Former Ohio State WR Roy Hall Jr. isn't afraid to use the "M" word. (Yes, that one.) Roy shares what it was like playing Michigan in the #1 v. #2 matchup in 2006, which teams impress him the most in 2023, and why he's committed his life to giving back to the community.
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Former Ohio State WR Roy Hall Jr. isn't afraid to use the "M" word. (Yes, that one.) Roy shares what it was like playing Michigan in the #1 v. #2 matchup in 2006, which teams impress him the most in 2023, and why he's committed his life to giving back to the community.
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Speaker 3:Absolutely. Um, it's the arrival.
Speaker 2:I came in a lead.
Speaker 3:We're straight for the title Come on, touchdown Marvin Harrison Junior. Marvelous Get's past ransom Diamond Edwards. Touchdown the down.
Speaker 1:There's nothing quite like the game Michigan versus Ohio State. This is the Rivalry sponsored by Elevated Integrity Construction. This is the Rivalry Podcast. It's the greatest rivalry in sports Michigan and Ohio State. I'm Jase. That's JP what up. Thanks for following along. You may notice we've got a third special guest with us today, mr Roy Hall, in the studio. Roy.
Speaker 3:In the studio. I'm glad he's sitting on your side.
Speaker 4:This is I've got a bonus, a bonus friend, today. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1:So, roy, tell us just in case folks aren't familiar, tell us a little bit about your time with Ohio State, what you're doing now, and we'll get into some details here in a minute.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's awesome. So thanks for having me on Excited to be here. So it's a lot of scarlet and gray and it's also some amazing blue in here. It doesn't make me uncomfortable because I beat that team up north and we beat that team up north four times when I played at Ohio State, so four sets of gold pants.
Speaker 1:We got 45 seconds in. I'm going in. I'm here for it.
Speaker 4:I love the vibe.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. I played from 2002 to 2006, won a national title with the Buckeyes and 02 with a great game when we beat Miami in the Fiesta Bowl double overtime, one of those classic college football games. And then a plate in another national title game in 2006,. But we lost to the Florida Gators when coach Urban Meyer was still on the dark side, and so once we got him saved and converted, you know we made up for it, but I had a great time.
Speaker 3:Obviously, some great teammates you know the likes of Troy Smith, who won the highest Montague in junior, anthony Gonzalez, nick mango, aj Hawk, bobby Carpenter, uh, santonio Holmes, maurice Claret, michael Jenkins, like the list goes on and on, and some Craig Crenzo. Some of the most famous and most popular and impactful Buckeyes in the history came through in those times when I was there. Then, when all I got drafted in fifth round by the Indianapolis coach, which was awesome, play for Tony Dungey and learn so much under him. A faith filled man who really showed you how to lead men with egos. You know, lead a multi millionaires without raising his voice, without cursing, without profanity and just doing it the right way and with integrity. And so it was a blast playing in the league for four years and injuries kind of cup every year and cut my career short and so it's a lot of testimonies that kind of go with that.
Speaker 3:But started my driven foundation my first year and we've been rocking and rolling for 14 years now, making a difference in the community, providing basic human needs to families to combat poverty.
Speaker 3:So over the last 15 years we've been able to distribute 1.5 million pounds of free food to over 10,000 central Ohio families and so every December when everyone goes on break, people forget that a lot of these kids and students that we work with they're on free lunches and so that 10 days or 11 days that they're off school during winter break.
Speaker 3:We position our food outreach in that gap so that we can make sure those kids still eat and those families still eat. So it's awesome and that's just what I've been doing, serving through the driven foundation, and then also I travel around the country speaking and doing motivational speaking and things. And it's been awesome to be able to get into the corporate space and really motivate and push people to be the best, best version of themselves and the best leaders that they can be. And you know, it's kind of like coach talk, motivational speeches, pre game speeches, get them fired up, but also to present some perspective on life itself. So it's been awesome. Everything that I do is about making a difference and leaving my mark on people, and through my serving and through working and speaking has been absolutely awesome. A dream come true will be an understatement.
Speaker 1:And also on the podcast side. President of the rivers board.
Speaker 3:As well, yeah, this is kind of a big deal around here too. There's that piece.
