Better Sleep with The Power Couple, Bohdanna & Roman Shapoval

Today we're trying something different, a guest podcast.  Another podcaster and I have decided we have common ground on EMF and each of us will feature a podcast produced by the other.  Should be fun. 

I believe you'll enjoy this episode, and who knows?  You may want to follow Roman and Bohdanna, The Power Couple Podcast.

Here's their web site:  https://www.thepowercouple.ca/

This episode is all about sleep.  I love their "Sleep Industrial Complex"

Why melatonin supplements may be doing us more harm than good

Why milk used to be considered a sleep aid

Why ADHD may be getting misdiagnosed

How sleep has become a shady business model

How precision-timed Sunlight can increase our sleep quality

Transcript

Keith: 0:01

Are you ready for something entirely different? On the EMF Remedy podcast Today we're hosting a guest podcast. No, I didn't say that wrong. It's not a guest on our podcast. We're hosting a guest podcast having to do with better sleep. You don't want to miss this Coming up.

Gweneth: 0:41

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Keith: 1:04

Hi, this is Keith Cutter with EMF Remedycom, host of the EMF Remedy podcast. Whether you're wanting to take a precautionary approach to your family's exposure to harmful man-made electromagnetic radiation, or you are well attuned to your environment and you're able to sense the deviation to the natural electromagnetic environment caused by man-made radiation and therefore must, with all urgency, reduce your exposure, you're in the right place. Let us put away the fear and replace it with knowledge and a plan. A quick remark about last week's podcast called Fiber Internet is not a panacea, and then we will be on our way. If you listened to last week's episode on Fiber Internet before Saturday, february 17, 2024. If you listened to it before Saturday, the 17th, I have some news. You need to listen to it. You get to listen to it again. Let's say it that way. I rerecorded it, that's right. Same episode title but totally different content. Long story short. A friend let me know. The previous version was confusing so I reworked it to make it more clear. That's actually the third iteration, by the way, the first was never published, didn't make it out of the studio.

Keith: 2:51

Why so much effort, so much work to get this episode right? Understanding the non-native EMF exposure from Fiber is critical for our future. It really is. It is promoted as the magical unicorn and it is far from that. From an EMF perspective Today, it's not without significant EMF challenges. I've been talking about this for four or five years. It's difficult to understand, it is a very complex topic and I hope the new edition is much easier to understand. Anyway, I finally took the time and effort to put together a comprehensive episode to help everybody understand. This issue may have ramifications for you, your children, your grandchildren, whether or not you planned to have Fiber Internet service to your home. I hope you'll take the time to listen and thank you, dear friend, for the feedback that led to this revised edition.

Keith: 3:59

Now, today, as I said, we're trying something new. I recently met Roman Shapoval, who produces a weekly podcast with his bride, bodana. Roman and I decided to do something fun and new. We're trading episodes. Yeah, each with permission from the other. He's going to publish one of my episodes on his show this Friday and I'm publishing this episode of theirs today. Yeah, I'm going to stop talking in a minute and you're going to hear one of their episodes. So why am I doing this? Because I can, because I want to support these podcasters, because I see in what they're doing the same spirit of wanting to replace fear with knowledge and a plan. So I think you'll enjoy this episode and maybe you'll enjoy following their podcast as well. I'll put a link in the description. After they're done with this episode, I'll give you some more info on where you can follow them. So what are Bodana and Roman talking about today? They're talking about sleep, better sleep, more sleep, problems with melatonin yeah, melatonin is not the be on the end. All supplement, an interesting link to ADHD.

Keith: 5:32

Yeah really a link to sleep deprivation and ADHD and blue light and wonderful of wonderful sleep tracking without the gadgets. No, like myself, these guys are not promoting or a rings or whatever sleep trackers that obviously have the capacity, even in airplane mode, to create non native EMF. So guess what they did? They got out of pencil and paper and, with some guidance, they learned from sleep tracking. So I just like their approach on that. All right, so I'm gonna be quiet here in just a minute. I just want to say hope you enjoy this. Now I'm gonna play their episode for you. I'll be back at the conclusion with a few remarks. Here we go.

Roman: 6:29

I'm Roman.

Bohdanna: 6:30

I'm Bodana.

Roman: 6:31

We're the power couple and your co-pilots on this crazy ride called like.

Bohdanna: 6:37

You are more powerful than you know, so.

