10: Coach Deanna Salles-Freeman - Oola Fun

Episode 10

Date Recorded: May 12, 2023

Title: Coach Deanna Sales-Freeman – Oola Fun

Description: Deanna Salles-Freeman is a speaker, educator, and highly certified coach in multiple disciplines, that brings light and lightness to the heavy topic of trauma.  Her personal journey with intimate partner violence led her to find beauty and laughter in healing.  And today, Deanna dedicates her life to helping others find their laughter after.  

Deanna is a Certified Oola Life Coach, Master NLP Practitioner, Integrative Nutrition Health Coach, an Expert Contributing Health Writer and holds 5 aromatherapy certifications.  

Deanna Salle- Freeman is a life coach that will get you out of a fog so you can live a more purposeful, healthier, and happier life. Her coaching style will leave you feeling like you are enough, that you are seen and you are beautiful.

To reach Deanna, go to https://deannawellness.com/contact-a-life-coach and or you can follow her on Social Media.

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Transcript

Deanna 1:08

Dean Anna

Melinda 1:09

Salas Freeman is a speaker, educator and highly certified coach in multiple disciplines. She brings light and lightness to the heavy topic of. Her personal journey with intimate partner violence led her to find beauty and laughter in healing. And today, Deanna dedicates her life to helping others find their laughter. After Deanna is a certified Oola life coach, master NLP practitioner, integrative nutrition health coach and expert contributing health writer, and holds five aromatherapy certifi. Deanna is a life coach that will get you out of a fog so you can live a more purposeful, healthier, and happier life. Her coaching style will leave you feeling like you are enough that you are seen and you are beautiful. Today. We welcome her to our show to Talk trauma and fun. I am Coach Melinda, and we are here today with Coach Stephanie, my co-host, and a coach with a message of the laughter after. Stephanie and I are excited to have Deanna here with us to share about herself and ULAs the F of fun.

Deanna 2:19

Let's get started.

Stephanie 2:22

Hello, I am coach Stephanie, Melinda and I are on a mission to showcase some of our fabulous Oola life coaches and share their stories. And we are very excited to introduce Deanna Salas Freeman to our listeners today. Welcome Deanna, and thanks for joining us.

Deanna 2:37

Thanks for having me. I'm glad to be. Welcome, welcome. I'm super

Melinda 2:44

fired up to talk to you. Would you like to tell us a little bit about your background and how you came to be a trauma

Deanna 2:50

coach? Sure. So my story kind of starts with, um, after childhood. So a lot of people who experienced trauma usually have some childhood experiences, and while my childhood was not perfect, the trauma that I, Endured was in an abusive relationship, which led into other issues. Um, I was in that relationship for 18 years and I was not the one to exit it. So it was, it's interesting and that's a long journey for people. And if you've been in this situation, you understand how you can. Talk yourself into staying in that situation. But then when we did exit that situation, the person who, the in-law who stepped in to help with my kids also manipulated, introduced drugs to my kids, and I molested my daughter. So the trauma comes from there. And when I hit that rock bottom, and I don't like to dwell on that story because as you guys know and as you introduce me, I am a coach that talks about the laughter after the trauma. And so I come from a place that's healed, right? You speak from your scars and not your wounds. And so I've done a lot of work, in this area and it is what led me into, um, coaching. Mostly what led me into coaching is I needed to be coached. So I started on this journey of trying to sort through this stuff, get the coaching that I needed, get the therapy that I needed. I don't discard therapy, I've done that as well. going through this, I found that the coaching helped me more than the therapy. The therapy helped me identify the areas of triggering, but the coaching really helped me to move forward. And so that's why my mission now is to work with people who have experienced that and, get them to this place where they can start healing and finding themselves again, and finding that laughter again. But that is where my story began, and that is kind of what put me on the journey towards coaching. Wow. That's

Melinda 4:59

true. Like I do believe even coaches need coaches. So can you tell us how you were introduced to Oola and how impactful that was on your life?

