Translation: NRSVue
3 Questions:
What word, phrase or image strikes you in this text?
Toward what is God calling you in this text?
What does it mean to proclaim the Lord’s death?
Additional texts:
Exodus 12:1-4 [5-10] 11-14
Psalm 116:1-2, 12-19
John 13:1-17, 31b-35
Translation: NRSVue
3 Questions:
What word, phrase or image strikes you in this text?
Toward what is God calling you in this text?
What does it mean to proclaim the Lord’s death?
Additional texts:
Exodus 12:1-4 [5-10] 11-14
Psalm 116:1-2, 12-19
John 13:1-17, 31b-35
00:01.92
Kevin Shock
It's a bonus episode good. You did that good I was thinking about doing that if it didn't have enough confidence that I could pull it off Well Um, yeah, it's a bonus episode friends ah time to tend.
00:04.91
nathanpile
Bonus bonus bonus bonus.
00:17.24
Kevin Shock
And we are looking ahead to holy week coming up and so this is a text that will be appointed in our tradition for worship services on Maundy Thursday or holy Thursday um, a couple of things about that day very quickly. We. It's the day that we hear the new command from jesus ah to love one another and um, it's not really a new command. But that's ah, but that's how he terms it at least in the gospel according to John and um. For a lot of us. This is also the time in our tradition. This is also the time when we ah celebrate communion recognize the importance of communion partially because we hear the text about the passover of the lord and we read the text from. John's Gospel where jesus washes feet ah around the the last supper so in some of our churches. This would be communions practiced footwashing in some places sometimes individual. Confession and absolution forgiveness of sins. There's all kinds of things that happen around this day in the middle of holy week. So we are going to look particularly today at the passage from first corinthians the eleventh chapter verses 23 through 26.
01:48.54
Kevin Shock
We're looking at the new revised standard version updated edition as always follow along with whatever version you have nearby or you can go on the biblegateway app or biblegateway.com to find that particular version and our 3 questions. For this episode. What word phrase or image strikes you in this text toward what is god calling you in this text and what does it mean to proclaim the Lord's death that will make sense when we read the text itself.
02:20.36
nathanpile
A disclaimer about who we are. We are men married to women in financially stable households white in our late 40 s college and seminary educated we work in the lutheran church and were born and raised in Western Pennsylvania all of this affects how we read scripture and discuss it. But none of this makes us better able to read and discuss scripture than anyone else. We believe that the wisdom of scripture is the whole community's compiled interpretation for life with god and one another so we want to know what you hear and think. From your life experience the reading from first corinthians the eleventh chapter verses 23 through 26 for I received from the lord. What I also handed on to you that the lord jesus on the night when he was betrayed took a loaf of bread and when he had given thanks he broke it and said this is my body that is for you. Do this in remembrance for me do this in remembrance of me in the same way. He took the cup also after supper saying. This cup is the new covenant in my blood do this as often as you drink it in remembrance of me for as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup you proclaim the lord's death until he comes.
03:51.69
nathanpile
If you're meeting with a group you can pause the podcast now and engage the questions on your own Kevin what word phrase or image strikes you in this text.
04:08.68
Kevin Shock
Um, new covenant. Um, yeah I I just for some reason that's what perked my ears up when I was listening to read it and um I don't know how much additional commentary. Have to give on it. Um, except that this is ah this is again a sign from god this time in Christ Jesus ah that the the promises to humankind are made sure ah the the covenant is unbreakable. and um and I guess there's there's something to be said with this is um, this is looking ahead to Jesus himself being broken broken open for the sake of the world and um, yeah, so yeah. There's just this is um this is a sure sign that god's promises are true in my mind and um and it is a new covenant as as Paul ah relates. Um, in the words of Jesus. Ah, but also it's a covenant that's reflective of all of the promises god has made and kept throughout the history of relationship with human beings.
05:31.46
nathanpile
Yeah, and I appreciate that last statement in that idea because we don't really use the word covenant a whole lot in 2024 um unless you're in the church. Um.
