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Traveling with Dogs: Comfort, Training, and Real-World Tips 03-02-2026

Rachann Mayer Season 9 Episode 9

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Traveling with a dog is a journey filled with small details that make a big difference. In this episode Rachann talks with Joyce Johnson from Fora Travel about everything from choosing the right airline or ground transport to keeping pets comfortable with familiar items, calm routines, and thoughtful preparation. Health certificates, vaccines, microchips, and reentry rules are explained in a friendly, approachable way, along with everyday essentials like food, water, toys, and cleanup supplies. This conversation helps you feel confident, organized, and ready for the adventure ahead. 

Joyce Johnson | Fora Travel

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Welcome to Raising Connections, connecting your community to others through Critters, Companions, Commerce, and Agriculture.

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I'm Ray Shan Mayer.

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Let's raise some connections.

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Here we go.

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Today, as always, we have a fun and interesting guest and a personal friend, Joyce Johnson from Forward Travel.

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Welcome.

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Good morning, Rashawn.

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It's so nice to be here.

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Can you give us your name and tell us what you do at Forward Travel?

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I'm Joyce Johnson, and I'm a travel advisor with Forward Travel, and I help people plan and book their trips around the world, locally, wherever they want to go.

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I do their travel wishlist.

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What is the difference between a travel agent and a travel advisor?

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Nothing really.

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It's just a more updated

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term.

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I'll be darned.

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Have you found a cycle with folks leaving travel agencies and then going to Google or online booking and now returning to travel advisors?

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Yes, because there's so many options out there and it's so time consuming.

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And if you're only looking for the best price and not the best experience, go ahead and book through Google.

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But if you want to really enjoy yourself and have a stress free trip, then travel advisor is really your best bet.

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You also have experience in the

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dog world, and that brings a unique perspective to when you're arranging traveling for your clients and guests.

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What is your experience in the dog world?

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I have currently six French Bulldogs that are all champions or grand champions.

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We enjoy the dog show world, and along with that, I have lots of questions about how do I travel with them if I need to go a long distance.

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So I did a lot of research looking up flying with your pets, both domestically and internationally, and that's been a huge help in my

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travel advisory role.

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How did you find this job was for you?

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That's a great question.

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I love to travel.

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I love doing the research.

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I love learning about places.

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And it seemed to be a natural pivot as I was leaving my last role as a real estate agent and moving towards an area in my life where I just want to spend more time traveling.

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Because I travel so much, I have friends and family constantly reaching out to me.

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Can you help me plan my travel?

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So it was a really natural

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pivot into this new career.

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One of the options that we always tell our daughter and so many of the folks who are looking at different parts of their life is you can change careers anytime you want.

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There's always skills to transfer.

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Absolutely.

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I don't think that at 18 or 20 or 25, you can pick a career for life.

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I think you have to be willing to constantly try new things.

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And that's basically how I've lived my life.

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I did many things over a career of 35 years, and on average, every five to seven years, I'd be like, okay, this was great.

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I'm really good at this, but I need to learn something else.

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And then I would change careers.

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It's so easy, as long as you just do your research and make the effort.

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I love that.

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You probably made very many listeners very happy this morning.

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In planning all the travel and having the dog experience that came from the show world,

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What is the most asked question when you're arranging travel and if somebody wants to take their dog with them?

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What do I need to do to get the dog on the plane?

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So you have to have health documentation.

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Your pet should always be microchipped.

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You want to make sure that your pet can fit either under the seat in front of you.

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If it's a large dog, you might want to be able to pay an extra fee for the seat next to you so they can sit in it.

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varies by airlines.

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I might want my small Bichot in the seat next to me, but I also have

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a hundred plus pound dog.

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That's a Shepherd Mountain Dog mix.

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Do I pay for a seat for them next to me?

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And how does that work?

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Yes and no.

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It varies.

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Depending upon the airline, you have to really reach out to them what they want.

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A lot of the larger dogs, they suggest to put in the hold, blow, in the belly of the plane.

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I don't recommend doing that at all.

