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Is Using AI a Life Hack or Just Cheating?

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Welcome back to Meet You on The Porch with your favorite hosts, Lisa and Pam! Tonight, the ladies are meeting on the porch for an all-new episode tackling a modern dilemma: Is using AI everyday cheating at life?

From writing assistance to daily shortcuts, the tech world is changing fast, and the ladies are using these new tools more than ever. But is it a helpful resource or just the lazy way out? Tune in as they weigh the pros and cons during their signature Cocktail Conversation (wait until you hear what Pam brought to the porch tonight!). 

Finally, wrap up the evening with a asking for help during Hot Flash.

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SPEAKER_01

And that's why I have stopped thinking because it took a colossal amount of energy and it produced a lot of heat. So I said, let me just stop thinking and then I'll be cool and comfortable and do you're right. Like don't overdo yourself. Well, hello everybody, and welcome back to another riveting episode of Meet You on the Porch. I am co-host Lisa, and I am with my other co-host. Pam, hi Lee, how you doing? Good, good. How are you today? I'm good. Thank you. I mean, it's very early in the morning, so if it wasn't good, it would be a rough start to the day, don't you think?

SPEAKER_00

I love getting up early and being productive. I love it. Love it. Love it.

SPEAKER_01

You're a morning person.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but I'm not like you. I don't get up at four. I get up like, but you know, I get up, you know, six o'clock. It's great. Like you just can get so much more done.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, I am sleeping a little later these days now that um some of the stress that I was going through with, you know, my parents has diminished. And I'm not saying I'm sleeping in because, you know, five o'clock is woo-hoo! Usually my time I'm up, but I I do. I love getting up in the morning early. I love that quiet and solitude. I like, I'm not, I was never one to like just get up, get dressed, and go off to work. I like a little bit of downtime. And I know it's weird to some people when you're like, well, you've been down all night. Why do you need more downtime? I just kind of need that little bit of I don't know what you want to call it, but I just kind of love that solitude and quiet. Drink my coffee, scroll you, take the dogs for a walk, and then tackle the day.

SPEAKER_00

I agree. I think what I was gonna use that word solitude. It's being just in your own space and just thinking like of your day having your coffee. It's like the little rituals you do in the morning. I always sit and listen to the birds. That's what I I love to do.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, I like to go out on the porch and do that.

SPEAKER_00

And I use my Merlin Bird Identifier app. Do you know about that?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, you've told me about that. You showed it to you. Such a great app. It's so fun. Yeah, I keep uh I keep saying that I'm gonna do it. And then, like right now, I'm I gotta get that. And then of course I'm gonna forget about it later on.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I usually wake up to the birds, and so that's what triggers me to go, what bird is that? Because that woke me up this morning, and then I look it up, and that's how I go down that listening to the birds. I love it.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I love in the morning. And solitude in the morning, that quiet, is completely different than any other time of the day, as far as I'm concerned.

SPEAKER_00

It's a full because the morning, it's the morning, it's just like because it feels so full of possibilities and hope and and positivity. That's why. Because you're like, it's a new day, it's gonna be fantastic, and then you get the then you check your emails, and then you go check the mail, and it all goes downhill, or go to work, and yeah, it's all downhill from there.

SPEAKER_01

But I do have something to look forward to at the end of my day. Me too. Yeah, we're getting together again tonight for dinner, and so it does give us something nice to look forward to.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I've been thinking about what I'm going to drink because I know we're going out to dinner, I think. So I was like, oh, what kind of drinking do I want? Like, what am I gonna drink? So I've been looking at the skinny, spicy margaritas. Do you like a skinny, spicy margarita?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, well, that's the tequila, right? Yeah, and I'm not a huge tequila fan.

SPEAKER_00

So you don't like margaritas? Not particularly. Really? I like the spicy ones when they have a little jalapeno in it and a little Well, I was with you one time.

SPEAKER_01

We went to a Mexican restaurant, and I got a uh one made with vodka, and you got the spicy one, and it was so spicy.

