Surviving Abuse, Exposing Cover-Ups, Rebuilding A Life

A bruised face, a polite traffic stop, and a business card offering the abuser a job. That moment anchors a raw conversation about how charm becomes control, how violence hides in plain sight, and how institutions can look away precisely when protection is needed most.

We unpack the anatomy of grooming—promises of family, curated public images, and rules that turn daily life into performance. When the mask slips, de-escalation isn’t a script; it’s a gamble in a locked room. So we get practical: how survivors build evidence trails that outlast spin, why documentation matters more than debates, and where to find leverage when systems stall. The hard truth lands next—abuse rarely stays between adults. It travels to children and pets, often through intimidation, “discipline,” and custody games. We challenge the myth of “safe co‑parenting” with a violent partner and offer clear steps toward safety, boundaries, and trauma-informed support for kids.

There’s hope threaded through the grit. Victoria reflects on writing Who Kicked First beside a NICU bed, and on the new, more graphic book that Michael could only read in bursts because it pulled him into the room—scents, sounds, split-second planning. We talk about scars as proof of survival, the courage to edit old pain for present purpose, and small moments of joy that keep a family’s center of gravity intact—ridiculous restaurant dares, shared music, a child’s unexpected hug that dissolves the room. If you’re looking for a story that names abuse, exposes cover-ups, and still insists on a future where love is safe and home feels earned, this conversation belongs in your queue.

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Transcript

Banter, Jobs, And Power Dynamics

SPEAKER_08 0:01

Good evening and welcome to another episode of a Contagious Smile Unstoppable. I'm Victoria and my husband who just woke up at 2 15 this afternoon. Michael, you should be wide awake.

SPEAKER_05 0:15

Uh no.

SPEAKER_08 0:16

Yeah, you've only been up three hours, four hours.

SPEAKER_05 0:18

Okay, let's let's go back here, Victoria.

SPEAKER_08 0:20

Let's go.

SPEAKER_07 0:21

I got up at 5 to play video games, games, games, games, games.

SPEAKER_05 0:28

To let the dogs out.

SPEAKER_07 0:29

And to play video games, games, games, games, games.

SPEAKER_05 0:32

I play the Xbox while the dogs are out.

SPEAKER_07 0:35

You play for hours.

SPEAKER_05 0:36

Off the bay.

SPEAKER_08 0:38

And then I hope she starts texting during this game. And then you go back to bed.

SPEAKER_05 0:43

Somebody said, Oh, husband of mine who always brings me breakfast in bed every day. A frozen waffle. I don't care. It's still breakfast in bed.

SPEAKER_08 0:53

A frozen ego let go of my egg.

SPEAKER_05 0:56

I can see your ass get off, making your husband something.

SPEAKER_08 0:59

Excuse me. Who works 20 hours a day publishing? But you are full of shit. You don't want this podcast to go that route today, do you? Who works? You even said I'm a severe workaholic.

SPEAKER_04 1:10

I am.

SPEAKER_08 1:11

Not you, me. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05 1:16

Well.

SPEAKER_08 1:17

Yes. Good morning, Sunshine.

Books, New Releases, And Reader Reactions

SPEAKER_05 1:19

Our lifestyle is a little different now that I got fired.

SPEAKER_08 1:23

FMLA apparently doesn't matter in this country to some corporations that desperately try to market out on social media and get no likes, no follows, no nothing. What season are we in again?

SPEAKER_05 1:36

And then yeah, claim they're family oriented.

SPEAKER_08 1:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:39

So yeah, I got fired for not showing up for work. Even though you put an excuse because when I had to take my father to the hospital, or we were en route with ER, or we were already in the hospital, or there were surgeries, and you know. So yeah. Yeah, we would just try to do the right thing, and oh yeah, keep them alive around much longer. But that was the end, that was another time, and we're moving on. Yes. So now I reckon, as my daughter would say, my wife is my employer.

SPEAKER_08 2:23

I've always been your employer. That's why the CEO is over the president. Alexa, who is in charge? Don't give CEO or the president of a company.

SPEAKER_02 2:37

The CEO is typically the highest ranking executive in a company.

SPEAKER_03 2:41

Typically.

SPEAKER_08 2:44

The president usually handles daily operations according to the CEO and smaller companies. Recording to the CEO is the president. And let me ask you this. I began a contagious mile in 2006. I offered you the role of presidency in 2021. So how could you be over me when I give the role to you? Just questioning. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 3:11

So Alexa, shut up.

SPEAKER_08 3:15

She's talking to you.

SPEAKER_06 3:17

Alexa, stop. Thank you.

SPEAKER_08 3:19

So with that, she doesn't like him. So at all. It's kind of fun.

SPEAKER_05 3:23

Not fun at all.

SPEAKER_08 3:24

It's hilarious, actually.

SPEAKER_05 3:26

It's pretty funny. Shut up. Tell your employee.

SPEAKER_08 3:33

Alexa, stop. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 3:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_08 3:42

So I want to thank everybody who has just really been out there getting books lately. Uh Who Kicked First has gotten a lot of new readers. And also our newest book, which is right here, Healing After Narcissistic Abuse, just came out a few days ago, and it's doing really, really well. So thank you all for that. We were at the doctor's yesterday, and I'm sitting there talking to a beautiful woman. And next thing I know, she's like, Where is your book? I want to get it. I want to get it. And and literally, I mean, just the sweetest, sweetest lady.

SPEAKER_05 4:20

Sent down beside me, looked it up, and ordered it right there in front of me. Now that is awesome.

Michael Reads The New Chapter

SPEAKER_08 4:28

That was amazing. That's super amazing. So the new book, not the one that just came out a few days ago, there's another one coming out called Of course there is. He's in it, but he has not read it because it is so graphic and detail-oriented on the abuse itself that transpired. And I don't think he could handle it. And I was very nervous about him reading chapter one of this book. And he just read it, and I was like, this is the perfect time to do our bi-weekly podcast. So without giving too much away, let's talk about what this did for you, what your gut felt like and all that reading this first chapter.

SPEAKER_05 5:27

So I'm a very emotional guy. So to speak. When it comes to reading shit that directly involves my family and my wife.

SPEAKER_08 5:41

Wait, aren't I your family? You said my family and my wife.

SPEAKER_05 5:44

Aren't I Well, we have two other rug rats that kinda dishonest, you know. Two? Two.

SPEAKER_08 5:51

Okay. What does that have to do with my family and my wife? Your wife is your family. That just made no sense, not even for me.

