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SPEAKER_00 0:34

I guess this is the uh launch, the relaunch. Relaunch. Meet you on the porch with Lisa and Pam, Pam and Lisa. It's been a bit we're back, baby. We are back. And guess what? We're just as inept as we were before. Technology. Exactly. I didn't get any smarter with this computer in the last couple of years by any means.

SPEAKER_02 0:59

No, it took a while to even get to I could see you on camera. So congratulations. But we are back. We are back. Ben, how long?

SPEAKER_00 1:08

I don't know. I was trying to figure that out. Um I know, well, it was before, gosh, it has to be at least two years. It was before your father passed. I think so. You know, my my dad just recently passed. We've had a lot of changes in the last couple of years.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

When we started the podcast, we were we weren't doing it religiously every week, but we were doing it pretty regularly. And then not for because we didn't want to continue going, we just too many things were happening in life that we needed to take a pause. So unfortunately, that's kind of the podcast got put on the back burner because it was one of those things that even though we loved it and we enjoyed it so much, and it brought us so much joy from but it just was too much, it was overwhelming in life, but a lot has to be.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

What were you working? 16, 17 jobs? Something like that. Yeah. Now, how many jobs are you working?

SPEAKER_03 2:12

Zero.

SPEAKER_00 2:16

I can't even say it. I can't even say it online. But you had a hard time saying that.

SPEAKER_02 2:21

It did have a I was struggling. We'll talk about that. I think we need to talk about that a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

Yeah, and um, well, I'm just working one, but it's non-stop now.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

I know the tables have turned, Lee. The tables have turned.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

It really has. We we need to kind of meet in the middle somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

I know. Oh, but I am bringing, I brought a cocktail to the porch. Well, it's not really a cocktail. So is there alcohol in it? It's alcohol, yeah. 100%. Then it's a cocktail, 100%. For the listeners who don't know, I moved to France um about a year ago. And you know, we just finished lunch. It's about three o'clock, so we started, I don't know, 12, ended around three. But what I'm bringing to the porch is a simple glass of rose. And uh, you know, the summer, it's summer now, right? It's beautiful weather, it's hot. Oh, where you are. Oh, it's not hot where you are.

SPEAKER_00 3:13

Oh, it is um it's Memorial Day weekend, yeah. In in uh Rhode Island.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:20

And let's see, I'm looking at my weather right now. It is a balmy 58 degrees. Oh no, I thought it was hot, hot there. Earlier this week we had two days in the 90s. Oh and then it's the the high today, it's cloudy, it's overcast. Tomorrow's gonna rain. It's a shitty, you know, kind of very typical New England weather. It's just okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:45

Well, when the sun does pop out in New England, you'll be reaching for your bottles of rose, and you know, nothing beats it in the summer. It's so simple, it's refreshing, it's dry, it's it's just great. And then if you you know, if you get hot and you just add a couple little ice cubes, and uh the French call it a la cuisine, so like in the pool. So put a little ice cubes in it, and it will last you all afternoon. But I just missed lunch, so I'm just finishing my my glass of what will last you all afternoon, a glass or the bottle?

unknown 4:18

The bottle.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

The bottle you see that in ice cubes. I mean, the ice once it melts, you gotta start all over again. It's it's not the same, it's just a never-ending cycle. And plus, we're um plus where you are, it's it's a big rose area.

SPEAKER_02 4:33

Yeah, it's a big rose. I I live in Provence and Rose is king here in the summer, so most people drink rose. It's easy drinking wine, and um, you'll find it everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 4:45

But I'm all for the simple, you know me. That hasn't changed at all. I like it, you know, white cocktail, super, super simple. You know, two, three ingredients tops. Actually, I don't mind a complicated cocktail if I'm not making it.

SPEAKER_02 5:00

Exactly. If somebody else is making it, go for it. I actually love a cock a cocktail that has like different flavors.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

Oh, a thousand, yes. I love a craft cocktail. I don't want to do it. I just I don't know. And part of the enjoyment too is going to wherever the bar, you know, sitting somewhere nice and having them make the cocktail. I love watching them create it, yeah, and then they serve it to you in a beautiful glass, and then you're enjoying it with company, and then you just slide that empty glass back to that person, and then either to refill or walk away.