05:37.39
Kevin Shock
Um, yeah, no, we don't yeah or I think I think the one secular place. Well it's not and it's not even really secular people talk about the covenant of marriage I think.
05:52.98
nathanpile
Yes, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, and so that that idea of you as you were explaining it used the word promise which is oftentimes one of the words that I will use when talking about a covenant. Um.
05:54.90
Kevin Shock
Sometimes But yeah, but it's not widely known yeah or used.
06:08.55
Kevin Shock
Um.
06:08.62
nathanpile
Is that there's that idea of promise. Um, that is a part of of that word. There's a ah, a relationship that is being promised. Um in Covenant. So.
06:18.22
Kevin Shock
Yeah, there you go? Yeah I Guess um when I think about I'm glad and there you use that word relationship a covenant I think of as a relational contract or another way to say it might be a nontransactional contract. Contracts This is language. We sometimes talk about in the church in our tradition of the church at least um, contracts are kind of like if then you know if I perform this work then you must pay me. Um and and that's not how we see God operating you know, not in the sense of if if.
06:46.45
nathanpile
Yeah.
06:55.18
Kevin Shock
If you do all the right things if you uphold the law then I will be your god that's not what we believe to be true. We talk about um the language of relationship being because therefore language because I am your god therefore you are called to love 1 another? Um It's always the. The promises that god gives are not dependent on our action or inaction. Um, but our action or inaction now. Let's just say action is is influenced. Um. And driven by the relationship that god has formed with us so a covenant is like a contract but it's a promise to be in relationship and not a you know if you do this then I'll do this.
07:47.36
nathanpile
Ah, and my 2 words for my response um would be for you. Um, which as I as I as I was reading kind of flubbed me up in the midst of my reading even um so.
07:47.94
Kevin Shock
Um, so yes, please. Um.
08:04.68
nathanpile
Um, and so that idea of again, it goes back to relationship. Um, but that it's for you. It's it's it's ah it's you know Jesus Jesus here now through Paul telling. Telling us that this gift of of bread and wine of body and blood are for you. Um, and so brings home that same personal relational language for us. Um. That though god is worried about all of creation and that it and if we go back to the very beginning of genesis where god says all of it is very good. Um, and that in that very those that very first chapter of the book of genesis. Um, that.
09:02.40
nathanpile
In the midst of worrying about that big full Picture God is also worried about the individual the one for you and so this gift of body and blood is for me. Though I don't usually have any problems thinking about myself first as a human being Um, but yeah, Nope Nope most of us don't So um, ah, that's that sinful side of us. But but got it.
09:25.64
Kevin Shock
Now Yeah, don't you have any problems with that. Ah yeah.
09:37.79
nathanpile
Again, The the language I think is ah is still important here of of God recognizing and saying I see you this gift is for you? Um, you know and and so that's a powerful thing for me as a pastor now when I when I serve communion I like to look people in the eye.
09:46.11
Kevin Shock
Yeah.
09:56.91
Kevin Shock
A length.
09:57.67
nathanpile
Um, so I hold the bread up between us. It's very intent for me. It's very intentional because ah of all of this has meaning for me. Um that we're reading here today and so for me something that I put up between the 2 of us so that my eyes and their eyes see the bread between us.
10:14.36
nathanpile
And and say this is the body of Christ given for you and then as I say for you, it goes into their hand. Um, and but again, ah there's something for us and for me eye contact is critical as as a human being that's when I make eye contact with another human being.
10:15.86
Kevin Shock
In here. A.
10:32.53
nathanpile
It connects me it connects us and so um, though I am a part of the body of Christ I am not the body of Christ but I am a part of the body of Christ and I am serving another member of the body of Christ but I want them to know that that they that this gift is for them.
10:50.74
nathanpile
Um, and so the way that I we'd most likely do that as human beings is that we make eye contact with one another. Um and so like like I wave the bread around till I get them to look at me I don't say it verbally to them that that's what I'm doing but I tried do a little bit of hey look up here.
