Who really has Claim to Gaza? and America's Spookiest Urban Legends

Ever wondered why some people have sympathy for terrorists or why the 'land acknowledgement' works for Native Americans but not Jews in Israel? Brace yourselves as we unravel the complex history of Israel, debunking the common misconception that it's historically Muslim territory. We cross-examine the perspectives of two influential figures, Ben Shapiro and Hillary Clinton, while spotlighting the centuries-old Jewish claim to Israel. The labyrinthian journey goes beyond religious disputes, delving into the provocative ambivalence of present-day conflicts. 

Opening the door to the unsettling world of urban legends and hauntings, we bring you hair-raising tales, from the Dog Boy of Quittiman, Arkansas to the eerie Bunny Man of Virginia. Sharing spine-chilling personal experiences, we probe the enigmatic happenings at an abandoned asylum in New Jersey, the myths surrounding the Bunny Man Bridge and the haunting tales of Charlie No Face. Strap in for a rollercoaster ride full of mysterious legends, terrifying tales, and supernatural phenomena as we dig deeper into the realm of truth, terror and the unknown.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:02

What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.

Speaker 2: 0:28

You don't know what that is, Mr Trash.

Speaker 3: 0:31

I'd show you, but I'm too old, I'm too tired, I'm too fucking blind. If I were a man I was five years ago I'd take a flamethrower to this place.

Speaker 2: 0:46

Do you understand? The words that are coming out of my mouth.

Speaker 5: 0:53

You want answers. I think I'm entitled to it. You want answers, I want the truth.

Speaker 6: 0:57

You can't handle the truth. We know the world has turned into a crazy place and as long as the truth Jolly, it's free. This is Tim. This is Get Off my Law the mad rambles of a Gen Xer. Oh, I want to talk about what else? Israel? I just want to talk a little bit about what's going on there.

Speaker 6: 1:13

I want to talk about some misconceptions about colonization of Israel and the Palestinians and Palestine and everything else we talked about it before, about the history. A lot of people don't understand the history of Gaza. It's a short history because it's been about 30 years now since Israel turned over Gaza to the Palestinians. They just walked out. You have all these people like AOC and Omar and all the wacky members from the squad sitting there saying no, palestinians have been there forever. They have claimed to this land. Israel has no claim to this land whatsoever. If you go back and look at it biblically, you can't talk. And you go back and take a look at not only what the Bible says, but just what history says. It tells a different story.

Speaker 6: 2:05

Now I've got a couple of clips. I want to play that really kind of break down Israel, what it's about, how it's been there and how the Jews have had claimed to Israel going back to centuries, and one clip. I love it because one clip is by Ben Shapiro and a lot of people are going to be like well, it's Ben Shapiro, so you know that it's right wing propaganda. Well, we're going to play another clip by a liberal as well, and Hillary Clinton. I have a cold, so please bear with me. So let's go to the Ben Shapiro clip first, so we can hear this. Here we go A little bit of history about Israel.

Speaker 4: 2:49

Myth number one Israel is historically Muslim territory. This is a pure and absolute lie. Israel is historically Jewish territory. According to the Bible and certain interpretations of contemporaneous archaeology, Joshua entered the land of Israel in 1400 BC. The kingdom of David was found around 1000 BC. The first temple of Solomon was built in approximately 957 BC. The second temple was built in approximately 515 BC. The Hasmonean dynasty was founded in 166 BC. Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 BC and the Jews exiled from Israel in 136 CE. After the defeat of the Bar-Kahba revolt, the Romans, in an attempt to shame the Jews, renamed the area Palestine as an insult after the Jews' historic enemy, the Philistines. Even during the exile, there was continuous Jewish presence in the land. Islam, which is the religion of the Palestinian Arabs, was not even founded until the 7th century CE or AD. No independent Arab state has ever existed in the area known as Palestine.

Speaker 6: 3:56

They're taking over the land. Honestly, it's funny if you want to think about it. Israel is kind of like the Native Americans here. If anything, the land it was stolen from Israel and Israel gave it to the Palestinians. I think it was about 30 years ago. They pulled out of, they pulled out of, they pulled out of Gaza. Now you're like, well, that's Ben Shapiro, that that is. That that's a right-wing nut. Oh, okay, what does what? Let's find out what Bill Maher has to say. Can we find out what Bill Maher has to say?

