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Who Belongs at the Table? Creating Space in Dental Hygiene
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In this episode of Dentalish, we dive into an engaging conversation with Afor Carter, a registered dental hygienist with over 12 years of experience. Our episode kicks off with a light-hearted moment as I admit to mispronouncing Afor's name for years, calling her "Afro Carter" instead of the correct "Afor." This humorous mix-up sets the tone for a friendly and insightful discussion.
Afor shares her journey into dental hygiene, revealing that her motivation stemmed from wanting a fulfilling career that allowed her to spend quality time with her son. She discusses her transition from clinical practice to part-time hygiene while also venturing into clinical research, where she faces challenges in recruiting dentists for clinical trials. Afor explains the importance of these trials and how they can benefit both patients and dental professionals.
We delve into Afor's recent accomplishment of publishing a dental hygiene guide aimed at newly graduated hygienists. After years of starting and stopping, she was inspired to complete the guide, partly due to my own journey and achievements. Afor's dedication to providing resources for aspiring and current dental professionals shines through as she recounts presenting her guide to her alma mater's graduating class.
As we explore Afor's personal life, she opens up about her two children and her passion for solo travel, which she uses as a means to reset and refocus on her goals. Our conversation takes a deeper turn as we discuss the importance of mentorship in the dental field, with Afor expressing her desire for a mentor while also taking on the role of a mentor for others.
Throughout the episode, we touch on the significance of community and support within the dental profession, particularly for minorities. Afor shares her experience with Brown Girl RDH, a community that has provided her with a sense of belonging and encouragement during challenging times. We reflect on the importance of staying true to one's mission, especially in light of the changing landscape of diversity initiatives in the industry.
As we wrap up, Afor shares her mantra, "Every day the sun will shine," emphasizing the importance of resilience and hope. We also discuss her upcoming participation in our November conference, where she will be showcasing her work and connecting with fellow dental professionals.
This episode is a celebration of perseverance, community, and the power of sharing knowledge. Afor's journey is a testament to the impact of mentorship and the importance of uplifting one another in our professional lives. Tune in to hear her inspiring story and learn more about the resources available for dental hygienists.
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All right , you guys . Welcome back to Dentalish . It is season four , episode three . I am here with a four Carter . We've been following each other on social media for at least seven years and I've been calling her
Meeting A Four Carter
Speaker 1Afro Carter this whole time . It is a four Carter . I've been playing . I don't know where the Afro came from , but I'm feeling real Caucasian-ish right now . I do apologize , apologies , no problem . Oh my gosh , the afro came from , but I'm feeling real carcassian-ish right now . I do apologize , apologies , no problem . Oh my gosh , I'm getting hurt . I don't put an afro . You wouldn't think it's something black . It's a four man . You know I was dyslexic , but okay . So a four has um , a dental hygiene clinic guide , a guide for the newly graduated dental hygienist , and we're going to talk about that . It is on Amazon . We're going to talk about Bramble RDH . She's been following for a while . We are soulmates . We're both fire signs . I'm a sanitarist , I do sanitarist stuff , okay , but A4 , welcome to Dentalist . Thank you for having me . You're welcome and tell people a little bit about yourself .
Speaker 2Okay , first of all , I am a registered dental hygienist . I've been doing it for 12 years now . I'm excited to be a guest on Dental-ish podcast . I was very excited when I received the invitation .
Speaker 1Yes , because you know what . I've been watching you and anytime I see somebody that's doing something or who has a product , I feel like this platform is the opportunity to like showcase them , because you never know who you can help . We have aspiring students , we have students , we have professionals , we have dentists , we have regular people that listen to this . You just never know . So I'm always like how can how provide more resources ?
Speaker 2Thank you so much , and you're great at that , anyways .
Speaker 1It's weird because there's no such thing as gatekeepers . I feel like you just have to share the resource and you know what they say be of service . So that's how you get your blessing . That's so true . So what made you decide to become a dental hygienist ? You said you've been a hygienist for 12 years and are you expecting to get out of the field ? Like , where are you now ?
Speaker 2Okay , so what inspired me is having my son . I wanted something that I can have a great career but also have that time with him . I know I like health care , but nursing was just not it for me . So I was always told
Path to Dental Hygiene
Speaker 2you have a beautiful smile , so hygiene was like one of those things that I just fell in love with . But right now I'm actually doing hygiene part time .
