St John the Beloved
Sermon and teaching audio from St John Church in Cincinnati Ohio.
St John the Beloved
Faith in the Heat of the Moment
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A furnace roars, a crowd bows, and three quiet men stay standing. We step into Daniel 3 to explore how pressure exposes the difference between the appearance of faith and the reality of it—and why the strongest convictions often speak in a whisper rather than a shout. Our focus lands on a simple but weighty framework: authentic faith is quiet, principled, and meek.
We talk about what it means to live a quiet life that still can’t stay hidden. You won’t find protests or posturing from Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego—only a calm refusal to worship what isn’t God. That quiet “opt out” draws scrutiny and jealousy, and we connect that dynamic to modern life: school choices, work integrity, dating boundaries, and the small, daily refusals that keep allegiance clear. Quiet doesn’t mean passive; it means steady, simple, and watchful.
From there we contrast principled conviction with spiritual pragmatism. When the music starts, it’s too late to write your lines. We show how early decisions—about worship, sexual integrity, truth-telling, and Sabbath priorities—hold when fear hits. The companions’ resolve echoes the early church’s refusal to burn incense to Caesar: they had already settled whom they served. Then we move to the heart of meekness: God is able to deliver, and even if he does not, we will still trust him. That clause reshapes prayer, courage, and patience. We draw out biblical echoes—from Noah to Abraham to Esther and Peter—where obedience walked into the unknown without demanding a map.
This conversation offers practical guidance for anyone feeling cultural heat: how to avoid performative faith, how to pre-decide your non-negotiables, and how to entrust outcomes to the God who judges justly. Expect clear takeaways, honest self-examination, and a firmer grip on a faith that can withstand the pressure test. If this helped you think and stand a little straighter, subscribe, share the episode with a friend, and leave a review so others can find it too.
Reading From Daniel 3
SPEAKER_00Let us stand for the reading of God's word this morning. From Daniel chapter three, picking up in verse eight, the word of God reads this way. Therefore at that time certain Chaldeans came forward and maliciously accused the Jews. They declared to King Nebuchadnezzar, O king, live forever. You, O king, have made a decree that every man who hears the sound of the horn, pipe, leer, trigon, harp, bagpipe, and every kind of music, shall fall down and worship the golden image. And whoever does not fall down and worship shall be cast into a burning fiery furnace. There are certain Jews whom you have appointed over the affairs of the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. These men, O king, pay no attention to you. They do not serve your gods or worship the golden image that you have set up. Then Nebuchadnezzar, in furious rage, commanded that Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego be brought. So they brought these men before the king. Nebuchadnezzar answered and said to them, Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, that you do not serve my gods or worship the golden image that I have set up? Now, if you are ready, when you hear the sound of the horn, pipe, leer, trigon, harp, bagpipe, and every kind of music, to fall down and worship the image that I have made, well and good. But if you do not worship, you shall immediately be cast into a burning fiery furnace, and who is the God who will deliver you out of my hands? Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we have no need to answer you in this matter. If this be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of your hand, O king. But if not, be it known to you, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the golden image that you have set up. This is God's word. Thanks be to God. You may be seated, and may God bless this reading and preaching of his word. Do you remember building bridges out of balsa wood in shop class in high school? I don't know if they still do that in high school, but that's when uh when I was a lad, we did that, and we were learning basic principles of engineering, and the assignment was fairly simple. It was to design and to build a bridge structure out of a material that was very light and very fragile, but when assembled in a proper engineered style, could be strong, and then those bridges would be pressure tested, where weight would be added little by little, textbooks, sometimes even cinder blocks, if it was strong enough. But weight would be added little by little until the structure finally gave way, and the there was a competition as to whose structure could support the most weight. And the funny thing is that at first, before any of the testing occurs, all of the bridges look like bridges. Most all of them have a very thoughtful design. Lots of care and thought is put into it. Some of them even look very sturdy and very trustworthy. But what matters most is not how they appear, but what matters most is the pressure test and how they perform under pressure. Because it is only under pressure that we discover which bridges or which structures are truly sound and which other ones only appear to be. It was an important lesson learned without anyone actually getting hurt or any bridges actually collapsing. They make you do this before they let you be an engineer and go out and actually build a bridge. Pressure reveals the difference between what is real and what only looks real, or what is sturdy and reliable and strong, and what only looks sturdy, reliable, and strong. Last week we looked at Nebuchadnezzar's image that he set up in the burning fiery furnace. And this week we see how the people of God respond when the pressure becomes very real and personal. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego are brought to the edge of the fire, and their faith, their trust in the Lord, is pressure tested. And what we discover is that their faith is real. And Daniel 3 teaches us this is that pressure reveals the difference between the appearance of faith and the reality of faith. Or to put it another way, under pressure, authentic faith is proven and is purified. So what do we learn about real faith under pressure? There's at least three things in this story that are worth drawing out. Authentic faith is quiet, authentic faith is principled, and authentic faith is meek. Quiet, principled, and meek. So first, authentic faith is quiet. Authentic faith is quiet, but cannot be hidden. How will God's people in Babylon respond to Nebuchadnezzar's command to worship the image? The first thing that we see is that they have the courage to quietly opt out. They do not bow when the music plays, and it's possible that they're not even at the ceremony. Daniel is not mentioned in this passage at all, and uh, because of some of the details in the story, it's possible that they're not even present. And this is not performative on their end. Uh it's just a quiet act of faithfulness to God. They're not trying to be martyrs, they're not trying to make a spectacle, they're just trying to be faithful. They don't, uh, in response to Nebuchadnezzar's image and his uh his ceremony, they don't stage a strike or a protest. They have no power to do so anyway. They don't register a complaint, they don't schedule an alternative worship service to be broadcast at the same time. Um, they don't collect signatures on a petition. Instead, they seek to fly under the radar and quietly opt out. They're not, they are not flaunting their refusal to obey Nebuchadnezzar, but they are quietly disobeying him nonetheless. And we will see this quiet disobedience again later in Daniel. And just like the story of Daniel in the lion's den, their faithfulness does not go unnoticed by their adversaries. In fact, the only reason that their absence is noted is that they are being watched closely by those who wish their downfall. If you look at verses eight and twelve, verse eight says, Therefore at that time certain Chaldeans came forward and maliciously accused the Jews. And then in verse 12 it says, it says what they said to the king, There are certain Jews whom you have appointed over the affairs of the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. These men, O king, pay no attention to you. They do not serve your gods or worship the golden image that you have set up. Obviously, they are being watched closely, and it's not because their faith is loud and obnoxious, but it's because their faith is different. It makes them different. And the reason primarily is jealousy. These men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, have been given influence in Babylon. They have been given high positions in Babylon, and their peers, who are now accusing them, want them to be brought down. So this teaches us something important. It teaches us that authentic faith does not seek attention, but it cannot be hidden. It does not seek attention, but it at the same time, it cannot be hidden. I became a Christian in high school when I was 16 or 17 from a non-Christian background, and I had a friend named Terry who watched me very closely. He was a mid-2000s Goth kid. Umed a copy of the Satanic Bible, though I'm I'm not sure that he ever read it, but he did own it. He called himself an atheist. Uh he often poked fun at my new Christian faith as I became a Christian. Um years later, we met up for lunch one day when we were both about to graduate college, and I was engaged to be married to Julie, and uh he asked me a direct question, and there was a few of us at lunch, it wasn't just me and Terry, so he was kind of trying to publicly expose me. But he said, So, Billy, now that you're going to be getting married, you'll be consummating this relationship for the first time. Is that right? And he asked me this question because he suspected that deep down that there was no real difference between he and I, and that my alleged faith did not actually have any real impact on my decision making or on my life. And perhaps deeper down there was even a fear, maybe a fear that my faith was real, and maybe even that God was real. And I answered him and I said, Yes, that's right, Terry, for the first time. And he couldn't believe it, but it did lead to a good conversation. And what do you think happened to Terry? Well, years later, he switched sides. Not because of me, but uh today, as far as I understand, he is a devout Catholic. And I have experienced that most of the time that uh people who are the most curious and most antagonistic toward Christian faith are often the ones who are probably going to switch sides. Um, just in a just give them a little bit of time. Authentic faith does not seek to draw attention to itself. It's not trying to make it a spectacle, it seeks to live quietly, but it cannot be hidden. It cannot be hidden because when you take the name of Jesus upon yourself, people will pay attention. People will