11:09.36
Kevin Shock
Yeah, yeah.
11:09.77
nathanpile
Up here. Um, you know, kind of a thing I don't do it like I'm not obnoxious about it I Just if I can get them to look at me then I get him to look at me. Um, but again I think it's a part of that. It's a part of that relationship God is seeking for us to experience in the midst of this gift. This isn't a.
11:15.24
Kevin Shock
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:29.64
nathanpile
This isn't a drive-th through meal This isn't It's on a hurry up and let me get get what I need you know? um, it's a it is It is doesn't matter if you you know some people say oh I Just love kneeling at the altar. Okay, some people say oh I prefer to do it as intinction and we just kind of move through more quickly. That's okay, too. But the personal, the personal relationship piece excuse me the personal relationship piece person to person is really important to see how can we? How can we grasp onto that. Um and and hold that for each other. Um, that that this is this is a gift from the son of God the gift a gift from God and a gift to to each individual and how can we help see feel experience that connection in whatever that moment looks like. In the sharing of bread and Wine. So.
12:32.10
Kevin Shock
Yeah, and I think um excuse me I don't I don't have a I have a pretty similar practice to how you do it? Um, when I'm distributing communion as well. It's the same kind of thing I hold the hold the bread or the wayr up in front of people and um. And then press it into their hand. Um, not not just place it but press it and and I think sometimes you know sometimes people come up I was at a congregation this past Sunday where um, everyone comes up and does kneel around the altar which is not um in a lot of congregations I've been in. Ah, that hasn't been for the majority of my life that hasn't been the regular practice. Um, well now now that I think about it for the recent history of my life that has been the regular practice. Um, well or it's been the regular practice but I've been on the receiving end of it. Um, and not the giving end of it. So. You know sometimes ah people at the altar rail um have their heads. You know, bowed down or something so you don't always get that eye contact. But then if you're if you're pressing it into their hand then then there's that Mark of relationship to that they they know that this is this is from it's from god but it's a meal that's shared between human beings. Um, and the other thing I think about is that that idea of raising up the body. The the the bread body of Christ. Um I like the.
14:06.27
Kevin Shock
I I like doing that in part because that in my mind it sends a message or maybe it just reminds me and that's and that's enough that our relationship with one another is defined by the presence of Christ between us. Um, it's his you know like I said back at the beginning of this episode.
14:21.62
nathanpile
No no.
14:25.50
Kevin Shock
It's it's his command that we love one another and um and that is um, you know he says in the gospel of John ah this this is how this is how people will know that you're my disciples that you're my followers by the love that you have for 1 another and um. And so I think it it says a lot to me to my own personal faith that um that I recognize when I'm looking at somebody else I see that body of Christ between us. Um, because that body of Christ is what defines who that person is. To me and for me, um, it also makes it a lot harder to um, be angry or or petty with someone when you're when you're when you have to consider that you're looking at them through the lens of Jesus. Yeah.
15:12.58
nathanpile
Now. Yeah, yeah I Love that image that you just shared of that and and brought me back to a cross that I Love which is that you can the middle of the cross is is empty like the wood structure of the crosses on the outside.
15:31.75
Kevin Shock
Me.
15:34.82
nathanpile
You can see through the middle of the cross and so you can see each other through the cross of Christ you know that that idea like that's a little bit harder to do through a piece of bread. But it's the same idea which I love that. That's a part of who we are as god's people and and.
15:46.88
Kevin Shock
Yeah, yeah.
15:53.87
nathanpile
And as lutheran christians as we live into that piece of being able to see the other through Christ we have that relationship because of Christ I think it's powerful.
16:08.59
Kevin Shock
Yeah, yeah, um, let's look at it a second time from first corinthians eleven beginning with verse 23 for I received from the lord what I also handed on to you.
16:14.69
nathanpile
Let's do it.
