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Binoculars & Habitats: Birds, Migration, and the Nature Around Us 02-23-2026

Rachann Mayer Season 9 Episode 8

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In celebration of the Howard County Bird Club's 54th year, Rachann talks with club president Val Swan and longtime club member Bonnie Ott about the rhythms, surprises, and hidden patterns that shape the lives of birds across our landscapes.  We highlight the connections between birds, plants, pollinators, and habitat diversity. It’s a conversation that invites listeners to slow down, look closer, and rediscover the living world around them. 

Howard County Bird Club

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I'm Ray Shan Mayer.

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Let's raise some connections.

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Here we go.

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Today, as always, we have a set of fun and interesting guests.

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Could you ladies introduce yourself?

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You're from the Howard County Bird Club.

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Yes, thank you for having me.

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My name is Val Swan and I'm the president of the Howard County Bird Club.

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And I am Bonnie Ott, a longtime member of the Howard County Bird Club and very excited to be here.

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And I have to say for all of our listeners, these two ladies have been incredibly generous.

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Our first recording did not go well.

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It had no words.

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So we had our silent spring.

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I appreciate you both for coming back.

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Pleasure.

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You are part of the Howard County Bird Club.

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What is that, and how did it form?

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Wow, so we're in our 54th year.

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Congratulations.

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We're an all-volunteer 501c3 with about 500 members, and we're a division chapter of the Maryland Ornithological Society.

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Is the Ornithological Society only in Maryland, or is it a national organization?

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We are part of the Maryland Ornithological Society, but every single state has their own ornithological society.

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And then there are big universal groups.

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groups that people might also become members of.

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But our club is one of many chapters in Maryland, and not every county has its own chapter.

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Some, like on the Eastern Shore, might call themselves the Tri-State chapters because their population density is not as big, so they join together.

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But Howard County is one of the largest chapters member-wise.

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What do you think makes the Howard County chapter so involved?

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I think we have a

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huge variety of things that we offer people.

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So there's something for everyone.

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We have a variety of different types of field trips.

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Regular, we have field trips for beginners.

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We have a whole young birder division where it's students taking other students out for field trips.

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So that's a great wing of the bird club, so to speak.

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I love that.

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Yeah.

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And then we have field trips that target specific birds like owls or woodcocks.

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Or if you have mobility issues, we have feeder watches.

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or a sky watch you can go to.

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There's a little bit of everything that's offered.

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We play games, wingspan, bird trivia.

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We pick up trash.

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We're involved with eco events.

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I think there's something to please all peoples out there.

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I would also say that we have so many talented members of our group that have varying interests in the outdoors.

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So we do also do butterfly.

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A huge chapter of field trips are going to be butterfly related.

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So we do field trips that might involve looking at dragonflies, wildflowers.

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So we are primarily a bird club, but as anybody will tell you, birding is the gateway into nature.

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So we also expand out our field trips to do other things that involve other natural creatures besides birds.

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And those other natural creatures are part of the environment that help sustain the birds.

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That is correct.

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And for example, the next program that I'll be doing for the club is going to be relating to habitat.

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and how you bird a habitat, and then also the different creatures that are going to be in that habitat.

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All important stuff, really important things.

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If we decide that we want to go birding, in my mind, I'm picturing, I'm taking a field guide, I'm taking a pair of binoculars, and I'm wearing a hat.

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I don't know why I'm wearing a hat, but I'm wearing a hat, and I'm setting out somewhere.

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Where do you go to bird?

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Oh, so many places.

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If you have specific birds you're looking for, you're going to look in the habitat where they would

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would be found.

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But if you just want to go out and enjoy nature and look at the birds, you can go to local parks, you can go to field edges, woods, ponds.

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It depends on what you're looking for.

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So we have site guides on our website which explain all the different places in the county that you can go to.

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Are there certain times of the year?

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When I see myself putting a hat on, it's because it's sunny.

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And I guess that means it's summer when I'm heading out to do this.

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But every season has different birds.

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Absolutely.

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That's part of the beauty of birdwatching is the unfolding of migration and the seasons.