Speaker 1:Before we before we dive more into the football side of this, because I think this is really important You're obviously so passionate about your organization with driven. Tell me a little bit about why that became such a passion for you and how your faith plays into that and you kind of touched on that a little bit already.
Speaker 3:No, no, you're absolutely right. Really, the basis of the driven foundation is is understanding how to use your platform for purpose, and so all of us have our respective jobs or things that we do to make a living, and whether you're an NFL player or you have an awesome podcast, or you work in ministry or you're a dentist or a teacher or a principal or whatever it may be, there's that, there's that label of what we do, but then there's who we are and who we are our men and women of God, who want to use what we have to help other people. Everything that we have or acquire or build up to is yes for us, but it's also to be able to help God's people, and so, through Driven, how it got started, was just like understanding what it's like to not have anything.
Speaker 3:I grew up in a single-parent household. My mom raised my sister and I alone, and my dad had some challenges with substance abuse, and so domestic violence looked a lot different in 89, 90 and 91, where a lot of people weren't necessarily I don't want to say they weren't caring. It just wasn't as imperative to get families and people out of terrible situations, and so I grew up in a lot of trauma, and so once my mom and dad divorced, my mom was on her own and so I was that a part of a family that needed those, those organizations like Driven who were given away free food and given away free childcare. We had moments where the refrigerator was empty. Eviction notices come in every color in this room, and so when you feel the pressure of about to be kicked out of your house, when mom doesn't have transportation, we can't afford a car, mom's not eating, we're not eating. Those are things that you never forget.
Speaker 3:And so I knew once I got a little bit older and once I was blessed with a position like playing in the NFL, there was no doubt in my mind that I was going to try and leverage that to be able to make a difference. Coach Trestle sold those seeds as well by having us out in the community on a day-to-day basis, so to speak, a lot, especially for the young guys that weren't playing a lot early on, visiting James Cancer Hospital, visiting local elementary schools. You see, when the Scarlet and Gray shows up, how it can infuse life into an individual and you're like man that's powerful. And that gift is not necessarily for me solely. That gift is to be able to share and you do it through serving, and so that's kind of the where Driven was started just understanding what it's like to not have anything, but then making sure I leverage my platform resources, connections to make sure the people that I'm around now have everything that they need.
Speaker 1:It's amazing how and this sounds very cliche, but it's amazing how God takes your particular story and turns some of that pain into your passion and purpose.
Speaker 3:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1:It's not a comfortable thing. When you're going through it, there's a lot of God. Why in the world is this going on with me right now? But to be able to look back and go you know what, though, that prepared me for what God had for me is an amazing thing.
Speaker 3:It's always. That's always the case. That's why I don't believe in bad days. There are good days and there are hard days. Right, and on those hard days, on those tough days, that's when your character is being molded and built for what's to come later. And all the things that we went through as a family have now positioned me to be number one empathetic, but also understand that making it to the NFL, or being a buck eye, is more than just cheers and touchdowns. It's more than just catching a pass from Peyton Manning. I didn't, by the way, he didn't throw the ball, he didn't throw the ball Just insert that he didn't throw.
Speaker 3:Marvin Harrison got 120 balls one year but I got zero, but it is. You know he's a Hall of Famer for a reason which is funny, right, like I, you know, I played with Marvin Harrison senior and oh, by the way, let me throw this in there I, for the last 10 years I've been the team chaplain for the house they football team I don't know if you guys knew that for the last 10 years. And so now I'm ministering to Marvin Harrison Jr and I played with his dad, which makes me feel extremely old. But you just understand that life is about making a difference and when you live your life that way and cherish every day, understanding that every day is a gift, every day is a blessing, you can go out into the world without regret, knowing that you've done everything possible to make it a better place Amazing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and you touched on this a little bit earlier, but we obviously we've got to bring up the game. I mean, that's the whole reason for this podcast. Sure, you did something that very, very few people get to experience in playing, and not only the, the rivalry game, but probably the biggest really one of the biggest games where it was number one Ohio state, number two Michigan.
Speaker 4:What was that? Just playing Michigan in general, what is the week of that game looked like from a player's point of view, but specifically that game as well, because the hype around it was just so intense. I remember watching that like.