SPEAKER_05 6:00

And I read very slow. Alright. I'm not the I'm not the best speed reader.

SPEAKER_08 6:04

So this one I've never seen you read something so fast.

SPEAKER_05 6:10

This is really it it really grips you, y'all. If those y'all who read Who Kicked First know what kind of writer my wife is, and she just she just draws you in. Every fiber of her soul is in these words, and and you're there. You're laying in her position. You're you're feeling her pain. You're you're you're smelling the the you know the the the acrid blood in the air. You're you're you're sensing everything that goes on around you, and then and then to not only have all those things happening to you, you know, from the abuse, you have the forethought to do steps A, B, C, and D after so that it won't be triggered again. And once you read the book, you'll understand what I'm talking about. You know, most of us are like fight or flight, you know, we're gonna fight the situation. If we can't, then you know, we may surrender to it. But m my wife was conditioned a different way by a monster. And it's just it's it's unreal to to you know, read this about this gorgeous, beautiful woman sitting across from me and to know that she she lived every minute of it, every second, every heart-wrenching, painstakingly eternal second.

SPEAKER_02 7:46

And she was being stabbed.

SPEAKER_03 7:53

Anyway, y'all, y'all pick up the book.

SPEAKER_08 7:55

It's not out yet.

SPEAKER_05 7:57

Who kicked first, and you'll have a damn good idea of what my wife went through.

Scars, Identity, And Healing

Abuse In Uniform And Cover-Ups

Statistics, Reporting, And Dehumanisation

SPEAKER_08 8:04

See, it's hard for me because like last night I was re-editing, and Who Kicked First is the first book I never edited. I literally, in the very beginning of the book, I apologize for grammatical errors. I am not great at grammar. I I'm the first one to admit that I'm better, that I'm not still at that level yet. And this was actually written at bedside with my daughter and the NICU in a medically induced coma because I was being interrogated left, right, and center, and everybody was asking me all sorts of questions. And I was writing things down because I didn't have anywhere to yell and scream. And so I only had a laptop to work in. So that's really hard. But now I go back and I read. And last night I told him, I told Michael, I said, I I it's just kind of a hard day because it's hard to relive it because I want it to be so authentic and so real that anybody who's either currently in an abusive situation or gotten out of it, they can see themselves in a situation because they relate and they know that I am not just somebody who hasn't lived it. I'm someone who's been right there in the trenches with them and I get it and I understand it. And I don't want them to be alone. I want them to know they have someone with them and helping them along the way. And that is so important to me. But as a woman, it's harder for me because yes, there are nasty, I have horrific scars. Like I am, you can't deny I have hundreds of scars. And it's even harder as a woman because I have horrific scarring even in my lower area. And to know that there are stabbing scars down there, it's hard. And then when you're married, you know, you're very subconscious about those things, but you have to bring yourself to a place where you see it as a sign of warrior of how many times somebody tried and failed and you succeeded, and it's a very hard thing to do. It is a very, very hard thing to do, and you you go through and realize, I mean, you know, part of the reason for this book is because so many women are afraid, and this book's gonna piss off a lot of people, and I know that, and that's okay, but anybody who's ever followed us or listened to us and supports us, know we are very much in favor of military and law enforcement. I mean, that's basically what our whole families are. And I always say just because there's a few bad apples in the orchard doesn't mean that they're all bad. And so we support the great men and women. However, there are those that are corrupt, there are those that do cover-ups, and it's more often than people have an idea. And it is very, very well documented that abuse is more prevalent in law enforcement and military. And so that hints why there's more of a cover-up. And here's the thing: if one in four women are abused, and that's what's reported, how many aren't reported? Let's think about that for a minute and think about those numbers. That is so scary. So let's say the listener right now is a woman. She has a daughter, she has a sister, and she has a mother. One in those four. That's scary. And if those are what's reported, what isn't reported? And so many women don't want to come forth and report because they are just another number in the system. They are just another case. They are a file. I was told flat out that, oh, your case fell through the cracks. I am not a case. My daughter is not a case. We are not a case number. You know, we are human beings. And I damn sure know that if God forbid it happened to them, they sure as hell wouldn't appreciate being identified as a case number either. So to those people who cover up because they want to make sure they get their next paycheck or they want to make sure that they get their next promotion or whatever the consequences for them would be, I hope to God no one that you love ever endures and goes through any kind of abuse and that you never have to go through what we go through because your career doesn't matter when it comes to the safety, security, and protection of individuals that go through this horrific abuse at the hands of someone. If you have no reason to have your hands put on anyone else in an unwarranted manner ever. I'll ask somebody if I can hug them. You know, you just don't go up and put you have a bad day, walk the hell away. That makes you a man. That makes you a hell of a man. That makes you a hell of an individual. You want to take out your aggression on somebody else, on a woman, a child, an animal. That makes you a flipping coward. That makes you a piece of shit. And I'll be the first one to say it all day long. And believe me, it took me a very long time to get to where I'm comfortable enough to say this now because I was the person that would walk out to the garbage wearing a gun on my hip. I wore five knives everywhere I go, and I'm still care. I care everywhere I go, and I have knives everywhere I go. And I just think it's cool because I have all these cards that say I have metal in me everywhere, so they don't search me. And the thing is, is that I know the only person that I could trust over the duration of this time was me. And it was my responsibility to protect my child, and I damn sure did it. And if you realize that going to the authorities, that pisses them off. I mean, that makes them, you know, I literally cannot tell you how many times that when law enforcement was advised that they were laughing with him and looking down at me. We had gotten pulled over once, and I was so like hopeful. Okay, this officer is gonna come up to the vehicle and they're gonna see that I'm pregnant. They're gonna see that my face is just totally smashed up and bruised. They're gonna do the right thing, right? They're gonna do the right thing. They gave him a card and offered him a job. I mean, I couldn't believe it. Like, I literally couldn't believe it that they just nothing. I mean, nothing. Not even, are you okay? It was, oh, she's very clumsy. Oh, okay, yeah. Okay, I get it. And just nothing. I mean, you just sink into the reality of that's what this is gonna be. This is how it's gonna be, you know, when my nose was broken in front of his captain. I thought, okay, now they're gonna do the right thing. Nothing was done. You know, when they did they did put him into, because mine ex was military, they did put him into holding on the barracks or whatever you want to call it. Uh they had a lieutenant that he knew and was, you know, that he knew watching him. And I said, I'm formally requesting he be transferred to another installation because this is not okay. I don't, you know, and they were like, no, aren't you, you know, asking for enough? I'm asking to live. What am I asking for? You know, and like I said, I very heavily support our military. I very heavily support it. So please don't misconstrue that. My husband was Air Force, don't misconstrue that at all. But how is it that those that cover up the abuse, which is so dominant in the military, how is it that you can't even protect a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil, right? I'm an American citizen. And it's your responsibility in the military to cover, you know, to protect. And but even law enforcement. And so they give him a lieutenant that he knew. I begged for him to be transferred, I was denied, and then I get a notification that they're at a bar on my credit card drinking. And I had the receipt, I got the receipt because it also came on my bank statement. And so we pulled security camera and got a picture of them drinking at a bar while he's supposed to be held because of the quote unquote allegations. And when I brought this to command, they were like, he had to eat. Did he have they're laughing, cutting up, having a good time drinking? There was a pitcher of beer on the table. He has to eat. Do you take people that have been held for whatever you want to call it to a bar with alcohol and the person assigned to watching you is drinking? I mean, come on now. This is why I am so very big about honesty. And it, you know, when they say he said, she said, absolutely not. I am a person who believes in evidence times a million. And still, it doesn't matter because if it's gonna get covered up, it's gonna get covered up. And in 2026, we still have to worry about how we are gonna survive. And then what's worse is they try to placate with our kids in the picture. Like, well, there's a thing called co-parenting, and co-parenting has to exist. Once they put their hands on their spouse, and I would love Michael to give me his thoughts on this. Once they put their hands on the spouse, it's only a matter of time before they put them on the children. It is only a matter of time, and it will happen. And they're also gonna use the child as a pawn back and forth, back and forth. And this is what's gonna happen. It happened, Michael was used as a pawn, and it was back and forth, back and forth. And because the two parents didn't like each other, they use the kids as pawns, and you can't you can't do that. You cannot ruin a child so that they spend their entire adulthood recovering from their childhood. We didn't ask number one to be born. We didn't ask you to lay down, open your legs, and get knocked up or have a baby, or whatever it is you want to say. And we definitely didn't ask you to hurt us. Your responsibility as a parent is to protect us and prepare us for the next phase of life, not ruin our life, not make it where we're scared of our own shadow or we know that we can't trust anyone because no one is there to help us. That is not how life is supposed to be. And that is why both my husband and I have broken the generational cycle and will not allow it to go on. And it is not an easy thing to do, but our kids are worth it a thousand percent. I mean, babe, what are your thoughts? How often do you see once the abuser starts on the wife, how long and before they actually start on the children?