Deanna 5:09

So it was introduced to Oola through, some friends of mine. We met them at a conference. we decided to go listen to their talk at a conference. They were doing a keynote and a couple of friends of mine said, Hey, I've heard about these guys. Let's go talk to them. These two friends of mine, they know everything. If there's anybody who can know everything, I guess not everybody knows everything or anybody knows everything, but as much as anybody could, these two friends of mine were by my side through all of this. so they said this, this message I think is good. Let's go. So we decided to go and listen to their keynote, and this was back in 2015. And when I listened to the keynote, the book was fairly new at the time. It only been out a couple of years. I was just floored. I was floored. I mean, you guys know their, the guys, the founders of Oola, their passion and their purpose. Well overrides any other aspect of anything that has to do with business when it comes to coaching. They are very heart-centered and heart led, and I just couldn't believe that even with all the counseling and stuff that I had gotten so far, that they had a message that just opened my eyes and you know, you can have a breakthrough in a moment. Change takes time. But that was an epiphany, that was a literal breakthrough moment for me. So, of course we went and got the book and we got their autographs. I have it in the hard copy book, you know, I still have that. Um, and had them sign the book and I started reading and devouring it and implementing it as best as I could. And then, in 2016, I went to my first Oola Pooja Experie. And that's pretty much what locked everything in. As a matter of fact, I got my integrative nutrition, which is a health and life coaching combo. I got that, certification because I had gotten to meet them a few times at different events. So I had actually spoken with the guys at this point and I was just like, we need coaching. Are you gonna do a coaching certification? And they're like, oh no, that's not even on the radar. so I wanted to. Coach this framework, and so I went and got this certification so that I could coach this framework and implement this framework into a coaching practice. Because at that point, I just knew everybody needed this. If it can help me, it can pretty much help anybody. That's how I felt. I don't think I've had the worst situation in the world. I get that, but where I was at the time, I just felt like if this can start me on a healing journey, then this can help anyone. And it can. And so I started coaching the framework before there was a certification, but, so that certification came very naturally.

Stephanie 8:16

there are so many different types of trauma that people experience and it is such a serious topic, so we definitely wanna be sensitive to that. would you like to share what your definition of trauma is for our listeners? And if anyone out there is experiencing that, what suggestions you

Deanna 8:31

have for. Okay, so first of all, I know that in the realm of clinical definitions of trauma, um, there is trauma you can be diagnosed with and treated for, and they call this trauma with a capital T. And then there is trauma with their lowercase T, which you may not get a clinical diagnosis for, but it still is impacting you. And to me, trauma is trauma. So for me, anyone who has experienced something that cuts them away from alignment with who they truly are or. a situation, you can have something acute. Like, for instance, um, I believe that domestic violence is acute trauma, right? It happens all of a sudden and it's unexpected and it changes things when there's violence. if you have been sexually assaulted, it's a very sensitive topic. It's. You, disconnect and it, it is a sharp, immediate change. You see a definite line in the sand of this is what I was like before. This is what I'm like now. And there's a very sharp demarcation in those places that typically can be diagnosed. Right, you'll get P T S D or C P ts D diagnosis. complex trauma is just simply trauma that happens over a long period of time. So those areas are all areas in which trauma can be diagnosed. But the truth of the matter is that we internalize things. Everyone internalizes things differently. So how you took your discipline as a child from your parent could be internalized different than even your sibling, and could be a basis of trauma. the fact is that none of us really escaped life without it. We really don't. And so to be sensitive to it when you know that there's some. Situation that has happened, and that's an area that I work in, is important. But to understand that all of us have gone through things and all of us have to reparent ourselves as adults so that the voice that we're listening to starts telling us the truth and not what we believed as kids growing up or what we believed in abusive relat. That we had to have to protect ourselves and we have to work that part out. And that's where the coaching comes in because the coaching will help identify where that sits and then it will help you to process through it. Right? We can't change things that we don't confront, and these are areas that are sensitive. So you have to have compassion and you have to have, you know, kindness and you have to create space to allow people to move through. It takes a little bit, but it's definitely worth it. Yeah, it's

Stephanie 11:41

sounds like it's such impactful and important

Deanna 11:43

work that you're doing

Stephanie 11:45

I was wanting you to share with our listeners, more about your coaching style

Deanna 11:49

and why

Stephanie 11:51

you have dedicated yourself to help those who have suffered and survived and have come through on