SPEAKER_02 5:32

Have you noticed, like, when you go to like a fancy cocktail bar and you get your $23 cocktail that it's so small, like a lot of times they're so small, you're like, what the heck was that? Like, that's a lot of money for a cocktail, especially like if you're in New York City and you order a little whatever, it's so expensive. I find it outrageous.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

Well, the money is yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:54

So let's let's let's catch up. Where have we been? What have we been doing since the last time we've uh done our last podcast? I think Lisa, tell me what's been going on in your life in the last couple of years, because your life has changed a lot, and so has mine. Uh for for some similar reasons and some different reasons, and it's kind of we've almost kind of flipped roles, which is very, very odd.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

It is a little bizarre, yeah. I I don't like I I don't really think that a lot has changed for me in the last couple of years, other than that I'm working all the time.

SPEAKER_02 6:27

I do. That's huge. You were not working all the time before, you were you were kind of part-time, you had a lot more free time, a lot less responsibility at your job, which is you know, you're family-owned company, so it's not like you're, you know, working for someone else, but still you are never around or available. It's unbelievable how much how busy you are now.

SPEAKER_00 6:49

Uh yeah, well, the the the business itself is very, very busy. And what ended up happening, uh, that I took on more responsibility because we used to have a bookkeeper, but I found that I was basically doing everything that she was doing. So my husband's bright idea was let's get rid of the bookkeeper. Yeah, and then it just more and more of the administration part of it, you know, stuff that he would have handled, like he just tells me to do it now because he's so much more busier, but it's still out of totally out of my wheelhouse. I'm not gonna bore you or anybody else with some of the the minutiae of it. But you know, we're we're in a residential contracting business, but we also do. Um, my son does um the hardscaping, so that means trucking, so that means department of transportation, oh nightmare. So it's just a lot of bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 7:43

Yeah, yeah. But you are you are very busy now, like where you weren't weren't before. You also had a lot of family upheaval in the last, well, actually, very recently. Um, your dad passed and your mom, you know, is definitely going through some things.

SPEAKER_00 7:59

So yeah, well, and that started the proper diagnosis or with my mother started. It was two years ago. Yeah, yeah, I guess we're coming up on two, you know, where she's diagnosed with the dementia. And which just uh anybody who's has is going through it or has a family member or a friend or anything, like you know, it's totally relatable, uh, but and it's not it's a constant evolving situation. And it doesn't get better, but yeah, it gets worse, it gets way worse. And then when my dad was sick and then he got you know fell and he got hurt, and and then the the whole thing with my mother with the dementia not being able to process it properly because that part of your brain is gone, you know, reasoning is definitely not there anymore. And unfortunately, she's um not like the sweet little old dementia lady, she's combated aggressive and oof.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

That well, I called you a few times, one time almost from jail, but that's a fun angle from your parents getting older, you know, when when they've turned on you.

SPEAKER_00 9:19

Like what happened. Yeah, and no matter how many times you say it's the dementia, it's the dementia, you can't help but take it a little personally.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

I know it's gotta be so hard. And I know there's so many people like of our age group, now that we're in our early 60s, shitty, it's shitty, who are going through it, like it's very common, and it's unfortunately more common than than not. And it just makes you think like, what are we doing in our world now that is causing all of this? There's gotta be a causation to all of this. I don't recall this being a problem decades.

SPEAKER_00 9:59

I think it was there, it was just not, you know, it there wasn't just not a label for it back then, you know, with our parents' generation. Just yeah, it just it was like the crazy old aunt or uncle or you know, but don't you feel like now it's everywhere?

