233. Your adversity is preparing you for something greater than you can imagine. w/ Chancellor Jackson

Chancellor Jackson shares his journey from college football player to bestselling author and publisher, including his unexpected detour through a Chinese prison that changed the trajectory of his life. His story demonstrates how maintaining resilience through adversity creates opportunities for growth and success.

• Born and raised in Georgia, played football through college at Stetson University
• Moved to China after college to teach English, where he was arrested for cannabis possession
• Spent 14 days in a Beijing prison before being deported back to the US
• Turned his prison experience into his first bestselling book "14 Days in Beijing"
• Has since written three additional books, including a romance saga and a self-help book
• Founded a publishing company that has helped other authors achieve bestseller status
• Found writing to be therapeutic and a way to process challenging experiences
• Believes in embracing adversity as preparation for future success
• Uses the quote "Hills are not mountains, and bad times don't last forever" as guidance

Find Chancellor Jackson on social media and Google to learn more about his books and publishing services.

Chapters

• 0:00 Chancellor Jackson's Introduction
• 6:29 From Football to China
• 14:10 14 Days in Beijing Prison
• 21:11 Deportation and Book Publishing
• 29:27 Writing Through Vulnerability
• 31:30 Bestseller Publishing Company
• 35:56 Legacy Advice

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Yeah, it's Mindset Cafe. We all about that mindset. Gotta stay focused. Now go settle for the last. It's all in your head how you think you manifest. So get ready to rise, cause we about to be the best. Gotta switch it up. Gotta break the old habits. Get your mind right, turn your dreams into habits. No negative vibes, only positive thoughts.

Speaker 1: 0:21

What is up, guys? Welcome to another episode of the Mindset Cafe podcast. It's your boy, devin, and today we got a special guest. We got Chancellor Jackson with us. He is a bestselling author, he is an educator, a football coach, and he is an inspiration to a lot of entrepreneurs. He was born and raised in Georgia, but Chancellor's journey has taken him in a dramatic turn and dramatic twist throughout, and he's traveled abroad and spent some time in China, where some interesting stories have happened. So we'll dive into those. I don't want to ruin that. We'll dive into a little bit of those things, but we'll dive into some of his books and the reasons he wrote them and some of the things that he coaches as well, because I think his journey alone speaks testaments to how mindset can help you, propel you and keep you moving forward on your journey to success. Without further ado. Chancellor, thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to hop on.

Speaker 2: 1:13

Hey man, Devin blessings and balance to you. Appreciate you having me on Big shout out to everybody that's tuning in right now. Hey man, Y'all are the real VPs, man, Appreciate you.

Speaker 1: 1:25

So I, man, y'all, the real vps man, appreciate you. So I mean, let's I always like to dive back a little bit and, you know, talk about your, your upbringing right. What led you to, what was the path that led you to where you are now?

Speaker 2: 1:34

um so grew up in atlanta, georgia. Um played football vast majority of my life, so that was a huge component to shaping the identity of me and I still identify as that to this day. At least it's a part of my identity. But play football all through high school got the opportunity to play in college four years down at Stetson University. Once I graduated from Stetson, I landed my first job teaching English to kids in China. So I moved to China fresh out of college. I was supposed to do a year, only ended up doing six months before things were left and I was arrested and served 14 days in a Beijing penitentiary. Once I was released from jail, I was immediately deported from the country, came back to America. I'm back to square one all over again, trying to figure this thing out, but just staying resilient, you know. And it led into me writing my first book 14 Days in Beijing. I fell into coaching, continued to work in education since I already had my foot in it. And here we are. What six years later? And we're still at it. Four books in that I've written myself. I've also published two additional books.

Speaker 2: 2:42

I started my own publishing company in 2021. I helped two other people publish their books. Both their books were number one. Um, and that we coach people through the writing publishing process? Um, yeah, continue to. Just dropped a book last month, self-help book, so it's a completely different life, uh, compared to my previous three. Um, yeah, just keeping our foot on the gas, running a couple different marathons, for sure.

