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McCarthy was masterful. McCord was mid. What do Michigan and Ohio State hope to improve in Week 2? Plus, Clemsoning is back in full force, we owe Florida State an apology, and Rutgers to the Rose Bowl is alive on a technicality.
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Speaker 3:There's nothing quite like the game Michigan versus Ohio State. This is the Rivalry sponsored by Elevated Integrity Construction. Welcome to the Rivalry podcast. My name is Jase, that's JP. This is your garbage-free college football podcast focused on the Ohio State from Michigan football rivalry, and we have got a ton to get to from the opening week of the season. But first JP spin that wheel route for us.
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Speaker 1:Last week I said Penn State and you ripped me Right Cause they were ranked seventh in the country In my heart of hearts. Now I'm looking at Florida state and I know we said stuff last year and I don't want to say them Last week. We were not ripping on them, but we both kind of said I thought they were going to be a.
Speaker 3:I thought that was going to be an explosion.
Speaker 1:We thought they'd be a O and one and their hopes would be dead. Well, now I'm looking at their schedule and I'm going okay. Well, they beat LSU convincingly. Yeah, Not even close.
Speaker 1:Who's next on their list? Clemson Well, I just saw what Duke did to them. So who do I think has the easiest path to the playoffs now? It's the Seminoles and I, so to me, that is the team that you have to look out for, and others that meant necessarily mean that I think that they are one of the best. No, but they have the easiest route in my mind.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean they passed the first test. Yeah, and I mean and again, that's not to say well, you passed just one test. And then it's like no, but like the reality is, the ACC is not the big 10. Yeah, it's not the SEC.
Speaker 1:Clemson and LSU were the toughest games on their schedule. Lsu was tougher than Clemson by miles in my mind, and maybe LSU really is just that bad and maybe we overhyped them a little bit. But I watched that game and I just thought man all around Florida state just impressed me from top to bottom.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think I'll stay. I'll stay in the top handful of teams. I thought Alabama looked really good and again, take it with a grain of salt, based on who they're playing. I thought Alabama looked really good, I'll even I'll. Oregon looked really good and again, I'll grant you they're playing a team called Portland state, which is I don't know if you know this not a state. It's a city, a town, if you will. Yeah, but I thought Alabama and Oregon both looked surprisingly good, even taking into account the competition that they were playing in.
Speaker 1:And that's what you kind of expect. Week one is you play those teams that you just kind of roll over and and get the job done and move on. So you got to take some of that with a grain of salt. But I agree, alabama impressed me as well.
Speaker 3:So looking at Michigan for this first week. I think let's start there, cause I just feel like there's I don't know. I feel like less to say there is because Michigan played a very good football game, the. The competition was not outstanding, obviously East you had a good year.
Speaker 1:last year they lost eight and five, eight and five, but they lost their starting running back quarterback receiver talent gone.
Speaker 3:Not remotely the same team. It's funny because Michigan and Ohio state fans are both the same when it comes to their over criticism of their football team. So Michigan has their first drive. They get the ball like the two yard line and they run the ball three times in punt and people were already on social media going, oh boy, we can't run the ball. We can, we're not being able to do. You realize I don't know if you've watched football before what they're trying to do is not turn the ball over at the two yard line because they go, hey, we could just punt this away. We trust our defense and we're going to be okay. And you know what happened they punted the ball away, got the ball back and drove down and score.
Speaker 1:And that's been the Michigan way. That's been the Michigan way to play. Anyways, you got the best running back tandem in big 10 with Edwards and quorum, your game plan, you're going to run, you're going to run the entirety of that game. I mean, that's, that's the thing, and they didn't have to.
Speaker 3:well, and that's the interesting thing is that I get being they were being conservative right there at the beginning of the game. Jj McCarthy looks like a completely different animal than he did last year. 26 of 30, 280 yards, three touchdowns, all of them to Roman Wilson. Roman Wilson balled out Three touchdowns. He looked good and they had a connection. Last year too they did.