SPEAKER_02 10:15

Everybody has Alzheimer's, everybody has dementia, it's like rampant. Whereas before you didn't really hear that. Like people just were old, and yes, they needed care, but they weren't like not really you didn't parade them out and you didn't talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

They just, you know, you didn't talk about family illnesses and whatever. So I yeah, I think I think it's a little bit of both. I I think it's always been there. Um, yes, I I think it there is more of it, but I think there's just a more proper diagnosis because there's just not, you know, Alzheimer's and dementia, it's just not a one size fits all. There's so many different varieties for lack of a better word for it. Uh so it's just always there. And I think you were just saying how it's it seems to be everywhere. And I think it is probably more common than not. And like with your parents, both of them were had they were all they were with it till the end. And that is seems to be the rarity now.

SPEAKER_02 11:24

Well, yeah, I mean, my mom definitely showed signs of it before she passed, but she, you know, she had an accident, so that's how she died. But I think if she had lived, and she probably would have lived a very long time, we would be in that same situation of what do you do and how do you care for your aging parents? And I think maybe we need to explore that a little bit more. Maybe we get an expert on one of these calls and maybe they can help us and help others try that.

SPEAKER_00 11:50

Yeah, well, in a while. I I still my the my wounds are still too raw from this, really.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

Okay, let's move on.

SPEAKER_03 11:57

Yeah, let's move on.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

Yeah, it just it hasn't really ended yet with uh with dad. His house was closed on on Thursday. Oh, it was, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

Oh, how are you doing with that?

SPEAKER_00 12:13

All right, you know, it wasn't the house that house had no special memories to me. It wasn't the house I grew up in, you know. Yeah, dad's house. But I knew how much he loved it. I knew how much he loved the neighborhood. We went up last weekend, um, my daughter and her boyfriend and I, and you know, to kind of do a last clean out to get some things that you know wanted. And it was a little bittersweet. Yeah, but it's it it's something that everybody has to go through it. You have to just kind of wrap it up. So yeah, and it's a penality, yeah. And I am very, very fortunate that my brother has handled all that crap, all the legal shit, all everything. And so it does pay to move away from your parents.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

Don't be the closest one to your parents.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

Don't be the closest sibling to the to the parents. Yeah, that's if that's the sage advice I'm gonna give you all. Or as us who have, we know that our children might have to some time sometime take care of us, make sure you cling to them as much as possible. If you need to follow them. I'm just worried because I'm really far away now. You are really far away, but I'm I'm thinking that maybe I could just come and live with you. There you go. And the two of us can just kind of we'll we'll get I'm just picturing the old French women, you know, with their skirts and their little cardigans and their scarves, and we'll have our market baskets and we'll be linked arm in arm, shuffling around the town, pretending that, but we're gonna pretend that we're going to market day, but we're just gonna go get drinks. That's never gonna change.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

Yeah, so basically, my big news is that I moved to France. Um, gosh, it's been a year now. We bought a little house here in Provence, and we've been fixing it up for well, it was probably like a year last March, and we moved in like the weekend before Thanksgiving. And so we've been here since then, and really have just kind of finalized the last bit of work that needed to be done here in order for us to kind of enjoy the summer and welcome more guests on a more comfortable level. So the nice thing is that we're getting a lot of visitors, like you came to visit, and you're coming back in a few weeks, really, just a few weeks. My son is coming um in on Monday for a week with his friends, and my other son is coming sometime in July. So it's been really, really nice.

SPEAKER_00 14:51

Friends you didn't even know you had will be coming. Right. That is usually the way it works. Pam, hi Pam, has been a while.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

Yeah, I'd love to see you. So that's been a big, a big upheaval. The other big upheaval for me, I also was working a lot. I had I had quite a few irons in the fire. I had a full-time job, I had the elephant branch business, which I still do. I also had my tours, I had book club, I had a lot of things going on, plus I had podcasts, there was a lot. And I kind of weaned myself away from a lot of work as we were doing that the house renovation. So, and then in February, I'm no longer working full-time. So I have a lot of time on my hands, and I'm not quite sure what to do with myself, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 15:37

Well, you kind of you really went from you know a hundred miles an hour to slow, slow, slow, slow. Yeah, it wasn't even a decline, it wasn't a steady decline. No, it seems like it was like almost abrupt.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

