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How to manage life’s little annoyances

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Lisa and Pam are discussing ways to combat life’s little annoyances. Cocktail conversation introduces Summer 2026 cocktail and a Rhode Island favorite. Hot Flash has the ladies going off the grid. Listen and like for all of the fun.
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SPEAKER_02

Well I did say to say somebody the other day, like, I would love to live off the grid as long as I have electricity running water and internet.

SPEAKER_01

How do you learn how to do anything unless you Google it? We're gonna be stuck.

SPEAKER_03

Welcome back, everybody. It's Pam and Lisa, your lovely co-host for Meet You on the Porch. Hi. See what I did there? We're both lovely.

SPEAKER_02

We're both how are you today in in lovely Provence?

SPEAKER_03

I'm okay. You know, definitely things, you know, there's just a like a list of crap that I'm trying to get through. And I don't know. It's a little annoying and frustrating.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's a step up from last time we spoke when you said you were basically had nothing to do. So at least you at least you have crap now.

SPEAKER_03

I know, at least I have stuff that's gonna drive me crazy. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_02

Uh well, uh frazzled. I'm having a day, and it's what time is it? 6 47 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. And my day has always already gone sideways.

SPEAKER_03

So no. Oh no. Well, um, I know it's a little early for a drink, but do you did you get the plug video?

SPEAKER_02

It it really isn't because there are such a thing as breakfast cocktails. There you go. Right? Like, I mean, you can legally get away with mimosas and bloody Marys. It's funny on when I was driving into work yesterday listening to the radio station, they had this whole little bit about summer cocktails. There always seems to be like a summer cocktail happening. So they were, I guess I did a poll with some bartenders and they were talking about what are the summer drinks going to be. And the first one that came up was a gimlet. And I was like, oh my god, that's so funny because the other night somebody I was with had a gimlet, and I hadn't thought about a gimlet in a very long time. But what a nice classic simple drink. And I am, you know, all about the simple drinks, yeah. And and and I'm a gin lover, not everybody is. Yes, but I think one of the key things with a a good gimlet is the type of gin that you get, because not as we know, all gins are taste the same, so more along that botanical style of gin. So something with a lot of flavor. Yes, you know, do not do a gimlet with a tangerai. Uh gin. I would yeah, you know, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Drink good gin. If you're gonna drink gin, you gotta drink good gin.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. So um actually, the the ones that I'm gonna make later today are gonna be the gin that I picked up in Provence. Because that was that lavender gin. Oh, wow, that's gonna be delicious. I thought that would be very nice. But you know, the and another key thing is it's gonna be fresh lime juice. You can't get it out of a little squeezy thing or a bottle of lime juice. I mean, I've gone that route before, obviously, but what a difference it makes when you use the fresh and and make your own simple syrup. And and there you go, bingo. Gin, fresh lime juice, simple syrup, put it in a shaker, pour it in a glass.

SPEAKER_03

Start drinking. Start drinking. I like that. I love a gimlet. Those I love that fresh lime juice. The more lime, the better for me. I love a lot of lime, and it's refreshing. I guess you can make really make it to your taste. Like if you like a sweeter drink, put more sugar in it. If you like it tartar, put more lime in it. If you just want gin, just pour a glass of gin.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and on that whole uh radio thing that I was listening to yesterday, they were talking about like the cucumber gimlet, which I almost threw up because cucumber, cucumber water, cucumber, yeah. I like cucumbers as a cucumber, maybe in a salad, but that's where it ends for me. I don't want to drink it. And but I guess a cucumber, for some people, fine, a cucumber gimlet. And then I just did a really quick Google search on variations of gimlets. So many. I think my favorite one, which I know you would absolutely love, wink wink, uh, meaning you won't, is with the elder flower.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah, I don't like a floral. But I do, it's funny, I do love cucumber-flavored things, but I don't like eating cucumbers.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, we're opposite. And then here in here in um New England, I think probably more Rhode Island, is like the clam cake is uh a very summer item.