16:24.90
Kevin Shock
the lord jesus on the night when he was betrayed took a loaf of bread and when he had given thanks he broke it and said this is my body that is for you. Do this in remembrance of me in the same way. He took the cup also after supper saying this cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this as often as you drink it in remembrance of me for as often as you eat the spread and drink the cup you proclaim the lord's death until he comes Nathan toward what is god calling you in this text.
16:58.74
nathanpile
Um, originally I I was um I had 1 answer now I have two so um, but I think they they go together. Um, and so.
17:06.64
Kevin Shock
Okay.
17:16.14
nathanpile
I think my what I'll I'm going to reverse the orders so in which they came to me so they came to me in the in the different way than what I'm going to share him back. But so the first one is that we are to remember who Jesus is and Jesus' ' ways. Um but in that remembering we're also to hand hand it off to others and so this idea so I was obviously if you think about the text that you just read that idea I was I was first kind of caught by that image of handing it off and and I do think that there.
17:38.17
Kevin Shock
Mean.
17:50.59
nathanpile
They're they're attached to each other Maybe that's because I'm a lutheran christian and that's what I've been taught my whole life. Um, that in the remembering there is also the handing off there is the sharing of of what we have and and though they are 2 different things I think for the. Ah, not just my my seminary educated life but my life before that they were all always intertwined one with the other because of the way we live this out as lutheran christians or at least the way I've experienced it lived out as lutheran christian that as we remember we are. We are also passing it on to the next whether that be the next generation or the next neighbor. Whatever that looks like that there's ah, there's a part of as we as we live into this idea of remembering Jesus in Jesus' ' ways um, that we are also then passing it on and so it goes back to you know there's as again as lutheran christians and our theology we have the the the idea of and we are saint and sinner. Um, we are. We are both at the same time and so this idea of remembering and sharing gets connected with that same and that they happen together because in my remembering you know it.
19:25.33
nathanpile
It inspires me to to share it to to connect to again because this is a personal thing. It's a relational thing not just a personal thing. It's a relational thing. Um, we do the both. So.
19:43.88
nathanpile
So that's what I feel called if I feel called to remember and to share it to hand it on.
19:52.17
Kevin Shock
Yeah, good. Thanks for the reminder I Just think of um salvation eternal life. The gifts of God I I always think about those things as not. Um.
20:07.27
Kevin Shock
Not something that stops with any individual person If you you know if I can't think I can't think of any pithy phrases to um I know that there are like you know slogans or maxims that are about you know you can't you know. Things only grow if you give them away or something like that. Um, but that's how if if if eternal life if salvation is something that you think is just for you and you try to hang onto it for Yourself. You're you're going to lose it. That's not.. It's not going to.. It's not going to work for you anymore, but it's something that.
20:27.17
nathanpile
And.
20:45.34
Kevin Shock
Grows bigger the more that you share it. Um, anyway, yeah I I think I'm being called in the simplicity of this reading or the simplicity of my thinking um to ah to celebrate. The communion meal. Um and it as as pastors in our tradition we are called in our ordination services and I can't remember exactly how it's said, but we are called to um. Study scripture and um practice the sacraments regularly and that doesn't mean preside at the sacraments regularly. Although it does mean that but it also means receive the sacrament regularly and um. And sometimes I think it's easy to forget when you're getting a little wafer and a little cup of wine or a little sip of wine that this is the this is a meal that gives us strength for living our life in Christ Jesus um, it's it's more than just.
22:00.11
Kevin Shock
Not just bodily sustenance I mean if it were bodily sustenance. It would fail anyway because it's not enough. But um, it's yeah, it's wholly sustenance and um, there aren't you know I don't get I don't get so many opportunities where I'm just receiving it anymore. I mean I think that's true for a lot of pastors. But yeah I'm I'm also one of those people that I could receive communion every day and it wouldn't get old for me. So I I think that um.
22:32.12
nathanpile
No, do you? Why do you? why? Why? do you think? that's the case or why is the is it the case for you.
22:41.92
Kevin Shock
I think it because it is relational. It's it's relational. It's it's an opportunity to and when I say receive communion I can't I was just just earlier today came from a meeting with a congregation where we were um.