Co‑Parenting, Children As Pawns

SPEAKER_05 18:53

I won't say my ex because she's no longer mine, right? And and I don't claim it. But I did have an ex, the second ex that I was under her thumb, and and we'll say it was verbal and emotional abuse. Okay? Wasn't physical, she just wasn't strong enough. But what she was strong enough is was to whoop her own kids. And this was it was it it was something that I wasn't a hundred percent against at the time, you know, whooping your kids because that's how I was raised. But the severity that this woman put on her kids, I probably I don't know if I ever told you, she would get so irate and so mad. Now, little did she know that her daughter was special needs, and and that's why she she couldn't verbally verbally communicate, and she would get so frustrated and angry with that child and just tear into her, but it's not the child's fault, and then take it out on the boy too. But it's not the child's fault. I know I have spoken to the boy numerous times, and she would whoop them with a belt. Oh no, oh no, you know, no, no, her shoe, her flip-flop, just tear into it, and a lot of times I had to stop and said that that's excessive, that's enough. No, no, uh no, you know, and this I I'll I'm it's prevalent in any society, but this was on the Hispanic side.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

And yeah, so would it have progressed to me had she been physically able? Yes. I'm sure it would have.

SPEAKER_05 20:54

So you see it happening to the spouse, the partner, the significant other, it will happen to the kids. It it's just a matter of time.

SPEAKER_08 21:03

And people say, no, no, no, it will never happen. Yes, it will. It absolutely will. I mean, it absolutely will. And then when or the pet.

SPEAKER_05 21:14

Oh my gosh, you walked the the dog one time. I felt so bad for that dog.

SPEAKER_08 21:19

I mean caught and killed my puppy. Yeah. To show me what he would do if I left. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's unbelievable. You know, I can't even watch videos. I guess that's another reason I I'm so like my husband against our loves to watch like tick against our what.

SPEAKER_05 21:37

Oh, thought you want to talk about our movie night videos.

