a lie, but we still love it. What can you say? They're part of the family.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

But so Hannah, you said you you love it. We actually haven't heard from you, and you've owned you've owned a dog much longer than I have. You had dogs in your life, so what happens?

SPEAKER_03 5:32

So, Murphy, he was a German Shepherd lab mix. He he wasn't interested in licking anyone's faces. Oh, really? He wanted your legs. Huh? Yeah, he would just like you would lay on the couch or lay in bed, and you would get a a bath from him licking your legs. I think I would prefer the face rather than that. Yeah, no, I'm just gonna read my book, and I'm like, whatever, buddy, it's fine.

SPEAKER_02 6:00

We're joined by pot stirrer extraordinaire. Would you rather? Producer Mike, what have you got for us today, sir?

SPEAKER_00 6:07

For today, would you rather try one big scary new thing this year? Or five small new things?

SPEAKER_03 6:16

Oh, that's easy. Oh, is it? Yeah, that's easy.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

One big scary thing.

SPEAKER_03 6:21

Okay, why?

SPEAKER_02 6:22

Get it done. One thing. I know it's big and I know it's scary, but once you're done, you're done. With five, as soon as you get one done, you're like, uh, next one.

SPEAKER_03 6:32

Why are they bad things though? Like to me, five things feels like an accomplishment. Like, oh, look at all the things I get to cross off my list and all the things that we did this year, and I tried this year.

SPEAKER_02 6:44

So I'm guessing you would go for five.

SPEAKER_03 6:46

I think I would go for five because yeah, I think then I could learn five new things.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

Yeah, and and producer Mike, you said one scary and five new. Not necessarily five scary, right? Yeah, not necessarily scary. That's wrong because new is scary.

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Either way, you are petrified.

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I'm always scared in life anyway. So let's just do one scary thing. Because for me, like five new things is just putting myself out there to fail somewhere, and that's terrifying.

SPEAKER_03 7:16

Well, so I think of like a couple years ago, we had the opportunity to scale down a building downtown Columbus, and I did it, but you sat at the bottom. You didn't do it. But that would be a big scary thing, but you want to do that this year. You want to do a big scary thing.

SPEAKER_02 7:30

If I had to choose one or the other, I will choose the one scary thing, not five things. I didn't have to I didn't have to choose five things there. I could just avoid the one scary thing.

SPEAKER_03 7:44

So altogether you just prefer none of it, is what I'm hearing.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

Feet firmly planted on the ground with a cup of coffee and my dog. No, that's all I want.

SPEAKER_03 7:53

I think I'm going definitely five new things. Like I could learn how to actually make bread. That's terrible. Or what?

SPEAKER_02 8:00

That's scary.

SPEAKER_03 8:01

Making bread?

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You're gonna burn your house down.

SPEAKER_03 8:05

I'm curious where you stand then. Would you rather try one big scary thing this year or try five new things?

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Scary.

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Not necessarily scary.

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New is scary.

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Call or text to share 800-609-1049.

SPEAKER_02 8:53

I'm always shaking like a leaf, producer Mike. I'm scared in general in life. I know I shouldn't be. God is with me, and that's true. Usually I look and see how things would be worse, and now you've asked us this question today.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

Would you rather try one big scary new thing this year? Or five small new things.

SPEAKER_03 9:14

Yeah, you're just upset about it all, Josh.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

Yeah, I am. Um, if I had to choose, I would choose one big scary thing, get it over with. Get it done. Because for me, new things are scary, and so if I had to do five new things this year, as soon as I get one done, I'm like, oh good. Four more.

SPEAKER_03 9:29

I know, but think of how accomplished you'd feel to have five new things done, and maybe you've learned five new things.

SPEAKER_02 9:37

I have done scary things before. I don't feel great when it's over.

SPEAKER_03 9:42

What?

SPEAKER_02 9:42

I don't.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

Just learning something new doesn't feel good.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

I mean, learning something new is fine. Any anyway, producer Mike, we had posed this also to anybody listening. So, on the text machine, has anyone checked in yet?