Speaker 3: 4:27

colonizers Okay, this is again. This has become like on the in the media colon. We just call the Israelis caught. It's not a colonizing, no, okay. Colonizer is when one country that was had nothing to do with another country, like the British or the Dutch in South Africa, marched in with an army and took over a place that they had no connection to. Israel has quite a connection to Israel. Jews are the.

Speaker 5: 4:58

Yes, most people, so many people commenting about this seemed to have just started their understanding of it from five minutes ago. The Jews are the Native Americans of this piece of land.

Speaker 3: 5:06

Yes, yes you did a land acknowledgement, like we do in this country, but I'm standing on ground that was. Yeah, I'm standing on ground that 3,000 years ago, was King David's capital of Jerusalem.

Speaker 5: 5:17

Important. Who do they? Who does Hamas and many Palestinian sympathetic people who do they refer to as settlers and colonizers? It's not just the Israelis living in the disputed West Bank, it's Israelis living anywhere within the internationally recognized borders of the state of Israel, because to them, any Jew in that territory Is considered a colonizer, and this language is used to dehumanize people and to license their murder. So it's it's really important that we understand what this?

Speaker 3: 5:45

what this? If that land acknowledgement means, like we honor who originally had the land, why does this work for Indians but not you?

Speaker 6: 5:53

it's a great question. Why does it work for the Native Americans and not Jews in Israel? The acknowledgement of who had the land first? Oh, because of the fact that we have sympathy for terrorists. Some I'm not saying all people, but some people literally have sympathy for terrorists. You go on these campuses and you see these things that are going on. It's just disgusting that they are chanting and they and and this is on American soil looks like they're you're in Palestine or, excuse me, in Gaza. That's what it looks like. There was a, and I think this is just beyond disgusting.

Speaker 6: 6:31

Israel yesterday, the Defense Ministry released more body cam footage from the Hamas terrorists during during the attack, and they released this because of the fact that there are still people out there that believe, do not believe what happened happens in these towns, in these villages, and it is. It is truly horrifying to watch and Because I do this show, I Felt the need to watch these videos and they, like I said, this is from body cam footage from the terrorists and and they're also literally showing bodies and Thing and people in the morgue and they were showing people. And you get a little choked up about it Because if you watch the video, it's unedited, and you watch them murdering these people, terrorizing these people, beheading these people. You, you, at one point in time, in an ambulance, a a a Person is holding up a decapitated baby, and Then you saw these other babies that were burned to death, murdered, slaughtered in their beds, and you read the story that was that came out, about the terrorists that they captured, that they interrogate the Israel interrogated. This is all on film. They filmed it on, released at all, and he spoke about how the, the people in high command in Hamas, basically said you know, you do whatever you want to do, and he said they became animals and they did things that no human should ever do to another human.

Speaker 6: 8:13

And you see these people cheering and chanting this day. They're calling it the day of rage. They can against you oppressors. No one's oppressing you at all. Your foreign aid come. Your aid comes from foreign governments which Hamas steals your power, your electricity. Everything else comes from Israel. You are truly just terrorists and I've said it before and I'm not gonna shy away from it. You have to bomb these people off the face of the earth and If you don't believe this, just go watch. Try to watch. Some of these clips are only two minutes long and they're snippets. Try to watch it for the full two minutes and then come back and talk to me about terrorists. Someone else had someone else very, very liberal had something to say about Hamas years ago. Let's pull that clip up, because that's a good clip.

Speaker 7: 9:04

Left Gaza. They took out all the Israelis, they turned the keys over to the Palestinian people. And what happened? Hamas took over Gaza. So instead of having a thriving economy with the kind of opportunities that the children of the Palestinians deserve, we have a terrorist haven that is getting more and more rockets shipped in from Iran.

Speaker 6: 9:29

But we know when we remember when Hillary talked about that. Now it's about the poor people of Gaza. I'm sorry you allowed this to happen. You allowed Hamas to come in and take over for you and make your decisions and I love it because you have people like you. Have to love AOC, because her stupidity is always on full display. She's saying that right now AOC accuses Israel of committing war crimes along with Hamas. There is a difference between going out and committing terrorist acts like Hamas did on October 7th. There is a difference. Israel declared war. Israel declared war because they were attacked. There is no war crimes. They declared war.

Speaker 6: 10:24

Let's listen to this stupidity because her ignorance is, I mean, how the people of New York are stupid enough to keep voting her in. I don't get and I'm not going to sit there and have a 34-year-old who has no children really had no job. She said she was a bartender, but most people were like I don't remember being a bartender. She had 34,000 dollars before she came into office. She had $34,000 in a 401k that was the Hispanic fund and I love it because I still can't figure out because evidently her average salary was like $22,000. But somehow in five years she accumulated over $34,000 in her 401k, which she had to disclose. How the hell is that possible? And you still live in New York. But let's listen to this moron.

