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#87 State Wrestling Brackets with Coach Chris Gennrich, Official Steve Skarda and The Wisconsin Grappler!
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Wrestling Podcast Discussion
Speaker 15 . 6 .
Speaker 2And we are live . We are back for another episode of the Vision Quest podcast . We are joined , man . It's been a while since I've had you here , wisconsin grappler , so we got Wisconsin grappler here . We got coach Hortonville , wrestling head coach Chris Gennrich . Thank you very much , chris for taking time out of your schedule .
Speaker 2Appreciate it . And we got the dude that's on vacation this coming weekend here . He's not even refing at the state , the state tournament . We have official Steve Skarta joining us , so thank you very much for joining in with us . I wanted to have yeah , I wanted to have kind of an eclectic kind of group to be able to have a mix of opinions and thoughts and , like you know , a coach sees something different . You know rankings , guys looking at the numbers , even though you are coaching at the same time . So there's that . And then there's just stupid old me , the guy that's screaming up in the stands . You know that's making a fool of himself and making refs wonder why they show up every day . But yeah , so we are going to talk , we're going to talk a little bit . What's that ?
Speaker 4It is definitely for the entertainment value .
Speaker 2Perfect , perfect . So we are going to talk about brackets folks . Now I know that Tegh and Steve are going to be doing something eventually here too , but those guys go way more in depth than we do . We're going to do kind of a quick rundown . We have special matches that we're kind of looking at . There's some ranked guys that are coming up . Coach , I know you got some guys that are going to be down at state . So I know we want to talk about those guys a little bit , see what's going to happen with them , and then , you know , once in a while we're going to be having some questions about , you know , like rules and things like that . I know there's some new ones this year . Maybe we got to clarify a little bit , because I have questions . But then we got the numbers guy who can say , hey , that guy's actually ranked here but he's seated here . I think that's kind of weird . So let's get ready to go .
Speaker 2I'll start off here . We're going to go 106 D3 , right , a couple of very familiar names that I hear everybody kind of talking about Blake Underwood's , the two seed I got them pulled up over here . Folks , I wish I could share the screen with you , but I would just take up too much room on the screen . Blake Underwood's the two seed we have in Grunfelder , number one . I'm interested in that becoming a real matchup . I'm pretty sure it will not throw in any shade and any guys that are out there , but these guys are pretty , pretty prolific . I mean 51 and one , 50 and one . I think that's going to happen for the most part . I don't know what your thoughts are there , chris , on that matchup , but it seems pretty clear cut .
Speaker 5Yeah , I was just looking up a little bit . You know I'm not real well versed in all the D3 guys . But that Grunfelder , his only loss is to number four , Bruno Cassiopeia at Illinois . Oh , nice .
Speaker 2So that tells you . Yeah , it tells you something right there .
Speaker 5Yeah , who's Underwood's the one lost to .
Speaker 6It was Johnson last week .
Speaker 5Oh , okay , and he beat Johnson earlier , so they have a split . Okay , all right .
Speaker 2Okay , so that will be interesting in Grunfelder . I mean that the Cassiopeia loss , that's a that's a solid loss .
Speaker 5And that was only five to two , I mean . So , oh really , yeah , yeah , I think was that the Cassiopeia just took second .
Speaker 2I think he took second on Illinois .
Speaker 5I didn't . I didn't check the final results on Illinois .
Speaker 2Lost a noble yeah .
Speaker 6Yeah , that was probably a handsome guy actually .
Speaker 2I know , right , yeah , all right , so we'll hop right to 113 on D3 . Jake Fitzpatrick , drew Dolphin . So I always tell Tegue to vote or not vote , but pick with his heart . That's kind of where I'm going on this one . Because Drew Dolphin I mean I've made a comment , his mom posted something , had said something and he was in it and I said maybe we'll get lucky . No , it was when Tegue was doing his nine hours of nonstop joy Wrestling sexual bragging .
Speaker 2That was fantastic . I said I hope we get the opportunity to see Drew in a really cool pinning position where he can pose for the camera . So we're down Wisconsin red and he was wrestling . He had a kid in a light cradle and then he put his hand in his head like this and he was like smiling for the camera . It's kind of fun . Hey Steve , what are you ? What's the situation like that for you on the mat , if someone's doing that ?
Speaker 4If a kid's posing .
Speaker 2Yeah , if he's doing something kind of not wrestling , he's just kind of showing off what's that ? What does that do for you ?
Speaker 4It depends . Well , it doesn't depend For me . I prefer they act like they've done this before . Yeah . Okay , and you know you got him in a light cradle . You try to finish it off , but posing can be considered taunting .
Speaker 2Really .
Speaker 4Okay .
Speaker 2So Drew take it easy .
Speaker 4Yeah , so you're . You know , technically you're showing up somebody .
Speaker 2Sure , sure , oh yeah , yeah , totally , and at that moment he definitely was . At that point in time that was what was happening , correct . So that's kind of my picks on that . I know I hate to go against Corrie and Law with Fitsie , but I got some long history with the Dolphin family so I'm going with Drew
Wrestling Rankings and Match Analysis
Speaker 2on that one . There's some other notables that are in there . I know Gavin Stark . He's been doing okay . He said what ? Five losses as a freshman ? It's pretty good . You know what are you looking at , chris on there .
Speaker 5I was just kind of looking at , I'm just looking at Dolphin . I remember I saw his only loss at the on the water finals to Ethan Bast of West Bend .
Speaker 4Yes , that was a good match .
Speaker 5Yeah , it was six to five it was . It was a great match , came right down to the end . So you know , I haven't seen much of just because you know much of Fitzpatrick , but yeah , so that match comes to fruition , that that could be exciting .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , for sure , for sure . Another notable that I saw in here another softball , only six losses was Lucas Orloff . Where's is he ranked on years ?
Speaker 6Yeah , I believe . So what is it ?
Speaker 2Six .
Speaker 6Nice .
Speaker 2Nice . So his seating is is fairly close and hopefully we can see him on the podium too . So shout out to Lucas . So I was really impressed with that record . Next we'll jump to D3 120 . And while there's the obvious , right on top , there's Koji Campbell . I honestly it's hard . Is he wrestling ?
Speaker 5for his third this year . Did he win it ? Yes , yes .
Speaker 2He's wrestling for his third . And again , I don't mean shade on any of these other kids , but Koji's just he's been around forever and watching , watching him grow up , and just hard to be like . Nah , you know , flee , you would be a good match . I would definitely like to see that matchup . I just think Koji's got it . That's just kind of where it's at you know .
Speaker 6Yeah , I mean when Ling looked good at . The only time I saw him was that the Shabuigan North was Herb Tyler .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , and he looked really good .
Speaker 6He beat Mueller out there .
Speaker 2Okay , what was the score you remember Like ?
Speaker 6five oh okay , okay . Wow , but solid win , yeah , it was very , very good .
Speaker 2I think he's beat him .
Speaker 6I think it's two and one against Mueller this year , but he's not Koji .
Speaker 2Well , maybe that top four can make a make a good little matchup . We'll see what we can find out here coming up on Thursday . Chris , what do you got out of that one ?
Speaker 5I look at the the Crandon kid there , the fifth seed doing . We see Crandon on the water .
Speaker 2Amazing yeah .
Speaker 5They're , they're . They got some really good wrestlers in that lineup .
Speaker 2What about the Crandon ? Those guys do have some .
Speaker 5I believe I heard they have oh I don't know four or five guys with a hundred wins and a couple guys with 150 . Yeah . Wow Okay .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 5Oh yeah . Yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah , one of them just just popped up for two of them . Actually , I think I shared them .
Speaker 5Yeah , I think is it . Is it Glinsky ? I think yes , elias Glinsky . Yeah , um Ski Was . I mean Nolan Ski , but who you know pretty tough for me , yeah . And he scrapped . He scrapped with Nolan on the water was a one or two point match and we opened the gap a little bit at the Pulaski invite . But yeah , no , they're tough . Okay , we see you doing .
Speaker 2We see you , mason . Okay , um , what ? What were some interesting matches you saw this year , steve ? What were some of the better matches that you were able to ref this year ? Yeah , you can be opinionated , it's okay .
Speaker 4I didn't do a lot of of uh high school stuff .
Speaker 2No .
Speaker 4So , no , I , I well , I did . I did probably 12 dates , but oh , did you know , I do mostly tournaments , a couple of tournaments , and then I did some duels that were uh , this , this was , this was interesting , for all the wrong reasons . I rubbed I , I rubbed a duel me that ended up in a tie .
Speaker 2Yup and uh it was a come on Criteria , though , right .
Speaker 4Correct , but it was , it was . It was so far down the list because you're parsing for fits in this and that , and yeah , it was like 31 , 31 or 30 , 30 . And oh my God . Criteria K . And both coaches are just standing there like don't you know this by heart . I'm like no , I don't .
Speaker 2You're the best dude out there . How do you not know this ? Come on , steve , I don't think anybody can keep them straight . No .
Speaker 3I doubt it when I see that a duel that's coming close .
Speaker 5I get the rulebook out . I get my manager Get that rulebook out and find the page . That's what .
Speaker 4I know the first one unsportsmanlike and and and flagrant misconduct . That's one eight , that's the first one . I would say that I need to go to the rule .
Speaker 6That's most wins , and then yeah . Yeah , that's by who I'm a pinfalls , and how many all the way down to like first point school tax and majors , yeah who ?
Speaker 2yeah , we had that . We had that down in a . It was a duel we had just with kids and we want to be in the Cassiope's team by criteria it was like criteria H or something like that and go all the way down that list .
Speaker 4You know , you know , for me it's some of the interest the Well . Tuesday night I had a match where the one kid was just Handling the kid . Yeah . And all of a sudden he gets it . You know the other kid gets to take down , comes back , ends up pinning him , he and he was up big , he had all . Yeah , just like .
Speaker 6Yep , yeah , I know the match .
Speaker 2You know you did , oh , yeah , okay . Okay , I see where we're going . You're Zach , yeah .
Speaker 4I mean .
Speaker 2Yeah , well , it's the end of the season , you know that's . The other thing too is like that . That was the one thing that kind of sticks out in my head with when it comes like rankings and things like that one . Now we're at this point of the season . Guys can be ranked whatever they want to be ranked at this point , I mean , obviously it matters once you put them on a bracket or trying to put them on a bracket , but once they're in there , like you're , you're one , two , three , four , five . That that shit doesn't matter anymore , you know so it's .
Speaker 2It's been interesting to watch these just these last couple of weeks alone , just to see the outcomes and the names that are popping up . But so we're on D3 126 . Yes , we got me on the bottom and then we got under up on top . So here's another one Isaiah Sanchez . Put around those Sanchez brothers for a while . You know that's a , that's a good little group of guys . But you know , honestly , knowing the onzer power and the speed , I , I'm going to go on the number one , but I want to put Isaiah Sanchez somewhere .
Speaker 6Number two that's a yeah , but he's kind of what I wanted to lose the Mies for a fifth last year . Yeah , so he got six last year and Mies got fifth .
Speaker 2I mean , I like third , third . Sorry for Sanchez .
Speaker 5I see that's where he's ranked right now is third .
Speaker 2Is it ? Well , I don't like that .
Speaker 5That's a great family .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , totally , Totally . What five , five boys that are wrestling at the same time ?
Speaker 2Yeah , that's crazy I don't know how you balance all that . That's crazy . Like we have Liam and that's fine , I'm good on that , you know . And then then you got all these families that are in wrestling . Then baseball season comes around , then they're traveling around for baseball for six months . It's like you guys , it never ends the DeGroots . That's another one Point . You know , 20 kids . They don't have 20 kids . Sorry , degroots , but so I got . I got on their number one . I would like to put Sanchez number two . I'd love to see him get there . I don't think he's going to beat on there .
Speaker 6Yeah , let's see . You know he beats on the right . He's looking to win it .
Speaker 2I know right . No I know , but that's where I'm at Mies number two , I'd like to see Sanchez take third , though . That'd be great , that'd be great . That's where I'm at when . What are you ? What are you picking ? I you're sitting over and not saying anything . You're the one who puts the numbers together .
Speaker 6You know you got a bugger . Yeah , I mean , I answer has been having a great season . I don't see anybody stopping him . No , like he's just a little bit of little notch above all these kids .
Speaker 2Oh , I'll throw out . I'll throw out a little sun towards , towards Finley . I'll give him , I'll give him a little again , bring him into the mix a little bit , maybe .
Speaker 6Maybe him and Sanchez battle it out a little bit , yeah he was a late bloomer on my rankings , like I did not put him until probably three weeks ago . I just Sanchez happened Upon him .
Speaker 2Sanchez won't see him anyways On the other side of the bracket . So , yeah , sanchez has to beat under once again to even see that . But that's that's where I'm at . I got my top three on that one .
Speaker 6Yes , three . Oh . Last time you wrestled that , finley wrestled me , so it's three . Oh , so it's not a blowout . So if you can get past to Lez , it could be a good semi .
Speaker 2It was bird right on . All right coach . What do you got ?
Speaker 5I don't know a lot of those guys in that bracket . Like I said , I'm pulling for Sanchez . You know , I realized as deck stacked against him there at , you know , in that semi final match probably . But you know I've done some privates with those boys and seen him at at aviators growing up , so I'd like to see him pulling upset and make the finals .
Speaker 2But that'd be sweet . Yeah , I know I'd high five in the hallway , that's for sure . So we got . Next . We got D3 132 . We have Hunter Stevens . I've heard the name a couple of times but I haven't seen him wrestle . But we got Mason carpenter on top . I know Mason's all right , right , but I think I think Hunter Stevens is the means to take it . So I'm pulling for Hunter Stevens on that one . I'm going to go on the underdog side . The other guy that I do know and that I've heard a lot about is Carter Burtishaw . It's a From my leader .
Speaker 2Yes , yep , I know that he's not a not a slow cheater , especially a 41-4 for a freshman . Yeah , that's why we get pumping out some dudes .
Speaker 5Yeah , they've got a good team . They're a good team .
Speaker 2They went , they went to where they went to Florida .
Speaker 6What yeah yeah Some Scott Bill Scott tournament or something like that Really .
Speaker 2Yeah , see , were you reffing down at that one in Florida .
Speaker 4No , I was at the on the water with Chris .
Speaker 2Yeah , oh , okay . Okay , I didn't know if you were getting vacation spots for reffing now , I don't know .
Speaker 4I'm working on that .
Speaker 2You're yeah , you're on like the gold watch type , like a movement right now with reffing . You're kind of getting all the . You can kind of pick and choose . How's that that college stuff ? Is that a little more abusive ?
Speaker 4It can be .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 4Okay , you know when you're . I think one of my mentors told me is just remember you're working with people that are coaching for their livelihood .
Speaker 2True , very true .
Speaker 4They can be a little more yeah . You know animated and you have to be a little more thick skinned with it . But you know , last , not last Friday , friday before I had a lot of cave in in Northern Illinois and they had a full blown gymnastics meet . It's called beauty and the beast , going on Same time .
Speaker 6I wouldn't call the gymnast beast .
Speaker 4Oh nice , and so there's no horn on the . On the clock , there was no towel tapper yeah .