22:58.64
Kevin Shock
We were well we were talking about some communion logistics and such um because they're currently between pastors. But 1 thing I said is that you know the the meal is never removed from a group of people the assembly who's gathering together to celebrate it. Um, that's ah, that's an essential part of the meal. It's not just bread and wine. It's the people. Um and ah and so for me, it's it's the people and it's Jesus, but it's also the people that are serving the meal and the people that are receiving the meal. And so there's always there's always some kind of human interaction that takes place um in in the in the event of the sacrament and and I think that's why it doesn't get old for me or or you know I mean I I know I've heard um. Ah, different kind of piety people talking about you know? Well we don't want to celebrate it every week because we we don't want it to not be special anymore and it's just not how I feel about it I understand that people feel that way about it. Um, not me though it doesn't.
24:04.92
nathanpile
Sure.
24:10.17
Kevin Shock
Sacrament is something that I don't see as a waste of time or I don't think other people see it that way either. But but there's always time. It's one of those things communion is one of those things that calls me to slow down and pay attention to what God is doing. Maybe that's a good way to say it and. I Need as many opportunities in my life to do that as possible. Yeah to encounter the christ and to encounter his people. Yeah yep.
24:31.00
nathanpile
Yeah, yeah to slow down to to encounter the christ to and how the community. Yeah no.
24:44.85
nathanpile
Thanks! Thanks for adding that answering that additional additional question on this bonus episode today. Very nice. All right, let's ah yeah, bonus questions. Yeah, so we'll do it a third time all right.
24:52.62
Kevin Shock
Bonus questions. Yeah yep.
25:01.64
nathanpile
First corinthians the eleventh chapter for I received from the lord. What I also handed on to you that the lord jesus on the night when he was betrayed took a loaf of bread and when he had given thanks he broke it and said this is my body that is for you. Do this in remembrance of me in the same way. He took the cup also after supper saying this cup is the new covenant in my blood do this as often as you drink it in remembrance of me for as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup. You proclaim the lord's death until he comes well here comes that third question Kevin that you told everybody they could ruminate on earlier. What does it mean to proclaim the Lord's death just something about the the question asker or writer having to answer first I think that it's just poetic justice today.
26:08.85
Kevin Shock
Ah, that's funny. Yeah, because you could easily make the assumption that I only I only um, write questions that are easy for me to answer. This is not an easy question for me to answer.
26:16.88
nathanpile
Yeah I didn't think so but it's not easy for me to answer I'm just glad you have to answer it first.
26:23.70
Kevin Shock
Yeah, right, right? Well let's unpack it a little bit then I think I think um, this is one of those phrases that um, that scripture writers and in this instance Paul. Ah.
26:27.20
nathanpile
That's not let's unpack it.
26:39.69
Kevin Shock
Writes that I think is worthy of reflection. Um throughout one's life. How do you proclaim The Lord's death. Um I guess for me part of the answer at least is um.
26:50.51
nathanpile
Okay.
26:59.80
Kevin Shock
A proclamation of the Lord's death is us getting out of the way and letting god do what god does and I think that that's what happens in the communion meal. Um in the communion meal we see we see our god. Who is greater than all things and the author of all things um, giving in the person of Jesus giving himself over ah letting himself be broken for. The sake of giving us life and I think that um you know the the the remembering of that. Um and and not just not just ah, not just a not just ah, remembering in the sense of um. Like physical memory like you know like oh I remember that this happened but but um, recognizing that reality every time that we celebrate the meal together. Ah points to the.
28:12.82
Kevin Shock
Unfathomable love that Jesus expressed for humankind in in going to the cross or in in allowing himself to be put on the cross. Um, and I and so then I think anything that anything. That we do that extends from this meal that is in like manner an act of sacrificial self-sacrificial love proclaims the death of Jesus um, and. And and we also have to think of let me unpack death a little bit. Um, you know death is something that human beings generally um, are dismayed by try to avoid run away from ignore um here. And Jesus redefines death Jesus redefines death as an act of love and um.