SPEAKER_00

Do you remember that? Yeah, she that was hysterical. This isn't a good, that was not a good representation of a spicy margarita. It was like a regular margarita, and she muddled maybe 10 jalapenos, right? And literally, as I'm drinking, there was like chunks of jalapeno in my mouth. Like it's a salad now at this point. It was disgusting. And it was way too spicy. But I like it when it's just enough of that little hint and, anyways, this is how I like them. So I don't know if you know that that spice mix called tahine. You know that tahine. It's spicy that you rim the glasses. So we're gonna do that. So we're gonna need two ounces of tequila, some fresh lime juice. Again, emphasize on the word fresh, about three tablespoons or one and a half ounces, about two tablespoons of orange juice. Again, I would do fresh. I guess you could use jarred orange juice, but why would you do that?

SPEAKER_01

Well, we talked about this before that those fresh squeezed juices, lemon, lime, orange, grapefruit, whatever it may be, makes a huge difference and like a night, night and day difference in a drink.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I yeah, 100%. Okay, then we're gonna add some sweetener. So you could use agave nectar or honey or simple syrup if you have it. So, like about a one to two teaspoons of that, depending on how sweet you like it. Two to three slices of jalopino. So you don't need to go over if you didn't make a salad out of it. And a limes and the tahine seasoning. Or if you don't have tahine, you could just do salt like a regular margarita. So, what you're gonna do is you're gonna put the tahine into a onto a small plate and then wet the rim of the glass by rubbing a lime around the edge of the top of the of the glass. And then you're gonna dip the glass into the tahine. So you could do like one side. Some people, you know, you see in the restaurants with like one whole side which they've covered it with, and then it's all over your hands. I like it just on the top. And then fill the glass with ice, and then the cocktail shaker, you're gonna mix all the rest of the ingredients the tequila, the lime juice, the orange juice, whatever sweetener you have, and the jalapeno slices. And you're going to fill it with ice, shake it, and then strain it into your tahine-rimmed glass and garnish with lime. It's delicious. I break it over ice. I'm confused. What makes it skinny? That doesn't have that um margarita mix, you know, that lemon lime syrup.

SPEAKER_01

So it's like a yeah, I think it's a lot of it. Yeah, it has a lot less sugar.

SPEAKER_00

It only has like a teaspoon of honey or a teaspoon of agave. So very low on sugar, fresh juice, a little spicy. You get the little tahim, which is also has a little spice on it, and you can add muddle as much jalapeno in it as you want.

SPEAKER_01

Is that the sugar substitute you you would use agave?

SPEAKER_00

I would probably just use honey because that's what I have. Like I don't have agave syrup in my home. I would just put honey in it.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think most homes are just gonna have yeah. I think a lot of people use agave in their coffee or tea instead of sugar. I don't know if it's better for you, but anyways, that's the drink. I'm gonna order that tonight when I see you, and uh it's gonna be delicious.

SPEAKER_01

That sounds that that sounds actually not bad. You know, I think the jalapeno might cover the tequila. So, anyhow, um, what did you do this weekend?

SPEAKER_00

I've been enjoying my downtime, which has been great, and I've been doing a lot of work on my website, and I have been cheating and using a lot of AI in the last okay.

SPEAKER_01

Do you think that's cheating?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, do I think it's cheating? Yes and no. I kind of do think it's cheating, but it's sometimes it's really good, and you're like, why do I need to like sweat this stuff? You know? So, for example, on my website, I have a lot of descriptions of product. And you know, you to for websites to perform well, you need a lot of words on your website. So I usually do a short description of a product, and then I was running my site through some different like analysis, and it's you know, I needed more words. So I said, Well, I don't know what else to say about this mug, you know. So I so I I threw it into that AI thing, and it came up with like three paragraphs of what I'm like, oh my god. This is fantastic. So I used it, then I just kind of got addicted. I think it's really addicting AI.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I can see how that can happen because uh I didn't think I had much use for it, but I've been using it, you know, a little bit like like you said, like if I needed to, you know, comprise a like an email to somebody and I wanted to sound super professional, or maybe even put in a little legalese into it, you know. Wow, that makes me sound like incredibly smart. Yeah. I think AI can make you sound very, very smart. I've been thinking about that. Like you mentioned the word cheating. It's like yes and no. And I think like the no part of our generation, I'm gonna say no, because our generation is no, it's not cheating. Not cheating because without AI, we know how to write a letter, comprise a paragraph. You know, our grammar for most of us are you know, we we sound intelligent. We know how to do those things, we choose not to, is what you're saying. Exactly, exactly. Okay, now the younger generation is not learning how to do that. Like, remember the papers we had to turn papers? Yeah, they just AI that stuff. Yeah, they AI it. That was like in high school you start AIing, and then college, you know, if they're just AIing it, where's the work coming in? How are you learning?