Speaker 2You don't want to scare the gymnast .
Speaker 4Well , understandably , if they're on the balance beam , you don't want to go . Yeah , you know . So it was an interesting format , to say the least , and the biggest complaint I got was the heavy weights were being heavy weights . Yeah , so there wasn't a lot of action .
Speaker 6Oh , I thought you meant like shooting a lot , or something .
Speaker 4Oh yeah , they were all over . Hey , it's crazy because the one shot the Northern Illinois kid took , he got the taped out .
Speaker 6Oh , you know crazy , we just like to keep our numbers up like a thousand percent percentages .
Speaker 2That's what you guys are really worried about . That's a big guys , not a tacharate .
Speaker 6Yeah , you guys can't tell it right .
Speaker 5As a former heavyweight right , I love that heavyweight wrestling and you guys were there . Tell me what match had the most cheering far and away the whole day on Saturday . The gym was crazy for that heavyweight . Oh yeah , nehemiah . Oh yeah yeah . Against Cleveland , that was crazy .
Speaker 2Yes , that was pretty cool to watch . Yeah , actually it was . It was a fun match in general because he didn't know who was going to do
Wrestling Weight Classes Discussion
Speaker 2what . There was so much struggle and I get frustrated with big guys and I think that's kind of where you know some of the people you know , whatever at college matches get to us Like it's a different game . It's a different ball game all together . It's not . It's not a nimble 106 that's trying to run around and grab ankles . You know it's a . It's a big dude that's trying to move another big dude and it's even harder to grab that big dude's leg because that leg is big . Yeah .
Speaker 4Well , just remember you , even even when you get up in the upper weights at the high school level , you know a 200 pound guy wrestling two , 15 is 15 pounds . I mean that's not a little bit of weight , but it's , it's a lot . You do bad ads up , but you , you could be 225 and you're wrestling a guy that's 285 .
Speaker 6That's a big gap . Yeah , our heavy weight weighs a 215 .
Speaker 2That's hilarious , yes , but , but here's the thing , though , is like I don't know that that was that the case back in the day , like I remember . I remember some of the heavy weights being like one guy was like enormously huge , but everybody else had the same type of size heavy weight . Right , you didn't see a guy that was like 197 trying to wrestle 285 .
Speaker 4Well , you see now , because , because back in my day the weight was unlimited .
Speaker 5Yeah , yes , me too .
Speaker 4You know here Paulie Ross , paulie Ross from from Appleton East .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 4And he was over 350 pounds .
Speaker 2See , this is the shit I signed up for , right here . These stories are here , yeah .
Speaker 4His , his patented takedown he would . He would step on the opposing heavy weight foot and then lean on him and and and . You weren't getting your foot back , you were going down .
Speaker 5Yeah , oh God , don't let him slip on your foot Both open from . Hudson made a living out of that too Not too long ago , yep . Oh man .
Speaker 4But Paulie Ross , god rest his soul , his , his , his marks win in college at the Northern Open . He arm , rolled Jimmy Jackson from Oklahoma State , the division one national champ , and pinned them .
Speaker 2Wow , that's impressive . It's impressive , it's impressive . You take that .
Speaker 4On that mat at the time there was almost a thousand pounds of heavy weight and there was a couple of them .
Speaker 6I was going to say , was it a triple team ?
Speaker 2That's a lot of dude .
Speaker 4Jimmy Jackson was about six , five , six , six and and all of three fifty four hundred pounds .
Speaker 6Thanks .
Speaker 4And Paulie was like five , 10 and just round . He was just a big man .
Speaker 2Oh wow , all right , so I'm . I got Hunter Stevens , who you got coach .
Speaker 5I like Mason Carpenter . I know you picked the , the one seed there , but yeah , I mean he's ranked two and and I said I get to see him a little more going to the on the water tournament . So , I'm a little bit so maybe more of a center picking with my heart , as you say .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , perfect . Where are these guys as far as lineup the four in your rankings ?
Speaker 6Oh well , it goes . Hunter , stevens , carpenter , kerry , kerry . Where's birdie Shaw ? Birdie Shaw is eight in mine . Okay , okay , that's the ones I go by . Yeah Well , I mean , this will be the fourth match between Kerry and Stevens , if it happens .
Speaker 2So he .
Speaker 6Stevens has won all of them .
Speaker 2Yeah , so it must have been a head to head thing then , right ?
Speaker 6Yeah , I mean kind of thing . Yeah .
Speaker 2Either way , I don't want to miss out on Rone . I mean , don't get me wrong . I think I think I pick Hunter Stevens , but I think Rone Kerry comes pretty damn close to beating him , because I mean watching him wrestle and Liam's wrestled him once in the past and that was many moons ago but he's a good wrestler , good solid wrestler another Sarbacher .
Speaker 6Yeah , I mean , we got two , two time runner ups . Yeah , kerry's a two time runner up , and so is Carpenter .
Speaker 2So it'll be fun yeah .
Speaker 6It'll be fun .
Speaker 2Somebody's been one of the first one . These top four so far are not disappointing in the D3s , right , that's for sure . All right , d3 , 138 . Dawson Johnson . Yeah , that's all I'm going to say on that one .
Speaker 6LA Beba has been Kalinsky . I love you , dude .
Speaker 2Elias , I love you , kalinsky , I love you , love you , love you . Okay , I don't hate me , but Dawson Johnson is on a roll Like I can't I'm not a , that's the other thing . Like that's where Teague's better than I am . I can't . I can't gloss over things when someone's just that , it's just that , you know . And Kalinsky's , he's a great , great dude . I mean , obviously , his record for it was at 49 and five . That's a good record . You know Dawson is shy , but you got 55 and 0 . Whoo yeah , wrestle your ass off of last . Go get them , take them out . I hope you do , but I got Dawson on this one Agreed , that's what I got . Elliot Beba is also a great name in there . It's not that he's strange to the to being good , but those two are just gonna be the one to watch I take through there .
Speaker 6So I'm going Beba , all right , you're going , you're going is it ?
Speaker 2is it Beba or Beba ?
Speaker 6I don't know , I'm just going with him , all right you say , however , I'll say yeah , I mean he's been tech falling everybody this year .
Speaker 2Does he ? Yeah , I mean , who's notable ? What's a notable match ? Let's see like he . You got that on your stuff .
Speaker 6Yeah , I got it . He tech falled Dylan Weigel , who's a returning third place . No kidding , yeah , twice , he's done it . Twice . He beat Crattachville eight , three , yeah he's . He beat Racky 17 to eight . Like that he's got really , really good wins , hey , Zach .
Speaker 2Yeah , dawson Johnson , I understand , I understand .
Speaker 6I'm going with the . I mean , I just like the , you know , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2Underdog dude . Yeah , you gotta take him and trust me , I'm going to be picking some . Can't go number one All of them .
Speaker 6Crass doesn't like like throat , chop me .
Speaker 2Yeah Well , he's too short right .
Speaker 2No , not that way , it's a long way up there to you know . Um , okay , so we all kind of agreed on that one . Now , coach , we're going to be jumping over to D , three , one forty four , um , you know , I again . I love the Fenimore group , I love that crowd , but I got too much history with Colt Weiler Watching that kid grow up . I mean , he's been up to Liam's grandparents place and gone to camps and stuff . I got Colt Weiler on this one . Ian Krap a close second , but I'm looking for that one in the championship round for sure on that one . Let's see who else we got here . Brady Brady is another good choice . This is last year . Hopefully he can come through . Maybe he's the dark horse , but , um , I got . I got Colton . Colton Weiler . The Mugolski is another one to kind of pull out of here . He's a green-baked , watch him work hard . But I'm going to go . My one , two , three is Colton Krap and then , uh , yeah , I'll put Mugolski in the top three . That's where I'm going to go with that . Well , you got , coach .
Speaker 5I'm just looking at who's this party bill kid Forty four and one . Yeah . All . Kingston .
Speaker 2I don't know much about him , sophomore .
Speaker 6Yeah , I don't know . I got six at 132 last year .
Speaker 2Did he Okay All right this is growing .
Speaker 6Yeah , he's got some decent wins , not I mean .
Speaker 2Who's his loss ? Do you got that on there ?
Speaker 6Yeah , it's from . Uh , it's Colton Hurts from Reesville . Oh , orisburg , sorry Orisburg .
Speaker 5And I just looked up Colton Wiler's . One loss is to number two out of Minnesota , three to two . Yeah , yeah , yeah , I had some college classes with dad back in the day when I went back to the second degree , so a little connection there .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 6That'll be a really good final . I know that yeah .
Speaker 2That will be for sure , and that's his Colton's a Greco kid he loves letting it fly . Yeah , yeah , the crap is too .
Speaker 2Hey , we might see some Greco finals . Yeah , yeah , all right , d three one , 50 . Oh , let's see here Blake Carton . I'm not going to murder this kid's last thing because I did it to gauge Uh , less savage . I did it to his name for a decade and a half , but I'm just going to go , uh , the dance of wets , that's what I'm going . Oh , I hope it's right , but I don't know that I can go with the one seat on .
Speaker 2This way , I think I'm going with Blake Carton here . I think I'm going to pull cart cart . Oh , yeah , yeah . You know , that's another kid watching grow up . But I know again we can't do that . I know again we kind of promised with we don't know , a ton of these kids , but I have been able to see some of these guys wrestle now this year and , um , I just , I think Blake , I mean 43 and three , who are his losses too ? Who Blake Carton ? Oh yeah , I'll let you handle that .
Speaker 6So yeah , it's um sorry he's , he lost Carson Herm from Sean Okay Six to yeah , strong kid he lost a rabbit from Germantown by fall .
Speaker 2Not a bad loss .
Speaker 6He lost Cameron Kimmel by injury , but he was down eight oh , so oh okay , no , he said .
Speaker 2uh , it might be his knee possibly .
Speaker 6Yeah , I mean , I'm I . The seating in this is ridiculous to me . Yeah , Cause like the tournament .
Speaker 5Yeah , no , just discuss Hummeroids . The third ranked guy and had some good wins and I'm I'm off .
Speaker 6Is is the eighth seed and he's wrestles . He's one and two against St Ano it's , if that's how you say his name , but yeah , he's one and two . He's got a win over the one seed . So I mean we could see a one seed go down pretty easily .
Speaker 2Yeah Right , I didn't know that . Yeah , I know I know of him off , you know specifically , but I didn't realize that he had beaten them .
Speaker 6So yeah , they're one and two against I'm still going with Carton .
Speaker 2That's where I'm going . Um , you know , caleb Cromwell could come behind maybe and do something . I doubt it . I think like I'll beat him .
Speaker 5Hey , how about ? Hey , just with a name , like name , like stone pomeroy , I mean , hey , that's got to give you some points right off the bat . Right Couple A couple . You know I'm looking at 44 and three , I'm looking at um . You know , on Wisconsin , grab for rankings , you're , he only lost to Sullivan Ramos . Three to one . Who's a , you know a D , one stud .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 5Be the guy who's pretty good for me . Eight zero , so again with the extra credit he's going to get for his name , yeah . Be , my dark horse there .
Speaker 2There you go , stone , okay , and a name I do know , but it just again with Blake Carton . It's the history thing . Um , gotta gotta go with the familiarity , but I will jump . I'll jump out of my , my comfort zone . So you're , um , okay , the name that I've been murdering forever . Uh , d two or no , that's D two , I don't want that one . D three , 157 . Did we do 150 ?
Speaker 6Yeah , that's what we just did .
Speaker 2Oh , I get my paperwork all mixed up . What do we got on 157 ?
Speaker 6Stout , yeah , stout .
Speaker 2Oh , that might be your top three right there . That might be it uh stout bossy and then uh kukta .
Speaker 6I did see that Connor mint mintink or whatever he he wrestled really tough against Lee . Oh yeah , so that could be an interesting quarter there .
Speaker 2I'd really like to see it , though that one I must not have printed out there . There it is . There we go . Okay , yeah , Jackson bussy , that's a he's just solid wrestler Like Liam . I think Liam took a loss to him the freestyle I think you got beat by him and then he teched him after .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , he was not very happy about that loss . So , uh , mike , a great wrestler , I think that's going to be the top three . Though I'm looking at some of these other guys and , um , you might have a dark horse in . Uh , troy Duhlman .
Speaker 6I mean , tyler Sunday is a three time place or he's got four , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2He's got 43 and one . That's a pretty decent top four right there . So that's I'm going to . I'm going with that one Good job . Track wrestling yeah , they fine Good job . So then we get uh 165 and I'm looking at Kade rule . That's a familiar name .
Speaker 6Van and Bush yeah .
Speaker 2Yep , yep , that's a van and Bush . Lee practices with him a little bit here and there , I believe down in maxes . Um , you know , I think on this one I'm probably going to go . I think Kade's going to be able to beat Van and Bush . I got Kade rule over Van and Bush and , honestly , I think I'm going to put a score on it . I think I think I'm on this one , I think I might go . Uh , kade rule six torn , van and Bush too . Wow , that's that . I'm going to write it down too . Let's write that down , then you can hold me to that one .
Speaker 2He's doing push ups . I'm not doing push ups , I mean he did ?
Speaker 6he did almost give Son and Tag a a pity party like a pity parade or whatever . I'm not getting this . Fourth last year is three two , six to two .
Speaker 2Kade , I wrote that down . There we go . You're welcome , kade . I just , I , just , uh , I'm putting your destiny out there right in the universe , so hopefully it helps you . Um , what do you got , coach ? We hear from you here .
Speaker 5Um , again , I know Van and Bush better than than the rest of those guys . I I really haven't seen any of those other guys and and I think Van and Bush is a beast Um , I like it ?
Speaker 2Yeah , Is I mean it is 43 and one senior senior year . Maybe it's the way , the way of the senior , but , um , cool , what , uh ? What do you have for rankings on ?
Speaker 6the top four Van and Bush , first rule . Second uh , the five seed is my three . Okay , and green . Oh , I don't even know if he made it .
Speaker 2I don't see him in here . Yeah , he was , oh yeah , green . Oh , yep , there he is . Eight , okay , yeah , eight seed , yep , so that's not bad . That's actually a pretty decent bracket . Yeah , it's not . Uh , there's no real slouch in it . So let's see , the lowest one would be Jack . Jack owns , I think , with the losses , but I think that's going to be a pretty fun one to watch . I'm going to keep an eye on that one . Yeah , so cool , all right , good , good , okay . Moving along . D3 175
Wrestling Tournament Predictions and Analysis
Speaker 2.
Speaker 2Let's see , we go out Nash Banco . We got David Mallon from Aquinas man , that team , holy cow , okay , they're making I mean , they've been making noise for a couple of years but they're kind of nailing it down this year . But David Mallon , I again , it was burger with with Nash Banco . Nash is pretty tough . Liam's wrestled with and against him . He's a tough kid . I might go Banco , but I'm also a big Carter Luke fan . I'm a big fan of Carter , look . So you know , those guys let the ballot out . So hopefully , you know , nash winds up out , but Carter's man , that's going to be a tough one . That's going to be a tough one for him . But I , I'm going to predict a Banco Mallon , banco Mallon , the final .
Speaker 6Okay .
