#110 The Vision Quest Podcast WIAA Individual State Tournament Preview With The Wisconsin Grappler!

An in-depth exploration of the wrestling landscape leading up to the state tournament, highlighting key matchups and wrestlers to watch. We discuss the growing excitement, breakdown of girls' competitions, and the complexities surrounding boys' rankings and predictions.

- Girls competitions analyzed from lightweight to heavyweight 
- Significant names and anticipated matchups reviewed 
- Boys' rankings and seeding discussions explored 
- Predictions for potential upsets and breakout performances

Chapters

• 0:00 Opening Remarks and Introductions
• 16:12 Girls Tournaments Breakdown: Weight Classes and Predictions
• 46:12 Analysis of Wrestling Rankings and Bracket Dynamics
• 1:16:12 Key Matchups: Boys Bracket Predictions
• 2:01:12 Discussion on Controversial Seeds and Their Implications
• 2:46:12 Expert Picks and Fan Engagement

Transcript

Speaker 1: 1:52

Thank you. All right, man, we're live. Sorry, guys, we're late. I think I probably outdid Deke on this one, so I had to work a little late. Guys, I apologize, it's been a test so I haven't been able to sit down and test all this out, like Zach probably had this done. We're about to show you guys. Zach had this done, probably yesterday, yeah well earlier today, yeah earlier, yeah right, I had to work, so my work oh yeah just a tad late.

Speaker 1: 2:23

So just being able to present this to you guys was something I was working on. So we wanted to make sure we got this somewhat correct, because we're going to go through all. We're going to go through girls and we're going through boys. Okay, we, we're not excluding anyone. So the first round that we're going to do it's going to be girls, all the way from lightweight to heavyweight and we're going to d3. You know lightweight, some of the stuff we're going to speed through guys.

Speaker 1: 2:47

I mean there's a couple of weights here and there that either a we don't know a ton about, which it's not going to be a lot. But I mean I haven't been able to see a lot of these girls wrestle all year. So the girls are going to be the bigger struggle for me. I know a lot of them, just haven't been able to see them wrestle. So just going to kind of base a lot off of feeling and off of number specs that we have here. So the rankings in the brackets that we're about to show you are all combined. So Zach did the work of putting down their record, it looks like, as well as their name and where they're from and what they're ranked in Wisconsin Grappler.

Speaker 4: 3:22

Yes, not what their seed is.

Speaker 1: 3:24

At the wisconsingrapplercom, not what their seed is. Right, correct, correct. So is there a way to look at this and see where they're seeded Like? Do you have them where they're seated?

Speaker 4: 3:36

Yeah, this is exactly how the bracket is Right.

Speaker 1: 3:39

right, you're going to see folks when we present this thing. You're going to be able to see, like certain ones are, you know, ranked pretty well but seated not so great.

Speaker 1: 3:49

Right, you know. So if you guys have questions, put them up in the comments. As far as you know what types of things. I'll put them up for zach so that way he can see them. Hopefully, right, I'll read them out loud so that way you get them. But if you have questions, guys, we'll get them in. So, without further ado, let's present the girls. We'll get this going here. Okay, I'm going to tell you right now, folks I don't know if you can read it fully, because I tried to get it as big as I could here as far as what I'm dealing with, so I didn't have a ton of time to work with this.

Speaker 1: 4:22

It looks fine, yeah, yeah, I get it, I get it. Okay, so just me looking at it with bad eyes. On the top half we have number one Brooke Corrigan from De Pere. Yeah Well, well known name always been pretty impressive to me as far as especially the young girls coming up because she wrestled a lot.

Speaker 4: 4:43

It's Corrigan, she usually wrestles the boys schedule and this year I think she was hurt most of the year so she didn't get to wrestle. She's only had 7 matches all year she's on the top half.

Speaker 1: 4:55

we got Sidonia Roman, is that how?

Speaker 4: 4:58

you pronounce her? I think so you don't know how I am with that she's 14-9.

Speaker 1: 5:08

Let's see, we've got Catherine Cook and Freedom 37-4. I'm just breezing through names here, folks. If you can't see them, tell me, but I'm breezing through them. If you want me to read through them, I'll read through them all the way through, but I'm only looking at the ones that I'm going to comment on right now. Cassie O'Connell. I haven't been able to watch her wrestle a lot yet yeah, she's a real tough wrestler.

Speaker 4: 5:36

Who's the one? Obviously Brooke. Okay, again, if you look at this, the top is going to be one, the bottom, cassie O'Connell, is the fourth seed. Then number three, catherine Cook, is the third seed and then the two is Albert.

Speaker 1: 5:54

So you're pretty close, man, yeah.

Speaker 4: 5:55

I mean the seeds are for the top four are pretty good, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so Sure, it's just the other ones are pretty crazy.

Speaker 1: 6:05

But it is a little crazy.

Speaker 4: 6:06

Yeah, I mean they got Brynn Engel as the sixth seed and she's my fifth in the rank.

Speaker 1: 6:11

but yeah, the top five are pretty obvious in this weight. Who are the top five pretty?

Speaker 4: 6:13

obvious in this weight, who are the top five. If they aren't the top five by the end of the tournament, I would be shocked, because the top five in this weight is pretty separated from the rest of the field.

Speaker 1: 6:26

Gotcha. Honestly, I would look for bracket busters, I guess, so to say, in that five and six area. I think one through four is going to hold pretty solid. I think. Don't yell at me, guys, don't yell at me. It's terrible, please. But I'm basic because, again, I haven't been able to watch a lot of these girls wrestle all year. I've seen a couple of highlights here and there and they all look good, right, I mean the competition. The competition that these girls have is so closely knit together as far as you know how often they get to see each other Number one at tournaments. But training, yeah, you know a lot of these girls know each other and they work together a lot. So these records aren't very far off, right.

Speaker 1: 7:11

You know as far as how tight everything is Because, yeah, there's some separation. There's a couple of girls maybe that do some different tournaments or go to a couple more.

Speaker 4: 7:20

Yeah, Cassie O'Connell's only loss is to Catherine Cook, who she's also beat. That's crazy. Yeah, they just always seem to go back and forth. Oh yeah, this is a really good one to start with.

Speaker 1: 7:35

That is the G100. I like the graphics, I like what you did.

Speaker 4: 7:43

My wife, you know, she knows what the hell she's done. I would just put them in a list On a notes.

Speaker 1: 7:51

So we're going to break off Of those guys. So we basically Kind of said what we thought of that. As far as the Top four, I think maybe a toss-up between two and three, right or three, I'm sorry, three and six. Yeah, no three and four. I'm an idiot yeah, I mean no three and four Because, like you said, the record, her only loss, is Catherine Cook. Right. You know, so that could be the toss-up.

Speaker 2: 8:21

She's have to cook right you know, so that could, that could be the possible she's definitely gonna be a good match for brooke in the semis.

Speaker 1: 8:24

Nice, yeah, all right, those two semis will be really good, that's that's gonna be good. Yeah, let's see what the results are for that. So next up is the girls 107. Very odd to kind of go through some of these weights and just the weight size that they are. I think that just wow, Lily Baker got the number one seat.

Speaker 4: 8:44

Well, she's one and one with Ava Gardner and her two other losses are out of state, gotcha, yeah, so she had a really good season so far.

Speaker 1: 8:54

Where do Freedom Girls go to?

Speaker 4: 8:56

Everywhere they go to every tournament.

Speaker 4: 8:59

They're at the Northern Badger, they're at the Queen I don't know if they're at the Queen of the man or not but they go to a lot of tournaments. Yeah, I live there. Yeah, they go to a lot of tournaments, but the thing is girls, they only have one or two big tournaments and it's like they all go to a lot of tournaments there's, but the thing is like girls, they only have one or two big tournaments and it's like they all go to them, so they just see each other all year.

Speaker 4: 9:22

Yeah it's just very Crazy to see the these, these records as well.

Speaker 1: 9:28

Oh yeah, like look how close off 34 and 5, is that candy? Yeah, candy Simpson?

Speaker 4: 9:35

Yeah, yeah it just I think I don't know. Like I said, I'm the worst at this, so like, but then.

Speaker 1: 9:42

But then you got 30 and six elaine. Hey, how again. Maybe the schedules are different.

Speaker 4: 9:47

Look how close that is yeah, she just came down from 114 as well, really, yeah, so, okay, she's a little under ranked, probably, for not even where I have her. They have her at the sixth seed. Okay, so that's probably pretty close.

Speaker 1: 10:02

Alexa Thomas is not someone that I've been able to watch wrestle.

Speaker 4: 10:05

Okay, she's a really good youth wrestler. Obviously, she's only lost two as a freshman.

Speaker 1: 10:09

She's a freshman and Badger goes everywhere Does it.

Speaker 4: 10:14

Yeah, badger goes to every tournament too, too, like all of them do. All the top teams are at everything. Yeah, like it's so different from boys.

Speaker 1: 10:20

You know you can see how close all these records are to each other. It's sad to say that boys don't have the same thing, but it's a little few and far between with the guys. Yeah. But here everything is so close. So this is man. I'm excited to see this bracket.

Speaker 4: 10:34

Oh, this is man. I'm excited to see this bracket. Oh yeah, I mean, I think we'll get a rubber match between Ava and Lily and I don't know why I have them both as number two. But Ava was the number one because she had beat her last Way to go. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 10:45

I messed that up. You can yell at them on here, folks, if you want.

Speaker 4: 10:48

Yeah, please, I'll be yelling. Really enjoy it.

Speaker 1: 10:52

So I don't know. I'm pulling for Ava, yeah, I mean, and everybody's going to say that's a popular thing to do, but I've been watching her again forever too.

Speaker 2: 11:02

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 11:02

And a lot of these girls again. This is going to be tight.

Speaker 4: 11:05

Yeah, I mean the semi with Alexa and Ava will be a good one as well. Yeah, and then I think Lily gets it done.

Speaker 1: 11:13

Yeah, another good bracket, oh yeah.

Speaker 4: 11:19

I mean they're only going to get better because these younger girls, the eighth grade class, is probably one of the best that's coming in.

Speaker 1: 11:26

Is this a big young class, like as far as just this? Yeah, are they graduating? A lot of seniors.

Speaker 4: 11:32

I mean, this is like kind of the first yeah, this is kind of like the first year that they actually had it was like Brooks' senior, didn't she? Corrigan yeah.

Speaker 1: 11:39

No well Corrigan and Hoffman.

Speaker 4: 11:41

Yeah, no, Hoffman's the only sophomore. Oh, that's right. She's trying to get out of the first period in her career still, so I'm pretty sure Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1: 11:53

So that's a disparity. Oh yeah, but we'll get to that one later. That's a bigger way, but Earl's 107 looks tight. I'm pulling Abe off right Again. Everybody's going to go. Oh, this is popular. But this is so close that I want to call it that way, because that's my ace in the hole. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1: 12:13

Because there's so much competition. Yeah, oh yeah. So pull for it, we'll get the other ones pulled up, but I do Somewhere is pretty good. Yeah, and I know, going further it gets better too. Yeah, for sure. That's crazy Wow.

Speaker 4: 12:32

Yeah, and, like I said, the youth movement is coming, like these eighth grade girls are.

Speaker 2: 12:36

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 12:37

Just like this freshman class. There's a lot of good ones in them 114, girls 114.

Speaker 1: 12:44

So I'll give you guys a peek see here.

Speaker 4: 12:48

So obviously you got Taylor why don't I do this?

Speaker 1: 12:52

here I can zoom in and then we'll scroll. How's that, folks? Oh yeah, here I can zoom in and then we'll scroll. How's that, folks? Oh yeah, there we go. We'll go back over those lighter weights in a little bit. There we go, taylor. This is a bracket that I've been wanting to see how this is going to pan out with this weight Taylor waiting up on top. Let's see Kylie Krasuski. Kylie Krasuski.

Speaker 4: 13:29

I've seen her wrestle a couple times she's pretty good, I believe she placed as a freshman and she only qualified last year. She might have been up a weight because Nina had some.

Speaker 1: 13:39

That's a good progression.

Speaker 4: 13:40

That's a strong team, yeah, for sure, obviously Taylor's undefeated, yeah. Well, she's on the same path as the only other undefeated person, the freshman Cody from Princeton Green Lake. That'll be a good semi, probably Probably the final in the semi, in the semis, you know.

Speaker 1: 14:08

Yeah, yeah, cody Okay.

Speaker 4: 14:12

Yeah, I didn't put the words on here. I probably should have. I mean, is he Stonetag? Yeah, another one?

Speaker 1: 14:22

Yeah for sure. Look at that. Wow, good job girls. Yeah, this is. I'm really impressed. And now hearing from you that a lot of the top teams go to a lot of tournaments.

Speaker 4: 14:34

Oh yeah, that's pretty awesome. Definitely not shying away from competition.

Speaker 1: 14:38

That's really cool to see. I can appreciate the work that they put in, so that's high five to those girls.

Speaker 4: 14:44

Yeah, there's a lot of like great records man For as much competition as they have all year.

Speaker 1: 14:52

I'm so glad I'm not trying to call like everybody on each way, like this is wow, this is impressive.

Speaker 4: 15:02

Yeah, I think we're going to have Taylor and Izzy in the finals and I think Taylor just gets it done, because that's what she's always done. Who do you think's a dark horse? Here, though, I mean Brooke Williamson. She's had a pretty good year. I also like Williamson, she's had a pretty good year.

Speaker 1: 15:21

I also like when you watch some of these guys. Obviously there's different styles, but is there a large contrast? Do you see people switching things up? They're used to freestyle. Do you see a difference in how some of them wrestle?

Speaker 4: 15:36

You can tell the people that only work on freestyle because their bottom game is a little rough.

Speaker 2: 15:41

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 15:42

So it's they're used to like getting brought up. You can definitely tell the ones that are gearing more towards college, you know, but yeah if they're good on their feet, they're good on their feet. They're good on their feet. It doesn't matter if it's freestyle or what it is.

Speaker 1: 15:59

That is really cool.

Speaker 4: 16:00

Yeah, man. So yeah, like I said, I think Taylor and Izzy in the final. Yeah, I think the freshman has to settle for third, you think? So. Yeah, I mean, I just can't pick against Taylor until I see it happen. I mean she only has one loss in high school.

Speaker 1: 16:18

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. Man, that's impressive. Good job girls. So you can kind of hear our picks already on this, but there's so much competition that it would be hard to call the rest. You know it's wow. Okay, all right. Well, enough drool drilling over records here, let's get to the next one. Again, sorry folks, we started late. My work Wasn't awesome. We got girls 120. Now I definitely know a couple of names in this one. I think a lot of times too, when you take a look at the seeds versus your rankings. I mean so far it's been.

Speaker 1: 17:06

I mean almost perfect, yeah, almost. So that alone tells you about rankings, right that when it comes to what you, the information you put into it, as far as what you count towards things, it matters.

Speaker 4: 17:23

This one's almost chalk. It's 1 and 9, 4 and 5, 3 and 6, 7 and 2. The only one that's missing is the 8. Or the 1, or 3 and 8.

Speaker 1: 17:37

The only one that's missing is the six yep, so we got the ang on the top half with mj. I think obviously you're looking at 23 and all right, right, well, mj is on the bottom.

Speaker 4: 17:49

So like this, the way I set up, the top is only on the left and then the bottom. Yeah, so sorry, so yeah, I mean as far as first round matches go like that does up on Baker whatever from internet and bailing, that'll be a very good first round match. Yeah, a nine intense, that ranked, you know like that could go either way.

Speaker 4: 18:18

Bayport wrestles a pretty tough schedule. Those 9 losses, they're all up to pretty stiff competition. You've got to go with Angie and Albrecht. She's beat MJ. I don't know that's a tough one. Mj and Albrecht will be really close, but I just think that Angie's too good.

Speaker 1: 18:44

She practices with Taylor a lot.

Speaker 4: 18:46

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 18:53

Yeah, angie's a lot there, for sure, yeah.

Speaker 4: 18:56

And Rosemary Trish would be. Caitlin Whittier, that would be there for sure. Yeah, and Rosemary Trish, I don't know, caitlin went here that would be a good one, caitlin, yeah, oh, caitlin just came down to 20. Really, yeah.

Speaker 2: 19:10

Or maybe she went up. Actually that's a stuff I don't know.

Speaker 4: 19:12

Yeah, she went up, actually she was 14. 72. Yeah, she went up.

Speaker 1: 19:18

actually she was 14. 472.

Speaker 4: 19:20

Kid Allsacker is a really tough freshman, so we'll see how she does in her first time down.

Speaker 1: 19:25

I'm going to give Mary Prescott a chance.

Speaker 4: 19:26

Yeah, I mean how 472. 472, I like that yeah.

Speaker 1: 19:31

Number eight. I like that. I like that 472.

Speaker 4: 19:36

Yeah, this is probably the toughest weight so far as far as like.

Speaker 1: 19:39

Mary Prescott, you've got my vote for Watson 47-2. Yeah. Sorry, I'm going to put the grades on here. Go take it to A&G. Just go take it to the whole tournament.

Speaker 4: 19:52

I got you You're going to need to, because this is a meat grinder of a bracket. Here I was going to say it there's. You're going to need to, because this is a meat grinder of a bracket. I was going to say Not going to be too many easy matches in this bracket.

Speaker 1: 19:59

Not going to call an MJL, no way, but 47-2. Yeah. Who are her losses to? To MJ.

Speaker 4: 20:07

No, Mary.

Speaker 1: 20:08

Prescott.

Speaker 4: 20:10

If only there was a website for that.

Speaker 1: 20:12

What the Wisconsin Rappers. So I'm really excited, actually. Now I'm going to see if there's a way that I can tune this stuff in, if anybody has a link or knowledge of. Do you know what website it is for Zach, by chance? What website do you want to say that?

Speaker 4: 20:35

It's the NFHS.

Speaker 1: 20:37

Oh, it's the. Nfhs, because they're not doing it through what's it called anymore.

Speaker 4: 20:42

Yeah they're not doing it that anymore.

Speaker 1: 20:44

Did that end a while ago.

Speaker 4: 20:46

I think it's only been one year. I think last year it was maybe two.

Speaker 1: 20:54

This is a good bracket too. I just want to know who Mary Preston lost to? She lost to.

Speaker 4: 20:58

Charlie Raymond by fall, who's a simile girl? And MJ Newman. No by fall. When, how quick. I don't have all that. I know it's a piece of crap. This website's horrible. Just knock my bottom. I know it's a piece of crap. This website's horrible.

Speaker 1: 21:18

Just knock my mind it's fine, it's fine.

Speaker 2: 21:21

This show's a wreck. We started late. Who cares? Don't know how to present things properly.

Speaker 1: 21:26

We got good information. We're going to go oh geez, what do you hear? Still looks good. But you know, we've kind of given some of our thoughts on it, so I think we're going to move on right. Girls 120, that's what it is. You know, I'm obviously going to pull Angie, but I'm still calling Mary Prescott for number two.

Speaker 4: 21:43

Yeah. I mean, anything can happen.

Speaker 1: 21:45

Sounds good. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2: 21:50

Yeah, okay, we got out of this one.

Speaker 1: 21:54

Go right to the next one and I'll zoom it in right away and stare people, the eyesore in us, oh, we'll go there.

Speaker 4: 22:01

Oh, maddie and tail will be a fun one to watch, that's for sure.

Speaker 1: 22:06

Let's go ahead and present that. See that folks? So this is one 26. Maddie peach on top oh surprise there. 37. It's hard to look at.

Speaker 4: 22:21

Yeah, she's probably a two-timer already, right? Yeah, sleznikow, or however you say that.

Speaker 1: 22:30

Sleznikow, I think we're saying that right. Yeah, I hope so. Sorry if.

Speaker 4: 22:35

I butcher your names. I'm from the. South, we're pretty close 32 and 0. Man, she was getting beat at the Warrior Classic or whatever it's called now. That used to be the JV state that they did the girls state with.

Speaker 4: 22:51

She was getting beat by who's a 12-0 or something like that. Crazy going to the third. Yeah, she put in legs and turned her like four times. It was crazy. It was so nuts. I was like, oh my gosh, she's up 12-0? How's she going to come back? And then just she's the beast. I'm not trying to give anything away, Erica, but I'm sure people know already.

Speaker 1: 23:15

Make sure you text messages and stuff here quick. But yeah, I think, obviously I think this is pretty, this is pretty close too, before you get this one called too Nice dude. Good job.

Speaker 4: 23:32

At least I'm, you know. I don't know what happened with the boys, because my ranks are not what the boys' seats are. We'll see that, Jeez.

Speaker 1: 23:47

Then we're just going to crap all over your theory.

Speaker 4: 23:49

Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I should probably just stick to the girls.

Speaker 1: 23:54

Yeah, just maybe pick up on the middle school rankings.

Speaker 4: 23:59

Elementary I can do elementary.

Speaker 1: 24:01

Hey, Willie's doing it. There you go. This was me. Some kind of justification, oh man. Okay, so we've got the top half. I'll go with the seeds on this one.

Speaker 4: 24:11

Yeah, I mean, I think the three will probably get into the final, though Delia Collins yeah, she'll probably. I think she'll take out Clavetter in the semis and it'll be a one-two match with Peach and Delia. But I mean, maddie has a pretty tough road for a returning champ, like to have Taya in the quarter and then get Erica in the semi. It's going to be battle-tested, that's for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:47

Yeah, I like the scene. I like the scene in this one. That's good. Alright, so that's 126. Maddie, good luck, and I'm sure we'll be saying congratulations. Oh yeah, Just keep on fighting. Man Excited to see what she does. Yeah. That's for sure, Okay, so that was a good 126. So how long did it take you to do like each graphic?

Speaker 4: 25:10

Well, starting out it was a little bit rough, but it got better by the end. I think I did all the D3 this morning in about five hours.

Speaker 1: 25:17

Oh really yeah, and we will present 132. Girls 132, right there. I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 4: 25:33

Horrible quarter Chesney and Lily in the quarters they've already wrestled the last two weeks and I just can't stand how they put the same section on. I know it's supposed to be seeds, but come on, they shouldn't be wrestling that early.

Speaker 1: 25:53

Yeah, I don't know if I like.

Speaker 4: 26:01

that's a crazy scene yeah well, I mean, you got Lily. Well, you got Lily, who just got pinned two weeks ago by Chesney at regional, and then she came back. Since I don't do rankings after sectionals, let's let them settle, but this is all. And then she came back, since I don't do rankings after sectionals. Let's let them settle it. That's the way I feel. But this is all based off after regional results.

Speaker 2: 26:25

So nothing that happened at sectionals goes into my rankings.

Speaker 4: 26:28

If I redid it, obviously, then I would have Lily back at one Because she pinned her after she got pinned.

Speaker 1: 26:37

So I'm going to write another list here. I like this.

Speaker 4: 26:41

Frankie. Grimm is going to be a tough one for her too, Whatever I know. But I'm just saying. I think of the lower seeds. I think that Stella Petter from Freedom.