Speaker 3:But again, this was kind of what we were promised on the Michigan side during the off season was we were told JJ was bigger physically, that he was faster, that they were going to have more of a balanced air attack versus running attack, and it was a great adjustment. What we saw last year a lot was Michigan said we're going to run the ball on you, and when they ran the ball eventually teams would kind of start stacking in. That's when Michigan would kind of dink and dunk a little bit and throw the ball around. This game was kind of the opposite. The run game didn't really do numbers, but they ECU stacked the box early to keep Michigan from running the ball and JJ lit them up. So later in the game you saw ECU kind of back off a little bit and that's when you saw Michigan start handing the ball off a lot more. They're also up by 30 trying to get guys out of the game and just kind of milk that clock with the new rules too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's one of those things, and I want to start off by saying a little dig at Michigan, because why not? What in the world was up with that stupid formation holding up the four?
Speaker 3:The train formation. I love it.
Speaker 1:The plane that the victim card is so gross. You punished yourself.
Speaker 3:You made you suspend. You want a ball freed.
Speaker 1:Why did they sell why?
Speaker 3:did they self suspend, though Was it just for kicks. It feels like no, they self suspended because they're trying to handcuff what the NCAA can do in the future. You and I both know that the entire Harbaugh cheeseburger gate thing is ridiculous, it's stupid.
Speaker 1:But it's, why not draw?
Speaker 3:attention to that. Why not draw more attention to how ridiculous it is? I love?
Speaker 1:that I don't think it's going to change anything You're talking about it. I'm talking. I have no control over the NCAA, I can't look.
Speaker 3:What's amazing to me is the little brother attitude that's coming from both Michigan state and Ohio state fans who have nothing else to talk about except the fact that Michigan looks darn good. So we're going to find the most obscure thing. We can make it a problem.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying it's a problem. I just thought how dumb that that is. Like I, I get going out and talking about it. There are other ways that you could bring attention to it, rather than trying to play that weird victim of free Harbaugh shirts and whatever it's, whatever.
Speaker 3:I think we can just score it on your defense again.
Speaker 1:I think we'll see this year, I think walking away from that game it's. I saw this a lot on the Ohio state side, and on the Michigan side as well, where people were disappointed that they didn't put up more points and I'm like that's ridiculous. They had Michigan had three drives in the first half of like 70 plus yards. That are lengthy drives. They drove down the field, they punched it in. They were like what? 23,? Nothing at half and they were in complete control. They weren't in fear of losing that game.
Speaker 3:They took their foot off, they took their foot off the gas, which is fine.
Speaker 1:You don't want to see that happen too consistently, but they were in zero trouble for losing that game.
Speaker 3:And I'll also throw this out too in the and again, this is not entirely true across the board to look at what Oregon did to Portland state. But with the new rules, with the running clock after a first down and outside of the last two minutes, like that's going to shorten up your game 100%, every scores every possession is going to be that much more important.
Speaker 3:Nobody that watched the game is remotely concerned about anything from Michigan. Yes, you could look at it and go. Well, you know the running game didn't do the numbers that we're used to Right, but did you see the passing game? They didn't need to.
Speaker 3:Well, I do think a lot of that is just strategy. The other, you know, the only the only major takeaway that I'm going to have as I look at it and go yeah, kicking game was inconsistent. See, the only thing I walked away from that, Jake Moody and that'll fix itself. I'm not going to. If that's, the biggest problem I have is hey the kicking, we missed an extra point.
Speaker 1:Kicking games, the little inconsistent Okay Cool, I think I'm not concerned about that, my, and we can talk about a house date here in a little bit. My, my takeaways from that game were nothing that they did wrong. It's just stuff that I, if I was a Michigan fan, I would have liked to see a little bit more of what. I would have liked to have seen Edwards be a little bit more dominant. He only ended up with what? 30 something yards.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but that's what I'm saying though.
Speaker 1:I mean you kind of expect that because he's going to be splitting carries with quorum a little bit, but once it became a blow I would have liked to have seen him be a little bit more of the featured back, get a couple more carries, I think, going into this next game against UNLV. They're not going to be in trouble of losing that game either. I would just like to see there comes like a fine line with running backs now where you want to preserve their legs for the late season, especially quorum, coming off that injury.
Speaker 3:You don't want to come in off his own injury too, you don't want to grant.
Speaker 1:that was his hand, so like you don't want to see him going out there and exhausting his leg against UNLV and East Carolina. So I would love to see Edwards kind of be the featured back. I thought McCarthy played exceptional. I think what's impressed me a lot about him is year by year it kind of he showcases another step forward. So I mean his first year you could see the talent there but he didn't really show anything.