Speaker 2Not to be slept on trust the next time .
Speaker 5I was just going to bring him up . He's going to . He's going to out place his seed . I think he's . He's pretty solid , soft when I'm I'm looking at he does have his , if he gets by that first one , his quarter final match up there against Becker . I just look at significant wins . He's lost to him three times Zero , three zero , seven and three seven . So maybe the fourth time's the charm for him .
Speaker 2Yeah , close that gap a little more and get the win , that's for sure . Yeah , yeah , actually good kid , let's see , is there anybody else that I really think is kind of a sleeper in there ? There's another .
Speaker 6I mean , Riley Wanek is good .
Speaker 2I was going to bring him up . Yeah , myra , yeah , I just think that's going to be the top four . It looks pretty solid , and then you have a trust in Riley you have X done .
Speaker 2Coming back , and maybe you know I'm going to put X to the number three . I'll put him third . It's because I like the kid and I think he's going to do good . Even he's got a little bit of a challenge , but I think I think he'll come out pretty high on the podium . It's a good kid . Great family too . All right , d three one ninety . Steve , you're not sleeping yet , are you ?
Speaker 4No , no , no .
Speaker 2If you know any of these teams you got , I'm telling you right now , jump in and let us know here .
Speaker 4I'm a Coleman guy and other than Mike and Cooke , they didn't get much love in these seats .
Speaker 6Yeah , I know how that didn't . It's very true , very true I got a very tough schedule , though , too , like they took some losses , you know .
Speaker 2Yeah , where did they go ? Did they go out of state for a tournament ? This ?
Speaker 6year ? I don't think so . Not Coleman . No , I'm not sure . I don't think so .
Speaker 2D three , one ninety , Tyson Martin , that's my guy . I love again Sanchez brother in there .
Speaker 6Another one .
Speaker 2I love Elijah . He's a great kid too , but Martin's just , he's an animal . He is a guy that as soon as you see him tie up with another guy , that's almost like they all start running yeah .
Speaker 4Yeah , here's an Elijah Sanchez .
Speaker 2Yes .
Speaker 4I've I've wrapped these kids since they were any big kids . Yep Eight grade he's in the state finals OK . Yeah . And he's just getting crushed . I mean literally . It's like 14 to one .
Speaker 6Yeah , wow .
Speaker 4Third period rolls around . He looks at me and he goes I'm like , all right , you want to control ? And locks the kids straight to his back , the kids on the line . I'm counting back points and he keeps telling me he goes , I'm out . No , you're not , you're still in . And I keep telling everybody around the mat is yelling , you're still in . And the kids just stopped wrestling in late there . So I slapped the mat . Oh , I got it . Nice , that's awesome .
Speaker 4That was the semifinals . I'm sorry it wasn't the finals and put him in the finals .
Speaker 2That's awesome .
Speaker 4And the kid got up and said I wasn't pinned . And the coach walked across the mat and goes you were flat . Grabbed him by the neck and took him off the mat . And he goes when the rest looking at you and he's counting , that means you're on your back , you're . You know you don't stop there , right .
Speaker 2He's not counting just waiting for you to get out of bounds . He's counting because you're on your back .
Speaker 4Oh God , that was , that's good .
Speaker 2I get a kick out of when . When Machak will look at like if one of our guys isn't doing it , like if he's backing up , he'll look at the referee like he's stalling . Yeah , he's stalling , he calls it on his own guy . It's hilarious . But you're keeping your guys honest , right ? I mean , hello , go back and up , dude . I love that stuff . That's great . Yeah , martin , there's just Bracen . Sorry , bracen Kelly , I can't leave Bracen out of the conversation , but I think , if anything , he's going to have a hard time in the either quarters or semis . But I got Tyson Martin all the way though .
Speaker 2Yeah that's my dude , that is my guy . Any thoughts coach ?
Speaker 5No , I really . I like I said , I really don't know . I don't know what these guys yeah , except for the Sanchez family .
Speaker 4Yep , yeah , right , right , and I roughed that Martin last year . He is a , he is a beast , so huge , it's huge .
Speaker 2So in the way he , the way that he's built and the way that he moves , originally is so unassuming until he grabs you and then it's , then you better go . You're going for a ride , that's for sure . All right , we got D3215 Jackson Shrammack and Bodie Bocrop or Brocop Brocop . I put the R on the rowist cop . Yep , brocop . I don't know many of these other guys on the other side of the bracket , here on the back , there on the first portion of the bracket , but I do know Brocop in Shrammack from . I mean , teague and Steve constantly are bringing those guys up . So they're obviously doing something right
Wrestling Predictions for D3 and D2
Speaker 2. But I'm going to go off on numbers . I'm going to say Shrammack and Schrader in the finals . I'm sorry , I'm going to go with that . I'm going to . I think Schrader might do a little upset here . That's where I'm going to go off of . But that's me . You know any of these guys ? Coach ?
Speaker 5I don't , but hey , I just . I've seen to be drawn to these five , five seats all the time here so far in the D3 . Hellenberg from Boyceville , 24 and five sophomore Yep . I know Boyceville heck of a program so sometimes I just pick . I know the program pumps out some good kids . I'll take them on a flyer .
Speaker 2Yep , yep , zach , zach , helen drawing the thing . Yeah Nice , it's a cool last name , yeah All right . D3 , last one 285 . We have all . I'm going to tell you this much . Right now I'm going to go with Evan Grotz , that's just so . Here's the thing is watching . It's his senior year . The kid's been kind on fire , I mean with some of the just to . He's kind of fun to watch as a heavyweight . You know what I'm saying . Like him and Nehemiah would be a fun match .
Speaker 6Oh , they wrestled that . She said he put it on us .
Speaker 2I didn't get to see that , did he ? Yeah , oh , sorry I missed it , evan , I was probably out in the hallway . Yeah , he pinned us Pacing or something , so you throw him . No , no , no , I don't think .
Speaker 6Just took him down and turned him . I think he sucked back around . I might be getting confused with the Southeast , he's so strong though we made to that top eight and it was bad Like we ran into ranked ranked nationally guy after ranked national guy .
Speaker 2Oh really .
Speaker 6Yeah .
Speaker 2It'll happen . You're going with Hoffman . You're going with Hoffman .
Speaker 4Yeah , yeah , and I've seen both of these guys . Okay , hoffman is a heck of an athlete , yeah .
Speaker 5And he's smaller . Right , he's smaller , he's not , he's short , he's smaller , or 220 last year . Okay , not very tall , but he's as wide as he is tall .
Speaker 6He wrestled 215 this year . I know that .
Speaker 2Okay , all right . Well , you got some support here , hoffman , and I'm still going Evan , I got Evan .
Speaker 6Yeah , that Kane Otto from Coleman , though he's a big boy too .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , oh , that's right , yeah , yeah he is a big boy .
Speaker 2Yeah , that's right , big time . Okay , that wraps up D3 . Get this paperwork out of here . Nice , beat it . D3 . Got some D2 coming up here . It's an autumn one , I think . Oh yeah , this is . I think it's all about bracket difference . Okay , yeah , that's right . All right , thanks Again
Predicting D2 Wrestling Regionals
Speaker 2. Some of these folks we don't know , every single , we are not . We are not Teagan Steve , we don't . We don't have , we don't break down numbers like they do . Zack probably breaks them down more , but we definitely have some guys that are going to be exciting to watch D2 here or right off , right off the bat landing bow guard .
Speaker 2Yeah , I know that he's had . Some of the losses that he takes are kind of head scratchers , but I don't think . I think in postseason I think he's going to pull it together . I'm going , I'm going bow guard in the end . I know Parker Spearings is good , not sleeping on . I'm picking the dark horse here with the , with the little land and bow guard action . I don't know , shane .
Speaker 6Oh , he's been on fire this year .
Speaker 2I haven't like I haven't caught a match of his . I haven't seen anything that he's like any kind of replays or anything because I didn't know about him . Yeah , so um .
Speaker 6Pretty sure he was a multiple time youth state champ , was he ?
Speaker 2Oh good , all right , perfect . But I'm going bow guard and Spearings in the finals and I think bow guard beats him . Yeah . Yeah , people are laughing because I'm a spreser and comments coming in right now . Oh , there's no way he's doing that , but I'm calling it . So , coach , what do you know ? A couple of these guys .
Speaker 5I do , Um , and you know people that that have seen me other place on podcast know my love for the Pulaski invites . So Garry Ganter from O'Connell Falls Did he win the invite this year ?
Speaker 2Yes , yeah , so yeah , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 5So I'm going to give him a little love and then maybe see him put a little . I get it , that second round match is going to be a tough one , but oh yeah .
Speaker 6Yeah , see what happens . Okay , okay . And this is another . Like , uh , jandren beat Spearings at sectional and their four or five , you would think that that would flip .
Speaker 2Yeah , the head to head , yeah I mean last week too , I don't know .
Speaker 6It was ultimate tiebreaker , yeah .
Speaker 4But I think at the regional , I think it was just flip flop , oh was it .
Speaker 2Oh , okay , okay .
Speaker 4I think they've seen each other multiple times yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 4Cause , like I know , luxembourg put like 11 in the finals and they had a rough finals in the region .
Speaker 6Oh did they .
Speaker 4Yeah .
Speaker 2So yeah , that's it . I'm going to go that row with the coach . What , um , what was your top ?
Speaker 5pick At six . I got to go back to that bracket here and let me take a look . Um , I'm going to go with the uh , ingham from Amory , okay , just because I like his old brother , yeah .
Speaker 6All right , he beat Hamill 7 0 at by state and that was a pretty good uh yeah , ingham's , he's no joke , he's good , he's good .
Speaker 2Okay , so we got 106 covered , D2 , d2 , 113 . Um , this is pretty , pretty simple .
Speaker 5Yeah , that's pretty cut .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's Peterson , Sorry , everybody else man . Uh , better luck the next two years , wherever you're at , because wherever that kid's at , it's probably going to dominate . Um , I'm just knowing just knowing his training regiment . I mean he's out by Lucas constantly . You know he was down there training . I mean these guys he goes everywhere to train anywhere he can get his hands on . I mean I think it was last year sometime , it was just and he was just up here , I think , watching a tournament stopped in the practice room practice . Yeah .
Speaker 2Like it . Wherever he goes , he's wrestling , it doesn't matter .
Speaker 6I mean , I think he wrestles in the car and I'm pretty sure he's wrestled up as high as 132 this year , like he just like probably weighed like 20.1 . Yeah , he just wanted to break that week . Yeah , crazy , he goes for the best guy at where he can . You know , he's always looking for that .
Speaker 2I love that , yeah , uh , but again you still got Logan shot . Uh , nothing to to slow chat there . Brent Kajaric another , another , good , solid wrestler .
Speaker 6Yeah , Um Q Wascom's really had a good year .
Speaker 2Oh dude .
Speaker 6They're on the rise for sure .
Speaker 2Yeah , so um was it eight this year .
Speaker 6Uh , not sure the total . Yeah , I think it was .
Speaker 2I think it was eight , was it ? That's the most in school history .
Speaker 5We've seen them twice this year on the water . And then we see my the uh find like invite . They are yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2We got like three more , four more , five more weights where those guys are coming up here . So , um , so , yeah , I Logan Chad . I've seen him wrestle for quite some time . Uh , we don't pull for that kid a little bit . But , um , right , I think I want for my number two next to Hawking . Um , I know he's got , uh , he's got some guys he can dangle back there . Carson oh yeah , I don't know why he's back there . That's kind of a weird spot , I think , for Carson he's , he's uh .
Speaker 6I mean he's uh , right , good , but I don't , I mean he . He was JV State Champ last year , yeah , so , yeah , so he's good it's just a weird spot .
Speaker 2I thought he was . I mean , I thought he would have been seated a little higher . But that's what . It is . All right , I think we all agree . Hawking Peterson um D two one 20 . Now we got Charlie is mut mute .
Speaker 6I'm not the guy , I don't know .
Speaker 2I , they pronounced it and they did it correctly . So I'm just going to say Charlie , I don't want to wreck his name Um . Brady Collins , carson Newbert , oh man , okay , yeah , these top five are crazy . Why am I golfing , holy cow yeah .
Speaker 6Oh no , these are . This is ridiculous . I've not looked at D two very well Like this like guess as eight seed returning state place or well , that's pretty good too , it's good . Oh my gosh . Mueller and Collins orders .
Speaker 2So yeah , um , so I think Mueller makes it to Collins , but I think Collins beats Mueller . So I think Collins will make it to Collins . They'll make it to the semis , but mute , I think it's going to go to the finals . So Collins , third Newbert's going to be in the finals .
Speaker 5Uh sorry , steve , I think the golfing gets Newbert again there from Casco . Um , he beat him five to three at the invite , so there's a head to head there .
Speaker 4Okay . Hey , chris , you have to remember my son , russell , there . Oh yeah .
Speaker 2Okay , okay , so that's a . Everybody pay attention to D two 120 .
Speaker 6Newbert did beat um McGaulsy last week , though seven , five and seven victory . Okay , yeah , so that there's one .
Speaker 5Okay , good , that's a good one , yeah .
Speaker 2But I'm , I'm going to call Charlie the champ , but we'll have Charlie Carson and and , uh , I'm going with Collins at number three , Charlie going for his third or , you know , maybe Newbert starts his four titles , maybe he wrecks that dream .
Speaker 2Yeah , maybe Can you be a dream crusher . Carson Newbert , can you be a dream crusher , cause dad probably loves a fact that we're just talking about that right now . Uh , d two , 126 . Um , okay , so we got some more names in here . Okay , reed Sperly , number one . Ethan air , number two . Bob Huntley , number three . Max Gonzalez , number four . Um , I like that order . Yeah , I mean Max Gonzalez but I can't sleep on Jimmy racer . Oh I know , you know . Yeah , Bob Huntley's talk .
Speaker 5Bob Huntley's talk . Yes , hey , I'm looking at Reed's record six matches .
Speaker 6Yeah , coming back from injury . Okay , yeah , okay .
Speaker 2So explain that to me , cause this is where I have questions on . So I know that obviously , if you're in the tournament last year , that has some clout as far as points and things like that . But you have a record of six and oh , how does that give you the number one spot ?
Speaker 6Uh , I don't , I don't , I don't know the . I can't remember the things right off the top of my head , but the what ?
Speaker 2the criteria was or whatever .
Speaker 5Well um his championship from last year would put him there .
Speaker 2I thought we were saying that that didn't have anything to do with it .
Speaker 5It does . It's one of the top , okay , okay . Well , there you go .
Speaker 6Reed lucky six and he beat the two seed six four last week .
Speaker 2So so it kind of solidifies .
Speaker 6Yeah , I mean cause if he doesn't probably aired , it's probably the one because , he's returning like second or third place last year .
Speaker 5So that's interesting . Let's bring up another key wascom kid , James racer . Yeah , I can't say Jimmy . Hammer on top with an hour . Yeah .