SPEAKER_03

No, wait, don't they call them what are the little balls that they call them in there? They call them clam cakes. Oh, they're clam cakes. I thought they were like something else. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

No, clam cakes. So, and it's one of those things, you know, every year. I'm like, oh, they smell good, they look good. I have to get my clam cake, have to have it every year. And Saturday night we went went down to my daughter's and she's on the was on a town on the water. So we went to this great seafood iconic place that like the chowder and the clam cakes, and you know, all kinds of good seafood, and like and the clam cakes were the size of tennis balls. Really? And they weren't heavy, so that's when you know like they're not drenched in oil because they're deep fried. So hold on a second.

SPEAKER_03

So a Rhode Island clam cake is shaped like a ball big, yeah, small, medium, yeah, different than a crab cake, which is like a flat patty. Because I'm thinking when you say clam cake, I'm thinking like a flat patty, but I but I know in Rhode Island they sell those ball things, so that's the same thing. We're talking about the same thing.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, yeah, yep, yep, yep. And um, you know, so I ate it and I'm like, yep, still don't really like them, but I have it every summer, various places, you know, and um, yeah, just I'm like, it's just it's just fried dough with some clams in it. I don't get it, but everybody rants and raves about it. So I'm like, I gotta be missing out, right? Yeah, there's gotta be a clam cake out there that hooked everybody in at one time, and I just need to find it, and then I'll be like, oh yeah, I get it. You're right. But after living in in this state for you know over 30 years, and I've had various clam cakes. No, they're not not. But I will I will continue yearly to have a couple of things. Yeah, I mean I think it's a pilgrimage every year for the journey, yeah, and then next year you do it again. And it's and it's how you know it's summer too. Like I would never think of having a clam cake, and they sell them all year long, but I would never think of having one fall, winter, or spring. It has to be in summer. So that's that's some of what I've been up to this last couple of weeks. What well, since we last talked. How about you?

SPEAKER_03

How was your you went from zero to Yeah, not it's not really busy, just it's it's those things that kind of crop up in your life that take time and are super, super annoying. And I have one of those in my life right now. I have a couple of those things right now. The first one is so frustrating, and it has to do with um insurance and coverage of insurance and trying to get somebody on the phone to give you an answer of when my insurance ended and how much I paid in premiums. It's like I'm asking for the codes to nuclear bombs. They won't give it to you, they don't know, they give it to you, it's wrong. Then I call back, I get another number, I just keep calling back. It's like, oh my god, this isn't that hard. I can see it on my statements. Why can't you just verify these amounts? No, we can't we can't verify amounts. We have to elevate, escalate this, you know. Yeah, to the next year. Yeah, convoluted when it's so simple. You know, it's so simple. I spoke to this one woman yesterday, and she told me I paid $250 for this insurance premium in March. And I went, Really? I think it's $2,500 for a pre-back. And she was like, No, it's $250. I'm like, would you mind just checking that again? No, I'm not going to do that. That's what she said to me. I'm not going to do that. I was like, what? She's like, I'll have to elevate this to my manager. I'm like, why can't you just look again? Now I'm getting like hot, you know. She's like, no, I won't do it. She just refused to do it. So I hung up with her and I called back. And you know how you get the thing like, press two if you'd like to leave a survey after this call. Well, yeah, the first time I said no, but the second time I said yes. And who do I get the second time? Not her again. The same woman. I mean, what are the odds? Yeah. So I asked her the question. I said, I just called you and you wouldn't re-look at it. Will you look at it now? Yes, I'd be happy to. What? Am I getting pumped? What the heck is going on? I'm like trying to be so nice and sweet and like not lose my temper. And I'm like, oh my god, I just spoke to you four minutes ago and you refuse to do it. Maybe because it's a new call, and then they listen to you know, now they now she can justify, like, and her mean you know how like they always say it's recorded so for quality. So maybe she could, you know, look back and say, Well, I already answered her question and whatever, I didn't want to answer it again. But this time she that's the only request I had, so she had to be she can't say no, right? Yeah, she can look. So she looked and she verified the correct number, but it's it's that minutia that is making it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, how much time did that take?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah, oh my god, because I had a call, you had to wait for a callback, and you know, that took it took like an hour at least. It was such a simple, simple thing. And one would think then I got the call back for the survey. I didn't annihilate her, but I did express my opinion of how ridiculous and a waste of time this is, and how you can't even get basic information. Basic information. Was it a live survey or a recorded survey? It was like, was your question answered? No. Did you expect your question to be answered? Yes. Yes, would you like to leave any comments? Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah. And then you wonder, right, if they bother listening or not.