SPEAKER_00

How are you your reasoning, your your critical thinking? How does that it's being replaced by somebody else's critical thinking? My son had a girlfriend and she was in, she's doing her master's hello. And it was her first paper due. She was hanging out at the house, and she said, How much AI is too much AI to use in my paper? And I said, Well, if you have to ask, it's probably too much. I said, Well, what how much did you do? She said, like 98% of it was AI. Oh, I was like, Oh my god, you're in a master's program. Why are you cheating? Like that is to me, is cheating. So she's like, Well, it's my idea, but I just used it to really support my you know things. And I'm like, Well, I I was like, I don't know what to tell you. Like, go through every sentence and change it. Like, because they because professors now can they have a they run the pages through a program and they can tell if it's wrong. Oh, they can tell? Yes, they can tell if it's written by AI. So anyway, so she was struggling with like changing it. And I was like, Well, I don't know. You asked my opinion, that's my opinion. I wouldn't go through and change it.

SPEAKER_01

If you're becoming reliant on it, then that brings you back to that critical thinking, and like you're not helping yourself, you're becoming reliant. And it's almost like if these people are using AI to make their theses or whatever, do you really need a master's list? Like, I guess I could go on and type in a criteria and come up with a wonderful thesis and get a master's degree and not know anything about the subject, quite honestly.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Yeah, that was kind of my point. Like, why are you doing a master's if you're not doing the work? Like in her her argument was, well, it's my idea, it's my hypothesis, it's my theory, it's my thoughts. I just need help putting it together. And I'm like, Well, isn't it our then shouldn't you prove it?

SPEAKER_01

Not AI is you know, my thoughts, my ideas, but I'm letting I uh AI generate everything for me. So it's I can come up again, let's circle back to I can come up with a thought and idea and essentially come up with the same thing as somebody who's trying to get a degree.

SPEAKER_00

I think I'm you made a good point about like we know how to do that stuff. So with AI, it's become uh it it's for me though, like I'm writing something descriptive about uh piece of pottery. It becomes really not my voice anymore. And that's the problem I have with it.

SPEAKER_01

It's like I want it to be my voice when it sounds But you can tweak what it says and AI will learn, learn from it and be and it does become your voice, which is another scary thing, I think.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, if you use the same program over and over again, it's how you like it.

SPEAKER_01

It learns, it learns you, which is a plus and a everything's a plus and a minus. I don't think there's uh a a yes or no to this question, is AI good or bad? I just it's how it's being used, how it's it seems like to me like it's like it's exploded all of a sudden. And I'm sure it's been around, but all of a sudden to me it's like it's exploded and it's only going to be utilized more and more and more. And some of the things that wow, what was my my husband was telling me, like he was reading an article about what jobs are not really going to exist because of AI. And one of them is like a lawyer, which you think about it, I'm like, that's a lot of schooling, that's a lot of learning, right? And a lot of experience, but it's also, I just can I've done it. I've typed in what I needed it to say. Yep. And voila, I don't need a lawyer.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Where you might have needed a to write a letter from a lawyer, you don't really need to do that anymore. Yeah, I think it is kind of taking over people's jobs already. I mean, my one of my sons was working for a company that they were encouraged to use this AI program that they had at their company. Like that was the goal. Like, everyone needs to use this all the time. It makes your job easier, it saves you time. So he was, yeah, sure. Like, that's my job. I was told to use this. So he used it. They used it for like six months, and then they let seven people go because the jobs were taken over by the program that he was told to use. So, like, literally, imagine getting that. Like, I'm sorry, your job is being replaced by a computer. A computer, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I mean it that's been happening. Technology has been with the robotics and everything's been taking over, but it also uh it I well, I guess we're lucky. I don't really have to think about it too much. You know, we're 60 something years old. Uh, it's not really our problem.