Speaker 2So Jimmy and Jimmy's had
Predicting Wrestling Match Winners
Speaker 2a . He's had a good long history of wrestling . I mean Liam and him used to go ahead to head constantly when they're younger , um the regionals . Every every , almost every year , they ran into each other and we would take second because he loses Jimmy . And then finally he beat Jimmy by one point at Keegan Keegan was coaching and Liam's corner . I'll never forget the one match that we didn't record . All the other useless matches we recorded they're not useless , but all the other ones from his youth , the one that really probably mattered because I mean Liam was balling after that match , it was so big to him and but he beat him by a point and then after that Jimmy couldn't beat Liam anymore , but Jimmy was .
Speaker 2He was kind of growing up a little bit . He got into hunting . I mean , a kid kills everything . If it flies it dies , if it's brown , it's down . You know all the , all the combinations of killing that you can do in the woods and he does , he does it well . And then he got back and he started going to kind of run into the AWA a little bit and now he goes there full time and he's made a huge comeback . Yeah , so I think honestly , him being at six kind of hurts my feelings .
Speaker 6I mean , Huntley majored him what Huntley majored him . How long ago though ?
Speaker 2That was a while ago , yeah , that was a while ago . I'm going , I'm , I'm . I think Jimmy beats Bob this time . Yeah , that'd be a that's where I'm going Turn around .
Speaker 6That's 11 to three .
Speaker 2Brilliant Move in .
Speaker 5You know , I can just say that both those guys are bangers . Man , that's going to be a physical match .
Speaker 2Yep , for sure , so I . But again it's the I'm going to my heart , you know holding on my heart on that one . Go Jimmy . Go Jim , I'm . Maybe we'll make a T-shirt . Go Jimmy this year . That's D two , one , 26 . Again , that order looks pretty good . I'm just putting Jimmy in front of Bob .
Speaker 6Yeah , that's all I'm doing . Max Gonzalez man , he's he's pretty damn good . I love to see . I can't wait for this , am I ?
Speaker 2Yeah , he's damn good , he's fun to watch . Um , okay , D two one 32 . Colton hush one , T Hulser two , Peter Tomasovic three and Blakely bastion four . Um , yeah , you know they're sleeping on . It's kind of this is a really good bracket , oh yeah .
Speaker 6It's empty at the 12 C . That's got to be the toughest 12 seed ever .
Speaker 2Ever , ever Wow In them Same Where's the where was the other in them . From which one ? Why didn't ?
Speaker 6you know that he's from .
Speaker 2That's a memory . Oh , I remember what . I mentioned before . Yeah , this one's been pretty Okay . Um , I like that order , but I think Weston's , wyatt's brother , I believe .
Speaker 5Yes , yeah .
Speaker 2Trey , Trey and Ethan , Trey and Ethan , Trey and Ethan .
Speaker 6Yeah , that'll be a good one .
Speaker 2I will be . I'm having a hard time deciding who's going to win that one . I thought , I thought I think Ethan wins it . Trey is tough though . Yeah , if that's going to go down to a possible overtime match right there , god , in the first round , yeah .
Speaker 6That's a nice bracket .
Speaker 2Okay , so I'm going to . I'm going to put Ethan in front of Trey . Sorry , trey , you and your dad are great people , but I'm going with Ethan on this one . Um , I don't know that Ethan beats Blakely though .
Speaker 5I'm trying to see it there . I'm not seeing one right now Is that key beat Blakely ?
Speaker 6Yeah , seven , six , that regional Possibly beat . I don't know how it went that sectional , but it must have been the other way around . I mean you can't really assume it the way they've been ranking them or seeding them anyway .
Speaker 2But I think it's going to be a hush Thomas Epic final , but I think I think it will make it to the semis .
Speaker 6Yeah , Peter lost to . He lost to Holzer at the northern badger .
Speaker 2That's why he's below .
Speaker 6Yeah , I think it was a match . So I think it was like four to six or something . Yeah , something like that .
Speaker 2Okay , what do you got on that one coach ?
Speaker 5I'm going to take a hush and the freedom guy in the finals .
Speaker 2I'm a seven . Yeah , yeah , peter runs with uh , with PD . They practice a lot together so , yeah , they definitely they bang some ideas off each other . So that's a good man . So we got 120, . 126 wasn't bad , but then 132 . Yeah , this is going to be fun to watch . Okay , um , that kind of honestly that makes you makes D one look a little lopsided .
Speaker 6I mean , yeah , that's , that's a good bracket Ten good guys at 132 . Yeah .
Speaker 2Okay , All right , D two 138 .
Speaker 5Oh founding father William Penn takes .
Speaker 2Takes founding father . Guy Bryston Scholes is four . Mason Mao is three . Col Bozeal , another kid . A lot of history with him . He's a great wrestler . Um I I haven't seen who were his uh .
Speaker 6Three losses to um he lost to Del Delbrue .
Speaker 2Oh , okay , casco yeah .
Speaker 6Uh , three , three times , I think that was just him . Yeah , I think so . I know it's two for sure .
Speaker 2Okay , it's . Uh explains why is it a different weight .
Speaker 4No , he's Caleb . Yeah , he lost him .
Speaker 6What ? Yeah , he's lost him twice . I know that for sure he must have beat him at sectional .
Speaker 2Man .
Speaker 6No , he got second at sectional . He lost him again . He's all . Three of his losses are Delbrue and he's seated above him .
Speaker 5Is there a past state place winner in there ? Yeah , I mean , he got a , that's that would be it . Yeah , that's crazy .
Speaker 6Oh , he got six . Last year Delbrue did , but and what was the deal ? Bozeal got fourth and six , so yeah , oh , okay , that's a lot of averages there , yeah .
Speaker 2It's just , I just don't get that .
Speaker 6I mean if he's three and oh and oh and three against somebody .
Speaker 5Yeah , that's crazy . I'm , I'm taking schools to win it all anyway there .
Speaker 6So are you yeah ? I have not got to see him . Yeah , I'm very excited . He's pretty good to watch , he's good , he's good .
Speaker 2Um , I think I watched him wrestle . Um oh man , and he and it wasn't . It wasn't like he blew him out of the water , but he controlled him the whole time as a freshman . That was pretty impressive , um , but yeah , that's a . That's a good pick . You know , I'm I'm going to go with Penn . I'll go with Penn on this one . I'm going to let Cole Bozeal find his way to the finals with Penn . I think that's how that's going to go . Okay , d three or D two , one 38 done . D two , one , 44 . Oh , this is pretty .
Speaker 6Yeah .
Speaker 2This one should be pretty , pretty simple . Uh oh , it's a fruit , Vote it . I got on that one . Sorry guys , Sorry Casco , Uh , you guys not . You're not being suffered .
Speaker 6Yeah , I mean Kelly , and Kelly is he's good , he got third last year , but I mean , or suffered his do . Yeah , he's got second and third .
Speaker 2Yep , I like to call him the mini Brock Lesnar . Way shaped his neck , I mean , it's the way he's built . It's like a mini Brock Lesnar . Yeah , so I got the fruit there . That's pretty simple one . Um , I don't .
Speaker 5I don't know him . I don't think I've ever well I've , obviously . I've probably seen him out on the internet state , but never realized or paid attention .
Speaker 2Right , sorry , sorry , bucker kid . Yeah , um D2 150 . Oh , there we go . See now , okay , I know Danny Heiser . Well aware , you're well aware . I'm voting for cage , based on his name alone .
Speaker 6Yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah , I'm going cage . So sorry , danny , I know you're probably going to do something , but I'm going with cage because his name is cage .
Speaker 6Okay , and that's how I'm picking . That's one way to pick them .
Speaker 2Hey , you gotta be a little unrealistic sometimes , right ? Yeah , max Ronson , that's hard to pass up on . I mean , that's a . I'm still going to cage . Yeah , his name is cage . Okay , max Ronson , sorry , I know you're . You're probably going to be in the in the finals , but it's going to be a cage .
Speaker 6Then why he apologized and he knocked off . Hi there , I should be apologizing for that , that's wrong , I'm going with that one .
Speaker 2I don't see anybody else in there . That's really going to give too much of a tussle . Derotia Can't sleep under Osher , but Ronson's going to be a tough one to pop out of the bracket and just kind of dominate .
Speaker 4So I'll tell you that regional final was tight .
Speaker 2Was it oh ?
Speaker 4yeah , it was a one point match , really yeah .
Speaker 6I did not know that how much stalling .
Speaker 4I , I , I both these young man's credit they , those two boys , got after it for six minutes yeah .
Speaker 2Okay , okay , all right , respect there . My , my money's on cage . I should do it Like I should make a T-shirt of all the picks , I mean the wear them around state .
Speaker 6See , there you go yelling me . Why is my kids yelling you ? Even if your name's not , they probably will .
Speaker 2That's why I show up , that's why I go to events . All right , so that was . That was pretty obvious on that one , right yeah ?
Speaker 6I mean yeah . I mean yeah , it's cage . Yeah , I don't think I'm going with that but everybody's picking , danny . I get it I get it guys .
Speaker 2All right , so we'll go D two 157 . Got a daily , you got a heart . You got a gauge less savage . There you go . I need to . I'm going to look that name up tonight . I'm going to see why and how they spell to like that . That's crazy .
Speaker 6Wait , that's how you say that .
Speaker 2Yeah the savage , really yeah , that's gaugeless savage .
Speaker 6I always said loze , which I would have . There's no way I would have got close to that . I would not have got a sandwich ? Yeah , not at all .
Speaker 2I think it was .
Speaker 4What looks way closer .
Speaker 2I think I can't remember what event we're at . I think it was for one of the WI wrestle events or whatever and someone's like hey , is you know like , did you see gaugeless , gaugeless savage ? I'm like , oh , I don't know gaugeless savages , and they pointed them . I was like that's loze , which , like you know , it's pronounced the savage , and I'm like come on , and then he confirmed Okay , how's it ?
Speaker 6says T confirmed this .
Speaker 2T confirmed it .
Wrestling Bracket Predictions and Analysis
Speaker 2Yeah , see , probably got some dipping dots for um . You know there's this is a young daily and I know that he's he's doing pretty damn good . I mean 32 and five . It's really hard for me to look past gauge and probably why is he only 19 ? No , was he hurt ?
Speaker 6Yeah , he was hurt too , Was it yeah ?
Speaker 5What about Griffin Marco ? Yeah , hard to sleep on that name , and right , I mean true .
Speaker 6Well , the eight seed , the eight seed in this bracket , lost to heart . Nine , nine to 11 .
Speaker 2So he was at 165 , wasn't he ?
Speaker 6Yeah , he was at one point . He I mean he was injured all last year . He was injured on the fourth and fifth and 22 and 21 . Yeah , so he's tough .
Speaker 2But Um , I'll go with Brodie . Brodie had a good match last year against Rhett . That does pretty pretty . What was it Two ? Was it two to one ?
Speaker 6What .
Speaker 2With a reconing .
Speaker 6Wasn't it overtime .
Speaker 2I think it was . It might have been overtime . I'm going to go with Brodie on this one .
Speaker 6He won his freshman year .
Speaker 2He hasn't won it again , so he's see if he can get back on his time . I want to take a .
Speaker 4Marco , here yeah .
Speaker 5I agree with you , Steve A hundred percent .
Speaker 6I like that Denmark number six . I'm not going to even try and say his last name , but the Denmark kid he would he . He beat Peyton at the .
Speaker 5At the invite . Yeah , oh , really , yeah , that surprised me .
Speaker 6Oh yeah , that's right .
Speaker 2Okay , okay . I think Marco is Cole's brother . The cold , I'm assuming .
Speaker 4Yeah , that that name came up in the CD meeting . That Denmark kid . Yeah . And I just went . Stephen , yeah , whatever that guy , if you go through all the names to make sure the coaches are paying attention , yeah , Our coaches , just let me . I'm like I'm not pronouncing that .
Speaker 2Stephen K . Stephen K yeah , do you imagine making a name badge for that too ? Oh , five miles long . So many consonants , so many , so so many tongue twisters in that name alone . That's I'm . I got Brody Hart . You guys are going . Marco , yeah , where you going . Polo , where you going .
Speaker 6Yeah , I mean I've got to go Hart .
Speaker 2Go Hart . Yeah , okay , because you're a numbers guy . Yeah , I mean , all right , okay , so we got D2 165 . You know , wathley , I'll give them the nod , just because I don't know any of these other guys .
Speaker 6Oh , the cellular is good . He came up , though he might be small .
Speaker 2All from 57 . Yeah , I'll give . I'll give Owen the edge , just because of record alone .
Speaker 6Oh yeah , yeah , I mean Owens on another level , on top too .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , he kind of showed that didn't he yeah ?
Speaker 2He penned Liam . They penned Liam at an event that they had . So he's . Liam made the mistake of putting his leg up in the wrong place . Yeah , he kicked that bad boy right in and turned him right over . So we'll learn how to kick that foot out of there again , aren't we ? But so I'll give the nod to Owen on that one . St Croix , I don't even know who I'd pick . I mean to cellular , I guess number two , but I don't . I just don't know . I haven't seen these guys wrestle . Yeah , I think after this year I probably see a little bit more . But Schmidt sounds familiar . That's Sam Schmidt . But the lakeside Lutheran does not ring a bell at all . Again , some of these teams man that Tegan , those guys read off . It's like where are you ?
Speaker 6Yeah .
Speaker 2I don't know where you guys , where you're from , so cool . That's what I got . Coach , anything special notes on that ?
Speaker 5Just , I'm going with Owen , just as , like I said , I haven't seen any of these guys wrestle . Yep , yep .
Speaker 2I think it's two . One 65 . Sorry to disappoint you , that's what . We got Owen's open and shut case there . One 75 . We got Mason Lane on top . Justin Klinkner . I know Liam used to run to Klinkner a little bit when he was younger but I haven't seen him wrestle since . But the record doesn't lie he's pretty close to the number one seed . Yeah , did he lose to the number one seed ?
Speaker 6No , he's . He lost the kind bomb and regional and then beat him at sectional .
Speaker 2Okay , so I'm going to go with .
Speaker 4Klinkner . I roughed that match . It was a really good match . Yeah , the difference was they got into a scramble and Klinkner got caught on his back coming out of the scramble .
Speaker 2That's where he would , with Liam too , yeah .
Speaker 4Would do , and regional At regional , yeah , okay , okay , you know . And then Klinkner just couldn't get any offense going after that .
Speaker 6Yeah , I mean that kid's probably got to be huge . He was 90 all year and came down .
Speaker 2So yeah , oh , he got you Still going to go with Klinkner .
Speaker 6Yeah .
Speaker 2I'm picking him to win it . You're welcome , justin , it's my pick . How about you , coach ? What do you got ?
Speaker 5Well , I'm not necessarily going to pick this guy to win it , but to out places , see , going to pick one with my heart here . Patrick Moore from freedom , oh geez yeah .
Speaker 6He's got kind of on in the quarter . That'll be , that'll be a good match .
Speaker 2What's it ? Has Patrick wrestled him ? I'm trying to look real quick .
Speaker 5I don't see one jumping on it .
Speaker 6It had to be a sectional .
Speaker 4They had to see each other at sectionals .
Speaker 6Yeah , yeah , he beat him 14 to seven at sectionals .
Speaker 2He beat Patrick 14 to seven .
Speaker 6For for sectional yeah , for second place , like true , second yeah .
