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Cornfusion - Agritourism before Agritourism was Cool! 10-13-2025

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Get Lost - in the best possible way at Cornfusion Corn Maze!
Lisa Showvaker shares 23 years of experience in corn mazes, Christmas Trees, and agritourism. This year's Cornfusion theme "Wonderland Adventure" offers four acres of corn mazes with twists, turns, giggles and fun for all ages.

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A wonderland adventure in a corn maze?

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We're going to find out how corn fusion pulls all of the pieces together to make agritourism special for over 20 years.

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My brother-in-law was helping us and he was in there chopping down eat-foot tall corn in no particular pattern because we didn't know about people that can actually draw a pattern in it.

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And he came out of the corn and hollered, I'm corn fused.

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And that's actually how corn fusion got its name.

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Welcome to Raising Connections, connecting your community to others through Critters, Companions, Commerce, and Agriculture.

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I'm Ray Shan Mayer.

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Let's raise some connections.

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Here we go.

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Today, as always, we have a fun and interesting guest, Lisa Schovaker from Corn Fusion.

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Welcome.

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Hi, Richanne.

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Thanks for having me.

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What is Corn Fusion?

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Corn Fusion is more than a corn maze.

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It kind of grew into that name.

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It's more of an event now than just a corn maze.

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We started out adding some fall activities to supplement our Christmas tree farm.

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And the actual name of the corn maze was Corn Fusion.

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But now that it encompasses 40 plus activities,

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Confusion is the name of the event as well.

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When you say 40 plus activities, to me that sounds like agritourism done really well, and keeping the confusion out of the corn must be a lot to manage in the background.

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It definitely is.

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We start set up as early as June each year to set up all the different games and activities that we have, and we do all that work for the seven weekends that we're open in September and October.

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So if you're starting in June to open in September, it takes more time

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to prep than it does to enjoy.

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It really does.

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That sounds like a good meal.

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My mother used to tell me, if a good meal takes more time to prepare than it does to consume, you've done it right.

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I thought, oh my goodness, okay.

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Your mother was right.

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Where is Corn Fusion located?

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We're just north of Manchester, Maryland.

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We're up at the Pennsylvania line, right on the border of Hanover, Pennsylvania and Manchester, Maryland.

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And you're located on a farm.

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We are.

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We have about 50 acres here that we farm.

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Tell me about the farm.

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If there's seven weeks of Corn

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there's 365 days of other type of work that happens.

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We're primarily a Christmas tree farm, so about 30, 35 acres is in Christmas trees, and then the rest of the property we use for the corn maze and the fall activities.

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So it sounds to me like the fall and Christmas is the time that's going to be really busy at your place.

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It is.

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We have the season, the fall season runs September and October, and we have a couple of weeks to switch over.

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in November, and then by the last week in November, we're heavy into the Christmas season.

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When we talked about early that in June, you start setting up for corn fusion, Christmas trees don't just grow and there's nothing to do.

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There's maintenance that happens for Christmas trees all year long.

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They just don't create that beautiful shape by themselves, or do they?

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You're right.

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There's a lot more work involved.

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When my husband first posed the idea of a Christmas tree farm, he made it sound like it was going to be easy, but it was a lot more to it.

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than what we ever expected.

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Between mowing, there's pesticide.

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We get to take care of pests on the farm, including weeds.

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They need to be sheared, trimmed each season.

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It's a constant on the Christmas trees.

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I don't think we ever get done trimming them.

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I believe that anybody who has a shrub in their yard, not the Christmas trees are shrubs by any imagination, but they always have, at least my shrubs have these little pieces that come off that maybe shouldn't be coming off or the way I would like them to look.

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And it is a constant trim.

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And I would assume the Christmas trees are the same.

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Yes, they start growing early spring as when they break bud.

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Trimming should be done by the middle of the summer, but generally we're taking that in partly even into the fall season.

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We try to get all the trees trimmed that are of saleable size first, and then they spend the winter months going ahead and finishing up any other trimming that needs to be done.

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And we start replacing any trees that were cut over the wintertime by planting new trees.

