The Trail Bike Economy Is Bigger Than You Think

If you work in the outdoor industry in New South Wales or the ACT, the next few months are packed with decisions that shape your people, your compliance, and your impact. We start on the ground at the Blue Mountains Local Active Partnership launch, where the challenge is bigger than any single program: inactivity is rising alongside chronic disease, and many communities face real barriers to “traditional” fitness. Outdoor recreation is a powerful alternative, especially when we design for inclusion and belonging instead of assuming everyone wants competitive sport.

We then shift into a practical, business-owner view of what’s changing and what’s coming. Think wage and award updates, payday super requirements, the end of the ATO small business super clearinghouse, fee increases you’ll feel in your budget, and new rules like SMS Sender ID registration for branded texts. We also flag reforms on the horizon, from non-compete clause changes to the evolving e-bike and micro-mobility landscape, plus emerging WHS focus areas like psychosocial hazards and fatigue.

The back half goes deep on trail bike riding research, based on refreshed survey analysis and the local council toolkit work. We talk demographics, the mental health and physical health drivers behind why people ride, and the economic contribution to regional towns, including how rider trips translate into local spending. We also name the friction points clearly: affordability, registration settings, locked gates, land policy shifts, perception, and limited junior-friendly access, then walk through policy options that could actually move the needle.

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Transcript

Welcome And Country Acknowledgement

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Welcome to the Outdoors New South Wales and Australian Capital Territory, weekly Outdoor Industry Connect and Share Forum, where ideas thrive, collaborations spark, and our industry comes together to grow. Let's connect, share, and make an impact. This episode is recorded live with our professional outdoor friends and provided post-event as a resource for the outdoor industry.

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Good morning, everyone. Welcome to another Connect and Share. And I'm sitting in the service center on the way down south, heading on my way to Ginderbein for the Venture Outdoors Co-launch. So looking forward to that. So I'm coming to you a bit remotely as we head down south. But can I also, before we get into the mix, acknowledge where everyone's coming from today? And I can see Dave's coming from Parish down in the snow region and Kirsty and Sydney, and of course, um all of our friends who are watching live. We love to pay our respects to our First Nations elders past and present for looking after the land in which we enjoy being part of and interpreting and experiencing and uh providing adventures. So uh Lise, let's kick off on episode

Blue Mountains Active Partnership Launch

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18 of 12th of June. So this week was a bit of a busy week of uh all things uh as we get close to the end of the financial year. But yesterday I had the absolute privilege of being part of the Blue Mountains Local Active Partnership launch, uh, and that is courtesy of Western Sydney Moving, which is trying to inspire the whole of Western Sydney to have more active lifestyles, because we do have such a challenge in the Western Sydney with high obesity, high diabetes, and uh inactivity that is contributing to some of those factors. Uh, not to mention some of the other challenges that exist in socioeconomic and uh and cultural diversity, which uh is an advantage but also a challenge when people see barriers to participating in active lifestyles. So it uh was a great session and uh it was uh a think tank of all the people in the Blue Mountains area to look out what their role is in getting more people active. Uh here I am on stage and and uh presenting to the audience around the outdoor industry and how we actually participate in this. So it uh it was a great opportunity to really showcase what a lot of people don't understand about the outdoor industry. Uh, here is a bit of a mind map of what I I went through, and uh you guys have heard this from me quite a lot, but uh basically I was talking about optimizing the community impact via the outdoor industry because not everyone plays sport, not everyone goes to a gym. And the outdoor industry provides a lot of amazing experiences where people can be outdoors and active for better health and well-being, which you guys only know too well that I speak a lot about. So the four areas that I tried to cover in my speech were systemic constraints and the resource gaps, which then influence in efficient grant systems, exhausting the community effort and duplication. Um, people are not getting the value from small grants and they're not working together. Um, fragmentation of similar causes right across all of the providers makes a very challenging atmosphere. If we're not working together for common cause, we don't have the impact that we could drive. The second thing I looked at was the changing demographics and cultural realities, which again, you guys here at the Connect and Share forums have heard me talk about quite a lot. Some of the demographic data from McCrendle Research is a great example. Um, showing us how integrating the challenges of the high migration diversity that we have and making sure that we show how our cultures can engage in the outdoors. If they don't see themselves in the imagery, um how do they see themselves doing that activity? It's also that shift of competitive towards uh inclusive engagement models as well, because we know with the demographic shifts and what we're seeing in new generations is they're very inclusive. And uh more and more those generations are not wanting to compete in things like sport. So, what options have we got for them to engage in the outdoors when they're not seeking that uh that competition opportunity? Uh, the third area I looked for, looked at was the external drivers for health and participation. So this came in where public health necessity for nature-based experiences is starting to look at social prescribing and how we get our health system to recognize um the natural effects of being in nature. Um, there's just this urgent disconnect between what people are saying they want to do and what they're actually doing. So, as McFindle has found in their research, that people are valuing their health more and more today. Um, but we have a declining participation in recreation and activity. So, where's the disconnect there? How do we bridge that gap? And then the fourth area that I spoke of was the strategic decision criteria for success. So, how do we prioritize that co-design and that sense of belonging over that top-down implementation of people feel welcomed, but in actual fact, we want them to be at the table to start with, not just feel welcome when they get there. How do we bring it into the system thinking right at the start? And then, of course, leveraging the economic multipliers like tourism and health savings that we can add to in active lifestyles. So, yeah, all in all, that's a great summary of what I spoke of for 25 or so minutes. Um, and uh yes, thanks to Western Sydney Moving for the opportunity to be involved in the Blue Mountains Local Active Partnership. Uh, there is a few other local active partnerships that are happening around Western Sydney. Of course, this one resonates quite nicely with the outdoors with so much