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And by the way, we wear our hats year round.

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And that's because you don't want glare, because you're looking everywhere all the time, up, down, back and forth, in through the trees, behind the ponds.

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You just don't want that glare.

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But the unfolding of the seasons is really awesome.

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It's part of what keeps birdwatching interesting throughout the year as things change.

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So you'd have to understand migration.

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to understand the unfolding of the birds.

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So migration is the northern movement of birds, mostly at night, and they're going to their...

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spring breeding grounds where they're looking for areas where they have ample area to build their nests and ample nesting materials and enough food to raise their young.

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So getting back to habitat and pollinators, for example, a chickadee brood needs six to nine thousand caterpillars to raise that brood.

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That is a buffet.

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So that's the northern movement in the spring for breeding and then the birds return in the fall to just survive the winter.

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from where they came from.

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I'd say about half of our birds in North America migrate, 650 species approximately in North America.

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And some migrate really far.

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The Arctic tern greater than 50,000 miles per year travel.

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I've got to stop you there.

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The Arctic tern.

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Does that mean they're going around the Arctic?

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What does the Arctic tern mean?

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So the Arctic tern travels from one pole to the next for migration.

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So northern breeding, southern wintering.

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Got it.

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That's what it

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means.

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Okay, the north to south migration?

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Correct.

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So some birds you're going to see in the warm months if they come and they breed here in the United States in Maryland and Howard County.

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And some birds you're going to see in the winter months where they're southern non-breeding location.

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Birds that are out now, maybe you've seen the dark-eyed junco at your feeder.

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Little gray bird with a pink bill and a white belly.

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Super cute.

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I like how your eyes light up when you say these.

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They're adorable.

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And then some birds are just migrating by passing

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over Howard County.

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So you're only going to see them for three weeks or four weeks in May as they're traveling N.

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Cape May warbler comes to mind.

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So Cape May warbler is flying from the Caribbean and Central America all the way to Canada and is passing over our heads in May and breeding up there and then coming back in the fall.

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So you'll see Cape May warbler in May and then also in September.

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When it makes the return trip.

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When it makes the return trip, exactly.

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So you'll see different birds, different

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times of year.

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When we see those migratory patterns, and we know that there's a time on the calendar that they might be coming through, but our weather patterns, especially this winter, when we've had so much snow here in the Maryland area and in the snow stayed around for so long, does it affect that migratory, or do climate changes affect the migratory patterns?

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So the true neotropical migrants, which are the ones that are coming from Central South America, that's hardwired, and the weather is not going to really make any difference

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with those.

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But we do see patterns like this season has been extremely exciting because of the cold and with the Great Lakes freezing, that has sent a lot of those northern waterfowl that would normally be there down here into the more what we would call mid-Atlantic states.

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So we have an advantage of seeing some of those birds that would not normally come down here.

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So weather patterns will affect birds that are more local and regional, but not the true migrants because they're

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moving differently.

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And that's all hardwired.

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But I was just thinking because I was so excited thinking about migration, because for birders, mid-February is the start.

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So the first thing that we would see would be American woodcock, which are the earliest ones to start moving.

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And so we're kind of waiting for that first one to show up.

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It's a very exciting time.

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I know we've had listeners e-mail in and say, is it the robins?

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But it's the woodcock.

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What does the woodcock look like?

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Top heavy with the bill.

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It's a stout little shorebird with an extremely long, heavy bill.

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Would we see it in the Frederick, Maryland, Howard County area if it's a shorebird?

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Yes, it's a very interesting shorebird that actually has nothing to do with the water.

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It is a land shorebird, and they have a really fascinating sky dance when they're doing their mating display.

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And so the colloquial name is Timberdoodle, and so the club

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field trips where we go out just at dusk because they do this beautiful display right at one or two candle power of light.

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And so we go out to the fields where they might be breeding and stand and wait for the first one to do his little pink call.

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They do this little pink, pink, and then they fly up in the air, do these cool

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incredible spirals and then come back down to the ground.

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And if you go to where they flew up from, they'll land in exactly that spot.