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So there have now are a number of airlines, such as Bark Air, which is owned by the company that owns BarkBox, they actually have

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have planes that they fly around the country and internationally where they cater to you and your dog.

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The dog sits freely on the floor or in the seat next to you.

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It's more of an upscale pricing, but it's a great way to travel if you can do it with your pet.

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You don't have to put them in the hold and they're not in a crate.

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Interesting.

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When you say that they can move around freely, that means they can get up and down the aisle.

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Well, it's not a traditional plane layout.

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It's a lot more roomy and it's a smaller plane.

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And so yeah, you can move them around.

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You can have them in like a dog bed at your feet if they're more comfortable there.

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As long as they get along with everybody and the dogs on the plane, they have to have good manners.

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Yeah, it's pretty interesting how it's evolved to really accommodate people and their pets.

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What A phenomenal service.

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What is the typical person who takes advantage of such a setup?

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People who want to travel with their dogs and they make sure that they're able to do it in a way that makes life easier.

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So if you're on a private plane with your dog, it's easier.

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You're not in these big, long lines.

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You don't have to wait amongst people trying to board at the gate.

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You walk out to the tarmac and you're up the stairs and you're in your seat.

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It's a lot easier to travel.

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Some of it is price restrictive.

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It depends upon the amount of time you're going away and what the ultimate need is for you and your pet.

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That makes sense, because if you're boarding a dog or having a pet sitter come in, it may be the same cost as doing something like Bark Air for those longer trips.

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And that actually makes sense.

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If dogs are traveling on an airplane, I'm sure they have to have health certificates, and those would come through the USDA, I would assume.

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Is that something that you as a travel advisor can help with?

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It's one of those things that they need to secure.

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I don't know the dog's history.

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I don't have access to their medical records.

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And plus, you have to go take your dog in, and the veterinary clinic and the doctor have to sign off on these forms, and then you would submit them.

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So, for example, the biggest thing, especially if you're going to the EU, you absolutely have to have proof of your rabies vaccine, and it has to be at least vaccinated no less than 21 days before travel.

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you have to make sure it's vaccinated.

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It has to be microchipped.

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You have to go through the USDA accreditation to attain an international health certificate.

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There's a timeline too.

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So you have to start this whole process three to six months in advance for vaccinations, titer tests, and vet appointments.

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It's the process.

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So if you know you want to travel with your dog when you have a trip coming up, you literally have to pre-plan everything out within that three to six months start time.

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It's also dependent on the age.

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So if you have a puppy when they can't have their rabies vaccinated,

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until, what, six months old maybe, you have to actually wait that amount of time because the EU will not let you in without a rabies vaccination certificate.

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So we're not going to just hop on a plane and go.

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We're going to make some plans.

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We're going to talk with an advisor.

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If we're going to make some special arrangements, perhaps with Bark Air or some other special arrangements, we're thinking this process through, and that's where you come in to help us think these things through.

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Yes, that's what I do.

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Now I have to ask what may seem like a crazy question.

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When I get on a plane and travel, my ears pop.

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Do the dog's ears pop?

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Is there something that we do?

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How does the pressure affect them?

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It's similar to us.

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You'll see them yawning a lot.

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Sometimes yawning helps relieve the pressure.

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Yawning is also related to if they're a little stressed.

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If your dog starts yawning a lot on the plane, it might be a little stressed.

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Their ears might be bothering them.

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You just have to be really reassuring.

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You can rub behind their ears a little bit.

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They will pop just like ours do eventually.

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It's all relative to the cabin pressure.

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A lot of the airlines that are specific to people and their pets are aware of this, and they can help you out with that when you're on board.

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If you realize that your pet's having a little bit of distress because of their ears, they're good about that.

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Do we need to prepare?

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If I'm traveling with a human and it's a small child, I would prepare the Cheerios, the extra water, and then probably get to the checkpoint and realize the extra water can't go, but the Cheerios can.

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Are there certain things when we travel with the dogs that we might want to take that we need to be aware of to get onto the plane or have as comfort for the dogs?