SPEAKER_00

That's the attitude. Yeah, but the other problem with AI, and this one I don't quite understand because I'm just not that's not my way my brain works, but the environmental issues it causes. Apparently, AI has a huge impact on climate change. Like it uses an enormous amount of water. Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_01

Electricity, water, and and there that's what they're saying is some of the rise, the ridiculous rise in electricity rates is because of AI.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, like you mean personal, like in your home? Well, somebody has to get passed down to somebody. So I guess there's these giant data centers, right, that they're building to me to run all this AI, which I have seen people complain like that that live around these data centers, like they don't have any water pressure. Imagine like you built this thing and it's taking all the water. I don't even understand that. Like it requires millions of gallons of fresh water to cool the data center. Yeah, that's crazy to me. Like there's gotta be maybe they should type in AI, how to combat the water problem with AI. That could be, yeah. It feels like it's like a nuclear, like a nuclear uh plant, you know. Like, why is it using so much water, right?

SPEAKER_01

Well, when computers before, you know, home computers and PCs and I remember when computers would take up room size. Yeah. And and it always had to be air conditioned and temperature controlled. And it's kind of like the same thing, I think. Like that technology required something excessive, but as time went on, they were able to come up with new technology that, you know, think about like a computer used to be room size, and now we have these little laptops. Our phones are computers, seriously. Yeah, is so in time, but that's not going to help the impact of it right now. The town up for me, they just voted down a data center coming in. Oh, wow. But you know what? It doesn't really matter. Somebody will get around it somehow. Because eventually, how do they come in? You know, nobody wants it in their backyard, but it always ends up in somebody's backyard, regardless of what the general consensus says.

SPEAKER_00

Well, how big are these plants, these data center plants? I don't know. They're like big warehouses. I would I don't know. They're huge. So why do they have to be so big? I don't understand. Like you just say AI AI that your phone is like a computer. So why does a data center have to be so big? I'm gonna ask. You're gonna ask it right now? Yeah, because that why does it have to be so big? Oh, it's because they need colossal amounts of electricity to function and generate an incredible amount of heat. So that's just gonna warm the planet the more and more and more we use this.

SPEAKER_01

And that's why I have stopped thinking, because it took a colossal amount of energy and it produced a lot of heat. So I said, let me just stop thinking and then I'll be cool and comfortable. You're right. Like, don't over-exert yourself. I'm not over exerting myself anymore. I'm AI in it. Let that person do it. Oh my god, that is so funny. Anyway, maybe maybe I can wear hats again because my head was always on fire.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, that's hysterical. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I enjoy it. I think it's kind of fun, to be honest. It's kind of like a game, you know. You can do anything. Like I redid my my, I did a landscape. That's another thing, like a landscape gardener. You don't need to hire somebody. You can just go on your computer and go and take a picture of your house and go, make this a pretty garden. And voila, there's your garden. And then it will say, Would you like me to recommend your plants? And it says, and you say yes, and there you go. That's all you have to do.