Speaker 2I'll play . I have Clinton , you're winning it , but I'll put Patrick . I'll put Patrick .
Speaker 4I agree , I agree , I think it'll be about six place . I I . I agree yes .
Speaker 2For sure .
Speaker 6For sure , my dark horse to make the finals is the Medford kid , kawa . He's , he's , yeah , he put it on Brady at Eau Claire . Did he , yeah , yeah . I think he could do really well . I think he could maybe make the finals out of that .
Speaker 2Okay , yeah , I got Clinton first , moore's third and I'll put Mason Lane second . I think he's going to lose to Clinton . That's that . What's 75 done ? D2 190 . Wow , why an Income , max Mathias .
Speaker 6Oh , this is a crazy break .
Speaker 2Trisha , I'm excited , steely . What's going on here ? Oh then , the only one that I really know on this beginning portion of the bracket , like well , would be Owen Berling . Yeah . So I know Owen Carson Loshaw I've seen a couple of times , but I don't . I don't know William wrestling well enough , but I think I see him making it out of that , but he's not going to beat Silas , yeah . So there's that , Max Mathias . I got in the finals with Silas , for sure .
Speaker 5I'm going to take Income over Mathias in the cell .
Speaker 6That'll be a that'll be an awesome match . It's going to be an awesome match .
Speaker 2Yeah , I think , I think that's going to be one that Liam's going to be sitting by . I mean Max , he kind of chums around with him a little bit , so it'll be a fun one . It'll be fun , um . So yeah , that wow .
Speaker 6So that's how that shown back uh Matthias go . I know Matthias won Uh . Were you at that ? Uh sectional Steve , not like a regional , not the second , you were at the regional Okay and shown back , shown back , beat him at the regional right .
Speaker 4I think I thought so .
Speaker 6Yeah , I thought so too . Oh , no , matthias , matthias got a seven to three . Yeah , so he's won the last two . I didn't know that .
Speaker 2Yeah , buddy . One on one at the okay , that's got some Max Matthias going on ?
Speaker 6Yeah , it's going to be . I mean , daily has been really good too . Yes , this was a hard . This was a hard one to rank all year .
Speaker 2Yes , I don't . Here's the thing I don't . I , I don't think Max is going to be daily though . Yeah , don't think so . That's going to be a fun match , but I don't , I don't see . I mean so like Liam's practice with daily a couple of times , and his hands are huge . Oh yeah , they're gigantic . And not only are they huge , they're strong .
Speaker 6Yeah .
Speaker 2So he's like anytime you try to like get his hands off your wrist or something , because you're spending five minutes doing it right , because his grip is so hard , you know . So it's like he goes . He was wasting so much time to try and get out of the bottom .
Speaker 6Yeah , Matthias hasn't really . I mean , he has one loss , but it's a , it's a like a slam , so that's his only actual loss . Was a , was a .
Speaker 2Oh , really yeah .
Speaker 4He has time or a loss too .
Speaker 6Silas has lost a mirror solo twice . Okay , maybe three times .
Speaker 2Yeah , that's it though .
Speaker 6Yeah .
Speaker 2That tells him oh yeah .
Speaker 6Oh , he lost to Sinclair too . Oh well , yeah .
Speaker 2Well , whatever , yeah .
Speaker 5That's another slouch , right , I saw schedule as he wrestling for crying all night . Yeah , no kidding yeah . He bumped up to wrestle .
Speaker 4Someone , you really coughed . Wow , I'm kidding God . Oh man , all right , moving on up D2 , 215 .
Speaker 6I'm a couple of these guys chase Matthias .
Speaker 2Kale lies gang . Can we talk ?
Speaker 5about . Is there a taller wrestler in the world ever ?
Speaker 2ever at all that wrestled in high school sports .
Speaker 6I don't think so .
Speaker 2Because I think I can't . I'm pretty sure that if you were standing in a gymnasium and he jumped up just straight up , he could touch the ceiling . I'm pretty sure .
Speaker 4I don't know . Yeah , tallest one I've ever seen in Wisconsin is Brady Stump , and he's six-nine .
Speaker 5Oh yeah , heavyweight Kimberly back in the day . What , yeah , yes , wow , one of the most gentle giants I've ever seen . As a good kid he was a six-nine wrestler .
Speaker 2Yeah , yes , he lost Steve . Come back Steve . Steve , what are you doing there ? You go , you're back . I'm going to turn the lights off . What are you doing in there ?
Speaker 5There you go .
Speaker 2Hand check . All right , so we got Hello , hello , can you hear me ? There you go , steve . Chris , can you hear me ? I can hear you . Okay , good , steve , can you hear us ?
Speaker 5I'm thinking that's enough .
Speaker 6I don't think so .
Speaker 5Steve can't hear us .
Speaker 6We can see him , though , yeah .
Speaker 2Can you hear him , Steve ? We can hear you or not . He's got audio settings .
Speaker 6Anyways , we'll keep going here .
Speaker 2Okay , all right , we're on 285 .
Speaker 6No , we haven't finished .
Speaker 2We have finished 215 . Oh , I'm sitting here looking right at it . We were talking about Kyle Lisegang and how long his legs get . Yeah , steve , you let us know how you're doing . I'm going to take him off for just a second , all right .
Speaker 5There we go . Hey , this is a crazy bracket too , with some really tough guys that's what I was looking for the five seat , yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah , we talked about Vols too . Vols just got 150, .
Speaker 6I think right , yeah , vols just got 150 wins .
Speaker 2Steve , can you hear us now ? How about now ?
Speaker 6Yeah , I mean theories . Only loss is to Garrett Kaczynski . Five , six at the at the by state , oh really .
Speaker 2Yeah , it was five to six . Yeah , I just looked that up , wow .
Speaker 6I mean the fifth five seat . There is crazy .
Speaker 2Yeah , that is crazy .
Speaker 6But I mean it has to be a text , Steve quick .
Speaker 2Um , so I I'm honestly with this one . I don't . I didn't see Ian Smith wrestle , but he's 16 and 0 . Yeah so it's chase , holy cow . 37 and 0 . Yeah , I'm going to chase .
Speaker 6Ian Smith is a runner up . Runner up behind Whiting and then won it last year at 95 . So and he was hurt a lot of the year . I mean he's committed to . Northern Illinois . He's , he's good , very good I know that would be a very good match .
Speaker 2I'm going to text Steve here quick . Well , you guys are so 215 , I got chased . The number two . I I'll go Ian Smith , but theory is going to be number three .
Speaker 6Yeah , I think so too . I mean , I think Smith gets chased , but there he is , he's back on there now .
Speaker 2Yeah , I know , I don't know if he can hear us , though . Okay , steve , can you hear us ? He's playing with the settings , oh God .
Speaker 5You see he just typed . I had a call come in and I can't hear you guys .
Speaker 2I just texted him . We can't hear you yet . That's fine .
Speaker 5Hey , you can jump back in .
Speaker 5Hey , brad , I just got a little intel here , uh-oh On my communicator what's that who said what we're going to go back to Liam's match with Jimmy Remember we were talking about that , jimmy Racer , yeah , yeah , yeah . And she tells me that you really can't get much credit for that win because you were way too emotional as a dad coach . He can't caught a little repping mistake with injury time at the start of the third . That was the turning point , so I just wanted to throw that out to you . I got I got some good sources out there .
Speaker 2That was good intel , that was correct , I was the one .
Speaker 5I was the one who was right upstairs in your house . That was good .
Wrestling State Championship Bracket Analysis
Speaker 2I remember cause Keegan had to coach , cause that one I was too wrapped up for that was one of those matches where I was like , well it leaves , guy he , I know he can win this one , I know he can win . I was like it doesn't have to be by five , it doesn't have to be like 20 . He can be by one , I know he can win it . I think I was whole , I was , my voice was fine the entire day Up until that match . I was screaming so much there Steve , I'm coming , steve , I'm coming . Can you hear us now ? Yep .
Speaker 4Steve's back . I had a full call coming in and all of a sudden everything went silent .
Speaker 2Yeah , technology , I tell you what right so that . That is the . That is the Jimmy racer story . It was so weird and thank God Keegan was there because the injury time at the end Liam got choice , so he took bottom . Right . Cause Jimmy wasn't going to turn them . That was , that was . I can't believe we didn't video that match . All right , so we did two 15 . I think we kind of discussed that a little bit .
Speaker 5Yeah , two 85 is going to be a head scratcher .
Speaker 2Let's see , I don't know Cool , how long is half a van ? How long ?
Speaker 6is what Pop . You're going to be on the mat Less than a period Less than three minutes .
Speaker 4Yeah .
Speaker 6I would say so as well .
Speaker 2Yeah , um , I got Hunter winning it , okay , winning it . Sorry Koi , sorry Koi . You , you're senior here getting to Minnesota . You're losing that championship . Sorry , that's what's happening . My money's going on the Clovers , my money's on the Clovers . I know .
Speaker 2I think we all know what the outcome is . But I'm going with the dark course . That's why , cause right now I'm not betting anything , so I'll just , I'll say whatever . But once I start betting money , then I don't say any . Unless I know I'm winning , I don't put money down on anything . That's all right , that's how I , that's how I gamble . But yeah , no , I Koi's going to win , but hopefully Hunter can give him a little bit of a battle . He's fun to watch . Been around those guys for a long time too , but we got on the other side here , the first part of the bracket , willie Graham . So is that preacher ? Yup , yup , sam Keeler . I don't know these other guys . I can't even . I can't even tell .
Speaker 4Keeler's a two 15 pounder that moved up .
Speaker 2Yeah , okay , okay , he moved up to hopkey .
Speaker 6Oh , he moved up to get out of that regional . No , I know Like loaded at two 15 .
Speaker 2Yeah yeah , there's a crazy bracket , okay . Well , I think we know what's going on there 25 . All right , so we are on to this point . Upset someone , but we're on to the , the premiere D one . Okay .
Speaker 4D one . Okay , no D one .
Speaker 2D one , okay , D one , okay . So we are on to the next point . D one , yeah , okay . So we are on to the next point and I'm going to do a little little bit of a rough One , oh six , so this gets a little crunched up because these brackets are a little bigger .
Speaker 2So I got to do Well , all these other guys are doing now . I got a few pages and notes , just like you , brad , put these bad boys on here , so Do some reading . So I like obviously Andy's in it , you know I . But I have a lot of history with well , yeah and I love you is tough . I know rugs tried to , has gone against him several times and rug kind of it was . It was always to me it seemed like it's because their buddies wrestling each other and that kind of got in the way . As far as I know how good he is and I know he's done this , vice versa , you know , between the two it just seems like the shaman has always been able to kind of keep the cool together a little bit when it comes to maybe either being down or whatever , and but there's got two wins , three one and sudden victory in a five .
Speaker 5One win , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2And then you got Bailey Casey . You know you can't not look at a Casey and wonder where he's going to wind up . So this is . This is going to be tougher with these brackets . Hamel looks a little small for 106 . He weighs 108 . I mean , the kid looks like a rail , yeah , he looks super duper skinny , whereas some of it like like , when you look at D Piazza , he's obviously came from 113 or whatever but yeah , we'd 107.8 . That is crazy .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't know if it's in the hair like , but it does not seem like he weighs that much . I mean Armagost , that's another one . You know he's the three seed . Um , I think I'm going to get any rest , or Armagost . No no , we didn't see those guys .
Speaker 6No , we beat the . I don't remember Real kid A lot of shit . Then the Auburn Dale kid beat Armagost Okay .
Speaker 2So I'm going to give me any of the nod into the finals . I don't know that he's going to be to shaman . If to shaman is one , that's there Right .
Speaker 6Andy did beat rug 12.0 in March .
Speaker 2Yes , yes , so that I know yeah .
Speaker 5I think Andy's length is do shemmins of buzz saw on his feet right From what the times I've seen him in ? And again I mean I tried not to make predictions and all these just trying to put out information right . So people walking up to me this weekend , I just you know what I mean . That's the last thing I'm not making . Throw out information and create some banter and some conversation , right . Yup Andy's length could , could neutralize some of that , I think so yeah , for sure .
Speaker 2I think the , I think the other one and again Casey , is not someone I want to overlook . I think Casey can definitely make his way to the finals . I just think that the shaman match is going to be tough .
Speaker 6Yeah , I mean the toughest first round match I see is as need him and rug in the first round .
Speaker 5I've got that one written down here too . Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 6That's crazy . Yeah . Like I know rug , I know need him has had some injury defaults . Like he injured out against Armagas at the team sectional . Okay , and then at the , at the regular sectional as well , so so that one could be really really good , really good first round match .
Speaker 2Yeah , I see Bailey making the semifinals , but again , the shaman stuff , um , I think it's DPS and the shaman in the finals and I and , if anything , casey's third , for sure , I think those , those seeds are correct . No , that's not correct , casey's four . But yeah , four close enough , yeah .
Speaker 5And I'm going to bet need him finishes way higher than 12 .
Speaker 2Yes , I agree there . I'll hardly agree . So there we got . We got down with Jane Torres that's another name , oh too .
Speaker 6Yeah , I mean that's . This is where they're inconsistent with this , because I mean , jaden Torres is a returning state qualifier . Why is he the 10 seed Right , right , right , like it's just not consistent .
Speaker 2I'm fine with it , obviously , but right , right , but I don't want , I don't want Andy to be lower but as far as the pick goes like , why would you put him way ?
Speaker 6I just don't understand Like they they valued so much state , previous state , you know and so it's like a head scratcher .
Speaker 2All right . So that was . That was the first , the first mass right there , because that's definitely what's going to be happening . We'll see exactly how it goes , but D1 , 113 . Um , I'm going to go with Brayton on this one . I think Brayton's winning it . Uh sorry , bast , I hate that . You know friends of those guys too , but it's , it's just as far as just to watching these guys wrestle . This year Casey's out kind of a mission . It's his senior year , you know , I think I think that whole family has been really , I think , just kind of dialed in . Yeah , you know , so it's , it's . I think that one's going to be a tough one for Bast , but I think Bast is in the finals . Oh , and Becker , another kid I don't want to sleep on . I know he's done really well . Um , wothkey again . So here's my thing with Wothkey . I didn't know about him until like pre , like post season here . Yeah , everybody's like , oh man , he's been doing this . So I'm like I I first time hearing of this .
Speaker 6Well , he got bumped out a line of last year by Elias Schlump . Oh , okay , all right yeah , so he was good , he was doing really well .
Speaker 2And .
Speaker 6Elias , is that how you say it's a lawyer ?
Speaker 2A lawyer , a lawyer Schlump , yeah , okay , yeah , it's not my kid .
Speaker 6Yeah , I'm not . I'm not good with this You're fine . I was pointing and say that guy right there , he , that's who I'm talking about .
Speaker 2Well , yeah , I'm , I'm picking Brayton off the bat . Ethan , ethan would be number two . Um , Mike a Beckett , and I think , I think the seeds are pretty good there . Yeah , one , two , three .
Speaker 6Wathi's beat Beckett the last two times yeah .
Speaker 5Yeah , but how about that bottom of the bracket in general Beckett ?
Speaker 4Latvian Taysie .
Speaker 5Yeah , totally Wow .
