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A Contagious Smile Podcast
Stop surviving and start thriving. A Contagious Smile is a globally ranked podcast providing a safe haven for abuse survivors and special needs families navigating the journey of trauma recovery. Whether you are healing from domestic violence, narcissistic abuse, childhood trauma, or the daily challenges of disability advocacy, our mission is to turn your pain into power.
Each episode features raw, authentic conversations with survivors, mental health experts, and advocates who share actionable resources for PTSD healing, resilience building, and emotional wellness. We go beyond the struggle to highlight the triumphs of the special needs community, offering support for caregivers and individuals with disabilities who are rewriting their own narratives.
Hosted by Victoria Cuore, an award-winning trauma advocate and survivor, this podcast delivers the "blueprints" for recovery—not just Band-Aids. Join our community to find hope, humor, and the unstoppable spirit needed to rekindle your inner light.
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Shattering Family Cycles
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Family Humor and Awkward Moments
Speaker 1Howdy y'all. It's another episode of it's a Tidus Wild, unstoppable, with a lovely sexy host, victoria. I thought I was going to say Michael.
Speaker 2You are sexy Vixen.
Speaker 1I don't binary Don.
Speaker 2Yeah, hey, I'm still learning, because every time I think I've done it, they add another letter to the community, which we support Wholeheartedly. We support it. We have people in our family that are part of the community, but it's like now keep adding letters. So all right, if you're in the vehicle and your children are there, turn it down. But come back to this moment. Trust me and you will want to this is one of those moments that I had to share.
Speaker 2I have to share because it's hilarious. So everybody knows frequent a sub shop the other day and our daughter is in this. What do you want to call it like? This phase, if you will, of well, it's a phase where she's coming up with like pickup lines and really unusual jokes, if, if you will right, I guess so, and this is kind of just not for children, not suitable for children. Here's your warning I'll count to three, turn the radio down, but as adults, you definitely want to come back to hear it.
Speaker 2So okay, so okay so she looks over to me and she says, hey, do men get turned on by talking? Because they're. How do I want to say this?
Speaker 2like do men get turned on by talking? She is a grown adult and almost every aspect, but you know, and you know she's almost legal, 21 here, not too too far away, scary. But and she says do men get turned on when you talk to them? Oh, she's texting me, I apologize everybody. She said no, I said if men get turned on by filthy talk, does that mean that a male's penis is voice activated? So with that I literally had to remove myself from the table because it's damn right funny. Now if we heard it from Robin Williams or Eddie.
Speaker 2Murphy, we would have fallen out laughing, but because it came from our precious beautiful, innocent she's definitely not innocent child it made it a little different. So then she now has a nickname for men. She calls them Siri or Alexa, and she thinks it's hilarious.
Speaker 1It's not hilarious.
Speaker 2It kind of is, but it's not. And she just said innocent, my ass there, dad, aka Siri.
Speaker 1Which is not appropriate. We're having a podcast Go away.
Speaker 2She knows it's not appropriate for said child to say to said father. However, in general terms, it's. I heard that on Robin Williams or Andy Murphy. I've been on the floor cracking up because it's downright priceless. So that's hilarious. We've been quite busy, as a lot of y'all have heard in the past or may not have heard, and you're new welcome.
Speaker 2I will be undergoing, in just a matter of a couple of weeks, a life-altering surgery. Not by choice, you would think, after like 100 plus, that I would get an option of like one of my choosing, maybe a cosmetic one or something. I don't know, but they are going to be, in layman's terms, making my ear like an art piece on a wall. It's there to see, but does nothing. So they're scooping out the ear canal and the eardrum and blah, blah, blah blah and I will not even be able to feel vibration.
Speaker 2I need a cochlear implant, but my insurance doesn't want to pay the $300,000 that it costs for a cochlear implant, so for now, this side will just be like a bizarre wall, anyway, so we are preparing everything the best that we can. My speech will continue to get affected. My speech is already affected, but my husband starts snoring right now. It's recorded. This is going to be so awesome, um, but so the longest time our office was set up where I sat against the left side and so when him or faith would come in, I couldn't hear it.
Speaker 2Then they would talk to me and I'm pretty close to 90 death in my left ear as well, so this has been a challenge. So, my loving husband, we decided to purge and flip the office. And it's so funny because he'll walk by and be like where's my piece? What is that? And he doesn't look on the right side now because he's just not used to it yet. But thank you for all that you've been doing to help me get acclimated for this transition, if you will.
Speaker 1And what my wife has felt eventually, y'all is the reason why she's having this stuff, and this was over 18 years ago you count that with 20 years okay, I can't count, I'm a little tired you were in that and it was longer than an hour. Hour, that's not funny because it has An hour and it was longer than an hour Hour. That's not funny because it has it's pronounced hour.