Speaker 1: 26:55

I'm talking about Amelia Poplosky. I like how she wrestles, big fan. I was able to see a couple videos of her wrestling. It's nice it's pretty physical as far as girls go. Yes, that's the one thing that I do like, even with guys, with the boys wrestling. I like a physical wrestling match, but interesting. I haven't been able to see a lot of these guys wrestling in the last Maniford area like just, but none of that goes up on anything. Nobody puts anything up. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 27:40

So Girls 132, I'm looking at Lily Banks Most likely. Anyways, you know, and I've known Lily forever, I've seen her, you know, coming through, you know, like aviators, stuff like that, and then doing the things that she does. She's very athletic, right. She's very physical too. Yeah, that's that's kind of the drug of choice when it comes to the girls. Wrestling is good, physical wrestling, and she's definitely does that.

Speaker 4: 28:07

So, yeah, I think I'm gonna go lily and and haley in the final, with lily coming out on top.

Speaker 1: 28:12

Okay, haley flet.

Speaker 4: 28:14

Okay, she didn't mean the other three. There's, there's two or three girls that can beat her. Yeah, but they're all on the other side. Yeah, that can be Haley, anyway. I mean, every savage will be tough on us.

Speaker 1: 28:31

Yeah, that's. The other one I was going to mention was Avery. She's pretty tough. Yeah, gage. The other one I was going to mention was Avery. She's pretty dope Gage. You know that was the fun thing with Gage. That's a little savage, that's crazy, that's pronounced.

Speaker 2: 28:43

Oh yeah, I think we say that every time we talk.

Speaker 1: 28:46

Gage was always a very difficult to take down wrestler.

Speaker 2: 28:54

Very resilient Avery wrestles similar, but again very physical.

Speaker 1: 29:00

So that's cool. Yeah, let's run around with that, but everybody sees these Again. A lot of what we're doing is also trying to show rankings versus seedings and closeness, things like that. It's not just numbers that are made up, right, that kind of thing, but in a bracket closeness, things like that, so it's not just numbers that are made up and all that.

Speaker 4: 29:20

So it's that kind of thing. But bracket, yeah, and obviously I'm not picking my rankings, aren't picking who gets to state, you know. Right correct or else I'd have two from each sectional and then you couldn't get in if you were the third one.

Speaker 1: 29:31

Well, it's a gauge to see how crazy things are too, you know oh yeah, there's some.

Speaker 4: 29:35

I mean there's some that some of the best grills didn't even make it out of regional Right. I mean just some loaded brackets, Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1: 29:44

We had about five left here, six left, I think so grills 138. Let me pull this up further Just trying to, like I said, spare anybody any eye damaging.

Speaker 4: 29:58

Yeah, I mean, this one's pretty easy. You just got to talk about two girls.

Speaker 1: 30:03

Oh, I already see them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, straight, that's better. Yeah, we'll present that. We got Carly Keshker up on top. This is Girls with 38. That's my go-to.

Speaker 4: 30:24

Riley Hanrahan yeah.

Speaker 1: 30:25

Hanrahan.

Speaker 4: 30:28

That'll be a good final, but I think that Carly probably gets it done again. She always does, yeah she usually does, man.

Speaker 1: 30:37

I'm not sure about 100 of the time, but I know she goes down to iowa oh does she and trains. I'm pretty sure she's down there with kylie welker and stuff.

Speaker 4: 30:45

That'd be a pretty, pretty good place to train for women, that's for sure I'm just I.

Speaker 1: 30:50

I'm not even gonna say that I saw her in the room, nothing like that. But just knowing the relationship, yeah, she has those BAM kids, right? I'm pretty sure that's where Carly goes to, right? Is that BAM? I'm not sure. I think it's BAM.

Speaker 4: 31:04

Correct me if I'm wrong Is that like Burlington BAM. I have no clue what BAM is.

Speaker 1: 31:10

No, that's I need to. Does it stand for badass? Yeah, the Bruce Nazarian Memorial Club? They call it BAM for short. Bruce Nazarian, no seriously. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1: 31:30

There was a guy I think it was. If I remember correctly, he was the father of a friend, but he was totally dedicated to things and I didn't know the guy personally, but hearing the stories that he was a pretty cool dude, so I wound up naming it after him. That's cool, but yeah, I think it's not only that runs it. I never remembered the correct way to address him, so I just called coach.

Speaker 2: 32:00

Okay, because it's coach man yeah.

Speaker 1: 32:02

I remember when we were down at we got that trophy. We won that trophy for Wisconsin Iron Okay, I think his son was on the team when we won that. Oh cool, yeah. He was like, hey, I need you guys going down to this. I was like, yeah, what are you? You got someone? He was like, yeah, we can. Yeah, hell yeah. Right. So all right back to the girls. Girls 138. Carly, yeah, like you said, Carly Riley, you know the other ones that I do. Know that I have seen a few matches. Where is?

Speaker 2: 32:35

it.

Speaker 1: 32:35

Oh, kylie Simpson. Yeah, seen a couple of those. That's another one. That's it. A couple highlights here and there, but I don't recognize any of the names from those.

Speaker 4: 32:51

Yeah, it seemed like this wait kind of cleared out once they realized, like once the dust settled and they realized those two were going there.

Speaker 1: 32:58

Yeah. I feel, like a bunch of people kind of moved around like a tad hey happens with the girls.

Speaker 4: 33:04

I mean, oh yeah, it's nothing against the girls, Everybody does it.

Speaker 1: 33:06

Not going to bag on them.

Speaker 4: 33:07

No, not at all.

Speaker 1: 33:08

Got to be competitive as much as you are. Yeah, cool. Well, that's 138 folks. That was pretty simple and honestly, you could say the same thing, obviously, with you know like whiting and things like that, but there's just, there's so much in between, nothing, nothing's going to happen to you know, whiting, but there's so much in between, yeah.

Speaker 4: 33:29

That you get a text, no just T of course correct and our Of course correct in our pronunciation.

Speaker 1: 33:36

Oh, yeah, yeah, sleznik, sleznik-o.

Speaker 4: 33:39

Yeah, sleznik-o. Okay Cool, I'm never going to get that right, thanks, steve.

Speaker 1: 33:44

We'll put that up, see you. Thanks, steve. Thanks for the help.

Speaker 4: 33:46

Yeah. I'm going to need a lot of it.

Speaker 1: 33:49

Well, let me put some sunglasses, because he knows, no worries. Alright, so let's switch out 138. What's the next weight for girls? What is it? 145. I was going to guess 44.

Speaker 2: 33:59

No.

Speaker 1: 34:01

We'll get this size right for y'all. There we go. Okay, so we got.

Speaker 4: 34:08

Harlow in the first second one.

Speaker 1: 34:10

Yeah, 145. Top half Harlow Skinnen and Doerr. Skinnen and Doerr no, I'm just kidding. Half Harlow skinning the door, skinning the door. Now I'm dumb, steve.

Speaker 2: 34:22

I wanted to try to say it first.

Speaker 1: 34:24

That's all I want to try it. You know, eva Armadi, that to me her brother wrestled it yeah.

Speaker 4: 34:39

That's another one. She just beat the three seed there at regional or at sectional.

Speaker 1: 34:43

She seemed pretty tough. A lot of losses, really. She had a lot of losses that's what I'm saying with Nina.

Speaker 4: 34:50

Like they have so many good wrestlers, these girls were wrestling like two and three weight classes up and really.

Speaker 1: 34:56

Yeah, they were all over the place. Yeah, they were all over the place. These girls were wrestling two and three weight classes up. Really, yeah.

Speaker 4: 35:01

Just to make sure they got matches. Yeah, they weren't enough at one weight class or something. Yeah, they were all over the place. Who goes to that girls team? Yeah, they're doing a really good job.

Speaker 1: 35:10

They got the old.

Speaker 4: 35:11

Who was it there now?

Speaker 1: 35:12

Maddie Rickshaw.

Speaker 4: 35:13

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 35:15

Yep Chloe LaRue.

Speaker 4: 35:17

Yeah, she was injured last year and didn't get to wrestle, so I'm surprised that she's where she is, because that is supposed to not be good for your seed, you know. So I don't know, like, I said I don't know how the seeds happen. Sometimes Having two and three in the same quarter is not really ideal.

Speaker 1: 35:36

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 35:38

Then you got Sophia Paulson too. She's had some really good wins this year. Yeah, I don't like that bottom half either. Five, six, 10 and four.

Speaker 2: 35:47

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 35:48

Yeah, that's rough. Layla right, Rizzler right.

Speaker 1: 35:53

Rizzler I don't know. They're Rizzler Now Rizzler, I don't know. Rizzler, now we're being 16, it looks like Rizzler. I mean Rizzler. We're not going to.

Speaker 4: 36:08

I get hung up on things.

Speaker 1: 36:10

I do too, but I have to mentally force myself to stop looking at it. I think, Harlow, Harlow's got that one locked up. Folks, it's hard to argue an undefeated record right and Teague says it is the Rizzler.

Speaker 4: 36:29

Oh, my goodness See.

Speaker 1: 36:31

It is the Rizzler. I know I was right, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 4: 36:34

She's the Rizzler yeah, rizzler Guy should. I know I was right. That's pretty cool. Yeah, that guy should be paying her royalties now Right.

Speaker 1: 36:46

You know I'm going to what's up. What are the losses Andrews has from Turner?

Speaker 4: 36:55

Andrews has losses to Harlow. I'm not sure about that. I don't think so.

Speaker 1: 37:03

Sydney Andrews has Can you beat yourself Like does that defensive pin? Is that a beating yourself?

Speaker 4: 37:10

I don't think so. I mean, they still held you there. She's lost to Chloe LaRue, and that was two to three. She also has beat her, wow. And then she lost to Olivia Hoffrichter.

Speaker 1: 37:32

Hoffrichter Hoffrichter, Getting text messages. Make sure it's important, though I can't see where this is. It's not important. Yeah, it's not important. Well, sometimes information like you're getting information. I just want to make sure I'm not missing something.

Speaker 2: 37:51

Oh yeah, for sure I'm not missing anything at all.

Speaker 4: 37:55

I'm going with the freshman I like, sidney. I'm going with Layla.

Speaker 1: 38:01

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 38:05

The Rizzler 52-1.

Speaker 1: 38:06

I don't know, man. I like the fact that Sidney Andrews is the one that Andy Cloyer only lost.

Speaker 4: 38:14

I like that. Yeah, I know, but I'm going with the freshman loss. Yeah, I like that, yeah, I know.

Speaker 2: 38:20

But I mean, I'm going with the freshman.

Speaker 1: 38:21

Okay, that's fun, that's fun.

Speaker 4: 38:26

The records man. Having 52 and 1 as a freshman is pretty ridiculous too. Like what? Yeah, Like I said with the seed you to use a little bit of common sense, Just because they did well last year and they're coming back from a loss like all their season was gone.

Speaker 1: 38:48

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 38:49

And they're 10-2. They can't be.

Speaker 1: 38:51

Yeah, but you know. The thing is, though, too, is there are kids that maybe didn't look as strong coming through. They made it right. Yeah. And then they go into the state tournament and like kill it. Oh yeah, you know, like if I had Teague's brain, I'm sure I could come up with someone that did something like that. Right, like they only beat this person by one point and then smoked him at the state tournament.

Speaker 4: 39:16

You know, yeah, I mean I'm sure it happens every year.

Speaker 1: 39:20

Well, I like this bracket, but I don't like the seeds that much.

Speaker 4: 39:27

Seeds could definitely be better.

Speaker 1: 39:29

And someone was mentioning that in the forum. We'll close that at 145. We'll go to the next one here. Someone was mentioning that in the forum about even with the boys. Right, someone was mentioning on the forum about even with the boys.

Speaker 2: 39:40

Right.

Speaker 1: 39:41

Also, the seeds are just ridiculous. Oh yeah, there's some really egregious ones Right, glaringly egregious yeah.

Speaker 4: 39:50

Here's our going for the first four-timer ever for girls.

Speaker 1: 39:54

Really.

Speaker 4: 39:55

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 39:56

She's going to do it.

Speaker 4: 39:56

She was your wrestler of the year for the girls last yearaley. Yeah, she was your wrestler of the year for the girls last year.

Speaker 1: 40:00

That is correct. She was, and I'd love to give it to her, but we can't do it twice in a row. Yeah, I know, so that name was up on the wall. Let's see here. So 152 folks, girls 152. H. Girls 152, hayley Krieger on top. That's my pick to make it and take it, and the rest is up for who's fighting for number two? Yeah.

Speaker 4: 40:28

I mean Madeline is cool. I've heard a lot about her.

Speaker 1: 40:32

I haven't seen her wrestle. Yeah, she's pretty decent. Is it physical? Is she physical or is she quick? Yeah, she's pretty decent. Is it physical? Is she physical or is she quick?

Speaker 4: 40:38

Yeah, she's a little bit of both. She's not, you know, she's not the most physical, but she's got a little bit of both. That's true. Okay, that Burnley Vaughn's had a really good year too. That's Wild Rose. Yeah. I think That'll be a really good quarter with Ron Miller. That's a really. And then.

Speaker 1: 40:56

I mean 19-0. What's the deal with that? Why is the light right?

Speaker 4: 41:00

She wrestled mostly with the boys. Oh yeah, she wrestled us in the duel.

Speaker 1: 41:06

Oh yeah. Oh, that's right, no. Okay, okay, that's right. Yeah, dang, yeah, so she's. So that I mean she got wins in the boys right.

Speaker 4: 41:18

Yeah, but that's not included. I only included the girls, just the girls.

Speaker 1: 41:21

Man, do you know how many wins? I have no clue.

Speaker 4: 41:27

That's crazy.

Speaker 1: 41:30

Well, good for her, definitely going to play a role in this, Definitely. Has she ever run in? Well, no, she hasn't. Obviously no Haley Krieger ever Right. So those guys must not get out of town too much.

Speaker 4: 41:44

Yeah, I mean I think she, like I said, I think she just goes with the boys mostly.

Speaker 1: 41:49

Right right. But she's obviously went to a couple ones.

Speaker 4: 41:52

Yeah, yeah yeah, because I think you can only get like seven matches up to this point for the girls.

Speaker 1: 42:01

Going into state.

Speaker 4: 42:02

Yeah, like for the state series. I'm saying like for the state series. It would only have like seven matches in the state series.

Speaker 1: 42:10

Could she technically qualify for the boys state tournament?

Speaker 4: 42:13

I think this is the last year she could. Yeah, the next year it's only girls on girls and boys on boys.

Speaker 1: 42:22

Yeah, I wonder if she would qualify.

Speaker 4: 42:24

Or maybe it is that you can't go back and forth. If you, in Indiana, the number one, ranked at 106, was a girl. Oh really, I don't know if it ended up that way, but I know she was the number one rank at 106 was a girl. Oh really, I don't know if it ended up that way, but nice. I know she was the number one, right well then, yeah, hey, I, obviously we're in high school.

Speaker 1: 42:45

You made fun of guys. Okay, that's impressive. Yeah, I like to keep going and be able to compete like that, like right on high five. Yeah, high five with that. You know, this is pretty well spelled out. As far as top three, I think. Yeah, yeah, ailey Krieger is going to take it Again. These records folks. I don't know why we're not televising more of these matches and like tournaments and duels with these girls yeah holy cow.

Speaker 1: 43:25

All right, I need to like quit my job and like buy some equipment and start streaming girls duels, because this is holy cow, I really want to start watching some girls duelsels now. Yeah, you know what? Obviously they've got a couple up on Rockton. That's all well and good, but it's not enough to get a complete grasp of what's out there. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 43:46

Who's doing what to who. You know that kind of thing Like whew, All right, that was girls' 152. Next one 165. Next one 160. That was a 165. That's a big jump. Yeah, 13 pounds.

Speaker 4: 44:00

The next one's 20, and then it's 50. Dang.

Speaker 1: 44:04

That sounds healthy. It sounds like really good weights to have such disparity. That's going to work well. Yeah, this one. What do you do this? One sucks to work.

Speaker 4: 44:15

well, what do you do? This one sucks. Having Peter and Laney Vaughn on the same side is just ridiculous. All three of their losses are to each other. They're three and three against each other all year. That's the only people they've lost to Huh.

Speaker 1: 44:36

Yeah, that's pretty well spelled out, but it's not.

Speaker 4: 44:40

Look at these records the girl from Horicon. Where's which Number nine right there.

Speaker 1: 44:52

Oh yeah.

Speaker 4: 44:55

I think she was a two-time state champ and then she didn't even place last year.

Speaker 2: 44:58

What.

Speaker 1: 44:59

I believe that Was it a weight change for her? No, no, no.

Speaker 4: 45:07

It was a crazy season. I can't remember who she lost to, but it was pretty crazy to have a two-time state champ not even place.

Speaker 1: 45:18

Is that Rupert? Rupert, I'll go with Rupert. That sounds proper, yeah. Take me correctly, lauren Rupert, that sounds weird. I mean not completely, but that sounds weird. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 45:38

I mean not totally like completely, but yeah, I mean Soltis has a win over Rainwald too this year. Yeah, and Alicia Bird's really tough. It'll be a really. It just sucks about the top two being on the same side.

Speaker 1: 45:55

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 45:56

And again it's just the freshmen. They don't get enough credit for stuff they've done before. It's what have you done last year? They weren't here to prove what they've done. It's like let's get the short end of the stick here.

Speaker 1: 46:07

I don't know enough about all these guys. I have to wait for this here. Sorry folks. Serial number one. Number one yeah, folks. Sierra Ring Worlds.

Speaker 4: 46:19

Number one. Yeah, I'm going. Vaughn and Berg making the finals, oh yeah, with Saltus and Hooter going for third and fourth. Hooter, and this year there's the new brackets, I don't know if you. Well, I don't think we covered this, but you can't. Once you make the semis, the worst you can get is fourth. There's no more semi-slides to sixth. Okay, I don't make things interesting, no.

Speaker 1: 46:49

I like that. Well, that is 165. Sorry folks, Like I said, I don't know a lot about this weight class. I know just a. Like I said, I don't know a lot about this weight class, I know just a couple names but I haven't been able to see a lot of these guys wrestle. But definitely, I mean, with these records, I'm definitely watching more weight go, so that is my mistake. Next weight Two left. One left after this 185.

Speaker 4: 47:19

Oh yeah, this one cleared out. I was doing my last ranking and I had I don't know if they were hurt or what, but I had probably five of the top ten. Didn't even wrestle in regional. Really, and I was like what in the world is going on? I couldn't believe it. They just all give up saying Brooke's going to win. That's just a lot of things to go wrong. In one way, something was weird.

Speaker 1: 47:54

Oh that's not a lot of matches. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 48:00

That's rough.

Speaker 4: 48:04

Horrible's place.

Speaker 1: 48:05

Yeah, that's the other one. Like Casco's got a fairly decent team too, yeah.

Speaker 4: 48:20

I can't even help you with that the receipt, so I know Tool yeah, yeah Bakuda, oh yeah Bakuda she's pretty tough. Like her and Gorgo might be a good match, but yeah for sure nobody's gonna get that no, that's not what I really like.

Speaker 4: 48:45

I'm just trying to see who else I think a realistic goal for somebody would be to make it to the second period. Yep, cause she's just that good, it's crazy and it's not a girl or a boy thing I don't think I've ever seen a girl that dominant or a wrestler that dominant in person. Yeah well, just their age group and stuff. I just haven't seen it like that. That's crazy.

Speaker 1: 49:10

Yeah, she's good. That's another one that I've seen forever I've watched her, since she was tiny Right yeah, she's small. That's pretty impressive what she's been doing. Yeah, just a fight to get to the finals and make it in the finals a little bit early. Yeah, again, you're not that far off, right Right, there's a couple wonky ones other than that, you're right there, cool. Well, that is 185 folks to minimize this last one. Yeah, I do a lot of jumping.

Speaker 4: 49:49

I really wish I could have done a little more homework on this. Yeah, I probably could have sent you a little bit smarter yeah, but still I could have done some homework.

Speaker 1: 49:57

this is I too. Yeah, but still I could have done some homework. I'm not happy with myself, but I can't get excited, so there we go.

Speaker 4: 50:03

You could have, I just don't think people would watch.

Speaker 1: 50:05

Yeah, right, there we go. So Girls 235's last girl bracket, we jump into day three for boys. Yeah, I know, isn't Eau Claire North? Aren't they pretty competitive in the bigger weights? I'm not saying the entire team is, the rest of the team is bad. I've known them to have some pretty decent bigger weights as far as girls team.

Speaker 4: 50:32

They've got Maddie Sorensen at 85. Yeah, yep, they've had some pretty Sorensen at 85.

Speaker 1: 50:35

Yeah, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 4: 50:38

Yeah, they've had some pretty decent heavyweights Not heavyweights, sorry, Bigger girls. Yeah, heavier weights. I don't know. My wife got on me one time and I used that for a woman.

Speaker 1: 50:49

Oh, what are we supposed to say?

Speaker 4: 50:50

235,.

Speaker 1: 50:52

I guess there's a number, but we're trying to say about the whole. You know there's a bunch of them. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 51:02

I don't want to be exact and be like 165 through 234. Oh yeah, I know, I know what you're saying?

Speaker 1: 51:07

You're not saying that, yeah, nothing but respect. Right, there's nothing but respect for this, especially for the girls. Yes, these records are impressive, but you know it's hard to go against undefeated.

Speaker 4: 51:20

Yeah, she's a two-time returning champion too as well oh well.

Speaker 1: 51:24

All right, we'll scratch that one up. Yeah, who's the closest to your mind to making?

Speaker 4: 51:30

it to the finals, davis.

Speaker 1: 51:32

Davis hands down.

Speaker 4: 51:33

Yeah, yeah, dang it. Yeah, that one's pretty cut and dry. I don't see anybody really Deering. Has had some decent results, but Revy's yeah, Revy's had these records.

Speaker 1: 51:52

It's hard for me to even pick a bracket buster Because, again, it's so cut and dried up on the top. A lot of weights. Yeah, the same goes for a few weights of the boys.

Speaker 4: 52:07

There's a couple that are like Huh, revy's got a runner-up in the third.

Speaker 1: 52:13

Who is her loss to this year?

Speaker 4: 52:15

It's to Madison Burns, is it? Yeah so there Is it, yeah, so there you go. Yeah, all roads lead through Burns, burns.

Speaker 1: 52:26

Well, congrats girls.

Speaker 4: 52:27

Yes.

Speaker 1: 52:28

It'll be fun watching you guys Again. Hopefully, if we're not there, I plan on pulling this up on an FHS. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 52:35

Because these brackets all look good. That's not even me pandering, that's literally looking at some of these records like, wow, that's impressive. I'm excited to see how that all turns out with the girls we will. I'm not even presenting today. I'm presenting. I closed it out Well here. We'll take a look at it later on. I'm presenting. I closed it out Well here. We'll take a look at it later. I thought I had him out there. I thought you did too. Someone's probably telling me right now.

Speaker 4: 53:22

Yeah, yeah, I think we're yeah, because we said, they said it.

Speaker 1: 53:24

Well, we talked about it. I want to make sure people saw it. I was trying to, yeah, go back and and give them a look, because I thought I had it up and then took it down. So, yeah, we're done with. Done with the girls, guys. Done with the girls. That let's go over to the boys. We're done with the girls, guys. Done with the girls, let's go over to the boys. D3. Different color.

Speaker 4: 53:50

They're all different colors.