29:17.76
Kevin Shock
And we could probably talk a little you know we could talk for days about how love is made evident in the um in the moments of and the moment surrounding a death but here Jesus makes. Death into the gateway to abundant life and um and so anything that we do including receiving the meal of his own self-giving act. Ah proclaims. The the goodness it sounds paradoxical to say it but the goodness of his death for humankind. So that's that's a that's a little bit of unpacking I guess just as I ramble along there. What about you? Nathan what? what does it mean to proclaim the Lord's death in your mind and your thoughts.
30:13.40
nathanpile
Um, well with your extensive um explanation you you kind of hit it. My one word was gonna be not 1 word, but my my piece of that is this meal um puts in front of us again. God's willingness to be vulnerable. To the ways of this world which are about power and control and and wealth and me first sinful pieces. Our god is willing to be vulnerable. To all of that. Um to allow it to in in from from the way the world looks at things to say that the the world has won and yet god has ah you know has. Sent Jesus to come and teach the world about this more vulnerable way about being in relationship together and so god is ah is even as broken and sinful as we are. Um, as lost as we can be god's god says you know your ways are not my ways I'm I'm not going to your violence isn't going to change the way I am in this world. Um I i.
31:37.53
Kevin Shock
Cool. Wow.
31:41.76
nathanpile
Seek those I seek those who are on the margins I seek those who are the last the least the lost the lonely the lame um being about power. Isn't what I'm about yes I'm I am the creator of the of the of the cosmos but I am I am here in this in in this person of Jesus in this meal that is humble and basic. Um, so that I can be with you and so that piece of vulnerability to me I think is and and I use the board vulnerability. There's a couple of other pieces beyond that I've used lots of words there to kind of describe what I think I believe happens in this meal. Um, but in this proclamation of of death in this um, in this idea of saying um the lord is dead. You know that that when we eat this meal. We're saying god. God was willing to die and when we eat this meal. We remember that um and and all of the things you were saying earlier about death is true like we try to push it off. We try to stay. You know you know.
33:09.30
Kevin Shock
Um, yeah.
33:17.13
Kevin Shock
Ah.
33:18.81
nathanpile
Not not many of us like the idea of going into hospital rooms or nursing homes because again we see that vulnerability of of the one that we love in that state. Um, and it makes us feel helpless and hear.
33:28.96
Kevin Shock
Right.
33:34.50
nathanpile
God says I will live in the state that you live in I will live with that vulnerability and I invite you to remember it every time you eat this meal.
33:38.87
Kevin Shock
Yeah.
33:46.34
Kevin Shock
Um, yeah, um, well first of all I just want to say I I can't remember exactly what you said because I was trying to listen into everything that you said but boy that that's a quote for the age is the um.
34:01.46
Kevin Shock
God says your violence will not change the way that I I can't remember exactly what you said but interact with the world or act in the world. Um, yeah, that's like I said that's a quote for the ages I think um, it's important for us to hear that.
34:05.42
nathanpile
No no.
34:17.86
Kevin Shock
And it is. It's part of Jesus's redefinition of death is that this is you know this? This act is not an act of Jesus saving himself. This is not an act of god um, you know, striking down the enemies of Jesus before they can get to him. Ah, this is about Jesus giving himself up for even for the people who are putting him to death. Um the the the first yes, the perceived enemies the ones that we would call enemies. Yes Jesus still exhibits love for them. Um.
34:41.39
nathanpile
No yeah, even for the enemies. What would be his end enemies. Yeah yeah, no.
34:55.30
Kevin Shock
Well now I'm not going to be ah, there were like 3 things I was ruminating on um the other one is that the um, just this conversation reminds me of um, one of my liturgy professors in seminary Dirk Lang who now teaches at Luther seminary in. Um. st. paul minnesota is that where luther is um, anyway, um, we talked in a class that I had with him ah a lot about the the the idea of iteration. Um, you know we hear like reiteration like it's ah it's it's a it's a repeating action. Um and yet ah sacraments in the church are are iterative in the sense that they it's. Well, it's kind of like that. It's like that new covenant. Um that I talked about back in the beginning of this episode that it's ah it's a repeating of something that happened in the past, but it's not simply so that we remember it. It's so that it happens new for us again every time we do it and so this is not just.