Deanna 11:55

the other. Okay, so my coaching style, and I'll get into that a little bit more cuz I didn't really answer that. Obviously there's a lot of compassion space and grace inside of my coaching practice. My coaching sessions tend to go a little bit longer than a typical coaching session because when you're dealing with trauma you actually have to sit in silence for a little bit. You know, you actually have to let that person really come to terms with the part of themselves. That needs to heal. But I also like to incorporate elements of fun into my coaching practice. one of the things that when I do my, assessment, my life assessment, my Oola wheel, When I look at my life assessment, even in the lowest of times, fun was not a spot that was the lowest. I mean, it did get low, but it was not the lowest ever. And the reason why is I had the people around me and the support around me that allowed me to take that time and invest it in myself. And ultimately, I think that's what. what I do in my practice is I create some mindful fun, right? Like on purpose, whether it's about journaling or doodling or tapping into a hobby, something you love to do as a kid, we explore these areas because for me, when I was at the lowest of low doing things like hula hooping or. Roller skating just brought me back to a place of freedom and a place of liberation. And when you start to remember those feelings, you start to remember who you were. You start to come back into your body. And trauma is a thing that kind of separates you, right? You start to detach. So this is something that allowed me to come back into that space and start to go, oh, okay, I remember what this feels like. And then you start moving forward, remembering that feeling and going, okay, well how can I create that feeling in my life? What are things that I can do every day that creates that feeling in my life? Even if it's 10 minutes in the morning, what is it? Is it uh, an adult coloring? What is it? And we find those spaces and we'll practice those things sometimes in sessions so that they can explore. So it's providing them with the tools that they need to tap into those areas.

Melinda 14:48

you are the paradigm of the laughter after. let's talk about. Fun in the way that there's big time, fun being your bucket list, fun and then your everyday fun. I'm great myself with a big time fun, but I really struggle with the, the everyday fun and I struggle. Mm-hmm. I think sometimes because people are on social media, Pacing their pictures out there of their everyday fun. And it gives me a false idea of what everyday fun should be for myself. And so then, yeah, I, I listen to myself instead of listening to the truth in my head. I, yeah. So let's talk about

Deanna 15:24

that a little bit. Okay. So first, I love this question because, um, number one, what you see out on social media, Is faith. People aren't showing you the other side of that. They're showing you the things they're doing. Yeah. I went and had lunch with my friends today, or I did this, or I did that, or I'm on this amazing trip and that's great. But they're only showing you the highlights. Right? We're seeing that. I I like to look at it like the iceberg. Right. And all of this stuff is underneath. I mean, look, I can, my background's blurred out. I can un blur it here cuz we're on Zoom. But you, you know, my wall is, And it's got these words, but if I turn it around and you saw my whole desk, it's not pretty. It's not pretty. You know, this is real life. And so what I encourage people to do is if you see something that someone is doing and it inspires you, great. That's telling you something. That's a message that you're receiving that says, I need more. I need some fun in my life. I need something, right? If you are looking at stuff and it's making you miserable and feeling like a failure, then you need to stop looking at it because you're only looking at the highlights anyway. Okay? But the thing that I work with my clients with to have everyday fun is to find out the things that you really like. Like for me, nature is a big deal. I had a post yesterday. I have a morning ritual that I. And it's always includes meditation, breath work, stretching. But yesterday the sun was out, it was breezy and I like to get time in nature. And so yesterday morning I specifically added that to my morning ritual and I went and sat on my back porch and face the sun. And just soaked in the sun with no glasses, just taking on the benefit of being in nature, listening to the natural sounds. It literally was 15 minutes of my day. Anybody can do this. Anybody has 15 minutes, and after you sit outside in the nature, the sun made me feel good. I had the birds. It was a breeze. I did my meditation, my breath work, and I was like, all right. You know, it just sets your tone for the rest of the. It changes your attitude. You tap into this attitude of gratitude, and that's part of my five keys for healing, right? You have to have that. You have to have that gratitude. So find the things that you enjoy. If your morning coffee and journaling is the thing that you enjoy, then that's your fun, right? That's your everyday. And so create something that will allow you to ritualistically. Have that and tap into that. Doesn't have to be morning. There's no rules. Just find it and do it. And if it's 15 minutes, good. If it's an hour and you have an hour, great. Just find it and do it.

Melinda 18:35

Is it fair to say that people should maybe take a look at their past passions and pull from that and find different ways to have fun again in life? Like what if you've stalled and you're no longer the one having fun? How do you jumpstart yourself?