Speaker 1: 53:52

Maybe do the boys in pink. Yeah, maybe I could have done it Whatever, whatever. So we got D3 folks 106. See the top half, bottom half, as Zach described, you can tell what the seedings are. Yeah, pretty weird.

Speaker 4: 54:16

What I mean? Wow, yeah, Okay, yeah. I mean at least they're still spread out. I mean these buys. Yeah, I mean, at least they're still spread out. You got the four by himself, and then you got the five and the one together, and then you got the two and the three separated, so it'll all play out. Oh, I guess the three and the one together, and then you got the two and the three separated, so it'll all play out? Oh, I guess the three and the one are together.

Speaker 4: 54:39

Yeah, that stinks for Miller how weird. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 54:49

Well, I mean again, the severity of off isn't really.

Speaker 4: 54:55

Right, it would have been different, like the 14 was the one off. Yeah, isn't really that's not that bad Right. It would have been different, like the 14 was the one seed yeah. Like 106, where the two seed is.

Speaker 1: 55:06

Yeah, yeah, that's ridiculous Under one. Yeah, that's what.

Speaker 4: 55:15

I picked on it Under one. Yeah, yeah, I mean he's, I think he Underwood. Yeah, I think he has three losses to Roy.

Speaker 1: 55:21

Was he? Yeah, I'm still picking him.

Speaker 4: 55:24

Oh yeah, I'm going to have to go with Lenovo. He just beat Roy, he lost to Miller two weeks ago, but I think he avenged that loss, that section as well. Really, yeah. So Lenovo's just coming down. He's going to be a big 106.

Speaker 1: 55:38

Congratulations Lenovo, but I'm still picking up. Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2: 55:44

So that's my pick up.

Speaker 1: 55:53

I can see this seating playing out the way that it is, though. Yeah, I could see it Just because of the craziness of what's happened. Right.

Speaker 4: 56:02

You know yeah.

Speaker 1: 56:04

I mean.

Speaker 4: 56:04

Memphis is pretty tough, he beat.

Speaker 1: 56:08

I know Xander is pretty tough too.

Speaker 4: 56:11

Yeah, he is for sure. But, like I said, he beat Lenovo at regional, then lost to them at sectional.

Speaker 1: 56:19

Miller did.

Speaker 4: 56:19

Yeah, but that was a tough sectional. It was him, roy and Miller on the same one.

Speaker 1: 56:25

And these guys top four, get through right In D3? Yeah, well, what do you mean? Top four get through Austin's top two, top three Three, that's right. Top four, then it was's right, top three, not four, three yeah. Then it was different, but I couldn't remember how many. Yeah, cool, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. I might flip that over to Miller.

Speaker 4: 56:51

Yeah, that'd be nice. He's got three losses.

Speaker 1: 56:56

Nope, I'm still with Underwood.

Speaker 4: 56:57

Yeah, he has three losses to Roy, so sorry, good luck, but let's stick with it.

Speaker 1: 57:07

Will that over? Anytime? I see Will over over Brockling. Oh yeah, isn't that he's another? I think he's out of Iowa. Will over Brockling I always see that name like national tournaments, but I see that I was think he's out of Iowa. Will over Brockland I always see that name in national tournaments, but I see that I was like Will over Brockland.

Speaker 4: 57:22

He's a Southeast Volk kid.

Speaker 1: 57:23

Yes, yeah, yes, correct. That's why I know him. Yeah, yeah, no, I read it.

Speaker 2: 57:32

Nope, still going with that.

Speaker 1: 57:34

Nope, that's my pick. All right, so that's 106 D3. We're going to move on to this one. We are going to go to 113 in D3. As soon as I open it up, boom. I shouldn't have raised my number.

Speaker 4: 57:52

Teague told you you'll be there because girls wrestle with D1, so you'll see it.

Speaker 2: 57:57

Fantastic.

Speaker 1: 58:01

Oh, yeah, there, there is right there. Well, that's, I mean, yeah, I guess. Okay 113. Thank you, you, t. I've got to get my mouse over here and get that coming up. Okay, 113. We have Top. Lake. That's my pick. Oh yeah, you know, Parker. So if I'm looking at this right now, I'm not dumb.

Speaker 4: 58:33

He'd be the 3C.

Speaker 1: 58:35

Right, and that's what.

Speaker 4: 58:37

I'd like to see.

Speaker 1: 58:38

That would be a final right. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4: 58:42

If he can get past Lasecki. Is that how you say that? Yes From Amira or the Kadot kid.

Speaker 1: 58:52

Lodol.

Speaker 4: 58:54

Yeah, he just dropped down from 120. So that one was a tough one and that's another thing I didn't really have time to look into either.

Speaker 1: 59:02

It was like who dropped down from what? Yeah. But I do know some of these kids that are yeah, I mean Carson Weiler. He's tough, you know what? He is pretty damn tough. Yeah, I can't believe. Like I'd like to see what those 11 losses were, oh yeah. I mean I know his brother. Yeah, Pretty well. I mean he's got a decent partner to rep for Elma. Yeah, Especially when it comes to Greco style.

Speaker 4: 59:26

Well, he lost to Taft Really Four to nine at Okay, okay. Yeah, he's in state. He lost to Felchion Blake Underwood 1-12,. Blake Underwood 1-20,. Blake Underwood fall. Blake Underwood fall. A lot of Blake Underwood. Four of his 11 losses are Blake.

Speaker 1: 59:45

Underwood and they were all pins.

Speaker 4: 59:47

No 1-12, 1-20, and then two falls oh. It got worse over time. So the first one was 1-12, then it was 1-20.

Speaker 1: 59:56

Maybe after a while.

Speaker 4: 59:59

I'll just save my stuff. I hurt myself here. That's a tough first round too, with him.

Speaker 1: 1:00:05

That's not how their dad teaches, no, just saying that would be funny. It's like you know what? Yeah, I'm going to break an arm today, that's the other thing with these small guys. And of the day, that's the other thing with these small guys. I say this over and over Some of these guys are so freaking flexible Just watching an arm bar, sometimes not even just an arm bar, but a power half.

Speaker 1: 1:00:27

Whoa. Honestly, I think we need to slow down the power halves a little bit. Here's my thing. I'm not going to talk about it too long, I'm going to hit on it real quick. I'm getting tired of double boots. Number one kids in high school know how to leg ride in the first place. Don't coach it unless they know how to do it. Don't let them do it unless they know how to do it right. Double boots half the kids that use it. They don't know how to do. The power trying to do. We need to start calling stalling on them.

Speaker 1: 1:00:57

Give them 10 seconds to produce something and then start warning them for stalling after that.

Speaker 4: 1:01:02

Or at least to stalemate the first one. Sure, if somebody had to start over, but it's not productive.

Speaker 1: 1:01:07

It's a time killer, and they know what it is. It's not just like oh, I didn't know. They know what they're doing. They know that they want to grind the piss out of a guy for the next 30 seconds, which all well and good, but do it the right way, Not just you sticking two feet in.

Speaker 1: 1:01:25

That's enough of that. We'll touch on that in another show. That is starting to get irritating. I got Blake Underwood here, no matter what. I'd like to see Parker bring it to him. I would like to see Carson Weiler, though, get in the mix a little more, so good luck to him. I'd like to see him kill it, jordan as well. A lot of these guys have been scrapping since they were little. I don't want to say scrapping too much, it's kind of a little overplayed, just like my ears here.

Speaker 1: 1:02:01

It's like so that's D3 113. Impressive bracket. You know again your ranking's not all that far off here, so high five Good job.

Speaker 4: 1:02:15

Thank you, that was the kids that did it you.

Speaker 1: 1:02:20

You made it make sense, right? Don't do that. The kids did it. We know they did it.

Speaker 4: 1:02:26

We're just talking about what you do, I know. I just like to piss you off every once in a while.

Speaker 1: 1:02:33

Take a cup alright, so we got D3-120. Oh man, oh man.

Speaker 4: 1:02:41

Gruenfelder.

Speaker 2: 1:02:44

Or Gruenensfelder.

Speaker 4: 1:02:46

I had it wrong on my website for like a whole year. He finally had to tell me that his name fell wrong. He's like add another E-N.

Speaker 1: 1:02:54

He had had enough.

Speaker 4: 1:02:55

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:02:56

After so long. He's like, just so you know he had had enough, yeah, after so long he's like, just so you know that's a lot of patience, you could have just copied and pasted my name one time, I would have been right. You could have gone to track Right Just a once time you were.

Speaker 4: 1:03:09

You know a thousand times you're in there I was like all you had to do was fall off the rank. That would have fixed it then, but you never did. That's a good idea. It's his fault right, yeah. Too much effort Right 56 wins this year and no losses. What?

Speaker 1: 1:03:27

the hell. So that's my magazine?

Speaker 4: 1:03:28

Oh yeah, I mean at the beginning of the year you hear all this stuff about Sheard and everything. I mean he took two losses at sectional, so I mean A notable another one that I know is Liam Carey. Yeah, that's the one that beat him. He beat him nine to eight at sectionals.

Speaker 1: 1:03:44

So that's his brother's always been tough.

Speaker 4: 1:03:46

Yeah, stinks that he's been that he's been just as tough Quarter with Grunfeld.

Speaker 1: 1:03:50

Yeah, I know, but still, you know I give. Has he lost a group filter?

Speaker 4: 1:03:55

I'm sure he has. I'll have to make sure. I would have to assume he has.

Speaker 1: 1:04:00

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not going to sleep on Martez. No, no, that's it was 9-8 with.

Speaker 4: 1:04:06

Kerry, last time With Martez.

Speaker 1: 1:04:10

He's definitely battle-tested, yeah, but Caleb Kraus, that's another kid. I'd like to see make it pretty decently far. I'd like to see him at least try and get to the semis. That'd be pretty cool.

Speaker 4: 1:04:28

No, he's not wrestled. Well, he obviously lost to him at sectional yeah right but they're on the same sectional, so I don't know how that went.

Speaker 1: 1:04:36

No, I'll talk it up, though Caleb is one I'd like to see make it pretty far here Martaz. That was a tackle 21-6, that section. Oh was it.

Speaker 4: 1:04:50

Okay yeah, I think Aiden's just a little bit too good for everybody in this bracket right now.

Speaker 1: 1:04:55

Yeah, cornwire, that's a name I've been hearing for quite a while.

Speaker 4: 1:05:03

There's two of them too, and there's Collins. That's 26, but they're both really really good yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:05:09

I like like Grunfelder and you know, I don't know does. Why do you think Martez makes it to the finals?

Speaker 4: 1:05:21

I don't know, like Grunfelder and you know, does Martin you think Martez makes it to the finals? I don't know him and Brayden Johnson will be a be a good match. Brayden's just coming down from 26 as well, so it's hard to. Oh, really, yeah, so, oh, oh, okay yeah, so him him and. Martez and Sinan will be a pretty good one.

Speaker 1: 1:05:43

And then Sure wish we had our Kugelhut guys in here, yeah. Yeah, it was a rough second round man. Yeah, but what do you do? What do you do next year? Yeah, this is again Grunfelder. Hopefully we see Scher make it. There's going to be a couple good matches in here. I think the rest of it plays out kind of the way that these seeds are, though. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:06:11

Yeah, it just thinks that Kerry can't make it to the semi at least yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:06:16

You know it's a tough draw, but anyway, yeah, again to me he's my sleeper. I hope he comes out and makes some noise, because watching him wrestle too since he was little has been. He's just gotten better. We'll see if the progress shows this weekend. It's good to see those guys all making it to state, though, too Just the kids that you know that have put that time and work in, and shit like that. It's good to see those guys all making it to state, though, too Just the kids that you know that have put that time and the work in, and shit like that. So it's good. It's good for these guys.

Speaker 1: 1:06:45

D3, 120. We're going to close that one out and 126-er.

Speaker 4: 1:06:58

Our second four-timer, our hopeful four-timer, at leastji um, everybody don't think that.

Speaker 1: 1:07:03

I think that our kakada guys are in d3. I was just thinking about the weight okay, why did somebody say something? No, no, no you're gonna turn into d3, yeah, no, it just can't.

Speaker 4: 1:07:16

you hit my brain oh okay, better say something before something. Say something, I'm sad A little sad, okay.

Speaker 1: 1:07:24

so yeah, coach is getting this core title yeah, come on. Not even going to question that. Right. As much as people would want me to, I'm not going to because it makes absolutely no sense. Right. I like Jake Buss as a sleeper. Those guys are pretty good. You like them.

Speaker 2: 1:07:43

As much as I want to yeah, yeah. Why are we a free?

Speaker 1: 1:07:46

one. As much as we want to say that they don't, they do yeah. They do have some really good kids. He's my sleeper. Right, I have faith, right, coach, I've got to get Coach. Yes, that's a lock. I have faith, right, coach. Again, coach is winning it. Yes, that's a lock.

Speaker 4: 1:08:01

So let's go all the way down here. Yeah, this oil off is pretty good. That would be a good final at least.

Speaker 1: 1:08:12

Yeah, that's definitely a final for sure.

Speaker 4: 1:08:14

Yeah, you're not that far off, I know, but I think it's them the season you get better yeah. It's, could I think it's them, they that the season you get better.

Speaker 1: 1:08:25

Yeah, it's not me, that's them right. Yeah, well, and a lot of people have mentioned about it too, you know. And then the fact of you know just where certain teams go to and then a lot of actually other decent guys don't make it through. Yeah, like's kind of crazy. You can talk.

Speaker 4: 1:08:45

I'm not very good at carrying a conversation. I have to be lit. I'm a little thirsty.

Speaker 1: 1:08:53

A lot of talking.

Speaker 4: 1:08:54

Right, the Tyler Paulson freshman could give Orloff. I wonder if they've wrestled.

Speaker 1: 1:09:01

How dare I overlook Aquinas? How dare I?

Speaker 4: 1:09:07

He's only lost to an Illinois kid, and Briggs Weigel was his two losses for Orloff.

Speaker 1: 1:09:15

So we could see Melzna, orloff and Semis.

Speaker 4: 1:09:20

You could yeah. Melzna got ticked by him already 20-3. What.

Speaker 1: 1:09:27

Come on, parker, but Paulson would be good too. Yeah, paulson, and the Quarters.

Speaker 4: 1:09:35

Paulson and the Quarters with Orlov is a good one. Yeah, paulson and the Quarters were all off it was a good one, and then so was Grosso, and I cannot say that last name. Which one Cornelier? Oh yeah, cornelier Cornelier.

Speaker 1: 1:09:54

The one that gets me is the Pecatonica Argyle School. Yeah, is that a private school? Pecatonica Argyle School? Yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:10:01

Is that a private school?

Speaker 1: 1:10:02

Pecatonica Argyle.

Speaker 4: 1:10:04

It's two schools, right yeah?

Speaker 1: 1:10:06

so it's towns. I didn't realize there was a town in Pecatonica. No, I know there's Argyle, but I never really paid attention to Pecatonica, so my apologies, lucas, don't hate me. Oh, we to share this.

Speaker 4: 1:10:21

I didn't say the brackets aren't on the screen no, they're.

Speaker 1: 1:10:25

Look at that. D3126. Sorry folks, see, that's why I did that the last time. Again. Brackets dude, I'm so flustered right now it's off the charts. I was not able to prep for this. I didn't like that at all. Nice.

Speaker 4: 1:10:43

Like we said, koji, the rest is sorry. Mason DeWayne is good.

Speaker 1: 1:10:51

Yeah, just this one kind of speaks for itself. I think the seeds on here are decent.

Speaker 4: 1:10:59

They've got it right. At least they're spread out. You screwed up, though that was a big screw up Always.

Speaker 1: 1:11:09

So how many emails do you get? Not just because people feed you information. Yeah. How many emails do you get that are just like why would you put so-and-so here, Do you?

Speaker 4: 1:11:18

get a lot of that. No, it's kind of. It's mostly that I missed a uh like a significant win and stuff okay.

Speaker 1: 1:11:26

Okay, then to me that's info.

Speaker 4: 1:11:28

Yeah, I mean well, I mean, I don't if they're not, if they're not ranked when when they beat them, I don't go back and add it, because that would take way too much time, you know yeah, I don't reassess everybody's significant wins every week. So if you weren't ranked when you beat them and then you beat them and then they become ranked, yep, I'm not gonna go back and add that so because it's just not gonna. That's not gonna be very good with my time like right right and then so that's what I get the most of you.

Speaker 4: 1:11:54

you didn't get this significant win and I'm like, well, it wasn't so significant win when I had that. Sorry, I'm not going to add it Because if I add it for you, I've got to do it for everybody. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:12:04

So those are our picks. We think everything kind of lines up the way it is. But we'll see. Again, I don't want to make a full-on like well, this guy's definitely taking second, third, but we're going to pick our favorites and guys we know. Records are all right there anyways for everybody to see. Because, again I am, I don't retain stuff like that. Right. I just don't. And someone might say well, brad, what do you retain? Not a lot. There's not a lot that I regard as important enough to hold in my brain.

Speaker 4: 1:12:45

Right. Well, luckily they're on the screen.

Speaker 1: 1:12:47

And luckily people do it for me. Right, right, I can just pull stuff up. Yeah, pull up information, jack Nicklaus. Oh, it's Jace.

Speaker 4: 1:12:56

Yeah, the only reason he's in there is because the guy who should be the one to eat isn't, and Bobby Huntley got hurt, so no. Yeah, I think he hurt his elbows while he was here. Is this his junior year?

Speaker 1: 1:13:07

No, it's his senior year. Yeah, oh, I feel bad for that one.

Speaker 4: 1:13:13

Yeah, he probably would have won it this year too.

Speaker 1: 1:13:15

I feel bad for that one.

Speaker 4: 1:13:17

Yeah, it stinks.

Speaker 1: 1:13:19

Oh man, that sucks yeah. Was he planning on going anywhere?

Speaker 4: 1:13:25

Not that I know of, Not that I know of anyway.

Speaker 1: 1:13:29

Yeah, that's another thing, folks, you can go on here. We go on to the Wisconsin Grappler. You can see where they committed to. You can see where they're ranked nationally statewide. Significant wins are on there, significant losses are on there.

Speaker 4: 1:13:46

Yeah, I should just call it losses, because every loss is significant really, yeah. It doesn't really, because I put all the losses on there.

Speaker 1: 1:13:53

But some losses are expected though, right. Yeah, as much as you don't want to say that about someone, right Again, it's just part of the, though, right?

Speaker 2: 1:14:00

And as much as you don't want to say that about someone again.

Speaker 1: 1:14:02

It's just part of the game, right Like we know that was going to happen yeah. Or we're like holy crap, you lost to who. Yeah, you know that kind of thing. That's what that is. It's a significant loss, Right.

Speaker 4: 1:14:12

But, yeah, so yeah, unfortunately Bobby's not there, but Flea, he's good.

Speaker 1: 1:14:19

Flea's better on the block. I think he's going to take it. Yeah, I mean Sanchez is good.

Speaker 4: 1:14:24

I mean, this is one through, four is what I had it, you know. And then five.

Speaker 1: 1:14:32

So Sanchez had a loss that I saw. That kind of surprised me what was the most recent one?

Speaker 4: 1:14:35

Was it One section, I believe? Yeah, I know, but I thought he had a loss at. He was up a weight for most of the year too.

Speaker 1: 1:14:44

Was he.

Speaker 4: 1:14:45

Yeah, he got down to 32, I think, at the Freedom Invite.

Speaker 1: 1:14:49

It was still kind of a surprise. I know the Sanchez kids pretty well. Yeah. It's not to throw any shade on them as far as the Fleegie thing, but let's see His losses.

Speaker 4: 1:15:01

He lost to the Remington Skip guy, that Jack lost to second round, lost to Connor Steffens, he lost to Josiah Beltran, he lost to Bodding, he lost to Christopher, he lost to Bodding again. He lost to Weston Ingham and he lost to Tallenberg. So those are all pretty decent.

Speaker 1: 1:15:20

Yeah, those are pretty decent. I thought there was one that was just a little surprising Either way he's a good wrestler.

Speaker 4: 1:15:27

He's 8-7 with Aiden Ari, ultimate tiebreaker.

Speaker 1: 1:15:30

Really.

Speaker 4: 1:15:31

Yeah, so that's a good one yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:15:34

Those kids scrap. Oh yeah, that's for sure Okay. Those kids scrap. Oh yeah, that's for sure Okay.

Speaker 4: 1:15:43

I think Kale Quintins, how do you say it? Where Quintins from Marathon? Oh yeah. I think he could make a final. You think so? Yeah, you think he could beat Sanchez. I don't know. Like I said, I don't know, I said I mean he's got to beat Rigoberto Tolez. Thank you all. Yeah, like you pointed out, though, these were pretty good as far as seeds go. They got all four of the top ones In different quarters, and they got the five and the six where they should be.

Speaker 1: 1:16:24

I'm going to keep Sanchez in the final. Yeah, yeah, I'll call him third.

Speaker 4: 1:16:31

Yeah, yeah that would be a good match though.

Speaker 1: 1:16:35

Oh, for sure, for sure. Oh, gil Quintin's Marathon, good record. I know he's a pretty solid wrestler. Every time I see Jason Nicholas, I want to say Jack, but that's unfortunate. About Huntley, yeah, that's unfortunate, but that's 132, folks Just random picks. Here Again, I really like Sanchez.

Speaker 2: 1:17:00

And I actually like to see if.

Speaker 1: 1:17:02

Sanchez can take it to Flaygate, but Aquinas is tough man, aquinas is tough, so we'll close this one out 138. Going on 138 in D3. Zoom, zoom, d3. Okay, all right 138. D3. Wide-ons are not going against that one. Yeah. And I know, I know like Teague and Steve tried not to do like well, let's see what you got, and I think he kind of explained that too. On a couple.

Speaker 1: 1:17:47

These guys are just that good. They're going to have a couple tough matches that maybe a guy's going to score a takedown on them. They're going to struggle with their offense a little bit, but once they figure it out it's like they dial in and just take it to town offense a little bit, but once they figure it out, it's like they dial in and just take it to town. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:18:04

Yeah, those are the guys.

Speaker 4: 1:18:05

You either see them lose early or not at all.

Speaker 2: 1:18:08

Right.

Speaker 4: 1:18:08

If they lose Thursday night, okay, yeah, probably. But usually once they get you know on the mat and start Mm-hmm, I like these seeds yeah on the mat and start.

Speaker 1: 1:18:18

I like these seeds. Yeah, Whatever rankings and the rankings are close to right now but I like the seeds themselves.

Speaker 2: 1:18:27

Yeah, for sure this fits.

Speaker 4: 1:18:30

I believe that. Carter. Bertie Shaw and Sam Springer had a good match already. Maybe not Could be wrong. Maybe not I could be wrong. Maybe they didn't wrestle Well they probably will. Oh, he bumped up and wrestled Rowan.

Speaker 1: 1:18:51

Oh, did he Okay.

Speaker 4: 1:18:54

I was thinking they had a close match, but they didn't.

Speaker 1: 1:18:56

Yeah, I like these seeds. I like how this plays out.

Speaker 4: 1:18:58

I think, even though Hanky match, but they didn't. Yeah, I like these seeds, I like how this plays out. Yeah, I mean, I think, even though Hankey from LeMire has already beat the freshman from Partyville, Osani Yep. That'll be a good one in the quarter.