Speaker 8: 11:12

I think one of the things that's important to recognize about this situation is the asymmetry of what is going on.

Speaker 6: 11:19

And no, she had to look up that asymmetry. Let me look that up. Let me spell that it's symmetry A. Now it doesn't even want to play. That's how stupid she is. I got to dismiss that. Hold on, let's get the clip up. It still doesn't want to play. My computer's Everything's going wonky today. But let's go back to the asymmetry from the wonderful AOC who I can't. Even Now. I can't even find the clip I got. Oh, here we go, so mad I couldn't even find it.

Speaker 8: 11:51

I think one of the things that's important to recognize about this situation is the asymmetry of what is going on, as well as the collective punishment of what is happening to the Palestinian people. At this moment, hamas has absolutely engaged in horrific attacks and every single day there are more details that are released about what occurred on October 7th. That shocks the human consciousness and shocks our conscience, our collective conscience. However, we do know as well that war crimes do not constitute and are not an appropriate response for other war crimes.

Speaker 6: 12:34

First of all, you moron. It wasn't a war crime, it was a terrorist attack. So what you're telling me is what they did on 9-11 was a war crime. You are a freaking moron. You are a moron in the halls of Congress. I can't even play the remainder of this because her stupidity just makes me sad. And people listen to her and she has all these Twitter followers and people listen to her garbage, to her stupidity, and she puts something out and they're like ugh, look at that, that's true. No, it's not true. It's her own truth and her own distorted reality. Why don't you go back and have another crack at making sure we get some Cal Farts and we take care of them? Oh, I got to hear what Omar has to say. Hold on, someone sent me this clip. Hold on, let's see what Omar had to say the other day. This should be interesting, because she's another moron. Hold on, let's go back to the moron.

Speaker 2: 13:33

I want to say how insane and painful and scary it is no-transcript to work and serve in a space where we have a member in our caucus say all Muslims are responsible for this and not a single condemnation comes from our caucus leadership.

Speaker 6: 14:04

Oh, this is the one who can be an anti-Semitic, anti-semite and say whatever she wants. You can't have anyone saying it against the Muslims, because it's bad, even though they're basically not all of them, but basically what? The people that did this were terrorists. I'm not going to listen to her because she's just as stupid as well, and we're going to call this Stupid Wednesdays Day because I can't deal with the moron bunch anymore.

Speaker 6: 14:32

On a lighter note, I like horror movies. I like things such as that. There's books called Weird New Jersey and Weird Pennsylvania where they have all these weird facts and scary places that you go to. In New Jersey there was a place called the Skillman Mental Institute or Asylum that I actually went and investigated with some people years ago, which was a lot of fun, so I'm always into that stuff. So one of the things I really like is Urban Legends and with Halloween coming up, I was trying to figure out and I tried to do a little research on Urban Legends.

Speaker 6: 15:13

That turned out to be true, and some of them are kind of staggering, if you think about it, because the first one I thought of was you know, is that thing you always worry about when, especially late at night that you're going to go sit down on the toilet and someone's going to come out of the toilet bowl, someone's going to come out from underneath you. You know, it's kind of that nightmare on Elm Street where she takes the bath and the hand comes out between her legs. So you always worry about that and that's always been an Urban Legend that an alligator baby who has flushed down the toilet is going to come back up like the movie Alligator Crocodiles, and they're going to come back up through the sewer and you always think, ah, this couldn't happen, this isn't anything. Well, it turns out you talked to some plumbers and some other people that it's true that at times, especially in New York and some other cities, that rodents and other sea creatures have come up through the piping and into people's toilets because evidently they're attracted to sewage lines rats and other aquatic animals Because it's due, because of the undigested feces. So, yes, rats and other things have actually come up. There was one story that really got me that an aquatic rodent bit the butt of a female victim in St Petersburg, virginia, and then there was another one where this was a common issue back in Seattle that it was common enough that the public officials had to give advice on what to do or what to do if you encounter an animal coming up through your toilet lines. I thought that was just nuts. I thought that was crazy. The other another legend that I was thinking about and, like I said, some of these are regional legends, so it's kind of weird that you hear some of these stories One is no face, a Charlie no face.