Speaker 3:It was just.
Speaker 1:You saw flashes of it but he was splitting with Cade, and so it's whatever. Last year he finally took control. You saw another huge glimpse of what he could be, but the passing game was it was there, but it wasn't what it is. This past week, this past week, he showed. I mean, the numbers speak for themselves 26 to 30, 298, three touchdowns. He made it look easy.
Speaker 3:And I think that's where you know you can go. You could say, okay, well, it's competition. Yes, that's true, but just from a game plan standpoint. And again, will that look the same when Harbaugh?
Speaker 1:comes back. I think it will. Yeah, it's the yardage, isn't what concerns me, because it's East Carolina and the game plan of.
Speaker 3:we're going to come out throwing the football, like if I'm, you know, and again looking at this through the lens of the rivalry, if I'm Ohio state right now and I look at my defense versus what happened last year and the year before that also, and look at this and go, okay, now it's not just, hey, we've got a figure If we just have to shut down the rushing attack. But now there's, I mean and he showcased it a little bit, I mean more than a little bit in the in the game last year but if there's now a legitimate, consistent passing attack too, that's that you're exactly right. That's that next step for.
Speaker 1:Michigan and that's that's. That's all good as a Michigan fan when you're going in, yeah, as a Michigan guy when you're going into this game, those were the things you were looking for was how does quorum look? Which he looked fine he looks really healthy, which it looked great. Yep Didn't get a sack, but who cares?
Speaker 3:I mean they only scored. I'd like to see more defensive pressure, but we had that same thing last year.
Speaker 1:This word is time expired? It was basically 30, nothing, saddest field goal. Who cares? You wanted to see McCarthy advance. You didn't want to see the same McCarthy.
Speaker 2:You wanted to see the leadership was already there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he looked exactly what you were hoping for, so all around good for them going up against UNLV advisor McCarthy, jj McVizer stop it. We're not making that a thing.
Speaker 2:Jay has been you are not making start off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, unlv will be. Unlv will will not be an issue. Ecu was the most. Again, take this with here what I'm saying in context ECU is the most concerning of the non-native, non-conference games. Just because they they had some success last year, unlv is not a good football team. Bowling green is a very bad football team. Unlv I I agree with you in the sense of I would like to see, I'd like to see more of the running game.
Speaker 1:This next game. It's not that it worries me, no, it's just from a fans. If you're a Michigan fan, I want to see Edward come out there, yeah.
Speaker 3:Let's, let's see you do it. Although again, if I'm UNLV I take the same game plan defensively as ECU and I say we're like I'll just let you run the ball in Michigan At this point it's just so dangerous, it's going to be hard to contain. I don't have much. I'd love to see the run game do a little bit more. I'd like to see more consistent special teams from Michigan on, especially in the in the kicking game. As far as field goals, extra points, not so much punting or coverage or anything like that. 54 to seven. Okay, I think Michigan's going to have good offensive day. I'll give seven points to UNLV, kind of like ECU cause Michigan will back off and have the twos and threes out there and start playing soft defense. That's, that's what they do. It's bound to give up a garbage time touchdown somewhere. This game's not going to be close.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it'll be basically the same story as this past week. They're going to go out there and get a big lead going into halftime. They're going to take their foot off the gas. You're going to see them. I still think they're going to. Their second string is going to be too talented. I think Edwards will really have a big day. I have the final 42 to seven. I think it's just going to be a quick first half. The second half they're just going to kind of run it, try and get the clock going.
Speaker 3:It was the most boring second half of football and that's what it's going to be. That's what you expect.
Speaker 1:If you're a fan of Michigan, you hope for those days, and so I think it will be 42 to seven. I just don't see UNLV. I know they're one and O, but I think their win last week was against, like Bryant college or somebody like that.
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Speaker 1:It's time to talk about the good old buck eyes now. How do you?
Speaker 3:feel Okay, like let's, let's, let's cut the chase it was a roller coaster in the world is going on at quarterback.
Speaker 1:You know. You know, what I'm more frustrated about is is Ryan day and not in, not in a like spicy, not in a let's go fire the man or anything like that.
Speaker 3:No, no, get off the test, man.