Well, I mean, it was it was a little bit um kind of measured. I did kind of pull back on some of the things I was doing, like some of the tours, I was slowing that down a bit just because it was a lot for me to manage, as well as the house, as well as the job, as well as having a life. And and um, so that I did pull back. Now that I'm no longer working a full-time job, yeah, I feel like I have a lot of time on my hands that I could be doing. Not that I'm not fulfilling my day. Don't get me wrong. Like, you know, a three-hour lunch takes a lot of time.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

I was just gonna mention that. I mean, that's a big chunk of your day right there. And then you gotta add in like eight, nine hours of sleeping, and then probably a nap. And it really doesn't leave you a lot of time to fill.

SPEAKER_02 16:37

So not that I don't love it, but I don't like it. Like I like to be busy, I like to have a purpose, I like to do things.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

But isn't that kind of like part of why you moved over there? Was that so you could slow down and enjoy life?

SPEAKER_02 16:51

Yeah, and I guess that brings us to like retirement, right? Like we're you know, I'm 62, so are you.

SPEAKER_00 16:57

You almost choked on that.

SPEAKER_02 17:00

Like you do have to start thinking about like retirement, but like what does that look like? It seems kind of young to be retired, you know.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

I don't well, I know I'll I'll never be in a position to retire, so I'll let you like we can't discuss that how it works.

SPEAKER_02 17:13

Yes, you will.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

Yes, you will.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

No, I won't. I think too, like I feel like I feel younger than probably A, what I look like, or B what I am. I'll give you an example. I was watching Yellowstone. Have you watched Yellowstone? The new one? The Del Ranch? The original Yellowstone. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember the character Lloyd on Yellowstone?

SPEAKER_00 17:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

Yeah. So okay. Guess how old he is in real life?

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Oh, I don't know. What he's younger than he looks. What do you think he looks like? I think he looks like he's in his 60s.

SPEAKER_02 17:57

Really? Yeah. No, I thought he was in his 70s.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

Well, how old is he? Don't talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 18:04

So in the show, they have his birthday and they're all joking with him. Like he's 70, and I'm like, oh, okay, yeah. Like he looks 70 to me. Yeah. He was and then in the show, he was supposed to be 58 years old. I'm like, no effing way, is he 58 years old? So I Googled him. He's 66.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

66. But also in the show, even though he's supposed to be portraying a younger person, that lifestyle is going to make you look older in reality.

SPEAKER_02 18:33

I don't care. He looks old. And so when I saw him, like, shit, if I saw him at a bar, I'd be like, there's that old man. Like, do we look like that? Like, is that where we're at? Not that I'm not saying he's not attracted. I'm not saying that he's not like whatever, a catch. I'm just saying I was surprised.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

Yeah, but did you look at a picture of him, not in a Yellowstone character, like what he looks like on the day-to-day?

SPEAKER_02 18:59

I don't want to be disparaging or body shame somebody, but he is an actual cowboy in real life.

SPEAKER_00 19:05

Oh, okay. Well, if he is an actual cowboy, and you know, I think that lifestyle, living outside, you're gonna get weathered, you know, your skin.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

Okay, you're missing my point. Do we look as old as him?

SPEAKER_00 19:19

No, we don't have mustaches. Well, I do. Mine's more a beard, anyhow, not a mustache.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

Yeah, I have much more of a goatee going on than a mustache. Although I do have a mustache, I have to say.

SPEAKER_03 19:39

That's not a good answer.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

So the answer is yes. We do the I don't know. I think I'm the wrong person to ask because you know, when when you've known somebody as long as we've known each other, I I and we see each other even though we live literally worlds apart now, we still see each other often. When you see somebody pretty consistently, I don't think you see them aging. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And when it's like when you haven't seen somebody in a long time, you know, that's when the oh my god, they look good, or oh my god, they look bad comes out. But when you see somebody a lot, I don't think you see that. So I'm going with no, we don't look old. We don't look our age, I even though I know I do, but it's still I think that one of that thing is part of a part about aging is that the older I get, the more I seem to not really care anymore.