start paying attention. Some because they want to be vindicated in their own rebellion against God, and so they are they're paying attention, they are looking for inconsistencies. They're looking for instances where they can say, I know that all of this stuff is BS, I know that it's not real. They're looking for inconsistencies. Others, because they secretly hope that there is a God worth trusting, and they are looking for something authentic. The New Testament often teaches that we should aspire to live quiet lives. This is a theme in 1 Thessalonians. Paul writes in 1 Thessalonians 4, he says, But we urge you, brothers, to aspire to live quietly and to mind your own affairs and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one. These are some amazing words that we do not often associate with being a Christian. Live quietly, mind your own business, work with your hands, be dependent on no one. That's the goal. There's a men's conference coming to Cincinnati this summer that is riffing off of a verse in 1 Corinthians, and they have taken this verse and made their conference around it. It actually looks like a great conference, and there may be a number of men from our church that attend, but the conference is called Act Like Men, based off of a verse in 1 Corinthians. But could you imagine a Christian conference that's called Mind Your Own Business, based off of 1 Thessalonians? It's equally as biblical. We just don't think about it as often. Our lives ought to be simple and quiet, but our faith cannot remain hidden. And the reason is because our faith inevitably makes us strange. There are things that we must opt out of. There are things that we do not participate in. We do not perfectly blend in with our surroundings. There must be a certain holiness about us because of the Lord whom we serve. As an example, just think about education. Both Julie and I are products of public schools. I don't have any problem with public schools. We don't use them for our children. We have opted out because there's a lot that happens in those environments that we don't want our kids to be exposed to, especially in our neighborhood. But it's not at all wrong for Christians to utilize public schools and to participate in them. We have families in our own church who work in these schools and who use these schools, and they can vary greatly depending upon the district. But what does Paul say in 1 Thessalonians? He says, be dependent on no one, which is an interesting lesson. We should not build our lives in such a way that we become dependent upon them so that we can never opt out of them, even if they should become very bad for our families in certain situations. That's just one example. Any authentically Christian faith will be two things at once. It will not seek to draw attention to itself, it seeks to be quiet, it aspires to live quietly, but at the same time, it is not able to be hidden. So for you, where do you need to revisit this? Are you one of those people who are more inclined to draw attention to yourself and to be performative in your faith? Are you trying to be a martyr? Don't. Seek to live quietly. Aspire to live quietly. Or are you one of those people who are maybe a bit nervous about what other people think about you and you are more inclined to hide your faith by going with the flow and compromising and blending in? We can't do that either. There are things that we have to opt out of. There are ways that we have to be different. We have to be weird. So this is a balance that we have to strike as Christians. Quiet faith does not flaunt itself, but neither does it fold under pressure. That's point one. Point two, authentic faith is principled. Authentic faith is principled, not pragmatic. Last week we saw how Nebuchadnezzar's piety is pragmatic. He cares more about what works than about what's true. But authentic saving faith is the opposite. It cares primarily about what is true, even if that truth might put us in an inconvenient place, for example, a burning fiery furnace. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego are principled. When it comes to the image, verse 18, we read, they say, We will not serve your gods or worship the golden image that you have set up. It would be so easy for them to not be principled in this instance. They don't have to convert to paganism. They don't have to abandon the worship of Yahweh. They just have to, for this moment, for this ceremony, in this instance, make a little gesture, make a little bow. And couldn't they do that and keep the peace and save their lives? Couldn't they just feign obedience and make the bow even though they didn't mean it? Isn't it more important, after all, that they stay alive and that they stay in these positions of influence so that they can continue to do good for God's people and they can continue to be influential? Is this really such a big deal? All of these are very pragmatic questions. These are questions that a pragmatist would ask. And they are never seriously entertained by Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego because these men are principled. They don't ask these questions. They will never bow to any image. Why? Because the first and second commandments are clear that only Yahweh is worthy of our worship and that we may bow to no other gods but him. Many first and second century Christians lost their lives because they were equally principled. The imperial demand for them was simple, that they would participate in these public ceremonies, that they would offer a pinch of incense to Caesar, which