Speaker 2I do clinical research and I was presented this opportunity from my aunt . That's been in research for like 35 years and what excited me the most is to get on the other side of dentistry to do clinical studies involving dental research . But I have had some kind of struggles recruiting dentists to be principal investigators to help with the dental studies . I think a lot of people I'm not going to say I will say they're just not knowledgeable about the other side of when it comes to dentistry . I know he was presented with a clinical trial for a study involving dental implants and I could not recruit any dentists in South Georgia to be a part of the clinical trial . So we kind of opted out of doing that .
Speaker 1What do the clinical trials entail Like ? What do they have to do ?
Speaker 2Just refer patients , when they see patients that could benefit from the different studies , to benefit from the different studies . I know like implants , it was like for a different material for the implant . So just when they see a candidate in their office that can benefit from it , refer them to us and we send them through the clinical trial and provide the things to them .
Speaker 1Is that based on funding or just ?
Speaker 2Actually , everything is through us . I work with Alliance Research and Technology , which is a family-owned business , so we provide everything like the sponsor provided to us and we provide it to the dentist
Clinical Research Side Hustle
Speaker 2. Okay , okay , so it's free . I mean , it's a good side hustle for dentists actually .
Speaker 1Yeah , then how do they get paid ?
Speaker 2They get paid per patient and just depending on the advance , how advanced the study is , how much they get paid .
Speaker 1Okay , wow , I did not know that . So you know all about research and data and you might be able to help me with some stuff that I'm working on . I would love to , oh , my goodness , so hygiene is your part time .
Speaker 2Yes .
Speaker 1Part time to come up with this dental hygiene guide .
Speaker 2Well , actually I was working on it for like four years with start , stop , start , stop . And this year I was like you know what , actually I'm going to be honest , watching you accomplish everything you accomplish . I was like you know what , actually I'm gonna be honest , watching you accomplish everything you accomplish , I'm like I need to sit down and focus on me .
Speaker 2So I was like let me finish , my god oh my goodness and um , I just took some time an hour a day to work on it , to complete it , because I wanted it done before my birthday , which is March , and I wanted it done before my birthday , which is March , and I wanted it done before the new hygienist graduated in May .
Speaker 1And how has that success been it ?
Speaker 2has been really good . I actually was able to go back to my alumni and present a guide to every senior that was there , through the help of friends and family that purchased the guide , so it was exciting . Okay , okay , now do you feel like complete ?
Speaker 1or do you feel like you can do more ? So it was exciting , Okay . Okay , Now do you feel like complete or do you feel like you can do more ?
Speaker 2I feel like I can do more . There's more I want to do . You have just your one son I have two kids I have my son and my daughter . My son is 15 and my daughter is eight .
Speaker 1I know you said you're probably proud of finishing the dental hygiene guide , but do you have like a milestone moment in your life to where you're like ? Okay , this is it . Are you still looking for that ?
Speaker 2still kind of looking for it okay , okay , I think it's more to accomplish yeah , that's what you said .
Speaker 1All right , what are you enjoying doing outside of the profession ? You know , like , what are your hobbies outside clinical research , outside of dental hygiene ?
Speaker 2I like to travel solo travel actually Just because I get to do what I want to do on my time and just take the time for myself to reset and refocus on my goals and what I want to accomplish in life . So traveling is definitely my big one .
Speaker 1Oh , yes , yes , yes . I really wanted to do Brown Girl like Sun Destination something . I don't know if you were on the conference cruise . I know you've been to a couple of conferences , but we need to do another cruise . That's not CE , that's just like a getaway . I feel like that would be super , super fun . I think so too , just to relax and have fun , and yeah , and let your hair down , let your braids down , all of that yes yes , let the , let the flow blow in the wind and everything .
Speaker 2Let's figure out when our first connection actually it was like when you first started I seen you on social media and I was like , you know , coming to the profession and being a minority in this profession and not having people to relate to you . And I seen your group
Creating the Hygiene Clinic Guide
Speaker 2and I was like you know what , let me join . And I was just kind of in the background at first and you know , looking , and I was like , okay , this is where I need to be , because , I'm going to be honest , at one point I was like you know what ? I want to give up . This field is not for me .