Speaker 1: 3:08

No, that's awesome. We're going to dive into each of those areas. But I mean I do want to ask, like from college, what led you to even move to China? I mean that's, you know, it's kind of a not random, but it's not a usual journey path.

Speaker 2: 3:26

Right. When football came to an end, just like the last game of my career, I was just like it was. I wouldn't even say it was bittersweet, I was just full of gratitude because it's something that I set out to do from the very start, when I first started playing football, and I was like I actually finished it. Um, and now it's like this chapter has closed and the new one is beginning, and it's a hell of one, because I'm like I don't know what's next. You know, I'm saying I don't know who I am, uh, what I'd like to do. I don't know anything, I just gotta figure it out. Um, so from that it was just just. I just got to just put myself out there, try a bunch of different things and I figure out what it is that's going to be. You understand my next footballs to say so.

Speaker 2: 4:17

I started applying for jobs. I was mainly applying for corporate positions. I'm landing interviews. Some of these interviews I'm getting flown out for, put up in hotels, get cars rented out too. I'm talking about the whole nine. Um, but I kept getting told no, couldn't land a position. And I did this for about eight months. I graduated.

Speaker 2: 4:33

I'm back home in Georgia. I'm like bro, what is going on? Like I didn't do anything, quote, unquote the textbook way and still getting short in the stick. It's like we've been here before you and we was trying to find a college to go to, you know. So we wasn't highly recruited out of high school. You know, say, our school, our team, wasn't even the best team, nowhere near. So it's like I've been in that position before, just putting myself up there marketing myself trying to find a college to go to. So it's like, it's like we've been here before might just keep. Just keep putting throwing the real out there. You're gonna catch something eventually. Just keep throwing the real out there and you don't catch something. Just keep throwing the real out there.

Speaker 2: 5:06

And I was like man, let's re-approach this job searching thing Because we've been attacking corporate, clearly corporate iPhone family. We've had too many trials and errors so it's like let's look into other fields. It's like what?

Speaker 1: 5:20

are you good at doing?

Speaker 2: 5:21

Good at talking to people, working with people, so it was just think about dispositions that relate to that. And for me, switching up my job search, and that's when I came across teaching English to kids in China. So I was like, oh okay, that sounds lit. I definitely want to do something extravagant. I wanted to do something that you know what I'm saying ain't nobody going to. I know that's going to be doing once they graduate from college.

Speaker 2: 5:44

So I applied, interviewed and the folks hit me back. It's like, hey, we want to move forward with you as a candidate. So it's like, after eight months of applying for jobs and being told no first job in 10 years on the other side of the world, I ain't going to get it. But this is what we're going to do For sure, let's do it.

Speaker 1: 6:02

So I mean with you, like taking that job, like do you know how to speak chinese?

Speaker 2: 6:08

well, it was a three month long process, from the date I got hired to the day I actually uh, arrived in china. So within that three months I took it upon myself to start learning a little bit of mandarin. I didn't want to be out there and not know nothing. I learned just enough to get around. I didn't have no full in-depth conversation with anybody, like no, that's not happening. I was a mover for sure.

Speaker 1: 6:35

Did you use one of those apps or softwares like Duolingo or Rosetta Stone or some of that?

Speaker 2: 6:40

Mango, that's the name of it, mango.

Speaker 1: 6:43

Okay, nice, that's awesome. So you, you moved out to china, you know, you started this new job and you know, then there comes this 14 days in in prison, right, what? Or jail, what, what was that? You know, what was the, what was the reason and what? You know, what was that experience? Like you know, because being in jail, obviously that's definitely an experience. But being in jail in a foreign country, like that's I mean, that's even one of my fears like going to mexico, right, you know, like that's, you can't, the government can't save you yeah, thanks, um.

Speaker 2: 7:16

So it's april 4th 2019. It's a day off for me, um, getting ready to head to a team building my company's hosting. So I'm meeting colleagues that I know and colleagues that I don't know. You know what I'm saying. That work within the company as well. It's just a big little networking event, but you're going to do something fun. So I'm like I'm going to pregame before I go.