Speaker 1:I don't understand what we've been doing this whole off season where it is a quarterback battle and all this stuff is going on. You start McCord and I kind of expected maybe what everybody in the nation was expecting where it was McCord gets gets a half, devon Brown gets a half. You compare the half and go forward. But it was like first quarter, devon to three or something like that, and Devon Brown's being trotted out there after like a series or two and then he runs the ball three times. It was bad and I'm just sitting there going, but why wasn't good, but why? And then overall, I don't even know if Devon Brown played more than 10 snaps. He was like one of three. He handed off the ball a bunch of times but he didn't really play significant times. So in my mind, as a fan, I'm going okay.
Speaker 3:Well, now it's a clear indicator Kyle McCord is the starter and that's where in in you, and I texted about a little bit, where you know I hate watched the game, of course, but I was interested and it was, it was, I think it was. I want to say it was late second quarter when bro came in, but it was, I don't know if it was even that late. It was a. It was a seven to three game, which is its own issue. Okay, it's, it's, that's its own issue. It's a seven three game and he brought Devon Brown in and I think he threw a couple passes.
Speaker 1:But he was one of three for like negative two yards.
Speaker 3:He definitely ran on third down and went nowhere. And I it. I looked like diet tape Martell out there. I don't know what the thought process was of I'm going to bring him in here. I don't know if it was it's seven three. This is awkward. Let's try and switch things up, but that did not feel like the time to do it.
Speaker 1:What I think is so weird about it is not that I'm not upset about it, obviously, but I just I don't understand it either.
Speaker 1:Normally if you're going to do like a smoke screen, like that for a starting quarterback, it's before a big game, not before you go and play in Indiana Right, Like if it was going up against Notre Dame and you were trying to figure something out of if this person was injured and going to be starting. I get trying to lay low, but to me you showed your hand now because it's very evident to me it's McLean Brown was not even in the competition. No, he just isn't. There's no way you can tell me that is a legitimate competition when one guy goes out there and throws 33 passes and the other guy throws three. There's no way you have adequate film on either of them to make that decision. It's already been made.
Speaker 3:I think the interesting thing too and this is not original to me, somebody on the Ohio state beat mentioned this, but I think it's it's deeply concerning if you're a Buckeye fan to go, granted, like there's gamesmanship here, like Harbaugh is the king of doing this right, but there's a difference between Harbaugh going, hey, here's what Kade did last year and here's what JJ is capable of and we're going to play it into the competition in the season. That, to me, is different because Kade had proven himself. This whole thing felt like I'm going to try to play a. It almost felt like, in hindsight, now I'm going to try to hype this up, like this is a competition when it's clearly McCord but also the fat. This is the part that came from the the beat. I believe the fact that Kyle McCord played that way on Saturday but it's still the clear cut leader tells me that there wasn't so much competition as much as Ryan Davis pulling his beard out going. What the heck am I supposed to do here?
Speaker 1:See, and I think it's a little bit of an overreaction on Kyle McCord's performance, it wasn't phenomenal but we're so I would even say it was good. I would say it was serviceable. I mean it was. Is that the standard? Though Not for Ohio State, which is the issue he's got to grow into it? But you look, cj Stroud's first start was Garp. Wasn't that great either. It wasn't anything to write home about.
Speaker 1:And so it was this first start against Indiana but maybe it was Maryland or somebody like that too, and so I do agree with you in a sense that it's different than Michigan. I think back when they had Kate McNamara and McCarthy, you already knew what you were getting in, and Kate with a, he had already started.
Speaker 3:He was a serviceable guy and that felt like a legit competition.
Speaker 1:Well, and the question wasn't the question wasn't who is better, it was a. We know what Kate is. Kate led us to a great record, a great season, but we know the potential. Everybody knew McCarthy was going to be better than Kate, but he had his.
Speaker 1:But he had hit a ceiling but he had hit a ceiling, and so it was not a question of who's the better one, it was okay. We've got two guys. One guy we already know is capped. The other guy is almost at the same level and we know that his ceiling is infinitely higher.
Speaker 3:And that was absolutely the right call?
Speaker 1:Do we make the tough decision, whereas now it is a? We just had an elite guy who, by the way, was just named the captain of the Houston Texans as a rookie in CJ Stroud, and then you're bringing in these guys which McCord had had a couple like, I think one start prior to to Saturday maybe it was against Akron.
Speaker 3:And I remember how we were coming back from Michigan Rutgers.