Speaker 1: 1:19:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah, there'll definitely be the way that these seeds are. The matches will be pretty decent. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:19:18

So this one. Obviously, when I saw the complaints, I did see some complaints on Teague's. Teague says we actually allow some picks for state. True, bragging rights are out of the line then True, yeah, I agree. I wholeheartedly agree. I don't know I got this ADHD there for a second, but I like how these seeds are in the competition. Like I said, it's going to be just as good. The complaints that I saw online I didn't see who exactly they were talking about and I don't think I think they're just complaining about how nothing it doesn't work or they need to change it. They they didn't give specific instances, right? If it's someone down the line, who'll give their instances, never the person who actually said they complained about it, right?

Speaker 4: 1:20:10

I think what he's talking about, is it? Yeah?

Speaker 1: 1:20:12

right, right, but I think this no. I want to hear what that dude said. Right, yeah. To me. So here's my thing. A lot of talk and thought goes into this right and I wholeheartedly appreciate it. The thing with me is that when I when I think about it as an athlete or just think about it as putting my kid into something, yeah I'm in the frame. I might have just make up your mind. Figure out what you're going to do and tell me what the rules are right right, there are guys who have the well, this could be more competitive this way.

Speaker 1: 1:20:44

But how has it been done before? Can you prove that right? I'm not saying this is good like, however seating goes is how it goes right now. Right, yeah, and I, this one looks good. Right, there's probably a couple more down the line, look good. But I don. I instantly just go in the frame of mind of like, well, someone wants to change and I'm like, well, I guess what's the problem now? How is it causing an issue.

Speaker 4: 1:21:07

You have a problem with what's going on, right. Maybe, the person that would change because of what you want to be changed would have a problem after they change. Yeah, and I might recognize and I might recognize.

Speaker 1: 1:21:17

okay, even when they tell me okay, I agree with you there, I can get what you're saying, kind of thing. But at the same point, though, too, I also come up with like what are you going to do? This is what we have. Are you going to create a new rule and pass it on and like try to get something created, or are you just going to talk about it online?

Speaker 4: 1:21:36

No, we're just going to play.

Speaker 1: 1:21:37

And I'm the same. There's things that I complain about. I'm not saying that these guys are evil or anything like that, but it's just like honey. What are you going to do? Tell me what I'm doing. Yeah, tell me what the rules are. Tell me how much I pay at the door. Yeah. So I can do this right.

Speaker 4: 1:21:51

So we know, with D3-138, we're going to pick that Part Eagle freshman in the next final though.

Speaker 1: 1:21:58

You think?

Speaker 4: 1:21:58

so yeah, he lost to Hankey 16-5 the first time at regional and then he lost to Hankey 15-12 in tiebreaker. Oh, okay, and then he'd have to beat Mies too, but it's very doable.

Speaker 1: 1:22:15

Okay, I got a lock already on this one 144. Road one yeah, 144.

Speaker 4: 1:22:24

Road carry yeah, he's got to get it done, man. If he makes it to the finals and somehow loses and is a four-time runner-up, I might just shed a tear, or something that would be crazy.

Speaker 1: 1:22:34

Has he wrestled Kluge yet?

Speaker 4: 1:22:37

Ever? I don't think so.

Speaker 1: 1:22:38

Let me look Because that's I mean honestly, if that's a match, that's the only one he's got. Yeah. Roland carries all his losses out of state.

Speaker 4: 1:22:51

I mean, he was at the Chiefs head. So let me look. Let's try he lost to Justice Jezaroga. He lost to Davis Paro. He lost to Justice Jezaroga. And he lost to Davis Paro. He lost to Justice Zeroga.

Speaker 1: 1:23:02

And he lost to Hawkins Hawkins sorry, so those are decent losses.

Speaker 4: 1:23:05

Yeah, but it was only three to six with Hawkins.

Speaker 1: 1:23:08

Really, yeah, he's winning. Yeah, I mean, you can keep it that tight with Hawkins. Yeah, you're doing all right.

Speaker 4: 1:23:16

Especially with how the scoring is. Now I just want to six is really close. Whose Klug's losses are? Klug has lost to.

Speaker 1: 1:23:30

I wish I knew all this off the top of my head. King Gerber, just look it up he lost to.

Speaker 4: 1:23:33

Landon Shepard. Five to six Lost to Goose from Illinois. Yeah, lost to Bozell, and they lost to Hudson, sylvester Opel 4-5 Rowan will be in the championships with. I haven't seen Gerber wrestle yeah, I think you got to go with Gerber. Yeah, I just haven't seen Gerber wrestle, yeah, I think you got to go with Gerber, yeah, yeah. He's been up at 50 all year. He just came down for. He's going to be pretty tough, but I don't think he's tough enough to take out.

Speaker 1: 1:24:14

Rowan no, no, no, rowan's winning. It's just trying to put everybody together, you know? No, no, no, no no, no, rowan's winning.

Speaker 4: 1:24:20

Yeah, it's just trying to put everybody together. Well, you know that Partyville kid is tough too, though that's what.

Speaker 1: 1:24:25

I was going to say I know I heard Teague and those guys talking a lot about Glock. Yeah, partyville's always got a couple guys here and there that just wind up, just killing it. Yeah, I mean, I already picked a Partyville guy last time, so I'm going with Gerber.

Speaker 4: 1:24:42

Oh, are you? Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1: 1:24:44

No rhyme or reason.

Speaker 4: 1:24:45

Just don't want to pick two.

Speaker 1: 1:24:46

Partyville guys. Just switch it up, bill, that's cool. Yeah, you know, honestly, I'd probably go with Partyville here. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:24:55

So White Rose, why not? Right? So that's our pick there, that's our discussion and topic of 144 again, guys, if you got questions, let us know. If there's something you see you're like, why is that like that? We want to hear it. Why do I? Because Zach doesn't hear enough of it. We want to hear it. Hope you guys didn't find my files. My dirty pictures are there. It's all just graphics and just so much Adobe stuff in there. It's unreal. I can't believe my computer hasn't exploded yet. Yeah, 150. Alright, man, d3-150. I'm going with Colton all the way, baby.

Speaker 4: 1:25:46

Getting his first title.

Speaker 1: 1:25:47

I'm going to tell you guys a little story about Colton Weiler. Okay, took Colton. He was James Racer, liam, I can't remember who else. I got the picture of the guys.

Speaker 1: 1:25:59

Took him off to a camp right Stayed up at my in-laws' place and it was when Sigorski had upper level up there and we took those guys up there. We stayed overnight at my father-in-law's and we took the kids to. I can't remember if it was that day that we got out there and stayed overnight. So we got out there in time for those guys to do some stuff outside, right, and this house is surrounded by chipmunks, right? Who?

Speaker 2: 1:26:30

My father, oh, okay, up north in Niagara.

Speaker 4: 1:26:32

Oh, okay.

Speaker 1: 1:26:33

So this is in Niagara, wisconsin, colton, all those guys. Those guys were outside running around and they had a shovel, so the chipmunks, like would go up in his downspouts right and they wreak havoc. If you know, try to at least take care of some of them and Colton caught one with a shovel. He just caught it, they brought it, he's got it in the shovel, they bring it over and he's like look, look, look, look, look look at what we got. He's got this, just shovel his chip.

Speaker 2: 1:27:01

And I was like what the hell in the woods man get out of here.

Speaker 1: 1:27:04

He's a killer. Oh yeah, all the way yeah. Cole Weiler's a killer. He is a killer, so he's taking one. You don't care what you say. Trevor Paulson, you know I like the Aquinas guys. I'd like to see him hopefully maybe make the finals.

Speaker 4: 1:27:25

He's going to get through.

Speaker 1: 1:27:27

My money's always on Lasecki in the finals.

Speaker 4: 1:27:32

No, Lasecki can't get the finals. What he's? The same top record.

Speaker 1: 1:27:37

Dang it Never mind. Yeah, I know I got to keep that in mind when I'm scrolling through here.

Speaker 4: 1:27:43

Yeah, I got it. I don't have it set up, the best way for that.

Speaker 1: 1:27:47

Things leave my head inside. You know how I am right.

Speaker 4: 1:27:50

Oh yeah, I mean Colin Hamm, tough question, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, other, that's my. Did you see the? The video of the strapper kid matthias?

Speaker 1: 1:28:04

uh, kaiser, no, with make like imitating teague, you didn't see. Oh, that one, yes, yes, that is awesome. Well done, matthias, oh yeah, that was great.

Speaker 4: 1:28:10

If you close your eyes, it's definitely teague yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 1: 1:28:15

We just got to get him, like, uh uh, one of those hawaiian polos yeah gonna get one of those hawaiian shirts to wear like teet and then have him do that that's awesome. Yeah, that's funny. Um, this is pretty locked up oh yeah, um I I like the rest of the seeds. I guess your rankings don't match up with them all that well why?

Speaker 4: 1:28:36

I mean I got the one, four, five, two and three. That it's. It's almost the same. Just everything's the same.

Speaker 2: 1:28:44

It's just in the wrong order, like two and seven are together and the three and the six are together, but there's two and seven and three and six.

Speaker 1: 1:28:53

Oh yeah, it's trying to give you a hard time. Yeah, complimenting you before You're noticing my dissing more than the compliments.

Speaker 4: 1:29:02

Yeah, I mean Make you uncomfortable.

Speaker 1: 1:29:05

Yeah, I don't take compliments. All right, we're going to close out D3-150. We've got to get cruising here. Yeah, d3-150 gone, 157-d3. Let me zoom that. Zoom. Oh, that's even easier. There we go. So pop that up. D3-157. Tyson Imhoff, you know I'm not going to say Imhoff is a total lock here no. No one thinks so. Oh, interesting, wow, I do like McGee. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:29:54

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:29:58

Could be a tough one for him, for sure, sorry folks, I do like McGee Mackie.

Speaker 1: 1:30:17

No, I like Medtank yeah. Yeah, I like.

Speaker 4: 1:30:23

Mentink, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:30:25

Obviously, oh, his record's better. No, again, I'm trying to replay some of what Teague and those guys say. Yeah. Because, again, I don't get to watch a lot of these guys' duels either. I hear about them Someone will post a picture about something that they did or whatever but some of these guys I don't get to see. But I hear, Teague those guys. So thank you, Teague.

Speaker 4: 1:30:47

I don't see any Partyville all year, but they always have some super studs. It seems like.

Speaker 1: 1:30:54

We're missing streaming. It's like man Alright. So I, you know, I'm going on. I'm going to say Med Tank, yeah is that a? Final, yeah, the final that'd be pretty nice. I think there's. There's an opportunity for someone to blow something out of the water here. Yeah, but, and again, not to not to snub out Imhoff in any way. I mean, I'm sure his losses were tough, but you know it's state. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:31:25

And I'm going through puberty. So that's D3-157, folks, we're going to kind of skim through that one quick. Yeah, we're going on an hour and a half here, so Already, yeah, d3-165. I feel like this one can be pretty cut and dried too, maybe not not entirely we'll see up there.

Speaker 2: 1:31:49

I know him.

Speaker 1: 1:31:52

I know Jack Owens D3165 is not a lock. Jackson Busty is my favorite, colin Fisher Colin has always been pretty good. Yeah. So I'm not going to sleep on him being able to beat Jackson right. Right.

Speaker 4: 1:32:18

Him and Liam Richards will be a hell of a quarter.

Speaker 1: 1:32:23

Yes, yes, you're talking about Colin, right? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:32:30

That'll be a very good quarter?

Speaker 1: 1:32:33

For sure, blake Carton down here. He's been at it for a while. I've known him since he was grade school. He's been at it for a while. I've known him since he was got grade school, yeah, so he's definitely got an opportunity to make some noise as well. I'd like to see him. He's a junior this year, right, carton? I believe he's a senior. What so this is? The other crazy thing is that Liam's been wrestling with some of these guys for so long. I don't know these guys at being older than him, except because of compute. It would be nice to see Blake make some noise here Six, fifths and seconds so far.

Speaker 1: 1:33:10

Time to win it. Alright, I'm pulling for Blake Blake's. I don't care.

Speaker 4: 1:33:19

Fishers on the other side. I know If they make it together. I'm pulling for Blake. He's got three losses to Fisher though Blake's, I don't care.

Speaker 1: 1:33:21

Fisher's on the other side, I know it doesn't matter, that's fine If they make it together. I'm pulling for Blake. Yeah. Go get it, Colin, so I can see a Carton-Fisher match.

Speaker 4: 1:33:28

There you go.

Speaker 1: 1:33:31

So I want Carton and Fisher in the finals, nice, and I'm pulling for Blake. Sorry Jackson, I just saw something wide open down here. So it's leaving the dust. So, that's D3 165. You got any thoughts on it?

Speaker 4: 1:33:45

No, I mean, it sounds pretty good. I think Bussey's going to get it done, you think?

Speaker 1: 1:33:48

so yeah, I think.

Speaker 4: 1:33:51

Blake makes the finals again.

Speaker 1: 1:33:53

I think it's going to be tough to push Jackson out of that spot. We'll face it, oh yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:34:01

I'll pick number one seed.

Speaker 1: 1:34:03

If it doesn't happen, I'm just tearing up my betting tickets and just throwing them in there, Not going back to Vegas right? No, it just happens or stays there right Wrong. So that was D3 165. Three more weight classes after this, yet D3-175. I'm going to start doing this the fast way. There we go.

Speaker 4: 1:34:29

This is a pretty tough bracket, oh for sure. Kaderul and Mashbank.

Speaker 1: 1:34:35

Man and Trusted Next Time.

Speaker 4: 1:34:38

And Seth Green knows how to good season two.

Speaker 1: 1:34:42

There's that hanky Owen shocked. This is a pretty good bracket. Good luck to everybody. I'm not even going to pick Cade rules tough, but he's taking some losses, obviously yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:34:58

I think all his were out of state. Let me make sure, though, I'm sure. I'm not, he's good, no, he lost Eli Leonard, but then he lost, come on, yeah, 7-3.

Speaker 1: 1:35:07

Really yeah. Where was that Probably High State? Eli was on fire at that tournament. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:35:16

Beat him and yeah, and then his other two are Aaron Stewart and Cy Fowler from Tennessee, cleveland. She said so.

Speaker 1: 1:35:26

No way he lost to Aaron Stewart. Yeah, get out of here.

Speaker 4: 1:35:30

I know, crazy that is just insane.

Speaker 1: 1:35:34

So again, I don't want to make picks on this one. There are things that could happen Again. Cade rules tough. He's got tough losses right, but there are things that could happen here. I would say that Cade's going to win it. It's probably a pretty money in the bank thing.

Speaker 4: 1:35:56

That Mishicot kid is fun to watch.

Speaker 1: 1:35:58

Yes, owen Schacht is definitely fun to watch and Banco is fun to watch. Yes, yeah, owen Schacht is definitely fun to watch and Banco is fun to watch as well.

Speaker 4: 1:36:03

Yeah, I just want to see a match with him and Schmitty.

Speaker 2: 1:36:06

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:36:08

It would be hard to ref.

Speaker 1: 1:36:11

And that's the other crazy thing is that so many more kids now coming up are becoming unpredictable in what they can do Like oh, oh yeah, I've got ryan schmidt locked up right here, like nope, he slipped his foot through and now he's behind and he's got three points, yeah, you got one inch of movement and that's all I need.

Speaker 4: 1:36:29

Yep, and he scored. Yeah, crazy, yeah, that's how much these guys you know, especially at this weight class.

Speaker 1: 1:36:35

Yeah, it's the things that it's a. It's almost weird how we watch heavyweight change.

Speaker 2: 1:36:40

That started a while back.

Speaker 1: 1:36:42

But now all these other weight classes? Because kids are wrestling more often, they're getting more athletic and the kids that are doing well early are athletic. They have athleticism. I mean a lot of what it takes to be somewhat successful in wrestling.

Speaker 1: 1:37:01

It's fun watching Again Tristan. I've seen him since he was little Cade. I know he's been around the way. We didn't know him, but we've seen him at tournaments. He always killed it. And same thing with Banco. Banco's been on the rise for a while now. I want to say he really kind of started last year when he started his real improvements, kind of watching him as he went along. This will be interesting. This will be fun. I think these seeds are pretty good. There's nothing wrong with them. I'm not going to make any trust in he's a good kid, good family. We'll see. Good luck, d3175. Moving on, I feel like sometimes.

Speaker 1: 1:37:39

I get caught at the end there and like rambling on and all that stuff.

Speaker 4: 1:37:43

That we've already said, or something.

Speaker 2: 1:37:44

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:37:45

You really want to make sure you're saying something about it God, I can't miss this one.

Speaker 1: 1:37:49

Ah I got to see somebody else, oh yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:37:52

Well, you've been around the sport that long, you know. You know these kids have put in a lot of work.

Speaker 2: 1:37:56

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:38:02

D3190. I like Bryson too much to not pick him. I can't do that, though, isaiah Carter. See, I was wondering. I forgot that both of them were wrestling because I know I can't remember which one took a break for a little bit.

Speaker 4: 1:38:13

I think it was Isaiah. I'm not positive on that, but I think it was. I can't remember. Either it's another Schwabby or however you say, that random lake there's Simon his older brother was good right yes just a couple years ago, I believe, he graduated so hmm, this is a good scene yeah, I mean Partyville. William Be and Kelly will be a great semi.

Speaker 1: 1:38:45

So because of that, I'm going to look for things that I think could happen. Yeah. Because Isaiah's a senior Right. I'd like to see him get to the finals, are they? I'd like to see him get to the finals, I'd like to see him get to the semifinals. Are they twins? Yes, oh, they are. Yeah, they are. I don't think they have the brains argument about who kicked who out first, who won, but yes, they're definitely twins, although they may come up with their own story now if they see you. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:39:20

Yeah, I like the seeds here. The only one I don't know, caden very well. I haven't seen him wrestle that much Same thing with. Is that Stonky or Stanky?

Speaker 4: 1:39:34

I'll just go Stonky Stonky, so we don't give him a nickname.

Speaker 1: 1:39:39

I'm not about giving people complex. I mean, I was a stab at it. Yeah, I like these seeds.

Speaker 2: 1:39:48

I'd like to see.

Speaker 1: 1:39:49

Isaiah, make some noise though. So let it rip, dude. You get to a certain point, just you're at the end, you know. Let it rip. So good luck to him, good luck to these guys. I think if you guys all do where you're sitting, I think you'll all be happy. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4: 1:40:06

I think Carter finally gets his first one. He's fourth and runner-up.

Speaker 1: 1:40:11

No one's happy not placing Same time as the two, sometimes making it so enjoy. Oh yeah, because it's a whole different environment. It's not a duel coming out of your high school locker room, and that goes for the underclassmen too.

Speaker 4: 1:40:23

You can't have something happen like Bobby Yep. We don't wish it on anybody, but it could happen no.

Speaker 1: 1:40:30

Exactly. So take it in. If you made it this far and you got all the way here placing or no placing have your phone out down there, take some pictures, especially if you're a senior or something, take it in. It's a big deal. So, d3190, good luck guys. Brace and Kelly forgot about you, but your seed's good man. Do better, do better than that seed If you can, great. But you guys are. You have a decent bracket to work through. He has been doing well. I know he's been battling injuries, bryce and Kelly. So that's the only thing. Don't get injured, stay healthy, rest and relax until you get there. Yeah, you know, take it easy, take it in. He's been to the tournament so, but good luck guys. D3 190. Okay, get that out of here. You All right. D3 215 when takes time in this? Right now, tyson Martin's going to win it.

Speaker 1: 1:41:43

That's how that's going down. Yeah, hands down. I know that, sanchez.

Speaker 4: 1:41:48

I know Elijah's tough. Yeah, just came back from injury, though, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:41:51

And that's to me this one's spelled out.

Speaker 4: 1:41:56

Yeah this one's seated perfect.

Speaker 1: 1:41:59

I love the way this one's seated. Yeah, I was just looking at that.

Speaker 4: 1:42:01

This is right on. So crazy how they do that every once in a while. Just look like they threw names in a hat.

Speaker 1: 1:42:07

Yeah, so that's why I want to know what that guy was bitching about, which ones? I want to look at that and see, does it make sense?

Speaker 4: 1:42:15

Well, it's the same thing as when that. What's that guy's name on the website on the forum that always says my rankings are shit. No clue who that guy is. We're not giving him any shine right now, I know, but like he always says oh, they got so many wrong, and then somebody asked him who, and it's like I did.

Speaker 2: 1:42:36

Oh, yeah, you did.

Speaker 4: 1:42:39

And then he didn't say anything.

Speaker 1: 1:42:45

I was like oh cool, well, yeah, which ones are wrong? Right, because I literally go and look at this stuff. Right, I put your rankings next to other people's to see the difference. Yeah, right, right, because I'm trying to understand it more as well right right.

Speaker 1: 1:42:54

so when I, when I see yours make more sense and then someone else's kind of makes sense, like okay, I'm going to go with yours, Right. But to me there's a lot of math and I'll be honest with you. Some people use different stuff. Some people have a different criteria than another one, which is all well and good, but then that doesn't make you better than the other one, because he has one thing or you have another thing, so they're just rankings after that. But when you try to tout that you had the best around that's arguable.

Speaker 4: 1:43:31

That's definitely arguable. I definitely don't put best on my website.

Speaker 1: 1:43:33

I do.

Speaker 4: 1:43:33

I know. I put it out there, I know, but I'm just saying like when you go to there it says number one. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:43:43

It's just crazy. That's why I say the rest copy and paste. Apparently that's upset some people, so that's fine, I'm cool with that they can find me Not the first time you've ever upset somebody. No, no, no, never, never. The first time it's like ooh, never, never the first time. It was the last time, I promise you. Sorry, guys, we didn't really go through this.

Speaker 4: 1:44:06

No, you just said Tyson was winning, and that was it.

Speaker 1: 1:44:09

Yeah, sorry guys, so I'm not trying to, but these seats look good too. Oh yeah, again, I hate the buys guys. Yeah. Now, what's the change next year?

Speaker 4: 1:44:21

It's not passing yet.

Speaker 1: 1:44:22

But explain to me like I'm a fifth grader what these changes are.

Speaker 4: 1:44:25

So it's going to be. The divisions are going to be as if it passes. Yeah, right now, I think it's only 67% passing. It needs to be 70, I think.

Speaker 3: 1:44:35

Well, it's not far, yeah, but there's still like 130 schools that haven't voted, oh I think.

Speaker 4: 1:44:40

Well, it's not far, yeah, but there's still like 130 schools that haven't voted, not even close to being all of them.

Speaker 1: 1:44:42

But what does this dynamic do?

Speaker 4: 1:44:44

All it's going to do is make D2, d3, and D1 all the same amount of qualifiers, but you'll only have one. Instead of having sectional and regional, you'll just have one super sectional and the top two go for it.

Speaker 1: 1:45:01

So every division.

Speaker 4: 1:45:02

And there's only seven sectionals, and so there's only going to be 14 to make it to state the first and second seeds get buys.

Speaker 1: 1:45:09

So everybody in a sectional will wrestle each other then? Yeah, so they're adding more buys.