Speaker 2: 7:37

So I'm in the apartment by myself drinking a little Chinese wine, cooler, smoking a little cannabis. I get done, get dressed, make sure I got everything I need. Before I walk out the door and I hear a knock and guess what? I don't know if you've heard this song. I go up to the people, look through the people and there's the three officers from the Beijing police. I was like, oh yeah, I'm spooked at this point. So, scrum, put everything up, open the door. They walk in. They question me about drugs. I'm sitting here playing fool like I don't know what they talking about. Then they end up drug testing me right there on the spot. After that, once they pull the drug test out, I say, yeah, it's all over. So do the drug test. The results come back instantly. You know what I'm saying Now the club's on me.

Speaker 2: 8:17

All forms of communication to see still exists at this point Now. Now I don't bounce around from precinct to precinct. So I'm eventually taken to the jail where I'm housed, and I'm locked up 24 hours a day, seven days a week. 15 men to one cell, nine wooden beds, three soups a day and all I have is a plastic bowl and a plastic spoon. Nothing was explained to me as far as what my specific charges are, how long I'm going to be here, nobody knows. I'm in there and I'm in the cell with 14 other Chinese men, none of which I can talk to.

Speaker 2: 8:47

It ain't looking too good right about now, but one. I got to hold myself accountable Accountability. I knew the choices I was making and I knew the repercussions from them. So now that things have hit the fan and here we are I got to take this to the chin. However it's going to come, however they finish swinging, I got to be able to prepare the bottom week. But I remember telling myself I know I'm going to be good when it's all said and done, whatever, I'm about to go through.

Speaker 2: 9:17

I'm about to go through, but when I get to the end, I'm still going to be me. So, with that being said, take note of every minor detail, because this is going to be a great story to tell once you're out of this predicament and, most importantly, enjoy this high one last time, because we don't know what we're going to go through.

Speaker 1: 9:32

So that's crazy, I mean. So, I guess, side question so cannabis is, I guess, illegal even in your own home. Oh yeah, I guess illegal, but even even in your own home?

Speaker 2: 9:48

Oh, yeah, yeah, what's the web? Yeah, it's zero tolerance.

Speaker 1: 9:51

Oh, wow, okay, um, so I mean that's, that's crazy, though, cause getting locked up and you know, not knowing the language, I mean there's probably a thought in your head at that point You're like man, I probably should have spent a little more time on on that app. Right, you know point, you're like man, I probably should have spent a little more time on on that app, right, you know, you're like damn, I should have not watched that episode and, and you know, spent a little bit more time learning the language. But you know what I mean, what was going through your head. Like when you're in the cell not being able to communicate, because, one, obviously that's lonely, but two, when people are yelling at you and telling you to do stuff, or you know they're speaking mandarin and you can't understand them. Like, was that mental thought? Train of, just like, what are they saying? Are they going to do something? Like you know, go through going through your head does that make sense?

Speaker 2: 10:40

yeah, yeah, yeah, um. So like the first three days, I was the only foreigner, only English speaker in the cell. So of course everybody they brought me in throughout the night. They always bring in new inmates throughout the night, so once morning come they wake everybody up, roll call and all that stuff. Of course I'm the new face in the room. So everybody, all their attention is on me and of course throughout the day.

Speaker 2: 11:06

And their mom was trying to their best to communicate with me. But just because the language barrier, we just couldn't. But they was chilled up, like they was just like you tell they just excited and curious to have a person of color in the room. And you know what I'm saying. They just want to talk to you but it's like we can't. But it was.

Speaker 2: 11:22

I was able to communicate with um, even though we couldn't communicate verbally, like we just communicated through body gestures and miming things out. But me and him got real close. I ended up learning a lot about this man just from that form of communication, which was very powerful. So me and him got real close. But, aside from talking to him every now and again, it was just sitting there. It was just a lot of time to reflect. You know what I'm saying. We get, sometimes we get, we make time to reflect about our days or just about our journeys up until this point or whatever, but it's not an allotted amount of time, like I had a full 72 hours to sit there and solely reflect on everything you know what.