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So you can be right there when they land in front of you.

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So they're Olympic gymnasts.

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Yes, they are.

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Oh my goodness.

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Robins aren't the first to come back in our area.

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So much of the myth around says spring happens when the first robins return.

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No, there's other birds that are the sentinels.

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So robins really do spend the winter here, but they change their habits.

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And often in the wintertime, they're in larger flocks and they're in the woodlands.

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So people don't necessarily notice them or see them.

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There are some what's called leapfrog migrations.

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So our robins may go to Virginia,

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Pennsylvania robins may come to us.

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There's a little bit of a shifting with these birds, but they do stay here all winter.

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I think what's happening when people see them in that first spring is that those winter feeding flocks are starting to break up and come back to their suburban lawns that they love to find their nesting places and then also look for worms, different food sources now that the ground is warming up and they can go back to eating their insects.

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That makes sense.

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And you

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You brought up something I'm sure many of us have seen, but maybe not know what we're seeing.

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You said the feeding flock.

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When we see birds who almost look like a graphic in the sky as they move, it's a lot of birds almost moving in a pattern formation.

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Is that a feeding flock?

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No, and the word for that is murmuration.

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Murmuration.

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So you'll see a murmuration of birds, and some of the most common birds that would do that would be our European

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which is actually an introduced species, but they will create those beautiful flocks.

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And that's actually a defensive mechanism that would confuse a predator when they move like that.

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It makes it appear like it's one large organism.

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And it's harder for, say, a predatory hawk to come in and pick one bird out of that flock because they're moving in unison, like fish do in the ocean.

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Got it.

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And say the word again for me.

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Murmuration.

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A murmuration.

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So it's not a school

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like fish, it's a murmuration of birds.

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That's correct.

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All the things we learn.

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I love this.

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When the migration starts, we just have birds moving everywhere.

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What do you think attracts people to bird watching?

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It's probably not the hat and the binoculars and the field guide that I'm heading out with.

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Maybe it is.

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It's probably something more that keeps them coming back.

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For me, it's the love of outdoors to being

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in nature, where when you get to be a good listener, it's akin to maybe picking out all the individual instruments of the orchestra.

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When I step outside of my house and I can easily identify 8 birds singing at the same time, of course in the spring when they're singing, you feel like you're surrounded with friends, you're never alone, and you can really get quiet and listen, clear your mind, you're paying attention, watching, listening, it's therapeutic almost in a way.

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And then there's some people that I think are attracted to the idea of solving a mystery, identifying birds, or the competitiveness of having a yard list, a county list, a state list, a year list, a life list.

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And the movie The Big Year addresses that.

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You can birdwatch alone or you can birdwatch in a group.

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Birds are beautiful and their behavior is just fascinating.

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Do those behaviors, we've talked about migration, but do those behaviors of the birds signal things?

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Perhaps blue jays are watchers and there's different off-air, you were talking about crows trying to get into a trash can and being surprised by a squirrel.

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Does the movement of the birds that you're seeing

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alert us to anything.

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So I think for me, having birded for about 45 years, every day is special and you never know what interesting behavior you will see with birds that you might consider common and that you would see in your yard, maybe every day.

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There's always something fascinating happening.

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And every time you're looking at a bird and the season is changing, they are changing with the season, doing something different.

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Winter has been very hard on a lot of birds with the snow and ice on the ground.

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So you can kind of look and see, you know, with some heartfelt sympathy, they're just trying to survive day-to-day finding food, which is very difficult with this ice and snow.

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And then you get that first spring cardinal song, the male singing from the top of the tree, starting to announce his territory.

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And you're like, okay, spring is here.

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He's singing, trying to attract his first mate.

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And then you go

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into that breeding season, you might have that same bird, but then you can watch them nest building, looking for food, feeding their chicks, and then when the young come out, and then you just have the whole cycle of life through the seasons, and it might be that same cardinal pair that's in your yard.

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I love that.

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Are there benefits to bird watching or being involved with a society such as the Ornithological Society or Howard County?