Deanna 18:51

Right. A absolutely. So for me, that's kind of where I was like, I would have some little small things of fun and I wasn't really myself. And I'm a, I'm a person who likes to have fun, right? I have to make sure that I keep it in check. Okay? Um, I call myself Mary Poppins. You know, I feel like in every job there is to be done. If you incorporate an element of fun, the job becomes a game, right? So I'm like that. So I, that's, that's kind of always how I was. And I got to this place where I was just doing. And not being myself in that. And so what I did was when I realized that, through coaching really after looking at things through Alza, that first time and when I started working to get back to myself, I realized, no, I need to have this. And so I still to this day explore new ways, right? I go, what were things that I liked to do? How did I act when I was a kid? It's the best way to. What are the things you liked when you were a kid? Did you like to read novels and stay in your room, go pick up a novel? Did you like to play outside? Go play outside. Ain't nobody stopping you from playing, right? Did you do you need to be around kids so you have an excuse to play? Well, go pick up your nieces, your nephews, your, your kids, your grandkids, where whoever's around you tap into it, right? You have the things you need and your circle. You need to think about what are those things that used to bring you fun. Now for me, I used to always love being not only being around a lot of people, I love dancing, I love music. So what I started doing was I took out my tap shoes. I keep them under my desk at this point, and I said, oh, you know what? I am going to see if I can remember the choreography from a tap. And I'm just, you know, in my living room, probably messing up my floors, whatever. That sounds fun, right? But I grew up dancing from the, from the time that I could walk, uh, I owned a dance studio. I taught at other dance studios. That was fun for me. Why did I stop doing that? You stopped doing it because you become so detached from who you are. So you have to look back and find those little things that brought you joy. And pull them forward in whatever way you can. In little ways, I don't care if it's dancing in your living room, blasting the music and singing in your car. There are things that you did that brought you joy and you can find them and do them every day. And are you someone

Melinda 21:36

that has a bucket list of bigger

Deanna 21:38

things for fun? Um, yeah. So my biggest bucket list thing, uh, is always. And so, you know, I've done a lot of travel. I've done a lot of traveling that filled my bucket list. My next bucket list item is, um, national parks. I've done more travel outside of the US than inside of the us so I have decided that maybe I should explore my own territory. So National Parks is on the list. One of my biggest, biggest bucket list items. And here's a way you can look at this. Um, obviously through all of this trauma, it definitely impacted our family, not just my immediate family, my extended family. There were some just trauma triggers, anger, resentment, breakdown in our connection, and we are very close-knit family normally. And so there were a few years that went by where our family had dispersed. We were disconnected, people were fighting, and there was anger. And that was a big part of what I wanted to heal. And um, as you set goals at the end of your year when you're looking and you're reviewing, um, I put this goal on my list, right? And it was to have Sunday dinner. I went to Sunday dinner at my grandparents every single Sunday from ever till after I was married. And I found that one of my grandparents, my grandmother in particular, was a very matriarchal glue. And I said, this is, this is who I need to become to create the healing that I need in my family. And so my goal was to start these, this tradition in our immediate family for Sunday. I tried for three years, it took me to make this goal happen. finally with the work we've done with the open communication, with me being able to actually openly communicate with my children so that even their ties became closer to each other, we were able to accomplish this. And now for about a year and a half, almost two years now, we've been doing. This what we call dinner, not dinner. It's become a thing because we, we meet between lunch and dinner and uh, once a month we do this and they're expecting it. The grandkids expect it. It has become a tradition, and like I said, it took a while, but this was something for me that I knew would be healing just in the process of doing. So you ha again, you have to just get creative. This was a bucket list item of mine that happened. It didn't have to do with travel, but it definitely has to do with fun. It takes care of family as well, which is another F. So it is about really when we look at these areas of our lives, it's not fix one, fix one, fix one. It's not, they're not separate. This is family and fun together. And when I put this family in front together, it really taps into what the, my why, my hub, where I operate from, which is legacy. And that all comes together in harmony. So that's how I look at balance, right? Cuz some people have the wrong view of balance. They think balance means equal everything, and that that's not what it means. Some people think balance means static because you know, if you're balancing on a seesaw, you have to be like, But no, it really isn't that. It is about creating harmony. I'm naturally good at fun, so how do I use that to incorporate it and infuse it in the other things so I can be good at it? It makes me a lot better at field because, you know, and I still haven't figured out how to incorporate into finances, but I'm working on it. You need to let us know if you

Stephanie 25:41

figure that out.