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I always like to bring a toy from home that they've been playing

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with that's comforting.

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You want to make sure you pack food.

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You want to have their medications, a leash, poop bags, and copies of all of your documentation.

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A little water bottle that has a built-in bowl at the edge is great so that they can sip water when they need it.

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It's just like packing for your kid.

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You pack them for your dog.

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Everything that you think they might need, you put in a little carry-on bag and you have it at your fingertips.

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When we come back, I have one of the most interesting questions.

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Where do the dogs go to the bathroom when they're traveling?

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That's a good question, and I do have answers.

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Welcome back to Raising Connections.

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Today we're talking about traveling with dogs and especially air travel.

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All right, I know where I go to the bathroom when I'm traveling, and if there's a layover, how I do that, but where do the dogs go to the bathroom when they're traveling?

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At airports, there are designated areas for your dog to do their business, and so 15-20 minutes before you need to be at the gate, take your dog, they're usually pretty easy

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to find, you can pretty much go right online to Google and tell them which airport you're in and where is the dog facility, and you can map it and just go.

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Once you're on the plane, it's a little bit more difficult.

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So for dogs that are in their dog carriers, I always recommend putting a pee pad underneath the blanket because on longer flights, they might urinate right in there and people understand that happens.

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So in addition to all the other things you might pack for your dog, make sure you bring a trash bag so you can put their soiled bedding into it when you get off the plane.

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What does the inside of an airport dog bathroom look like?

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They don't have toilets, so what's in that doggy bathroom?

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So usually you walk in and there's a big window so they can see outside and there's like a fleet grass area with maybe a hydrant on it.

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There's like a watering station, a trash can, poop bags, and so you would put your dog on it.

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onto the grassy area and let them do your business.

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You clean up.

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And then a lot of times there's like a sanitizing mist that's sprayed over it.

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It depends upon the airport or they might have somebody come in and clean.

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I've never walked into one in an airport that wasn't relatively clean.

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I've never had one that smelled terrible.

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So I think they do a good job of maintaining hygiene.

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Did the dog bathrooms come from the travel world, or do they come from the service dog world?

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I believe they started as a service dog world, and then just because people travel all the time, they become a little fancier and cleaner and well-maintained.

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I could see that the folks who are in the service dog world and the folks that are in the pet dog world share the same bathrooms, and their respect, I think you really went to very well there with they're clean.

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People are respecting that the service dogs as well as the dogs who

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traveling for pleasure or for need are all respectful of the ability to travel.

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Is that what you're finding?

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I do find that because nobody wants to sit next to a stinky dog.

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For dogs to be welcome on planes with a lot of different people, there are people out there that don't care for pets, right?

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They're not a dog person or a cat person.

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So you want to make sure if you're sitting next to one of those that your dog is respectful of that person's space as well.

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You want to make sure that your dog stays sanitary, that they're quiet, they're well-behaved, and it's important to

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you practice putting your pet into a carrier well before you get on the plane for the first time with your pet.

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There is a little bit of practice to everything.

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There is a little bit of training.

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You want to make sure that your pet is going to be as comfortable as possible.

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So people who are advocates for crate training are already into the process of preparing their pet to get into a carrier and travel.

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Finding those safe places for your dog or cat is very important when you're traveling.

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Are there specific things that you advise your clients

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to prepare for in training other than a crate when the dogs travel.

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Well, it would be their, the carry-on, their dog carrier, their cat carrier.

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Similar to how you crate train, the carrier out at home, leave the door open, let them go in and out, let them explore it, let them find comfort in it because that's gonna be their safe space while traveling.

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Can those carriers have wheels?

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Oh yes, and I highly recommend it.

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It's well worth spending the extra few dollars to get a carrier that you can wheel because at an airport, lugging everything is a lot.

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and you have a lot of people and it's just like pulling your suitcase if it doesn't have wheels.

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It's the same concept.

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a 20 pound.

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dog becomes very heavy after a few minutes.

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Absolutely.

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If you're not on wheels.