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Well, there's the social aspect of being part of a club.

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Our field trips often have up to 40 participants, so there's that social aspect and we play the games and we have a potluck, so there is definitely a social component.

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But there's also a sense of not only community there, but participating in conservation projects.

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So the Howard

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Bird Club is involved with a lot of conservation projects and also some research projects.

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So there's a satisfaction there that you're part of a bigger picture in helping the birds because we know that we've lost 30% of our bird population since the 70s from outdoor cats because even well-fed kitty is an apex predator.

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That surprises me.

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So the cat population affects the bird population.

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Oh, absolutely.

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It's one of the three main causes of avian death is outdoor cats.

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Not only

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feral colonies, but people that let their cats outdoors.

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And as I said, even if they're well fed, they hunt.

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They can't help but hunch.

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It's ingrained in them.

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And then there's bird strikes on windows is another cause of avian death.

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So the Howard County Bird Club has supported making safe glass in various nature centers, as well as in private homes.

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We have information about that on our website.

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And then we have all kinds of other conservation efforts to create more habitat.

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We put in an 11-acre pollinator meadow along

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The Howard County Concert.

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Conservancy at the Conservancy, which should be blooming this spring, full of butterflies for our butterfly walks and surveys.

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And then we've built a shorebird habitat on a private farm.

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We've supported the Common Tern Raft Project, just a whole variety of different projects, building purple martin houses and wood duck boxes and supporting the birds.

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When we come back, can we talk about the larger purpose of ornithological societies?

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Welcome back to Raising Connections.

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Today we're talking with two folks from

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from the Howard County Bird Club.

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How did you personally get involved?

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How did you get where you are?

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How did you end up in the bird club?

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My dad was a big birder, and my sister and I would go birding with my dad when we were five and six years old.

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So the passion was created by my father, who was a nature lover.

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So I would be bird watching, and I would bump into people like Bonnie out in the field, and people would just mention the club.

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So I joined.

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And how about you, Bonnie?

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I was one of the children that grew up in the woods and loved

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birds in nature from very early on.

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And I was very lucky.

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My best friend in high school, her mother was a very serious birder and in the Maryland Ornithological Society, and they invited me to come on the birding convention with them.

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And so I went for my first bird convention in Frostburg, Maryland.

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Just absolutely took me down the path of lifelong love of birds and birding.

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And so ever since then, I have been birding every day, and it is one of the passions of my life.

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I love that.

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You never

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know when that spark is going to hit somebody?

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You talked earlier about the youth leading youth on field trips, and you just never know when that spark's going to hit.

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I was very lucky getting into the club when I was young, and I had so many mentors.

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To this day, they are still my best friends that encouraged me, helped me, taught me.

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And I think that's what's so lovely about the Bird Club is that there's so many people that are giving their time, energy to just help

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people explore and become familiar with birds and birding.

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I know we have folks that have gotten married from meeting through the club, and it is for people that might not be comfortable going out into the woods alone, that you have people that you can go with.

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And we do small groups where we go out just as friends to the more organized field trips.

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And then we have the bird counts, which are the highlights of the year with having spring, fall, winter counts.

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and a Christmas bird count where we go out and every person takes a part of the county and every single bird is counted during the entire day, gone to dusk.

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And those bird counts help feed information because part of the function of being a society and part of the Maryland Ornithological Society is to provide data to projects.

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Yes, it's definitely citizen science and we can look at shifts and trends and populations to guide our conservation efforts.

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What are some of those projects?

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We have done three different breeding bird atlases for Maryland.

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And in fact, Maryland was the first breeding bird atlas ever done.

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And that was organized by Chandler Robbins, who's kind of thought of as the godfather of birding for us.

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But they're wonderful projects that have, over the course of time, really given information on breeding birds in the state and those changes in populations.

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And I can see

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it in my 45 years of birding here.

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You know, there's just some very, very big changes that have happened with new birds showing up because of range expansion.

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You know, if you go back to the 1900s, we didn't have cardinals here.

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Oh, really?

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Yes.

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Cardinals are a bird that has moved its range northward and is still doing so.