Speaker 6: 17:21

Now you got to think about this. Imagine you're outside, low in the dark, you're in your neighborhood, then you hear footsteps behind you and then suddenly you look around and there's a man there that has a misshapen face or no face. So what's the first thing you're going to do? You're going to run and hide. Now the reason I'm bringing up this story is there was a story about Charlie no face in Pennsylvania, and this was an actual man. His name was Ray Robinson and he had no. He was no figment of anyone's imagination, this is true In 1910, and he was disfigured of the results of an electrical accident at the age of eight.

Speaker 6: 18:08

He accidentally touched live wires and really kind of just screwed him up and just tore his face. Now what he liked to do is he liked to take strolls in the dark and he would often walk a path around Route 351 in Beaver County, pennsylvania. Now, he was just taking walks, but he liked doing it at night because of his deformity. But the problem is, when people saw him in the dead of the night walking down the street by himself, they all of a sudden thought he was the boogeyman and he actually passed away in 1985. But again, it's another urban legend which turned out to be 100% true.

Speaker 6: 18:54

And then there's the. If you go and, like I said, this is more of the East Coast, because I am from the East Coast there's the legend of the bunny man. Now, if you lived in Virginia around the 19, I guess well, it was about the 1970s you heard the. You had to hear the story about the bunny man. Now, what the tale tells told was it's about an escaped mental patient and what happens is he took up gutting bunnies and hanging them from a bridge underpass, and it was later said that the man had graduated to gutting and hanging teens teenagers in a similar manner. Now, locals were cautioned at that point in time to never be caught near an underpass at night, because most people knew that the buddy man it was also called the buddy man bridge, especially on Halloween Eve. You should not do that. But the problem is, this actually came from a true story.

Speaker 6: 19:49

In the 1970s, a couple reported seeing a man dressed in a white bunny suit and he began yelling at them that they were on private property. And to punctuate his point and to really make his point, he threw a hatchet at them and it went through their windshield, shattering it. And then there was a second sighting of the buddy man two weeks after that when a security guard spotted a hatchet guy wielded an axe, chipping away at a porch rail. Now the cops tried to catch him but they never did. Now he'd never disemboweled anybody, he never hung any bunnies up, he never done any of that stuff.

Speaker 6: 20:27

But it's funny how that legend turned out to be 100% true and I get creeped out by that a little bit. So, and it's called the buddy man. I love Charlie. No Face too, oh my god. Also one story that turned out oops, we're gonna hold on. I gotta pause for a second here. Sorry, the mic froze up there.

Speaker 6: 20:59

One of the other legends that turned out to be true was the dog boy. Now this is a legend out of Arkansas, was it Arkansas? Yeah, it's where a werewolf like dog man was roaming a town. The town was called Quittiman and most people thought it was merely a tall tale. But in 1954, a kid named Gerald Benes was born. Now the rumors around the town was that he was cruel and sadistic, that he was just a bad kid and that he liked to capture strange stray animals and do experiments on them. Now his legend, or his cruelty, only grew as he got older and he was abusive to his parents.

Speaker 6: 21:48

Then, in 1981, his father was found dead in their home and you know, of course, who's the first person, who's the first person you're gonna look at. And because they said he was found, it was surrounded in mystery and the. But the newspaper said it was an illness, but many of the town's guys people believed it was murder. So Benes then kept his mother basically imprisoned in the house until the protective services came and placed her in protective custody. Now his mother testified against him in court and he went to prison where he died in the 1980s.

Speaker 6: 22:23

But people say that his spirit still haunts the house where he grew up and where his father died and in many versions of the legend his ghost walks on all fours in a shaggy dog, while others, he says, he appears as a towering man wearing a brown jacket and a bow tie. Now, this, evidently, is like a real, real spooky thing happening in this town in Arkansas that a lot of people don't even just don't even want to talk about it, and I think it's crazy. I think it's crazy that the you know you go back to where I, you know, when I lived in Jersey, you had the Jersey Devil. You know the Jersey Devil's born, the bastard son back in 1800s of some woman, and it was, it was, you know, it was just one of those legends that freaked you out, especially if you went through the pettin' burns. You would hear the wings ruffling in the air as it flew overhead. Now, they never, they never really came out and found anything about the Jersey Devil, but I always thought that was interesting as well. I have to say this, people, because you know it, because it's that time again, the truth shall always set you free. Glad everyone was able to hang out and hang in.

Speaker 6: 23:32

This is Tim, this is Get Off my Lawn the Mad Rammlings of the Gen X-Men and I'm out.