everybody did, even though nobody really meant it. It was just something that everybody did, and that they would parrot the simple slogan, Caesar is Lord. Just a simple, silly thing that they're expected to do. The pragmatic thing to do would just be to do it, just be to feign obedience, to go with the flow, to not die on this hill or in this furnace. But they were principled, the first and second century Christians, and many paid with their lives. When Julie and I were dating, we wanted to remain chaste, I'll use that word, we wanted to remain chaste. So I devised a principle, and my principle was that for as long until we are married, that we would never French kiss. As silly as that sounds. It's not that French kissing your girlfriend is necessarily sinful, but I knew that if we never did this, that we would certainly never do anything else that might get us in trouble. And because I stuck to my guns on that principle, uh, this is an issue that thankfully that we never struggled with in our dating relationship, and that has paid huge dividends in our married life as well. So if you're not yet married, if you're dating, um, it pays huge dividends to be principled in your dating relationship. Authentic faith is principled, and to be principled in any instance means to draw lines and to draw boundaries that are simply non-negotiable, and to stick to those boundaries even when they look silly, or even when they put us in an inconvenient position like a burning fiery furnace, because only our principles will keep us near the Lord when we are truly in danger, so it is important that they are immovable. Principles are simple when we're not in the heat of the moment. But Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego are literally in the heat of the moment, and it's their principles that they adopted in safety that continue to guide them and to keep them safe and keep them faithful in danger. When confronted with inconvenience, danger, and the gray messiness of life, a pragmatic faith will always ask, What can I get away with here? What can I get away with in this instance? Can I get away with doing this little little bow? Can I get away with walking this close to the line without crossing it? How far can I go? What can I get away with? That's a pragmatic faith. But a principled faith is different. A principled faith is not in the heat of the moment. We soberly determine what God says and what it is that we would resolve to do, that we want to believe and do what God says. And then, as we go into the gray messiness and unpredictability of life, it is our principles that guide us and keep us faithful. Our church has a principle. It's kind of a silly principle, but we have a principle that we will meet for worship every Sunday, even if it's just three of us. A few weeks ago we had a massive snowstorm, and I did not expect anyone to be here. But we're still not going to cancel church. We didn't cancel church, even though everyone else did, and that's fine. You know, I'm not trying to criticize other churches. And we had about three families show up and we worshiped. Why? Why put all of that effort? Why waste a sermon on three people or on three families? It wasn't a waste. I'm that's I'm thinking, I'm speaking as a pragmatist. Why put all that effort into a gathering that will be lightly attended? It's because the principle is important, because if we cancel church for a snowstorm, what else might might we be willing to cancel for? What if we just never cancel ever? Then we don't even have to worry about all the strange things that that might put other people into uh turmoil. So an authentic faith is a principled faith. And then finally, authentic faith is meek. Authentic faith trusts God without demanding outcomes and meekly accepts consequences that come from civil disobedience. Nebuchadnezzar, in anger, calls the three companions to examine them, and he gives them one last chance, to bow or to face the furnace. And I see he seems convinced that under the imminent threat of violence that they will certainly comply, and he even puts a nice little bow on it in verse 15: Who is the God who will deliver you out of my hands? It's like that that might even that might have even solidified their resolve, that that uh that statement right there. The companions don't answer that question. In verse 16, they say, O Nebuchadnezzar, we have no need to answer you in this matter. God Himself will answer Nebuchadnezzar's question. They will not worship Nebuchadnezzar's gods, no matter what the consequences are, and they do not resist the consequences. As Jesus taught us, he says, Do not resist the one who is evil. As we civilly disobey and face consequences, we are not to resist. Jesus says, Do not resist the one who is evil. And this is a wonderful picture of meekness. Meekness does not yield in the face of evil, it is not weak, it does not allow itself. To be pushed over, but it also does not resist evil. It obeys God and trusts him with the outcome. And speaking of outcomes, they don't know what the outcome will be, nor do they demand or expect a certain outcome. In verses 17 and 18 they say, If this be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of your hand, O King. But if not, be it known to you, O King, that we will not serve your gods or worship the golden image that you have set up. I don't love the way that the ESV has translated this. I think a better idea of what they're saying, which I think is captured by the NIV, is this Our God, whom we serve, is able to deliver us, and he will deliver