Speaker 2Hour Like O-U-R. No, that's hour. That sounds the exact same to me.
Speaker 1No, it doesn't.
Speaker 2To me it does?
Speaker 1I slept for one hour.
Speaker 2Continue on. Carry on.
Speaker 1My wife was brutally abused Abuse is brutal During her first marriage. It's called severe dance or eardrums, ear canal.
Speaker 2It ruptured both of my eardrums, and one of them has been completely rebuilt. I have a fantastic surgical team, but it keeps just not being able to function. And I wear hearing aids, but they don't work right now, and so both of my jaws have been replaced, and the list goes on and on. You can look at a picture of a body like a skeleton, and there's not one area that hasn't had surgical intervention. If you will off of them.
Speaker 1Speaking of intervention, what pisses me off is, you know one. You had a marriage back then.
The Reality of Domestic Abuse
Speaker 2You know all this would have been eliminated, but the fact that so many people, so many co-workers that you work around, saw this going on and knew that this was happening, and nobody said anything, nobody stood up, nobody, nobody intervened a lot of people feel if they intervene, then the wrath will come to them as well. I had a. I had an anatologist who was working on faith in the NICU. An anatologist is a NICU doctor in the NICU, an endotelogist is a NICU doctor and he threatened her and he slashed her tires. And so there are some people who are afraid to confront an abuser because they're afraid that the abuse will come on to them.
Speaker 1But what happened, you know, the first few days we moved into our home. Hello, we're in a cul-de-sac. There's like four or five other houses here. We heard abuse going on right next door.
Speaker 2It was the same day we moved in, actually.
Speaker 1We were still unhappy. I didn't know the address. I don't know what it looked like, but all we heard was a female screaming. It was blood-curdled screaming and without hesitation I went over there. I confronted the guy. You know Turned out he was a little bitty, you know Chihuahua guy from Jamaica, but that didn't matter Not to say, jamaicans are little Chihuahuas.
Speaker 2Just this individual person.
Speaker 1The fact was I said something, I heard something, I saw something. I did something about it. Okay, and I'm not a very big guy, I'm not a fighter, are you crazy? I probably didn't even have a gun on me that day. We both had Most things most of my we carried concealed to protect our family and our loved ones, absolutely.
Speaker 2What are you talking about? You're not a big guy.
Speaker 1But still I went over over and did something about it. Now we, you know hindsight, you know we didn't know what was going on until we got over there and I saw a big red imprint on the side of her face and then we got the law involved and, you know, they separated. So maybe what happened to my wife will never happen to that woman again, now that they're separated. You know, and that's not a taste y'all Men, women, colleagues, co-workers you say something. You say something you know.
Speaker 2But then let me throw this at you what do you do when your own family turns your back on you? Because, believe it or not, that statistically happens more times than not. Right, where they're like isolated, you're absolutely isolated it's not just isolation.
Speaker 2It's honestly also the why did you make him mad? Why did you stay, you know? Why didn't you just give him what he wanted? Why didn't you just make anything easier for them? And in the 20 plus years I've advocated and when I mean a contagious smell has been recognized globally for many times and have just recently gotten five awards just in the last 90 days.
Speaker 2Um, it's because what people don't understand and I, and I'll say this over and over again is that it doesn't matter dinner's on the table at seven, it doesn't matter if the sheets are military press, it doesn't matter if the clothes are done and hung up, wrinkle free. If everything is done to the letter, let's say and someone cut your attacker user off on the way home, or maybe his side piece decided not to see him, or maybe he got in trouble at work. Whatever the case may be, he's still going to come back to the house and he's going to take it out on you.
Speaker 2It doesn't matter, because when it's like misery loves company, and when you have already established that dominating presence and you literally make us into a shell where we just internalize within ourselves and like everything at first is like I don't need to do that, and then it becomes. Well, maybe if I did just do this, you know, maybe if I didn't, you know, have the food touch each other on the plate, if I held it different from the kitchen to the dining room table, or why didn't I check his beer to make sure he was almost out, Because I should have known to bring him another one before it was empty. And I mean, these are the things that cause physical altercation from one person to the other and people just don't understand, because they're looking at it from an outsider's point of view and they want to be so quick to judge, they want to just be so quick to place blame, but you don't ever hear them say why did you lay hands on her? Instead, it's, why did you upset it?
Speaker 2Why did you? You, you know what happened to you, know the underdog right, and I had so much proof and evidence. People actually would come to me and say why do you have this much proof. It honestly looks a little questionable, and it was well. First of all, my background, the second of all my, my training in school, in school. And third, because every time I bring it to somebody, an authoritative figure, I'm told why'd you make a mess?