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So with the corn maze, the corn goes in and it grows up in one year, but the Christmas trees, I guess we're going to

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Christmas and then we'll go back to corn.

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The Christmas trees, they're not just a one-year grow.

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How many years until a Christmas tree is actually harvested?

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We plan for about seven years into the future.

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Some we can rotate at about the five-year mark.

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Some are a little bit longer, maybe eight or nine years.

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But 7 is pretty much the average.

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If you're a farmer, you normally plant your crop and then you harvest that crop within the year.

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And this is a seven-year growth.

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Are there trends in Christmas trees?

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Like maybe one year everybody wants one type of Christmas tree and seven years ago you planted a different variety.

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Does that ever happen?

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We see that it stays pretty steady with the Fraser fir and the Douglas fir.

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They tend to be the most popular.

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We see little spikes sometimes for white pine or blue spruce, but not anything that would really change our plan with what we're going to plant.

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The hardest

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starts trying to determine how many people are going to actually want a real tree versus an artificial tree seven years from now.

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That would be tough.

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And then do people come to your farm and harvest the trees there and have the on-farm experience, or are you shipping them off somewhere?

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Yeah, they come here.

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We're all choosing cut.

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All of our pre-cut trees are trees that we grew, so everything comes off of this farm.

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We can come to the farm and we can harvest the Christmas tree.

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We go out, we pick it, we cut it.

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I'm assuming somebody can help us cut it if we need help.

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We're primarily cut your

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own.

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In the fields, the customers are expected to cut their own.

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If we do need to offer assistance, we try to do that during the week when we're not too busy.

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The weekends tend to be pretty packed, so it's difficult to get away, to get out to the field to help somebody.

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But as an alternative, we keep all varieties of trees and different sizes of trees in our pre-cut area.

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So it's folks that don't want to have to crawl on the ground to cut down their own tree or where they're just not able to do their own can go in there and select a tree from

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there.

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I have a question that might seem really odd, but inquiring minds, and mine really wants to know, when you cut down a tree, there's a stump.

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And if it's a tree that's grown for seven to 10 years, that's probably about 10 inches around.

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What happens with those stumps, or do you plant beside them?

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We plant beside them.

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They're usually not quite 10 inches around.

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It more likely be around six or seven inches.

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If it's 10, then we've left it get a little bit too full.

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It grew out rather than out at that point.

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But to answer your question, we try

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to plant beside the existing stumps.

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Eventually they do start to rot up and they go away.

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Yeah, occasionally there's a stump in the way and they'll dig it out, but they try to go beside it.

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I have always wondered that.

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You answered a question that I have had in the back of my mind for years.

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What happens to the Christmas tree stumps?

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When you got into the agriculture and your husband said, let's do Christmas trees, that was the first use of the farm, the agricultural use of the farm.

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And then came the corn maze.

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How many years had you been doing the Christmas trees before going into fall agriculture?

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We planted our first Christmas trees in 1985.

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Our first maze was in 2002.

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How have corn mazes changed?

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Because you have a phenomenal corn maze that isn't like anything else around.

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It grew into what it is today.

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Our first year opening for fall was just a path cut through some corn.

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We had a couple little other games, maybe a half a dozen other little games and some animals, but it was nothing like it is today.

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Each year we try to add some new activities, some new games to try and keep it fresh so that our returning customers get to see something new every year.

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So yeah, I went from probably 6 activities to the over 40 that it is today.

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That's a lot of activities.

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To give our listeners an idea

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idea of what this is.

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How many acres does the maze itself cover?

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The corn fusion maze is just under 4 acres, and that grew as well too.

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Our first mazes were in a smaller area, and it was just under 3 acres.

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And then as we needed to add more activities and more games, we cleared off some Christmas tree area to use that for our new corn fusion maze, which is now about four acres, and then used the previous area that the maze was in

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to add more games.

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Growing up as a Midwest farmer and seeing so many corn fields, I have to ask this question.

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And I bet there's a farmer out there in our listening audience.

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What kind of corn are you using to make the maize?

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Gosh, I can't answer that.

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I don't know the answer to that question.