Escalation To Kids And Pets

Conditioning, Control, And De‑Escalation Limits

The Charmer’s Playbook And Grooming

SPEAKER_08 21:39

No, no, no, no, like you guys love to watch TikTok and all that crap. I can't do it because I've I've scrolled through and I see because I try to support people who support us, but then I see like videos of of somebody hurting a dog or throwing a dog out of a car. And I hope when I see it, it's AI, but you can tell it's not. And it's like even if it's I'm angry at the person who made it because how do you do that? Like I look at our sweet dogs, and if anybody even oh, oh no, no, no, no, no, no. Nope, no, I can't, I can't fathom how you look at how sweet Stucco and Rusty are, and how gentle and loving they are. There is no way I can understand how somebody could do that, right? I I don't understand how somebody could hurt somebody like that. It's mind-blowing to me because what did they ever do except want unconditional love? You know, and then you see these dogs that chase the cars that are trying to get back in the car with their owner, that are trying, you know, to hurry up and get back to wherever they were supposed to be. That got they just got thrown out of a car. And now the dogs are literally chasing the car down the road trying to get back with them. And it's heart-wrenching, it's absolutely heart-wrenching. I don't understand how people can do it. I mean, you know, what if God forbid you you're an abuser and then all of a sudden you see them hurt somebody, but then something happens to them, you know, and nobody wants to take care of you? You know, how do you feel about that then? I mean, you're gonna end up very alone. You're gonna end up, you know, I I just can't understand how some people get up and function. I I just can't. Because at the end of the day, aren't you lonely? You know, aren't you just, you know, it's kind of like the they always say, oh, men buy these really expensive cars because they're you know proving something else, you know, they're compensating, yeah. Thank you. They're compensating for smaller things or whatever, and I mean that's just stupid, that's just dumb. I mean, you look at somebody, I only back talked, I call him idiot, a couple of times. And the old me prior to the abuse, I mean he testified in court that he waited until I was pregnant to hit me because he knew that had he hit me and I wasn't pregnant, it would have been over. And he's absolutely right. I mean, I hate to give him credit, but it was absolutely right. Nobody would have put their hand on me in that position. And everybody's like, Well, you don't know what you do to you're in that that certain spot. And that's absolutely correct. It's absolutely and I made a deal with the devil. I said, as long as you don't touch my stomach, I will not hit you back. And one of the first things you learn in any martial art training is de-escalation, just in law enforcement, same thing. You learn to de-escalate the situation. But when you are straddled over in the middle of the night and beaten in your face to say, Hey, bitch, get up and get me something to drink, you know you can't de-escalate to get away, and you only have like one chance, and you have to have your stuff together. You have to, or you're gonna end up right back in that situation. And that's the thing. And you know, I I said to him a couple of times, you know, he told me he would hit my daughter if she dropped her pacifier. And I was in my office, he had spontaneously showed up, which I didn't understand how he could do it, but he did, and he would just show up in the office, and he wanted to make sure all the pictures were how they were supposed to be. I had the dog tags on, I always had to have them on under my suit, but people had to know that they were there, and just all the pictures had to be where everybody could see them, and I was wearing my ring, and you know, and it was just such stuff, and you just like you pick your battle because it's like you just, you know, my office. I had an assistant, and and if I was on the phone, you can't go in there right now. He'd push her to the side and he'd go in anyway, and it was always he had this God complex, and it just blew my mind that you can't comprehend the mindset of these creatures because they're not men, and I know men get abused too. I'm not taking away from that for a minute. I am not for a minute not advocating and supporting men that get abused either. I am here for them as well, and I have talked to many different men that have gone through it, and I'm here for them as well. But right now I'm talking about women, and I cannot grasp the mindset of anyone that can cause harm to another individual in that manner. I mean, I just can't. I mean, even if it's not physical and it's emotional and it's financial, it's psychological, whatever the case may be, how miserable of a creature must you be to want to bring someone to that level with you? I mean, you have to be so miserably unhappy. And one of the things I always knew grow growing up, my grandparents always, you know, would say, and I would always ask, how is it my sperm donor came from y'all when y'all were like the best human beings on the planet? And I said, How is it you raised them? And they would say, Well, look whose daughter you are, you know, we could ask the same thing. And I didn't understand that. I couldn't figure out what they meant by that. But it was there, they were just trying to show me, and they would always say, The best revenge is the revenge served cold because it's not expected, it's unexpected and comes out of nowhere. And the best revenge you can give is success because abusers do not want to see you succeed, because most abusers are alcoholics, they're into drugs, they are into promiscuity, they are in an unhappy marriage, they aren't successful at work. There's so many elements of unhappiness in their layer of life, and they don't want to see someone they're trying to tear down build themselves up. They don't want to see success in others when they see failure in theirs. And that was one of the things that I was taught early on was that you are not meant to succeed in their eyes, and they're gonna do everything they possibly can to make sure that you don't. And that's a very big deal. Like if you're an attractive person, they're gonna do everything they can to disfigure you if it's a physical abuse so that no one else will want you. I heard it every single day. Everybody laughs at you, everybody, you know, feels bad for me. This was his words. Everybody feels bad for me that I'm with such an ugly woman. Everybody feels bad that I had to lower my standards to be with someone who looks like you. And you hear this every single day, you begin to believe it. And it was nobody would ever want you. Nobody's ever gonna want to touch you. You're disgusting. Look at you. And then when you have your own biological family say, Hey, here's a Sharpie marker. If you're really bored, why don't you take a Sharpie and connect all of your scars that'll keep you busy the whole night? Or you look like Freddie Kruger and the elephant man had a baby together. These are things that I would never say to someone I love. You know, faith has overcome so much. She is a force to be reckoned with. And if someone said to me, you have to say something like this to her, absolutely not. There's nothing, nothing you could do to make me do it. Nothing. Because I'm so cognitively aware of every word I say to people I love, because I don't ever want a year, two years, five years, ten years down the road for them to say, Man, we were in this heated argument, and you said this, and it has stuck with me all these years. Because everybody gets heated, everybody has disagreements and discrepancies, but you don't have to belittle them and take away anything from them because you had a disagreement about something petty and dumb or whatever. You don't have to do that because at one point in time you pick them, and you're right. I I in my own way picked idiot, but I didn't pick the idiot that was real, I picked the idiot that was portrayed to me, which is a very charismatic, very like the the care, the the charismatic way of a true abuser is they come in and give you everything. They find what's called like the ace in the hole. They find where your weakness is, and mine was I wanted a family, I wanted my own personal intimate family, I wanted to be a mom, and I had just lost a baby, and so I really wanted a family, and I was mourning. I was mourning my loss of Michael, I was mourning the loss of our our child, and I was devastated. And honestly, first time in my entire life, I tried the guilt and the jealousy thing. I thought, well, maybe if Michael saw me with somebody else, that'd make him want to be with me. And I he kept trying to say to me, Oh, we've been unhappy with everybody else, and you know, you're not really giving me a chance. And I flat told him I didn't love him. And he was like, Well, if you just let the wall down, you will, you know, and I'm like, no, I won't. And he kept trying and trying, and he was so charismatic. Oh, my family's all about children and they adopt kids and they do this and they do that. And on paper, if you put everything on paper, he looked like Prince Charming. But he wasn't. Everything about him was a false pretense, everything about him was a lie, and this is what they do, this is how they draw you in. And, you know, I sat on the bathroom floor in a black suit with my palm pilot. I think I just aged myself out, looking for flights back to my home state because I didn't want to do it. Everything in my gut told me not to do it. And I mean, it was atrocious. I did not want to be there, and I knew it was a big, huge mistake. And I prayed about it, and I'm not pushing religion on anyone, and I prayed and I prayed and I prayed, and something came over me and said something amazing is gonna come out of this, and it did. And, you know, back then I never thought I would have the happiness that I have now. And for the people that are out there that are listening and that are going through this horrific thing, I was on the top of my career. I I really couldn't go much further up in my career. I was as high up basically as I could be. There was not much further up I could go. I had everything I ever wanted except an intimate personal family of my own. That was all that I was missing. And I lost everything except I had myself and I had my daughter, and you know what? That made me one hell of a winner. And I started up again from nothing, and now I have my soulmate in the love of my life, and I have our beautiful daughter, and we have our life together, and you know, there's nothing that can compare a touch to that. And my husband looks like he's jumping in the bits, so now I'm gonna let him say something as I've just rattled on.

SPEAKER_05 33:09

It's all right, we love you, Victoria.

SPEAKER_08 33:11

Yeah, thanks.