SPEAKER_03

Well, you know, once you start complaining on a recorded line, because you're not really talking to anybody, I think they probably think most of most people are just like frustrated and angry. You know what I mean? Like they're they're not you're you're not getting the best of humanity when you get when you ask for that.

SPEAKER_02

I do remember um going back a few years with our health insurance company, and I was having an issue and I took a survey, but it was online, and you know, you had to type in everything. Yeah. And I probably did it because I was frustrated, because that's when you like you just you need to vent. Yeah. So e even if it's on a keyboard, I got a call back. Really? I did get a call back from a supervisor, and they he really did end up taking care of the problem. I was prorated a month or two, if I remember correctly. And you know, it it's it was something about billing it when it started and when my billing started, and and it was but I was really surprised to get a call back. So I guess yeah, some places are at least listening, maybe responded. But when you said when you called back the second time, and first time, no, I don't want to survey, second time, yes, I want to survey. I wonder if the the the the customer service person has a way of knowing that, yeah, they're gonna take a survey on this phone call, and maybe that's why she was so nice.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yes, you're probably right. Of course, they have a little like red light flashing. Beware, beware. Yeah, curious to know that. Oh, that's right. That's a very good point.

SPEAKER_02

And then I was told by somebody else a long time ago that, well, where she worked at least, anyhow, always uh recorded line, and she said you should always ask for, and I forget which the term is now, but you you could say, Well, how do I know this is being recorded? Like, if I needed to recall back and refer to this recording, what is it? Like, what's the transcription number or something? That's a good idea.

SPEAKER_03

So that to make them aware that you're yeah, because uh part of the whole problem was, and the reason why I called was because I had called a few times before and I kept getting different dates of when the coverage started and stopped. And I need that for some other paperwork that I'm struggling with. So um, so I need the exact dates, and every time I call, I get a different answer. And that was actually something I said to her. I said, Well, listen, I've called back on these dates. She's like, and I asked these specific questions and I keep getting a different answer, and you're now giving me a third different answer. And she goes, Yes, I can see you called, I can see you called, but that's a really good point. I could have said, please pull up transcript number, whatever. And you can see that you gave me this information because it's all wrong. Nothing getting anything wrong.

SPEAKER_02

If they can see that you called, a lot of times they can go and read what has happened because that that uh that's happened recently with um another situation at work where uh uh it it took it took five five or six months to get a canceled workman's comp from a policy, an existing policy to be flipped over to a new policy. It took me six months to get them to cancel it. Wow. And and every time I called, I said, here's the confirmation number transcript. No, whatever. Like somebody had given me a number. Please go read this before I have to go repeat myself. So they go, okay, and they put me on hold. And I'm on hold for a while because it's a very long transcript at this time. And then they would come back and, like, oh, okay, I see. I go, yeah, I get that every time I call. Oh, oh, yeah, I see, but nobody ever seems to be able to resolve this.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's it's incredibly, incredibly frustrating. My my son just came here and he, you know, Ubers to the airport. He gets to the airport and he's at the gate, and about an hour before they are to leave, he gets a notification from the ground crew or whatever that they're canceling the flight. So he's like, oh my god, like now I have to go back home. It's another 125 euros or dollars to go back home, you know, with an Uber. And I have to come back in in tomorrow and do it all over again. And, you know, and he had hotel reservations here when he was landing that he wasn't able to use and wasn't able to get a refund. So he's like, Well, you know, I'm never gonna get my money back. I'm like, yeah, you probably are gonna get your money back. But he called us yesterday and they're giving him a full refund, plus all plus additional money for the cancellation of the flight. So I couldn't believe it.

SPEAKER_02

That's in Europe. You're not gonna get that here in the United States.