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Same with, like, tufted titmouse, Carolina wren.

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A lot of these birds were more southern species and now have become our common birds here.

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and we're getting new birds all the time that I never expected to see here.

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Some birds that have been coming up like anhinga, we had black-bellied whistling duck.

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We're getting a lot of different species moving northward, but sad to say, we have birds that were very common here when I started birding that I can no longer find at all.

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Do you think they've moved north or have they expired?

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They unfortunately are extirpated due to probably habitat loss is the number one reason.

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When I was in school,

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at one point in my life.

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There was a big conversation in the Midwest about having open space versus fences and fence rows, and what happens when the fences and fence rows changes, because the habitat changes.

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With the building and with conservatories and locations, many of our counties have decided there are locations within the counties to have certain activities.

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Do you see the birds paying attention to the master plans?

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I think Val could expand on if you build it, they will come.

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And if you create habitat, as the club has done with the wetland area at Waterford.

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Yeah, so we built a shorebird habitat on a private farm, which creates a mudflat place for the shorebirds to feed as they're migrating back and forth in the spring and fall, because they need shallow water and they eat the little crustaceans and insects in the mud.

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So we've created that.

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And as Bonnie said, if you

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build it, they will come.

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People put in more native plants into their yards, maybe get rid of some of your lawn, a little bit less mowing, leave the leaves in their yards.

00:22:13 Speaker 2

That'll promote more insects, more caterpillars, more food supply, more shelter for the birds and native plants.

00:22:20 Speaker 1

With that, I have two questions that are just hot and burning for me.

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And

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Every year, I have one particular fruit tree that I battle bagworms in that one particular tree.

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Can the birds help me?

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Am I providing habitat, or are those bagworms part of what the wrens might need?

00:22:38 Speaker 1

Earlier in the conversation, we talked about how many caterpillars might be needed to raise broods of birds.

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When I see these caterpillars, part of my education says, go out and clip the branch and get rid of the caterpillars, and part of what I'm hearing today is keep the caterpillars

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caterpillars are great food.

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There are different caterpillars, and by species of caterpillars, there are different birds that will eat those caterpillars.

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So, for example, there's a bird that we have here, the yellow-billed cuckoo.

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It is one of the few species of birds that will be able to eat those very hairy caterpillars, and they can do so because what they do is they actually can slough off their stomach lining every few days and eject it out of their body, and that stomach lining

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traps all the hairs from the caterpillars so they can eat those hairy caterpillars and then it doesn't harm the bird.

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Many species of birds will need to eat different caterpillars that don't have the hairs, but yellow-billed cuckoos and also orioles can eat those species of caterpillars.

00:23:42 Speaker 3

So I would leave the caterpillars because they will really help certain species of birds.

00:23:47 Speaker 1

That's absolutely fascinating.

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So I guess I have to ask this question.

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When I was in school, again, going back to my

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education, I was taught about owl balls and I mistakenly thought that that meant a round owl.

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Because when I was growing up, the question was how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll?

00:24:07 Speaker 1

That is not what that meant at all.

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And when you talk about the ability to eat the hairy caterpillars and then injecting the stomach lining, is that like an owl ball?

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And what is an owl ball?

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We should talk about first.

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Owl pellets are regurgitated bones, teeth, etc.

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And you can

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actually identify an owl based on the type of bones and teeth found in the pellet.

00:24:30 Speaker 1

So it's a pellet, not a ball.

00:24:32 Speaker 2

Pellet, yeah.

00:24:33 Speaker 1

In the Midwest, everybody I knew called them owl balls.

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It was the first time I moved out this way.

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I realized that they were called pellets and I was looking for something extruded like food.

00:24:41 Speaker 3

Owl pellets are fascinating and a lot of people will take them home and then dissect the pellet to find out what bones are inside.

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And you can

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like Val said, tell what species of creatures the owl has eaten because of the pellet.

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And I will say there was a family of barred owls, which is one of our more common owl, over at Rockburn Branch Park.

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And I would go to collect their pellets, and they almost always were crayfish.