SPEAKER_05 33:13

So, y'all want to know more about that resilience? That I should say, champion, survivor, that warrior that is Victoria Cure. Y'all go pick up her book, Who Kicks First.

SPEAKER_08 33:29

Why don't you talk about personal experience instead of my book? Okay, read it first.

SPEAKER_05 33:34

Hey, y'all go to Victoria.com.

SPEAKER_08 33:36

No, it's not Victoria.com. See, this is why you're never in you're fired.

SPEAKER_05 33:40

See, you get me flustered, woman.

SPEAKER_08 33:42

Yeah, it's so gorgeous. Whatever. It's Victoria Cure.com.

SPEAKER_05 33:46

VictoriaCure.com. C the last name is spelled C-U-O-R-E.

SPEAKER_06 33:53

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05 33:54

Go check out those books and grab a box of tissues. But be sure to pass them on to uh others, you know, because there's someone out there who absolutely needs to know how to get out of situations like my wife was in. And then, as as she's already stated, here I am. And it is possible. Is alright, babe? Babe. What? Happy ending.

SPEAKER_08 34:23

I'm letting you talk.

SPEAKER_05 34:24

Oh, okay. You're supposed to piggyback say, Yes, Michael, it is a happy ending.

SPEAKER_08 34:29

Yes, Michael, keep talking.

SPEAKER_04 34:32

Oh my gosh. What did we do, woman?

SPEAKER_08 34:37

Are there options? Is there a list?

SPEAKER_04 34:39

I can make one.

SPEAKER_08 34:40

Yeah, have it an inventory list. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Our daughter's writing a song called Procrastination for.

SPEAKER_05 34:52

She'd probably get more mugged about that.

SPEAKER_08 34:54

Mugsticky! I loved him. Oh my god. He was hilarious on the show. He was so much fun.

SPEAKER_05 35:00

If y'all don't know who mugsticky is, go ahead and look him up.

Losing Everything And Finding Resilience

SPEAKER_08 35:03

And if you chat with him, tell him we sent you to him. He is hilarious. I mean, yes. First of all, I love his story. I love his sister cookie. I love what he does for her. It is so awesome and amazing. He loves his sister so much. And the story is amazing. And I love the concept of his some of his music. I have not heard every single song. I have not. But they're hilarious. And if you know anything about Faith and my husband, they prank each other constantly. And with that, like Faith loves to do one song where it says, Hey, go F yourself. You know, and I mean he goes through this song about what you can do if you don't like him. And Faith loves to sing that song at certain doctors and things after everything she's been through. And it it's a riot. It's a riot. He's hilarious. I mean, what a great, he's not hurting a single person. He's freaking hysterical. He's a huge-hearted human being. Like he's got such a big heart. And I love that. Now I am gonna derail for just a minute because I have to tell you, if you go on Facebook and you pull up anything of any of our pages or groups or anywhere else, and if it's not there yet, I will make sure tonight that it is. We went last night for a Mexican, and these two always are bantering and play. If you ever watch Grumpy Old Men, you'll see what my life is like. You know how they grumpy old men like Walter Mathell and I just lost his name, Jack Lemon, always would be like putts, and he'd be like dickhead, you know, and it was hilarious. Well, my husband and daughter do this to each other. Like she'll walk up and be like slut, and he's like virgin, and you know, this is what they do. And we're at the Mexican restaurant and they decide they're gonna make a bet. And my husband already lost it, like within 12 hours of of making the bet and shaking hands on it. And the deal was that my husband was not gonna play video games in any capacity, whether Xbox, on the computer, on the set on the phone, the tablet. I mean, she made sure that any device was named so he couldn't find a loophole in this. And he couldn't do it for 10 days. And in return, she was gonna read 30 minutes a night with no screen, no tablet, no phone, no nothing, every night before bed. So they agreed. And whoever failed at this had to be the other one's cleaning person for a month. Now, this was great. So my husband, not even six hours later, had already lost. And she screenshot the picture off the camera. So if he ever disputed it, she could say, Hey, here you go, buddy. So we're having dinner last night at a Mexican restaurant.

SPEAKER_05 37:41

Pretty smart.

Lightness Returns: Family Humor And Music

SPEAKER_08 37:42

And yeah, no, she's my kid. So we're having dinner last night, and he makes some comment like he always does, and my daughter decides, okay, that's it. So she picks up a little bit of the rice, and she looked like she was gonna toss it at him. Now, these two are known for food fights and public displays of like restaurants, like they'll throw food no matter where we are publicly. So he looks at her and says, You don't have the balls. And now she is over 18, so it's not like he's saying this to an eight-year-old. So he says to her, You don't have the balls. So she just keeps getting more and more rice, right? And then he's like, Go ahead, you don't have the balls, go ahead. And so she's like, Really? Are you daring me? He's like, Yep, because I know you won't do it to me. I know you won't. Now, the one thing we know about my husband is you do not touch his tea. He's very atomic. Swallow about his sweet tea. He's very big about his sweet tea. So she looks over at him and he's like, Go ahead. You don't have it in you to do it. And she takes the Mexican rice with the corn and all that and dumps it in his sweet tea. And my husband's jaw like did the cartoon thing. And so she decided that wasn't good enough. So then she broke a chip into little minute pieces and put the chip in the tea, like in little pieces. Then she decided this wasn't really gonna be it. And then he had just gotten this refill too, so it wasn't like he was almost done. So this was a full glass of sweet tea, and it had lemon in it, it was his favorite, he was good to go. So then she takes. Now my husband used to be able to eat jalapenos like they were tic-tacks or tomes or whatever, no problem. Now, my husband, a lussy boy, can't tolerate normal salsa and has to ask the server for mild salsa because even the regular salsa is is too hard for him now. So she takes the hot salsa and she pours a good little portion of it in his tea. And he is like, Are you freaking kidding me? So then she, you know, she's like, What is those red drinks called? Because she doesn't drink. And he was like, Oh, bloody Mary. She's like, Right. So she pulls some flour tortillas and she rolls them all up and she sticks it in there and says, Here's your celery. So we have the rice, the corn, the chip, the salsa. Oh, she took some bit of chicken from my chicken quesadilla, put that in there, and then she stirs it up, and she goes, I double dare you to drink it. And he was like, What? So he was like, She goes, I dare you to drink it. So he is like, I get two weeks off my time of being your cleaning person if I do this. So my husband, bless this thump and gizzard, decided he was gonna try and push it further and says, two and a half weeks off. And she goes, You have to drink a fourth of it if you do. And he was like, What? And she's like, a fourth of it gets two weeks off. He couldn't do it. So she was like, then don't bother me with this petty two and a half weeks. So he agrees. So she videotapes this. If you can ever imagine you have not seen FB yet, put it on. If you can imagine Popeye and one of the three stooges all at the same time, play it.