SPEAKER_03

So sometimes I guess the the frustration of calling and getting through to people works, and sometimes it just doesn't, but it's incredibly annoying.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, I know like some you just don't know who you're gonna get on the other end of the phone. So I always try to start off like almost sugary sweet, you know, because I don't because they literally have your life in their hands. That's what I feel like, you know. They can they can do whatever they want. So I I don't know if I might have mentioned it the last time we spoke, but um with the Department of Transportation, the DOT, and there's something our our number has been um suspended because of basically it was a clerical error on their end. But to get it rectified, uh, you just have to file this form. But to file this form, you need to put in your email. Well, we've only had the number for two years, so this is the first time the renewal has come up. When it was initially set up, the email was left out a K in the email, so it's a non-existent email. So all I kept so all I kept saying was you go like, you know, have send the password to the email or look at your email, like oh, the email doesn't exist, right? I was getting so frustrated. And finally, I got this guy last week or the week before, Alex. Alex, I'm not gonna say his last name, Alex, who works for the D DOT in Washington, DC. I told him yesterday I'm flying down just to take you out to dinner because he was so helpful. But Alex and I became very, very good friends because once I had his number, his direct line. Oh, whoa, poor Alex. He probably was regretful that he gave me that number. But he was also, he goes, I knew his direct personal cell phone number? Well, the I guess the direct line his direct line to him, and it actually was a direct line to him.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, yes. Wow.

SPEAKER_02

And I think he took it on as a challenge, and he really did. And he called me back without me having to call him. But this went on it well, it was like a week. To I go, Alex, how difficult is this to change the email? Yeah, he goes, Well, I can't do that, I have to escalate it.

SPEAKER_03

Of course you do. Oh my god, it's uh it's mind-boggling how anything gets done. It's painful. My husband had a credit card that got renewed. You know, we're here in France. So they said, Oh, it got sent to the house, you know, our US address. So he's calls the company, he's like, I'd really like you to send it to my address here because I won't be there for whatever time. And they're like, Um, sure. So they gives the address and they put it in their system. They're like, Yeah, sorry, that address does not exist in our system. And he's like, Well, that's where I live, so I don't know what you want me to tell you. So they were like, No, it's not a known address. He's like, Well, it is my address. I get mail here all the time. So they're like, Okay, we can send it to an address, but somebody has to be there to sign for it. So he's like, Well, so they wouldn't even put it in the system because the system wouldn't recognize it as an illegal address. So we have a friend that we had our have it mailed to, but nobody was the address we used, nobody was there when they came to deliver the mail, so it had to go back. So we went back, he never got the card. So it didn't just go back to the post office, it went to the case. Return mail. So he calls again. So they're like, someone has to be here, and so he gives our address, and somehow he convinces the person to put the address in, regardless of the fact that it's not in the system, does not recognize whatever, and someone has to be there. Okay. So it was like the final day that he had to give it until it, you know, he could call again and try to send it someplace else, to maybe like respond or something. And I open up the mailbox, and there it is in the mailbox. Like nobody had to sign for it. It was an actual address, it got mailed just like a regular mail. What's with all the BS, right? Like, what is with all the BS? Like, it's ridiculous. It's enough to make you cry sometimes.

SPEAKER_02

It really is, it's very frustrating. Like any any time that you you know, when it is. I deal with this weekly with work, having to call a company. And the first thing I want to do is pour myself a drink, get ready, and then make the phone call. And then it's almost like okay, clear the decks, everybody. I put a post out, I go, I'm gonna be getting on the phone, nobody call me, nobody text me, don't come into my office, because I know it's gonna be a long, drawn-out affair. You know, very rarely is it anything quick, but you can only do most of this stuff during, you know, whatever the business hours are, but I also have to conduct business during those business hours. So you're kind of in a quandary of like once I get somebody on the phone and and my other line's ringing, I'm like, yeah, I gotta let that one go. Because I have a live person and you know, you can leave a message or I'll call you back. It's enough to break anyone, I think. Oh, it is. It's it's just and and then when your whole day starts out like that puts you already in a defensive mood, right? And you just know that the day, if it starts off sideways, it usually doesn't correct. And I think it's the energy that you put out that just kind of brings more crap your way for the day.

SPEAKER_03

Let's take a minute and only put out forward-facing positive energy for the rest of the day.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I I was just gonna comment on the fact that by us getting uh on the podcast this morning, I might have already reset my mood because I, you know, I've had a couple giggles already, and I'm just like I I've kind of like I'm not thinking about work, so I've already my my anxiety has already kind of come down. Yeah. But anyhow, I just I I am already in a better, I feel already in a better situation. So maybe that is something to think about in the future when like when your day starts going sideways, right? You for yourself or me or whatever, because it always will like take a step back. I'm always yelling at my husband to just pause for five minutes and have a reset. And then because then every it snowballs. So I need to take my own advice.