Melinda 25:42

You did talk a little bit about goals and a little bit about fields. So what are some of the goals you have in work and life right now for yourself?

Deanna 25:51

All right, so for myself right now, I am actually transitioning my field into something that is more evergreen. So that is a big goal of mine, is to, work smart. So I want to be able to impact more. So speaking is on that radar. So that is something I definitely wanna do. I've done it quite a bit, but not on the scale that I want. So it's scaling it to the size that I want. a book is on my radar, so I started that and I am working on just kind of how I wanna outline it. The five keys that I use for healing, I wanna incorporate that and, how I incorporate that into the system and the program of the Oola framework. So it kind of expands on it a little bit. that's field goals for me right now. just, you know, passive income through the ambassador program. So that's just kind of getting wrapped into it a little bit.

Melinda 26:52

Well, I love that. Best of luck with all of

Deanna 26:54

that. Thank you. What are you passionate about? I think my biggest passion is making sure that my family understands that they don't have to repeat cycles. And I'm passionate for other people to understand that too. That's why my coaching goes into that. one of my biggest passions is to create a program. I I wanna fund a program, so I wanna get my. Feel to a place where I can fund and initiate a program that pours into the parents of child sexual abuse victims. There's a lot of guilt and shame associated with that, and most of the programs that are out there really give their attention amazingly to the victim. They support the family as a whole to help maybe get the perpetrator out of their. But there is no ongoing program for those parents, and a lot of times the moms bear that the most, and there is no real programs out there. So ultimately having this residual income building this where I can scale it a little bit more is going to allow me to have the expendable. And the time to become what I would like to be a six figure giver to programs that support this well, I still can actually give back to me my family as well. That's

Melinda 28:29

awesome.

Stephanie 28:31

we are asking all the coaches on our show some questions similar to the Pist questionnaire, which has its origins in a parlor game popularized by Marcel Pist a French essayist and novelist who believe that in answering these questions, an individual reveals his or

Deanna 28:48

her true nature.

Stephanie 28:51

Are you ready for some of these questions?

Deanna 28:53

Surprise? Yes, sure.

Stephanie 28:55

Go for it. So, okay, question one. Please tell us something in your life that has grown out of a personal

Deanna 29:01

disaster or challenge. all I can think of that's grown out of the biggest personal disaster in my life is my coaching business. It really is. I mean, I think that that mess got turned into a message and now has become a passion. And I, I think that's probably the biggest disaster in my life, really.

Stephanie 29:22

so our next question is, when and where

Deanna 29:25

were you the happiest you've ever been? Hmm. I think the happiest I ever was as of today. Uh, there's so many occasions that I can name, but I'm gonna tell you two. one is a collective experience. But watching my grandkids being born is probably some of the most amazing experiences I've had. especially with my daughter being her doula, even though I'm not a certified doula. But that's the role I played for her, as her coach, her assistant. And the second is, when I married my second husband, it was such an ease and so different from the prior relationship. We got married on a streetcar in New Orleans. We did not book it. Our wedding was super, super small. We paid for everybody to get on the streetcar. We had justice of the peace and, Yeah, all the visitors and Orleans that day were taking tons of pictures. We should have totally given him our hashtag. yeah, that was it. We just jumped on a streetcar. We got married, we celebrated and had the people that mattered the most with us. It was great fun. That sounds wonderful.