00:25:10 Speaker 3

Crayfish shell was what they were primarily feeding on.

00:25:13 Speaker 1

Just fascinating.

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We can learn so much about our environment and what's going on and how everything works together.

00:25:21 Speaker 1

With the changes that you've seen over the years of birdwatching and with bringing new groups into the club and educating new folks, do you find that you continue to learn things to bring value to you?

00:25:33 Speaker 2

Oh, absolutely.

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You can always learn from other people.

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In fact, I learn from Bonnie every time I'm in her presence.

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I didn't know about the stomach lining of the yellow-billed cuckoo, so thank you for that, Bonnie.

00:25:45 Speaker 2

Absolutely.

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I mean, there's so much to learn about birdwatching.

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I think that's, there's an arch just to bird watching.

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And then the behaviors and the migration, the field marks, there's an intellectual challenge there.

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You learn every day.

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When we started off the conversation, I said that there were two things that were hot and burning for me.

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The second one was, should we be using backyard bird feeders?

00:26:09 Speaker 1

I've heard this is controversial, but maybe not.

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Do we use these or do we not use these?

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Do we convert our yards?

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Do we put out the bird baths?

00:26:17 Speaker 1

Do we not put out the bird, how do we do this?

00:26:20 Speaker 2

Certainly this winter, feeders have been extremely important for the birds because of the ice cover.

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It's probably best to always go back to nature and put in native plants, but we've lost so much habitat that supporting the birds in the winter, I think, is a good idea.

00:26:36 Speaker 2

You just need to make sure that you keep your feeders clean and full.

00:26:41 Speaker 1

Clean's a big deal.

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Last year, I learned a lot about the hummingbirds and what happened if the feeders weren't clean.

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There were fungal diseases that were being passed and the tongues would swell and then they couldn't get air or food and they would expire.

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How do you clean a bird feeder?

00:26:57 Speaker 3

With hummingbird feeders, it's a wonderful way to bring nature and hummingbirds close to you, but it's very important to get a easy to clean feeder.

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So sometimes you see very beautiful decorative hummingbird feeders

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that are blown glass, and they're just impossible to clean.

00:27:14 Speaker 3

So we usually recommend getting something that's very easy to dishwasher clean.

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And then the most important thing is to change the nectar frequently.

00:27:24 Speaker 3

In the summertime, I change mine every other day.

00:27:27 Speaker 3

That's just the most important with getting hummingbirds to come safely to your yard, is just make sure you have fresh nectar, which is just sugar and water, and then also to keep that feeder clean.

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And the same thing with your maybe tube feeder or platform feeder.

00:27:41 Speaker 3

It's good on occasion to make sure that you're keeping that clean, scrub it down, just so that you don't want birds to be able to transmit diseases to one another.

00:27:51 Speaker 1

When you spoke about the birds that used to be in this area and now they're not, that's been a little over a hundred years of change and things are always changing.

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And then you said native plants, we should plant those native plants to keep our bird population supported and to provide them the food sources that are in community with those plants.

00:28:10 Speaker 1

Birds are migrating and plants are changing and they're caterpillars and they're insects, they're helping keep our mosquito populations, they're helping us with that balance.

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months.

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Are the birds also sharing what they bring with them on their migratory paths or in their diets?

00:28:28 Speaker 3

Well, I do know that there are a lot of birds now that are eating some of our non-native trees and shrub berries, like you go to Bradford pear or tear thumb, myla minuteweed, autumn olives.

00:28:41 Speaker 3

They will eat all of those foods.

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Unfortunately, then they will spread them by their movements and then when they're

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leaving their droppings, those seeds can germinate.

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So they are spreading those non-native plants.

00:28:57 Speaker 3

I don't know personally if the berries have as much nutrition as if they were going to eat a native grape or pokeweed or some of the berries and fruits that we have.

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But I would think that there's probably, it would be much better for them if they could just stick with our native plant.

00:29:14 Speaker 1

It sounds like we have another program to do.

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We have some more education and learning.

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And you know, every time you make those connections,

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your mind goes, I wonder about that.