Speaker 2But when I came in contact with you and Brown Girl RDH , it gave me a new hope . It gave me a sense of belonging , to walk in the room and own it . So definitely it was on Facebook . And when you announced that you were going to have your , so definitely it was on Facebook . And when you announced that you were going to have your first conference , I'm like I hit my friends up . I was like , oh , we have to go , like we're attending , yeah , and it was just the best thing ever .
Speaker 1Yes , yes , yes , I'm glad you got to experience that . But the funny thing with creating a conferences I was like an ambassador . My job was to recruit members of my community to go to that conference . And I was doing it and then they started all of a sudden having all these brown faces that were there .
Speaker 1And then I woke up one morning and I was like I can do this for my own , like why not ? Like I can do the same conference . So I was like , let me see if I can create a space just for us . And then we did a couple meetups and I'm like , okay , the meetups are turning out . And then we had like just a gala where we just had a gala where we came out in atlanta and that was like 20 . A lot of people came out like over 150 people .
Speaker 1I'm like , oh , my goodness , I can do a conference and I could actually provide ce and education and , you know , still have that professionalism . And I did that . I was going to do it . And it was funny because I called two of the people in the industry that have been at you know , speakers at the conferences . As soon as I got off the phone they were like well , nobody's going to sponsor you if you never did it before and I was like okay , I don't need you to think , I literally said it . I don't need you to think that , like , let that be my issue , like I can get it .
Speaker 2And I think that's what I like about you too , because you don't you're you and you don't give up and you keep going .
Speaker 1So that was the first conference and they were just like yeah , I don't think anybody's going to sponsor you , you have to have people . But I'm like I don't know who I am , like you can't tell me who I am or what I can do , because I see the vision , I have the vision . Like I would never let anybody take away my vision . So , anyways , her and another lady was supposed to be a speaker at the conference and I don't know what ended up happening , but I think she tried to invite somebody else that was part of another organization and just put them on it . It was like here's my speaker packet and I was like who is this other person ? I didn't say that they could speak and aren't they the president for this other association ? I was like no , I just don't do fake stuff . Like a lot of people I don't talk to , a lot of people got kicked off the island . It's because , like I don't do fake , I , my soul will not let me do it .
Speaker 2I think that's why we're soulmates , because I don't do fake either , like just keep it real , lynn .
Speaker 1And then I don't care about political correctness , like if you're wrong and you have bad intentions and you wish it will , or you're around somebody , all of y'all can get it , you can go . It's like I don't care about burning bridges , like where the matches at Like , let's go , because I know , I know who I am . So she ended up inviting somebody else and I was like , no , you can't do that . I was like if it was any other conference , would you just throw a speaker in there and just be like like , put some respect on my name , right , I thought about it . I was just like , yeah , you got to go too , because I know y'all going to be talking about me Behind the scenes .
Speaker 1Some people can be like , oh , you know , I'm cool with her and I'm cool with her over here . But it's like , yes , you can be like that , I don't care what they got going on , I'm not friends with either one of them , I just know them both Versus like , yeah , she's my friend and you're my friend . No , it doesn't work like that . You know what I'm saying , right , right , it won't really work like that . You can't be friends with both and then have an enemy over here . It has to be like I'm not friends with either one of y'all , I'm just here . You kind of know what it is Like .
Speaker 1I don't have no feelings toward you at all and I think that's how I just operate in general in the industry , like everybody's an associate . It's no hard feelings . I don't look at you like you're not going to come pay my kids , you're not going to pay them . I break down , like so you're not a friend . If I can call you and be like hey , can you come get me ? I broke down . Then that's a friend , right . But yes , I think people just get very emotional with you
Founding Brown Girl RDH
Speaker 1. Know , oh , you're my Facebook friend and I supported you and I did this for you and I did that . But that has nothing to do with like business and principle , Right ?
Speaker 2And I think that's what a lot of people get confused , especially principle . That's a big part of it .
Speaker 1It's like you can't just bring someone in on a conference and just add them as a speaker , like you would not do that at any big company or organization . So why are you trying to play with me ?
Speaker 2Right .