Speaker 1:I don't even remember, I'm not going to try to think, cause I was.
Speaker 4:I was a little younger but I remember exactly where I was when Chris Wells ran 52 yards right down the middle. I remember exactly where I was at that time. So, from a player's point of view, what does that game look like specifically? But just that rivalry.
Speaker 3:I mean you want me to sum it up. It's funny. It's hard to sum up the game in a two to three minute little little conversation, but it's everything you practice every day for the game. There's a period every practice where you dedicate towards beating Michigan. Now a lot of people say that team up North, we own Michigan.
Speaker 3:When I was there, so I can say Michigan as much as I want to People get afraid. I was talking to Coach Tressel. He was like I can say Michigan, we can say Michigan, all we want to Anybody afraid of saying Michigan but it is that team up north. But at the end of the day you prepare to beat that team. It's like playing against yourself. I mean they train just like we train, matter of fact.
Speaker 3:That's how we got the gold pants tradition where Francis Smith said they put on their pants one leg at a time, just like we do. And so we went on to beat them and destroy them for like the next five years, whatever it was. But they train just as hard as we and we know that everything, every game, leads up to that game. You can be 11 and 0, but in game number 12 against Michigan, if you lose that game, it destroys the season. Now last year there was a controversial situation where we got destroyed at the in the second half by Michigan but almost played in a. You know, played for the national title, because we went down to the wire with Georgia and if we had a one, a national title they say, oh well, we would have won a national title but lost to Michigan. It would have been a great victory to be the national champions, but Michigan would have been saying you couldn't beat us.
Speaker 1:They're still that tasting, absolutely. We still have some unfinished business. Even with the national title, it would have been incomplete, but that game means everything.
Speaker 3:You solidify your legacy as a buckeye in that game. All eyes are on that game. It's the biggest rivalry in sports, not just college football and literally you come to Ohio State to play in that game and there there's a hatred. Everybody has a story of why they started hating Michigan or why they started hating Ohio State. From the other side, you have your countdown clock, but that week is intense. That week is also a week where you got to have your focus at an all time high. I mean, you're cutting off everybody that you love and I'm not talking to your mom.
Speaker 3:I'm not talking to your dad, not talking to your girlfriend, not talking to anybody. You're not even looking at Brutus, you're not doing anything. Everything is about beating that team up North, and so it was a blessing to be able to play in that game.
Speaker 1:That particular game. You, you score touchdown in it. I mean, it's just phenomenal, just like is that? Does that? When you think about and this is such a hard question when you think about, hey, some of my favorite memories playing for Ohio State, I've got to believe that that game's up in there. Yeah, what, what other games or what other scenarios would you throw in there? As, hey, these were just really special moments.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think the number one game on the list has to be number one verse. Number two Michigan, ohio State. No six, specifically because it was my last game in the shoe, it was senior day, my mom was on the field and so if you go back to the story I told about my mind, just you know you go through so much for 10, 12 years, 14 years of trying to get to that point and here I am, at 21, 22, playing in the shoe and my mom's on the field with me and I can handle a rose. That meant a lot to me. Just to kind of work through that. Being a graduate now of Ohio State, that was awesome. Game number two was probably the national title game. Now I registered that year. So we're on the field and we're dressed up and everything and in our uniform, but I didn't get on the field. But understanding what it took to win that football game, it took all 120 guys on the team and so the Mike Dossers of the world and Craig Crenzel and Reese Clark, like all those guys, donnie Nicky, those guys that were on the field making plays we're making plays that day but in practice leading up to that in all season those guys on the scout team, me included. We were getting those guys ready.
Speaker 3:It taught me a lesson about the value of every single person under the roof of the building.
Speaker 3:Right, everyone has value, and when one person doesn't do their job, other people can't do theirs.
Speaker 3:And so, while some people may think, well, you weren't all American, or you didn't play or you didn't start in that particular national title game, I got to ring just like everyone else, and it wasn't just because I was in the room, it's because I contributed, but my contributions may have been behind the scene. From a biblical perspective, we see it all the time where you get people who are infamous for not being famous. Right, this was somebody that we didn't know. This person didn't have a name, this person let Jesus stay at his house and nobody don't even know who that person is. But in this particular case, I found that the value is not in just being out in front, like real leadership is not being out in front. It's actually doing what you need to do to make sure the people who are in front can get their job done better. And so those two games are the ones to go hand in hand as being probably the best two in my Ohio State career. But again, we beat Michigan four times while I was there.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you mentioned that.