Speaker 2You know, they did nothing and I wanted to obtain enough evidence so that if the son of a bitch killed me that nobody could get to my kid right.
Speaker 2I wanted him to never have her, and so this was imperative for me to be able to make sure. So I told people well, if somebody would do the right thing, guess what I wouldn't have all this evidence, and that's a big issue. You know so many people just want to turn a blind up. You know how quick it is, and we've learned this so much. And people say what is my biggest attribute and what is my biggest weakness? And I would say both is the same answer it's my heart, because if somebody comes to me and needs help, I will break myself into a million pieces to help somebody, and I do it over and over again and I never want anything in return, but thing in return.
Speaker 2But when you ask for anything, I mean and it's not even something, never voluntarily but you ask like hey, you know how, about a birthday call?
Speaker 2to your granddaughter or your niece or your, you know, whatever the case may be, you can't even get that, but then the minute something else happens, it's. I need this, I need this. Why can't you let the past go? Why can't you let it go? Why is because those are the people who made mistakes, and one of the number one things about a narcissist is narcissists cannot hold themselves accountable for anything.
Speaker 2They do not know the term accountability they don't, and for that reason, and that reason alone, they're going to always play the victim and really try to just berate you anyways.
Breaking the Cycle of Violence
Speaker 1Speaking of happy birthdays, things of that nature, did y'all know that Victoria here is on Cameo? What's a birthday? Listen, you know, folks have you know, and pod stars, whatever. Go on cameo and look up Victoria Curie and send her a request. Pretty awesome, she has some great quotes it.
Speaker 2Just it really hurts to know that. I really wish people who are so quick to want to not listen and just judge people like you know. You think, for instance, in a common house, you know, let's just say it's a male and female, you have a daughter and a son and the dad's you know, the two children are watching dad get mom right. This son is learning that that is the manners to which you not only treat your spouse but it's okay to treat your mom that way.
Speaker 2so it's okay for the son to mouth off to mom because dad's teaching the son the way to be a quote unquote man and I use the quote man because that's not a man, right Also teaching the daughter my next statement. And then you're teaching a daughter what's acceptable to have from a man.
Speaker 2right, it's acceptable for a man to belittle you and just ruin your self-esteem and your self-worth. And you know, if you were to Google or whatever the case may be, all of my sayings, what's my number one saying? I don't want our children spending their adulthood recovering from their childhood. I mean, that's like one of my biggest sayings. I say all the time because, you know, I desperately made sure that to this day, if we brought faith in here, she could tell you I've never said anything hurtful to her, right? If she's done something wrong, I would say to her you know, I love you with all of my heart and soul.
Speaker 2I don't like how this was handled, so let's talk about it. I don't scream at her. I've never yelled at her. She knows that because you know what those words carry with you forever. Bruises do heal, broken bones can be fixed for the most part, but those words stay with you forever, like learning at the age of nine when your egg donor says that they wish they miscarried you, stays with you even as an adult Like these are things that stay with you forever, right and it's heart-wrenching.
Speaker 2You forever right and it's it's heart-wrenching. I never want or wanted Faith to ever say I'd have one of those from my parents. And she never has, never has. You know, when she's done something that was wrong, I would say to her you know, I love you or we love you. You made a choice. You made a choice not to drink your water because she has kidney disease. So you made a choice not to drink your water. So you chose not to have your phone. You made that choice. I'm not taking the phone away from you. You're choosing to give it to me because you're saying to me that that phone matters more to you than the health of your kidneys. So, and we made a rule, and now she's done it perfectly right. There's a way to do things that's not going to berate our kids. Now, I don't agree with the carrying it like a kid glove. You know, and being so like. You know you can't do that, but you don't yell at me, you don't.
Speaker 1So let me ask you, as a doctor, where, who you? Oh, dr Victoria, since the so-called man father is training the fat her, the son and the daughter. These daughters are more prone to look for that type of man.
Speaker 2That's all they know. That's their know. You know how in the morning you get up and you know you've got to brush your teeth, you know you've got to put on your giver, you know you've got to put on your geographic. You know, you got to put on your shoes right.
Speaker 2That is the type of man that they know and they're comfortable with. So like, for instance, if you put me around, I don't know, let's say, let's say the guy picks up the trash we're not going to be able to have a conversation about professional things. I would be fascinated to hear but there's a lot of things.
Speaker 2If you put me in front of a, I know my husband's going to make me eat these words. If you put me around a cardiothoracic surgeon, I'm not going to be able to have a conversation with them along the same. What did you say?
Speaker 1I was talking to.