Speaker 4: 1:45:17

I know you're going to be thrilled by that. That's stupid. Every division is going to have a buy now if it passes.

Speaker 1: 1:45:24

Will that buy always be to the 1C Always?

Speaker 4: 1:45:26

be to the 1 and 2.

Speaker 1: 1:45:27

Always be to the 1 and 2.

Speaker 4: 1:45:29

So you'll only have to win one match to place at state as a 1 or 2C.

Speaker 1: 1:45:35

Shut up.

Speaker 4: 1:45:36

That's what it is for D2 and D3.

Speaker 1: 1:45:38

What? Who wants that? People think it's a good idea.

Speaker 4: 1:45:41

Well, D2 and D3 want it because they feel slighted by not having the same amount of qualifiers. But the only thing is you can't have this and competitive balance because it's just going to screw over D1.

Speaker 1: 1:45:54

So here's the other thing is that it's based off of enrollment. Right too as far as your divisions, because I know soccer is that way yeah. Because now Xavier is going to be able to, you know, D4 or whatever. So that's all. Demographics. Like you, can't force that. Right. You can't force that to change because someone you know like then, otherwise there should be more teams, co-opting them. Yeah, To make full teams. Right, I mean Because otherwise you're going to have certain teams showing up with half a team. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:46:23

I mean, that's one side of it, but not the entire argument. Yeah. Well, that's crazy. Okay, well, and then?

Speaker 4: 1:46:28

the team. Part of it would be the next weekend, so when regionals is would be the super sectional and then regionals would be a six-team duel that Saturday. Then you would just do state and then team state.

Speaker 1: 1:46:43

I don't know if I like it.

Speaker 4: 1:46:45

I'm not sure it's going to pass.

Speaker 1: 1:46:46

I don't know if I like that. Again, I'm also the dude that, whatever we're doing, just tell me what it is. Where I've got to be, what I've got to do, whatever.

Speaker 4: 1:46:59

There's certain D2 and D3 teams that will completely bitch if it doesn't pass, because they think they're so slighted by only getting 12. What?

Speaker 1: 1:47:10

are you going to do? Get more people. Yeah. I guess in your town, they have more kids, whatever.

Speaker 4: 1:47:19

Or whatever they're saying, co-op yeah right.

Speaker 1: 1:47:20

I guess in your town they have more kids. Whatever, yeah right, it only makes sense to do that because you need full teams then to be able to even. I guess I'd like to see the teams that are like this isn't fair. How big are your teams? Right. You know, like what type of team are you pulling that? You think you're just going to be able to jump up into something like that and be like, oh yeah, we're going to do fine you know.

Speaker 4: 1:47:42

Yeah, now that they're getting 14, we'll still only get two to stay.

Speaker 1: 1:47:45

They're only going to get slighted when they're getting their butts kicked. Probably, probably. Somebody else is small, you know, okay, anyways, yeah, tyson, martin, win it. I like the seeds. We're good there. D3, 215. Call that, let's go over here.

Speaker 2: 1:48:02

Again folks.

Speaker 1: 1:48:02

I'm going to apologize one more time for being late. I hate being late yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:48:10

Hey, we've only been going for like an hour and 50 already.

Speaker 1: 1:48:13

We're almost to where this last of D3. 285, D3. You know, I guess it's pretty much. It yeah, 285 D3. Oh you know, I guess it's pretty much their block. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:48:22

For number one anyway. Yeah, he's beat. He's beat the Iowa Grant kid like two or three times.

Speaker 1: 1:48:28

That's a seeded.

Speaker 4: 1:48:29

R. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:48:32

I like this. Yeah, this will be a fun one to watch. I'm going to watch this. Go down. Maybe I'll go grab some Dippin' Dots and meander and watch some of the bigger dudes. I'm so excited to go down there again. It's been fun. Well, it's not like it's done, but it's been fun being able to go stay like that. Yeah for sure I'm going to say that this might turn out the way that it is. Yeah, for sure. So I'm going to say that this might turn out the way that it is. Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 4: 1:49:05

Cool. Yeah, the Irogrant kid's fun to watch, but I think Matthews is finally going to figure it out, right?

Speaker 1: 1:49:14

You know, maybe Hilgers throws in a little wrench.

Speaker 2: 1:49:16

maybe I'd like to see some upsets, you know, prove me wrong in little wrench.

Speaker 3: 1:49:20

maybe I'd like to see some upsets. Prove me wrong on this one.

Speaker 1: 1:49:23

Yeah, I like it Again. Folks, the brackets that we're showing are the brackets that are for state, with the rankings that Wisconsin Grappler has on their website wisconsingrapplercom. He built these brackets, put their rankings, so we can kind of see where guys wind up based off of the information that Zach puts together. Not everyone's been perfect, but I mean he's been pretty damn close. Yeah, you know, I definitely would like to put him against anything else. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:49:58

You know so especially for the state. This is pretty damn good. Again, this seating is alright, If someone has an example of something that is way off. Let us know, Right now, Teague just said you guys aren't allowed to finish this until. Let us know, Like right now, Teague just said you guys aren't allowed to finish, You're not allowed to finish this until. I'm done with my pick, the podium picks man we got over 100 already this year.

Speaker 4: 1:50:31

So that's crazy, because I think I had 116 all last year. Definitely going to have a lot more entries than that and there will be a live leaderboard while you're down there. It's going to be pretty nifty, pretty nifty.

Speaker 1: 1:50:49

All right, let's go over to D2. Congrats to everybody that made it through in D3.

Speaker 1: 1:50:56

Like I said, it's still a big deal, just making it through, regardless of how you think you're going to do it Dark, blue Regardless of how you think you're going to do, enjoy every minute of it. Take it in. You don't know if it's going to happen again. If you're a senior, it's definitely not going to happen again, unless you've got some red shirt in high school that we haven't found out about. You're taking it. Yeah Right, all right, so we got D2, 106. Ta-da, let's see here.

Speaker 2: 1:51:39

Huh.

Speaker 4: 1:51:40

Yeah, I don't like the one and two being on the same. Well, one, two and three, I'll be on yeah, I'm not a fan of that but this is another thing, with the uh uh freshman not getting their due. You know, yeah, yeah, carson bassett too, like I know he has a lot of losses, but all those came at like uh, uh, like the clash, or whatever they go to. They go to the Stampede, yeah, and then they go to the Cheesehead. But he entered out of the Cheesehead, he only got two there, but still.

Speaker 2: 1:52:07

Yeah so.

Speaker 4: 1:52:08

I mean, huh, that's a crazy quarter right there the two, three and five all together.

Speaker 1: 1:52:13

Do you take into account those types of losses too?

Speaker 4: 1:52:17

Oh yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1: 1:52:17

Like national type losses, I guess.

Speaker 4: 1:52:19

Yeah, I mean, or wins, the only way that they count against you in this state is if you lost to somebody in the state or unless somebody in this state has beat somebody, you'd be out of state. You know, like I, have no way to gauge unless, like, how bad they are. I can see how good they are, but I, like I, I can't gauge how. If a guy's not ranked or hasn't done anything in the state, I have no way to gauge if that guy's good, if he got caught.

Speaker 1: 1:52:47

You mean the out-of-state guy.

Speaker 4: 1:52:48

Yeah, oh, I know that, but I'm saying I don't never see him. I get what you're saying I understand, unless somebody in this state has a win or a loss over that guy. I can't really, obviously, if they're ranked or one state, I can tell that they're good, right, right.

Speaker 1: 1:53:12

Excuse me, I'll shut up. I've been hearing a lot about Dorshorst. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:53:21

I think that Helen Drone kid is tough at the two seed or the four seed. I mean Sorry, I haven't heard.

Speaker 1: 1:53:29

Well, oh no, I have, I have. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know man, that'd be a good quarter right.

Speaker 4: 1:53:36

Yeah, yeah. Any of those guys will be a good quarter. Doorhorst and Bassett's going to be a good one too. He's in every bracket, every bracket.

Speaker 2: 1:53:49

It feels like he's all over the bracket.

Speaker 4: 1:53:51

Actually it's tough, it's like the Forfe brothers.

Speaker 1: 1:53:56

But he never makes it through, he never. He's always one and done the Forfe brothers, but he never makes it through.

Speaker 4: 1:54:00

Yeah, you know he never.

Speaker 1: 1:54:01

Well, he's had to return.

Speaker 4: 1:54:01

He's always one and done.

Speaker 1: 1:54:04

Yeah Well, sometimes it's on the backside. It makes it to the backside once in a while, you know.

Speaker 4: 1:54:08

Yeah, sometimes he's really deep in the bracket and you're like how'd he get there?

Speaker 1: 1:54:14

He keeps losing Can.

Speaker 4: 1:54:15

Oh yeah, as long as you're doing D2 and D3, and then there aren't any in D1.

Speaker 1: 1:54:22

Yeah, these seeds are good. No well, yeah, you're talking about Basset, that kind of thing. Yeah, that's just crazy that those guys same thing with Liam's bracket. Yeah. Yeah, they're all Two, three and four on one side. Yeah. Oh yeah, you know, I do like Dorshaw. I think I'm going to pick him for finals. Yeah, yeah, I think so. Sorry, colin, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:54:52

Because this is again to me.

Speaker 1: 1:54:53

This is seated fairly correctly, so that's why I'm kind of looking at it. Yeah, okay, I mean it's a perfect place. So that's why I'm kind of looking at me. Yeah, okay, that's what I'm just kind of like you I like him as a sleeper. Oh yeah, you know, like I think. I think I would say they call it price. So good, he's probably, but I think doors first, a little bit of sleeper yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:55:13

I hear a lot of talking so um, so that's a d2106. Some of these guys again, I don't know. Yeah, so if I don't mention you, I do apologize. You can definitely comment at any point. You can definitely say anything on any of our posts at any time. If it's mean or malicious, we'll probably be mean and malicious back. It's the fun of it. It's an adult picking on a kid, right? Isn't that fun? It's not fun. We are kidding. Yeah, this is weird. It's good that they're on the opposite side. I'm. This is weird. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah, I mean, it's good that they're on the opposite side, right?

Speaker 4: 1:56:05

I'm not arguing that, yeah, I mean the Evansville kid is 2-1 against Roshan.

Speaker 2: 1:56:10

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4: 1:56:11

But the last win was last weekend. I didn't even look and see if he was winning when he got pinned, though, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:56:18

He should have probably done that his pen I didn't even look and see if he was winning when he got pinned though. Yeah, some good records in here too. Yeah, obviously a little difference in some of the seats, but again not far off, I like this seating.

Speaker 4: 1:56:34

Yeah, yeah, everybody's separated. Might not be correctly, but it's. Good this would be a good bracket.

Speaker 1: 1:56:39

Yeah, everybody's separated. It might not be correctly, but it's Staying close. Good, this will be a good bracket.

Speaker 4: 1:56:44

I'm going with the freshman, are you?

Speaker 1: 1:56:48

Avenge that loss. Okay, I'm going to go with Rashaun. Yeah. To beat your freshman. Yeah. Yeah, rain on his parade. There you go. Good luck to all of them. Yeah, yeah, rain on his parade. There you go. Good luck to all of them. Yeah, don't don't, we don't dislike you, we're just having fun. D2113, again, good seeds. This is going to be a good tournament folks.

Speaker 1: 1:57:13

Yeah, we can't agree the whole time. No, no, it's going to be a good tournament. I think a lot of these kids that weren't ranked to be able to make it through that's pretty damn big 33-13, 31-19. It shows that you've learned some lessons and now you're starting to bring it to the top. So make some noise, man, you guys who have NR next to you. I know it doesn't matter to everybody, it shouldn't, but it's fun to look at, right, maybe you can change the score up a little bit yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:57:48

Show some people what's up. So D2113, we out on that one. We're going to go to 120. D3120, d2120. Jeez, I'm going to go with Koss on this one. Yeah, yeah, let me present it to the folks. Yeah, I watched Koss for quite a while. He's one of my favorites to watch and one of the wider weights other than Arthur Conaghy guys. Yeah 36 last year. Logan Shod Hard to pick against that kid too.

Speaker 4: 1:58:28

Yeah, I mean Lane Anderson. Like if it hadn't been for the horrible seeding last year, I think he would have placed yeah, but he didn't, so that's why he got the crappy seed this year. So he got the crappy seed this year.

Speaker 1: 1:58:44

So he got the three seed.

Speaker 4: 1:58:50

Noah Walker. That's crazy. He had a really bad loss at the end of the year. That's why he was pretty high up in the. Was he? Yeah, because he beat DeLong. But then he got beat last week. You're just just that, but he got beat, I don't know. Well, he was JV for a minute and he went to a JV tournament. It was very weird. I couldn't tell what was going on.

Speaker 1: 1:59:07

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:59:09

Maybe he like they go to Minnesota a lot, so maybe it was a weight descent thing, like you know, because the weights are different over there.

Speaker 1: 1:59:16

Yeah, they never know. Well, it would be fun to see Lane and Colton throw down. That's just crazy at 19 and 7. Like you said, he took a tough loss, or? Whatever. Yeah. Maybe, he's a sleeper. Yeah he's won with the long already Does he yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:59:34

Okay.

Speaker 4: 1:59:37

So that's his first-round match.

Speaker 1: 1:59:39

I think all those are from the same section.

Speaker 4: 1:59:40

I mean, I don't think he's going to beat Anderson, but it'd just be interesting to see how he does kind of get through that yeah he was one of the kids that, like I always like, whenever I'm doing the preseason rankings, I always go on Instagram and add the people I don't have you know. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:59:57

And I added him and he made a post about I've been waiting for this, you know, yeah, does it mean? Doesn't mean much to some people, but some people it means a lot to get the recognition that they, especially seniors, you know, like that, just now, finally getting on there.

Speaker 1: 2:00:14

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:00:14

Yep, I agree yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:00:16

Totally agree.

Speaker 4: 2:00:17

Some people could care less. There's like yeah, I know I'm good yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:00:22

Totally agree. Some people could care less.

Speaker 4: 2:00:24

They're just like yeah, I know I'm good. Thanks yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:00:25

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it costs Anderson, that'll be a good one. Yeah, yeah, oh. What school is cost from?

Speaker 4: 2:00:36

the Gail. Wow, that's a. It's five different names.

Speaker 1: 2:00:43

I keep just seeing Law. Yeah, lacrosse, lacrosse, area wrestling. That's all I know. I know he went to high school. I just instantly see a Law singling on him. That'll be a good final. Alright, we're going to get a D2120 speed along here, a little bit Like I keep pretending we're going to. Okay, you guys are, that's the same one. I'm losing my mind. I can't move my. D2126. That's spurly. It's a big name in wrestling. Yeah, um, you know, you know Well, bogart Bogart-Peters match that would be the final.

Speaker 1: 2:01:47

That would be pretty sweet right there, bogart-peters.

Speaker 4: 2:01:51

I mean Bogart and injuries will be a good Semi if it happens. They both put it on Andy. Pretty good yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:02:00

Huh, semi, if it happens, they both put it on Andy pretty good.

Speaker 2: 2:02:02

That'll be a good one.

Speaker 4: 2:02:05

Huh, and McAllister, ramage and Peters, it's set up to be a pretty good semi.

Speaker 2: 2:02:10

That's it.

Speaker 4: 2:02:11

Rhett doesn't throw a wrench in there, you know.

Speaker 1: 2:02:12

Right, right, that's kind of what I was thinking.

Speaker 4: 2:02:16

I'm definitely looking past Rhett there Can't imagine his losses Are all that. No, he's got all Tough losses For sure.

Speaker 1: 2:02:28

Well, we'll see how this one plays out. Man, obviously your ranking is a little different from the seedings Than this one was.

Speaker 4: 2:02:33

Yeah, and then you got the Coleman kit Connor Markowitz or whatever his name is Good to see him make it his senior year.

Speaker 1: 2:02:40

Correct, he's a beast, that'd be, you know. Honestly, markowitz would be one that I would be. I would not be surprised if he's able to beat Paul Gardner, yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:02:52

Yeah, it's definitely not out of the realm of possibilities.

Speaker 1: 2:02:56

Sorry, landon, no hate.

Speaker 4: 2:02:57

No hate, connor's tough.

Speaker 1: 2:03:02

So that'll be interesting. We'll see how that one turns out. I actually kind of want to watch that one. Yeah, good luck, connor, kill it. Good luck, landon Aiden. All those guys, we'll watch all these guys. It's crazy. I gotta start getting some more youth so I can start talking there.

Speaker 4: 2:03:20

You go, take notes, you got the crop that your son is in now you, just, you might just be a little creepy if you just go to the right that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 2:03:33

I'm not scouting for a team, I'm just there watching kids wrestle. I want to see how these guys turn out in seven years. I'll talk about these guys turn out in seven years.

Speaker 4: 2:03:40

I'll talk about you on my podcast in seven years Now. Yeah, well, you could now Do it now. Yeah, if you want, you can start your own.

Speaker 1: 2:03:48

You can get parents' permission and stuff like that. Oh yeah, all right. All right, so I'm sure some people are going to bed pretty soon. Oh, I'm sure some people are going to bed pretty soon. I get it D2-126, we out. Yeah. We'll go to D2-175. No, I'm just kidding. D2-132, y'all, that's a boom. Two-course race here, top. Oh yeah, number one's a lock, sorry guys. Yeah, I know what you're saying.

Speaker 4: 2:04:30

sorry, brady guess, learn Brady would be a good yes, that would be a good quarter. Brady versus. I think Brady's going. I think, yeah, I think that I, I think.

Speaker 1: 2:04:38

Brady's going to win, I think.

Speaker 4: 2:04:40

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:04:41

I think that but I also think Brady can be going. Yeah, oh yeah, sure, I think we're going to see a Collins-Koncevic final. Okay, I think that's what we're going to have. Yeah, Weston Ingham, I know is very tough. Yeah. It'll be great to see him pop through and make some noise too.

Speaker 4: 2:05:01

He lost to Caleb Weidman already this year, really, but that was a fall, so I don't know if he got caught or not, sure, but I know he has lost to him this year.

Speaker 1: 2:05:10

Okay, we know you guys, we see you. Okay, and Willie Christopher like that's an unfortunate draw.

Speaker 4: 2:05:19

Yeah, yeah, totally. What are you going to do Tom's, which is? Maybe I believe his own in this bracket, Correct? It's been ridiculous to watch him get that much better.

Speaker 1: 2:05:32

I remember him as a freshman. Where does he go to school?

Speaker 4: 2:05:35

Freedom no, no no. Oh Wisconsin Wisconsin. Yeah, yeah, he's. A oh Wisconsin Wisconsin. Yeah, yeah, he was.

Speaker 1: 2:05:43

They got one yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:05:46

Yeah, they did. They got a lot of the Sarbacher guys, but that was.

Speaker 1: 2:05:52

That's a lot. Even the seating in that one looked all right yeah it was decent. It wasn't too bad, so that'll be interesting to watch. That was 132. So that'll be interesting to watch. That was 132. So that was D2, 132, thomas Ewax-Lock, a couple other guys will be competitive. So now we're at 138. Now we're really starting to get into the meat of things here a little bit. Yeah, my money's on.

Speaker 4: 2:06:17

Ethan I don't know Bozell. I know Bo don't know Bozell.

Speaker 1: 2:06:22

I know. I know yeah well, you know a good point. I do think Emil could beat him. But I think Emil is going to because Cole has gotten pretty tough. He has always kind of just gotten a little bit tougher each year.

Speaker 4: 2:06:42

Right, I think he's like a what fourth or sixth, fourth and second.

Speaker 1: 2:06:46

Yes, so it's always a little bit better. So this I may be jumping the gun on that, but again I may be in a little forever. I think he could pull it off. Sorry, Cole.

Speaker 4: 2:07:02

Yeah, I'm going.

Speaker 1: 2:07:03

Cole yeah, but I'm still going. Ethan For sure. The other guy that I think Mason heard. I think he could be a problem. He could turn into a problem. Yeah, I think he'll be able to get to the semis problem, he could turn into a problem. Yeah, I think he'll be able to get to the semis against Emil. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:07:28

That's what I think. Dylan Cole will be a really good match too. Yes.

Speaker 1: 2:07:33

Yep, Weigel's pretty good too.

Speaker 4: 2:07:34

Yes, correct, I think he lost 3-1.

Speaker 1: 2:07:39

And then Devin Wunke, I think. I think Devin could get to the quarters with Ethan.

Speaker 4: 2:07:50

Is he healthy?

Speaker 1: 2:07:50

Yes, but that's going to be a tough one. I think he's wrestled Ethan before in the past as kids. Oh yeah. If I remember correctly. But it's good to see Devon still sticking with the mouth. Yeah. But dad did some health issues for a little bit, but he's sticking with it, so that's good. So this is this will be this we talk. I could, I could see. I Could see Devon make a podium. Yeah, I think he's going to beat his rank, right. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:08:23

I could see him make a podium, so we'll see. I think it's his senior, isn't it? Junior, junior, he has the same age as Liam. That's one of them. Yeah, one of them has the same age as Liam. Okay, so that's a good bracket. 138. I'll pick an MO. You're going with Zeal. Good pick, solid pick. There too, I want one kid to make his way through and make his podium here. Good luck to everybody. That's D2138. Moving right along, I'll pick up. Come on.

Speaker 4: 2:08:58

Had to get that in there before you. If you want to copy it, I guess you can, can I?

Speaker 1: 2:09:03

Yeah, at least I'll ask All right, d2144, for your WIA individual state wrestling tournament Betty Miller, it's good to see him make it through again too. Hocken, obviously going to win. So number one to lock. We'll say that I could see, I could see. I don't know if Benny can beat Hudson. That's a tough one.

Speaker 4: 2:09:44

Yeah, I mean that freshman from Platteville will be a tough one. Even, yeah, he'll have to go through three really tough matches there. He does If he beats Harkus White, and then White's really tough too. Hudson Sebastian, however you say that.

Speaker 1: 2:09:59

Get on the podium, benny. Yeah, get out of the podium. Benny, yeah, get out of the podium. But these are pretty decently well-seated here. Yeah. This is all I like it. Your rankings are pretty close. Yeah yeah, this is good. D2, 144. We know who's winning it. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:10:17

It'll be fun to watch. Yeah, not trying to sell any other guys short by not saying anything.

Speaker 1: 2:10:23

Again, it's the same thing you said with the girls. It's kind of like you just know, right.

Speaker 4: 2:10:27

I didn't want to smash. Until he does, I'm not going to pick against him. I'm sorry, Sorry y'all.

Speaker 1: 2:10:35

So D2144, we'll get through that one quick Down there. D2144, we'll get through that one quick.

Speaker 2: 2:10:42

Down there D2150.

Speaker 1: 2:10:46

50. Oh, you know.

Speaker 4: 2:10:49

Could be the most interesting final Probably.

Speaker 1: 2:10:51

Probably Talking Lodi Blackhawk. No, no Schools, oh. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that is going to be the final, isn't it? Yeah, trey Good to see Trey made state.

Speaker 4: 2:11:07

Yeah, he came back after being out, for I don't know if he's injured or whatever.

Speaker 1: 2:11:12

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:11:13

He was out for a while.