SPEAKER_01

And that's another thing that will be like, I don't want to say eliminated, but certainly decreased is landscape architects or even architects in general. And so yesterday I was playing around a little bit because my husband was, he spends an enormous amount of time doing estimates. Oh, right. It's it's I I mean, it's hours and hours doing estimates. So yesterday morning, during my solitude on my phone, not even on a computer, I just like AI'd, I said, kind of out of curiosity. So I just put in like a basic eight by ten deck. And very quickly, you know, because it gives you feedback, which is another great thing about AI. It gives you feedback. So I really quickly learned that um if you're trying to do an estimate, you really need to do it, put your zip code in because an eight by ten deck here in Rhode Island will be certainly completely different cost-wise because of the labor versus somewhere else in the country. Right. So I I learned that rather quickly. And then the first estimate I got was like a DIY versus a professional. So I'm like, okay, no, we need to put a professional estimate in. And then I just kept playing with it, and then I was like, I remembered a couple brand names of decking he used. So I put that in, and I mean, all in a matter of 10 minutes, even asking all those questions, I came up with it came up with an estimate. So when my husband gave that up, I said, Here, read this. And he was kind of blown away by it. Really? And so then we started playing, and he goes, All right, I've already, I just did a couple that he's already done. He goes, I'm gonna give you the information, I'm typing it in. He wanted to see how accurate it was to his long drawn out, you know, manual way of doing it versus me typing everything in. And because he's been saying that, you know, and I know it's true that you know, he's not charging enough because he just kind of does the generics. He's not including like the nuts and the bolts and the this and the that, all the that little stuff that can add up. So we did an estimate compared, two estimates compared to the two that he had already done, and it came in higher. So then he was literally comparing it. No, AI was higher. Oh, yeah. And then he was and then he was looking at it and he goes, Oh, yeah, I didn't include that. Oh yeah, I don't, I didn't include that. I don't include that. Well, I kind of round that up a little bit, but the really big things were dead on, like his labor was dead on, uh, the material costs were dead on. Um, but it was, you know, some of the other things that he just doesn't think about. Let me ask you this, because you've probably got estimates before. Do you like them to be a little bit more detailed, like a material list? 100%.

SPEAKER_00

I want everything line itemed. 100%. I just went through a huge house renovation and everything is detailed. Everything is like they're two or three pages sometimes, these estimates. And I love that. I know exactly what I'm getting. I know exactly what I can cross out, I can I know exactly what I can change. I don't have to guess that halfway through the project I might have made a change. I have no idea how that impacts the estimate. And I just have, you know, the word of whoever I'm working with. But when you line item it, you can clearly see everything that's done and everything that was done. I 100% prefer that.

SPEAKER_01

I think in this particular instance, AI could be extremely helpful for companies. And there are a lot of apps out there. I I've noticed, you know, for AI, you could pay for an app, a monthly fee. Um, but I'm like, why when you got me? Tick, tick, tick. And then at the end of it all, then I, you know, then I said, okay, take the above information and uh put it in a professional format style to be sent to a client, and voila, there it was, like laid out beautifully.

SPEAKER_00

I think for our generation to use AI, it so benefits in so many ways. So many ways. Like just use it. But the you I do think about the whole environmental impact thing. It does bother me. And you know what actually made me think about it was that, and I had no idea really, I was kind of living in, I didn't really use a lot of AI, so I wasn't really paying attention to it. But that boy that died in Japan, did you hear about that boy that got separated from his family and then he died? No, you didn't hear about this. No, was this research about two weeks ago? Yeah. This boy and his family, he was like, I don't know, maybe he was 20, 19, 20, and his brother and his mom and dad were in to um Japan visiting the country, and they were in Kyoto, and the mother and the son started arguing about AI because the mother was using it a lot, I guess, on her phone, like, you know, you're in a foreign country, let me put together a plan for the day or whatever. And he started to get upset with her. So they had this little argument because he was like, Every time you ask a question in AI, it uses a gallon of water. That's what I heard. Now that's a lot of water for one question. So he got mad at her. They, you know, had a little tiff like you do with your families. It's not a big deal. There's no blame there. It's just he stormed off and then they needed time apart. And then he got, I don't know where he went or what he did, but he got lost, he got separated, he took a train, he ended up in the forest, and he died. And that was the last I saw him. And so, anyways, the mother was very forthright. I I give kudos to her for like going on public, you know, at television and announcing that they were fighting. You know, most people would be like, they wouldn't admit that because it makes you feel guilty, probably. Guilty, yeah. So she, you know, she said, Yeah, we had this little like, you know, argument about AI. And she said what it was that he got upset because she was, she was, she was using it and how much it really impacts the environment. And one question uses one gallon of water. So, you know, every time I use it, I I do think about that. I went through a lot of gallons of water yesterday.