Speaker 2Hollywood. If you the same, what did you say? Um, I was talking to holly like if you put me around a cardiothoracic surgeon, I'm not going to be able to have a relatable conversation. I mean, I know the basics but I don't know enough to carry on a conversation, so we wouldn't have a lot in common the daughter is going to have in common what she feels she's accustomed to like.
Speaker 2She's accustomed to the berating and the belittling and the ruining of the self-esteem and the body dysphoria and so she's not going to go and try to find somebody who's going to treat her the way she deserves to be treated, and that's not okay. That's why you have to break the cycle. You absolutely have to break the cycle.
Speaker 1Did that answer my question, thank?
Speaker 2you, you're welcome else you want to talk about sleeping I'm tired.
Speaker 1I don't know, yeah, but I think it's the heat. Uh, this heat's horrible man. Last week it was great. It felt like almost winter.
Speaker 2No, it felt like fall, yeah, like that's not winter. And now it's back up in the 90s I won't go outside. It's horrible. We had to go out and get groceries and I'm like, I mean it's horrible outside and it's like thick air. It's not just. You know, we did go out saturday, though we did. We went back to the range and went shooting again. Family who shoots together.
Speaker 1That place that sells sandwiches? Yes, created by the firemen Firehouse. And then we went out to the shooting range because it's enjoyable as a family Right.
Speaker 2And I think it's very important that kids know not kids well, yes, kids, but like you know Well, thanks to young ladies, she's legal. She's almost 21. I mean it's close enough, but you know she needs to know how to handle stuff.
Speaker 2Right, but you know it's the whole thing. People say guns kill people, people kill people. You know it's the whole thing. People say guns kill people, people kill people. You know. You know that's like so many people. Honestly, babe, ask me why I always carry knives. Why do you carry knives? You've been stabbed a dozen times. The knife didn't stab the person holding it in their hand stabbed me.
Speaker 1And she has like three on a knife shelf.
Speaker 2Yes, you know, one of the things I trained, you know, growing up, is throwing stars and throwing knives, and I love them. It's not the nice fault. That's like saying okay I got bit by a dog so I'm never gonna have a dog again. Right, that's just stupid. I mean, if that's the case, I'd be like the you know old lady sitting and living by myself with 100 cats, which I'll never do.
Guns, Family Safety, and Protection
Speaker 2No, it's no cats. No, you've ruined that. I'm just not cat person. I don't like cats. I mean, if you love cats, hey, more power to you. I'm a dog person. No way, shape, form or fashion, is any animal going to replace my speckled rusty, my daughter and I came home one day and there was a feral kitten in our garage.
Speaker 2It was tiny it was really tiny. You saw on a stuffed animal selection of a storybook. Oh that's so cute. I don't like cats but I still think kittens are cute. This is a cute little kitten.
Speaker 1Let me emphasize that it was feral. Excuse me, and you know I'm no small guy. What You're small. I'm 6'1", 283 pounds, you know he's not 6'1". I'm 6'1, 283 pounds, you know he's not 6'1.
Speaker 1I'm 6'1 6'2, 6'3 anyway, I thought I you know I'm gonna I thought I could handle this baby, cute little feral kitten. Feral. No, was I wrong? That little bastard. And it ate me alive. Okay, I'm talking all 16 claws dug in deep, bit me 8 times on my finger. I could not shake the little shit off of my hand. I'm screaming get this, get this demon off of me. My daughter is bent over. How many pisses in her bricks is by now? She was laughing so freaking hard. I'm shaking the shit out of my right hand trying to get this kitten off of me. I can't get it off. I finally run out the garage door and let it, lets go, or I sling it off or something. I mean it tore me up y'all.
Speaker 2I was and she said to make sure we tell our audience that there were no puncture wounds oh, there was blood gutting, we see no puncture, wound, little kitten didn't even get into your skin. It was hilarious. So no more cats.
Speaker 1She just said you're a wimp. That's one dollar. The Lord Nard Nard Nard, is it? Yeah?
Speaker 2but, Nard.
Speaker 1She ratted me out so many times tonight.
Speaker 2Okay, but that was justifiable. Nah, so do you think she's a mama's boy, or a mama's girl or a daddy's boy?
Speaker 1She's mine.
Speaker 2Well, that's beside the point that is mama's girl all day long.
Speaker 1So my wife referenced one of her 41 books Nightmare who's there, which is a prequel to who Kicks First. You can find both those on Amazon. Y'all, go check out her memoir. Get to know my wife a little bit better. You have your glasses on.
Speaker 2So let me see if I can read this. Can you come read this out loud, because I don't want my glasses on. It says I just told y'all to stop the podcast, this mama's podcast.
Speaker 2She says she's not blessed. No, what she says is when she's good she's mine and when she's bad she's yours. That's what she says, and people who listen to the radio like so loud that it shakes the vehicles next to you. You're going to go deaf. And let me tell you from someone who has had hearings, to someone who doesn't it sucks.