Speaker 1:Actually, I remember that.
Speaker 3:That's when our colleague tried to give us COVID.
Speaker 1:Big facts and so I he'd started one game prior you. It was just frustrating to watch, but I think it was a little bit of an over over reaction. I know people were mad about his interception, but it was fourth down, they were already going for it. You either throw it away or try and make a play, and you were already deep back into their, into their side of the field, so I wasn't necessarily concerned with that. I thought he made some nice throws. I thought he had some that he missed. My biggest concern and it hurts me a little bit to say do it.
Speaker 1:And I almost texted you this before, but you didn't want to but I didn't want to jinx it this early, I didn't want to use my Cade Stover game this early, but I almost texted you and said it was going to be a Cade Stover day only because and I did have legitimate reason the only reason is because I thought that Ohio state's game plan would be to run the ball with Henderson and Mayan and to do short, comfortable throws, which the tight end is always the safe option. So that's why I thought and it proved to be true Marvin Harrison and a Bucca had five catches for like 40 yards maybe combined. My one concern going forward is I I want McCord to throw the ball against young town state and against Western Kentucky.
Speaker 1:I want him to say I want him close to 40 attempts. I want to see what we've got.
Speaker 3:You know what's coming on the horizon at the end of the month.
Speaker 1:I want to see it. I want to know can he make the throws he needs to make? Because when you go to South Bend in week four he's going to have to step up and make some play that way against Notre Dame and you will get beat by three scores. And I think I think the defense played exceptional.
Speaker 3:Granted it was against Indiana, but they played well, I'll throw him a bone and say you did what you needed to do.
Speaker 1:Yes, I don't think they were. I don't think they were great.
Speaker 3:I'm not walking away with the silver bullets or back and all that garbage it was a good defensive play.
Speaker 1:It's tough to say, I think the defense terrible. I think the defense will be good enough to keep them in the Notre Dame game. The factors for me the factors for me.
Speaker 3:I was assuming young sound state as a win.
Speaker 1:Okay, Young sound state is okay, except the bell on their website. I've already seen it. Um, if you, if you go into this, I think the stuff that I need to see. I want to see him a court sling it. I mean he to me against young sound state and against Western Kentucky. He's got to have 300 plus yards, a couple touchdowns. He's got to be super efficient. But I also and this is maybe the biggest factor, because it's going to help Kyle be able to make those throws I've got to see travion Henderson be travion Henderson.
Speaker 3:I go ahead. I'm glad you brought this up.
Speaker 1:I walked away from this weekend and there were times where he looked explosive again and I thought, all right, here we go, but it just never. I wanted to see a dominant performance from him. I was expecting a hundred yard game. I was expecting the run game between him and mine and chip to go out there and be able to make the job a little easier for McCord going out there, and I just didn't see it. I wasn't overly impressed with the run game.
Speaker 3:I told you last year, and I'll stand by this, that I thought last year mine Williams was a better running back than Henderson.
Speaker 1:Chip might be better than both of them right now.
Speaker 3:You're preempting me a little bit because I came away from that game not impressed with the run game at all, but going, you know what I think?
Speaker 1:chip trainer might be your RB one. The converted linebacker might be our best guy.
Speaker 3:And again, that's not, I think mine. Williams is a. It's still a good running back. I do not understand for the life of me why Travion Henderson is your RB one. See, I didn't last year and I'm going to stand by that. I don't get it.
Speaker 1:I think he's got the explosiveness too.
Speaker 3:I don't know if injuries. I don't know if injuries have gotten to him.
Speaker 2:Like I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think, my end is proven to be that bruiser back when they gave the end zone.
Speaker 3:They're giving it to more twitchy.
Speaker 1:They're giving it to him and he's going in. Travion's got a little bit more movement to him. I just, I'm concerned going. This has been the proven year, his, his freshman year. I thought here we go, we're just reloading at the running back position and it hasn't been that way last year he kind of started out that way and then the injury happened and he just never and again, let's remember, this is not an elite defense that they were playing.
Speaker 3:No, indiana is not good. So if I'm again, I'm looking at that as a Michigan man. Now, I will also grant you that there is a difference between playing a team in September and playing them in November. So there's, but let's speculate wildly anyway. But as a Michigan man, with our defense, I'm salivating. I'm looking at that going. Here is and I wrote this on the blogs as well, which you can find at river radiocom slash rivalry and I said, if, if McCord looks, I needed McCord to look human, I need him to look vulnerable. He did. I didn't see anything in the run game that made me go oh boy, we better watch out, for I think.