SPEAKER_00 40:56

Play it?

The Restaurant Bet And Sweet Tea Chaos

SPEAKER_08 40:57

Yeah, people can hear you. It is a downright riot while he's pulling this up. So he's doing Popeye, he's doing one of the three stooges, he's making all these faces. So when we get done, she she's literally laughing so hard she can barely catch her breath. He's already lost the bet again, and so she's like, Oh, now you're at six weeks. All right, go ahead and put another mic and play this. This is hilarious. He didn't even drink an eighth of it. Like, I don't even think he drank a whole straw full. I mean, what did it taste like? You can hear Fate laughing.

SPEAKER_05 42:10

I look like Papa, I got one eye swinging.

SPEAKER_08 42:12

Wait, and then you do this three stooges thing with your hand. Yeah, that was uh what did it taste like?

SPEAKER_05 42:21

Shit. No, seriously. No, I'm serious. What flavor did you get? Every flavor.

SPEAKER_08 42:28

Well it was hot sauce.

SPEAKER_05 42:32

Everything.

SPEAKER_08 42:33

Can you get any lime? Because that the salsa I had that was normal salsa had a lot very big lime to it. Yeah, it had some lime flavoring it. And it and then she's like, oh, now you're back up to six weeks.

SPEAKER_05 42:48

Oh, that faith of ours.

SPEAKER_08 42:50

You adore her. She's got you so wrapped.

SPEAKER_07 42:55

It's so cool. It's so cute. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_08 43:02

No crickets.

SPEAKER_05 43:04

No crickets.

SPEAKER_08 43:05

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 43:06

What? I can talk about her books.

SPEAKER_08 43:09

You always talk about the books. You always talk about the books.

SPEAKER_05 43:15

Those are on Amazon.

SPEAKER_08 43:18

I keep telling him we need to write a book together.

SPEAKER_05 43:20

Y'all. I can't put this. Verbally. We have we have a podcast, okay? Our voice? Our voice gets out there. Why? Because we wanted to, and my wife made it happen. Okay. But I always talk about my wife and my daughter like this. All the time, everywhere I go. Really? Really? Okay, you do. What? Sometimes. What? Sometimes. Woman? What? You better get it right.

unknown 43:52

What?

SPEAKER_05 43:55

Case in point. Lord. The other day. In my book, it was probably like two or three weeks ago. The other day.

SPEAKER_08 44:03

Say the other day. Now you're saying it's two or three weeks ago.

SPEAKER_05 44:06

Which was my daughter and I are in a vehicle. I get a phone call. It was from a customer of mine when I had a job doing garage doors. What season? And she refreshed my memory as to who this was. And she said, Don't you remember? I bought your daughter's books. You told me all about your daughter and your wife. And I had a witness. My daughter was sitting in the passenger seat of the truck. And I said, That's just wonderful. Thank you for validating how much I talk about my wife and my daughter. To everyone, complete strangers, even. And this one happened to buy one of my daughters. She bought two of my daughter's books. Since my daughter. So I hope you husbands out there talk about y'all's wife, wives, if you're from Utah. Oh my god. And children. Children? Children. Children. Yes, children. The way I do. Because if you love them, you lift them up, you put them before you. I always put my wife before me. Case in point. Every day, breakfast and bed.

SPEAKER_08 45:20

A frozen waffle. Ego my ego. Woman?

SPEAKER_05 45:23

Ego your egg.

SPEAKER_08 45:24

Let go my ego. What is the little thing they say? Let go my ego. My ego.

SPEAKER_05 45:28

My ego.

SPEAKER_08 45:30

And have you ever run out of anything? You always have all your favorite groceries. You have all your favorite snacks. You have all your never run out of body wash. Because all you do is sleep. How am I supposed to? And then when I wake you up, you're an asshole when we go to wake you up. Asshole part's true.

SPEAKER_05 45:46

No, you you are. I'm the one that's awake to bring you breakfast.

SPEAKER_08 45:50

Because you you pop in a waffle while you're waiting for the dogs to go out because they don't wake me up like they wake you up. And I'm up working 20 hours a day while you're seeing the inside of your eyelids.

SPEAKER_05 46:00

I love all your excuses.

SPEAKER_08 46:02

Really? Okay, do you want to go over the list of things that are supposed to be done that haven't been done?

SPEAKER_05 46:08

In your book. Which book?

SPEAKER_08 46:10

I've written how many? 46. How many have you written?

SPEAKER_05 46:13

Zero.

SPEAKER_08 46:13

How many have you read?

SPEAKER_05 46:15

Zero.

SPEAKER_08 46:16

You've all you've not read any of mine?

SPEAKER_05 46:18

I have not read any of yours.

SPEAKER_08 46:19

Why?

SPEAKER_05 46:20

I can't.

SPEAKER_08 46:21

Why?

SPEAKER_05 46:23

I've read Faith.

SPEAKER_08 46:25

But why can't you read mine?

SPEAKER_05 46:26

Because yours are tough.

SPEAKER_08 46:28

You just told me yesterday what an amazing writer I am.

SPEAKER_05 46:33

Read in the extent of editing one of your books.

SPEAKER_08 46:38

You always talk.

SPEAKER_05 46:40

You always. No. You gave me feedback.

SPEAKER_08 46:45

You always tell me what kind of an amazing writer I am.

SPEAKER_05 46:49

What?

SPEAKER_08 46:49

Amazing writer.

SPEAKER_05 46:50

Yes, you are an amazing writer.

SPEAKER_08 46:52

Then why wouldn't you want to read my books? Why?

SPEAKER_04 46:56

No.

SPEAKER_08 46:56

Why?

SPEAKER_04 46:57

No.

SPEAKER_08 46:57

Why?

SPEAKER_06 46:57

No.

SPEAKER_08 46:58

Why?

unknown 46:58

No.

SPEAKER_08 46:59

Why? Why? Why? So we're getting close to getting my new puppy.

Love, Teasing, And Domestic Logistics

SPEAKER_05 47:09

And we're my damn dog, this one. Whatever. Yes.

SPEAKER_08 47:12

No. We'll see who she loves all over.

SPEAKER_05 47:16

And I'm gonna call her Swan.

SPEAKER_08 47:18

Swan? Why Swan?

SPEAKER_05 47:21

Why Mumbo?