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Absolutely.

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In flying a domestic flight versus an international, is there a difference?

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Absolutely.

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It's a little bit easier.

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Let's say you get on one of the carriers that are very dog friendly, and there's quite a few of those.

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I would just call directly to the airline after you book your flight, tell them what flight you're on, and ask them if they have availability, you want to bring your pet.

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On average, it's between 125 to

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$150 one way.

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So if you want to travel with your pet under the seat in front of you, figure between $300 and $400 round trip.

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So we've done some training.

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We've got our dogs prepared to go to the bathroom on potty pads.

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We've got them prepared to go into doggy toilets and airports.

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We have their comfort bag ready to go.

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We have their paperwork and their microchips ready to go.

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We have our own stuff ready to go, and we have a meaningful trip planned.

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What is the one thing that most of your clients forget?

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that if you could tell everybody to remember, you would.

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This is going to be silly, but it's real.

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Never, ever put your pet in the carrier through the TSA scanner.

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You always have to take your pet out and walk it through.

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That makes sense.

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Yeah, I'm kind of blown away by that.

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I wouldn't have thought about putting the dog through the x-ray at TSA or even how that works.

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I guess I didn't think about the dogs going through clearance.

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Yes, they go through clearance just like everybody else, but when you have a tiny pet and you're hairy,

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Sometimes people forget you can't x-ray your dog like that.

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You have to take it out, have to walk it through, and often they'll do a pat down on your pet.

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So again, this is where manners matter.

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How interesting.

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We've talked a lot about air flight.

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What about other forms of travel, such as trains?

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Every train is different.

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Let's say you go to New York City and you get on the subway.

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So New York has rules like your dog needs to be in a carrier, but New Yorkers are very interesting people.

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They might grab an IKEA bag, cut holes for the leg.

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legs and then throw it over their shoulder with their dog in it.

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I mean, there are interesting things and ways to travel domestically with your pets in cities, on trains.

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Buses, not usually, but again, that would be something, if it's a service dog, that's different.

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And of course you can take your service pets on places where you can't take your pets' pets.

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Many times I take a cab or an Uber or a Lyft from the airport or the train station to my overnight destination.

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How do we navigate that portion?

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So let's say you want to get an Uber.

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You can note saying, I have a pet with me, it's in a carrier, or I have a pet, he's about 50 pounds, not in a carrier.

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Will this driver be okay with it?

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There are ways to reach them and verify it.

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I know people who have traveled where the driver's just shown up and they see the dog and they're like, absolutely not in my car.

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And that happens too.

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You just have to be prepared for it.

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So being proactive and letting the driver know if you're doing an Uber or Lyft or a private vehicle transfer, we always let them know ahead of time there's a pet, it's in a carrier, it's not in a carrier, and they make accommodations for that.

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There's a lot of pet friendly hotels.

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There's usually a pet fee involved.

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And sometimes there's limits.

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You can have no more than two dogs in a room with you.

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And these are all things we would find out ahead of time so that there's no surprises during your travels.

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Once I've reached my destination, and we talked about how to get from the airport or train station to a final destination domestically, I'm assuming that we would make those reservations ahead if we're going international.

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Absolutely.

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But everything is done ahead of time.

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There's no guesswork involved.

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I would tell you that dog definitely needs to be in a carrier or it can't on the train.

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Or if it's well-mannered, like on the high-speed trains in Europe, sometimes I see a lot of people with their pets in their laps, as long as they're well-mannered.

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Having a well-trained, well-mannered dog is extremely important if you want to travel with that animal.

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And so I highly recommend that if you haven't had some formal training, take an obedience class prior to getting on a plane or on a train anywhere to travel, because you want to make sure that that animal is going to listen to you, not just for your own sake, but their safety

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and the safety of others.

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Makes good sense.

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We've now hit the hotel or our overnight accommodations.

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That could be all sorts of places and all sorts of situations.

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We've made it there.

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We're settling in.

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What's important that we settle our pet in?

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What are the things that we need to know to settle our pet in for success?