Speaker 1Thank you to everyone who has joined. Hello, hello.
Speaker 2Here comes the best, here comes the best, thank you.
Speaker 1Everybody who's joined Mighty Networks and the Academy. We see you quite a bit of y'all taking classes here in the past two weeks. We'd like some feedback on those courses that y'all have taken, so send us a response.
Speaker 2So what's up? Girly girl, I'm a mama cow all the way. You're a mama's girl all the way, I'm not, I'm good.
Speaker 1That's every day. No, you're a stinker rat every day.
Speaker 2So what did you want to tell everybody to call him if they ever saw him out?
Speaker 1No Negative Goodbye. Close the door as well.
Speaker 2No, hopefully.
Speaker 1Can we go Turn this off? Thank you for listening to Unstoppable yes. I'm going to leave.
Speaker 2Stop that. Uh, stop the vote. Yes, I want to leave, stop. Hey, today's scott hamilton's birthday. Well, scott, happy birthday. It was our show here a few months ago. A stand-up nice guy like he was somebody I watched with my grandparents, loved him.
Speaker 2What a personality, just such a fun guy. He was a nice, nice, nice, nice as can be, just seriously as nice as can be. All right, say bye, faye, adios, adios. But you know what? They wouldn't trade each other for nothing, and it's so. She does not because all she does is all she does. When she does something, she'll like lift her sleeve up a little bit and show the tattoo that she got dedicated to him and then he's like never mind, no, do I really sound like that?
Speaker 1yes, the tattoo that she got dedicated to him, and then he's like never mind. Well, I really sound like that. Yes, so that's a grumpy old bear.
Speaker 2You're a grumpy old bear. You're a totally grumpy bear, absolutely grumpy, grumpy bear. Yes, so tell me what they're doing in downtown Atlanta now. What is all this? You were telling me earlier. We didn't get to finish this conversation.
The Academy and Moving Forward
Speaker 1Oh, I normally go on my phone and sit there and TikTok, Because you know I'm creating a masterpiece, y'all. It takes time, Okay At least until my legs fall asleep and I saw where the cops are going in big squads alongside a garbage truck and removing all the homeless items.
Speaker 2Is this AI generated?
Speaker 1or is this real? This is real. I only saw one video.
Speaker 2Well, trump is doing it through DC, where no homeless people can be on the streets at all.
Speaker 1So it's going to go around the major cities for a while now.
Speaker 2So what are they doing with the?
Speaker 1individuals. They're getting relocated, arrested, they get offered assistance to do whatever. I don't know where they're going to go, but I know, as a taxpayer, I'll probably float in their bill.
Speaker 2What do you think should happen to?
Speaker 1them If they get incarcerated. I'll definitely float in their bill.
Speaker 2Why is it that people who are incarcerated get treated better than are elderly and assisted living?
Speaker 1I wonder how many times they fell off a credit card right and got better credit than we do.
Speaker 2Well, I mean, just think about it In jail. They get free health care, they get education three squares a day, room and board, even though but elderly don't get that if they need something and they don't have proper insurance, I mean, you know they they the rate of like sexual assault in assisted living. Those is insane. It's ridiculous, and the fact that you know they get fed sores and everything else because they're not even turned as they're supposed to be and it's ridiculous what they and how they're treated.
Speaker 2I mean it really is and how they're treated. I mean it really is.
Speaker 1Yeah, I saw that firsthand when my grandmother was in the nursing home and my great grandmother that was even I was. I was young young type back then, you know, nine, ten years old, you should visit her. And uh, yeah, we saw it maybe nobody could do anything I don't, I don't think. You know they wanted to. You know what, and I hate to be morbid, but you know a lot of them was why bother?
Speaker 2they're only going to be here for a couple months well, I'm sure this is either going to get us more listeners or make quite a few leave us. But here.
Speaker 1Here's my thing.
Speaker 2Now it seems as if the sentencing is even getting easier and less strict when it comes to, like, hard crimes. You know people who have committed murder. They flee down and set a murder one or murder two, it's you know whatever and then they spend a few years and they bitch, moan and complain and they're out, right. What about the person who's done? They don't come out and raise from the dead, right? So why is it now that the sentencing is so? Just? How come you can just be like, you know, blink an eye, you're basically done? That doesn't make any sense to me. And then you know.
Speaker 2The thing is, when you have gone through something that is a violent crime yourself, you might change your opinion. But I don't believe that it's fair. Now, before everybody gets judgmental again, hear me out. I don't think it's fair. Let's say, just for this purpose, only some piece of garbage hands down, no hung jury jewelry, no questionable reasonable doubt, thousand percent proven guilty, not a doubt. Right kills an innocent child. Okay, and I mean, however, it's done, it's done. And then the person says I don't want to go to death row, I shouldn't have to be put to death. But what about that little individual child?