Speaker 1So everybody probably like , yeah , she's she to pop off , I will pop off . But yeah , for the most part I feel like the organization was let's start a conference , let's do it for us . And then the first conference had like 175 people and it was in Atlanta , georgia , and it was big and we had like three huge sponsors on that conference .
Speaker 2And listen , I was in that building , I was there .
Speaker 1What was that experience ? Like it was in Atlanta . What was that experience ?
Speaker 2It was amazing . It's just to see everyone there , the vibe , the energy , the networking . Like I'm still friends with some people on social media that I met at the conference and I support them in other you know other ways , so it's just it was amazing . That was the best feeling ever , because you go to conferences , because I've been to other conferences , and it's just like a dot here , a dot there , but to see all of us in there and so it was so powerful and inspiring .
Speaker 1Yeah , Now I remember it used to be so many people I come into contact with . I remember now your picture because that was right after COVID and we had the mass conference . They gave crowns to everybody .
Speaker 2Yes , that was the room and I think I met , so I met someone in there and me , her , our Facebook friends now so it was , yes , that was amazing .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , I remember . Now it's come back to me . I just found out I was pregnant . I was like , okay , let me make this announcement . Yes , you made it on the stage at the that night at the gala .
Speaker 1I'm just like so grateful that like I stayed true to like what I envisioned in even with Brown Girl RDH . When I first started it , I knew there was already a Black organization that had Black presence for dental hygienists . So I was like I'm not going to step on their toes and I'm not going to do what they're doing . So let me do one , but be inclusive for all minorities in the profession . So that was given to me to say like let's do it for all minorities in the profession . And people were like , why are you letting people in this organization ? That's not a woman , that's not black , that's not this , that's not that . I'm like if you support , you can be in here , right , you don't like it , start your own organization . I'm a sadist , I'm gonna say whatever . You don't need typing , because if I type it's gonna be worse . So , um , anyway , so it was .
Speaker 1It was that people were saying that and then you know , two years later , you like lives matter happened and everybody jumped on the diversity training . Then everybody jumped on the diversity and then we had all this exit the experts and I was like hold on what ? I'm saying this the whole time . So then the real people , the people that were like , yeah , let's start our deaf city initiative and I remember a huge dental company came to me and they were an instrument company and they were like we really like what you're doing , we want to include you in some article or blog .
Speaker 1I literally said you guys are just doing this to check a box . I said you care ? I said your company , your people and leadership does not reflect what you're saying . Like you're literally checking the box . And I said if you're not going to be here for a long time and support us and really believe in our mission , then I don't want to do it . They're like , oh , let's get on the call . Yeah , let's get on the call . Because like right , I'm not just just jumping for . Oh , this company reached out . Like you have to have care . Like this is not , this is my life . You know , I live this . So I really believe it , I'm passionate about it and I would not like just take a dollar just because .
Speaker 2Just because Exactly .
Speaker 1And , sure enough , that company never changed . Like you're that company , you know what I mean , Right , right , you're that company , you know what I mean . Like , right , right , you don't care . You were just literally checking the box and I wasn't about to be the poster child and that is why , um , I feel like I do so much and I get so much further because I'm not worried about self and I'm not worried about being a token . A lot of people , right , I made it and I got a seat at the table , but you can't speak , build your own table . And that was one of the things that I did with the conference , because I was like there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to have our own conference . Like , are we not smart enough ? Are we not organized ? Are we ?
Speaker 2not . No , that's not the case .
Speaker 1So I was like , no , we're doing this . And now that was three years ago , so we're five years in and we've been having conferences and providing CE since then . But it just all stemmed from that like why can't we do this ? And I was just literally recruiting everybody for that big conference . But you know , you have to wake up and just be like what am I doing for my people ? And it's always about the people and it's always been about the people and I always say that like it's about the organization . But I'm glad you got to go to the conference and I'm glad you kind of stuck around and you know , appreciate the vision and where we're going .
Speaker 1A point that I was going to make about the diversity training in Brown Girl and including being inclusive in the organization is Now fast forward . You know , all the DEI stuff went away . Laws have passed to where no more DEI , the Department of Education , cannot have any race-based programs . So then all the diversity experts , they're going away Now . They're no longer diverse . And guess what happened with Brown Girl REH ? Brown Girl , reh has always been inclusive . I don't know what y'all talking about Right're not changing we're not changing anything .