SPEAKER_02 20:43

No, I don't care, but I wouldn't I don't want to look, I don't I'm not ready to look old.

SPEAKER_00 20:47

No, I'm not saying that's if I like I'm I'm not meaning I I don't care, meaning I give up. I mean like I have accepted aging. Am I am I do I like it? No, I don't like it, but it is part of it, and it's like my focus more is like I just want to feel better. You know, I just want to feel good. I don't really I'm not too worried about the wrinkles anymore. It's more like I just would like to stop aching and you know, be concentrating more on feeling better, which I think in turn helps you look better. Yeah, looking better doesn't necessarily make you feel better.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

I don't know. I think when you get dressed up or if you well mentally, okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

Yeah, and that's the mental part. Um mine is all about the physicality.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

Like I just like Do you think there's a big difference between 62 and 66? Like in terms of what's gonna happen to our bodies? Like, do you think when we're 66, are we gonna look like we're 72?

SPEAKER_00 21:54

No. What does 72 look like though? You know? Like everybody's gonna have a different voice. Version of what 72. Ask your kids what they think 72 looks like, and that's not going to be what we think 72 looks like.

SPEAKER_02 22:06

Oh, I work with well, when I was working at the agency, I worked with a lot of younger people, like in their 20s. I hired an intern to find pictures of women. We needed images of women in their 60s. That was the assignment. Go online, get images of women in their 60s. They came back. Every single one of those women looked like they were 80 to 90 years old. And I was like, oh my God. I'm like, okay, now I want you to go back and think of your mother. Like, don't think of your, this was maybe 10 years ago. Like, think of your mother. Like, don't think of your grandmother. Like, what are you doing? 60 is not that old. I don't know what's happening, but you don't look like an old grandmother with the bun on the head. Like, that's what they were pulling up pictures of.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

Well, you know, and there's a difference between 20-something year olds versus 30 something years old and you know, 40 something years old. I think your everything changes, your perception changes as as you age, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

Lloyd, I loved you as a character on on um don't come back back at it. Don't come at me. I'm sorry. I I just was surprised. But I know I don't look young, so like I have a lot of wrinkles. So come at me if you want. I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 23:22

Well, I just wanted to say to Lloyd Pierce, if he does come at us, I was the one who defended you. A lot of time in the saddle. Yeah, I like that cowboy look though.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Yeah, I do love a cowboy. I hadn't watched Yellowstone, like the ending of it. I don't know. Did you watch the whole thing?

SPEAKER_00 23:39

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

I didn't see the end, I didn't see it after John has his demise. I never saw it past that. I didn't even see when he was killed. I started to watch Dutton, and and I'm like, what the hell is going on? What do you mean he died? So I had to go back and watch the rest of the Yellowstone.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

Oh, well, yeah, but it uh would I've seen two episodes of the Dutton Ranch, and it's I'm disappointed.

SPEAKER_02 24:02

Really? Don't tell me anything. I haven't watched it yet.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

Yeah, yeah. Well, you should know that spin-offs usually are not good. Yeah. Then there's the spin-off with Casey, the other Marshall's or Marshall. Uh as far as I'm concerned, unwatchable.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

Really? Oh, that's so disappointing.

SPEAKER_00 24:21

Very disappointing. Let's let's uh kind of circle back to what we always did when we were wrapping up a podcast. What's your what is your um hot flash?