SPEAKER_00 9:56

Yes. 12-year-old Curtis said, I want to do one big scary thing. There we go. Cool, like maybe skydiving.

SPEAKER_08 10:04

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

Oh. Literally.

SPEAKER_02 10:06

As I'm thinking, like that's the most deepest, scariest thing ever.

SPEAKER_03 10:10

I think it'd be so cool. No!

SPEAKER_02 10:11

Oh my word, no. If I had to choose that as my one super scary thing, then I would pick five. I'd pick five other things. I do not want to do it.

SPEAKER_03 10:21

I would totally do go skydiving. I just don't want to pay for it. No, it's expensive.

SPEAKER_02 10:25

Also, paying for things is scary.

SPEAKER_03 10:27

Yeah. I have teenagers.

SPEAKER_02 10:28

That is that is scary. Uh, thanks for calling to uh play Would You Rather one scary thing, one big scary thing this year, uh, Kristen, or five new things. What do you think?

SPEAKER_04 10:39

I've I've thought about this a lot. I feel like one scary thing or new thing for the past few years, I have actually challenged myself to do things that I never thought I would do. Oh. So I went snorkeling, which I'm scared to death of the ocean. Okay. Went parasailing. Um, the zip line.

SPEAKER_08 11:02

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:03

I've done that before. That's terrifying. That's big and scary.

SPEAKER_03 11:05

These are so fun. So, did you do one a year and that so that's the one you're going with? Or did you do a couple a year? So you did five new things?

SPEAKER_04 11:15

I've had to like talk myself into it. So it's like more like one new thing.

SPEAKER_03 11:19

Oh, okay. So you're on Josh's side here.

SPEAKER_02 11:21

Yeah, just one. Get it out of the way, and then you're done for the year.

SPEAKER_03 11:25

I'm gonna let this go and not be upset because this is super impressive. I'm I'm very impressed with your courage.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

Uh, this conversation is not my jam. Would you rather? Producer Mike did it today. You uh, producer Mike, you had asked us if we wanted to uh this year accomplish one big scary thing, which I'm always most things are big and scary to me, um, or five new things.

SPEAKER_03 11:49

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 11:50

Anna, you're at five new things.

SPEAKER_03 11:51

Yeah, it just sounds like you get so much accomplished. Learn so many things.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

I'm at one thing, and uh, we had heard from Kristen a few moments ago, who's like me, a little uh little afraid. Uh-huh. So she's like one big thing. Like, that's right, girl. Okay. You and me will tackle this thing together. Lisa, where are you at? Would you rather one big scary thing or five new things?

SPEAKER_05 12:13

Five new things.

SPEAKER_03 12:14

Oh, why is that?

SPEAKER_05 12:15

I love it.

SPEAKER_03 12:16

But what's your what's your reasoning?

SPEAKER_05 12:18

Okay. The reasoning is I I'm older and I would like to think I'm a little wiser. So five new things. You not only learn things yourself, like you said, Hannah, but others may be able to benefit from what you've learned yourself. Okay. Yeah. And Josh, I'm sorry, honey, but you just need to grow up.

SPEAKER_02 12:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 12:40

Yay!

SPEAKER_02 12:40

Well, this conversation just became big and scary. So how's this?

SPEAKER_03 12:46

Oh, you just made my day. What kind of example are you setting for your kids?

SPEAKER_02 12:53

I've told them they can accomplish anything they want. I want to accomplish a quiet evening at home.

SPEAKER_03 13:01

Resolutions aren't for everyone, and that is totally fine. They're really not for me, so I'm with you on that.

SPEAKER_02 13:08

I'm not much of a resolution person either.

SPEAKER_03 13:10

No, and not because I'm against them. I'm just bad at keeping them. So instead, a new year can just be a gentle reset, a chance to hit the refresh button on life. So I'm curious, how are you choosing to start fresh this year? You can call or text to share 800-609-1049. This comes to mind because I got just this crazy urge right as the new year came about. I had to get rid of everything.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

Are you going minimalist?