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It's a big corn, it's not sweet corn, but I don't know the variety or the strain or the seed source.

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How tall is it?

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Sweet corn is usually a little shorter and field corn is almost sometimes 6 to 8 feet tall.

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How tall are the corn stalks?

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It's definitely over 8 foot.

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I think the tallest corn we ever had was 11.

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I think this year it's probably coming in at around between 8:00 and 9:00.

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Eight to 9 feet tall.

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It's definitely over everybody's head.

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There's nobody that can see you on top of it.

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That is definitely going to be something to see.

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If you've never seen a big cornfield, you got to go see this.

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What's the biggest challenge in creating a maze?

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Every year you do this and every year you've gotten more and better.

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What's the biggest challenge?

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Well, there's a few challenges as far as

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is the setup of it, it's the timing.

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Once that corn starts to grow, it grows fast.

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Oh, yeah.

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So the clock starts ticking as soon as the seed hits the soil, because then we have to get ready to actually draw the outline of the maze on the ground, get the corn cut out, and then we get the infrastructure into the maze.

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There's games that we've actually put inside of the corn.

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We have the orientation rooms, as we call them.

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They're actually tents that are set up to show the customers how the game in the maze

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works.

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We have to run power into the maze, audio, so all that wiring needs to be laid down.

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There's a snack-shack inside of the maze that needs to be cleaned up, set up.

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There's port-a-pots inside the maze, so they need to be brought in.

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And in about a two-week time, the corn can go from four inches to 10 or 12 inches, and then we call it leaf-over.

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Once the leaves of the corn start to cross into each other, we can no longer walk through the corn, we have to walk the paths, and that makes it a lot

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difficult to do any of this setup.

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So are the paths created with the maze in mind, or are they access paths?

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No, with the maze in mind.

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We do put a couple of access paths in, but primarily it's the paths that make the design, the picture of the maze, so that from an aerial shot, it looks like a particular theme, whatever we've picked out for that year.

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And then the access path, we call it a speed exit, we put into the mazes so that folks that want to get out, they've had enough maze for the day, they can get out faster.

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access paths become that speed exit then.

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I think I might use one of those.

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Growing up in the Midwest and then being in the corn, we always were afraid of getting lost in the corn or finding things in the corn that maybe you shouldn't be finding in the corn.

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And one of the things when I moved to Maryland, people said, oh, you need to go to the corn maze.

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And I thought to myself, why are we going to go get lost in a cornfield?

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I was always told not to do that.

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The first time I came.

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You wouldn't be alone going out the speed exit.

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I would probably venture that about half

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half of our guests actually use the speed X that they don't complete the entire maze.

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It's a challenge.

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I would feel one to two hours.

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Oh my goodness.

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One to two hours to get through the maze.

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If you want to play the game that's involved, you can actually walk and find the correct half and probably get out in about 30 minutes.

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But if you want to find all the things we have hidden in the maze, then it could take one to two hours because you have to backtrack and find those things.

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Now that might get me there.

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And when you said the snack tent inside the maze, that would definitely help.

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I would be like the mouse going for the snack tent.

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That might really get me

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be there.

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This is so well thought out.

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In my mind, when I first heard this, I thought, do they just take the combine and draw figure Xs or these crop circles in there?

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It is not like that at all.

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The technology behind this and the thought behind this.

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Can you walk us through some of the games and what it's really like for those folks out there like me who were thinking, we're just going to take a combine to the corn?

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Sure.

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It all starts with a theme.

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And usually we have our team decided in January.

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We do have a company that we work with who will

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draw the designs, either based on a theme we've come up with or with some standard themes that they have.

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This year is Wonderland Adventure, which is kind of based on Alice in Wonderland.

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So they'll draw up a picture of where the paths would be in the maze once we transfer it.

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When it gets a little closer after the corn's planted, then we'll have a guy come out.

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Again, we hire a company to come out with his GPS, and he can transfer the drawing of the maze to the ground.

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He'll walk along the corn maze that's not

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aren't up yet.

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And we marked behind them with spray paint on the ground.

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And that's how we marked the original paths of the maze.