NSW Tourism Awards Nomination Push

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on offer um in the Blue Mountains. Now, here's for those uh tourism organizations that might be uh in our midst. Um, we have a chance to have you nominate for the New South Wales Tourism Awards. So if you've got a product, an event, a business that has a tourism element to it, um, this is a great opportunity to showcase what you're doing. Now, nominating is very easy, it's very quick, and you can do that by Friday, the 19th of June on the New South Wales Tourism Awards website, which is part of the New South Wales Tourism Association. Submissions, though, which are a lot more detailed, and if you've entered our awards, uh, probably times that by about three when it comes to the effort applied. And uh your submission is not due until the 12th of August. They are competitive um opportunities, but you know, in doing your application, which I even said with our application, it gives you a sight into your business that you don't normally think about. When you look at the review and your submission, it helps you realize some of those elements that maybe can inspire things that you want to do next year or just recognize the achievements you actually have done. So I do applaud people that go through the process of entering awards because I find it it's more of a professional development exercise than it is about a promotional one. But at the end of the day, you get the promotional outcomes at the end. And we've had some amazing winners from our industry. And if you might remember, Blue Mountains Climbing School represented us not only at state level with a gold member uh gold win, but they also went to the national awards in Perth and were recognized there for their outstanding um achievements. So uh yeah, jump in. If you've got something to offer, put in a submission. Uh, as I say, nominations closed the 19th of June. Now, guys, if you

July 1 Workplace And Tax Changes

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are running a business, take note. There is a lot of changes coming up as of the 1st of July 2026. I've tried to summarize them all for you here. So it gives you a bit of an idea and a bit of a checklist about what you need to know that's changing as of the 1st of July. So the first one, if you um have awards uh that you um your staff are uh are on, as well as the the minimum wage uh um matching to that award, they have all increased by 4.75%. So please, as the awards start coming out, I think the uh the minimum wage has already been announced, but the awards will start changing um as we speak. So they'll start uh being released in the next couple of weeks. Have a look at your award and make sure you're adjusting your pay um to a Plum Day. The second is payday super day starts. So that is when your super needs to be paid at the same day as your pay. So when you're paying your start, they now have to be paid their super uh exactly at the same time. That has been legislated and is being introduced on the 1st of July. Now, some of you might be using the small business super clearinghouse, uh, which was provided by the ATO. But as of the 1st of July, that super uh clearinghouse is now ceasing. So you need to look at your own software, your own opportunities to your own clearinghouse. Um, most software has it embedded now, but if you're not using software, you'll need to have a look at how you can distribute your super uh according to the rules of the ATO. The fourth one there is for those that uh have parental leave. Um the government has now increased that to 26 weeks. So obviously, for organization, that means you have to cover uh that extra time. So have a look at uh those areas that you might need to adjust if um you have people on parental leave. Um asset business charges are going up, they are increasing. You've got a company registration or a proprietary company annual review fee, uh, both of which are going up by $20 on both accounts, and uh factor that into your budgets. The sixth one is certainly the $20,000 instant asset write-off, becoming permanent for all small businesses. So have a think about all the things that you would like to uh add to your business. This is an opportunity to get those much-needed equipment items so you can write them off in your tax return. The seventh one here is the SMS sender ID register. So it is now being brought in by law that businesses that send branded text messages, such as booking reminders, camp updates, um, any membership notices, you'll need to register your sender ID through uh your telco or message provider. So you can no longer do it anonymously or from an anonymous number. You need to register it through your sender ID. So have a look at uh that rule and uh make sure you're compliant. And the last one is for ACT employers and that payroll tax rates have changed from 1 July. So the rate starts at 6.75 for any businesses that turn over 1.75 and up to 20 million. So now for all those people based in the ACT. Now, what's coming? So, not necessarily