Speaker 2right what about that child. Did that child make that choice? That child's never going to graduate? That?
Speaker 1child's never going to have their own family. They're never going to get married.
Speaker 2There's always things this child is never going to get the opportunity to do. I think that the option should be there to say I'm going to take you off the death row because that's inhumane. What about with an, the child right? Then, if you do go to death row and you are pushed to death and you're laying there and you get IVs and you're put to death in lethal injection, they want to say that's inhumane. Let's go back and look at what happened to that child. Okay, seriously, think about it from this point of view. God forbid, it was your child. Are you saying that you think lethal injection is not okay?
Speaker 2because that's inhumane but what about this baby? What about this child? You know how is that okay? I mean, what are your thoughts on this? I mean, so many people are against lethal injection because they say it's inhumane to do so to someone. Babe, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1So I'm just you got to be curious as far as lethal injection, since they're one department spent $900,000 on a single dose of this, whatever 90 day shelf life medicine or I don't know what you call it. It's one of the three components Right $900,000 on a single dose with a 90-day self-life.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1That's crazy. That's crazy. That's the state Aiden for that. Okay, right To go into someone who's doing God. How much was given to the victim?
Speaker 2And I'm not talking about voluntary, I'm talking about the pain and suffering this child endured. And then the criminal has the audacity to say it's not humane for me to be killed by lethal injection.
Speaker 2I shouldn't be put to death right so we have to keep funding for you and paying your taxes. Are we paying for your housing and your education and your food and yada, yada, yada. But what about this child? What about the family? What about the parents? And then people say lethal injection is too inhumane. What are we supposed to do? Powder puff their face, just put a little powder on their nose, but then we're going to be contaminating their lungs. If that's inhumane, do you know my thoughts. Well, I would like to discuss this.
Speaker 1The punishment should be defined Well. I would like to discuss this. The punishment takes me. The punishment should take the time.
Speaker 2That, for example, everything I've been through. Let's just take me as an example. I'll be the escapee over here Everything I've been through, that son of a bitch hasn't had 1% of any of this happening Nothing. Scott Free right Openly has murdered people Right and not in self-defense. Not under the blanket of the military which I thank everyone for their service, Not under those clauses has murdered people and he's gotten away with it. I have physically altered in so many ways and I wasn't supposed to be here. Faith wasn't supposed to be here.
Speaker 2Faith wasn't supposed to be here. He's walking around Scott Brody, I mean, and I've never sought revenge and I never will, because it's not mine to give. Let me just put that out there, right, I've never gone to his place of employment or his residence or anything like that. Where he's doing this, all Not and never will. Or his residence or anything like that where he's going to sell not it, never will.
Speaker 2The point is, is that, why is it that? That's when they say that's inhumane, I shouldn't have to do that. Or they say caging. If they call it caging, when you cage somebody instead of incarcerating them, when you have someone who has hurt a young child or a woman or whatever, how can you not call it caging? I mean, is a normal I hate the term normal human being for a lack of term capable of doing this to a young child? Because you and I couldn't fathom hurting a kid, never, right. We would give our life to protect a child, but we would never hurt a child. So why do people get up in arms when you say they're being caged? And I've never said that. I've never said that. I say this person's incarcerated, but other people who?
Speaker 2protest it say we are caging our prisoners when that's inhumane, but what about the acts of what they've done? I mean, as a former officer, a former jailer, a deputy canine, how do you answer that? I mean, I'm going to get hate mail and that's fine.
Speaker 1Everybody has a right to their own opinion.
Speaker 2But if it happened to you or your child or a loved one you're going to, you know.
Speaker 2I'm not saying that anybody who is innocent deserves this, not at all. But if somebody has tried to kill you or kill your child and you know what, even sexual assault, you know they're still taking away some part of you that you will never get back ever. And they get to walk around and say, okay, well, I've served eight, 10, whatever months, years, whatever that chapter is behind me. I promise you this those chapters are not behind us at all.
Speaker 2We learn a whole new way to live life. We learn a whole new way how to function on a daily basis, and we don't get to close that chapter and put it on the shelf and say it's behind us now. That doesn't get to happen. So how is it that you see? As an officer that people can take that stance.
Speaker 1Let me ask you did you ever see the movement with Jim Carrey limiting tickets?
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1A series of unfortunate events, no, so he attempted to get the inheritance of the Baudelaire kids and he put them through several tragedies, so to speak, to off them right, but in the end the judge found him guilty and ordered him to go through the same thing that they went through. So in that instance, the punishment of 50 crime, right, okay, and to me that I think that's what's happening if you finally wait and and kill a child. Okay, buddy, guess what?