SPEAKER_08 47:22

Because I had the best first dog ever, named Mumbo. Yes. So okay, I had a stucco, but I named Stucco after you. You had a stucco? You were my original stucco. I'm still stucco. And so is my dog. Then why do people have sons and they name him after the dad? Because it's like a legacy thing, right? And it's like a respectful thing. It's why you name like Junior and whatever.

SPEAKER_05 47:44

I just thought they couldn't come up with a better name.

SPEAKER_08 47:46

Oh, that's because never mind. But I named Stucco because he was humping just like you, everybody. And so that is why Stucco is Stucco. And they said my boy, my baby. There you speak of him. Because he loves his mama. He loves his mama. And so, hey, baby boy, come in.

SPEAKER_05 48:05

My dog that way.

SPEAKER_08 48:06

Come here, Stucco. There's you hear him? There's his tail. There's his tail. So I think it's respect, and that would be a good name. I named him after you.

SPEAKER_05 48:18

I'll let you know what my dog's name will be. I should be getting our dog here soon. March. I gotta get with our buddy.

SPEAKER_08 48:26

Stucco! March. It'll be March. Stucco's birthday is next week.

SPEAKER_05 48:33

And he's laying on the button on my desk.

SPEAKER_08 48:35

That's because I have shit under my desk. And that's because you don't clean up the shit under your desk. That box, that bin right there, has been there five months.

SPEAKER_05 48:46

It has all the things I need to do.

SPEAKER_08 48:48

You can't find shit in there right now. Nope. You can't find anything in there. That is your box. I love this. Ladies, I know you know these excuses that they give us, right? I'm gonna do it tomorrow. Who is they? I men! I know they're gonna do it tomorrow, right? I hear this all the time. I'm gonna do it tomorrow. I give you my word. I'm gonna do it tomorrow. I promise. I promise. I promise. Uh that never happens. I asked my husband to hang a shelf. It took a year. A year to hang a shelf.

SPEAKER_05 49:16

It was a very complex shelf. No, it wasn't. You're right, it wasn't. But it still took you a year. I had other priorities.

SPEAKER_08 49:25

Video games.

SPEAKER_05 49:27

And?

SPEAKER_08 49:28

No. So, like, we're also rearranging some things in the house. And so I my husband's like, I'll get to it, I'll get to it. And then there's her new term for her song Procrastination. And he doesn't. So I went ahead and started, and I started moving furniture by myself, one-handed, post-spinal surgery. And he's like, Woman, I'll get to it. Well, us women know that if we don't either begin to do it ourselves or complete it ourselves, it doesn't get done in a timely manner.

SPEAKER_05 49:59

Are you done? No. Can we get off this train? No. Anyway, y'all know what a big fat heart my wife has. And how amazing she is. And that 1-900 voice she goes into sometimes when she's reading. What? You can check out some of her Instagram ads. Yes.

SPEAKER_08 50:25

What does that have to do with my heart?

SPEAKER_05 50:27

You have such a great disposition and personality.

SPEAKER_08 50:30

Not everybody would agree with you.

SPEAKER_05 50:32

That I know one small Asian child would agree with you.

SPEAKER_08 50:38

Oh my god, I made my day! It was so awesome! Oh, okay, keep going.

SPEAKER_05 50:45

Now she's all smiles. So apparently they're in the Nope, don't say where.

SPEAKER_08 50:53

Nail salon? Sure.

SPEAKER_05 50:55

I guess nail salon place?

SPEAKER_08 50:56

Yeah. My friend works there.

SPEAKER_05 50:58

My wife gets half off.

SPEAKER_08 51:00

You're an asshole.

SPEAKER_05 51:01

You've already stated that.

SPEAKER_08 51:03

Because I'm one-handed, he decides to make a hand. No handoffs for you.

SPEAKER_05 51:08

There is a small child that has somewhat of a guarded personality, I guess. Oh my gosh, so cute.

SPEAKER_08 51:22

No one, literally. That is a mama's girl.

SPEAKER_05 51:27

And so my wife made a wager with the my friend. Yes, your friend.

SPEAKER_08 51:34

Who works there.

SPEAKER_05 51:36

If I can get your daughter to come to me.

SPEAKER_08 51:38

No, it wasn't her daughter. It was her best friend's daughter.

SPEAKER_05 51:41

The kid, the kid.

SPEAKER_08 51:42

Right.

SPEAKER_05 51:43

To come to me.

SPEAKER_08 51:44

Who the kid does not even go to my friend.

SPEAKER_05 51:46

Go ahead and tell the story. Yeah. It's cute.

Dogs, Names, And Household Reorg

SPEAKER_08 51:49

So my friend, who her best friend is pregnant and having the baby tomorrow, and we're sending the best wishes, had her daughter with her today. And my best friend, like her best friend, was like, oh, this kid never comes to me ever. She never lets anybody come near her. Blah, blah, blah. And so I made a little wager. I was like, I'll bet you my nails that I can get this little one to come to me. No way. I was like, all right. So I'm also friends with my friend's best friend. So we're we're like all friends. And we're chatting, and I'm talking to her tomorrow about tomorrow and her going in for the baby. She's delivering her son tomorrow and all. And we're talking about it. And her little girl is so stinking cute. And everybody keeps going up to her and saying, Come here, let me hold you. No, like, no. Like, she won't go to anybody. So finally she came up to me. And people were like, What? And so finally, like, she let me hold her. She put her head on my shoulder. She was loving on me. And her mom's like, Come here. And she's like, No. And then she was like, bye, bye-bye. And then she walked up and I went to see my friend who had gone to the other side of the salon. And she was like, Are you kidding me? So she says something in a different language. And I said, What did you just say? And she goes, Oh, I said F you in my language. And I was like, Why would you say that? She I said, I thought I was your friend. She goes, You are my friend. I said it with friendliness. And she goes, I've known that kid since the day she was born. She won't let me pick her up. I've never held her. And I was like, Oh, okay. So I put her down and I said, Here you go. And then she looks over at her, and the little girl looks back at me and puts her hands back in the air for me to pick her back up. So I do. And she was just like, she kissed me on the nose, and I was like, I'm done. I'm done. I was like, Do you want to go home with me? I have puppies. We'll play. She did not want to leave my side. And it was the sweetest thing. And she put her little arms around me and gave me hugs and put her head down on me. And she was so cute. We went walking around the whole, you know, nail salon together, just like up and down everywhere. And then I asked her about Mickey Mouse. And she I put her down and she went running like everything. Like, so I love when kids run, and they're just like, you know, and she brings me back her Mickey Mouse cup. And she's like, Mm-hmm, Mouse, Mickey Mouse. And so I just she showed it to me and she offered it to me. And I picked her back up. And I mean, then I walked around like we were, she was trying to chase me. And then she wanted me to pick her up again. And I'm walking around holding this kid. And the mom is like, Come on, we gotta go. No. I'll get you McDonald's. No. I'll get you French fries. No. I'll get you a happy meal. No. She did not want to leave my site. And everybody there was like, she never lets anybody pick her up ever. She was smiling and laughing and cutting up with me, having the best time. It was so sweet. It made my whole day. It really did because this beautiful little girl came up, kissed me on the nose, and then she was oh my god. And and then when I left, I called Michael and I was like, I'm bringing home another child. I mean, I am. I I offered, I offered to bring her home. I her mom had a baby. And you know, and it was just like, oh, this kid just made my day. Literally, I mean, 30 extra minutes. I was in there just playing with this little sweet angel, and she was so much fun. So much fun. Like, and everybody would be like, Can I have one of your cookies? No, no. And then I said, Can I have one? Yes. And she'd hand me one. I'm like, oh no, thank you. You can eat it. You really? And I was like, no, you can eat it. And she'd eat it. I'm like, you wanna go get a lollipop? And she's like, Yes. I took her to get one. And I mean, she was so, oh my god. See, this is why. Look at what you did. And I mean, that little girl was so cute.