us, but even if he doesn't, is I think it's really what they're saying there, but even if he doesn't. And we learn so much about faith and so much about prayer from those famous words. Our God is able to deliver, but even if he doesn't, we will still trust him. They're absolutely confident about God's ability. That's not in question. They know that he is able to save, and they're confident in what they are. Sorry, turned off my mic. They're confident in what they are supposed to do. They are not going to bow. They're supposed to worship the Lord alone. But they do not presume to know what God will do. God can save them. God may save them, but God may not save them. And either way, they must worship and trust God alone. Authentic faith is meek, it does not resist evil. It accepts the consequences that come from faithfulness to God and civil disobedience. And it does not demand or expect any specific outcome. Authentic faith is convinced of God's power and convinced of God's will, what God wants for us to do, but humble and open-handed with God's plan. Convinced of God's power, convinced of God's will, but open-handed with God's plan. The deepest faith is not the faith that can shout, God will deliver, but the faith that can soberly say, But even if he doesn't. That's an even deeper faith than to be able to say, God will deliver. During these winter months, our kid, we live in the city, and our kids can start feeling cooped up in the house, and they they love to take excursions. If I'm just going out to get dog food, they're like, Dad, can I please come with you? Sometimes I like to grab one of them and take them someplace special as a surprise, and I'll say, Hey, how would you like to go run an errand with me? And even though they do like to get out, they'll always respond with, Well, it depends. Where are we going? A reasonable question. But if I want to surprise them with something special, I won't tell them, I must say, you'll just have to wait and see. You'll just you'll just have to trust me. Do you want to come or not? God has many special things planned for your life. He has many wonderful things, many surprises about himself that he wants to reveal to you. But in order for us to see these things and understand these things, we must trust him without knowing where we are going. God often calls us to walk with him in faith, not knowing where we are going, not knowing what the outcome will be. God called Noah to build an ark before there was ever a cloud in the sky. Abraham was called out of Babylon, out of Ur of the Chaldeans, to go to a land that God would show him when he got there. He says, Go to a land that I will show you, not knowing where he was going. And he was called to sacrifice his beloved son Isaac, not knowing what would happen. Moses was called to lead Israel into the land of promise that he had never seen before. Esther was called to intercede for Israel before the king, not knowing whether she would live or die. Peter was called to meet Jesus out on the Sea of Galilee, not knowing how that would work, not knowing how far he would make it. Authentic faith trusts God without knowing what the outcome will be. Christians are called to live quiet lives, not seeking attention, not seeking to draw attention to themselves, and yet our faith cannot be hidden. No matter how quiet we are, an authentic faith will always put us under the microscope. This is because authentic faith is principled, because we're rooted in Christ. We do not easily conform to the shape of culture. Our principles prevent us from going with the flow. And this inevitably leads to suffering for our faith. When we refuse to disobey God because of our principles, we can suffer consequences. The loss of reputation, the loss of opportunity, the loss of freedom, economic consequences, and in very extreme cases, even the loss of life. And we do this in imitation of our Lord Jesus. 1 Peter 2, 23, Peter writes, When he suffered, when Jesus suffered, he did not threaten, but continued entrusting himself to him who judges justly. No one has ever suffered more injustice than Jesus Christ. Betrayed by a close friend, abandoned by all of his friends, handed over to the will of the crowds, beaten by godless men, subject to a shameful and public death. In each of these instances, he did not respond with threats, but with faith, with meek faith, entrusting himself into the hands of God, and thereby accomplishing the salvation of many. If our Lord can do this for us, we can resolve now, in this moment, not in the heat of the moment, but here and now, we can resolve by the help of the Holy Spirit to do these same things in his name. To this end, let us pray. Our Father, we thank you for the example of these companions, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who did, whose faith did prevail in the heat of the moment and they did conquer. And the real miracle here, Lord, is that there are people who do not worship the image. Even if they were burned up in the furnace, the miracle would still have occurred. The most amazing thing about this story is that there are some who do not worship Nebuchadnezzar's image, but who worship the Lord instead. And yet, Lord, as we will see next week, you are faithful to deliver them and to save them, and that the fires do not harm them. And we pray, God, that you would help us to take this example and to gain courage and resolve from it. Help us to see Jesus Christ in this and to cleave to him, to cling to him, and to imitate him. In his name we pray. Amen. Amen. Let's stand and sing together.