36:10.54
Kevin Shock
This is not just us remembering that Jesus was willing to die for us this is Jesus expressing his willingness to die for us over and over and over again each and every time we receive the the sacrament or or the communion is celebrated. This is Jesus again saying I'm willing to give my life for you and.
36:35.30
nathanpile
Now well when that and that in itself is so powerful that idea of Jesus saying it over and over again to us of saying. Um, yeah, this is how much I love you again. Just just you kind of sharing that again.
36:39.74
Kevin Shock
Any.
36:45.61
Kevin Shock
Yeah, yeah.
36:51.11
nathanpile
Kind of as it washed over me was like oh boy, what you know who doesn't need to hear that over and over again.
36:58.90
Kevin Shock
Yeah, yeah, right on on a daily basis really? um and and I think that's you're worth it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think that's.
37:02.64
nathanpile
Yeah, you're worth it. Ge god saying over and over again, you're worth it Nathan you're worth it. Kevin you're worth it. Um, you know wow.
37:14.11
Kevin Shock
I think that's why I think that's part of the reason why Jesus instituted this supper is that it's um, it. It's a gift that never runs out. It's it's a it's a gift that is new every time we receive it and. And never will there be a point in human history where Jesus will say okay, we've we've run out of supper reserves and I'm not interested in saying this to you people anymore. We're never going to hit that point. For the rest of human history jesus will say I did this for you I'm willing to do this for you? Yeah yeah, so those were the 2 big things I was talking about thinking about there was 1 other thing that I was thinking about that. It has long since left less.
37:50.40
nathanpile
Now.
38:04.53
Kevin Shock
Long since left my brain So That's that's okay, it may or may not come back. And.
38:18.23
nathanpile
All right? Well there are some ah additional readings. Additional text. Kevin would you like to share those.
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Kevin Shock
Yeah, I would I yeah I guess I actually talked about a couple of them already. Um for this? Um, holy Thursday Maundy Maundy Thursday ah, some additional texts related to this one from exodus chapter 12 versus 1 through 14 ah, which is the account of the passover of the lord in the nation of Egypt just before the people are um, are released and go through the sea of Reeds away from the from pharaoh and the army. Um. Psalm 161 verses 1 and 2 and then 12 through 19 which references or prefigures I guess the the the institution of the Lord's supper it says there I will lift the cup of salvation and call on the name of the lord. It's a it's a. Um, something that's taken from um from Hebrew from jewish liturgical work and then is um I don't want to I guess reinterpreted I don't know if that's the right way to say but but it's thought of in a new way after the person of Jesus um. Which is why we read this psalm but but again like I said earlier Nathan like we've said various times in this podcast. Um, this new covenant is simply an an echoing of the covenant that has existed from the beginning of time of love and and and salvation and life abundant.
39:56.95
Kevin Shock
And then um from John 13 versus 1 through 17 and then 31 b through 35? Um, or you could just read John thirteen one through 35 and get the same thing. Ah, the service of Christ. Foot washing and the meal so during this holy week. Um, or as you're depending on when you're listening to this looking ahead to holy week. Um, we hope that you have some time to reflect on ah the meaning of what god has given us in this world. Um. To remember and um, as as one of my as I remember 1 of my colleagues Miriam Schmidt saying in that same class that I was just talking about ah to be remembered that is rebuilt again as the body of Christ the members of the body of Christ. Um, yeah, we hope that you have some opportunity to reflect on that and ah and how god interacts with you and how and how you and um, what you do proclaims the lord's death um in a in a life-giving way. So.
41:10.63
Kevin Shock
Um, blessings to you all on your reflections. Thank you Nathan for your reflections and we hope to tend our faith with you again soon. Grace to you.
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nathanpile
And peace.