Upcoming Reforms On The Horizon

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introduced on 1 July, but what is coming down the track uh for some of our businesses as well. This one will come in in 2027 and it's a non-compete clause. Um, so basically, this reform will stop businesses putting a non-compete clause into contracts. This means that if you have something in your contract that says um while you work for us, you're not able to um uh work for another organization, or you're not able to uh work within a 10-kilometer radius of uh my business, or um, if you leave, you cannot um be employed by a similar business uh within a certain period of time. These are quite common um clauses which will be banned from 2027. So maybe an adjustment period for you to have a look at and see um how you can start removing those from your contracts. The other thing that's coming is our fabulous e-bike reforms. And uh as I've said before, there's quite a few uh inquiries happening right across the country right now when it comes to e-bike reform. But particularly in New South Wales, we're watching of interest what has actually happened in the Queensland. And there is going to be probably some proposed in-stage reforms around minimum allergies, reducing power, um, how we're going to be introducing crushing powers for people doing the wrong thing, um, etc. So watch this space. I will keep you informed as these um go through, but you can rest assured that we are advocating on behalf of the industry for our needs when it comes to e-bikes or e-microbiality, um, micro-mobility reforms. The other thing is the psychosocial hazards and fatigue. So, Safe Work New South Wales has recently published codes of practice on fatigue and sector-specific WHS issues. So, whilst it's um not something that's coming, there is going to probably be more of this coming in the future. But at the moment, Safe Work New South Wales has some resources available for you. And then the fourth one there is that national planting and booking fees, you might remember, went through a bit of a um uh an exhibition period, which we responded to. Um, the event filming fee increase was meant to come in this year, but due to uh fuel crises and all sorts of um challenges that the industry is seeking, National Parks and Wildlife to their credit have put that on hold to assist um businesses at this time. Uh however, we are still waiting to see the outcome of the camping and booking fee changes. And uh again, we will update you as that uh comes about, but we expect that to come out uh before the end of the year. Right, the Pedical Leadership