Speaker 1:Those other games become three, four and five. Absolutely as well, as well they should be, as well they should be.
Speaker 4:Well, and you talked about this earlier and I feel like it's true whenever you're a young guy. So when you were in the national championship game you said you were red shirt and so you were on the sideline. You obviously are practicing getting these guys ready, but I feel like whenever you're in that situation and you're an underclassman like that, there's always that one person, the upperclassman on the team, that sticks out to you, that you kind of latch onto and you want to kind of learn from as the season goes on. Who was that for you in the 2002 season?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you mean first thing that came about, michael Jenkins. Michael Jenkins, one of the all time greats, one of the all time leading receivers in Ohio State history, probably the most underrated and unappreciated receiver in Ohio State history. We have that recency bias and I love all my guys Garrett Wilson, chris Oliva, paris Campbell, you know Jackson Smith and jig, where these guys have had great seasons. But when they start talking about Mount Rushmore's of Ohio State receivers you can't look too far past Michael Jenkins and he was a guy that was more than willing to offer up as much information as he possibly could to our young guys. And I remember the scout team for the O2 championship team. Offensively, you had San Antonio homes at one receiver and I was at another receiver and Troy Smith and Justin's Witt were our quarterbacks right. So we had some guys that can go in that the scout team.
Speaker 1:That could be a few starting lineups.
Speaker 3:There you go. So you know we had some guys that can do some things, but having a great mentor and leader and Michael Jenkins really helped progress us going into the next year and the years to follow on what it takes to be successful at a high level, specifically from a position group standpoint. Mike did a great job. What I love most about his leadership and just lead in another principle it's just leadership is more about completion and competition, and so Michael Jenkins never looked at us like hey, you're coming for our spot or you're coming from my spot. His job as a leader was to get us right, right, and so you learn quickly like this and it's not your spot, it's not your position. I wore jersey number eight. It's been so many awesome number eights to come through our house. It's not my jersey, it's not my number, it's my job to make it better. And he served as well by by getting us ready. And Michael Jenkins is that guy that stands out immediately.
Speaker 1:Let's jump to present day. Okay, so we're. We're going through the season here at rival pod, which, by the way, this is a good place to mention. A big thanks to our friends at elevated integrity construction Aaron Carroll, you're amazing, Check them out at elevated integritycom. And also we're on Patreon at river radiocom slash rivalry. So there's that too. Let's jump to present day. So we go through every single game every week of the season and you alluded to this already, roy, but all eyes are kind of on that last Saturday in November, looking at the Ohio state team that you've got right now, present day, looking at Michigan. I don't know how much you watch them, or don't watch them. No, I watch, but I figured you might watch. What is it going? What are you looking for what? Let me put it from a Buckeye perspective. What will it take for Ohio state, where they're at right now, to beat Michigan and Ann Arbor at the end of November?
Speaker 3:Short yardage offensive line play Like. That's where I'm looking right now in the trenches, not so much on the defensive line. I think our defensive line is doing a great job of getting pressure on the quarterback, which is why you're starting to see interceptions from defensive backs. You see linebackers making a bunch of plays. The sacks aren't up from a number standpoint but those guys are putting so much heat on those guys and quarterbacks now are trained to get rid of the ball rather quickly. So maybe those numbers aren't as high as we have seen them in the past with Nick Bosa and Joey Bosa.
Speaker 3:But up front in the trenches running the football, being able to control the clock is going to be imperative when we play that team up North, specifically because that's what they do. They have built themselves different than every other college football team in America. They have the best offensive line for the last two years. You can argue that, but that's just on paper, like if they've been awarded that, that honor, and so those guys are built for the long haul, which is why over the course of time you know you could come out swinging most.