SPEAKER_03 13:43

I yeah, I mean, I'm still not even there yet, even though I've gotten rid of so much. There is something about knowing that every drawer and every cabinet in the bathroom was full.

SPEAKER_02 13:55

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 13:56

That was driving me nuts.

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You never know how much it weighs on you until you clean it out.

SPEAKER_03 14:02

Oh my goodness. I grabbed like one cabinet at a time, I grabbed everything out. And then one drawer at a time, I grabbed everything out, and I went through it all and realized I don't need 95% of what's in here.

SPEAKER_02 14:14

Torch it, backyard box.

SPEAKER_03 14:15

I really did between like I did a little giveaway pile because there were some unopened things, but then I I trashed most of it. Because I realized it has just carried with me every time I moved, and I just didn't want to deal with it.

SPEAKER_02 14:29

You don't use it, you just box it up and unload it at the new place.

SPEAKER_03 14:33

And it was the same thing for like in your bedrooms, maybe in a guest bedroom, you have a side table. I would just tape that up anytime I moved and not worry about what's in it. I would just put some tape across it and say, one room to the next house.

SPEAKER_02 14:47

Yeah, my nightstand, I think that's what you call them. It has a bunch of like all my family's birthday notes and stuff that they gave me.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

Which are sweet.

SPEAKER_02 14:56

And then all my baseball cards that I've kept are in the bottom of it. I don't need those there.

SPEAKER_03 15:00

Yeah, but those at least have some value to them. My nightstand, like in our guest bedroom, had like batteries I didn't know if they worked. It would have random coins and pens that were half full and like sticky notes and remote controls that I had no idea what they even went to. Like, when did I have that TV?

SPEAKER_02 15:18

It was the junk drawer.

SPEAKER_03 15:20

It was the junk drawer.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

But it's everywhere.

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Everywhere in my home. So I spent like a full weekend getting rid of all of it, and I truly feel refreshed. Yeah. I feel like I can start the year without this like suppressed chaos.

SPEAKER_02 15:36

There's a glint in your eye of freedom.

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And I feel like I'm not the only one who goes through that when the new year comes around. So call and share how you are starting this year fresh. 800-609-1049. The new year doesn't have to mean you need a resolution. It can just mean a subtle reset.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

It's like erasing the whiteboard.

SPEAKER_03 16:02

Yeah, yeah. It can just be a gentle refresh. Okay. So, how are you starting this year in a fresh new way? Call or text to share 800-609-1049. I shared a minute ago that I just cleaned out all of the cabinets, the drawers, and the nightstands in the house. That feels great. It felt amazing. And even though you don't see them when you walk by, I know that they're clean. Yeah. And that there's so much room in there now. And I can just breathe. But Josh, how are you starting the new year in a fresh way?

SPEAKER_02 16:37

I mean, this isn't a new idea or anything, but I I did get a daily devotional from uh that was written by Alistair Begg.

SPEAKER_03 16:43

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:44

And he does he does Truth for Life. And he's uh he's got he named Parkside Church in Cleveland. Oh. That's what he's from. Um that's more Scottish than I. Anyway, uh, so he wrote it and it's awesome. And it's every day I put it right by my coffee to make sure I do it every day, and even on the weekends, I'm doing it every day. Yeah. It's a great reset for my heart and my mind to begin the day.

SPEAKER_03 17:06

So a refresh with a fresh new daily devotional.

SPEAKER_02 17:09

Yeah, I mean, it's it's not one that uh that I even knew was coming to me, but when it was delivered, I was like, this is awesome, and it's really been inspiring over the first few days of the new year. Good. Yeah, I'd like to.

SPEAKER_03 17:20

Sometimes a refresh does just mean a refresh of the soul. Yeah, for sure. Which my soul felt a little lighter after all the clutter was gone, too, but less about Jesus. Anyway, you can call and share. How are you starting the new year in a fresh way? 800-609-1049. Erin, what's that look like for you?