Speaker 2: 12:06

I'm saying the entire journey up into China and then everything I was doing in China, like just and what to do once I get up out of here you know what I'm saying just trying to brainstorm what can I you know what I'm saying how can I bounce back from this? So this is like a lot of time to reflect. So, um, people with oneself, solitude that's really what it was is a lot, something that we should all experience in some form or facet, because you're saying, you just don't you get comfortable being yourself within yourself. Um, so that's pretty much the first three days. And on day four I moved to a new cell and in a new cell, amongst other English speakers, two of them were.

Speaker 2: 12:48

One was from California, he was a Chinese American. The other one was Brazilian, from Brazil, and the third, dude, he was Russian, from Russia, but he didn't speak English. So I couldn't communicate with him through the other two, because they was fluent in Mandarin and English. So now not only can I talk to them, I can talk to everybody in the cell. Now I can really communicate. You learn about everybody here, what their backgrounds are, different walks of life. It's a great story. It's a great story.

Speaker 1: 13:18

No, that's crazy. The one key thing, too, that I think that was so important is you're in your first cell, right? The the guy that you made the connection with like showing you the power of communication, not just verbally, right? I think that's what a lot of people get hung up on is like thinking that they need to be able to speak a certain way or talk. It's like your body language says more than you think, right, like if I'm telling you something and I'm like, even in my business, like I teach my team, like you, you should be listening with your eyes, right? You're, you're watching them as you're speaking and if they turn, if they kind of cringe, if they, like you, got to realize those are all things of communication that they're not controlling as well, right, and so your ability to connect with someone just off of body language is like a huge testament of your body language, is important.

Speaker 2: 14:09

Thanks, yeah, yeah, it was powerful. It was powerful. You'll read about him in the story. It's like I refer to him as my Chinese brother, like he gave me that name. Hey, I'm your Chinese brother. I said all right for sure Look look, he didn't verbally say that. He was able to communicate that to me. It's crazy. You learn a lot about him when you read the story no, that's awesome.

Speaker 1: 14:32

So you get out. And now what happens?

Speaker 2: 14:36

They take me straight to my apartment to pack up the rest of my things and then from my apartment straight to the airport where I go to stay and I hop on a flight back to America. So I was deported from the country immediately. I was placed on a five-year ban, but that's pretty much the only punishment I had. If I didn't write this book, nobody would have known this had happened to me. It doesn't follow me anywhere, like I'd have made it popular. So you know what I'm saying. It's a blessing at the same time.

Speaker 1: 15:07

No, definitely, I mean it's definitely. It adds character and everything to your story. But two, it's authentic, right, and I feel that people, especially now, only want to show their highlight reel and they don't want to show that in the trenches Right, and sometimes in the trenches are the mishaps Right and of, you know, being locked up in Beijing for for two weeks, right Even though you learned a lot and you did a lot, like some people wouldn't want to portray themselves in a way. But realizing that when you do do like that was one of the reasons that I wanted you on the show, right, it's like those are the things that connect people and let us know that you are a real person. That stuff doesn't just always go right with you, cause it doesn't go always right with me, you know, and that's just. That's, that's life.

Speaker 2: 15:53

Exactly. Adversity introduces a man to himself or a woman to herself.

Speaker 1: 15:57

Oh, 100 to himself, or a woman to herself 100 oh 100. I love that. And so now that you're back in in the us and stuff, and that's you when you're in the in the cell, is that when you realize you're gonna write or like, did you get back and were you kind of job hunting? And then you're like you know what? I'm gonna publish a book, like what was your next steps?

Speaker 2: 16:15

great question. Um, I would hold time in the cell. I was just like I was thinking I'm like, okay, I'm definitely gonna lose my job, but I'm like I know I can still be able to do this English teacher thing to Chinese kids online, cause I heard about people doing it before. So I'm like I know I can do it online once I get back to America, so I just be able to do that until I can find something else. And I'm like I need to link up with my partner DeMarco. I just tried to do my spirit.