Roman: 6:40

Bodana, did you know that as many as 70% of children with ADHD have mild to severe sleeping problems? This is according to a source from the National Library of Medicine.

Bohdanna: 6:55

Well, that is very interesting, Roman, because according to Dr Nisa Das, who's an assistant director of the sleep medicine program at Ohio State University, is actually not very obvious when young children are sleep deprived and as a result of sleep deprivation, they can actually become hyperactive, which then leads to a diagnosis of ADHD. So I think we might be looking at an example of the chicken or the egg.

Roman: 7:27

It's kind of like those mill towns, right, and we're.

Bohdanna: 7:29

They just want their, their blankie or their every I think everybody has seen at some point in their lives that two-year-old toddler that's all happy playing, you know, la, la, la la. And then all of a sudden, yes, the crash. And why? Because they are exhausted, yes, so it's a very interesting point and contradiction to, you know, these, these two elements that we first brought up. So it makes one wonder what comes first, and we're gonna get into some very interesting topics today during our episode on sleep.

Roman: 8:11

So today we'll discuss why melatonin supplements may be doing more harm than good, why milk used to be considered a sleep aid, why ADHD may be getting misdiagnosed, the shady sleep industrial complex, and how precision time sunlight can help us all increase our sleep quality.

Bohdanna: 8:35

Indeed, it's gonna be very interesting episode and very close to my heart. But first, before we dive into that, if you'd like to support our work, please become a paid subscriber. Subscribe. If you'd like to consider supporting our work, become a paid subscriber on sub-stack. Or if you really dig this episode on sleep, consider taking our emf 101 masterclass, where we explore how electromagnetic fields impact our health and Sleep and learn about the steps you can take to proactively create your own world of wellness and the registration for emf 101 closes on Monday, february 26th.

Roman: 9:21

So, yes, stay tuned to the end of our podcast episode to find out how you can sign up at a discounted rate.

Bohdanna: 9:30

But first, if you haven't done so already, hit the follow button so you never miss an episode of the power couple podcast, where we dive into a new conversation Every Friday and the rest of the week. You can find us on sub-stack at the power couple or on our website at the power couple dot ca.

Roman: 9:51

We'd absolutely love to hear from you and please. Your opinions matter, so please leave us feedback and we really appreciate it.

Bohdanna: 10:01

So, before we dive in today, our disclaimer we're not medical professionals and we don't make any medical claims.

Bohdanna: 10:10

So I just mentioned how the topic of sleep is very close to my heart, because I myself, since childhood, struggled with sleep good sleep and it all culminated in part of my crash and burn burnout almost eight years ago now, where I was struggling with anxiety, depression and insomnia what I like to call the unholy trifecta perfect storm. That led to my burnout. And why it's also important to us is because, for anybody who may not know our background and and maybe you're tuning in to our podcast for the first time Roman and I are all about getting back to the basics of health and how we can do that for free, tapping into how our ancestors lived, because there's so much wisdom in that and it boils down to our movement, our nutrition, our sleep, and and. So that is why today we're going to be diving into that topic once again, because it has become more and more of an important topic across the board when it comes to our physical health and our mental health, and the good news is we have hope and we have tools that all of us can apply in our lives if we want to to improve our sleep and, in turn, improve our overall health.

Bohdanna: 11:56

So Stay tuned, listen in. I think you'll get a lot of great stuff out of this episode. You.

Roman: 12:05

So we came up across some very provocative statistics, because you know what? In 1942, americans had about eight hours on average per night of sleep, compared to 6.8 hours in 2013, which is 13% decrease. And you know in 1942 what was going on.

Bohdanna: 12:28

World War II baby.

Roman: 12:29

Yeah, bombs were dropping, the radio was blaring, you know all kinds of crazy things, and I think that's part of the issue was that, well, people just had radios back then. They didn't have TVs and all these other things blaring at them constantly all over the place, or you had incandescent light, which I think is also a contributing factor, whereas now and also, if I may add, I think it wasn't especially for Americans, north Americans.

Bohdanna: 13:03

We didn't have the war in our living room until the 60s, right? Well, no, it started a bit earlier, right, where beforehand it was very much a separate thing, especially for us in the North American continent, and we had troops over there, but we weren't in the middle of it like the continent was, like the UK, right. But my point is that today, you know, the minute you turn on your phone or your computer, you can be in the middle of any situation that increases our stress and makes it chronic, because we're exposed to that every single day. So even though people in 1942 in North America were in the middle of a war, it was still in a way removed, on top of what you were stating, that we didn't have the exposure to everything else that we do today.