Speaker 2Yeah , I think it's kind of crazy , it's weird , so that's why . So sometimes , even like looking at rankings just makes no sense . Yeah , oh yeah , like taking it now . You guys may agree with Zach , but I've never heard of someone being taken out of the rankings because they were hurt .
Speaker 6I never heard of that Well , it happens every week on my rankings .
Speaker 2Yours , yes , but I've never seen it before , oh then now you have . That's cool . Oh God , but that's it I , that's my pick . I think those seeds are pretty good . Obviously , like everybody's saying wasky , it's kind of a weird spot for him , but I think that there's a dark horse , thiago Giordola , is that how you say his last name ?
Speaker 5from .
Speaker 6Wilma , yeah , he's the eight seed and he be Andy in the middle school state last year , five to four . So Gordiola , gordiola , yeah , whatever .
Speaker 2Okay , that's your sleeper .
Speaker 6Not to make the finals or anything , I'm just saying he could . He could definitely get on the podium at eight .
Speaker 2Seed Make some noise , yeah .
Speaker 6Okay , I could see him coming all the way back Right on Right on .
Speaker 2I get respect to the top four . I think that looks pretty accurate . I think that's kind of what I would go with too . So no arguments there . Good job , track wrestling . So um , a couple of them , so we got 120 . This one's pretty shut . I would say . I don't want to bet against Schlumpf , but Nitesl's hard to beat . Yeah like , so I'm going with . Number one's gonna be Nitesl . I'll give Aloys the number two , but Maximus Hay . I'm gonna say what that Hay's man Maximus Hay , okay , did they wrestle ?
Speaker 6I don't believe so .
Speaker 2I don't believe , so I don't see any in my nose .
Speaker 6I just came up or just came down Remember what about preseason ?
Speaker 2anything preseason to ?
Speaker 6their saw no .
Speaker 2I get a look at shit . God dang it . Oh , hail Zelensky , landon Freeman , aiden , ari Come on , man , you guys are killing me . Too many good guys . Patrick Scrone's that's another good name , um , so I guess , oh Jesus , still gonna be Nitesl , but it's a toss up for me between Schlumpf and Hay , though Newville's gonna have a hard time with Hay . That's just gonna be a rough match . I mean , don't get me wrong , love Newville has been around us for a long time too , but I just don't see him being Maximus Hay . He's just too fast .
Speaker 5Yeah , I was gonna ask you what's swinging the deal for you there ? Speed ? Yeah it's speed on that .
Speaker 2And again , you know I've seen Olin's always been able to catch a couple guys here and there , but I just think the speed's just a little beyond him on this one . But then Aloys God Aloys is real tough and physical .
Speaker 5His napdots are crazy .
Speaker 2Yes , very heavy handed wrestler , um , but Max doesn't need to tie up . That's the thing Max can work from outside .
Speaker 5You can score from space .
Speaker 2Yeah , absolutely .
Speaker 6He can do that . He can do that sweep . So I mean , the one thing I'm gonna say is like when he got beat by Wendling or whatever Valder's , he controlled him on top , and that's something Schlumpf can do .
Speaker 2Yes , for sure he's gotta take him down first . Yeah right .
Speaker 6He may have to Well , he always picked top . I know Coach likes to do that .
Speaker 2Yeah , that's true . Um , you know I'm gonna go .
Wrestling Bracket Predictions and Analysis
Speaker 2I'll give Schlumpf a pass on this one . I'll let him he'll get into the finals . It's gonna be a tough match . Oh yeah , that's gonna be great . I'll be watching that one , for sure . But then you know , aiden Ari , I think , is gonna be the one that's obviously going up against Nitesville . I just don't know how that would go 41-9 , 51-2 .
Speaker 6It already happened twice , it was 3-2 .
Speaker 5Oh okay , I mean 3-2 , that's pretty dang close .
Speaker 2That's what I'm saying . I'm like I don't know 10-2 on the second one . Yeah , but he's been turning up the heat a lot in that last part of the season here Ari has been . So it's like I'm still going with Nitesville . His mom's gonna hate me , ari's mom's gonna hate me , but that's where I'm gonna go . Nitesville's winning it . I'm gonna give Schlump the nod to second and I think , hey , nitesville , no , I'm gonna go with Ari .
Speaker 6Third the Flayder beat Max .
Speaker 2Hey , yeah , yeah , I see Ari getting past those guys for third , so I think that's how that's gonna go .
Speaker 6That'll be a very impressive freshman to get third in this bracket . Yes , that'd be great .
Speaker 2Yeah , I think he's capable . Okay , good , any comments ? Anything touch on that bracket , steve .
Speaker 4No , I'm good with that .
Speaker 2Okay , all right , sounds good . Glad past testing that one All right . D1-126 . Let's see , we got Carter Freeman on top . Then we got the man Easton Cooper , torren Kuo-Kannen , brady Gallagher , logan Klosson , kade Aberg , dammit Kade , why are you the sixth seed ?
Speaker 2Oh , it's because he's a freshman Okay , so here's what I'm gonna do . It's gonna be a tough match . He's gonna get . I think Aberg's gonna make it to Cooper . I don't know that Cooper is gonna lose to Aberg , though I see Carter Freeman making it to the finals . You got some dogs in this fight here , chris , so I'll put my two cents worth out here and I'll let you roll with what you got going on .
Speaker 5All right .
Speaker 2But I do have cash getting out of the quarters . The first round , freeman's gonna be a tough match . I'll give , let's see . I'm Aberg's third , aberg's third , and then you got Freeman first , cooper second , cash fourth . I don't know who's fifth . I don't know who would make it into the fifth place spot . Yeah could be .
Speaker 6Cold to .
Speaker 2Chateau .
Speaker 6He's got a long way to go if he loses that first one .
Speaker 5That's my fourth , If you like . If you like botting for fourth , well , we better win that first one . I think you are . I think you're on that one . That's the plan , but hey , I think you got it . He's just like a brother on top .
Speaker 5Slippery . I like our draw there . Will Russell Hardt see what happens ? I'll be serious . The number seven seed Hayden Shalabi . I'm gonna predict him to get up . It might be sixth but he's gonna go ahead of his spot . He saw me on the water and he was way better than I was thinking he was gonna be when he went out there . We had to beat him . I see , who would it have been ? It might have been , I can't remember what it would have been .
Speaker 2What's 26 ? It ?
Speaker 6might have been even no .
Speaker 5Ellerman , ellerman , ellerman , yeah , ellerman , but okay , it was way close , he was tough , he was solid .
Speaker 2I'll put him number five .
Speaker 5There you go .
Speaker 2We cash , Russell cash beats him . That's where I'm going .
Speaker 6You heard it here first .
Speaker 2First , folks chase me down at the coal center . I don't care , Better be . Chase me with pizza though . That's all I have to say . That's my round out . That's a nice little bracket right there .
Speaker 6Yeah , I mean Logan Clausen's four times 12 fire . That's a tough 11 seed , but Averg's really good .
Speaker 2Yeah , I just can't get past Averg . He's been getting some decent matches on his belt . I'm really pulling for Averg . Good luck , Abbey . All right , D1-132 .
Speaker 5I'm excited for this one .
Speaker 2I don't even want to talk about it . I don't want to hear from Peters if I say the wrong thing . I'm pulling for Petey , duda , duda , duda , but there's also Nolan . You know , there's Nolan , ski-ba , ski-ba . That was just so damn hard to look past because Pee-Dee you know , dammit , pee-dee's winning it . I'm calling it . You guys are going to pick something else . I can smell it already . It's fine , it's fine , it's fine . I'm going to stay true to Kokona on this one . I'm pulling with Petey . Second Kellen Sorry , kellen , you can punch me at the Cole Center . It's fine , nolan man , I mean talking about tough bracket dude . Two tough guys you can get past . I think you can get past Lucas . I have a hard time looking at either one of you getting past Kellen Wolbert , though . That's why I'm pulling with Luke . I'm voting with my heart on this one I got to . There's just too much at play to sit here and try and balance it out and then act like I know what I'm talking about . I'm just voting on my heart , lucas Peters , just because of one .
Speaker 5That'll be the third time this year , right ? Yeah , Don't be too excited . Yeah , it would be a five , two and three .
Speaker 2That would be awesome .
Speaker 5I hope we get this out , because I'd like to see it .
Speaker 2Well , and he was ahead , the last one , he was ahead three to nothing .
Speaker 6Yeah , and then he got taken down . Taken down and rode out .
Speaker 2Yeah , four to three it's crazy I was like dude , you're right there , but anyways . So that's where I'm going with that one , Not to sleep on any of
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Speaker 2these other guys . Let's talk about Luke Kamish . I know he's obviously seated pretty well . He's doing all right . 24 and two . I want to say Peyton Olberg . It's another one that the guys have been bringing up a lot , so maybe he can be a guy that kind of outplaces his seating . But yeah , that's what I got . Much luck to those three Kellen , Nolan and Lucas .
Speaker 6This is going to be another head scratcher , Like I mean , Nolan was a qualifier right , Correct that 120 .
Speaker 5Hey , it's being that sectional runner up that that'll kill you .
Speaker 6I know , like , but it's just crazy . Like Brody Toledo , I mean , you guys have very similar records and you were a state qualifier last year , and then the national champ is valued over a state qualifier .
Speaker 5I believe so on the that's crazy .
Speaker 6That's crazy to me . I don't know .
Speaker 2I know , man , I'm telling you , that's why I was starting to do Midwest rankings like just the Midwest .
Speaker 6Yeah , I mean I got Nolan third , Like that's what I have him ranked .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's crazy , it's absolutely nuts .
Speaker 6I know they don't go off my rankings or anything , I know that , but I'm just saying like that's that was . That was shocking to me .
Speaker 2What do the so like ? So track obviously has its own equations , right , and its own filters and things like that . But what does the WIA do they ? What do they use any type of ranking for any type of things that they do ?
Speaker 6I don't know how that works . Every time you go above somebody , you just get a point for everything , like when you got something above somebody , you get a point . But that , what if ?
Speaker 2you win a championship . What do you mean ? Like , do you have a championship in your sport , does that give you extra points ?
Speaker 6I mean , I would think so , does it I ?
Speaker 2have no idea . Yeah , I would think so , melanie and I didn't talk about that in our conversation . Yeah , Okay , so we got D1 138 . This is pretty easy for me , tyson Peach . Sorry , that's pretty cut and dried for me . I know other guys like I was surprised to see Joel Sullivan at 138 . Yeah , he was like 152 the other year , so I don't know if he shrink 138 .
Speaker 6Two years ago because Grayson wrestled him in the semis .
Speaker 2I love Tristan . Tristan North , great kid , great competitor . He's going to have a hard time with Declan the . I love JD . I can't believe JD's 138 . Another kid that I thought was going to win how is Peach second when he took fourth and fifth .
Speaker 4Yeah , declan was third last year Got third . Okay , I'm looking at their auto feeds .
Speaker 6Yeah .
Speaker 4But that's not listed under the wrestler .
Speaker 2Peach is Declan's not , I'm going to put Collin McDowell . Obviously , grayson wrestlers don't think he can beat Tyson . So I see Tyson and Declan in the finals . Tyson's going to wipe the floor with Declan . And then I'm going to put Declan in the finals . Tyson's going to wipe the floor with Declan and then , careful , not on that one . I'm not Sorry , guys , that's that one , I'm just going to go out there . And on that one , eddie Schrader not sleeping on him . You know , honestly , I think Eddie could wind up in the back with Collin .
Speaker 5I've got notes in red about Eddie Schrader , which means it's important .
Speaker 2Okay , we need to talk about him . Oh , absolutely , his tough kid . He's got a lot of good points . He's got a lot of good points .
Speaker 5He's got a lot of good points . He's got a lot of good points , so he does what he got , because what are the losses ? Who are the losses to the ?
Speaker 6Well , and he wasn't a qualifier ever Last year . He didn't . No .
Speaker 2Oh , he's only lost to Nina . He's only lost to Nina . He's got three to cook and one to her , okay so he'll be .
Speaker 5He'll be . He'll be on the podium , he has . We talked about how impressed we were with the skulls from Kiyoska when we went through the D2 stuff . Yeah , and he's got a win over skulls three to two .
Speaker 2Oh shit .
Speaker 5Yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah , for sure . Yeah , the boy can scrap a little bit . Yup , yup , that's right , I see . I see Eddie in the in the backside with with Collin wrestling for third . You may see north In the fourth , fifth match . He's just got , he's got a tough side there .
Speaker 6I mean I'm not sure he gets by by credit filler . How do we say it ?
Speaker 2Right , right , yup , exactly . So we'll see how that goes . But hopefully it doesn't take a second one on the backside . But that'll be an interesting fun one to watch . But I got Peach all the way on that one , so that's how that's going . Okay . So we get D1 , 144 on top , jacob , I think . As much as I don't want to go against the Sarbacher thing , I mean Jacob's got to get one eventually , right ?
Speaker 5Yeah , I've been impressed with Jacob this year , Obviously if he's been really good this first two seasons . But well , he's just gone to another level . Yup , he's just his motor and his focus and just the aggressiveness that he's picked up this year . He's way beyond what he had last year . I think he's on a mission .
Speaker 2For sure , for sure , and that's the other thing too . Is , I mean , just looking at the field ? That's that is here . I mean , it's not like he didn't have challenges here and there to , you know , to have to wrestle kids to be able to take an L , and he hasn't taken an L . So yeah , and that kind of spells it out . So I got her winning it . You know , doomer's a tough kid , been around him for quite some time . I do think that he could make his way to the semis . If he does , though , doomer's going to have a hard time with Sarbacher . Did Doomer take any losses to any of these guys ? Like fish , we're three losses too .
Speaker 5Doomer has a split with Rabidu before one win and lost by pin the four seed from German town .
Speaker 6Yeah , he lost to an Illinois kid and he lost to Sullivan Ramos three to one .
Speaker 2Okay , okay .
Speaker 6All right , I'm pretty sure Rabidu probably headlocked him Probably .
Speaker 2Probably did . All right , so that's that's where I'm going to go with that one . I got her first . I'm going to go Sarbacher second . I would say it's going to be between Doomer , doomer and Pinecouse or Plomdale . I'm going to say Plomdale's going to make it back there . You know , pick a , pick , an odd one there . Cool , all right , I'm going to pick Jay . Called to get on the podium out of the seven seed .
Speaker 5Oh yeah , all right .
Speaker 6Now is that Dennis's ? I believe so . Yeah .
Speaker 2I think so . Yeah , all right On to 150 . D1 , 150 . The Dushato show . He's the number one . I just don't see Sully beating him . Here's my thing Dushato seems so damn big for the weight that he wrestles . Is it the shoulder brace that he wears that makes him look that big ? Because he looks , he looks huge . He's at 145 last year , wasn't he ?
Speaker 6Yeah , he was 45 .
Speaker 245 last year . So he took a little break . He's up to 150 this year . I was like , how does that kid make a 145 ? He looks like he's 165 . Yeah , so it's good to see that he's up a weight bracket . But I have Wyatt win Neabauer , you got skin in the game . I do the fit here . Okay , let me tell you something just from observing Henry Watt , your wrestling . Okay , henry likes to get a little wild and crazy , like a little unorthodox , like to roll around , like do a little front .