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Okay, I'm just, you just totally blew me away.

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And I'm so in awe, my jaw is dropping.

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So there's someone, okay, I guess I don't know how I thought this would happen.

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Maybe I thought that the aliens would come and make the mazes in there.

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There's actually someone who's walking through the cornfield and you're walking behind them.

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And whoever is laying out the path and you're marking is able to do that from a picture with guidance from somewhere.

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Yes, it gets into a little bit there that I'm not quite sure how they do that, but they take the drawing that we've approved and through GPS and probably some other technology in the stars that is beyond me, they can walk those paths in the maze.

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So wherever he walks, we mark the ground and then that's where we know that's where the corn needs to be removed from those areas.

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So we plant the entire four acres with seed, but then we go back and cut out the corn from the paths that are marked.

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Respect and honor, because wow, for having grown up and seeing the cornfields and then walking through them, to be able to do it into a pattern and then create that pattern, what an amazing feat of technology.

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I'm in awe.

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Well, we weren't always that smart.

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Our first one, we didn't know that you take out the corn when it's as small as it can be.

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We waited till it was over 8 foot.

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And that's actually how corn fusion got its name.

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My brother-in-law was helping us, and he was in there

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chopping down, eat foot tall corn in no particular pattern because we didn't know about people that can actually draw a pattern in it.

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And he came out of the corn and hollered, I'm corn fused.

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That's where it got his.

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I love that.

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I can see that happening in my own world.

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I can so see that.

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I love it.

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When we come back, full agritourism and Christmas trees, more about them.

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Welcome back to Raising Connections.

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That experience speaks to the growth of the agritourism business, starting out, getting an idea, getting corn fused, and having the ability to see beyond that moment.

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And that's how we grew, along with the whole property, growing with fun activities, we grew in our knowledge of what we needed to do to make it happen.

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We definitely didn't have that knowledge the first year we did it.

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What gave you the tenacity to do the second year and the third year?

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Starting a business is tough.

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It's fun to see the families come out.

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So that's the part that I like.

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When you finally get the property all put together and everything set up and all the games ready, and then all you have to do is wait for folks to come, that's the best part to me, is that anticipation of people having fun.

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To be able to walk through the property when customers are here and hear the kids laughing and people having a great time.

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I love the smile in your voice.

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You can hear the smile in your voice when you describe it.

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So many folks who have a business or they have a farm and it becomes work, it sounds like it's still joy to you.

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Joy is probably a strong word.

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But at least when I'm out there sweating and hurrying and trying to get things repaired and ready.

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But I had this feeling this year, and I almost did a Facebook post about it, and then I just ran out of time and didn't get to do it.

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We do this setup, like I said, we start probably in June setting up all of the games.

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And we have to go game to game and make repairs because things got damaged or wore out.

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And then we have to cover it up because it's June and it can't be out in the weather.

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until September.

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We wait till the very end to start putting on some of the finishing touches like flags and plant flowers.

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So this year, the week before we opened, as I'm going around taking covers off and putting flags out, I just had this feeling like you could almost hear the laughter.

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You could almost hear the people having a good time.

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It was like a palpable feeling that this is going to make people happy.

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It's a weird feeling and I'm not quite sure how to describe it, but that's what it's like.

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It's a fun time.

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It sounds like the anticipation of families enjoying each other.

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brings you such joy.

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It does.

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It is what makes it worth it.

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My husband and I have both said it, that it's the good customers that make this whole journey worth it.

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I love that.

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When you invite someone onto your farm and you invite someone into something that you have created, it's almost like the handmade quilt or the handmade cookies.

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It's a handmade gift that you're sharing with those clients.

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And I hear that in your voice.

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No, thank you.

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It's something special.

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So many times there are activities that are designed for the small children or they're designed for the older adults.

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This is a true family adventure.

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Tell us about those games that get the families working together.

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We do try to have something for all ages.

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You know, we have little playground activities for the young ones.

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You may have seen them at some other farms, the corn pits and that kind of thing.

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The little ones like that, the probably six-year-old to 10, 12-year-old,

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straw games that they can crawl on, obstacle course, ball games, you know, basketball, football tossing, baseball tossing, that kind of thing.