Speaker 2: 16:46

I'm like I got to link up with him for sure because I'm already knowing we're going to sit back, we're going to chop it up, we're going to powwow and the way his brain operates, he's going to figure out a way to monetize anything. You know, I'm saying so me and him was kicking it. That's that same summer, 2019 and he he was a traditionally published author before we graduated high school, um, in 2014. Just a little context of him. So he was like, hey, bro, you think about writing a book about the experience? I was like that's a good idea.

Speaker 2: 17:15

I don't even know where to start. You know what you're saying, what to do. But that's a good idea, because I knew I wanted to do something with the story. I just didn't know how I wanted to go about sharing it. So he took it even further. He took my phone, what's my notes? Left me a little outline and I just started filling it in. And by me filling in the outline, I caught a flow for a feel for how I wanted to tell the story. Took me about four months to write it and then spent the next six months getting ready for publishing. So I got locked up in China on April 4th 2019.

Speaker 1: 17:44

The very next year.

Speaker 2: 17:45

Calendar year April 4th 2020,. I dropped the first version of 14 Days of Beijing and was ranked I went number one new bestseller in three different genres. Upon debut and while I was still on pre-order.

Speaker 1: 18:03

So it was just snowball effect, that's awesome. So, and it was just no ball effect, that's awesome. So I mean that that's a huge testament. I mean, and congratulations for that, because it's not. It's not easy to write in a book, let alone writing it in the in, you know, a short time span like that, because that takes a lot of discipline to really hone down and get your thoughts going, especially with all the distractions in a daily, daily, you know, experience that one can have, I mean. So your, your first book was the 14 days right, and so you've written three other books since what, what did you dive in on those ones with?

Speaker 2: 18:32

So the next two are a saga, a two books story, but all three books, including 14 days, tell one long story, so they're a trilogy. So you got 14 days, beijing.

Speaker 2: 18:43

the next two are romance, so I jumped into a whole nother genre with the next two, so we dive in romance and it's the first book is you love, you learn and real love never dies. Um, but like I said, all three books tell one long story. You Love, you Learn is pretty much the prequel. That takes you back to my last two years of college, and then Real Love Never Dies expands on me going into my senior year, completing that, trying to find a job. You know what?

Speaker 2: 19:12

I'm saying Just telling that whole story Then Ended Up in China, talks about a lot of what I was doing in China prior to 14 Days, and then 14 Days comes into play and then Real Love Never Dies picks up after those 14 days. You know what I'm saying that summer. So it's all telling one long story. It's very, very juicy for sure. And what inspired that was just pretty much my partner, demarco. He was telling me from the beginning well, 14 Days is going crazy, but you got to write the romance. I was like I ain't trying to do that, bro, I'm not in the headspace, I'm trying to dig up all those emotions. I ain't trying to do it. But it wasn't until I was taking a course on just publishing, just to expand my horizon more within the field. And they was talking about the best selling genres. I'm like, okay, I already know what number one and multiple over 15 times. So now they said romance is the best selling genre. I'll take it as a challenge.

Speaker 2: 20:13

Soon, as I saw that, I said, oh bet it comes up. I said, hey, bro, send me an outline for the romance. They sent it to me. I wrote that thing about two and a half weeks like locked in, knocked that out, um, but I ain't dropped the book till like later, later, later on, um, but yeah, those are the next two. And then I just dropped a book last month, self-help book. So you see, we don't went from, we're going around the carousel, different genres, uh, so we in the self-help and it's titled the Power of Becoming Seven Pillars of Growth and Empowerment and it's pretty much a book full of quotes and insight depending on seven core themes love, discernment, success, happiness, adversity, healing and confidence.

Speaker 1: 20:54

Man, that's awesome. I mean, in my opinion, it's tough to write a single book, let alone four books. And the trilogy is even more interesting to me because it's like I bet with you as you wrote your first book. Then you're like man, I don't want to touch on those same things and write the same information, just a different way. So you're having to reflect and analyze the different situations, the emotions and everything, especially with it being more of a self-love romance kind of you know style book, you know. So what was your writing process? Like, you know, when you're having to reflect on those like personal and those traumatic events.