SPEAKER_06 17:41

Well, I actually am currently making brownies. I decided that I was gonna get up every morning and do something. So yesterday it was laundry, today it's brownies. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 17:53

So yesterday I'm glad you didn't call, but today, with the brownies, like I'm gonna give you the studio address.

Kids With Gourmet Tastes

SPEAKER_03 18:00

Yeah. And we'll see you soon. That's such a good idea. That's good. Did you just realize that like you wanted to be more productive in the mornings? Is that how that came about? The whole day.

SPEAKER_06 18:13

Like my husband works all day, and it's not fair that he comes home and has to do stuff. So I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_03 18:20

I love that. And brownies are a great way to say welcome home. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

I love that.

SPEAKER_03 18:28

Somewhere along the way, kids stopped being picky and started being expensive. I think they've always been expensive. No, but in a new way. Like you're trying to offer them chicken nuggets and they're countering with sushi grade salmon.

SPEAKER_02 18:44

Oh, that kind of expensive.

SPEAKER_03 18:46

Yes. So what's the bougiest, fanciest food your kiddo eats like it's totally normal? You can call or text to share, 800-609-1049. And if their pinkies not in the air, then what are we even doing? Well, Josh, just came to my mind because you shared earlier this week about a report saying that kids are loving sushi these days.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

They are foregoing typical snack time. Yeah. Like you like goldfish, the crackers. Absolutely. And they're like, mm-mm, nope, I need a spring roll. They want raw fish.

SPEAKER_03 19:18

Right. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

Right.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

But then as I thought about that, I was thinking about my nieces and nephews. My niece Madison is two. And I would say once a week we get a video from my sister of the new food Madison is obsessed with.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 19:35

Here's a small list, just a fraction of the things we've been sent. Madison, the two-year-old, loves crab salad. She loves all sushi. She loves pasta, but she needs it to be spicy. Oh, for example. Her favorite is shrimp pasta Diablo. Of course it is. She is two years old. She loves Indian food, so curry is her jam. Mushrooms are her go-to. She thinks it's a great snack. But don't worry. She is fancy, but she's also two, and she's from the Midwest. Every piece of fruit she eats meets ranch dressing. Oh. So there's a balancing act there.

SPEAKER_02 20:12

I have so many questions.

SPEAKER_03 20:14

I know. Oh, that's insane. Our little bougie girl at two years old. I'm concerned for when she's five, ten, sixteen, twenty one.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

That's the thing. At least now you could like get her uh get her gift cards to Kroger so she can get some Kroger some shit.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

Absolutely. That isn't, it's like half off on Tuesdays. She can go then. Perfect. But what is the bougiest or fanciest food your kiddo eats? Call or text to share, 800-609-1049. Gone are the days when kids' meals meant nuggets, fries, a toy you lost by bedtime.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

Bedtime, that's that's going a long time.

SPEAKER_03 20:56

Now there are kids out here turning up their noses at pizza and asking for foods I didn't try until I was in my 20s. For example, my two-year-old niece Madison loves Indian food, crab salad, and shrimp pasta Diablo.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

She's two. That's insane.

SPEAKER_03 21:16

My nine-year-old niece Ella, her favorite snack is pickled onions. What? Which I do love them, but I didn't know that was a thing until like after college. I mean she's not even double digits and she's just mouthfuls of pickled onions.

SPEAKER_02 21:31

When did this start in their life? Like, how did that happen?

SPEAKER_03 21:35

Well, it's interesting because both of their parents are millennials. So I'm wondering if them are the millennial generation tries more with the foods with their kids. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

I'm not judging at all. I'm just like, my children still have not encountered most of those kinds of things. And two of them are adults already.

SPEAKER_03 21:54

It's just a different world. So what's the fanciest or bougiest food your kid loves? Call or text to share, 800-609-1049. Christy, what about your kiddo?