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The older teenagers tend to like pedal cars and the maze.

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It's always a hit with the mid-teenagers.

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And then we try to do something for the parents as well.

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The shooting gallery is always a hit, especially for the guys.

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They always like to blast apples or shoot paintballs.

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So we try to keep it pretty rounded out so that everybody in the family has a good time.

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But really an active day.

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It's not you're going to be sitting and walking through and taking a nice tour in the country.

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It's an active day and it's meant to be a joy.

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It's meant to be full of active and joy.

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It definitely is an active day.

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And one of the things we always kid is if everybody's walking out looking exhausted, then we did our job.

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I love that.

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How many different mazes are there?

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Is there just one or are there multiples?

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We have the main corn fusion maze and then we have what we call a mini maze.

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There's actually a little game involved with that one.

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as well.

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And the mini maze is probably 1/2 acre at the most.

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It's a good way for parents of little ones to get some corn maze time in without having to commit to 4 acres of walking around.

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Most of the littler kids, it doesn't take them long to board with 8 foot tall corn, so we just have the mini maze for those folks.

00:19:23 Speaker 1

That makes a lot of sense.

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You're thinking of everybody in every level, so you keep them coming back year after year and making it part of their family tradition.

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As much as you can hear the joy that's to come,

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they're anticipating you being there for them.

00:19:37 Speaker 1

Is the flashlight maze and the minor maze the same thing?

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No, the minor maze is actually straw bales that are configured.

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It lets the kids crawl through the straw bales that are kind of in a maze versus the actual flashlight maze, which is the big corn fusion maze that we do at night.

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Oh my gosh, going through the corn maze at night.

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I hadn't thought about that.

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Oh my heavens, that would be something else because things look

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different at night than they do at day.

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Absolutely.

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Even I get confused.

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Oh my God.

00:20:09 Speaker 1

Yeah.

00:20:09 Speaker 1

Holy moly.

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Yeah.

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So you go in.

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Totally different night.

00:20:13 Speaker 1

That would, yeah, that just, I had never thought about that.

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I was thinking broad daylight.

00:20:17 Speaker 1

Oh wow.

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That would be a whole level of difficulty.

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Yes.

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You kind of lose your sense of direction at night.

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For our team that works here, we tell them you have to use some of your other senses at night.

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You have to listen for the tractor going around the maze so you kind of can tell where the outskirts are.

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You listen for the

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direction that the music's coming from because we know where the speakers are set so that they can get a sense of direction.

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But when you can't see out at night, you lose that perspective that you have in the daytime.

00:20:44 Speaker 1

If we're planning to come out, how long should we plan on being there?

00:20:47 Speaker 1

This does not sound like an hour-long adventure.

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This sounds like a really good family day.

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We generally recommend that you at least about two hours.

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Otherwise, you're not going to be able to pull the little kids away from the games.

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They're not going to want to leave at closing time.

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And there's tons to do.

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They can keep busy all day.

00:21:03 Speaker 1

Do we need to make

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a reservation?

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Is it come at will?

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How do we do this?

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No reservations are necessary.

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We sell armbands at the door or that can be purchased online as well for those that want to purchase ahead, but it's not necessary.

00:21:16 Speaker 1

Are there picnic areas?

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Do we bring a blanket and set out?

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Do we get our snacks in the maze and can we bring them out?

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How does that part work?

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We have some picnic tables on the property so folks can, if they want to bring something along to eat or drink at the picnic table, that's fine.

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We don't restrict anything except for alcohol.

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And then we have some concession stands on site as well.

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So you can grab a bite to eat here, you can bring something along.

00:21:40 Speaker 1

So we've got my snacks taken care of, the daylight versus the night times.

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We've got all the activities going.

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It sounds like a really fun time.

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I understand why the anticipation of the family is coming and the laughter coming.

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How many years have you been doing corn fusion?

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Our first one was in 2002.

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So we're on our 23rd phase.

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That's a lot of time to be running.

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running an agritourism business, and a lot of people that have come to visit your farm, a lot of folks that have enjoyed what you're offering.