Speaker 1:Michigan.
Speaker 3:Notre Dame and Penn State are all salivating watching the thing with Ohio state is.
Speaker 1:sure, mccord wasn't flashy, but I'll take 200 something yards and he he could have been a little bit more accurate. Sure, I won't hold the interception against him because of the scenario it was in. Ohio state's wide receivers are not human and that's Bucca and Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 3:That's the. That's the other big concern, though, is Marv had I wrote this down, cause I was shocked yeah, two catches 18 yards, and let me consult my notes here. Someone said, or I read somewhere, that this is that is the second least in his career. Two catches 18 yards.
Speaker 1:It's not going to say that way.
Speaker 3:It won't. But my question is why can you not find him, or a Bucca, and again I get that. Hey, well, it meant Stover was open. Most of that chunk came on, one play Most of it.
Speaker 1:He was five, five, 94, 98.
Speaker 3:Stover had himself a very good game but as far as yardage goes, the big chunk of that came on. One play I just you've got. If you're Ohio state, I would be. You are calm compared to where I'd be in the same situation with that's type of wide receiver on either end and you only got a handful of times.
Speaker 1:Talk to me next. Talk to me after week two and three. If it's got, I think it has to be.
Speaker 3:It has to be an absolutely dominant, anything but a dominant performance against FCS school and again, like it has to be, for me, there's no excuse.
Speaker 1:The game plan going into week one was Jim Tressel, esk, conservative of we're going to go and we're going to try to run the ball. We know our defense is going to be there to stop them. We know they're not going to score enough to beat us, so we need to go out there and play the safe place. We don't need to risk it. We need to give McCord safe throws. We need to run the ball and that's what they did. They weren't trying to gun it out and throw deep passes often, but that's what I'm looking for against young sound state. Going into this next game, which we can transfer over to that now going into this game against young sound state, I need to see McCord slinging it. I need to see the run game go. I've got the final 45 to three Cause I need to see you've got to come out and, offensively, show me You've got athletes.
Speaker 3:I think against this opponent the issues will look like they're. Next time will tell if they actually are. No today but well, and I'll even say Western Kentucky, I think it's going to be an interesting matchup and we'll get to that next week?
Speaker 1:Are you saying it would be a hill that we have to top.
Speaker 3:I would not say that. I was going to say that what would be ideal is if, at the gates of the game, everyone just hand out like free tattoos, like those little water tattoos, to welcome trespass back. I hope, I hope we get to see Tress in the press box, the Tress box, if you will we are going to be at the game, so we should probably preface that we're going to be there.
Speaker 1:You can actually follow all sorts of stuff that we're going to be doing on game day on all of our socials, at rival pod. We've got Twitter, we've got an Instagram, we've got a YouTube that we're going to be uploading stuff to.
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Speaker 1:Yeah, Again I think the issues will look fixed if they don't buckle up for a very if it's another like 28 to 10 or 28, seven, even 28, three, I would feel like then you can start to overreact.
Speaker 3:But right now, yeah, if it's 28 to three against young sound state, you are in full panic mode. Also, I keep wanting to reference three, two, one penguins, but I don't know if anyone else knows who that is your idea of what that is Okay. So there's there's. The creators of veggie tales made the spin off thing where it's like penguins, that it's almost like a mix between toy story and veggie tales, where these penguins come to life and they teach you about the Bible.
Speaker 1:I've never seen that.
Speaker 3:It's fine, my first, the first be more entertaining than watching the young sound state Ohio state game this weekend Cause it's going to be a slaughter house movie I ever saw in theaters was madam blueberry from veggie tales.
Speaker 1:That makes sense for me, knowing who you are as a person.
Speaker 3:Anyway let's talk about what happened elsewhere in college football. There's so many storylines. Oh man, here's the one that I want to bring up. The organ duck does pushups after every single touchdown. Oregon scored 81 points. Jack, that dude's muscles are insane 546 pushups for the organ duck on Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1:Yoked man.