Speaker 6I'd say he's just baseline .
Speaker 5Yeah , oh yeah , baseline , d , baseline . All this is how you chalk it up .
Speaker 2Dushato is going to be a rough .
Speaker 5Right on the technique manual Step by step .
Speaker 6Yeah , he's probably real easy to scout .
Speaker 2That book that Kerry Kohl had . Wait , wait , wait , wait . You didn't look like that picture right there . Hold on , but it's going to be tough . Dushato knows how to scramble . I was getting at it . Henry has a knack for getting out of positions while also possibly getting into a position that he may not favor .
Speaker 2It's kind of funny . It's fun listening to Liam when he would go into Nazare practice with those guys . He'd roll around with Henry once in a while . He's like Henry keeps trying to do this damn front roll and he does it every single time I wrestle , but we got Colin the group man . I honestly I think he's going to be a little bit more focused on that . But just Colin the group man . Honestly , that draw right there is like couldn't you just tell that they wrestled the same ?
Speaker 6team like four weeks in a row . Yeah , I mean we beat the eight seed 10-0 .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't get what is going on .
Speaker 5Hey , I've been doing this way too long to look past that orange singlet there . That's , let's just say that's good , that's good .
Speaker 2Hey , I tell you what if we were , if we were at Neenor Oshkosh North , we'd be saying the same thing . No , we're just now , we're just surrounded by it . So , so I got . I still have Colin placing higher than his , his seed . Yeah , I have Colin in the top five at least . I don't have him seventh or eighth . I have Colin being able to come back to get something . You got to chat . Oh , that's just going to be tough . Even if you do make it through to the finals , you're not winning that . Neither is Henry , and neither is Sullivan or a mouse . No , those guys are winning that . Yeah , so my top is Wyatt , and then I'm going to go , and then I'm going to go . I'm going to put Henry number two . I see Henry , henry , getting to the finals . It's , it is what it is . And then I got Colin making his way to the back . I want to say third with Sully , and then the fourth , fifth would be whoever .
Speaker 6And I knew I didn't go that far , that's Sam Zanton , I don't know 42 and 0 . He hadn't had a lot of significant yeah wins , but he I mean to be undefeated at this point . The season's got to for some and for sure .
Speaker 2What school is that ? Where is he ? Middleton , that's Madison area .
Speaker 6I'm a petition . Yeah , I'm excited to see how this one shakes out .
Speaker 5Yeah , that's I could find for that freshman from Middleton . He's got a 4 to 2 win over the 11 seed from Baraboo . So yeah , OK , OK , that's what I could find .
Speaker 2Right , alright , 157 . This is shutting in close right here for first place . Anyways , charlie Merlard will win it . I love me some paint . Lee is a cacona kid , but I see Peyton probably top three . If not , I'm going to give him top five . I think he's been doing really well this year . He's been turning on the afterburners . He's been making some decent wins , I think at the beginning of the season . Maybe there's just some couple matches here and there that were a little fuzzy for him , but I think he's got his brights on right now I think he beats Ray Number one and one .
Speaker 2Yeah , one and one against each other . I think he'd be able to beat Ray again . So I'm going to give , I'm going to give Peyton a nod all the way up to the semis I don't want to say finals , because it's going to be pretty tricky in that last part , that Kapilini I mean he beat that's . That's what I'm saying Kapilini . I've seen him wrestle a couple times . This is going to be a tough match .
Speaker 6Is that the kid that's from like California ?
Speaker 2Yes , yes , I think I think Liam wrestled him in the off season .
Speaker 6He was here last year , but I think he moved in from California last year .
Speaker 5Okay , so is that right ? It just seems weird to me . Here's another one that you couldn't believe . It was Eddie Straiters first time at the Coles Center .
Speaker 2Peyton Lee also yeah , he's also pretty ridiculous to me .
Speaker 6He's also not been at his real weight because he's been behind Grayson , you know . Oh yeah . True , yeah , so he's always wrestling . This is I mean . I knew he was always wrestling up . Really he could probably be 50 this year too , but he's so I missed it .
Speaker 2Stephanie already messaged a while back about 15 minutes , which said that that's fair . Yeah . I would assume it's because of Aiden yeah . Yeah . I love again . I love Aiden , kellan , both those kids that Liam got to wrestle with , aiden and I got to meet Kellan as well . And great family , great kids .
Speaker 6But this is another seating thing . I had like we're six , but we beat Schneider twice . Oh yeah , we won by one the first time , but last time I think we majored maybe 10 to 4 . Missed him too .
Speaker 5Yeah , it was 10 to 4 the second time . Yeah .
Speaker 2Man . Okay , so I got to step back here because I forgot Rylin was in there . That was that's my bad . Elijah Terrell is another good one , but the skill and speed is not there with some of these guys like Ramona , be able to probably beat him , you know , if they got to a finals kind of situation . But with Rylin Schneider , that kid's getting used to his size . Finally , and that's that was kind of the , I think , the struggle he had in the beginning of the season and now he's getting his stride Damn it .
Speaker 5He's got a lot of matches against guys in this bracket too . Yeah , correct .
Speaker 2So , and I mean obviously the matches against Peyton were always tough .
Speaker 6He was up , we came , we came back on him in the dual member . That was a really good match .
Speaker 2Yeah , I think I'm going to . I think I'm going to put Peyton and Rylin in for third place . That's my , that's my guess on that one , but Charlie's winning that one . So , sorry guys , that's all Charlie's . All right , 165 . I'll let you guys talk .
Speaker 5Hey , did we talk about the fifth seed mayor for Mount Horob the freshman ? No , we did not . He's got a pin over the two seated .
Speaker 6Cappellini oh yeah , that's another throw that out there
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Speaker 6, yeah . Yeah , I just keep complaining about the seeds .
Speaker 4I keep complaining Head to head doesn't make any difference .
Speaker 2Yeah Right , that's kind of what we're seeing here , like there's just a big trend of doesn't matter that you beat them here , we're going to put you here anyways , it's even been like , even when there are four or five like at D2 , 106 , there were four or five and it didn't move them above them .
Speaker 6I guess they were split , but it's still like the last when you would think , yeah , that's weird .
Speaker 2The head to heads are what bothered me , though . Yeah , like why wouldn't you know ?
Speaker 5Hey , we'd been the eight seed from Rapids . Yeah , so he's going to outplace this seed . Yeah .
Speaker 2That's one kid I want to put back definitely in the top five . But why Ben's definitely top five ? I think it's going to be a scrap for third , fourth and fifth you know the sixth , that area but I just I'll put top five . But right now I got to play a little favoritism and I'm going to put Payton in the third place match and then Schneider's . Just I think Schneider beats Weidman , I do , I do , I think there's this a little more physicality there from Rylan , yeah , but I didn't see from Ben . But it doesn't mean that Ben doesn't mean he has to be that way . It just seems like Rylan will be able to kind of , I don't know , I'll last him .
Speaker 6Yeah , I'm excited to see that freshman . He's the mayor kid . Yeah , he's a three time youth state champ and I know that doesn't mean much at this level , but it has to be a little bit .
Speaker 2Yeah , something that carries over , you know ? Yeah , all right , 165 . I don't know anybody . I have no idea who's in 165 . I don't know any of these guys . None of these guys . It was . Caleb Denney yeah .
Speaker 1That's my question , because I haven't seen any of these guys .
Speaker 4That's me you need about this brackets .
Speaker 2So , that's me , nicholas Eli Schlust Schlust . Did he wrestle him ? No , he didn't wrestle Schlust . He hasn't wrestled Denny yet he's wrestled Guerrero . He's not wrestled Pember . He was supposed to wrestle Stammer at freestyle . He forfeited that because his shoulder hurt while he already qualified for Fargo , so it didn't matter .
Speaker 6He wrestled Kenny Vaughn .
Speaker 2Yep , yep , he attacked him . Yeah , I don't know , I'm not making a pick . I think it'll jinx it .
Speaker 6Yeah , I mean that's fair .
Speaker 2I really don't want to put my two cents' worth on that because I think obviously everybody knows what I'm going to be cheering for . But I don't want to . I want to put it on the university will , but I think he needs to do it more than I do . Yeah .
Speaker 5Hey , how about this ? All right , those top four seeds , yeah . All underclassmen , right , yeah . Yep Combined record is 181 and three .
Speaker 6Yeah , what ? Yeah , that's pretty impressive yeah .
Speaker 5Okay , yeah , that jumped out to me .
Speaker 6Yeah , the semis will be like this is one of the best like seeded as far as , as far as . Yeah , like well , I'm just saying how they , how it looks on the paper .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 6Because Denny was a runner-up . Last year Liam was fifth , you know and Katie was , but Katie was a returning place and and they put Leonard over him Was what did Leonard place in D2 ? I can't remember . Katie was fifth last year , yeah , and Leonard got fifth in D2 .
Speaker 2Yes , yep , then that boils down to records then yeah , then it makes sense .
Speaker 5Yep , but let's just look at , look at Katie and Hughes , at that potential Thursday night match . Oh yeah , I mean Wow .
Speaker 6On Alaska . Is that how you say that I ?
Speaker 5mean I don't know much about him , but the record looks good . Yeah , I mean he hasn't ?
Speaker 6he was only lost as to Wasley , oh yeah 17-nothing though .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , attacked , yeah , it'll happen . Yeah , yeah , I mean , honestly , I don't . I , yeah , I don't think it's gonna be Osiris . Yeah , I don't think , I don't think it's gonna be Osiris .
Speaker 5Or I don't think it's gonna be Osiris . I don't think it's gonna be Osiris . What about the final third or final match of O'Donnell ?
Speaker 2and Leonard , I mean O'Donnell going to be a rematch at the Fort Plymouth State tournament . Yep , they wrestle the Highlander .
Speaker 5Those two wrestled at the Highlander and Eli Leonard won that one Okay , and that was .
Speaker 2I mean , it wasn't handily . That was kind of back and forth if you watch the match . That last four points where he got 10 were kind of . I think O'Donnell got kind of caught off guard . He took them down on a double leg and he wound up on his back , so he got two extra points out of there .
Speaker 2And that was towards the end of the period too , so it was a close match up until that end . But yeah , that's definitely going to be a good match . I definitely want to see those guys wrestle again . This whole bracket is going to be exciting . Yeah , that's Isaac . We're always got a decent background . So , yeah , there you go . I'm not making picks on that one , but I can tell you who I'm cheering for . So there's that 175 . Stolfel yeah , he's a beast . Yeah , kid's huge . Like I don't know anybody that's going to be able to touch him . I don't know Kaden Brandenburg , don't get me wrong , he's still . I think he was caught in last year . I think that kind of looked like he was smaller than he should have been , like this year would be nice for him to be up to that size . But at the same time , too , it's like Stolfel's just Stolfel's just so overpowering .
Speaker 6Either that or he's wearing like an extra small single , I don't know yeah .
Speaker 2What are you trying to prove ?
Speaker 6He looks huge .
Speaker 2Yeah , he's huge , so I got Stolfel on that one all the way , so not to be left out . I see Guy Fraley . I think if Guy's able to come out top five , he's doing pretty good . I don't think that seating is necessarily fair . I think he's higher than that .
Speaker 4I got hot in the final .
Speaker 6Yeah , that's , that's hot . What was that , steve ? I got hot .
Speaker 4I got hot , I got hot , I got hot .
Speaker 2I got hot , I got hot , I got hot , I got hot I got hot , I got hot , I got hot , I got hot I got hot , I got hot I got hot he was .
Speaker 4he was a I don't know how to say it politely . He was a very questionable call from the finals last year .
Speaker 6Oh yeah .
Speaker 2Nice , okay , okay . So that's a I kind of see where some one , twos and threes are here . The other guys , I I don't have enough info on these guys . Oh , and Grisbach , I know it was good Marshfield and I remember him from last year , but he beat Fraley six-three earlier . I got sprangers definitely making top five . Yeah . Yeah .
Speaker 6Yeah , Sprangers and Schultz wrestled at the East East Troy duals . So that yeah , 10 , five sprangers .
Speaker 2Okay , yeah , I got . I got Sprangers top five easy . Oh , I agree , if not , maybe higher . He said dude the kids , he's so unassumingly athletic . Oh yeah , it's weird , very weird . He's one of the like he . He wrestles like he's 120 pounds .
Speaker 5I was just glad that See some of these day hairs there because of him .
Speaker 6I was just glad that Chris moved his guy up , because those matches were getting way too nerve-wracking those were painful . Oh my God , oh God . We came out on the top side of a lot of them , but it was still like , oh my gosh , they've never been , I've never like . That was just so evenly matched kids , yeah .
Speaker 2So that's , that's the . That'll spell that one out . I got Stofo winning it , Otte be second and then you'll have the rest of the guys . Like I said , I got Sprangers going to top five , probably going to have Guy Fraley top five . That's about it . I don't know the other guys . Sorry guys , Colton Schultz I know of , but I don't know him well enough to be able to place him anywhere right now . So that's what I got , Okay .
Speaker 6I know he was D2 last year and it came up , so almost almost done your way in the last couple D1 190 .
Speaker 2Um , you know , Ethan Winkleman looks really good . Yes , he does . I don't know who the one seat is . I've never heard of him , yeah .
Speaker 6So it's hard for me to pick Myra . So , myra Mirror , yeah , he's a he's , he's , he's all right . I mean , I think he's qualified for the Olympic hey okay , Chris , let's , let's put .
Speaker 2let's put pen to paper here . Does Aiden score a point on your solo Could ? He score a point on myra , solo my Aiden . Yeah , could he score a take down , aiden , we love you . Stop it , don't . Don't judge your coach .
Speaker 5I love Aiden to death , but no , no , no , come on , I thought .
Speaker 2I could get one . No , man , it's a quick ankle grab Pick some , pick some up .
Speaker 6No no .
Speaker 2Okay , I'm just .
Speaker 5I'm just beaten college guys Right , come on .
Speaker 6He's kind of he's beaten college basketball champ .
Speaker 2NCAA champs for crying out loud . That's all right . He can still get taken down .
Speaker 4Oh , but that was in freestyle . You got to get , got to get .
Speaker 5That's right .
Speaker 2Yeah , different , what's different ? Okay , so we got mirror solo winner Might as well . Just forget about that one . So I again , I get an MP . Yeah , I don't know , I mean I haven't seen him wrestle , but the name obviously he's got . Yeah , he's got some clout with the name . We got Kyler Tritz . I can't , obviously , I'm not going to overlook a tritz . Yeah , um , aiden . Aiden is still looking good . He's a solid wrestler .
Speaker 6Um , I mean Cole Cole only lost the tritz eight , four and 11 , five , so that's a . I think that's a very wonderful match for an item .
Speaker 2I would agree . I see I could see Aiden Aiden making you know the . I could see him making the finals . I could , it really could . I have faith . I have faith in in Aiden , right , I don't know these other guys Like I don't know , I don't know , wickelman , I don't know .
Speaker 6We drew lost to him at state last year .
Speaker 2Well , last year , yeah , okay .
Speaker 6He's apparently a pinning machine . He's got like over a hundred pins .