Speaker 1So literally I've seen companies change their entire name , right , because of the , the terms . Hey , right , the federal government says you have to end all race-based programs . They ain't got nothing to do with brown guard . Eh , we're not right , right , right . We are inclusive babies , like we always been inclusive we . We never . We're for all kinds of reasons . The profession , but if I would've listened to the birds chirping , the noise , the change you know , I've been distracted and on the train with them .
Speaker 1I would've been like oh man , we gotta change our name . How devastating would that be , man , we got to change our name . How devastating would that be , man . We have to , you know , figure out something else to call no . And even if they said we had to , I wouldn't do it . I can't jump because , again , what happens after the next four years , when everything changes back and you're just going to go back ? Right , you have to be true to it . You cannot just be flip-flopping , and that's what I don't like about just people in general , not even just the industry , but people in general . I thought you cared about diversity . I thought you cared about all of this stuff Like , oh really , you don't .
Speaker 2And that's what I'm seeing now in research Like everybody's screaming diversity , diversity . We need diverse patients , we need this and that , but with us being in South Georgia , where we're in that community , provide you them that patient base . You don't give us the opportunity . So I mean , are you really screaming diversity or are you just saying it because that's the biggest word right now in the industry and you're just hopping on a train to say it ?
Speaker 1Hopping on a train , just
Standing Firm on Inclusivity
Speaker 1like people was posting on Black Squares . I was so mad , Remember ? I'm on Facebook . Everybody's posting Black things . Yes , Like what's going on .
Speaker 2Just stand on a mission , stand on who you are and what you believe in , and don't let others change your beliefs .
Speaker 1It's very disappointing If I look over and I'm like I actually lived this . So I hear what you're saying . I have one webinar that I did and the lady that was in there she had like a diversity company when she was a white woman and on the call she was telling us like when she was in leadership and she worked in private practice DSO , she was like they used to skip over the people with the black names . You said that and I was like , oh my gosh , you need to talk about it . You know she's like , yeah , because it's been this industry so long and I've seen so much stuff . And I'm like , yeah , definitely say that , because it needs to come from someone like you , like we're not just making things up , these are our experiences , this is what we're Right , that's what we've been through , and didn't say nothing about it . I was like , oh , so of course I brought it up , but I mean .
Speaker 2But my thing is this when we're talking about diversity , shouldn't someone that's from a background that place like I ? Look at this one lady that I was talking to and she was like I'm headed diversity and she's Caucasian , she's like , but I don't know where to start .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2So she's Caucasian , she's like , but I don't know where to start .
Speaker 1Yeah , so she's reaching out to other people of you know , Black people and other you know diverse races and trying to get ideas because you don't have the experiences that can't relate that are saying that they are doing something in diversity . That's true too .
Speaker 1So there was a girl and she came to me and she's like , I'm doing a presentation and do you have any Latin members ? I'm like , of course I have Latin members , like we're all minorities . So I had a couple , like four or five girls that were like members of the meetings and whatever . So I sent them that and she's like , yeah , I have a presentation that I'm doing and I wanted to include them in it . I said , okay , that's fine . I said one , make sure you're a member with the organization . Two , make sure you include Brown-Vardy and whatever you're doing . You know , just give them that . You know , just give them . Next thing you know , she just started a whole latin dental hygiene group . This is just exclusive for latinas . And I was like like , okay , um , and that didn't go , for I don't even know what's happening with it today . But it's like , do stuff . Because they feel like , oh , I can do that .
Speaker 1Or you hear the comments like what if we had , you know , white girl r ? Like what if we had you know , white girl RDH ? What if we had Asian RDH ? Like what , what is this beside the point , I am a brown girl and I'm an RDH and this is the name of the company and you can interpret it how you want to interpret it , like I'm going to keep doing it , it doesn't matter . I learned you know you don't have to speak up , you don't have to defend yourself , you just keep doing what you're doing and the earth will provide what you need . But it's crazy because I've seen all the XYZ RDH groups or companies come around and then they're gone . But I thought you were like for the people . It's really a slap in the face to who does it , because when we started we were getting a lot of backlash like hate stuff online , and it started to come back .
Speaker 2I remember some of the stuff that you was going through when you first started Brown Girl RDH .