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How did the idea for a corn maze come when the farm's focus was Christmas trees?

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We talked a lot about Christmas trees in the beginning.

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How did the corn maze come into your mind to do this?

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Was this your husband going, let's plant Christmas trees and now we're going to plant corn?

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Yeah, it'll be easy.

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Those are some famous last words.

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We actually attended a Christmas tree meeting.

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I think it was Pennsylvania Christmas tree growers.

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They have an annual summer meeting of all the different growers can attend it.

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And it was one of the farmers at that meeting, I think, said he does a corn maize and Christmas trees.

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And that's what kind of planted the seed, so to speak.

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So let us start to think, I wonder if that's something that we could do to kind of supplement Christmas trees to draw some attention to the Christmas part of the farm.

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But it kind of grew into its own entity now.

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It blows me away.

00:23:04 Speaker 1

My guess is you're not planting corn in June.

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You're probably planting corn a little bit before that.

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You talked about hitting that sweet spot for getting the corn in the ground so it was the right height and the right time when you're ready for the fall.

00:23:15 Speaker 1

So in that May, June time frame, getting ready, June starts the hard activities for the fall.

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How many years in advance are you planning?

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So for example, are you planning next year now or are you planning two years from now?

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We definitely do have thoughts for next year because as things don't function

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function properly this season, we're making notes, so we need to take care of that for next season.

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The maze theme will probably pick in January.

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We're definitely already planning inventory needs, you know, keeping track of what we need to have on hand next year.

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It doesn't stop, but even after the doors close at the end of October, we go right into starting to plan for next season.

00:23:56 Speaker 1

That makes sense.

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Farms are a business, and agritourism in our modern time this year, 2025,

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Agritourism is a word that has become often used.

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In 2002, it was not a word, and value-added agriculture and agritourism were really brand new and not really a thing the way they are now.

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What sort of obstacles did you run into getting going?

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I'm thinking insurance and where to park people.

00:24:25 Speaker 2

There were the two that came to my mind right away when you said it, because you're right.

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In 2002, it may have been a word in parts of the United States, but really,

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really not here in Maryland yet, at least not that I heard it.

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The first one was insurance.

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Can we get insurance on these activities?

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So it took some calling around and finding different companies until we found one that would cover both Christmas trees and the fall activities.

00:24:48 Speaker 2

Parking has been a challenge over the years.

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We have to save back a certain portion of the property that we can't plan anything on or put activities on because we're going to need it for parking in the fall and also for Christmas trees as well.

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We were lucky that about eight years ago, we

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to acquire a neighboring property that has some extra open ground on it so we can overflow parking to there and staff because we are seasonal business we do have a couple of full-time guys that work here but the rest of the staff is seasonal and they need to be trained and ready to go when we open but then we're only open for seven weekends so it's difficult sometimes to find staff that only want to work for seven weekends for 14 days.

00:25:30 Speaker 1

That would be a challenge do you often have the

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the same staff that comes back year over year.

00:25:36 Speaker 2

It varies.

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A lot of our staff is students.

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So generally, they'll return for a few years, but then they're off to college or off to start their own lives, and then they don't come back.

00:25:47 Speaker 2

We have a few very loyal staff.

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Some have been with me since day one.

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Others have been here 15 years plus and keep coming back.

00:25:55 Speaker 2

This year was a great year.

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We had a great return of students that came back.

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So even though we still had to hire 15 or 20 people, we had

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at least that many returning as well.

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So that made hiring a little bit less stressful this year.

00:26:08 Speaker 1

It seems like a pretty darn intense 7 weeks.

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But when you think about life on a farm, harvest season is a pretty darn intense time.

00:26:17 Speaker 1

And September to, I would think, December 24th would be a time that's really busy on the place.

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And that's your harvest time.

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And your harvest, much like you said in the beginning, it's the laughter, it's the memories, it's the joy that you're bringing people through the agricultural.

00:26:33 Speaker 2

Yes, and you're right.

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It is an intense time.

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Fortunately, for the fall, it starts a little slower.