SPEAKER_01

Let me tell you. Like anything, like when you don't see the impact, it's not reality. And I'm not just talking with AI and water, but I'm just in general, like, you know, things that we do, how it impacts the environment, because it's so it's just me, but you know, collectively, of course, it's huge, but it's a hard thing for I think people to wrap their heads around because you don't literally see it. Being told that, and maybe at the end of the day, if you could see some kind of container that held all the water, then that would be a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00

What you personally used by asking questions?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I think ask those people that live around those data centers. I think they totally understand the the problem. You know, they say they can't even get water, you know, coming out of it.

SPEAKER_01

I never heard that part before. So it's uh it's it's interesting. Yeah, and you really can't, I can't wrap my head around the fact that how can things get more complicated, but it does.

SPEAKER_00

Well, they say now the next iteration of AI is it's going to, it's gonna know what you're thinking about.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, sometimes I think it does that now. You know, so I I'm thinking about something. I've never uttered a word about it. I haven't searched it on my phone, I haven't said anything to anybody, and then it will appear in my like feed or it will pop up in my in my like social channels, and I'm like, how do they know I was thinking about that? And I'm like, did I say that out loud? Did I say that somewhere? So I do think it will very easily m turn into being able to predict predictive.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, wait till you see what's on your phone when we're done with this podcast. You know, like it I think it always tears you. So do you remember, or did you ever see? I just that's what I was just googling to make sure I had the name of the movie. Um, I Robot with Will Smith. No, I never saw it. Well, that's what I keep saying is gonna happen. It's with the robots, you know, they they developed these robots to be nannies and you know, caretakers and housekeepers, and like, you know, took over a lot of the jobs. And then guess what happened? The robots got so intelligent. They took over. They took over. I believe that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I believe that. And there'll be robot like um military, they already kind of do that. They use drones now, but like they'll have little like marching robot people with guns and bombs and all the things that we're gonna scary.

SPEAKER_01

Uh right up the street from us is uh uh Citizens Bank uh headquarters, so it's a big complex. And when they built it, because it was in our town, part of the deal was that there was like a big walking track, it kind of goes around the whole complex. And then there's fields of for I guess tennis and bocce and baseball. That's all uh able for the town to use, which is nice, it's a nice place to go. Well, they have that security robot dog. Have you ever seen one of those? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Freaks me. Oh, wait, it's on it's on the walking path. It's yeah, it's it, yeah, it's on the path. It's like I I can hear it before I see it. I'm like, where is that thing? Because that thing freaks me out. Is it barking? No, it doesn't bark, but you know, it has those, you know, robotic legs, freaking legs, and then and then when it it when you're approaching it, is if you know you're heading towards each other, it kind of stops, and I I feel like it's judging me. It stops and then it sidesteps. Like a spending. And they're like, Oh, I hate it, I hate it, I hate it. I don't know why it freaks me out so bad. I'm like, but I can you can hear it before you see it. And I'm like, my head is a sweet.

SPEAKER_00

And then there's this robotic thing that approaches you.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I I don't know what you mean by nature, but it's uh, you know, the the big buildings, and they just have a big path around the building. And so, yeah, I I know where it's housed. You see it coming out of the big parking garage. It stops.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, get away. I hate it. Oh, it's probably coming towards you because it's identifying you.

SPEAKER_01

People come up into the complex driving around, and I've had people stop and go, have you seen the robot dog? Because they want the kids in the back. They want to show it to it. Yeah, and I'm like, no, I don't like the robot dog.

SPEAKER_00

I don't even like the robot floor cleaner at my local stopping shop.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I hate that thing. This one at BJ's, and you hear it, it chirp, beep, beep.