Speaker 3:Most games, everything's, everybody juiced up that first quarter, that second quarter, but the second half, when you've got guys leaning on you and blocking you and hitting you constantly just, and then you saw it happen last year when the fourth quarter got away from us. So we need to make sure upfront we can do the same when we have the football. We can't just rely on Kyle uh getting the ball to those receivers in open space. We got to be able to run the football. You see what our offense looked like running the football without Travion Henderson uh, who recently missed a game or so. And so when you get you know buying in there and you got chip in there, we got to get behind those big guys and they got to be better pass blockers I mean better run blockers than they are past past block.
Speaker 1:Well, and with the, you know, the big question too is about whether or not the new clock rules. How does that affect things? And it's like it doesn't. It doesn't, but it definitely. It definitely does play a role when you've got a team like Michigan, who I think is like one of the slowest paced offenses in the country.
Speaker 4:What was it last year? In the third quarter they had the ball for one drive for like eight and a half minutes, like almost the entire quarter.
Speaker 1:And that's what, that's what they're built for.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I mean to be able to control the clock and be able to grind guys into the, into the ground there by the time you hit. Third and fourth quarter is going to be is going to be absolutely huge. Um, let me ask you this so, looking across, you know, we kind of zoom out from Michigan, ohio state we look at the college football landscape as a whole right now. Who are the four teams that impress you the most? And again, a lot of this will shake itself out as the season goes on, of course, but we got last year for four playoff teams. Next year expansion is going to be wild. There's a whole bunch of topics on that. What are your?
Speaker 3:who are your four most impressive teams right now for you, so for most impressive versus the four best teams may be a different question. Yeah, give us both then, all right. So impressive, that's impressive. Um, I can't go any further than Colorado. I mean four and two right now. I love it. You have a one victory team and I know everything's been made about Dion, but he's doing it the right way. Um, he's showing a different way of doing things, which I'm all about. But to go four and two right now and you were slotted in in in in Vegas, and all the people who are all the experts said they probably went two or three games to have four already and without their best player and without their best player.
Speaker 3:So impressive, extremely impressive. Number two, washington. I think Washington came out of note. We know they had Michael Pennings Jr. We just didn't know that they were going to be this explosive this early on. Um, their last outing they didn't play, uh, the great football, but this weekend, uh, or soon, they play a Oregon, so you got an Oregon Washington matchup, which is which is interesting, uh. So we'll see how that starts to shake out.
Speaker 1:We are recording this on a Friday, the day before Washington, oregon, so if you're looking back at this going that was stupid, we it hasn't happened yet. Okay, there you go.
Speaker 3:There you go, and so you, you, you have that. And then, um, I think Michigan is extremely impressive right now Doing what they're doing they're, I think, the number two ranked team in the country right now and still running the football and just doing it at will. It's nothing like going up against somebody that you can't stop and there's nothing that you can do about it. So the fact that they've been, you know, they hardball set out for three games or whatever. He was just hanging out on vacation and on his yacht or wherever he does shopping for khakis, whatever he does in his free time.
Speaker 3:but they came together and rallied together and got some experience for those younger coaches, those assistant coaches, to be able to do some things. So that's going to come in handy later down the road as well. Um, and then my fourth team, from an impressive standpoint, I'll just say Georgia, mostly because they're being hunted every single week. So you win these national championships and you know you got. You lose Stetson, bennett and all these different things. But now you're like man, this is kind of getting boring, like we're just so dominant and you can see that in their early play, the first couple of games, but they smacked Auburn when they play Auburn or Kentucky when they play Kentucky, it was a close game, or, but they smacked Kentucky and in Kentucky was running their mouth too. So just the fact that when you're at the top of the mountain and everybody's gunning for you and you're able to stay focused and getting new guys in and reload and still be on top, you got to throw them in there.
Speaker 1:Does that motivate you as a player Cause you know, coming off a national championship. Does that motivate you, knowing that you are getting everybody's best effort, or does it get a little bit? It's kind of it can be a little bit tough to motivate.
Speaker 3:I don't know if it motivates you as much as it does, it hones in your focus. You don't have any any wiggle room to just be average. You know like everybody's giving you their best shot, so you got to be on every single game. You just can't say hey, hey, we're lining up against Missouri, we can beat them, because those guys, if they beat you, it could make their entire season. And you don't want to be those guys on sports center Late at night when you're the guy getting beat for the game, winning touchdown, and you're looking at at the playoffs outside the bubble of a certain like man. What if we had done this Cause? One loss could keep you out, depending on who was against.