SPEAKER_02 24:33

My hot flash is so I've been trying to walk every day. I haven't been very good at it, to be honest. And I haven't been walking that far, but so the other day I took a new route. I wanted to walk up into the mountains. And so I I kind of went a different way. I went down this little, like this little back road, and definitely had houses on it. It was like it was like in the village center. So little village road, houses on either side. I'm walking now. Obviously, I wasn't thundering down the street because this person did not hear me. But as I walk up to this, like down the road, there's a house on the right-hand side, and the gate is open, like where you would normally pull in to park your car. And there's a man standing there outside in his front door with his full penis out peeing in his front yard. And I'm like, I can entire see your entire penis. Like it wasn't like his back was turned and he was trying to do it privately. He was just pissing out his front door, which is totally fine. More power to you, but close your gate. Close your gate. And it's just amazing to me, like how many that how commonplace that is here in this A in this area, but really all throughout France. Men just pull over anywhere and pee pee. I have no problem with men peeing wherever they want. I don't really think it's a big deal, but I don't want to see your penis. Like it was a full-on shot. And I didn't know what to do. Like I just kept walking, and I looked at him. He looked at me. I was like, I'm just gonna keep walking.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

I'm gonna keep walking. And as you go by, he probably says, fucking American. Nope, nobody walks here.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

No, no, he gave it a little wiggle and he waved at me.

SPEAKER_00 26:16

No, we little helicopter.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

Oh god, what do you have for hot flat?

SPEAKER_00 26:26

So I again work, have access to emails, you know, to my son's emails and oh and because work. I am always on on the emails from you have access to everybody's emails at work. Yeah, because they re receipts are sent over, inquiries are sent over. So um, you know, it if it's I don't have I don't know if he has a personal email, but I'm on I go on it all the time. I see emails for a booking for Airbnb in North Conway this weekend. Oh he's he's kind he's a private person, but at the same time, if I ask him questions, he has never has not answered me. I think it's just him, he doesn't think to tell you anything.

SPEAKER_02 27:12

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:13

But my husband thinks that you know he's trying to be private, which is so not the case. It's just he my son just doesn't think to tell you anything.

SPEAKER_02 27:20

So hold on. So he booked a weekend away. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

Oh didn't we have he didn't tell us he went away, and then this morning uh my husband goes to um text him, and somehow they're on your text he can see where his location is.

SPEAKER_02 27:39

Oh right.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

Which neither one of them had any idea about. So here's another one, like detectives, both of them, you know, pretty sneaky. So yeah, we can see that he's in up up in North Conway. And then when my husband gets to work, there's um, you know, there's a white Jeep there, which doesn't belong to anybody that we know of. So he looks inside and he sees a pay stub inside of the girl that we know that he went with. A little detective work on your side. So so I'm like, uh, I said to so when my husband told me that, I said, okay, all right, you know what? Uh that just leaves it open for an Inquisition. He didn't try to hide it. You know, it's not like he leaves the car there. Oh, come on. So with the door unlocked? Door was I don't think the door was no, it must have been locked. I don't know. Maybe my husband was looking inside to like see if he could tell whose vehicle it was or something. You know, um, then he saw he recognized the name of this girl who that we've heard about, but so when I told my daughter and she goes, they got back together? I go, I didn't know they were together.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 28:52

So yeah. So anyhow, my point is is that when I see my son next week, bombardment.

SPEAKER_02 29:03

I love it. That's so good. Yeah, because you can't like he's probably not trying to be secretive, he's just not telling you. So if you asked him, he'll tell you.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

And now I just want to bust balls because he didn't tell us that he went away this weekend. So I want to call him up and say, Hey, I'm gonna cook out. Do you want to come over? Or uh, you know how you said you would plant that tree? I get it. Could you come over and dig a hole? Yeah, just uh just like to see what he would say.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

Give him some grief.

SPEAKER_00 29:30

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

That's hysterical. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I think that's all fair. If he wanted to be secretive, he wouldn't have her park the car in your lot, he would have done it to myself. So by doing that, he wants you to ask, he wants you to dig a little deeper.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

I don't think he's that clever. I just don't think he thinks about it, you know.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

Oh, that's good. Okay, well, let us know how that investigation goes. I'm very curious now. Okay, Lee, I think that does it for us this week. I think so. It's great to be back, it's great to chat with you, and uh be back hopefully next week. We can pull our act together. No, we'll we'll we will be back next week with a new episode of Meet You on the Porch. Thanks for sticking with us.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

Okay, goodbye, everybody. Bye.