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The first two or three weekends are a little bit quieter.

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But now that October has hit, it'll be much busier.

00:26:45 Speaker 2

We have just a very short window to get everything from the fall put away, closed up, covered up, torn down, corn harvested, pumpkins put away.

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We just have about usually two weeks to get that all done before we reopen again for Christmas trees.

00:27:01 Speaker 2

And Christmas tree season starts hot.

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We don't ease into Christmas like we do with the fall.

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As soon as the doors open, it's like the light switch is turned on and it's busy right away.

00:27:11 Speaker 2

So again, back to the challenges of the staff.

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For Christmas, the staff has to be ready to go from the first hour.

00:27:17 Speaker 2

We've been doing it enough years.

00:27:18 Speaker 2

I think we're starting to get a pretty good pattern now.

00:27:21 Speaker 1

I bet.

00:27:21 Speaker 1

After 23 years, you could probably teach people a few things.

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Because you were in on the very beginning of agritourism and agricultural changeover.

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You've done these things.

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And my hat's off to your husband going, let's plant Christmas trees.

00:27:32 Speaker 1

It'll be easy.

00:27:33 Speaker 1

Let's plant corn.

00:27:34 Speaker 1

It'll be fun.

00:27:35 Speaker 1

Corn fusion here is where it came from.

00:27:37 Speaker 1

If we want to come and join you and enjoy the things that you are offering, where do we find you and how do we get there?

00:27:44 Speaker 2

Our address is 2020 Garrett Road, and it's a Manchester, Maryland address.

00:27:49 Speaker 2

So actually it's north of Manchester, about three to five miles north of Manchester, Maryland.

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You actually come into Pennsylvania a couple hundred yards and turn onto Garrett Road, and then it changes back into Maryland again.

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It kind of weaves along the PA Maryland line.

00:28:02 Speaker 1

We're going to be

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there.

00:28:03 Speaker 1

You've convinced me that I can get over my fear of the cornfields and I'm going to call my mother and tell her I'm going to the cornfield, but it's okay.

00:28:12 Speaker 2

We'll bring your mother along.

00:28:13 Speaker 1

Oh, she might have a good time.

00:28:15 Speaker 1

If there's snacks involved, we'll definitely be there.

00:28:17 Speaker 1

Maybe I'll bring mom and we'll have a good time.

00:28:18 Speaker 1

We'll go through the maze together.

00:28:20 Speaker 2

Oh, that would be great.

00:28:21 Speaker 1

I appreciate you taking the time out from this busy time to come and talk with us.

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And I'm hoping we're going to see you there and we get to be some of your good memories.

00:28:29 Speaker 2

Oh, I hope so.

00:28:30 Speaker 2

I would love to meet you in person.

00:28:31 Speaker 1

Absolutely.

00:28:32 Speaker 2

Look for me.

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And introduce yourself if you do come by.

00:28:35 Speaker 2

I'll be the frows of one.

00:28:36 Speaker 1

Okay, I can do that.

00:28:38 Speaker 2

Hey, the memories are here.

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You just got to come and find them.

00:28:40 Speaker 1

And I am so impressed because in 2002, we had not started the radio program.

00:28:46 Speaker 1

This is our 17th year.

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And we did an early program on agritourism.

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And we got a lot of calls about why would anybody ever do that?

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And I thought, you have never tried to make bills on a farm.

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And yeah, there's a lot of things you'll do that you didn't think you'd ever do.

00:29:00 Speaker 1

Yeah, and to make it successful and year over year and to have the

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following that you have.

00:29:04 Speaker 1

I'm very excited to come.

00:29:05 Speaker 1

If we want to find you, is there a website that we can find you at?

00:29:08 Speaker 2

We're at cornfusion.net.

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We'll be coming to look for you.

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We'll make some connections there in the maze.

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I hope the listeners have had a good time, and we plan to come see you and share the joy of the agritourism on your farm.

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Plan your fall events well.

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We'll see you at the farm.

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I hope the connections we've raised today stay with you as you engage your community through critters, companions, commerce, and agriculture.

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Join me again next week.

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We'll make some more connections.

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