00:29:24 Speaker 1

For me, pulkweed is one of the things that we used to eat when it was very young.

00:29:28 Speaker 1

As humans, we would eat it.

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And then as it grew, it was not okay to eat.

00:29:33 Speaker 1

And then Elvis Presley sang about it.

00:29:35 Speaker 1

And then we would come in and we would be covered in the ink from the pulkberries.

00:29:39 Speaker 1

It's just very interesting.

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And now I look at the pulkberries and I look at the bird droppings and I look at my car and I think, I'm really not a fan of those pulkberries.

00:29:48 Speaker 1

You both have so many bird experiences and so many bird stories.

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I'm going to ask the hardest question of them all.

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Are you ready for this?

00:29:56 Speaker 3

Yes.

00:29:57 Speaker 1

What is your favorite bird?

00:29:59 Speaker 2

Oh, that's easy for me.

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It's the white-breasted nuthatch.

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Flashy little bird, small, easy to identify, has an interesting little voice.

00:30:08 Speaker 2

It goes ha, ha, ha, which sounds French to me.

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And they have this behavioral characteristic, which is unique to nuthatches.

00:30:16 Speaker 2

And I guess the black and white warbler does this too, but it looks like a zebra, so it's easier to identify.

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But they walk face first down the tree trunks.

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And I just find that really cool.

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I enjoy watching that.

00:30:29 Speaker 1

I have to admit, those are one of my favorites.

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When we would be out riding horses, you sound like an animal walking through, and you would be able to see the nuthatches face first down the trees.

00:30:38 Speaker 1

I was always so impressed by that.

00:30:40 Speaker 1

Bonnie, what about you?

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What is your favorite bird?

00:30:42 Speaker 3

Well, I have to go back to my first birding convention when I saw my first Lincoln's sparrow.

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So I love our native sparrows.

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To me, they are just an exquisite group of birds with

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their subtle, beautiful, soft, brown, russet, coppery tones.

00:31:04 Speaker 3

And Lincoln Sparrow was a bird that I had never heard of, and I remember seeing it on a field trip, and I just thought it was the most gorgeous bird I had ever seen.

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And that, to me, has been with me all.

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all my life remembering seeing that Lincoln sparrow that first time when I was 16 years old.

00:31:23 Speaker 3

And I think the beauty of native sparrows are that they really make you pay attention.

00:31:29 Speaker 3

You can't just go to a field guide when you see a sparrow and figure it out.

00:31:35 Speaker 3

You have to learn the nuance of the bird.

00:31:37 Speaker 3

It's so difficult because so many sparrows look alike and their field marks are alike, and you have to learn their kind of essence to know which one is which.

00:31:47 Speaker 1

Interesting.

00:31:48 Speaker 1

If we want to go on one of the field trips, if we want to become part of the Howard County Bird Club, if we want to get involved with the Bird Counts, how do we find you?

00:31:58 Speaker 2

Oh, well, first of all, you don't need to be a member to attend any of our events.

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Everyone is welcome, and we have loaner binoculars.

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If you need them, we can arrange for that.

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We have a website, Howard County Bird Club, and a calendar with our events listed.

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There's a Contact Me at the bottom of the

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website.

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If you have any questions, you're welcome to ask, and we'd love to have people come with us.

00:32:23 Speaker 1

I appreciate you both, Val and Bonnie, for being with us and sharing your love of nature and all of the things that you spend your time on to make our community richer.

00:32:33 Speaker 1

Thank you.

00:32:34 Speaker 2

Thank you.

00:32:35 Speaker 3

Thank you very much.

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It's been wonderful being here.

00:32:37 Speaker 1

I hope you as our listener have had a really, ooh, that was a neat connection moment.

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Go ahead and look at some birds today.

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I hope the connections we've raised today stay with you as you engage your community through critters, companions, commerce, and agriculture.

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Join me again next week.

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We'll make some more connections.

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This program is a production of Raising Connections Media Company, hosted and produced by Rashan Mayer and edited and mixed by Robin Temple.