Speaker 2: 21:36

I'm just telling the true story. So it was like really is I'm, I make it simple, I create an outline. So I'm just telling the true story. So it's like, really is, I make it simple, I create an outline. So I'm like, all right, I'm telling a true story. Where do I want this yo?

Speaker 1: 22:10

yeah, I hear you now. I think you're frozen a little bit there. You go there you go okay.

Speaker 2: 22:16

Yeah, I don't know what happened, the thing just completely refreshed so, um, I mean, I'll edit that part a little bit.

Speaker 1: 22:26

So, right when you started to explain your process, you just kind of cut off right when you started to explain.

Speaker 2: 22:36

So yeah, I just create an outline. So, especially when you're telling a nonfiction story, a true story, um, where do you want the story to begin? That's the first bullet point. All right, then what happened? What's the exact thing that happened next to the best of your memory? All right, boom, write that down, all right. What happened next? Boom, just everything happened in chronological order. Just the bullet points of what happened then once. Once you have those bullet points, now you go and expand under each one and just elaborate on what happened in the story, and as you do that, more memories will start to unlock as you continue to go down these rabbit holes.

Speaker 2: 23:11

And it's very therapeutic because it's like you know, we've bottled up a lot of stuff, so it's like this is an opportunity for me to truly release, put this on something else and put it out into the universe really, and just get it out from my spirit. So it was very, very therapeutic at the same time All three books because it was very traumatic time for me. This is a very adverse time. I would say that very adverse very adverse.

Speaker 1: 23:45

Did you have any like like emotional, I guess emotional challenge, like you know trying to convey into words, or you know being that vulnerable, you know, when opening up in in the book? You know because as you're starting to reflect and really think about all those different things, like I'm sure emotional challenges started to surface. So like what was your process like for kind of overcoming those or for being able to be vulnerable? Because, like you said, guys, we don't really like to, you know, show emotion yeah, I mean it's just pushing through it.

Speaker 2: 24:10

You know I'm saying it's like those that work out. You know I'm saying you push your body through physical limitations all the time and you'll still give everything you got to try to get as many reps as possible. I take that same energy and apply it to you know, saying the, the book, or just telling the story, and then you want it to be good. You want it to be you put it all out there.

Speaker 2: 24:31

You know I'm saying what. I ain't got nothing to lose, I ain't got no communication whatsoever at this point. So it's like it's fair game. Um so, and I knew what the objective was at the end of the day, this we trying to top the charts on the room in the romance genre. That's, that's the end goal, that's the main objective. So it's like this this is romance, this is what the lady's like anyway. So man, put it all out there for sure.

Speaker 2: 24:57

I feel like it's a safe space honestly, it's like put it all out there for sure. I feel it's a safe space, honestly, and it's like hey, to read this story at the end of the day. So you know, I'm saying like it's just doing it, man, you still get paid.

Speaker 1: 25:06

You get paid for it and it's something I like, that sometimes like that, that flipping perspective of you know thinking like, well, what are people gonna think? And then it's like, well, they paid to listen, they paid. It's like what are they gonna say? Like all. And then it's like, well, they paid to listen, they paid. It's like what are they going to say? Like all this, this, you know, I can't believe you got vulnerable. Well, I can't believe you paid to listen to someone get vulnerable. It's like you flip the script, you know, it's like you just gotta think of it that way. But I think it's. It also shows a strength for, for those that are willing to reflect, because that is something that is not easy to do, to even not even put it out there, that's a whole nother level, but like just to self-reflect within self and and realize that you don't, you don't know everything. It's okay to feel you know inadequate in certain areas or whatever, but reflect on it and and really dig deep and become better.

Speaker 2: 26:01

And eventually it's like everything we go through is a testament to who we will eventually become. So it's like once you get to your final version, your full potential, you're going to share your experiences with. It might be peers, it might be family members, grandkids you know what I'm saying. You never know who you might verbally just share your stories with, so you're gonna do it regardless. You're gonna do it regardless. You're gonna tell somebody. You ain't gonna keep it all entirely, but you will tell somebody. So like, hey, man, you might as well.