Speaker 1: 2:11:14

Murphy making some noise too. You know, I think, I think. Murphy could make it out of that bottom half.

Speaker 4: 2:11:25

Yeah, the Danwoods I know.

Speaker 1: 2:11:28

Yeah, he said that sometimes. Definitely not going to donate any of the Fenelore dudes. Murphy's been that kid that's been working his ass off Zander's I think Zander Se off Xander.

Speaker 2: 2:11:42

I think Xyler Xander.

Speaker 1: 2:11:43

Xander, yeah, yeah, I just think I said, oh, we got dogs. My dog's dying, but I'm not going to show him off, I'm going to let him wander on the floor and scrap our leg. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:12:01

What is he doing? I don't know. He's biting my fingers.

Speaker 1: 2:12:04

No hit him.

Speaker 4: 2:12:06

I'm not going to oh it is Cut it out.

Speaker 1: 2:12:09

You can hit him, I can't. No, no, okay, yeah, got a little dog interference here. We're just not showing right now. So we got, we got the final set there. That's going to be yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:12:31

I think that is going to be good. I think Bryson can scramble. That's the thing with Bryson, and I can't remember how good Safrut is with scrambling. But I know Safrut is very solid in defense and I also know that he likes to score off your offense, so that would be interesting to watch. I think the seeds play out fairly well here. I would like to see Murphy-Beyer come through, maybe make it to a semi, but we'll see Zandano, it's tough. I would like to see Murphy Beyer come through, maybe make it to a semi, but we'll see Zandano, it's tough. We'll see Pulling for you, murphy, find out what happens. There's one of your freedom guys there, thomas Hevick. That's it for 150. He's pretty locked up, looks pretty solid. The seeds are great. As far as the rankings, again, to me they're pretty damn good. So we're going to move over to 157. D2. That's a lock.

Speaker 4: 2:13:40

Who are you picking, zach, let's see.

Speaker 1: 2:13:45

This is the game. Yeah, danny, heiser, danny.

Speaker 4: 2:13:47

Heiser, he's probably going to set the wins record at this state, is he? Yeah?

Speaker 1: 2:13:54

What's the wins record? Is it 222?

Speaker 4: 2:13:56

No, it's like 212 or 2. I can't remember the exact number, but yeah, I think he's Paced to beat it as long as he wins.

Speaker 1: 2:14:05

As long as he wins out. Well, congrats to Danny Heiser, he's gonna win it. So again and I've explained this before About him he has the craziest weird strength. Yeah. Gets in the crappiest. He's pretty positional now. Right Back in the day, when we first started seeing him wrestle, we'd get in some of the worst positions and still take you down.

Speaker 4: 2:14:28

Yeah, I remember his final versus Easton that year, or maybe a semi Warchuk, easton, warchuk. Yeah, his freshman year. I can't remember if it was a final or semi, but I was like how did he not give up and take that A couple positions? He's just so strong.

Speaker 1: 2:14:47

Pull him for Spencer to make some noise, to come up by Danny and maybe do some damage to Danny. I still see that. Sorry, man.

Speaker 4: 2:15:01

It'd be great if it could happen.

Speaker 1: 2:15:06

That's a true number one spot. That's a lot. The seeds in here are okay. This one doesn't make sense to me. Not ranked 15 and 7. Yeah, wasn't he doing alright? He didn't do alright last year.

Speaker 4: 2:15:28

Oh yeah, he was high seed and he didn't do anything.

Speaker 1: 2:15:31

Oh, he didn't. Oh oh oh. I thought I was going to say I remember that name.

Speaker 4: 2:15:35

Yeah, you said that name last year and you were like this is my guy, I'm going to pick him as a draft pick.

Speaker 1: 2:15:40

Oh, and I shouldn't have picked you dude.

Speaker 4: 2:15:41

Yeah, he was ranked. He was seeded fourth last year.

Speaker 1: 2:15:44

I'll pick you as a dark horse this year. I'll do it again. Yeah, I'll do it again. Cage, got it, got it. Whoever knows Cage Westman? I just picked him. That's my dark horse. Even though it didn't happen last year, I'm picking them again. I don't care, I don't gamble. Right like this is you can tell why I don't gamble? Because I'm gonna go with something that I lost with before.

Speaker 4: 2:16:08

Yeah, I don't care right whatever just, yeah, it's like the, not like the definition of insanity.

Speaker 1: 2:16:14

You just keep doing the same thing, um, now don't get me wrong, not, not. A dark horse would be Danny, no, no.

Speaker 4: 2:16:23

If you're picking that up, we're going to go to the hospital.

Speaker 1: 2:16:26

I'm going to pick him. A dark horse would be third. You can't, I want to.

Speaker 4: 2:16:31

Yeah, but you can't. You can't get to third.

Speaker 1: 2:16:33

I still want to. You can get to fifth. No, I said third.

Speaker 4: 2:16:38

Okay, we'll call somebody and see you can get the fifth. No, yeah, I said third. Okay, well, we'll call somebody and see.

Speaker 1: 2:16:41

All right, then Okay, so that's D2157. That's a fun one. Good luck, danny. Hope you get the record. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:16:52

Pasta, la pasta. Let's see, we got D2165. Roll and light up right along that side. There we go Right along. See, it really helps when you have these guys that are locked. What, what was that? What was that? You can't pick, dude, you can't, you can't pick your phone up. Laugh at me and then not tell me what it is, what it it's just tea somebody doesn't have the balls to put up on youtube, I take it so I don't think it's a balls thing.

Speaker 1: 2:17:29

It's my more of an inside joke for me oh, oh yeah, something I just don't know about yeah well, just because I don't understand, I won't get into it. So we have D2165. Nice to see. Austin Cuffer in there. Yeah, what's that schedule? Look like for him without being in Kekona.

Speaker 4: 2:17:54

Not as tough as it would be, but I mean, it looks like a pretty smart move.

Speaker 1: 2:18:00

Yeah, 3-8-4. Who are his four losses? Let me check that Tournament losses, I'm assuming. Yeah, not conference.

Speaker 4: 2:18:15

No, well, he had to have at least one at sectional, because I only got two on here, so I must have had two. He lost the Mishka sketch.

Speaker 1: 2:18:24

How do?

Speaker 4: 2:18:24

you say that, and then Kilopowski lost five to six to Kilopowski.

Speaker 1: 2:18:30

Is that Kilopowski?

Speaker 2: 2:18:32

Kilopowski, I remember those guys talking about that. So he took a loss to him.

Speaker 1: 2:18:38

Okay, tristan's going to win it. Yeah. That's a lock. You know, liam went to 165. Since we'll discuss the whole ducking thing, oh yeah, liam went to 165 to wrestle Tristan again. Right, yeah, he wanted that match back right. Right, lost him at the big cheese thing, whatever. Yeah, and he gets tacked Right. So I mean I heard that he was sick or whatever, but Liam was seriously pissed.

Speaker 4: 2:19:11

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:19:12

He's like I wanted that freaking match.

Speaker 4: 2:19:13

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1: 2:19:15

That's stupid. Yeah, you know, but what do you do? Didn't shake out the way? I mean he wasn't going to lose, right To go and wrestle him.

Speaker 4: 2:19:24

Yeah, well, technically you're going to get tech before it, because he got beat by the guy we had in the final Correct First. Was it 1-0? Or something like that.

Speaker 1: 2:19:34

Like crazy. Yes, it was a close one on that, because the St Charles East kid teched Tristan. Yeah, after that, and then Liam teched that kid. Yeah. So that's why I was like what happened. Right. But it sounded like he was sick that day or something like that. But Tristan's doing that. Yeah. Maybe let's go to a hypothetical here. Maybe Austin is able to beat this guy. Maybe, and then he can come down to Kowalski, kowalski, kowalski. These guys went through it one time.

Speaker 4: 2:20:20

I think Steve had said it.

Speaker 1: 2:20:22

You say kill and then Kowalski yes, because someone told him Right. Literally, this is how we tell people to say it Okay, kill Kowalski. Okay, I'm down with it. Okay, let's see if we can get Austin through to the 70s.

Speaker 3: 2:20:38

Yeah, see if we can get austin through to the 70s yeah, you know.

Speaker 1: 2:20:40

Yeah, austin, you know, really put it on carter if you can. Yeah, great, that's right, I mean, otherwise everything looks pretty nice yeah everything looks like it should and probably will go the way that it is so, but again, I'd like to see him get it through. But okay. D2165, moving right or wrong. I'm not hiding this from you guys. Did I even show you guys 165? See, I did it again.

Speaker 1: 2:21:10

Oh you did. Did you see it over there? I did not. I wasn't looking, though. Well, I kind of showed it. Just pure silliness. See it again, me not prepared. It's ridiculous. Show it there. D2. 165. Dirt to dirt. Tristan's winning it. I'm saying, austin, work some miggity magic, get to the finals. Let's see you do something. We're rooting for you, even though you should be at Kekona. Dang it. I not argued, but I told his mom, like no, no, he'd have to.

Speaker 4: 2:21:57

It'd be a bear to get him in right now. I mean he'd go 57, maybe, but it's just like I don't know. The last couple years would have been.

Speaker 1: 2:22:08

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but he was a different weight, the last couple years.

Speaker 4: 2:22:12

He was 150 last year. He was following Colin everywhere.

Speaker 1: 2:22:17

Oh, Colin was 150? Yeah, last year.

Speaker 4: 2:22:19

Really yeah, man, he got big.

Speaker 1: 2:22:22

Him and Brady got big.

Speaker 4: 2:22:26

Yeah, brady, brady should have got bigger. He's a little bit undersized.

Speaker 1: 2:22:32

D2-165. There folks, I want to make sure I showed you. So there's that. He put some fancy waves in there.

Speaker 4: 2:22:41

Yeah, I mean it's the graphics folks, Not he. My wife did that. I can't. I wouldn't be able to do this. Good job, Melissa. Yeah, she's the MVP.

Speaker 1: 2:22:53

Alright, that's D2165. Winner picks there. Just wanted to make sure you guys saw the graphics. No reason why Zach's here otherwise.

Speaker 4: 2:23:02

It's for my good looks, I'm not supposed to laugh.

Speaker 1: 2:23:07

Hey, micah, that guy's come around our way a couple times. Yeah, he has Boom D2175. Liam's always had some decent matches against him, but I don't know if Liam comes out ahead. Griffin Marco this is interesting. Here I think Griffin Marco has a chance to win it. Nothing against Micah. I've just seen Griffin wrestle a couple times and I think he looks pretty good. Japan here he looks pretty good. To me. This bracket here, especially in this division, it's not. I mean, look at where Porter is, it's 21-11.

Speaker 4: 2:23:56

I have no clue why he got the 4C.

Speaker 2: 2:24:02

That makes no sense.

Speaker 1: 2:24:03

Yeah, so maybe this is the type of thing they're talking about. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:24:09

This is one of the ones that's really bad. There's four people that I could see just looking at the screen right now. Right, so I don't know. We'll see how this pans out here. Just looking at the screen right now, right so? So I don't know.

Speaker 1: 2:24:23

We'll see how this pans out here.

Speaker 4: 2:24:25

I think this is one where they kind of put a little too much weight on a sectional champ, sure In a weak sectional.

Speaker 1: 2:24:32

Sure Yep, I mean the final I see up here. Yeah. Marco Cocteau. So I'm pulling for Marco on this one. Mike, you're a good wrestler. It's just.

Speaker 2: 2:24:45

I've just seen.

Speaker 1: 2:24:45

Marco wrestle. I think he's a little. He's got the edge.

Speaker 4: 2:24:49

I think Marco and Esmond Sweers will be a good match in the semis.

Speaker 1: 2:24:53

Yeah, yeah, I think Marco beats him. Yeah, yeah. So this is an odd. I mean just some different placements of guys. Yeah, blaschke, 22 and 11. And he's 21 and 11. You're like, okay, okay.

Speaker 4: 2:25:10

Yeah, like I said, I Just weird. Some of them are just really head scratchers.

Speaker 2: 2:25:15

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4: 2:25:16

I would love for somebody to sit down and explain that one. Because that one? Because that one's like it's different. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:25:23

It's different. Okay, all right, so that's D2175. We're going to move on from there. We are going to go to 190. D2190. Let's see that. A little burling, I think he's got a chance to make some noise. 1-90. Let's see that, oh, burling, I think he's got a chance to make some noise. Max McIsaac is going to win it. Yeah. I'm not even swaying from that one.

Speaker 4: 2:25:49

Right, he's been like four times already.

Speaker 1: 2:25:54

Yeah, and I think it'll be a key bomb to the finals. Now I watched a couple of Sawyer's matches from this year and I don't know if it's the size change because he's gotten up a couple of times so that's probably the difficulty here, because 190 is big dudes, right, it's no joke it takes a minute and he's only Sawyer's, a junior Junior. I think it's going to be a Keenbaum, matthias final. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:26:36

For sure, I think, sawyer has a problem with Swenson in the quarter For sure. Yep, I agree there. I don't know why that says 81. He's only 39 and 8, Jackson Smith If he doesn't have 81 losses, that'd be illegal.

Speaker 2: 2:26:56

Whatever You're third and a half hour late, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1: 2:27:02

So this one's pretty cut and dried to me. Owen Burling, I think, has a chance to come through and make some noise. I think he could beat Gillen yeah. Yeah that would be a good one too. But that's going to be a good match. So let's see, we'll see. I just think Burling's going to end it once he sees Keenball. Yeah, I think Burling's going to end once he sees Keenball. But, long for Burling. Yeah, we saw that.

Speaker 4: 2:27:25

Belleville kid at Badger, he was a big boy. For 190, yeah. That'll be it. I mean, obviously he's got Max in the quarter, so that sucks for him. Yeah, so maybe he could come back and get fit.

Speaker 1: 2:27:41

Is that Trey? Yeah, really, with the I in the end, yeah, or did you spell it wrong? No, I didn't spell it wrong, okay, I think. So I started late. I'm not even prepared, okay. So D2190, that's good, but we have fluctuated from viewers quite a bit.

Speaker 4: 2:28:00

Oh well, it's 10 o'clock, that's right, and we're just hitting D1. Yeah, well, they can go and look at it later.

Speaker 1: 2:28:09

Yeah, they'll have to. They could too. It's kind of sad. Um, I'm going to kill Liesgang all day. Yeah. I don't know man, this is a D2215,. Folks, how do you beat them? How have guys?

Speaker 4: 2:28:28

They haven't beaten them, they haven't beaten us yet he's so. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:28:36

It's insane. He has to duck through doorways, people like it's not normal how tall he is. I want to know, like why the basketball coach couldn't retain that kid. Yeah, I don't know. I don't want him to. I want to know what the hell happened that he was like basketball nah, holy cow, but I'm wise getting all day. Blake give him a good shot. Basketball Nah, holy cow, but I'm live-gaming all day. Blake give him a good shot. I'd love to see it. I think Preston could be a kid that does come through still and make some noise here. Oh, Elliot.

Speaker 1: 2:29:16

Yeah, yeah, elliot, yeah, I see him coming through and making it to the semis. Yeah For sure.

Speaker 4: 2:29:28

And then, there's.

Speaker 1: 2:29:29

Cale.

Speaker 4: 2:29:31

Same with Vander Heiden. I could see him making the semis. I think this is Correct. I don't know, is this his first time down the state? Henry, yeah, he's had some loaded brackets, oh yeah. No he qualified in 2023. So second time, but still, Like last year, he didn't because his section was ridiculous.

Speaker 1: 2:29:51

If there's anyone that I think could beat the number one guy, it's him, yeah, other than Cale.

Speaker 4: 2:29:57

Huh Other than Cale Correct yeah Other than Kale. Huh, other than Kale.

Speaker 1: 2:30:00

Correct. Yeah, kale, for sure. Yeah, I'm just talking about your ranking. Yeah. I think Henry has a son of a bitch making it to the finals.

Speaker 4: 2:30:09

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, he's definitely tactical enough to deal with theory.

Speaker 1: 2:30:17

That'll be a close match. Yeah, that'll be like a 3-1 or 4-1 kind of thing. Correct, damn, that'll be a good one. I'll have to watch out.

Speaker 4: 2:30:28

So the rest of the guys here, Krieger, I talked about him, ross, chris, coming up from 90, trying to Really. Yeah, he was 90 most of the year. I don't know if he was making room for his brother or what, but yeah the brother was the 90 pounder after he left, so yeah d2215.

Speaker 1: 2:30:51

Uh, it'll be interesting. This will be a good one to watch folks. Yeah, um, there could be some seeds that, uh, that go higher than what they're seeded here. Yeah, so watch that, watch that for sure, okay. D2215 wheel 285.

Speaker 4: 2:31:10

Yeah, that sounds pretty easy. What?

Speaker 1: 2:31:14

What.

Speaker 2: 2:31:15

Nah.

Speaker 1: 2:31:19

All right, D2, 285. On top Hunter Vander Heiden, that's who I'm picking too. Yeah. Dalton Wolfe, don't let that record kill you.

Speaker 4: 2:31:31

Yeah, he's very dangerous for heavyweight. I think it was 8-7 with Nehemiah.

Speaker 1: 2:31:37

That's the one dude that I could see making it to the finals. Yeah, hold on before I speak to Brockman, he'd be. Brockman, I think so too. There's a Fenimore guy that I could definitely see telling giving people a middle finger at the end of the weekend. You know like yeah, eat it, this will be an alright one.

Speaker 2: 2:31:59

But this looks pretty cut and dried to me, I think the seeding is good, but Hunter's going to win it.

Speaker 1: 2:32:05

Dalton's my guy to kind of break through and do something Great. That's D2285,. Folks, drumroll please.

Speaker 4: 2:32:13

You don't have to do it. I was going to say I'm not very good at that.

Speaker 1: 2:32:19

You won.

Speaker 4: 2:32:21

Now everybody come back on, tell everybody we're on D1.

Speaker 1: 2:32:23

Now everybody come back on yeah, okay, everybody, we're on D1. Tell everybody we're on D1. I'm joking, tell them all 106. Look at my guy at number one. So the reason why I know a lot of these kids folks is because, number one, I had a dual team that I took Kids around the country. Not every single kid obviously that I know was on that team, but a lot of these kids folks because, number one, I had a dual team that I took kids around the country. Not not every single kid obviously that I know was on that team, but a lot of them were.

Speaker 1: 2:32:48

Cam was one of them that was on it like every single time. Right, he was one of the guys that was always. Anytime we were like, hey, we're heading to a tournament, his dad was just like, yeah, let's go. There are actually a couple of him and a couple of the other dads that always came along were the ones that kind of helped come up with the team Wisconsin Iron because they actually had done it. They had. When they went to that Iron Sherpens, iron, they went down as Wisconsin Iron. They just never like they weren't a dual team.

Speaker 1: 2:33:20

I was like, no way, that's too good of a name to not use. I'm like no way that's too good of a name to not use. That's awesome. So Cam was always on there. Cam's winning it. I don't care what you think, say, feel or want to say about anyone else. Nice to see Evan Leslie on wrestling again. Took a little bit of a break. Was playing baseball Wearing a shoulder brace, so obviously there's some injuries involved there. Hopefully that doesn't wearing a shoulder brace, so obviously there's some injuries involved there.

Speaker 4: 2:33:46

Um, but hopefully that doesn't that he's able to get through Cause this is. It's not his year, it's a junior year Sophomore, sophomore.

Speaker 1: 2:33:49

He was only out one year, dang, that's right. Yeah, he is that young, okay, um, good to see him in it.

Speaker 2: 2:33:57

Um, I mean Torres will give Rugg a good fight but, I, just don't see it.

Speaker 4: 2:34:02

I don't think Torres is making out of that quarter. You don't think so. I think it's pretty tough. Yeah, I mean, whoever wins between Falk and Schroeder probably beats whoever wins between Torres. I could see Torres losing to Weissman. I think he's the worst two-seater in this whole tournament.

Speaker 1: 2:34:20

Really Okay.

Speaker 4: 2:34:23

Not to rip on a kid, but I'm just saying he was a state qualifier and by the rules.

Speaker 1: 2:34:28

I've never seen Schrader wrestle.

Speaker 4: 2:34:32

He was really close with Rex and Rex Helms. No, rex, he hasn't wrestled this year. I don't know where he is. Rex Lancaster and the Hail To Me guy from Reedsburg. It might have been just Hail To Me. He's only wrestled Hail To Me.

Speaker 1: 2:34:52

Jackson Freeman.

Speaker 4: 2:34:54

He had a great weekend last weekend.

Speaker 1: 2:34:56

It would be good to see him kind of pop through.

Speaker 4: 2:34:58

He's already beat Anthony once this year. Oh really, yeah, oh okay.

Speaker 1: 2:35:01

Handling, I think once this year, oh really yeah, oh, okay, handily.

Speaker 4: 2:35:05

I think it was 96. Oh, okay, I think I'm not sure if that's the right score or not, but I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 1: 2:35:12

So this will be interesting. There's Rex right there. Yeah, this will be an interesting bracket, Cam's winning it, but the rest of these battles here are going to be pretty good. I mean, you're talking about some fairly closely ranked guys that are also, you know, seated fairly decently, except for the bottom here. It's kind of weird. But, yeah, this will be some decent battles, so this will be a good bracket. I'm going to say congratulations, Cam, for winning it. So there you go, State champ. And that was the other thing too. It was like that group of people were the people we went to high school state when they were in grade school. Right, yeah, you know, it's another to me. It's another lock. I'm going to say it the Shemin.

Speaker 4: 2:35:58

You think he's a lock?

Speaker 1: 2:35:59

Yep, okay, sure do I. Do you think he's a lock? Yep, sure do. I've given him the lock before, when he was younger, and I've lost that lock, but I'm giving it to him again.

Speaker 4: 2:36:08

I'm going with the 2C.

Speaker 1: 2:36:11

Okay, good, totally could happen, trader Curtin, is that good Not? Going to say it would never happen.

Speaker 4: 2:36:20

Trader has already beaten him this year. Okay, I'm just saying. If that is the final, then I think that Traynor would get it. I'm not saying that Deshaun even makes the final.

Speaker 1: 2:36:32

The only one that I see Jenkins having possible issues with is Gavin Walters. That would be a good match. Correct, he's going to give Jenkins some struggles. I'd definitely obviously pull for the Kakani guy.

Speaker 2: 2:36:45

Yeah. Let's not get twisted, oh no.

Speaker 1: 2:36:49

I know, you know. I'm just telling you, I'm telling these folks Don't get twisted. I'm still pushing for Jenkins, but that one's going to give him some fun right there. I think Jenkins makes it to the semis with Will. That's going to be a tough one, right. Is he texting you again? No, I can see.

Speaker 4: 2:37:26

I can see. Oh, did you see that name, that Knox? Did you see that ruling about Anthony Knox not being able to participate in state this weekend?

Speaker 1: 2:37:32

Was that because of his dad during that fight?

Speaker 4: 2:37:36

Yeah, but he jumped into it.

Speaker 1: 2:37:38

See, I couldn't tell everything from a distance.

Speaker 4: 2:37:40

The video I saw was like yeah, Anthony Knox jumped, jumped in Really. So can't be a four timer in New Jersey, which is crazy for four timer in New Jersey, Like right, yeah. One division, yeah, so all for fighting.