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Depending on how you've arrived and how you're traveling, if you're in your own car and you're traveling across the country, you might have a dog bed that you brought with you.

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I would settle that into the room, put their water bowl in the

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so they're not dripping water on the carpet.

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It's just a lot of common sense in how to take care of your pet.

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First thing you do when you check in is ask them where is the area for your dog to relieve themselves.

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A lot of them have very designated spots and you want to make sure that you use it.

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Before you even go to your room, make sure your pet has used the facilities.

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So there are no accidents.

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And if you're worried about that, I always recommend bringing a pee pad or two just as a safe alternative for in the middle of the night if they wake up and they don't know where they are.

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Situation that time change throws me.

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Does time change affect the dogs?

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You know, I have to be honest.

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I don't know that answer.

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Okay.

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Well, there's going to have to be a trip where we have to figure that one out.

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Okay, we'll have to do that.

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We'll have to go through multiple time zones to see if going from the United States to Europe really throws the dogs off.

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Let's book it.

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Okay, let's tell we're going to Europe.

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Any of our listeners out there, we've got a trip.

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One of the things that worries me, if I were going to travel with a dog, if I have adventures during the day, do I take my dog with me or do I leave the dog

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in the hotel room or are there other accommodations we can use?

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If you're planning on leaving a dog in a hotel room, you need to leave it in a carrier of some kind or a crate.

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It's kind of required by some places.

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So what I try to do is when somebody wants to bring their pet with them is really set up their tours and excursions and activities that are going to be able to include that pet.

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If you love museums and you bring your pet, you're not going to be able to go to museums on that trip because museums, unless it's a service dog and you have the documentation, we're talking domestically because

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rules in Europe are slightly different, and we would have to research all of that per country.

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You want to make sure that your trip is pet friendly if you're bringing that pet with you, because you can't just leave it in a hotel room.

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Do you find that when your clients call and say we would like to book a travel and you start talking about the ins and outs and pros and cons, what rubric people use to decide, yes, we're taking our dog.

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No, we're not.

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Is it length of time?

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No, I think a lot of people, when they want to get away, they don't necessarily want to bring

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pet with them.

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I think the majority of people are going on vacation and it's like rejuvenating them.

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I think it's a much smaller number or percentage of people that actually want to bring their pet with them.

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It's harder to travel with a pet than it is to travel with a toddler.

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People are much more accepting of toddlers than they are sometimes with pets.

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I can see that.

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Joyce, you have given us so much to think about.

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I'm kind of blown away.

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We need to plan that trip to Europe to find out if the dogs have a time change issue, if they're going to get up in the

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of the night and go to the bathroom, or how they're going to handle that time change.

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So let me know when we're booking that trip.

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I will, and we can do it anytime.

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There we go.

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Do the dogs need passports?

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No, they just need all of the health documentation and requirements, depending on the country.

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Once you're in Europe, let's say you rent a car, you can pretty much travel wherever you want with your pet.

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It's the port of entry that you really have to have all the documentation with.

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And then the other thing to think about is, are you going to need documentation that's different to bring them back into the United States?

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That's the other side.

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So you need to make sure we have both leaving and re-entry documentation for your dog.

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You don't want to get to JFK airport and they're not going to let you in because your dog doesn't have the right entry paperwork.

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And that's all through the USDA pre-trip planning.

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That three to six month area, you want to make sure you have all your paperwork.

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There's a couple of great other resources too, Rashawn, for people who travel.

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BringFido is one of the websites where you can really do a lot of research about traveling with your dog, especially domestic.

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So Bring Fido, that gives us knowledge about what to go.

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Is that where the bathrooms are?

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What is Bring Fido?

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Bring.

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Fido has a lot of pet-friendly hotels, pet-friendly restaurants, pet-friendly activities.

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It's just bringfido.com.

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It started out as just this tiny little website that has grown over the last five years.

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They have hotels, Airbnbs, restaurants, events, services, activities.

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It's a really great resource.

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Lots of things to know when we're traveling.