Speaker 1: 26:31

100 and I think your ability to you know be vulnerable, right, but also be vulnerable with yourself and go through those you know. Resurfacing of all that stuff Also allows you to build better connections with people, build up better reports, because everyone goes through, like we talked about in the beginning, and you, being able to analyze yourself, you can put yourself in their shoes at any point and relate right. So, with that being said, what would your advice be to someone facing significant either personal or professional setbacks right now?

Speaker 2: 27:10

Hills are not mountains, and bad times don't last forever. Take everything with a grain of salt, relish and be grateful for the adversity. Grow in pains. All this thing is doing is molding you and making you better and preparing you for what's in store. So don't be discouraged. Don't let it discourage you. Don't let it diminish your spirit. Embrace it. Embrace it, take it head on, because once you make it to the end, you're gonna be laughing like a motherfucker. Once you when it's all said and done, we always do we be like man, I don't see how I'm gonna get through this and lo and behold, we always make it through.

Speaker 2: 27:59

It's like we just look back on. It's like it could be something that was a catalyst or it could be just just a phase that we went through it. Just, you know, I'm saying came and gone and we on to the next. You know what I'm saying. So everything boils down to perspective how you should look at it I know I love that.

Speaker 1: 28:13

Now what would your football coach answer?

Speaker 2: 28:20

be um. It's dark clouds on us, but that's perfect for us. That class of all the world is one of the true little thrives.

Speaker 1: 28:33

It's funny because a lot of us have this second side to us.

Speaker 1: 28:39

I love your ability to switch and give the deeper meaning and connect, but then it's like you can see that side of you that's there and that can be a little bit harder still deliver the same message in a different way. That's where being, and that can be a little bit harder. Still deliver the same message in a different way, right, and, and that's where being an entrepreneur, being a coach, you know anything like that like you have to have those masks, so to say, so that you can put on and change the, the tone, the personality, the, the connection, all that kind of stuff. So when I was saying, you know, give me the full answer like that's, that was, that was, that was, that was good, um, so I mean, with everything you got going on, right, you did launch a publishing company as well. You know what? What was the inspiration behind that? I mean, obviously you have your, your books, but now helping other people launch, you know and write, and everything like that, why, why go that route versus you know?

Speaker 2: 29:35

why go that route versus you know a different route. Um, self-publishing is the best route, I feel like, when it comes to publishing books like the traditional way. It's still active and it's, you know, saying it's a route that you can't take, but it's. That's outdated in my opinion. Um, it's a whole new way. This internet has changed the. This internet has changed the game. Internet has changed the game for everybody, so take advantage. So, with the success of 14 Days in Beijing, I had a lot of people reach out to me, ask me questions geared towards writing a book, publishing a book. You know what I'm saying. Constantly, people ask me if I could help them and assist them. You know what I'm saying. Or just give some pointers to them? You know what I'm saying? Or just give some pointers to them to. You know what I'm saying? Get them through the process, and I'm like, I'm willing to work with anybody.

Speaker 1: 30:17

First I'm doing it.

Speaker 2: 30:18

I'm working with everybody just off GP, off the strip, all the game I've acquired. I'm just you know what I'm saying giving it away and a lot of people wasn't able to take it but wasn't doing nothing with it. It was only two people that actually digested what I was delivering. It's all the process, all the way through. And not only were they able to publish their books, both of their books were number one, new best in their own respective genres. The first author, mckinney, his book the Fatherless Child. His book went number one in dramas.

Speaker 2: 30:55

LGBTQ plus dramas and another genre. He was a 37-year-old dude. This story is pretty much about his experience growing up in rural Mississippi back in the 90s and how he was molested before the age 10 and how that situation shaped him. But you know what I'm saying. Him but you know what I'm saying Progressed, and you know what I'm saying Shaped him into who he is today. Very, very powerful story. And then the other author, tanisha Sadler at the time she wrote her book, she was 15 years old by the time she published it 16,. She went number one and two different genres and she was number one for like she had a spot for like nine straight A's. So it was. You know what I'm saying. So I'm like shout out to high school.