Stephanie 30:39

that's just a creative way to do it

Deanna 30:40

too. I like that. Yeah, we had a Plan B just in case, but the streetcar driver was super, super nice. I had bought a big bag of Hershey's kisses and a card to thank him with a little tip in it. And, so as we were taking pictures, while people were boarding my brother-in-law's a photographer, he was taking our pictures in front of the streetcar and we kissed in front of the streetcar. And after we paid for everybody to get on the streetcar, we got on and we told him what was happening and he said, well, I'm gonna need some kisses. And I said, Actually, and I gave him the bag of kisses and I said, we'd just appreciated it. If it's okay if we can just occupy the back of the car. He said, do what you want. Nice. I was like, okay. So that was, that. It was meant to be. a neat part of that story just to add to it. my husband and I went to high school together. Well, we went to junior high school and high school together, but we became best friends in high school and our high school was on the streetcar. So the reason we picked that was because we used to take it to school. Sometimes we'd wind up on the streetcar doing whatever, and so we wound up saying are I dues and kissing in front of our old school? Aw. Just the way the timing of it worked out,

Melinda 31:54

wet relationship defines love for you. It could be real

Deanna 31:57

or fiction. Oh, okay. I would say a mother daughter relationship defines love for me, and that is true with my mother and my grandmothers. The women in our family are kind of strong women, so that's beautiful. That defines love. And

Melinda 32:19

what person, place, or experience has shaped you the

Deanna 32:22

most? I would say it's a person. my grandmother, my, my paternal grandmother who I spoke about earlier is probably. The person who's had the biggest impact or shaped me the most in, how I wanna be. She was a very open and accepting person. And, if you were around us, you were family. And she, like I said, she was the glue, that kept everything going. If she had an expectation, everybody just wanted to make sure they. But she never met a stranger. I mean, her hairstylist at age 90 asked to do her makeup for her funeral and her hair for free because she loved her. You know what I mean? Like everybody just did, you know? That's just how it was. So, um, and there was just some energy about her, and that's, that's what I want. That's what I hope I'm, I'm replicating to some degree.

Stephanie 33:23

So the last of the purist questions. what advice would you give to your younger

Deanna 33:27

self? I think the biggest advice I would give to my younger self is to not stress. You don't have to be perfect. That was a place where I live for a long time. and that, you know, all of that stressing and striving. And really, you're gonna be fine. You're gonna be fine without it. And I did some hypnotherapy and, um, it was very enlightening on that, on that vein, you know, understanding that you did what you had to do, but then you still are okay. And I think that would be the biggest message for myself is not to be so hard on. That's a good message for everybody.

Stephanie 34:18

do you have a favorite quote or motto that you

Deanna 34:21

like to share with us that you live by or it's important to you? So I have a saying that I say to everyone, and it is not a quote, it's my quote, I guess it's, I'm quoting me. And that quote is that I see you and you are be. I say this at the end of everything. I say it at the end of my shows, I say it at the end of my emails. I say it to my clients, I see, I see you and you might not believe it right now, but you are beautiful. And I live by that. I think that's every person. I don't care who you are. I don't care what you did. I say it even to the people who have harmed me. I wish you healing. I don't need them in my life. But there were aspects of that person or those people that I saw that were good at some point. And I wish you healing. You know? So I see you. You are beautiful. That's it.

Microphone Array (Intelr Smart Sound Technology for Digital Microphones) 35:32

would you share with us how you have gratitude for the past trauma you have?

Deanna 35:37

my trauma came to me as an adult. that first Oola Palooza that I went to, and I was told that, you know, you had to have gratitude and everything, the good, the bad, and the ugly. gratitude was a massive blocker for me, which is not a blocker. It's supposed to be an accelerator. And the thing is, I found out that even though I considered myself to be grateful, I was grateful for things that were good. It's easy to be grateful for things that are good. I mean, you know, but how can you be grateful for the things that are hard or the things that are not good? The things where you've been enacted upon. And, for no reason. Like I don't care what you do, you don't deserve those things. And I couldn't do it. it took me an entire year I took that year and said, I'm gonna find my way to it. And. The gratitude that came out of it was really being able to dig deep and understand where that came from. I think we all learn from what we go through and we all can grow from what we go through if we decide to confront it. And so when I was going through that, I was grateful for the fact that I was able to learn how to forgive. I was able to learn how to understand what that really. Because I had to go through forgiveness to get to gratitude. I realized that mostly what I was feeling was my guilt for failing to protect my children. That's ultimately where it came from, and moving through that was probably a much greater. But because I worked on this, I was able to talk with my kids. I am so grateful because if I hadn't gone through that year and I hadn't been held to, you have to be grateful. We might not be connected the way we are. Our family vacation that we took for the first time in years in February, may not have happened. So yeah, that, that, that gratitude was huge.