SPEAKER_03

I think that's really good advice. You do need to just step away from it for a minute because the more you keep trying to fix it or get to the bottom of it, the more frustrating it gets. Just yeah, piles and piles, like you said, snowballs. So very good advice. Like just remove yourself from the situation, do something completely different. You'll come back at it with a fresh point of view. And you know what? What happened with me when I called back? All the answers are right there, just right back.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because sometimes that like that pause saves you a lot of time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Really, right? Just like kind of step back, gather your thoughts, take some deep breaths. You you're a little, you can think a little clearer. And call your friends. Call your friends. Go on. Do a podcast.

SPEAKER_03

Do a podcast. Well, hopefully that's some good advice, and we can actually put it into practice because definitely we need to be able to kind of control these types of moments in our lives. But what do you have for a hot flash today, Lee?

SPEAKER_02

Well, you know, what you just said, it is a practice. You know, when when you want to make any kind of changes or you think about what you're going to do, like, oh, I'm going to do this from now on. And it doesn't happen. So you get frustrated and you give up, right? So I think I'm going to swing back to that word that you just said was practice. So a couple of weeks ago, because work is always so um, I always said, you know what, every afternoon I'm gonna go out into my garden and just even if I putter, even if it's for, you know, a few minutes, half hour, hour or whatever, because it's in the uh just you know, getting everything in and everything situated. So there is a little bit of work to do. But um, I do I notice that whether it's gardening or you know, going for a walk or you know, reading a book or you know, whatever, if you're intentional about something, it really can help you. I don't know what the word I'm looking for. Just I I I guess I want to end the day not so flared up as I spend the day. But and then so I so I do it, and I'm like, oh yeah, that's amazing, it works. And the next day it's like, yeah, I don't feel like going out in the garden today, you know, you know type of thing. So like it that it has to become a practice, like being mindful, like to to help me decompress or or whatever you want to do. It's something like, okay, you can come up with something, but you have to be mindful and practice on doing it consistently in order to see any of the results and not get frustrated saying, like, you know, it's it's been a week and I'm still frazzled. It's like after a while, perhaps it will become more of like that habit and something to look forward to. Now, this whole gardening thing, eventually it's gonna get to the point where it's just like hopefully I'm gonna have have to open the farm stand at the end of the driveway because all the produce coming in. But right now it's just like you know, my little baby plants, and I go out and I talk to them and I see how much they grow, and eventually it's gonna get to the point where you don't really have to do anything.

SPEAKER_03

No, you can move off the grid then. You don't have to live on the grid anymore.

SPEAKER_02

That's right. That's what I said. Gonna open the Frenchie farm stand and you know, bring in all the money. I only have, I don't even know how many tomato plants, but I should be making lots of tomato salad and tomatoes and tomatoes and tomatoes.

SPEAKER_03

This is your practice for now, but what happens in the winter when there's no garden plant?

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's well, that's what I was saying, you know, kind of alluding to like eventually that's going to evolve into something else. Winter, I don't know yet. Um, that's maybe another thing is not trying to go too far in the future because you can get like overwhelmed with something that's not even on the horizon to happen. So let me just focus on the now and it'll evolve into something else.

SPEAKER_03

Nice. So it's working for you.

SPEAKER_02

Right now it is. Well, how about you? What's your hot flash?

SPEAKER_03

Well, mine is uh something that I've noticed has been happening with me since I moved here, and I actually have been so loving it. And I don't do this really in the US, but I would if I had the same natural resources. I have been doing a lot of foraging and drying my own herbs and drying my own flowers. So yesterday or the day before yesterday, I was sitting in my garden, it was first thing in the morning, it was nobody around. Oh, it was like I was surrounded by hundreds of birds. Like it was yeah, I felt like snow white. Like they were everywhere. Yeah, and and then I looked up, I have a big linden tree in my yard, and it's I don't know if they grow in the in the northeast linden trees, but I'm gonna look that up. You've heard of it. Yeah, it's really pretty tree, it's full of these yellow flowers, these little like clusters of flowers, and I had thousands of bees in the tree above me. So it was like literally there was a buzzing. So the smell is so intoxicating, it's like jasmine and honey combined. It's unbelievable the scent. It's so fragrant outside in my yard because this tree is huge, it's like a two-story tree, and it's it, you know, fills the whole terrace. Anyway, so I did my little Google search, and you can you can use the flowers of the Linden tree for tea or a tisan. So I I was like, I'm in. So I have started cutting a hole. So I have like a nice big jar of the flowers that I'm that I dried in the sun, and um gonna use them in teas. Supposedly, they have a great calming effect. So after you get frustrated on your phone calls, you can have a little bit of linden tree flower tea.