Speaker 3:That's it. That's literally the only thing that I want to say Arms are insane. Other than congrats and this was going to sound wild coming from me. Congratulations to Michigan state. I picked central Michigan ups. Congratulations, michigan state. Michigan state has already in one game. Michigan state has already achieved 20% of last year's win total. I don't know if you've seen this 20% of last year's win total in one week. Wait no Tucker Tucker coming, let's go.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you've seen this yet, but did you see that you were getting some hate on our YouTube channel over that, am I?
Speaker 3:You absolutely were. Who's saying that I'm a rifle hot on YouTube?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, go and find it. Let me see if I can find this. Here it is. It was from a Michigan state fan. He said ha, how you feel now MSU on top. You thought we would lose to those bombs and you know what he did.
Speaker 3:That's cool. I don't. I ran a Michigan state friend. I don't really think about you much at all. I just think about you during this podcast.
Speaker 1:Congratulations you struggled for the first half of central. Michigan and then had to watch your star receiver play for Florida state and dominate so also while paying your coach. What is it? 10 years ago, 25 million.
Speaker 3:It is. Thank you we ran a Michigan state fan for commenting on that one.
Speaker 1:This is a garbage free podcast.
Speaker 3:until those come in, I'll give, I'll give, I'll give this. This subscriber, this I'll give them this. Michigan state is one elite player away from being an elite program If they could land a guy like a Keon Coleman.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine that what that offense would look like?
Speaker 3:with Keon Coleman easily, easily, five wins.
Speaker 1:If you follow us over on Twitter at rival pod, you'll see I actually did a custom Jersey swap of that and it's pretty impressive.
Speaker 3:It's pretty impressive. Do you have any any other takeaways from the week one?
Speaker 1:I mean, there's so many, but can we just take a moment to rejoice that Clemson got absolutely smoked. It's just. I mean, I came in this morning feeling great. I watched that. I got to watch Brian Kelly look sad on the sideline. That was phenomenal. Rutgers dominated Northwestern, so I was living. I was living. So tell me give me.
Speaker 3:So we do this thing. If you knew the podcast, it's called Rutgers to the Rose Bowl, where we rank how, what the chances are still statistically of Rutgers making the Rose Bowl game, which again this year is a college football playoff semi on a scale of one to five sheanos on the shianometer.
Speaker 1:Look after week one. I think it's a five out of five sheanos Technically technically they still could go.
Speaker 3:They've got, they've got temple.
Speaker 1:They've got temple as a night game. If you're looking for some energy, you're looking for a nice night game under the light, you get to play something called Wagner who doesn't want to spend their Saturday night in Piscataway, new Jersey, at night watching temple football. I mean, honestly, it just don't get better than that.
Speaker 3:And I don't remember if it was at this point in Michigan, a broadcaster in Ohio state one. But they had said, you know, it might have been Michigan, cause we were going. Michigan was going to Rutgers and they had said, you know, there's a lot, you know, with a night game coming up against Rutgers. This was last year. They said you know, there are so many campuses on the big, in the big 10, that I would just love to spend the day walking around. And at the bottom of the list is Piscataway, new Jersey. I've been to the campus and I concur it's. I've never been, but it's on the bucket list.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would not go to see a night game at 10 against temple.
Speaker 3:It's not so much on the bucket list as much as it is on the bottom of the barrel. Let's be.
Speaker 1:I would go. No, I want to go. But I want to go see a night game. When it's like Penn state, somebody like that. When, when Rutgers is decent I mean, gavin Wimpsat showed some improvement I thought I'm comfortable with him going forward. They'll beat temple, it'll be two, nothing. Then they play Virginia tech. That's going to be the first test. That's probably where we're going to lose some Shianos here and there, but right now it's a pretty at five, five of five, all right.
Speaker 3:So we now come to the part of the show where we're going to give you our upset picks for week two. We call this stupid genius, cause sometimes it's stupid, sometimes it's genius. Neither of us were correct. Last week I picked central Michigan, you had South Carolina. Both of those teams lost in pretty heavy fashion, wasn't even close. Here's what we're going to do Moving forward, we're going to put some parameters on this. So this is loosely based on a super dog from from college game day. When you pick moving forward, we're going to start keeping points. We're going to start keeping track. You get five points. If you, the team you call for stupid genius actually pulls off the upset, you get five points. Okay, and you get the points from the spread. So let's say, let's say, you had picked Colorado over TCU last week, you'd get five points for that pick if the cause they did it and you would get 20 and a half for the spread.