SPEAKER_00

Sometimes I just want to step in its way because it annoys me so much. It's always there, it's just constantly moving. It's so annoying. Well, I don't think we're gonna solve the AI debate. I think I'll still keep using it and calling it cheating. And I I think you'll probably use it now to really probably free up a lot of your time and estimates for your for your work, which is awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Honestly, yes. It was, it was uh, it did save a lot of time. Cool. Anyway, so what's your hot flash today? It was not that long ago, maybe a couple months ago, I finally admitted to myself at work that I needed help. You know, as drowning in it. I was just getting further and further behind. And I blamed it a lot on you know what had I was going through with my parents. But honestly, even prior to that, I was getting further and further behind. So I finally and I was crying to my husband, you know, about it, and I'm like jokingly said, I need an intern. But what we eventually did is we hired somebody to come in a couple days a week. And it really has been for me taking a lot of the stress of it. Like today is Monday, and I know I I had these particular tasks that I would try to do on Monday, and they just took forever. It needs to be done every week, but it it takes a lot of my time, and I hated doing it. Yeah. So I passed it on to her. So I was thinking earlier today that, you know, like, oh, I get I'm going in, oh, I don't have to do that. Yay. So I think like what I'm really trying to say is like realizing that you need help, whether it's like in at work or at home, or you know, like I know somebody who for a very long time was resistant because she didn't think it was it was something she could do, like clean her house. But now she was working. You come, you spend a few hours on your precious time off cleaning the house. And now that she has a housekeeper, it's like you can just see that it takes a lot of the ugh away from your day, right?

SPEAKER_00

It's okay to ask for help, is what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, absolutely. It's okay to ask for help, even if you have to pay for the help, right? It's it's I mean, if you're in a position to do so, but we don't have to do everything all the time, but then we'll wallow in it, get further behind, not do it to our satisfaction, get upset that it's not done right, it becomes this big snowball. So if if there is some help that you can pull in, there is that thing that you know it's peace of mind, it's um it's wellness, really. You know, it can just make if you are take that little bit of stress away, it's healthy. So I'm gonna hire more people because it's healthy. Yeah. You're gonna just wean yourself right out of a job. Right out of there, yeah, yeah, I like that too. I didn't think where that was going. Epiphany. Yeah, yeah. So, what about you? Do you have a hot flash?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm trying to sell a car. This has been on my to-do list to sell a car. Anybody want a 2016 Mini Cooper? Give me a call. How do people sell cars nowadays? I don't know. I didn't use the traditional Craigslist, I put it on Facebook Marketplace. I got some really good interest, like the first seven hours. Yeah. And then nothing. Nobody comes, nobody follows up, nobody wants to see it. I get crickets. So I'm like, how do you sell a car? Do do you only can you only sell cars now through Carbana or Car Car, whatever those places are called?

SPEAKER_01

Those big online with the Facebook marketplace too, because we've done the same thing, it gets buried. You gotta you gotta keep kind of boosting it. How do you boot? You mean pay for it? I I wouldn't pay for it, I would just revise it. Edit it, revise it, and then and it will come to the top again. But do you think like people are not buying used cars as much? Well, okay, I'm trying to sell my dad's car right now, too. And we were talking about that yesterday. My son was over, and he said, Nobody's buying anything right now. And you know him, he buys and sells a bazillion things. So it could be like the time of the year, it could be the economy, it could be a a multitude of factors, but I don't think you're alone right now, is basically what I'm trying to say. I think everybody is trying to in that little bit of a lull. It it might be the time of the year. I'm my my father's car's been for sale. God, I don't know how many weeks now. No bites. I get bites, nibbles. I had one person come and see it. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

So, and and I lowered the price.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's that's the other thing. I like lowered the price to a point where I thought you really can't buy a car for that amount of money, like a decent car. Because when we went looking for cars, we couldn't find a car in that price range. So I thought it was a really reasonably priced car for a a Cooper, and nothing. Nothing.

SPEAKER_01

Some some maybe it's too low, you know. Sometimes put it higher and see if you get more bikes. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah. I'm gonna jack up that price. Yeah. Re take down the post, rewrite it, make it more money, and see if do an experiment. Oh, I love it. I should ask AI.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

There you go. All right, on that note.

SPEAKER_01

Have a wonderful day, and I'll see you later. All right, I'll see you later on tonight. Looking forward to it. Have a good day, and uh talk to everybody soon. Okay, bye.

unknown

Bye.