Speaker 1:So that's your foremost impressive who at the end of the year and you're you know we're assuming a lot here. That's what we do let's wildly speculate. Let's speculate wildly who give us your four playoff teams? So you want me to prophesy.
Speaker 3:I do Four playoff teams because I'm a Homer. I'm going on house stage. Well, you have to. Let's go Georgia. If I had to pull a team right now out of the pack 12, which was that stuff based on their play and based on, I would probably say, oregon, like that pic and then cause I like USC's offense, but they're different.
Speaker 4:It's terrible, it's terrible.
Speaker 3:So I'm you're looking at Oregon or Washington and then probably that Oklahoma, cause they're playing, they're hot right now. So, you beat, you know you beat Texas, so now they're they're the team coming in five as a tricky potentially can get in as Alabama Cause right now. Everybody wrote them off, everybody wrote off Alabama.
Speaker 3:They lost the Texas and you know they having some quarterback issues. But what you see them is starting to get extremely fundamental and basic in their offense and going back to power football. The quarterback is mobile, he's throwing the football better, so now Alabama's creeping up as well. So if they end up obviously playing in the SCC title game and win that game, they'll be in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, and you've also got the potential of seeing Oklahoma Texas again at the end of the year. Oklahoma could take themselves right back out of it. And so, and that's the fun of college football, and again it it. It will be a different type of fun moving forward when you've got the 12 team expansion. Yeah, but for one last rodeo with four teams, with the national title race. That's probably as wide open as it's been in a very long time.
Speaker 4:This weekend we'll decide some stuff, cause you've got a U S C and. Notre Dame, you have Oregon and Washington.
Speaker 1:Some of these things will take care of themselves. Yeah, that's the beauty of it, I do have another question.
Speaker 4:You talked about this briefly but it feels like we just have to ask. You talked about all the great Ohio state wide receivers that have come through. Sure, what, who's on your Mount Rushmore of Ohio state receivers?
Speaker 3:So number one, chris Carter. Like he's Chris Carter, catching one handed passes without gloves, I mean 1000 yard receiver. Like I mean Chris Carter is. He's the guy, terry Glenn, the only belittling a golf winner ever in Ohio state history. Right now. Now Marvin Harrison Jr Probably will win that award for best receiver in the country, so you definitely have to put him up there. Third, I would probably say Michael Jenkins. I think right now he's still, he still may be first all time in yards for a receiver, um, and I believe he had 2000 yard seasons and then one for maybe seven, 50 or 800. And then that four spot. Uh, it gets a little bit tricky. You know I would probably have three on there. But then I mean you got the likes of Joe. Now it was like, what do you want? I would go. I mean you got Joey Galloway Right, you got, you know, my teammates Ted Andrew, you got Santonia homes, you got Jackson Smith and Jeb who caught 1600 yards in a season, 300 in the game.
Speaker 4:Who knows where he'd be if he played a senior year.
Speaker 3:Garrett Wilson, who was awesome. Chris Olave, who's the all time leader in touchdown receptions, but I'm going with David Boston, oh right, I'm going with David Boston who never gets any love for whatever reason.
Speaker 3:He does it 1400 plus receipt. He had the record for receiving yards in the season up until Jackson broke it. So I'm going with David Boston, chris Carter, terry Glenn and Michael Jenkins. And so you know people can argue, michael Jenkins, but I mean the, the consistency, the big catches. You know, six, five, 215 pounds first round draft pick. I mean what more do you want from a guy? National champion. So I'm throwing him in there for sure.
Speaker 1:I dare you to argue that with Roy, face to face, that's my challenge to you. Roy, we appreciate your time. Tell us where we can find out more about driven foundation. Show them a little bit of love.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for all you guys who are listening awesome listeners you can go to stay drivenorg. Stay drivenorg to find out how you can support and see what we're doing the mission of the driven foundation. And then, personally, if you would love to have me come out and maybe speak to your company or speak to your team or speak to your students, you can go to Roy Hall juniorcom. That's Roy Hall juniorcom. So you got stay drivenorg and Roy Hall juniorcom. Both are opportunities to figure out a way to make your people better and to make a difference in the community.
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