Speaker 2Man .
Speaker 3Well , it's good luck to pull up for you to make the finals .
Speaker 2So there you go . All right . Thanks , you bet you a man . See , I'm not , I'm not all about , just all the number one guy , conner's . Conner's going to win it . We know that . But I got Aiden climbing his way there . Kyler tritz is going to be a little tough , that's going to be tough , but I'm going to , I think . I think he can pull it off . If he doesn't , then I'll bug him in the hallway . Okay , all right , we got D one , two , 15 bracket . This is going to be kind of weird .
Speaker 5We don't want to talk about a 27 and three freshman from Middleton at the 11 seed . I'm kind of being serious , it's weird . I like what is going on 90 still right . What's that ?
Speaker 2You talking about 90 , still right .
Speaker 5Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 5Because , remember , not a couple of way classes back , they had the undefeated freshman .
Speaker 2Yes , middleton did . Yeah , yeah , 27 and three , 11 .
Speaker 5Maybe they got something going on . We don't know .
Speaker 2He's a friend , so that was the other thing too is because obviously you guys had no seeding criteria . So but yeah , he's , he's . I don't know so much for all those wins . Huh , I mean his brother moved out .
Speaker 6His brother was a senior , moved down to 175 for him and then his brother didn't make it .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , his brother was a senior . Yeah , wow , yeah , that should be a fight .
Speaker 5Those are fun times around the dinner table at home .
Speaker 2Fight I remember this my words .
Speaker 6Acer Clark from a Riverside . Yeah , we wrestled drew , wrestled in a state last year , and that that dude is put together Like he is he could I mean he put drew to his back and like we had to fight like hell to get off back in the third period ?
Speaker 2No , it was in . You got tired .
Speaker 6No , right at the start .
Speaker 2Right at the start . He bare hugged him and I'll say he drew , got tired man .
Speaker 6Yeah .
Speaker 2He was going to dark water . Yeah for sure . All right , Ainsen , claire , garrett Kachinsky , that's going to be the final . I don't care who you are , I'm calling it that's going to be your final . I don't know , I don't see anybody . I don't see anybody on Garrett's side . That would . That would beat him . Yeah , I mean , jesus Gonzalez is undefeated , but did he wrestle him ? Obviously not .
Speaker 2I would say but I think Garrett's the number 10 . This is seated well Agreed . So yeah , reed's Berg's good Yep , that looks the way it's going to go . Good job Track wrestling
Wrestling Coaches Discuss Sportsmanship and Success
Speaker 2. High five on a third one , hey can I just throw something out here ?
Speaker 5Throw it , and you guys know me well , I'm not giving my guy a shameless plug or anything like that . Oh yeah , all those guys that might be watching that just miss going to state , or those guys that are toiling away and just wondering man , is this worth it ? Am I going to be back on the mat next year ? I've got a story for you and it just happens to be one of my guys . If I knew this story from another team , I would share it right now too , because kids , young men , hey , stick with it . You never know . You never know . The next week , the next day , the next practice , the light bulb might come on . Okay , my guy right there . Austin McHugh , right , the eight seed . Okay , oh yeah , yup , 35 and 13 . Regional sectional champion . Okay , that's awesome . The varsity record 11 and 19 . Damn , 11 and 19 .
Speaker 5One year later , 35 and 13 . He's the sectional champ , yeah .
Speaker 6He's just got better throughout the season too , like I've noticed a big jump during the season . That's been yeah .
Speaker 5It's not just , it's my . I guess if I heard the story from somebody else , I'd say he'll need to share . For all the younger guys out there that are just wondering if all the toil and hard work is worth it again One more shot . Oh yeah , that's awesome . The next day might be the day the light comes on .
Speaker 2I'll put , I'll put in top five . Yeah , just because of that he gets , he gets at least top five . He's going to beat his , he's going to beat his seed . I like that . I like that kind of story man . I like it when kids so that's the other thing . Like I always tell everybody , you know , like , oh , liam must have done really well when he was little . Hell , no , he lost . Like everything , everything , like every tournament we took him to , if you go back all the way to 2014 , 2015, .
Speaker 2Fourth , fourth fourth did not place . Fourth , fourth , did not place . He didn't care because he's still left with a medal , thanks . But at the same point it was took forever , right . Finally had to look at him and be like , look , I don't , I don't know what you're doing out there , but I expect effort . Once you started putting an effort in , oh what .
Speaker 6Yeah .
Speaker 2Then they see that work pays off , you know then , all that starts to kind of come to fruition and some of these guys don't start till later . Right , right , I think a lot of guys I guess people with you know think I got to take the wrong reality in a long time , I think , even though they have something to kick rocks a lot sooner . You know , like they're parents don't have as much control over it . If they didn't want to wrestle on the guys that do that , I got a lot of respect for that . I was a quitter , I was the dude , I was like I suck at this , I'm out . You know , I'll save the spot for another else that can come and take the warm seat but , I think it's awesome when guys are able to put that together .
Speaker 2Go Smash him , dude . Yeah , 285 , another slant another tough one yeah .
Speaker 6So you got Cole and Brock , probably a rematch of the finals last year . Hey , was that the finals ? I ?
Speaker 2don't , I don't remember that one . I think we're gone .
Speaker 4I think Brock was down at two , two twenty last year .
Speaker 6Yeah , oh , that's right , yeah he had Sinclair then , yeah , sinclair in the finals .
Speaker 2So Brock to Cole one . Yes , you else is in your Nehemiah . I'm putting Nehemiah top five . Grant Stromberg it's fun to watch . He is fun to watch , so that's .
Speaker 6Anything could happen with that guy , apparently him , and that mosquito kid , or just .
Speaker 2Whenever they wrestle each other .
Speaker 6Yeah , they do is try and throw each other .
Speaker 2It's like a brother to the inch . Yeah , I start . Yeah , I'll throw first I .
Speaker 5See , aren't only beats drumber , I should say only it's five , eight , three .
Speaker 6Yeah .
Speaker 5And that could be a seeds hold out , could be like it's on my final could definitely be interesting .
Speaker 6Yes , I'm from burgers definitely stepped it up this year . He used to be like only throws and now he's got a couple shots and he's definitely stepped his game up .
Speaker 2Yeah , I think it's gonna be . I think that's gonna be interesting . But again , some of these guys . I know that . I know Nehemiah has wrestled a couple of these guys . Yeah , I know that he's one . Obviously , cole's beating everybody . Brock is just so damn big right does another behemoth Hacker . Hey , hacker Wasn't he started doing it right towards the end of the season . I heard Jake and and I Jake , tegan home Steve talking about him , that Franklin kid yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah okay , that's I . Honestly . The rest of it's kind of a toss up . Neha , nehemiah , top five easily I'm putting , and then Brock and Brock and Cole in the finals , but I just don't . Garth Martell , I know from West . I mean , I know he's been doing good , but I don't know that the foreseed is that one's kind ?
Speaker 5of struck me too .
Speaker 2Yeah , did he go to state last year ? Yeah , did he ? What did he place ? No , no , that's weird foreseed . I don't see him making top four . I See him maybe to I podium . I see podium , but I don't see top four like that . But that's me . Well , that's it . Folks . Two , two hours , yeah , that's it . There's . Went through a lot of brackets with talk about a lot of kids , talked about some stories , brought up some good stuff from past . Steve , yeah , what you said that you're not repping this , are you repping somewhere this weekend ?
Speaker 4still , though , no , no , I will be Nothing . No , I'll be sitting down amongst crowd .
Speaker 2Nice , nice , what section .
Speaker 4One twenty two a it's a box .
Speaker 2Hey , oh , it's an obelisk , so you're protected . Okay , we need to keep you somewhere where people can't get at you .
Speaker 4So you can throw things off .
Speaker 2Oh man , you're already given ideas Well , so you'll be down there . But then you said you have a college event that you're co or you're repping at the weekend after .
Speaker 4Yeah , yeah , the division three regional at Stevens point .
Speaker 2Nice , nice , okay , that should be kind of a heater . Sounds like , was it lacrosse ? And those guys ? That's all the same , right , they the same .
Speaker 4It's .
Speaker 5Did that end in a tie . Team score wise , did I see that right .
Speaker 4Yes Wow .
Speaker 2That's crazy so .
Speaker 4No , yeah , I mean Chris , you've been . I was a head coach . You've been a head coach a long time . Sometimes you have to be smart enough to control your athletes . Oh , that's what cost the title I'm gonna boy yeah , you'll get that young man lost in the semis due to a slam Wins for third and gave the loser sign To the opposing coach postman . Wow . Yeah . So yeah , it was . It was that cool . Oh .
Speaker 2See that's an all . Rq went on a rant about guys taunt three like it's doing something or whatever over the top of an opponent or flexing on them . It's not needed . Yeah .
Speaker 4Oh , it's not , you know get up , yeah , and I act like you've been here before correct , I think this it . Chris has heard my speech .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 4I openly tell the kids You're not gonna like every call I make . You are not right and that is your right . I get that . If you're upset about it , keep your heck you're on , walk off the mat and leave the gym . Go someplace where I can't see you or I Don't have to make that call .
Speaker 2Yeah , yep , they go bitch about it .
Speaker 4Yeah , yeah , I mean it's own Correct and I get it . I was a competitor . I Hated to lose Yep , but the way we were brought up , you didn't talk to the official and you sure as heck didn't bark at your coach because that was gonna be a long . Monday .
Speaker 2Yeah , so that's and it's an interesting fact that you're bringing up especially with the , especially with celebrating we talked about , like the Hayden halters and all that stuff that have happened in the state . So what , what are ? You kind of touched a little bit there , steve , on exactly what you guys are looking for . But Technically , what is it ? What are ? What are kids allowed to do After a match ? And obviously we all let a kid get up and he's like , yeah , he's looking at the crowd , but what , what is technically allowed allowable mat side for a kid that a ref is like , okay , I'll let that you know . How far do you guys typically let it go ?
Speaker 4Depends where you're talking . If you're talking at 30 minutes , by the letter of law okay , okay , all right .
Speaker 2If it's just a duel beginning of the season , whatever .
Speaker 4Yes , I .
Speaker 2Get excited .
Speaker 4Yeah , you know . Yeah , I mean as long as you're not in the other Athletes face . Yeah , as long as you are not taunting the other bench . You know I get it . You , you get a big win . You get a big comeback win , like the young man from Gokana did Tuesday night , last Tuesday night Ah , you know a few wants to throw his arms up in the air and in whatever . I don't care that's . That's that's part of the excitement of our sport being one-on-one .
Speaker 2Yeah , we're emotional adrenaline , that's right raw .
Speaker 4Yeah , you got to remember these kids . It is Barn on the toughest sport , because everything that happens out on that mat you have to answer to yourself to win , lose , mistake , whatever , it's all on you . Yep , you know , yep , and , and that's why , that's why you know . Gable said once you've ruffled , everything else in life is easy , you know , and it builds a foundation for these kids that that sets them up to move forward in life . And you know that I mean for me down at down at team state .
Speaker 2That's crazy .
Speaker 4The first year I roughed team state . It's arrowhead against McWanagall conference rivals .
Speaker 6Yeah .
Speaker 4I have a kid that took third ed state Wrestling the state champ from the week before .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 4State champ takes him down cradles and puts him on his back . The kid gets out of it . Reverse is on cradle them , pins up . So now this young man is extremely excited to only imagine and it locked up the dual meat for McWanagall . Oh . So I'm literally zoned in on this kid , just like just relax , let's shake hands , let me , let me raise your hand and then you can go to your team . Yes , I have . I'm literally right here with blinders . On with that kid .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 4I did not see the rest of the McWanagall team run through the circle past me . Oh no , oh no . So my own official , who will remain nameless yeah , he goes , steve , you gotta hit him for a sportsman , like I was like for what ? No , he goes . You didn't see the whole team run by you and I went . No they ran right through the ten foot circle but I was so concentrating on Getting in the shake hands and raises hand and get him off the mat . Yeah , so that's a that sucks .
Speaker 4I had to go tell Johnny banana shoes were his picky the anti-abras sportsman , like first kids running across the map . The most hideous yellow wrestling shoes when he was in college Johnny banana shoes , that's awesome .
Speaker 2I love that awesome story . Yeah , it's crazy . So that was a that's kind of like when we're watching a lot of these kids down there . I mean , liam has said that you know , like team states loud , like that's loud because it's right on top . Yeah , you know that you could go into the Cole Center and it's still loud because it's pretty packed . But you've been into preseason national . You know places and things like that where it's you kind of had that feeling . But this is this , it's different , there's different , a different gravity to it . But he's like , team state was the loudest , there was the most intense , just imagine the barn .
Speaker 4Hmm , first state championship used to be yes , yeah , yeah correct , and I mean people , askers , just . I mean oh my god man that was .
Speaker 2That was back when you could smoke and drink in those places .
Speaker 5Yeah , I was joke , but I'd be what you'd be warming up . There'd be a guy in the hallway . Yes , you have a cigarette .
Speaker 4Oh yeah , we turned out , okay yeah everything else of those , steve oh . My wife in here . She probably make an argument against being right .
Speaker 2Well , I do enjoy having these conversations and being able to sit down and look through these brackets with you guys . I appreciate it was the time that you spent doing this . It's been fun , you know . A good luck , coach , down at state . I know we'll see you down there . You guys all yep , yep , tell all the guys good luck down there . Hopefully everybody kind of gets what they wanted out of it . You never know .
Speaker 4I apologize , I didn't have much to add to the the seating of me . Obviously , I understand the seating part of it , but you're totally .
Speaker 2Hey , it was again . It was another mastermind that I wanted to have here any kind of rules .
Speaker 4I'm the official that walks in and you'll , you'll give me the lineups and I'll look at you with a blank face because I mean , I know some of the kids I I'm not , but , but I don't , I don't , I don't follow it , just so I cannot care when I step on the mat , the blow .
Speaker 5Correct , even your position . You . That's what . That's what makes you such a great official . Yeah , you officiate a match and what's going on in front of you , not what somebody's bringing in as a Ranking or this guy , that this guy's supposed to win big . So that's what makes you so good at what you do you just boom officiates .
Speaker 2That's right . That's right , that's the best and that's that's why I like this . I like this dynamic that we had to be able to kind of talk about this stuff . So Again , good luck , steve . Have fun . Not refing . Yeah , you know have fun watching , so maybe we'll see you down there walking through the hall .
Speaker 4Chris , good luck Thank you . Yeah , good luck .
Speaker 2Yep , yeah , good luck to you down there too . You'll be on the floor , me and , or in around , oh yeah down there doing your thing .
Speaker 2Yeah , keep my kid under control . It's good , it's good , all
Vision Quest Podcast Highlights Wrestlers
Speaker 2right . Well , everybody , this has been another edition of the vision quest podcast . We talked many brackets , talked about the state , talked about some really great wrestlers . Hopefully , everybody gets what they want , and you know we're gonna wind up ending this right now because it's that time of the night . So everybody join us next time . I don't know who we're gonna have on yet , but you never know , we'll put it out there boys , oh that's right , earn it .
Speaker 2I'm gonna talk to you guys afterwards . Let me play some music here . We'll be right back . Oh .