Roman: 14:09

Great points, and I think it's always important to have a historical context. We forget where we came from and what is actually happening in our living room now. We think now is the way it always was.

Bohdanna: 14:23

Exactly, exactly, and that's the whole point with this message today is that this is not the norm, the way we are living today and the unhealthy relationship we have with sleep today.

Roman: 14:37

So another statistic in 2011, the CDC noted that more than one in three Americans are asleep to fry and fast forward to 2023, 37% of all US adults say that they slept somewhat or much worse in 2023 than in previous years.

Bohdanna: 14:57

And you know so the trend is remaining the same.

Bohdanna: 15:01

We're not getting any better. But you know, being critical as we are and knowing how important it is to dive a little deeper into research statistics, we did so, and so these statistics were based on a November 2023 online study by the Sleep Foundation, and the study interviewed a thousand Americans aged 18 years and older. So you know, you may think, okay, well, we're only talking about a thousand people out of 330 million people, and again, we are focusing on primarily American, north American, statistics here, because that's what's available to us. This isn't to say that the unhealthy relationship with sleep doesn't exist around the world, but, like I said, going back to the study, we say, okay, well, it's only a thousand people, sure. But we read a little further and what was interesting to see is that, according to Google Trends, the word sleep hit an all-time high as a search topic for Americans in 2023. And specific searches included. Why am I tired all the time? So, as I said, it seems that the trend remains the same and Roman and I would wager it is getting worse.

Roman: 16:19

So you may say, well, so what? Well, here are just a few statistics. On top of that, the lack of sleep costs the US over $400 billion and 1.2 million working days annually. Not to mention that almost a quarter of all car crash accidents and injuries are associated with sleepiness, and 70 million people in the US alone struggle with sleep disorders. A third of those US adults experience insomnia and in turn, we have an increased risk of everything from diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, obesity, and 50% of insomnia cases result from anxiety, depression or psychological stress.

Bohdanna: 17:07

Now this is where I come in and I can relate to this point Because, like I said, that wholly unholy trifecta that I was experiencing and it wasn't just eight years ago during my burnout and sorry, I have to retract my words, I don't want to claim it as mine, as the burnout that I was experiencing this started decades earlier and it was a snowball effect. We don't all of a sudden just boop and we have health issues. They develop over time, and so I can connect with this, because my insomnia was being fed by the anxiety that I was experiencing, although the depression made me feel so sluggish didn't want to do anything, but I couldn't get any good sleep to regenerate my brain that so desperately needed it. So it's this vicious cycle that you get into, and then you get desperate, and so you start looking for solutions and medication, which are all band-aid solutions, and we'll get into that a bit later. But going back to this whole point of 50% of insomnia cases are the result of anxiety, depression or psychological stress.

Bohdanna: 18:25

Okay, so where is this coming from? Yes, we've always had that, but we find ourselves today in a chronic state of stress and I'm going to connect that back to our exposure to everything that's going on under the sun through our devices, and social media in particular, and why that stood out for me was, again a statistic that came out of the studies that adults in the US spend, on average, three and a half hours on social media before bed every single night, and YouTube is the most popular platform for this. Interestingly enough, this is huge three and a half hours people. And what are you taking in? What are you absorbing? This will all impact our health, both physical and mental. So, roman, you're going to expand on this a little more, too, because this is your wheel house in terms of why this is so bad for us, this connection.

Roman: 19:37

Well, when? We expose ourselves to blue light. It delays melatonin secretion by at least an hour and a half to two hours.

Bohdanna: 19:45

And the blue light is coming from devices right, right.

Roman: 19:50

So your body now is producing melatonin. Instead of producing it, let's just say, at midnight, it starts peaking at around 2 AM, or say 4 AM, with many of us who are on those devices. So now we still have, when we wake up at 6 AM, we still have a lot of melatonin circulating through our system, and melatonin does what it makes us feel tired. So now we feel hung over even without the drinking, because our brain is literally tired, right, and this sets us up for snowball effect of being disrupted or hormones being disrupted the following day, because now we're playing catch-up.

Roman: 20:39

Because now we may stay in bed longer or we may not want to get outside, but if you get outside first thing in the morning, that's the best thing you can do because that boosts your dopamine right away because of the blue light that you should be seeing is first in the morning and that way you can reset your whole circadian rhythm again. But many of us we get on that hamster wheel and it's harder for us to get off.