SPEAKER_07 22:06

Um, I would have to say anything seafood. He will eat oysters, scallops, muffles, uh squid, sushi he loves. That is just wild.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

How old is he?

SPEAKER_03 22:21

He'll be 16 in two weeks. Okay. Okay, and has he has he had a palate for this for a while now?

Laughs, Aging, And Real Talk

SPEAKER_07 22:28

He's always been into trying everything, which is totally different from me. Right? I am like the pickiest eater ever. Um my go-to is like, where's my steak and baked potato? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:40

It sounds like he's looking at the ocean going, this is soup. Get me the meat out of the soup.

SPEAKER_03 22:44

Like, I wish I would have been that brave as a kiddo. It took me a long time to work up to trying any of that oyster rams.

SPEAKER_02 22:51

Your parents' bank accounts were glad you weren't that adventurous.

SPEAKER_07 22:56

Yeah, my boosiest when I was a kid was probably tomato soup. There we go.

SPEAKER_02 23:04

News that'll make you go.

SPEAKER_03 23:05

Will we? What? Josh, what in this wacky world to be found today?

SPEAKER_02 23:09

Alright, so being older than 52 apparently is not very funny. Oh. According to a survey, 52 is the age when we start becoming grumpy.

SPEAKER_08 23:18

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 23:19

The poll found people over 50 laughed far less than younger people, and they complained far more.

SPEAKER_03 23:25

Really? You think you're like reaching an age where you're just enjoying life.

Iron Sharpens Iron: Men’s Group

SPEAKER_02 23:30

Yeah, like you're comfortable in your own skin. Your confidence. Infants laugh up to 300 times a day.

SPEAKER_03 23:37

Oh, cute.

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Teenagers laugh an average of only six times a day. Oh, that was a dramatic decline. People over 60 laugh only two and a half times a day. Men are more grumpy than women. So, all of that to say, another reason to keep it right here on the River Boarding Show. More than 2.5 laughs guaranteed. Um, asterisk. Uh, it's it's not actually guaranteed. Uh lighten up a bit, okay? Don't take us to court on that. There's a phrase in the Bible that uh gets used quite a bit when people talk about friendships. It's Proverbs 27, verse 17. It says, As iron sharpens iron, so a friend sharpens a friend. But I got to see it firsthand in my house this week. I hosted my guy friends for uh a book study, a Bible study that we're doing, and uh we encouraged each other, we laughed, we ate stuff. Nice, always a win. Somebody brought um like this deer, like it was almost like a slim gym, but it was made out of venison.

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Oh it's a bunch of manly men in there eating venison.

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Right, so we went through another chapter in the book, we prayed together, we shared together, and there were tears. Because life is hard, and it's okay to admit that life is hard and sometimes it's too hard. I mean, these are like dudes, like dude dudes, like factory worker, uh, some some of them like to hunt, like there's teachers, there's an accountant, there's a radio guy, like these are regular everyday guys. We let our guard down and we let each other in. And that's what I so appreciate about these friends of mine is that nobody is too rough and tough to really get down to it. You know what I mean? Like I was so moved, even there was a new member, like of uh half of my this group is friends from church, the other half is friends from like our kids run cross country together and stuff, and so this was his first night there, and he doesn't know my friend across the way who's currently tearing up, and he apologized. My my friend who's crying, he's like, he apologizes to the new guy, and the new guy was like, I will give you a hug right now if you need it. Like, wow, yeah, it's just cut through the stuff, man. Like, let's let's just be real. Iron sharpens iron, but I was reminded that you have to remove the walls and the barriers and get close to each other in order for that to happen. You have to touch hearts and you have to be willing to say, yes, this is what I need. This is what I want because God meets you in those moments. He met us there, and it's something that we've taken with us since then. Hey, you're invited to listen to the recording of this podcast live.

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How? Where? It's simple. You can share every weekday morning with Josh and Hannah on 1049 The River in Columbus, Ohio, or online at riveradio.com.

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