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I have learned so much, and I like

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I have one last question.

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For my dogs, when they change their food, they can have digestive upset.

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If I'm traveling to Europe or I'm traveling somewhere outside of the United States, or I am somewhere where I might not know what the brands of dog food are, how do I manage that?

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I can't see myself taking a 50-pound bag of dog food on the airlines with me.

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How do I handle this?

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Dog food is interesting.

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Food in general is interesting because I think over in Europe, they have a much more stringent rules for what you can put in your dog

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dog food.

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I mean, I think they have a cleaner dog food, and I think you really can't go wrong doing a little bit of research before you go and looking up brands in different countries.

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You want to kind of keep the ingredients similar to what you're already feeding here in the States, and you can find that pretty easily.

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And then when you get over there, you can buy something.

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But always bring enough dog food with you in a Ziploc bag in your suitcase for the first couple of days until you get there.

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And then you can kind of co-mingle it until you're onto the other stuff.

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I've made so

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connections today, just thinking about how I would travel with my guys, Lady Jane and Pip.

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What an interesting, interesting job you have and a career path you're on.

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Do you find a difference when people travel using a advisor versus a resort, an all-inclusive and a resort, and they don't experience the environment they're in or they enjoy the resort differently?

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Or when they use an advisor, they experience the whole trip differently.

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It's different because as an advisor, I'm going to get to know my clients.

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Are you a foodie?

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Are you a historian?

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Do you love art?

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I fell in love with Venice.

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I was there for four days a couple years ago.

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And one of the things that we fell in love with was the artist Tintoretto.

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He was a Venice painter who was phenomenal.

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He made work at an unbelievably quick pace.

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He was a fabulous painter.

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And if you walk through all the small churches all over Venice, you'll find his paintings in there.

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And so I did like a Tintorento treasure hunt because his art is just so stunning.

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If you want to go to Venice,

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I can give you this treasure hunt guide.

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I can book everything for you.

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And in the meantime, as you're looking for all the tuneratos, you can do a gondola ride, eat over here.

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There's so much to see, and you can do it in a fun way that people don't realize that they're really absorbing all the culture, all the art, all the history.

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going to Ireland.

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I love Ireland.

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I've been to Ireland like five times.

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I'm going again this summer with a group of crazy women to do horse riding.

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Ireland is like you step off and it's so green.

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It's just that whole sense of ancient.

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You step on the land and you can just feel the spirit of everything coming up.

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My history, my Irish roots just seep into my bones and I feel like it's a place I belong.

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jumping into a fjord in Sweden in the middle of winter.

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I never jumped into water so incredibly dark in my entire life.

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And I did it with 10 other women and we were laughing because it was such a stunning, shocking moment.

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moment, but it was incredibly rejuvenating, and I never felt so alive after getting out of that water.

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Making cheese with monks in Switzerland, these are the things that you do, and none of it has to be expensive.

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You can just do it.

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The vibrance and the spirit and the passion that you talk about when you travel, I think it's contagious and infectious.

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I want it to be because I really feel like that's how we heal our world.

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We need to figure out how to embrace everybody.

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You're never going to live along with

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everybody in the world.

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But at least if you have an understanding of where they're from and how they're living and what their lives are like, I feel like we just become better at being human beings.

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And I think travel is a huge key to that understanding.

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I think so.

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The smaller the world gets, the more we understand the people in it.

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Correct.

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Absolutely.

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Joyce, thank you for joining us.

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Your passion's infectious, your knowledge is vast, and all of your information that you're so willing to share.

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If we want to get in touch with.

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You, where do we get in touch with you?

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Instagram account.

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I check it all the time.

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That's @travelwithjoyce.

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It's kind of a play on travel with Joyce.

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Or you can e-mail me at Joyce.Johnson@fora.travel.

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Thank you for joining us.

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Thanks for having me.

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I hope the connections we've raised today stay with you as you engage your community through critters, companions, commerce, and agriculture.

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Join me again next week.

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We'll make some more connections.

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This program is a production of Raising Connections Media Company.

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