Programs And Events Worth Your Calendar

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Program again is uh open for applications. So this is cohort three and the last cohort that is funded by a grant that we received uh three years ago. So this is the third year of the three-year program. So this is your last opportunity to get the huge discount on this program. Now it's valued at around about $3,850 per person to go through the program. And uh all our members get access to it for less than 10%. Is it 10%? 1%, $320. So you're looking at a huge discount there. Um, so great opportunity to get your staff involved in the Pitical Leadership program. Jump onto the website and uh apply today. And what's coming up? We have a lot coming up. We've had a big week, and of course, yesterday was um outdoor office day. I hope some people got outdoors, and uh I certainly did. And today um I'm heading down to Gender Bund for the launch of Venture Outdoors Co., um, which is tomorrow. So congratulations to Nathan and the team for transitioning from action initiatives um into Venture Outdoors Co. So we look forward to celebrating with them and all the people um that are coming along to that. On the 30th of June, we will be having another Canberra meetup. Uh, I'll be down in Canberra for a lot of parliamentary meetings, amongst other things, and uh stakeholder meetings. So uh we're inviting all people faced in the Canberra region to come along to our ACT member meetup, and that's on the 30th of June. So we'll get to celebrate end of financial year uh that night from five o'clock. A big July is coming up, and if you haven't heard about these events, I I hope um you're gonna hear them now. But uh hopefully you haven't been hiding under a rock. We've got the masterclass, which is the 15th and 16th of July. This is really for all of the businesses, small to medium businesses that are in our industry. It is a deep dive and all the things you need to know about uh running a sustainable business in the next two years, and boy, have they got some upsets that are coming our way that are going to cause some significant challenges to any business, not just in our industry. So we'll be covering that. Our outdoor industry awards will be on the last night, and that's a great opportunity to celebrate our award winners and finalists, as well as the critical leadership number two graduation. And then the two days after that is our outdoor learning conference. Now, this is the teachers and the practitioners for getting kids outdoors more often to share practice. A great opportunity to network amongst colleagues, but also share your own knowledge with each other. We've got the National Drowning Prevention Summit on the 23rd and 24th of July, and then Bath's Careers event on the 29th of July. I'll be partnering with TAFE, New South Wales, Blue Mountains, uh, in that event and uh trying to promote more of people getting into the outdoor industry. On the 10th of August, we have the Pittical Leadership Program 3 commencing. And uh, for all new statisticians out there that like Excel spreadsheets, uh, this is a big one for me because I get to analyze more about the population and how we can interact with it. It is the Australian Bureau of Statistics Census. So, 11th of August, you need to uh work out where you are and if you need to do the census remotely or if you need to do it that night. Um 12th and 13th of August, I will be leading a course, a two-day course on leading with intent. So this is where I get to um share some great knowledge about leadership and the true meaning of leadership, and give you tools to put in your toolkit about how to lead better uh with your staff, with your colleagues, with your participants. So that's on the 12th and 13th of August. You can book online uh via website or that course. And here's the events in July. So just a quick uh overview again. You've got uh the masterclass, we've got the industry awards, which will be held at Half Kitson Hotel, and then the outdoor learning conference back at Rollamai. Now, can I say Maggie Dent, who is the most amazing author, um, you might have read her book, Um Raising Boys, amongst others. She is a very well-respected um author and uh thought leader in uh in the uh outdoor education space as well. She will be coming along and opening our outdoor learning conference. So we're very excited to have Nagel Dent join us for that event. And a huge thanks to all of our wonderful sponsors. As we say, we can't do this without them. Uh Affinity Insurance Brokers are our major sponsor for our events this year, as well as Gadundal Maring, our Shoalhaven Council, who uh is where we're going to be based, Patty Powan, uh Officer Sport, Destination Sydney Surround South, and of course our venue partner, which is Trinity Grammar

Why We Resurveyed Trail Bike Riding

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School. Now, today I'm going to take you through some research that was provided to us by Macquarie University interns who've just spent the last semester with us about trail bike riding. So we actually put out a survey in 2020 around trail bike riding to understand uh if it is something that, you know, here at Outdoors New South Wales, they said, see, we should one get involved in, uh, and two, understand if there is an element of um of need as well as connection to health and well-being outcomes. That 2020 survey absolutely said that trial bike riding provides huge health and well-being benefits to the community and um removing socialization, um, also uh the mental health effects, and it gave a lot of uh people the opportunity to connect with nature in a very different way. So, Forestry Corporation is obviously a massive supporter of Trialbike Riding and our key partners in our trial bike committee, as well as um initiatives that have come from us. But the 2020 survey really did set the pace for our committee startup and the work we've been doing with trial bike riding since. So we thought we needed to set the pulse and see where we ended up uh at this year and see where our trial bike community is sitting and if we still have similar challenges or um how it is progressing. So the McCurry University students then analysed that data and gave us this presentation. So I'll just give you a quick overview. Uh, we won't spend too much time on this, but um hopefully this gives you some insight into another activity that here at Outdoors New South Wales ACT we actually do support. Now, for transparency here, there's some terminology challenges with mountain bike, e-bike, trail bike, all of the different bikes that might exist in the outdoors. Here we're talking about the motorized um bike version, uh not an e bike. Um, and this is certainly um considered by the industry as the trail bike, uh, where everyone from little Yamaha peewees might throw to Adventurous bikes are included. So, project overview for the team was to help us and support us in analysing the data, but it was also going towards the support of the toolkit. Now I've spoken to you about the toolkit that we launched only a couple of weeks ago, which was the trial bike toolkit for local councils. This enables local councils to see opportunities that might exist on Crownland or land that they own and what they could do for trial bike riders. So this survey was important to back up that process and analyse where it needs to go. So we're the team's research goals, and they did a great job of making sure they ticked the boxes from the university's sense and understood a lot of the uh requirements of their course, uh, as well as meeting the requirements of what I set the task for them to do, which is to analyse the data. Uh certainly from the ethical considerations, they abided by all the right rules when it comes to uh to research, and certainly uh confidentiality amongst uh anonymity and disclaimers were taken into consideration. So let's have a look at the summary. The demographics of recreators and childbike riding. So if we look at the age group, it's quite interesting to see that 31% of the recreators were aged between 45 and 54 years, and followed by that older cohort of 55 and 64. So the top two age groups are were exactly the same as the 2020 survey results, accounting for more than 50% of all the responders. So the