Bohdanna: 21:04

Get on the hamster wheel with our cell phone in hand first thing in the morning right.

Roman: 21:09

Exactly.

Bohdanna: 21:10

The worst thing for us to do.

Roman: 21:12

So we're thinking, okay, what can we do about this? Well, many people will take melatonin supplements and thinking, oh, to help us sleep. But again, we're introducing something. If your body makes it, you're not designed to take it. And if we are taking melatonin, and when everybody's are now producing melatonin anyway, they're gonna produce them anyway. During the night we may feel even more hung over. And on top of that, you know melatonin supplements. So just go through. One of your statistics says that melatonin supplementation increased over 400% that's, four times quadrupled between 1999 and 2018 among adults. A lot of melatonin supplements are inaccurately labeled and analysis of melatonin supplementation found that they may include 350% more melatonin within what's on the label, and we think that's good. But if we get too much melatonin, guess what? Melatonin and dopamine are related. They're synced and they have an inverse relationship, meaning if you have a high demelatonin, you're gonna have low dopamine. If you have high dopamine, you're gonna have low melatonin.

Bohdanna: 22:33

And dopamine is that feel-good hit right which we also get from scrolling through social media right, and it's designed for that. So again, there's that perfect storm that's brewing from all of this.

Roman: 22:47

Exactly, and so half of parents, 50% of parents, report giving melatonin to their children under 13 to help them fall asleep.

Bohdanna: 22:56

Yeah, that was shocking. That was shocking to read because and again, maybe it's the result of parents growing up now in this environment in this mindset that you need to take the pill to feel better. You know, not understanding that on our own. Our bodies are perfectly built to do what they need to do to keep us healthy, and that includes allowing us to fall asleep. Especially for children, there is should be absolutely zero need for them to have an outside source to help them fall asleep, and if you're one of the parents listening to this giving your child melatonin, please take a step back and consider what the root cause might be of why your child is not able to fall asleep.

Roman: 23:55

There's a greater issue behind this and you know you mentioned outside sources.

Roman: 24:01

There is an outside source that the child can have and that's actually milk, mother's milk, which is very high in melatonin.

Roman: 24:10

And you know there was a study done by the Journal of Medicinal Food in 2015 and they showed how mice this is mice fed cows milk in the night that was secreted by cows at night, called night milk, was much higher in melatonin and tryptophan and that allowed these mice to fall asleep faster. Their muscular contractions went down, similar to what happens when you're given valium. So the study said that the night milk was just as effective and not more than valium, which is diazepam. And another reason why melatonin supplements that you get in a in a bottle form not mother's milk can be bad is because, as it decreases dopamine, your dopamine receptor is what helps your eye and your pupil move, and there have been studies showing that people who use melatonin supplements for a long time will actually start to experience vision loss because their pupils can no longer constrict because it's a muscle. So that's something else and we'll link to that in the show notes, the article that I wrote about melatonin supplements.

Bohdanna: 25:24

And again another example of where we put a band-aid on top of another band-aid. So what are you going to do now you start experiencing vision loss because you've been taking melatonin for too long, because you didn't address the root cause of your sleep assist in the first place Right. So that's you know. This is and this isn't just something you know, we were reading out of a textbook. Both Roman and I have gone through this to experience it experience better levels of health because we have addressed root causes.

Roman: 26:00

So well, what's the best way we can address that root cause? By learning more. So now we think okay, well, like they say, what gets measured gets managed. So now we need to track our sleep to figure out what's going wrong. Right, that's the next step. Well, wrong, because you know, like anything else, the sleep has now become what I like to call the sleep industrial complex. And now there are all these trackers, you know bits and things that are getting loaded onto us. It's going to become over an 11 billion dollar business by 2028. So now we're using cell phones to track our sleep.

Bohdanna: 26:46

Right.

Bohdanna: 26:46

Right and which are, you know, those, those devices that are attached to us, those, the cell phones especially, you know all of that should be as far away from you as possible when you're sleeping, and this is something that we get into in terms of building your sleep sanctuary in our EMF 101 masterclass. There's there's a lot of great positive things that you can do and a lot of things that you can eliminate without having to buy expensive trackers, because, again, this is built into us. Naturally we just have to understand how to tap into it again, because we become so disconnected from it. But it's such, it's so ironic to say, okay, let's, let's use, you know, devices to sleep, to track our sleep, when those devices are one of them Biggest problems that we're encountering in this modern day so and.