Speaker 2it's coming your way all right, that's just the way I am.
Speaker 2And I'll probably hate you. Now here's the thing no-transcript. Why is he so afraid? When he goes in jail, like you know, he goes into his own area. They don't put him in Gen Pop, they put him in solitary because he will be destroyed in Gen Pop. But he goes out and complains that pedophilia they don't have anything to help them when they get out. That there shouldn't be a sex registry, that there shouldn't be. You know, I think there should be a domestic violence registry. To be honest with you, I really do, because I mean, if there's a sex, why can't there be a domestic violence registry?
Speaker 1I was in the jail for four and a half years and every one of the inmates that I had to take care of that were pedophiles. They were isolated. They were often in a separate pod with just those pedophilia.
Speaker 2And all they're doing is learning each other's secrets.
Speaker 1That's right, and it was done more than the two guys in the room, obviously.
Speaker 2But they weren't going to do anything to each other because they're not turned on, so you can put them in a hole.
Speaker 1They weren't over at Jim Pop with the other fathers. So why, I don't know, with the other fathers? So why, you know, I don't know as officers we're not condoning that, but why protect them? They were protecting our kids. That's right, they're in jail. If they go in jail and they get, you know.
Speaker 2All you're doing by putting them in A blanket party, so to speak, like the soap and the sock thing, yeah, but if you're going in there and you're putting them with other pedophiles, they're learning their other secrets and their other tricks and trades and things of that nature, and then they get out and guess what.
Speaker 1Right, oh, I'm never going to try this. Maybe I won't be caught this time.
Speaker 2And they don't think it's fair that they should go on a sex registry. I mean, you know, where is it safe for our kids now? I mean, you know, even in the last week, it seems like every day we have been getting news reports of there was a mass shooting in Target. There was a mass shooting in target. There was a mass shooting in a walmart. There was a mass shooting, you know, at a restaurant. There was a mass shooting at the cdc.
Speaker 2Well, I can understand that a little more than a. You know the target, you know or walmart. I mean there should be no mass shootings when we grew up.
Speaker 1I don't remember recall any mass shootings right, I think Waco was the first one.
Speaker 2I was going to say I thought Waco was like the first, but everywhere and every day you're hearing about this crazy craziness of people just going out and shooting innocent people who have done nothing to them, and it doesn't seem like it's ever something. Well, Michael and Victoria.
Speaker 2y'all just stated that y'all went out shooting with the family Because we're going to defend ourselves and we're going to protect our family and we have the constitutional right to do so. Right, we have the right to bear arms, we have the right to defend, and I am not going to be. You know, I've had a gun put to my head. The only thing that didn't happen, thank God, was the trigger didn't get pulled. You know, and I'm telling you shit, sorry, you come out and you're one of my family, that's it. That's it. You know, not going to happen. This is not going to happen. You should, absolutely, without a questionable doubt, have every right to protect you and yours.
Speaker 1And just in case something ever happens and either one of us are incapacitated, then our daughter? What?
Speaker 2My shot, she is.
Speaker 1She knows how to handle the firearm and even the range master. One of the rangers came over to my wife and said what did he say?
Speaker 2She's a natural. How long has she been shooting? She's shot two separate occasions. She's doing head shots. She gets it from me. She was center mass, which was amazing. She did do a few head shots below the belt.
Speaker 1Easy, crazy, I belt ladies. You know what I'm talking about same.
Speaker 2I mean, you know, she nailed the head shot, she got center mask, I mean she even got a hand shot I was like make a smiley face and I don't think she understood what I was trying to say from behind the glass at one point. But I mean, for someone who has never shot before, she gets it naturally. That's all I'm saying, that's it. I'm so proud of her and she's getting a little cocky about it. She knows, she knows she can shoot, like right, and it's a great thing, like maybe we're gonna go shooting, but your room is messy watch how fast that gets close?
Speaker 1yeah, it's definitely you, and it's just not me loading the magazine for her loading the firearm. It's going through everything. It's her knowing how to load the magazine herself Okay.
Speaker 2Correct Stands everything.
Speaker 1Position of the index finger, the thumb, for the magazine release. She's learning all that safely and, you know, in a controlled environment. We even have instructors come by every once in a while. I'm all for that, as a family, as a group, to train your kids how to safely use a firearm. By all means, have at it Awesome.
Speaker 2She's strong physically. That kid is physically strong. I've seen her take grown men down the way around and she's proud of it and she should be. She really should be, because yeah, she's she is a tiny little, little tot like really I mean she, she's a petite little thing, but she can put you down on your knees so fast that your head will spin. And you know she's so cute about it because she'll be like. My mom taught me never to start, but to finish it.