Health Benefits, Spending, And Barriers

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only change is that I'm guessing that uh from 2020 to 2026 we're seeing uh more of that shift as we get older. Um, and uh yeah, it's certainly the older age groups that are becoming um more popular versus the 35 capital groups we saw in the 2020 data. Now there's probably some perceptions out there of what occupation the riders um are part of, but uh here is the data. It's 37% of all our trial bike riders are working in trades, transport, and equipment operations. But the second largest group is actually around um 20%, and it's in management roles. So a noticeable difference between the different occupational groups, but the highest to see still remained similar across both years of the survey being conducted. Now the impact on health and well-being, which is really the part that I concentrate on, this really determines how we get involved as our fillers for New South Wales ACT. And uh 91% of all respondents say that they ride because of the benefits that they get physically on exercise, but also mentally. So, hence, you know, the frequency of uh riding is regular uh as it supports their overall health and well-being. And they do it in various ways. You can see that uh 93% do it with friends. Um, Facebook groups are still up there uh as one of the major um contributors to getting people together, although probably dropped since 2020. And clubs have actually risen since 2020, with 60% actually connected through that type of um social network. Um, people that don't ride with others uh was only a very small percentage, and then of course the other. So the girls actually determined that uh a monthly ride is a healthy mind because they saw that real clear impact on health and well-being. So half of all respondents ride at least monthly. Um, 39% ride at least weekly. So still it's about five percentage. And then the remaining ride at least once quarterly or once annually. So it certainly says that uh you know you've got quite a substantial regular um effect on people that are riding, with an average rating of success, if if we can put it that way, is 4.3 out of five. So saying that they take immense um pride in having um health benefits from their rides. Economic contributions, though, is something that I think people don't really understand well. And this is where we knew that it was going to support our local council toolkit because we need to work with economic development managers and people that are in the tourism sector to realize what contribution uh trail bike riders can provide their towns. So we asked them in the 2020 survey and we asked them again in the 26 survey. And what we actually found is overall the actual spend of trail bike riders equates to 73% more than the average visitor to regional New South Wales. So this is a substantial increase, and something that I think you know the people that do have the opportunity to uh invite trial bike riders into their community uh will benefit from. So they're not only looking at uh length of stay, but also that expenditure as well. And they come in groups. So a nice little mix, and uh because they can't carry much with them on their bike, uh they buy everything there. So, what are the barriers? And this was the other area that the committee particularly wanted to look at is what is stopping this activity from occurring. So obviously, we have a fuel issue in 2026, so that might certainly have uh been a little bit biased in its uh results in this survey, but uh, when real prices were lower in 2020, it was about access. It was all about getting access to the right trials, then followed by cost of registration. In 2026, it was clearly the fuel, um, but the affordability in general is at the forefront of recreators' minds. Um, so that was really, really clear. Um, e-bikes has certainly popped up there, and uh its effect on uh the access issues as well as uh perception of the riders. Um, and other areas were around population growth, which then influences decisions on what land can be accessed. Um they see that as a major influencing factor when uh things like national parks take on uh forestry land and then change the mix of use, so um, which we've seen only too well in uh recent examples. So, what do riders actually want? And this was the question, okay. So, if you had uh an opportunity, what is going to help in access and doing more of uh trailbike riding for you? It was rec regio. Now, for those that um are not trail bike riders, you have may not know what rec regio is, but certainly in Victoria there is uh a recreation registration um that is available for trailbike riders. It is a low-cost option to register your bike and participate in trial bike riding. Here in New South Wales, if you're in forestry land, you need to have a license, you need to have registration, um, and that is full license, full regio for your bike in um in New South Wales. So we don't actually have that option of a smaller cost rec regio. Now there's a lot of barriers around that, which um we're certainly navigating through, which includes legislation changes and um and insurance issues, but we um certainly have been talking to politicians about what we need to do in this space. So, registered or unregistered was a question we actually asked our participants as well. Um, the good news here is I think people are starting to realize that they need to register their bikes to ride in New South Wales. So we're seeing an increase of knowledge there. Um, but you can see that uh 92.98% ride in states of forests, which is the main area for which um is available for trial bike riders. So, yes, they ride on public lands. There's not too many that ride on private anymore as we get uh very challenged with access to uh commercial parks in particular in New South Wales, something that uh WA does very well with private bike parks. Um, but we haven't had that opportunity here in New South Wales. Again, why we want to talk to councils about potentially setting up a public-private partnership with um maybe some commercial bike parks.