Speaker 1: 2:37:54

Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, man. Um, here's the thing. Here's the thing I see Jenkins taking. I see him in the third to fourth place match. I can see him there. I see him there with Zahn Beal. Again, zahn is tough, don't get me wrong. This is an pick. The podium champion picks are in my sweet ball. Four divisions pick the podium. Yeah, okay. Good job T and might sweep all four divisions Pick the podium yeah, okay.

Speaker 1: 2:38:27

Good job T, that's my thing. Zombiel very tough. I'm not counting him out of anything. I do see him and Will being in the finals, right, but I see I think that's all I see, right, yeah, yeah, cuz there's a lot of I mean there's definitely. I don't see Jenkins being trainer curtain. This only goes weird there the Shaman. So that's why I'm kind of getting Jenkins in the fourth place spot right because I think he winds up in the match. I think.

Speaker 4: 2:39:03

Jenkins lost to Curtin last time they went to state. When was he? He was a sophomore. I think it was 2-0. Was it yeah?

Speaker 1: 2:39:11

That's not that bad. That's where it's kind of like.

Speaker 4: 2:39:13

I see him, I can't remember if that was, I'm pretty sure that was.

Speaker 1: 2:39:17

I'm trying, trying to put Jenkins in the finals, but I can't see a path to the finals for him. The other issue is I've never seen him wrestle Beal. Yeah, I haven't either. No, so that's kind of where I get caught up in the rest of it, but I put Beal in the finals. Pretty sure Beal has beaten Rug before and Rug I'm not saying Rug's in this, but I'm just saying Rug is beaten, Rug and DeShaman kind of go back and forth while they used to. I was going to say they didn't.

Speaker 4: 2:39:46

last year, I think DeShaman won all five of them.

Speaker 2: 2:39:49

Really.

Speaker 4: 2:39:50

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:39:51

But it was close.

Speaker 4: 2:39:51

It was like two to one, three to one.

Speaker 1: 2:39:54

Maybe I'm thinking of everyone.

Speaker 4: 2:39:56

No, I mean, I don't think it ever went back and forth. I think it was Alvin.

Speaker 1: 2:40:00

I think, as far as I know, I don't know about younger years.

Speaker 4: 2:40:03

I don't have as much history as you do.

Speaker 1: 2:40:04

Could be what I have in my head at one time. That'll be interesting. I just think. I'm just trying to figure. I see the rest of these guys kind of battling for the fifth and sixth, seventh and eighth kind of thing, and I see him in the third and fourth matches, things like that.

Speaker 4: 2:40:24

So that's kind of where I'm at with that. Yeah, like I said, I was not going to pick on this one. I'm not going to pick with Kupon again, do you?

Speaker 1: 2:40:26

want D113?

Speaker 4: 2:40:30

I don't know. You can call me whatever you want.

Speaker 1: 2:40:32

D113. Now we're going to go to 120. And we all know who's there? Alright, so there we go. Who's there? Alright, so there we go.

Speaker 4: 2:40:47

That was another one, that Nathan Henderson. That's a horrible draw.

Speaker 1: 2:40:53

It will be Baspin DiPiazza in the finals. You can mark that down and put it in your pocket, because that's what's happening. I'm not calling his win on that one, because that one's going to be too close and Bass is on his way out, so I'm sure he wants to win as much as possible. Owen Becker also good. I don't know much about Parrish. Then there's the George Hamilton, the George Hamilton, the.

Speaker 4: 2:41:32

George Hamilton. He's had some pretty decent ones this year actually.

Speaker 1: 2:41:35

Yes, landon Freeman. Landon Freeman is my one to pick to come out of there. I don't think he beats Andy, though, again.

Speaker 4: 2:41:45

It's got worse every time he's wrestling 7-1 and 12-2.

Speaker 1: 2:41:50

Landon's, someone I see in the 34th place match.

Speaker 4: 2:41:55

Stop doing that to me. Well it's new.

Speaker 1: 2:41:59

I didn't look at it right. Yeah, I see 5th. I don't see him losing in the fifth or sixth place match. No, and I see it against Aiden Slam when I think he needs to. Yeah, mark my words. Weirders happen and they're like you're telling me he's going to lose to so-and-so and so-and-so. Maybe I think so.

Speaker 4: 2:42:26

The one thing that I was like who was it? The Wilmot Union kid Thiago Not making it?

Speaker 1: 2:42:34

No, yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:42:35

That's crazy.

Speaker 1: 2:42:36

And I think that was the you know the argument about people with the well sectionals this Guys, make it through that Right. Know the argument about people with the wall sectionals this yeah, guys, make it through that right. Sometimes it gets a little too deep for me to like sit there and contemplate because I didn't put that much thought into it in the first place. Yeah, what are you bitching about? All right, and just show up and wrestle? Yeah, there was a good way more complicated than this okay I can't forget Wathke, I guess.

Speaker 4: 2:43:00

Yeah, it was a good match with Andy at Blaski.

Speaker 2: 2:43:04

It was, but.

Speaker 1: 2:43:06

I just don't think he's going to beat Andy no. All right, except for that, we're going to close you guys out at 120. We are going to go over to 126. 26er Anybody who's been sticking with us, like Teague and all those guys, we appreciate it thank you very much.

Speaker 1: 2:43:24

Um, we like to do this every year, just like, uh, we are gonna do the um athlete of the year or wrestler of the year, male and female together. So we wanted to get this done and and show you guys some graphics versus rankings, versus um seeds, and kind of get an idea of where this stuff all kind of winds up. So it makes sense. So, um, this is going to get interesting.

Speaker 4: 2:43:50

I'm going with hay.

Speaker 1: 2:43:53

This is going to get interesting. This is a good bracket folks, Not necessarily in the order you think it should be as far as one and two. No. But it is what it is. Yeah, he's beat Carson, hasn't he?

Speaker 4: 2:44:12

I don't know that they wrestled. I think it was outside the season, though I could be wrong.

Speaker 1: 2:44:15

Newbert will correct me I heard you have a show you can beat him. I could be wrong folks, that's fine. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4: 2:44:23

Hayer versus Sl. I can be wrong folks, it's fine. Yeah, I mean Hayer versus Schlumpf will be, an awesome semi that will be Even Aspen. I mean Aspen.

Speaker 1: 2:44:30

I'm interested to see the Schlumpf R yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:44:33

Yeah, these are all. And then the bottom half of the top, the Sternweiss later first round yeah yeah, crazy, yeah Right. Wow, yeah, yeah, crazy, yeah Right, wow, yeah. Well, stern Weiss placed as a freshman, didn't place last year. Yeah. Oh. Look at that. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:44:53

Trips in the mix.

Speaker 4: 2:44:54

Yeah, I mean that's been making this first of many state finals trips probably.

Speaker 1: 2:44:59

Trips in the hay should be interesting by the keys.

Speaker 4: 2:45:01

Yeah, I think the senior versus freshman you know Interesting. Yeah, I mean I think Max gets it done.

Speaker 1: 2:45:09

Yeah, yeah, for sure I agree. There Carson's got a good shot. Yeah, I mean obviously, but I think just the how dynamic Maximus can be, like just sometimes, when he just lets it fly. He lets it fly.

Speaker 1: 2:45:25

He's unpredictable. That's the thing. Carson is very dynamic as well, but sometimes you can see some stuff coming, whereas Max just throws it out. Try it. He stays a little more controlled in some of the tighter matches, so maybe we won't see as much with Carson when he's wrestling him. That's going to be a good match. Good luck to Alois as well. Push it for you. You've got definitely a tough bracket, but you've beaten tough guys before. Good luck there. I'm definitely interested to see Alois versus Aiden, though. Make it happen. I'm definitely interested to see Aloysius versus Aiden, though. So make it happen. I just don't see us or Beattie Ari. I don't see that happening. Braden Borson man. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:46:13

That was another kid that was kind of a regular on the dual team.

Speaker 4: 2:46:15

I don't see him making the state dude. Yeah, he's only a sophomore.

Speaker 1: 2:46:18

I think, hell yeah, that's awesome. 34-11. Right on, congrats, braden.

Speaker 4: 2:46:29

The weird thing is like I don't even know if he makes the varsity lineup if it hadn't been for Barley getting hurt, because Barley was hurt the very first match of the year.

Speaker 1: 2:46:33

Really.

Speaker 4: 2:46:33

Yeah, and he was, I mean Barley's pretty good and like Franklin's pretty good from 38 to 26. Yeah, yeah, I don't even know if he would have made it if it hadn't been for that.

Speaker 1: 2:46:43

So like that's just making the best of your opportunities you know, I can actually show this guy in the bracket. I didn't have it up.

Speaker 4: 2:46:50

Oh, you didn't.

Speaker 1: 2:46:50

No, did I have it up? You've been letting me know if I had it up.

Speaker 4: 2:46:55

Yeah, that time.

Speaker 1: 2:46:55

But this is what it looks like. Folks, we to win it. But there's good matches in here. You've got Lincoln, flater and Sternweiss. I guess even a Fahey-Sharp match would be kind of cool to see that happen. But again, it's whatever. These guys are all going to throw down. All these records are pretty good from all these guys here. I was just saying Brandon Borson. It's cool to see him finally make it through, because I know I haven't heard much from him in the high school scene. So good for him. So that is D1-126. Moving out of here, it's 132. Getting there, folks.

Speaker 4: 2:47:38

Yeah, this was one guy only.

Speaker 2: 2:47:41

Yeah, yeah, oh.

Speaker 4: 2:47:42

Yeah, liam is one guy, only Is it? Yeah, oh yeah, liam Neitzel.

Speaker 1: 2:47:48

Yeah it's.

Speaker 4: 2:47:48

Liam Neitzel. He's been on terror this year. He's got it.

Speaker 1: 2:47:54

I would like to see Zelensky in the semifinals with a Mike and Beckett. Yeah. I think that's going to happen.

Speaker 4: 2:48:03

Who's the three there? Okay, I see that. Oh yeah, that would be a good match though.

Speaker 1: 2:48:11

Yes, lisa Zielinski would be a good match to top it off with the Zielinski versus. Yeah Back at match. Yeah, maybe I see him getting the third, fourth place match, maybe, yeah we saw him at manly duels yep, otherwise I could see him doing fifth or sixth. I don't think he beats his seed.

Speaker 1: 2:48:42

Yeah, I mean fourth is probably but your rankings you know, right there with the seed yeah, for sure this will play out the way you see it, I think for the most part I just don't see, like I said, body possibly third, fourth, but most likely sixth yeah, I think the Zielinski don't see. Like I said, vali, possibly third, fourth, but most likely sixth. Yeah, beckett, I think. The Zielinski, I think is more of a third, fourth possibility, but I want to see him make it to the semis here for sure.

Speaker 4: 2:49:15

So you think Beckett making it back to the finals, he made it to the finals, correct?

Speaker 1: 2:49:20

Yeah, I think so, yeah, I think so too, pretty sure.

Speaker 4: 2:49:23

No, not sure.

Speaker 2: 2:49:24

No oh.

Speaker 4: 2:49:28

Let me see he got second 23.

Speaker 2: 2:49:33

Or 23, sorry, not 03.

Speaker 4: 2:49:35

He a little bit aged out 23.

Speaker 1: 2:49:39

But that would be nice. Zielinski back at semifinal. Yeah. See that I think Beckett will make it, but I think Zelinsky will get more than first round. Okay, so D1 132. That's Don Leonides. That's who we know is going to win it, so we don't even need to try and pander there.

Speaker 4: 2:50:01

No, he's been. South Dakota State's got a good Killing it.

Speaker 1: 2:50:09

Him and Herm, yeah, going there together, alright, the great George Jones.

Speaker 4: 2:50:15

Not that nobody knew who Neitzel was. I'm not saying that at all yeah, yeah. I think he could paint out to be a lot better in his recruiting ranking.

Speaker 1: 2:50:24

So this will be interesting too. Auburn's lineup. I already picked that on Teague Show. Auburn's lineup.

Speaker 4: 2:50:33

He's already lost to the Bobs.

Speaker 2: 2:50:35

Don't care. Don't care.

Speaker 4: 2:50:39

We get to see Eddie and Carter again. That was pretty one-sided at sectional. That would be a good match. We get to see Eddie and Carter.

Speaker 2: 2:50:43

again, that was pretty one-sided at sectional Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4: 2:50:44

That would be a good match. Yeah, maybe we can see some adjustments made by.

Speaker 1: 2:50:49

Edwin Yep. For sure, I love Eddie. Yeah. Good family. George Jones, George Jones. Yeah, I see you making it to the semis. George Jones, George Jones. Yeah, I see you making it to the semis. I don't see you beating Bob no you could? Yeah, I mean him, and.

Speaker 4: 2:51:12

Neuville would probably be a good one, though. Who Huh? George Jones, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, in that quarter Yep. And Jaden Yock like he, just like he came out of nowhere Like he was 150 for most of the year, got hurt at Cheesehead and then I thought he was done for the year and like he was 150?. Yeah, he was 150 at Cheesehead Wow.

Speaker 1: 2:51:36

I didn't pay attention to that, yeah well, he couldn't 44,.

Speaker 4: 2:51:38

You know he's got a pretty decent guy there. So Colin 138. He's 50 at Chiefs. That's pretty respectable. I think he got like 10.

Speaker 1: 2:51:53

He just decided to go away.

Speaker 4: 2:51:56

Like I said, I thought he was hurt and then all of a sudden I see him at a tournament at 38. I was like whoa Carter Freeman.

Speaker 1: 2:52:00

Sr yeah, now, and all of a sudden, I see him at a tournament at 38. I was like whoa Carter Freeman Sr. Yeah, no, I don't see Eddie Luzanone Again. I don't think so, I don't think so, I don't think so, I don't remember, did he get put to his back?

Speaker 4: 2:52:18

Was it a seven-point play? I?

Speaker 1: 2:52:21

think you could be right on that.

Speaker 4: 2:52:22

I think you could be right, I was at least six.

Speaker 1: 2:52:24

I'm pretty sure I mean as much as Carter's senior year. Right, it's his senior year too. Well, that'll be a battle.

Speaker 4: 2:52:31

He only made it.

Speaker 1: 2:52:31

Again, another kid that's a year older than Liam.

Speaker 4: 2:52:36

He only made it the one time. That's crazy. This is the second time it's made it as good as he's been.

Speaker 1: 2:52:42

That's crazy. Well, maybe he can pull off a Freeman match.

Speaker 2: 2:52:48

I think he can.

Speaker 4: 2:52:50

I think it's Auburn though.

Speaker 1: 2:52:52

Yeah, Auburn's won it.

Speaker 4: 2:52:54

That's Auburn, all the way, I think I'm going to go with Bob Zinn.

Speaker 1: 2:52:58

You can go right ahead. Just because his brother's at Madison doesn't mean nothing.

Speaker 4: 2:53:04

That's really what I'm thinking. Big Badgers fan.

Speaker 1: 2:53:06

A lot of people are Gaining traction every week. Alright, so that's D1-138,. Kate Auburn, you can put that in the bank. Whatever Zach's pick is. Didn't even remember what it was anymore. You didn't pick Auburn, that's right. Alright, d1-138, out of here we are to 157.

Speaker 4: 2:53:30

See, that's another one that really Bobsian shouldn't be the two seed, unless he's just beat everybody Because he'd have to have wins over a lot of people. Maybe he does. Let me look.

Speaker 1: 2:53:44

Those kidding folks. It's not 157, to have wins over a lot of people? Maybe he does. Let me look, I was kidding folks. It's not 157. It's 144. Are you looking something up?

Speaker 4: 2:53:53

I'm just looking at Bob Zian's wins real fast. Maybe George Jones, maybe Edwin Schroeder, maybe Albert, but that would only be three. I mean, I guess those guys have wins over people that he would get points for too, but it's just like he doesn't have any other results because he wasn't here. He went for varsity because he was at Poway, so like he had, like, his career record is 75 and 15, you know.

Speaker 4: 2:54:20

So it's like yeah, yeah right, and 37 of those were this year, so he was 38-13 coming in this year. It's crazy, I guess when you're on Poway it's a pretty decent team. It's not bad. Right.

Speaker 1: 2:54:38

Shrestha North, I like. I don't like his seed though, but I can see why. Blake Lee, you got Kellen Oren Chablinski. That's crazy that he's not even ranked who. Jablonski Jablonski.

Speaker 4: 2:55:07

I say Jablonski.

Speaker 1: 2:55:09

I don't know why I say Jablonski. I think he's better than me yes, dumbass ranker probably game-ish. I've heard a bunch about him. I haven't been able to see him wrestle. Obviously his record speech here itself.

Speaker 4: 2:55:26

So maybe that's the final. He wrestled Winans. I believe it might have been three years ago when he was a freshman, though. I'm not going to retain that Nope.

Speaker 1: 2:55:36

I don't remember that at all. How did it turn out?

Speaker 4: 2:55:39

We put it on him pretty bad. I think it was a junior versus a freshman, was it? Yeah, obviously he's put on some weight since then, a little.

Speaker 1: 2:55:49

He was like 132.

Speaker 4: 2:55:50

I think we were at 120 that year 120?

Speaker 1: 2:55:54

Oh my God, I remember he did do a bunch of cutting that year. Yeah, yeah but he's, I mean. Deacon Trotzer Shepard, this is going to be a good one. Yeah, this will definitely be a good one. I think a lot of the guys that are seated much higher like not number one or two, but the other higher had their work cut out for them, but I think this is actually seated right.

Speaker 4: 2:56:20

Yeah, I mean it's pretty accurate when, like it was funny because, like I saw Blakely's weight at Pulaski, he was 141.5 or something you know. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:56:32

And so I was like oh, he's going down, so I just put him down at 38. And I figured that's where he's going, I mean he's already at 41, you know, and then I put him at 38 and he was like ranked like nine. I was like oh man, I don't know if, no, if you'd want to do that, and then the next week I saw him at 44, and then I saw him at 44 for region. So that's probably good. Yeah, yeah, let's just follow Kellen and try and get as high as you can.

Speaker 4: 2:56:55

Right, Right Well and that's in the finals, but it's again. Yeah, Kamish and Lauer will be a good one, yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:57:09

Shepard Trotzer will be good. Yeah, that'll be a good one. No, when it gets north, that'll be. Yeah, that'll definitely be either a shock or no shocker. You're right, you know kind of thing so cool, all right, shocker Cool. That is D1144, everybody Now to 150. This is a bracket that maybe you're not guessing.

Speaker 2: 2:57:34

No, I'll tell you about results and stuff.

Speaker 4: 2:57:41

Skiba's lost twice. I can tell you that what no way all right, so it's skeeba, I know okay, I'm just going back to the original podcast yeah, the first one. Yeah, the first one. We were in. You recall that? See, I do.

Speaker 1: 2:58:01

There you go, because that shit matters in my head of holding things. So yeah, I mean Peyton, I see this a win. I see Peyton making it out of here. You know it got close.

Speaker 4: 2:58:28

it was close 4-1 it was closer, not the butt kick when we took the left two times no, wasn't he in on shots.

Speaker 1: 2:58:42

More on that one.

Speaker 4: 2:58:44

Yeah, peyton was. He had his leg up three or four times, couldn't finish. Sorry, noel.

Speaker 1: 2:58:50

I'm pulling for Peyton on this one. Bro, it's just getting too close. I gotta have faith in him. He's gonna punch me when he sees me. His dad will too. I'm calling a Lee McDowell final. I just yeah, Eli's good right, Don't get me wrong about that. Who are his losses to?

Speaker 4: 2:59:20

Ben McDowell last week.

Speaker 1: 2:59:22

Did he yeah, did he yeah. Did you see the video? Was I freaking out? I did not see it.

Speaker 2: 2:59:28

Well, that matters in this one yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:59:31

I know, I mean, revedu has that headlock, you know.

Speaker 2: 2:59:34

I know.

Speaker 4: 2:59:35

He's dangerous, though, that kind of matters here. He lost to Scholes twice Four to five and four to six.

Speaker 1: 2:59:45

Yeah, Maybe we see a Lee Rabideau final Huh.

Speaker 4: 2:59:51

That'd be pretty crazy.

Speaker 1: 2:59:55

Okay, Nolan, you're not out of it. I'm just saying you kept it kind of close in this last one with Peyton, so I'm pulling Peyton.

Speaker 4: 3:00:03

You gave him some hope.

Speaker 1: 3:00:04

Just because yeah.

Speaker 4: 3:00:07

He had him buried the first two matches Like if you would have told me that that was everything.

Speaker 1: 3:00:10

Right, like man, you're making it too. Like, yeah, I mean the watch doesn't happen, but Right.

Speaker 4: 3:00:20

I mean you've got to make the pick right, Lee Rabideau?

Speaker 1: 3:00:23

That I mean I watch it doesn't happen. But Right, I mean you've got to make the pick. Right, Lee Rabideau? That's in the finals. And then I say that Nolan takes third. I'd be very happy with that, Tim McDowell. Him and McDowell will battle it out in third and fourth and then Gage Gross will be in. Fifth and sixth We'll have Cam Finch. Nice, nice, that's it. That's all I got as far as I can go that's as deep a dive as I can go on that one, it's all.

Speaker 1: 3:00:51

Otherwise the rest of these guys are going to be great. But yeah, that's a good bracket. Again I'm picking Lee. He's a senior here man, he's getting looks at colleges and stuff like that Again. I'm picking. Lee, it's his senior year man. He's getting looks at colleges and stuff like that. So it's like put it to bed man, Show them what it's all about. That's 150. I think that's going to be a great bracket as well. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:01:16

We'll see how it plays out. 165, that's hurt him all day. Oh, 157. I'm not going to say Declan's got this locked in.

Speaker 2: 3:01:30

Obviously he's 48.

Speaker 1: 3:01:32

No, I'm not stupid, but I've seen crazier shit happen with that kid.

Speaker 4: 3:01:37

Yeah, I think both of Dumberg's losses are to.

Speaker 1: 3:01:40

Declan.

Speaker 2: 3:01:41

Is it?

Speaker 1: 3:01:42

Yeah, Were they? Techs Declan's not much of a pinner. He does pin right. I'm going to check real fast.

Speaker 4: 3:01:52

No, it's 3-2 and 7-1.

Speaker 1: 3:01:58

See, not a lot Hasn't beaten him yet.

Speaker 4: 3:02:02

Dumber also teched Cage Westman Hasn't beaten him yet. Dumber also attacked Cage Westman.

Speaker 1: 3:02:06

Really, man, my boy, we got Cale Katie down here, devin Johnson making it through.

Speaker 2: 3:02:15

See that.

Speaker 1: 3:02:15

That was crazy. Good job to him, you know, you know, I Did Doomer. Doomer never wrestled Katie huh, no, never At all. No, well, that's right. Katie was up at 165 For me, dropped onto this.

Speaker 4: 3:02:36

Yeah, then he missed some of the season too. So, oh, he did yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:02:40

Oh man, injury, I think so, in the knee or something, maybe it, maybe it was coming down and he just didn't want to, of the season too.

Speaker 4: 3:02:43

Oh, he did, yeah, oh man Injury, I think so, in the knee or something. Maybe it was coming down and he just didn't want to weigh in. You know, maybe Could be Keeping weight.