Bohdanna: 27:45

but I also want to qualify electronic sleep trackers. One of the reasons why I was able to get my sleep back, you know, back on track for the first time in my life. Like I said, since childhood I always struggled was because I did sleep tracking, but I did it with a pen and paper, journaling and according to a fabulous book, sinking to Sleep by Dr Judith Davidson, which I highly recommend no gadgets, no, nothing. And it was the best thing that I ever did for myself.

Roman: 28:22

One of Very important and you're exploring yourself. You're becoming your own tracker. You're literally tracking the footsteps of your mind and your body, you know. And so it becomes not only more self-fulfilling or, sorry, gratifying, it's more effective because you're actually diving qualitatively into these things versus quantitatively seeing when my gamma delta wave sleep is happening or how many sleep spindles you have. And hey, the technology. There is great technology out there.

Roman: 28:54

But you just need to be careful. You know, like I know, there's the aura ring, which can technically be put on airplane mode, but still, it's still a device and our bodies are meant to be able to sleep effectively and you know the best meter. You know I have lots of electromagnetic meters and things like that, but the best meter we have is our body. It's just gonna let us know how we feel, right. So that's what we need to be in tune with our body.

Bohdanna: 29:21

We are the best intelligence. Artificial intelligence will never be that.

Roman: 29:26

Exactly, and, you know, the best type of intelligence is common sense, and this is something we came across with the sleep foundation, where I was thinking, okay, we were looking at all these charts.

Bohdanna: 29:41

Right, they're saying about Part of the study yeah, quirky.

Bohdanna: 29:44

Well, yeah, so I found this very interesting because I'm reading through some great statistics, okay, and then came to a part where it was outlining the subheading Quirky sleep hacks filled the internet in 2023. And I'm looking. You know they were talking about things like bed rotting and I don't know. I didn't even bother reading that part, but the chart that they showed, you know, of what men and women separately did to try and fix their sleep was all about getting back to the basics of hell.

Roman: 30:22

Exercise sunlight.

Bohdanna: 30:24

No, no, well, exercise at the top, Exercise better nutrition. Actually, you know getting off devices earlier, those kind of things. I was like, okay, great, point, point, point Again. All free things that you can do for yourself, all things that we should be doing. But it was a little further down where I kept reading and it said now these are the trends worth, you know, taking into consideration and the chart shows, you know, better pillows, better mattress, these different tech. You know quirky things. Yeah, and I'm going like, hold on a sec. These are all things that you'd have to buy, these are all products. So Roman dug a little deeper.

Roman: 31:10

And I went into the privacy policy of the sleep foundation and I love that they all these like these serious sounding names, the sleep foundation or the National Institute of Better Science, you know, and all these things. So I went into the privacy policy and I saw, oh, it's actually sleep. It's listed under sleep doctorcom holdings and so sleep doctor holdings. Well they, I went to their site and it's under, you know, dug a little deeper and it goes under the sleep doctor and they sell everything under the sun from these gadgets and devices that measure your sleep pillows, you know, different types of all kinds of quirky things that they were saying weren't quirky, they're the trends to follow.

Roman: 31:59

Yeah, so, and so we just need to be careful, you know, because I'm not saying that these things, some of them won't work, but we are saying that some of them actually won't work because they're going to hurt your sleep more especially if they're gadgets that are emitting electricity. Right, and so many of us have forgotten that we are electrical beings and, as Woo Woo was at Sounds. Well, guess what? When you go to the hospital, they take, if you want to scan your brain, it's an electroencephalogram, or your heart, right, Electrocardiogram. And that's how we sleep at night. Our cells communicate through electrical frequencies to divide or multiply, to repair themselves. That's exactly how it works when you sleep.

Roman: 32:40

So if you take any electrical device.

Bohdanna: 32:42

You're impeding communication right between your cells, Exactly so. And again, you know, going back to the sleep foundation, you know that's taps into that whole sleep industrial complex that Roman coined that lovely term. I love it because it's true it's become a business, like we said. I mean, how many billions of dollars projected in sales by 2028, and just sleep trackers, and again in this study showing these are the work, the trends worth following, all these products that you can buy. But the quirky trends are things like exercising more and eating better, and you know anyways.