Policy Options And Final Wrap

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Recreator perspective. So this was um the question around issues regarding land management and uh reducing access. So they saw policy changes about priority for use being the bigger barrier. So they believe that these policy changes are the biggest reasons that uh obviously trailbike riders are being pushed out of certain areas. Um, and they believe it's about complaints from other public land users sort of contributing to reducing that access. Um, other indicators are with increasing habitat protections. Um, it could be writer behavior that's upsetting the majority with the minority um being behaving in a not so favorable way, um, and amongst other areas. We do know that um, I think perception is that uh the noise pollution is an issue, um, and uh that's certainly something that, as technology has changed, has lessened over the years. So the main challenges that riders would like resolved is certainly the high registration costs. There's no alternative in New South Wales. Um, the limited access due to regulations and locked gates is a continual challenge, and lack of suitable riding areas. The um the land management policies are all leading into that, but the negative public perception, there's a consistent battle for those that um are doing the right thing, riding with their friends, certainly again doing it for their own mental health and their um their ability to connect with nature. And there's also a huge amount of limited opportunities for junior riders. So if you know you wanted to get your son onto a trail bike for his own motor skills and development as uh as kids do, then the opportunity to get him or her onto a trail is um very difficult because in public lands you need to be a license holder unregistered. So we certainly have not got a lot of those commercial bike paths to enable kids to try the sport, let alone um yeah, just do it recreate. There's a lot of clubs um and they can get involved in clubs, but uh from a recreator sense, it's it's a bit of a challenge. So the final snapshot is this that the average trial bike riding trip lasts 2.11 days. Um, about 39% of recreators ride at least weekly. Fuel cost is the biggest concern for riders, and we'll just see that we're up to 90% of recreated bikes being registered. Uh, we hope that those 10% of recreated bikes are only on their own private land or other private land. So if we look at um some of that data in here, that one that really stands out for me is that opportunity for uh tourism expenditure into regional areas and support the visitor economy in some of the most um uh regional areas that we have in New South Wales, we might see opportunities to view some underutilised land. So the top three reasons why recreators ride trail bikes was one for physical exercise, two for mental health, and three for social connection. So it really verifies why we are part of the trailbike riding community. So the bills came up with three policy recommendations. The first one was to work with land managers on installing QR codes so we can understand a little bit more about the volume and what's actually happening on the ground. It can inform decisions around land use and uh certainly look for funding opportunities if we know what we're measuring. The medium term is to look at something like an interim license that allows recreators uh the same rights as rec regio. Um this obviously is a more detailed look on what the legislation can provide, but certainly something we can look at. The third and longer term one is certainly to have rec regio in New South Wales, following the Vic Rhodes example there. Again, a long-term thinking, particularly when legislation is involved to um to be challenged and to change. So, yeah, the girls did a great job, and it's great to have in Macora Uni. We have interns um every six months uh that work on different projects, some which you know is good for you uh to know, and some which is more internal for the workings here at Our First New South Wales and ACT. But thank you to um to the girls for doing such a great job and supporting our trial by community. So that's all I have for you today. So on the recording, we might close off and uh open up for general discussions. But thank you again for joining another Connection Share, although I'm halfway between Sydney and Ginderbike. Uh, we can always have these on the road. So have a great week, everyone, and look forward to seeing you all next week.

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