Speaker 1:I like this, so you ended up with 25 and a half.
Speaker 3:So the only caveat here is the spread has to be at least four point five points. It's got to be at least a four and a half point spread for it to be considered an upset, easy, easy.
Speaker 1:Okay, what's the? So did we come up with something that's going to happen for the person that loses this? We haven't yet, but maybe that's something you could vote on. A suggestion box.
Speaker 3:I think, ooh, I think that's good Follow us. That's dangerous, but I'm down All right, so here's here's mine this week. This is, I believe, a six point spread, so it qualifies. I am taking Texas over.
Speaker 2:Alabama Dang it, I am taking.
Speaker 3:I'm a big boy. I said in in the week zero episode that Texas is my dark horse playoff team. The one thing urban Meyer and I can agree on, and that's it. But I'm just a big believer in Texas. I know Alabama looked really good. I know I know their new quarterback looks good. I'm a big Quinn Ewers guy and I just think great? I think don't even. I just think Texas has enough talent on their team Even without Bijan this year. I like Texas pulling the upset in this one.
Speaker 1:I really do. I wanted to be noted that I did not know that we were going to start a competition before I made my pick, and I also knew that Jase was going to pick Texas over Alabama.
Speaker 3:So that's, you.
Speaker 1:Um, just go and really make you mad, and I love every part of it. Nc state over Notre Dame, let's go. Brennan Armstrong, shelby. Ohio native Shelby, ohio native, going to come out a gun slinging. What's that? Do you know the spread on that seven and a half points. So not terrible, not terrible. I'll be honest. Home, north Carolina state's at home, which helps, I'll be honest, I don't hate it. I knew you would just hate that I mentioned Brennan Armstrong.
Speaker 3:So, local, local guy, I don't hate it. And here's why it because, as much as I think Notre Dame is the real deal, they haven't proved it yet and I think going on the road at NC state is a great. Is NC state a phenomenal? No no, but there are good football teams.
Speaker 1:They've got decent quarterback play. I think the potential is there.
Speaker 3:This will be a good test to see how legit Notre Dame is so.
Speaker 1:I've got it my first chance to take the lead. I'm relying on the hometown kid.
Speaker 3:This has been stupid, stupid. We were going to start keeping track. Yeah, I like it, you can. You can vote, Let us know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, send your suggestions to us on Instagram or on Twitter. At rival pond.
Speaker 3:Last thing, let's cover here with the shakeups in week one. Give me your top six teams in order. Top six, and I want them in order.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, I'm going to have to write stuff down. So I got at one. I'm going to go Georgia one agree. Michigan to agree. Until they lose, I'm still going to Ohio state. This is where the part ways then I'm going to go Florida state, then I'll go Alabama. Who do I want at the six spot? I don't know who my six is. Right now it's a toss up. It's a toss up.
Speaker 3:I'll agree with you on Georgia one, michigan two. I'm I'm going to repent, I'm going to put forward a state at three. I think I think that's the best win of the weekend. I have no problem with that. I'm putting Penn state at four. Oh, penn state's a good one. I liked what I saw from Penn state. I liked what I saw from Drew hour.
Speaker 1:I was going to go Tennessee or Penn state One of those two.
Speaker 3:I liked what I saw in the two headed running back monster that Penn state has, because Penn state right now looks a lot like Michigan. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I said that last week and you ripped me.
Speaker 3:But now I've got something to base it on.
Speaker 1:I said that same same no you didn't.
Speaker 3:I said that last week and you rolled your eyes. No, I rolled my eyes because I said a team to watch out for you pick the top 17.
Speaker 1:No, I said this team reminded me of Michigan when McCarthy took over. You had a young quarterback that was highly recruited. They had a lot of promise to him. You had did running back duo. That was phenomenal and a good defense and this man rolled his eyes. You can run the tape.
Speaker 3:Run it back a visual review Bama five USC six Ohio state seven.
Speaker 1:USC has not played anybody yet for me to be worried about.
Speaker 3:Ohio state has played nobody and looked bad doing it. So I still, I still got. Make sure you follow us on social media. At rival pod, make sure you are falling, especially this weekend as we head to see Ohio state play. Young sound state considered becoming a patron, subscriber and supporter. Go blue, go bucks. Thanks for watching.
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