Speaker 2: 31:38

You know what I'm saying. Like see you in high school. And all she did was just trust the process, and I made it very, very simple for her. So, and she was able to do it. So it was like let me know what you're talking about, you know what you're doing. So it was like we got to continue to keep our foot on the gas. We got something on our hands. Not only can we coach you through the writing and publishing process, we got bestsellers here. I can attest to it, my other two authors can attest to it as well. So it's like, yeah, we got to keep going.

Speaker 1: 32:08

I think that's and and to what you said too about giving giving away information, giving away all the tools and stuff and only two people really taking action on it. Like it, it kind of goes into like that whole idea of like you have to have a little bit of buy-in to take action, otherwise it, you know, they just take it. It's like okay, cool one day, but there was no cost to get the information, so it just doesn't feel like I need to do it. But if you pay for it, then it's like okay, well, man, I already paid for this. I need to make sure I get my money's worth, so to speak. And I think that's one of the big things too is that I'm the same way. I love to give the information as much as possible. But then it's like, at the same time, are you just, you know, speaking to a wall? It's like sometimes you got to charge so that you can make sure that the person gets the value out of it.

Speaker 2: 33:00

Correct? Most definitely. It's a hard pill to swallow. I can tell you that too, oh definitely so.

Speaker 1: 33:05

I'd like to ask one final question, right, and this I ask everyone. I know I didn't tell you it ahead of time, because I want the first thing that pops to mind, but on your legacy wall right the Chancellor legacy wall.

Speaker 2: 33:27

What is the one piece of advice that you would leave for up and coming generations that you've learned along your life's journey? It'd be a quote from Nipsey Hussle, and the quote is long-winded running through this life like it was mine, never settling but setting every goal high, 1,000 burpees to the path to my own self-destruction or success. But what is a mistake without the lesson? You see, the best teach of life is your own experience, and none of us know who we are until we fail, they say. Every person defined by their reactions in any given situation.

Speaker 1: 33:58

Well, who would you want?

Speaker 2: 33:59

to define you someone else or yourself. Whatever you choose to do on me, get your heart to it, stay strong that's dope, uh, mean that's.

Speaker 1: 34:10

that's powerful in itself. That is a huge, a huge legacy message right there for for someone to take and honestly, really, I would almost challenge you, if you're listening around, to rewind that and listen again, because it is more powerful if you really take it for every, every word that was in that.

Speaker 2: 34:35

You know where can people connect with you and learn more about what you got going on with the publishing, but also just to follow along with your journey. Oh, man, the bird, the best, the best search engine. We got google, google, chancellor k jackson, everything you need to pop up from social media accounts to website books, other podcast interviews. I've done the whole nine. Everything you need.

Speaker 1: 34:54

One stop shop I'll make sure you guys. You know I'll put some of his social media links and everything in the show notes, but make sure you guys follow along, right? If you're thinking about writing a book, I can tell you firsthand it is a, you know, a great experience to go through. You know chances, a testament to writing four books already. And you know, just because you don't think you have a story, don't think you don't have a message, I guarantee you do Right. I guarantee your.

Speaker 1: 35:19

Your message, your journey, your life has, can help someone else. If you're willing to get vulnerable, such as chances done already with the 14 days in Beijing, right? Um, make sure you guys share this episode with a friend, though, and, like always, make sure you guys leave that five-star review. It does help other people follow us, but make sure you guys share this with an episode with a friend and help them, bring them up on their journey, because if you bring someone up on their journey, it helps bring up you as well. So, with that being said, chancellor, thank you so much for taking the time to hop on the Mindset Cafe and drop some knowledge.

Speaker 2: 35:51

I appreciate you, fam. Hey, everybody, tune in to the whole episode. What'd I tell you? You were real.

Speaker 1: 36:06

We'll talk soon. I'm a prize. I can't be distracted. I stay on my grind. No time to be slackin'. I hustle harder. I go against the current Cause. I know my mind is rich to be collected.