Speaker 1That was your warning.
Speaker 2Right, right, that was your warning. You know, and it's I've taught her you don't ever start the fight. You don't ever start it. You are not anybody's punching bag, and that's the thing is that if you're in a home and you're watching that, as a child you're growing up watching that. You know.
Speaker 2And I hate to say this because anytime my bio parents, back in the day, for the short duration of time they were around, decided to get verbally out of line, if you will to her, I would immediately remove her from the environment and I got in the middle of it and defended her and made it where they couldn't, you know, belittle her in any way, because that's not what parents are supposed to do and grandparents don't make broken promises and never to leave and will always be by their side. And you know, and I can't say it's just my side, it's both of our sides, both sides of our family have, you know, made all these promises. But then you know, what really gets me is that nobody else sees it. It's only the black sheep that see it. It's only the scapegoat that sees it, because the narcissist turns it around and plays the victim like oh, it's all their fault.
Speaker 2They won't let me back in their life. Right, we are a drama trauma-free zone, drama, trauma-free environment. We do not welcome it. We don't allow it. We do not welcome it. We don't allow it, we don't have it, we don't want it. We both had enough in our lives. We're good. He's barely awake. I'm more awake now, now that we're almost done. So our episode not being released this morning at 5 am.
Speaker 2It's my fault. I apologize, because my husband will tell you that I am this person, that I'm not the wife that sits down and does nothing regardless even coming home from surgery, I go right back to work, but so as we were flipping the office around, he was like don't touch anything, and so he kind of tried to put me in a timeout which didn't go well in his favor. So when he came back up, I had already unhooked both of my.
Speaker 2I have two computers and I already unhooked them both and, trying to like, pop by them, one armed, to the other side of the room, and I unhooked all the equipment and I didn't do it with the best of intelligence because I didn't keep all the cords right where they were supposed to be because it's too much tanglement.
Speaker 2I couldn't afford to fall so I unhooked everything and my husband lost his heart, had to like reconnect and re-find, kind of like a hide and seek, if you will. So that's on me and I do apologize to everybody that the podcast didn't go out Today. It will be, out.
Speaker 1So, regardless of what, you may think. I do not know everything. My wife is up here doing it in the office for 16 hours a day. Darling, are you done receiving your silence?
Speaker 2It has slowed down. Okay, we're at the point that we really can't take much more any more injuries, any more submissions, and now, with my two surgery procedures coming up in the next two weeks, I am really trying to get this ready to go. So it will be out for our book in October so y'all be on the lookout for Dear Silence and I will let my husband get a little tidbit. He has seen the cover. He's the only one who has seen the cover for this book. What do you think of it?
Speaker 1it's awesome freaking awesome, freaking awesome, really, really awesome. So y'all, please go visit our website and hop on our academy. We'd like to have y'all enjoy everything that Whiteface put together. There's a lot of, you know, real, real life experience in there.
Speaker 2Because I don't want to be little people who have made other courses. But I've taken courses before. I've taken lots of courses, but some of the courses I take have been so dry, and so just how am I going to make through it? I know what my husband's about to say, and so getting through the material is so unbelievably hard. Know what my husband's about to say, and so, like, getting through the material is so unbelievably hard.
Speaker 2I know what he's about to say. So sometimes it's challenging to get through the course material and sometimes maybe that's why we dispense. But I will tell you, I believe it, one that kind of just takes the piss on some of them. But this needs to be the reason. The academy is the way it is. It's interactive. It's where you sit there and go oh my God, that's me. Oh my God, I know, they know exactly where I've been. This is exactly what I've been through, what I'm going through.
Speaker 2And we've heard that from so many people right and I understand and I want you to know. We are doing a new landing page and there are a few testimonies on there. But I have asked a lot of people who have said I want to put a testimony out there but I'm afraid to because my name would be on it. I told them not to Because, as much as I appreciate everybody wanting to offer a testimony on, like, the St Hayden Phoenix Center for Abuse, if you're not comfortable doing so, don't. I don't want you to show who you are to anyone because your confidentiality is my number one goal.
Speaker 2I'm having my language issue, my number one priority, sorry, my number one priority is your. Your confidence jelly. So if you're uncomfortable, don't put your name on there and say you know anything, as I do and my husband does. We totally appreciate the positive reviews. I don't want you to put yourself out there and make yourself worried, so don't do that.
Speaker 2As we do appreciate the reviews, so that's why there's not as many of the reviews out there, for that is because I tell people it's about your safety right and I think the courses do talk to themselves and do really explain themselves a contagious model unstoppable with victoria michaels this, while unstoppable with Victoria Michaels.
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