Speaker 1: 3:02:50

Not going to say no to Declan winning it, but I'm not going to say it's a lock Right, not with some of these guys in here.

Speaker 4: 3:02:57

I'm going with. Katie.

Speaker 1: 3:03:00

Yeah. Yeah. I think if Katie does his homework he can beat Declan. Yeah For sure. Declan likes to work from not shooting Right. He likes to work in crackdown. He likes to make you make mistakes. Declan is not an offensive wrestler, Right.

Speaker 1: 3:03:19

Counteroffensive right Like that way. I've seen him shoot Don't get me wrong like he shoots her leg, but that's not his forte, it's not a second. Yeah, just hasn't done it forever. He hasn't done it since he was a kid. So, um, if Katie can figure out a way around, around crackdowns and be quick about takedowns, you gotta be quick with them, right. Once Declan does catch you off guard like you haven't caught him, forget about it.

Speaker 4: 3:03:44

He'll figure out a way around it. That's why it was good, when he was a freshman, getting him up in the air and not letting him. That was.

Speaker 1: 3:03:51

Barnett too. Barnett was another guy that didn't waste a lot of time shooting. He let everybody else shoot, just taking a page from him. Except he's not a Horton film out. Cole got a solid chance, I would say for third, no fifth. It's hard with some of these top guys If they do get knocked off. I just see him having a hard time with a bunch of these guys.

Speaker 4: 3:04:16

You're saying Bartlein, not Bartlein yes, not Doomer.

Speaker 1: 3:04:23

It's hard to say with some of these guys that can make it through. Yeah, devin Johnson, I'd love to see him make his seed, if not higher, not seed, but his rank, if not higher. Make the podium dude Be that freshman that makes the podium See what happens. But this will get interesting. This will get more interesting towards the second and third rounds. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 3:04:48

That's a tough first round, but I could see him definitely going through the backside For who? For Devin? Oh yeah, for sure. I'm not saying he can't win, I'm just saying it's not ideal, but he definitely got shot.

Speaker 1: 3:05:02

Yep For sure, yep, yep For sure. Um, yeah, so that's kind of where I'm at with that.

Speaker 4: 3:05:07

That was the one that when you were watching the, did you watch the seed reveal? And on that, uh, joe Miller was talking about Zanton being undefeated, coming to state twice and being the fifth seed both times. He's just like what's he got to do to?

Speaker 1: 3:05:25

get in the top four Maybe not be in the bracket full of studs. That's crazy.

Speaker 4: 3:05:29

Both years he's been undefeated coming into the state and not even top four seed. What's he got to do? Get a tougher schedule, that's true. Maybe I could learn how to spell the school's name then. We'll cut that out.

Speaker 1: 3:05:47

We're not going to show you that. All right. So that's D1-157. Now we're over, almost done, folks. We're on three hours. That's nice, not too shabby Sitting at fucking 10 o'clock All right. So too shabby Sitting at fucking 10 o'clock Alright. So this one's a lock. These guys just aren't beating him. It's not that bad, degroot. I would like to see him be a little more offensive with him. I mean the shots. He did take some shots on him, right, it seemed like they were a little far out. I mean, don't get me wrong, you don't want the head in the hole, you know. So I get it. But it's a tough draw for Colin on that one. Obviously, he'll get the win on the first one.

Speaker 4: 3:06:40

This was another one that baffled me, like I know we weren't a sectional champ, right, mm-hmm. But how does Tucker Athey, who has no, I mean he lost to a guy we beat at Pulaski?

Speaker 1: 3:06:52

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 3:06:53

Like how does he get the seven seed and we get the eight?

Speaker 1: 3:06:56

That's a good question.

Speaker 4: 3:06:59

Yeah, I mean we beat a kid that he beat. He was a sectional champion. That's the only thing he's got on us. He's got a little bit better record. Barely, that's crazy. Yeah, probably be like .05 better.

Speaker 2: 3:07:15

Huh.

Speaker 4: 3:07:16

Yeah, this is nuts, I don't get that one, and we were state qualifier last year, so you think we are. I mean not that I'm saying I want Sullivan over.

Speaker 1: 3:07:26

Herm, but maybe we've seen both those guys.

Speaker 4: 3:07:28

That's like five of his losses are Sullivan and.

Speaker 1: 3:07:32

Herm, that'll probably most likely be our final one will be Sullivan. Oh yeah, yeah, I could see Kder take a third.

Speaker 4: 3:07:46

I thought we'd see Sullivan come down to 57. I thought it was going to happen, but it obviously didn't.

Speaker 1: 3:07:53

Some can't be swayed, I guess.

Speaker 4: 3:07:55

No, I'm not trying to sway him. Well.

Speaker 1: 3:07:56

Liam ran to 175, according to certain people.

Speaker 4: 3:08:00

Yeah, I don't know, liam, he doesn't run anywhere.

Speaker 1: 3:08:05

At all Like folks. He doesn't run. Can you tell Halfway through the third period? Have you watched at all? He's getting better. He's getting better. I know he's been doing some stuff. Every time I see it, I'm like dude. Every time I see it, I'm like dude. But Jacob's got this lockup Ramos. The seating in here is weird in a couple spots, but the rest of them kind of match up, so this will be a good one.

Speaker 1: 3:08:42

I think this one's pretty self-explanatory, though I think even some of the you know, like the number 14 stuff, those guys, I doubt they'll make it all the way Right. I think Colin will, as long as he keeps his mind through it all the way through Right, like, not just like. Oh my God, because it's going to be tough. I mean you have Jacob Hearn. Yeah, your second match, right. You've already wrestled?

Speaker 1: 3:09:03

Yeah, you've wrestled. How many times now? Yeah, so that's, and I understand where people do complain about that, especially with the conference tournament. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:09:11

Why, yeah, why, are we doing this? Give us a break, like something in between Right, something else. So this split, so this is pretty self-explanatory, like I said. But um, d1, 165, there we go, you go over to 175. So there's this, liam's number one, right? And then you got the three, the two, and then, oh, he's number five, yeah he lost to. Schneider, correct, and that's all. So you have all these, those three guys over on this side that will have to battle it out.

Speaker 2: 3:10:06

Yeah, and those.

Speaker 1: 3:10:07

Honestly, those are going to be the toughest guys on this side, right? I mean, Eli beat Katie or not, katie beat Denny, yeah, which?

Speaker 4: 3:10:15

8-6, right.

Speaker 1: 3:10:17

No disrespect to Leonard. I still kind of like ow, what's going on? Right, like to Leonard, I still kind of like, ow, what's going on. It's not that I don't think Leonard could beat someone of that caliber. I just didn't expect him to beat Denny and he took him down twice. He did it the right way, he grounded out, especially on top. So this is pretty much going to go kind of the way of if Eli can beat Denny again, it's doable, right, right.

Speaker 4: 3:10:55

I mean, I think that Denny-Guerrero match will be interesting.

Speaker 1: 3:10:58

That one's going to be the most interesting, I think, of them all. Yeah, because Guerrero's just so lanky now Lanky, and he's. I mean I can't imagine he's gotten worse, right.

Speaker 4: 3:11:06

More than a year we saw him at Super 32. He was doing pretty well, right.

Speaker 1: 3:11:09

Right, Exactly so everybody wonders why Leonard get the two seed. He's undefeated. Well, Denny lost to Leonard. Did Guero lose to? You said he lost to Leonard at. Was that by State?

Speaker 4: 3:11:33

No, he lost to Schneider. I don't know if he's lost to Let me make sure Where's other losses. His other loss was probably at Tennessee. Yeah, he lost the number one guy in Kentucky, oh okay, but at the Tennessee tournament, okay gotcha.

Speaker 2: 3:11:56

So I mean where?

Speaker 4: 3:11:57

am I yeah, 7-5 with Schneider.

Speaker 2: 3:12:01

Okay.

Speaker 1: 3:12:02

Okay, liam's going to win. Sorry, I'm just going to be biased here. I mean, he's pretty gung-ho and he's pretty fired up about people saying that he runs and all this other stuff, so he feels like he's got some proof. Some people don't like it. It's tough shit.

Speaker 4: 3:12:22

We haven't A song with a chip on his shoulder last year. It was pretty cool to see.

Speaker 1: 3:12:27

Right, there's been a lot of speculation about Sorry you're right, you're like he gets pumped up on that side and that's just how he is. But he also does like to go and help the kids. Oh yeah, he likes to help the middle schools, he likes to do all that stuff. So people don't see that side of him, which is fine. We don't need to post a lot of stuff out, and I have posted losses of his and wins of his, and now it's at the point where I don't feel like posting shit.

Speaker 1: 3:13:01

It's not good sometimes for their mental ability when they see that shit, but we can always say that they struggle right and there's matches he struggled with. There's matches that even when he won, he struggled with, and I know that he gets upset when he either wins by so much or thought he could have gotten another takedown, things like that, but people take it as like an attitude on the mat and I chance that he down and things like that, but people take it as an attitude on the mat. My chance at 10 is getting angry because he's not getting what he wanted. He's trying to figure something out, caleb. I think Caleb's going to have a good career coming to college because he's going to be able to get his hands on some guys that are going to be able to bring him to that next level, hopefully in Madison, I think, though I just don't know if he pulls off another win against Leonard. The thing that confuses me too, is because I get stuck on this visual thing when you see someone, when you see a guy like.

Speaker 2: 3:13:59

Caleb, he's put together pretty well right, I did the same thing when I was in high school I'd see someone that was more built than I was Shit.

Speaker 1: 3:14:07

Here we go. I'm getting spanked again. Don't tell me about it I'll affect you.

Speaker 1: 3:14:13

When you see a guy like Caleb, you think he's going to be so much more physical and harder to take down. Denny also wrestlesles a higher pace now. So to see that bi-state loss is like holy crap. So kudos to Leonard for putting it on him. I was a little surprised when I first saw it, but Brady Stammer is always a guy that likes to keep things close with most guys, so it'll be interesting to see how he. It's kind of funny.

Speaker 4: 3:14:40

Three of those guys were three of the four that Liam wrestled last year Ted Statham.

Speaker 2: 3:14:45

Yeah, Brady.

Speaker 4: 3:14:46

Isaiah and Caleb all in the same quarter.

Speaker 1: 3:14:51

Yeah, and now he's all on the opposite side.

Speaker 4: 3:14:54

Everybody he wrestled last year is all on the opposite side.

Speaker 1: 3:14:59

Yeah, that's it, but yeah. Elijah Terrell. He's always one that's put it on guys. He's gotten a lot better over the year too, but it's hard to pick against leaners. So yeah, I think the seeds play out. It's just odd having these guys on the side. All of them on that side, but I do think the seeds kind of play out that way just because that side's so difficult.

Speaker 2: 3:15:23

These guys aren't easy to beat.

Speaker 1: 3:15:25

They're not. Just because someone wins over them doesn't mean that they're easy. Leonard's proven that and Ryland's proven that too. That's another thing too. Liam's going to wind up wrestling him Wrestling this time. Man, let it fly, let it rip. Don't hold back. Don't do any of that. Let it fly, let it rip. Don't hold back. Don't do any of that, let it rip. All these guys should be doing that, not just Ryland, but all of them should be doing that If you have your strategies for the moment or whatever in some of the early matches to make it a little further, but man, let it rip. That's D1-175. Moving on to 190. That's the other one that saddens me. Oh man, bob, pull for guy. If there's anyone I've got to pull for on 190, I'm pulling for guy. Great kid Talked to him for a quick second at Cheesehead. It was good to see him get a Cheesehead win too.

Speaker 4: 3:16:23

Yeah, the guy that beat in the finals was pretty good. I think he just won a state in Illinois. Oh really, yeah, that Nico from no, that's the one else that's from southeast pole.

Speaker 1: 3:16:41

I think him and Tretz will be a good semi-final. Tritts makes it that far. Dude, what the heck? I'm not even talking about the lead match. I'm talking about just the kind of, in general, I was expecting. He seems a little passive, you know what I'm saying. Like the offense. He's a tough kid, don't get me wrong, but he just seems a little passive. Doesn't seem like he's a tough kid, don't get me wrong, but he just seems a little passive. Doesn't seem like he's wrestling to how it sounds like he should be right yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:17:09

So it would be nice to see him kind of step up a little bit and maybe give Guy a run for his money, do you? See any weird seeds here.

Speaker 4: 3:17:20

Nothing too bad, really Bad. I mean that Oak Creek kid was pretty decent when Brady wrestled him.

Speaker 1: 3:17:27

Yes, yeah.

Speaker 4: 3:17:30

He was beating Brady at that way.

Speaker 1: 3:17:32

To come back from that one that could be an interesting quarterfinal.

Speaker 4: 3:17:37

Yeah, all his losses are to Guy, I'm pretty sure Are they. Yes, oh yeah, yeah, are they? Yes, yeah, yeah, if that's how you say it, that's Joe Berger. Yeah, sorry yeah. Like you said it just kind of stings a little bit to look at this bracket. But Nico, I mean Nico Russell was smart.

Speaker 1: 3:18:03

Oh yeah, for sure he does. But Nico, I mean Nico, wrestled smart. Yeah, oh yeah, for sure, for sure. Like that was the thing with him too, like watching him wrestle. It seemed like he had.

Speaker 4: 3:18:14

He had a game plan.

Speaker 1: 3:18:14

Well, yeah, I guess. Yeah, he had a game plan too, because once he got to that third period he was kind of a little pep in this stuff, for sure, for sure yeah, I mean you can definitely see it and he did it, and I want to say he did it in the match before too. Yeah, uh, no, not the match for the match after.

Speaker 4: 3:18:29

Yeah, together, yeah, with with the tricks yep yep, yep and it was kind of like you know how like we were. I was just watching the match, obviously, because we wanted to see if we got a wrestle back and you know, yep, he lost and he made it to state and his coaches are over there cheering him on and he just was like pissed you know he was like I don't care. You know I made it to state I wanted to win. You know I was like he's only a sophomore, right I?

Speaker 1: 3:18:55

think so yeah.

Speaker 4: 3:18:57

It's just a cool mentality to see, kind of you know cool mentality to see, kind of you know For sure, yeah, anybody else making a state is a big deal. And he was just like you know. Yeah, you're kind of not. I was like I wanted you to win too.

Speaker 2: 3:19:09

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:19:14

Alright, so we're at a 215. There's a lock right there at number one. You're not taking that one away from him, so that'll be Gary Kaczynski winning it, and Nelson's had a good run. Another kid I've been able to see kind of grow through the years that was a, did some aviator stuff when we would go to Oshkosh West. He was always in there, so it's good to see him get through. This is going to be a tough bracket for most of these guys.

Speaker 4: 3:19:45

Yeah, they are so equal. Everybody in this bracket, except for the first Correct. Like everybody else, I could see Almost anybody winning any match. Yep, there could be some upsets here guys Like Austin McHugh could pull off and make it as a semi. He's hard to wrestle, you know. He just stays in good position.

Speaker 2: 3:20:07

Yep.

Speaker 4: 3:20:08

Doesn't really do much to get himself out of position, though.

Speaker 2: 3:20:10

Right.

Speaker 4: 3:20:11

So it's just like you know, but that works. That works at this weight.

Speaker 1: 3:20:15

Makes him grow, yeah, another opportunity there.

Speaker 4: 3:20:18

He just beat, oh Dietrich. Yeah, he beat the guy from.

Speaker 2: 3:20:21

Arrowhead Dreider.

Speaker 4: 3:20:22

Yeah, dreider, really. Yeah, he beat him at sectionals. That's why Dreider's not there.

Speaker 1: 3:20:26

Damn.

Speaker 4: 3:20:27

Yeah, I guess I didn't even pay attention to that yeah, wow, okay, yeah, so that was a surprising.

Speaker 1: 3:20:35

Helminski, it's another one Eppie. I mean, this is going really interesting, other than these top guys, right.

Speaker 2: 3:20:41

Yeah, other than the 15 and 16 seeds.

Speaker 4: 3:20:44

Like everybody else is like Yep, wow, why not me? Yeah, right.

Speaker 1: 3:20:50

So there you go. I definitely want to watch 215. I think Gary Kaczynski is going to win it. Nelson, it would be nice to see kind of make it a little, but he's got this whole side stuff. Yeah, you got an octagon. Yeah. Huh, well, there you go, alright. 215. One left.

Speaker 4: 3:21:10

Oh, one left Three and a half hours later. If anybody listened to this whole thing, you can just let me know, yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:21:22

Teague's probably already making a comment.

Speaker 4: 3:21:24

Me. I don't think you can have my gear though.

Speaker 1: 3:21:28

Yeah, that's all my. You can't even say your name on here, that's.

Speaker 4: 3:21:35

It's fine, I get it.

Speaker 1: 3:21:37

I do too, but it's Make someone do that.

Speaker 4: 3:21:42

Redacted name. That's so funny.

Speaker 1: 3:21:47

Nehemiah 42-5 is the one seed Makai Rogers. He's lost to Makai before, hasn't he?

Speaker 4: 3:21:56

No, he beat him in the only match they've had.

Speaker 1: 3:21:59

Oh, I thought he had a loss to him.

Speaker 4: 3:22:01

No, it's the only time he's ever wrestled him was at and he beat him.

Speaker 1: 3:22:05

Yeah, it was two years ago, so it was 29 and Nehemiah.

Speaker 4: 3:22:08

Well, no, not this year. I'm not saying this year, I'm saying, like ABM, it was two years ago, yeah, so after Makai had just placed his freshman year at 195.

Speaker 1: 3:22:19

That's going to be a tough match for him. I think that'll be the final, but that's going to be a tough match. Yeah. I don't doubt Nehemiah. It's going to be a tough match, so that'll be a good one to watch.

Speaker 4: 3:22:31

This is a baffling bracket to me. What's?

Speaker 1: 3:22:35

going on here, what? Yeah, this is a seeding issue.

Speaker 4: 3:22:43

The way it was explained to me was the 3, 4, and 5 were all tied in points, so the sectional champ came into play. Since Tanner wasn't a sectional champ, he went to the 5. And then, since the other two were tied, with both being sectional champs they went to record I think what was the time? Record 43 and five.

Speaker 1: 3:23:09

I wouldn't record be up on top.

Speaker 4: 3:23:12

No, but Medley has a better record, so that doesn't make sense to me either.

Speaker 2: 3:23:16

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 3:23:19

By one win.

Speaker 1: 3:23:22

I guess I didn't think it would happen here, folks, because this shit's just everywhere on this one.

Speaker 4: 3:23:26

Yeah, I mean technically, gormanson's lost to two guys in this quarter too, because he's lost the award and he's lost the medley.

Speaker 1: 3:23:35

So MGM, I'll never forget that, now that I learned where it was. But yeah, back to. That's crazy, this is just very odd yeah. Very, very odd Number. Number one is a two, pardon my French. Oh then you're a hermit. Henry Lee Bauer. Almost that heavyweight yeah that'd be. From Parkson.

Speaker 4: 3:24:06

I'm not sure. If he does, then that makes everybody ineligible.

Speaker 1: 3:24:11

I want my gray shirt. I'm pulling for Nehemiah. This is a weird bracket. This is just weird. This is definitely my new screw-up. This is seating screw-up. Yeah, everything and it's heavyweight. Yeah, I always kind of equate it to watch on the mats to see who's more in shape. Really, you know what?

Speaker 4: 3:24:43

I'm saying Did you see T?

Speaker 1: 3:24:44

No, I'll censor the show. Duck tape. Put duck tape over the logo.

Speaker 4: 3:24:55

Thank you, T, for staying around See.

Speaker 1: 3:24:57

He's getting a sweatshirt? Yeah, and he'll redact the name.

Speaker 4: 3:25:00

He'll blur it out. Just make sure you don't move too fast, so it doesn't get in there.

Speaker 1: 3:25:03

How come when I click? On their names, it doesn't take me to their profile.

Speaker 4: 3:25:07

Because it's not linked.

Speaker 1: 3:25:08

I mean, I can link it next time next year, if you want to Ooh, let's get real fancy folks and we can look at all the dirt. Yeah, I could do that and have only teak comment.

Speaker 4: 3:25:17

Or I could just link it to my website, and it'd be just as good.

Speaker 1: 3:25:21

Yeah, yeah, there you go, just keep going back and forth from your website to back and forth, back and forth. Well, 285, folks, that has been four divisions. Yeah, girls D3, d2, d1.

Speaker 4: 3:25:37

I think we skipped on the girls last year, so I'm glad we got that in there this year.

Speaker 1: 3:25:40

Yeah, we did, we did. I mean honestly I didn't know, did you have rankings fully going?

Speaker 4: 3:25:49

Yeah, we just had Steve and Gunrich, so it was kind of like oh yeah, it was kind of a little long for them. They wouldn't have stayed around for this.

Speaker 1: 3:26:00

Oh, absolutely not, Absolutely not, honestly I don't know, because I think someone was like, oh, you should try having this coach on or whatever, but it's like I don't know if I want to have a coach on for this because I want to talk about the whole thing, someone who's not burdened by wrestling, because they're already doing wrestling, but that's the other thing. With you, though, it's like you're fucking doing it too. Yeah, I know, but you don't have like a real job.

Speaker 4: 3:26:24

Yeah, you just get to play with lists, play with lists and Excel spreadsheets.

Speaker 1: 3:26:30

Yeah, it was forklifts before, but it's not anymore. Yeah, it was Kicked that to the curb but hey, everybody that hung out 10, whatever. I haven't even been watching the column, but we appreciate it. Thank you, teague, for the Rizzler, the Spellings, the just be in there.

Speaker 4: 3:26:48

Teague yeah, just be in there, appreciate it Just like you are for everybody else in the state right?

Speaker 1: 3:26:52

That's right. Just like everybody else, I think those guys will probably have something with WIU tomorrow, is it?

Speaker 4: 3:27:02

tomorrow, steve and Teague with WWE tomorrow.

Speaker 1: 3:27:04

Is it tomorrow? Steven Teagues is tomorrow. Oh, those guys, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then they're doing their state show Wisconsin Wrestler Podcast.

Speaker 4: 3:27:10

I'll save that one here, yeah, and then they're doing their state show early Thursday morning With a redacted show that they do it with.

Speaker 1: 3:27:17

Yeah, cool yeah, because we won't mention it, I think. I slipped up, before we got a censor, that you can't mention someone's ranking name, but I can't mention your name.

Speaker 4: 3:27:28

Nobody knows about mine, wisconsin Roster.

Speaker 1: 3:27:31

Podcast and Wisconsin Grappler and the Vision Quest Podcast. We're the ones that bring you the real information. That's right. So again, we've enjoyed everybody being here. We're going to let you go. It's late. What time is it? It's 11 o'clock, yeah, so my family's in bed already. I got late. Start half hour late.

Speaker 4: 3:27:56

Yeah, we could have done it at 10.30.

Speaker 1: 3:27:57

10.30, man, we could have had it done already, but I'm going to find my area here where I'm going to hit the button for show intro. Okay, because it's time to go. Oh, yeah, for sure it's late. So thanks everybody. This will be out tomorrow. I'll put it on podcast form at some point before, hopefully before 730. I don't know, I'll get up in the morning, maybe I'll load it up. It's three hours long. Listen to it. We're out. Bye.