Stephanie 37:43

We are also asking all the coaches on our show if they've ever taken the Enneagram test and for anyone else they're unfamiliar. The Enneagram is a system of personality typing that describes patterns and how people interpret the world and manage their emotions. So Deanna, have you ever taken one of these tests and if so, do you know your

Deanna 38:01

results? Yes, I have. I am an Enneagram seven and, there. what like, Wings that you can have in the Enneagram. I haven't dove super deep into it, but I have taken every personality test there is. I am like a personality junkie, so I have Myers Briggs, I have the Colby, I have the Clifton strengths. I, yeah, I mean, I forget what they're all called. I've taken so many of them. Okay. But I am in the Enneagram. I am a seven, but my wings were very equal. As a matter of fact, the person I was working with at the time, I, I said, I don't know if I'm a wing six or a wing eight. I mean, like sometime like in my test, they were very equal and she said, oh, which one do you think fits you the most? And I said, probably the six swings a little bit more to my reality and what I believe. And she said, the Enneagram quiz is subjective, so you get to. You know, if that is the right fit, that's why we request that you read it all and whatever. So I would say then I am a seven wing six. Sometimes I'm a seven wing eight, but most of the time it's a six. Um, and I think you can tell by my personality already that that makes very much sense. Seven is right where I am, the enthusiast. I am always excited. I have very, um, adhd, so my focus is not. If we don't have fun in it, I don't wanna do it. It's all exactly what a seven is. I mean, when they start putting up the types and then, and, and saying, oh, well this is the books you'd read, or This is what you'd be like on vacation. I'm like, yep. Yep.

Stephanie 39:51

What is the Wing six? You wanna expand

Deanna 39:54

on that a little bit? I don't really remember what The Wing is. But I can probably pull up a six, because, My husband is a five wing six, so we kind of meet on the, on the six line. let me see what the six is and I'll tell you real quick, the skeptic. Yes, that's makes sense. So, and that, that's an, that's another thing, you know, with the, with the six is, you know, like I don't, as much as I am able to be spontaneous, I don't do it. Evaluating. Like I, I do think doing things through and I like, you know, to kind of know what I'm getting into and I think naturally I'm pretty intuitive. So the skepticism comes in, I think there too, you know?

Melinda 40:41

Is there anything else that you wanna share with our

Deanna 40:43

listeners? I guess the only thing that I would encourage all of your listeners toward is to not be afraid to reach. And get whatever assistance you need. I don't if it's, if, if it's trauma and you need coaching, great. If it's coaching here with anybody else, you've heard, great. Reach out. Find somebody that fits and have somebody that walk alongside of you. None of us do this alone, and you're gonna find out that we are more alike and different. even though we all have different personalities and we have unique talents and gifts, we all kind of fundamentally we want the same. And, you know, we wanna be happy, we wanna have a fulfilled life, we wanna have security, we want our families. This is something that, it seems like you shouldn't need to be coached through, but because we all go through these things, I think everybody needs coaching. I just think everybody needs it. And the people who recognize it are the people who are thriving and successful. So take a look and just know. you have people that are ready to be on your side, that's all. Agreed.

Melinda 41:51

I really enjoyed this episode and I can't thank you enough for tackling the tough topic of trauma with our listeners.

Deanna 42:00

I wanted to thank you guys for letting, letting me come on here and talk and share, you know, I enjoyed it a lot and I appreciate you guys for, you know, highlighting and showcasing the coaches. That's awesome.

Melinda 42:10

thank you. Great. Great. Thank you for coming on. Yeah, it was great. we learned that trauma can be many things and it's about how your body experiences those things. And I believe there is a flame inside of all of us, and the more we embrace life, the more we will see it grow bigger and brighter. You're right. We all deserve to be happy and we can make it happen if we are willing to do the work. We can't forget to have the fun along the way Before we part ways. We would like to let our listeners know that our next episode will showcase coach Janelle Meyer and the topic of the Oola Accelerator Gratitude. You don't wanna miss the first episode to highlight the accelerators of Oola and how they can help you grow the flame that ignites. And I'd like to remind you, we are all designed by God for greatness and with purpose. And we wanna truly thank Deanna for taking her time to share about herself and Oola fun. It has been a real pleasure. Until next time, stress less, feel better, and enjoy life a little more. Bye now.