SPEAKER_07 55:37

So cute. She had little pigtails. So cute. I was like, I want a baby. I want another one.

SPEAKER_05 55:47

Y'all see why I love this woman? She's got a big heart.

SPEAKER_08 55:50

It's so cute. Like, so cute. Oh. So cute. That little girl is so cute. Seriously. And she's like, she won't ever put the phone down. And I was like, who gives her the phone? You do. So she's addicted to tech, you know, electronics since she's 18 months old because you're giving her the phone as a babysitter. And I was like, I'm not touching that phone while I have her. I promise you. No, she has to have that phone at all times. She has to watch her videos. I'm like, not with me. She won't. I handed, I said, can I see a phone? And she's like, uh-huh. And hands me the phone. Put the phone down. We never touched it again. We had fun. We interacted. We played. We did not touch that dog on phone. Mom was like, what? And I was like, yeah, I don't need that phone. I don't know. Nope. Nope. Mm-mm. It's not a babysitter for crying out loud. Right? We had so much fun. And I asked her, I said, watch. She goes, No, she wants her phone. I was like, no, she doesn't. So I said to her, I said, Do you want your phone? Uh-uh. What? Oh, okay. Thank you. I love kids. I love kids. Probably why I'm married to you.

SPEAKER_04 56:50

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_08 56:53

It just lit up. When I called my husband, he was like, What have you done? I can hear it in your voice.

SPEAKER_06 56:57

I'm like, it was the cutest little kid. She was so cute.

SPEAKER_08 57:03

Her little pigtails, you know, and then the little swish, swish, swish, swish when she's, you know, waddling around. Oh.

SPEAKER_05 57:09

Do they listen to our show? I know and I know at your beautician they do.

SPEAKER_08 57:15

Oh my god, they yes. But I don't know if I know my friend has. I don't know if her best friend, the pregnant woman, we've only become like friendly probably in the last couple months. I don't know if she has or not. I I talked to her in depth about helping her with the baby when the baby is born, you know, and what could be done because the baby's gonna need some surgery. And so I told her whatever I could do to help, I would help. No question asked, just text me and let me know what she needs. So I don't know if she does or not. But I'm sure if my friend hears this, she's gonna get really angry with me. And uh I'll hear about it when I see her next.

Community Moments And A Child’s Warmth

SPEAKER_05 58:05

So I want to end on this note, this thought, and I want to put it out of there to y'all who have A, purchased my wife's book. Here we go. And B have not reviewed the book. Okay, we have I think two or three negative reviews. Okay? They were made up by one person, yes, okay, on different accounts. Okay, it's the same language, it's the lingo that he uses all his life throughout the years, so we know who the AO is.

SPEAKER_08 58:41

Because somebody got called out for the truth.

SPEAKER_05 58:43

Right. So please do Victoria a favor. One, buy her book and read it and then review it. Okay. And just put your honest opinion in there. You know? We would greatly appreciate that. And uh be sure to jump over to victoriacuree.com to check out many other books. And we'll look forward to her new and 47th book coming up here soon. And if you type in Victoria Cure, she's in probably like nine magazines, fourteen? I don't forgot. You're in so damn many.

SPEAKER_08 59:22

Well, I write for some too.

SPEAKER_05 59:23

You write for a lot.

SPEAKER_08 59:25

And we will be on the cover for Podcast International in March.

SPEAKER_05 59:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 59:31

That's kind of exciting.

SPEAKER_05 59:33

So, y'all want to know who we are, what we look like?

SPEAKER_08 59:36

I apologize for my appearance. My husband's hot, but he's married. No, no, no. He will not uh stray out of this marriage.

SPEAKER_05 59:43

You can uh see us on contact us, I believe, or about us on our official website, uh contagiousfawn.com.

SPEAKER_08 59:50

And of course, we have the academy that was created. And do you want to talk about that? You never talk about the academy.

SPEAKER_04 59:54

It's your baby.

SPEAKER_08 59:55

No, it's our baby, and you can talk about it.

SPEAKER_04 59:58

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_08 59:59

You want some salsa with your teeth? No, talk about our academy. You talk about it. I'm very humble. I don't talk about that stuff. I put stuff out to help other people. That's why I do it. I don't talk about it.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:11

Datasmall.com, there's a tab that says Academy. Click on it, go through the classes. Have that horse. There you go.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:20

Well about it. You just overexerted yourself. I'm tired. You can't be tired. Do you know why you're tired? Because you sleep too much. And if you sleep too much, Alexa, if you sleep too much, don't beat that woman at all.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:31

Don't night, y'all. Smile.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:35

Alexa, if you sleep too much, don't you get too tired during the day.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:39

Michael and Victoria.com. If you're sleeping too much and still feeling tired during the day, you might have a vitamin D deficiency.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:49

Huh.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:50

So it's normal.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:52

Or out. My God.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:54

Take us out.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:55

I just did.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:56

That's not taking us out. This isn't one of your X's that you're just taking out to take it out and take it in, put it in. What?

SPEAKER_06 1:01:04

Good night, y'all. Good God, Roman.