Speaker 1Yes , come around and say like , oh , I'm just going to create a Latina RDH . What Are you serious right now ? Like , yes , you can do that , but you're not doing it for the right reasons . You're doing it because you see this work over here , so let me do it too . You're not doing it because you care , because if you did , you would have been like , how do I join what you're doing to help uplift ?
Speaker 1You went and then segregated , right , right , right . You know , if I it's like the mr rdh thing , the males are just a one little portion , black people are just one little portion , white males are one little portion and latinas are one little portion , asians are one little portion . So how can you have a whole organization of just one of those ? You're not gonna , it's not gonna be a strong leadership . So you need to combine them , and that's what I knew to do , but you need to that you have all of that support .
Speaker 1And that's what brown variety did . We took all of those minorities and grouped them as we are the organization . Right , that's it . So people are like really being small minded . You just have to , in life in general , stay true to who you are , because now , looking at it , this is like seven years . Now seven years has passed and then they're taking away all the diversity stuff and we'll just keep being here and keep doing what we're doing , because we were never exclusive . And I've seen companies , large companies , change their whole campaign just like oh my , and it's because of money and it's because of politics , but anyway , oh yes right , but you see it , you're in , you're in south Georgia , um .
Speaker 1So you know . Anyways , mentorship matters . Do you have a mentor in this field at all ? I ?
Speaker 2I do not . It would be nice to have one , but I currently do not . But I have to say that I have been a mentor to several in the area , through doctors just recommending me to talk to certain hygienists , and also just when I know someone's going to that field or you know , maybe I just reach out to them and encourage them and talk to them .
Speaker 1Some words you live by a phrase , you live by Like what can people take with them ? That you're like this gets me through , and you know Well my phrase is every day the sun will shine .
Speaker 2But that's why I love Tomorrow
Mentorship and Words to Live By
Speaker 2by Glorilla Because you're going to have those days where you want to give up , where you're not excited , where you're feeling like you're defeated . But once you realize that , you know what . This is just a moment . This is just a day . Tomorrow is a different day . So the sun may shine tomorrow . Just because it's not shining today doesn't mean that it won't do it tomorrow tomorrow .
Speaker 1Just because it's not shining today doesn't mean that it won't do it to me , right ? You like that one , I like the one about the credit score .
Speaker 2I may be rich tomorrow , so it doesn't matter , right ?
Speaker 1It's actually a joke . If you really think about it . You pay off your house . Your credit score goes down Like are you serious right now ? It's a game . It's a game . So you live by that . Gloria plays face . I live by the other . I know what it is . Um , where can people ?
Speaker 2find you . They can find me on facebook , at a for carter , instagram , a the number four underscore carter and also on amazon , if you look up for car , because I am a published author now . Yay . But I do want to say that I did include Brown Girl RDH in my guide , because that was a part that helped me get through so many years of hygiene .
Speaker 1Oh , it made you stay in the profession , thank you .
Speaker 2It did . It did Because I'm telling you I wanted to give up so many times .
Speaker 1I have been been a bad supporter because I didn't even buy . I mean , I shared it but I haven't even bought it . But I don't know when the last time I even got my hair done . So you see how I'm looking . So I actually need to go ahead and get it in support and I'm usually pretty good about that , but I've just been so busy . But , in any event , let me go ahead and get it right now . Event Let me go ahead and get it right now .
Speaker 2Thank , you Also . Thank you for allowing me to use your platform to share and share with other hygienists no . I will be seeing you at the conference in November .
Speaker 1I'm excited about that conference . I was going to do grills at this conference , but we're actually doing permanent jewelry .
Speaker 2I've seen that .
Speaker 1Someone wants to get a little bracelet , a little anklet waistband , something like that Awesome .
Speaker 2I'm trying to recruit people to come . Like everybody that I talk to , that's a hygienist . I'm like let's go , let's plan .
Speaker 1Yes , you definitely need to . People need to be there because I don't know how much longer these conferences are going to last and this is the only space we have . So I don't think people realize the real importance of like , hey , you need to show up because I'm tired , right right , it's a lot of work , it's a lot of energy . Sometimes I don't even sleep when I do the conference . Thank you so much for being a guest here . Thank you for allowing me to be here . We really , really really do appreciate it . You have a good day .
Speaker 2You too .