Bohdanna: 33:26

But what was interesting towards the bottom of that graph, the lower percentage of things that people tried to do to fix their sleep was actually turning off devices at that time and getting up to see the sunlight in the morning. And I thought, wow, well, there you go. And this is where we come in, Because Roman and I, as the power couple, that's what we're all about. It's about powering on our days with light and powering off our nights from, you know, addictive technology. So this is still in its infancy, but very much worth exploring, and that's what we're here to do.

Roman: 34:06

Well, you know it's really not in its infancy.

Roman: 34:10

I know what you mean, but you know the sun has been around for a while, but we're being convinced that you know to take it for granted stay away from it.

Roman: 34:17

The UV is going to kill you, which is the opposite is true.

Roman: 34:23

But I just finished reading a book by Linda Gettis called Chasing the Sun, and she explores different types of healing modalities with the sun and how the Amish, how their health is different because they don't have as much electricity.

Roman: 34:38

And she went into a study that was done at the Lighting Research Center in Troy, new York, where they measured lux, and lux is the amount of light that strikes the surface, and so stick with me just a bit. So she found that the illuminance of a typical office was between 100 and 300 lux during the daytime, and even on the glumious, overcast winter day it's at least 10 times higher outside, and in the summer, outside, it could be 100,000 lux. So why is this important? Well, because bright light boosts our alertness more than even two cups of coffee. They found with that from again, that blue light, the dopamine, and those exposed to bright morning light between 8am and noon took an average of 18 minutes to fall sleep at night, compared to 45 minutes of those in the low light group, and you know, and also slept for 20 minutes longer and had fewer sleep disturbances.

Bohdanna: 35:41

And that's again, don't be a low light, because you'd be a low life. And this is something that I can, again, from my own experience, say it works. Because, you know, I realized there was a lot of things in my lifestyle that I had to change, and one of them was, you know well, I was sleeping in till 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock in the morning. I can't even imagine doing that now, but that's what I was trying to do, because my sleep was so terrible. I woke up every day, dragging, you know. And so what changed? Seeing that morning light Especially in the wintertime.

Roman: 36:21

The association they found was even stronger in the wintertime because you're not getting as much light. So you need that, especially now in the morning.

Bohdanna: 36:29

Absolutely, absolutely.

Roman: 36:32

So listen, you know, this is why we're here. We're not here to sell you gadgets or products. Yes, we do need to make money, but we are interested in knowledge because we want to set you free right, and that's why the only product we're interested in really giving you is knowledge and that's that you'll be able to apply for the rest of your life. We don't want you to be holding into some silly little gadget that's not going to work. We want powerful humans on this earth, everywhere, regenerating together so we can all be happier, have less stress and more connection with each other.

Bohdanna: 37:14

Exactly, and that's why we always go back to our models saying that you are more powerful than you know, because we've forgotten how powerful we are. We've forgotten, we've given away our power to outside sources when in reality, it's all within.

Roman: 37:31

So, speaking of knowledge, if you give a man a fish, like they say, you feed him for a day, and if you teach a man a fish or a woman a fish, you give him fish for life.

Gweneth: 37:44

I think that's how it goes. It's along those lines, yes.

Roman: 37:48

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Bohdanna: 38:34

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Roman: 38:43

So one more thing before we wrap up with our key takeaways. If our episode has left you feeling empowered, help us grow and spread our message by rating our podcast and sharing it with your friends. Let us know if there's any new topics you'd like us to discuss.

Bohdanna: 38:59

So, as we like to do when wrapping up each episode, take a moment to reflect on today's messages and ask yourself these questions what is your relationship with sleep? Are there elements that you think can change or root causes behind your poor sleep? If there are, we'd love to hear from you.

Roman: 39:25

Thanks again for listening and on this week's conversation.

Bohdanna: 39:28

And remember you are more powerful than you know.

Keith: 39:33

All right. So what did you think? I hope you enjoyed this first-ever guest episode. If you're interested in hearing more of this type of content, check out the Power Couple podcast with Bodana and Roman Schopavall, which you can find on Apple Podcasts, spotify and Substack. Check out their website, which is wwwthepowercoupleca. No, that's not com, it's ca. So one more time wwwthepowercoupleca. All right. As you know, I've been dealing with electromagnetic poisoning for almost four decades. Didn't know what it was until more than three decades had passed. That is why I do what I do. That is why I feel compelled to share what I've learned. I spend hundreds of hours per year in producing free content.

Keith: 40:40

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