SPEAKER_02

But so uh like want to interrupt you for a second. Is it is it you add it to your tea or it becomes a tea? It's like chamomile.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, like that, you know, when you get by re and I always say that word wrong. Is it chamomile, chamomile? Well, it's it's meal as far as I yeah, I chamomile is what I thought too. So, but I think it's wrong. I think it's chamomile. But, anyways, chamomile tea is the same, like you get if you ever get like that the good chamomile tea, it's like little buds of flowers that are dried up when you put the water when they open up. So that's what I have for it's just the buds of the flowers, and supposedly it has incredible relaxation um benefits.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, so how long to you dry to drying, how long does it take to dry to use? Oh, it dried outside in like a less than 24 hours. Okay, so you should be having it soon. Well, I did uh use some of your thyme last night when I made my dinner that you foraged.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah, I did forage for thyme. Yeah, and I also foraged for fennel. So here in Provence, it grows wild. Fennel grows wild and thyme grows wild. So early spring, I went out and cut a whole bunch of thyme and dried a big how was it? Was it delicious?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, I was thinking, God, how can I brag as I'm using this thyme for just me and my husband? And so I said to the dogs, hey guys, I'm sure they were impressed.

SPEAKER_03

So the thyme is like, you know, it's all kind of like a woody little stem, and you cut it, and it's pretty rugged stem. It's not like the thyme you get in the grocery store on the stem. That's not that rugged of a stem. This is like wood. So you you get it and you dry it, but that takes that took like almost a week at least to have that laid out. Yeah, I can see that. You have to wash it, then you gotta spin it dry, then you gotta let it air dry. And I it was it was early spring, so it rained a lot. I couldn't put it outside. Yeah, and um, it took a long time to dry. The same thing with the fennel, so fresh spring fennel, you can cut and use the stalks. I use it for like a base to when I grill fish, like a whole fish, but then the fennel fronds you can cut and dry and use it all year long on fish or whatever you're whatever you're making. So I've been really enjoying the the foraging process. Yeah, there we go. I'm looking forward to the fall when the fennel is the flower dried out, and you can cut all the flowers off, and then you get the seeds. You harvest the seeds out of nature's just giving.

SPEAKER_02

It's just giving between my farm, my farm, my garden, and your foraging, we will have life skills to survive off the grid.

SPEAKER_03

It is pretty amazing that every little thing really kind of provides. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I did say to say somebody the other day, like, I would love to live off the grid as long as I have electricity running water and internet.

SPEAKER_01

Because how do you learn how to do anything unless you Google it?

SPEAKER_03

Of course, we're gonna be stuck. Yeah. Yesterday I saw there was this little bee on the bumblebee who fallen, must have fallen from the tree. I don't know what it was doing on the ground, but it couldn't get back up. Like I'm watching it and it's struggling. You know, it's like kind of on its back, kind of on its side. It's flipping, it's flipping, but it never got on its feet. And I'm like, come on, like you can do it. I'm like encouraging this little teeny bubble bee. I'm like, come on, you can do it, you can do it. Like he was struggling. I'm like, I can't watch this anymore. So I went and got a little piece of paper and I picked him up and I put him on the tree and he walked right off onto the branch. It was fine as could be. I'm like, why couldn't you do that on the ground? I didn't understand. It was really weird. Yeah. But I saved a bee, a bumblebee. That's nice, that's nice.

SPEAKER_02

Glad you did that. Communing with nature. Yes, that's right. We are so ready for the grid. No, off the grid.

SPEAKER_01

Off the grid, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Because now we're raising, we're gonna be raising bees and honey. All right, well, um, I know your day is more than half over. My day is just beginning. Yeah. I gotta go, I gotta go fight the fight.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, good luck with you. Remember, if it gets too much, take a take a breath. Yeah. Okay, let me talk to you next time. All right, bye. Okay, bye. Bye, everybody.