#11 Finding the Best Qualified EMF Consultant in Your Local Area

Want to find a well-qualified EMF Consultant who can best meet your needs when and where needed? We'll discuss in detail what type of resource will best meet your unique needs and how to locate such a resource.  

Whether you consider yourself EHS (electrohypersensitive) or just want to take a precautionary approach to managing exposure to harmful man-made electromagnetic radiation in your home, this podcast will help you locate the best help for your situation.

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Hi, this is Keith Cutter with EMF Remedy. You're listening to Reversing Electromagnetic Poisoning. In this episode, we're going to talk about finding the best qualified EMF consultant in your local area. So get ready. You're going to need to learn enough about the topic EMF and specifically assessment, remediation and consulting in order to identify a good candidate. So we got lots of information to share with you today. I'm really looking forward to this. I hope you find it of value. So, finding a properly qualified EMF consultant is going to be key to your success. You really can't make progress on understanding the complex manmade electromagnetic radiation picture in a home without certain skills and abilities, none of which , uh, we are born with. So successful consultants in this area are not born with the skills and knowledge that they need. I wrote an EMF article for an international journal and had a lot of support from that, and I received requests for me to come to distant places to help people get EMF in their homes under control. And I have to say, while I was appreciative of the opportunities and the offers, I ended up declining all of the requests. And the reason is I don't travel outside the Inland Northwest to do evaluations. So I ended up helping several readers find good qualified consultants in their local areas. And the article I should mention in the article, which was a subject of our , uh, episode number 10 NI recommend clearly in that article working with a qualified local consultant. And that's different from some of my colleagues. Some of them do have more of a desire to travel to different areas and perform the assessments. But you know what? I believe we will make our nation stronger by distributing this ability to do good quality EMF assessments throughout the United States. We have roughly 300 million people we're told living here. And in my opinion, of course, they all need to be looking after their EMF exposure. So we really do have a lot of need, and I believe we have a lot fewer consultants than we need. And I believe that using good qualified local consultants is the way that we can get better as a , at a , as a nation , um, and within local communities, it's sort of the support your local farmer idea, if you will. Anyway, this podcast is an effort to help all who are looking to find the best consultant in their local area where possible ideal with two types of clients in general. One has an interest in taking a precautionary approach, two , their ex family's exposure to harmful manmade electromagnetic radiation. And then I have a much different set of customers who have an immediate, urgent need to reduce their exposure to the lowest possible levels right now. So depending on which camp you see yourself in, somebody wanting to be proactive or somebody needing to take urgent, immediate action, you know, that's going to drive what you're looking for in terms of a consultant. But I feel that we can , uh, cover both groups in this , uh, presentation today. So what are my qualifications in this area? I am an experienced EMF consulting business owner. My company offers EMF home assessments and remediation planning. So we go into people's homes and show them exactly what their exposures are to the three main types of EMF in their home. And in that same visit, we outline a plan for remediation of the different types of radiation they're being exposed to. I also help people with land and home pre-purchase consultations. There's a growing number of people who are aware of the dangers of EMF exposure, and they wanna make sure a piece of land that they're buying for the purpose of building a home or an existing home that they're buying. They wanna make sure they know what the EMF issues are with either that land or the existing <affirmative>. And the third thing that we do is help people who really want to do something lasting. If they're in the process of building a new home anyway, they want to look at planning for an EMF shielded home. So you can have durable protection built in from the ground up for really lasting and most effective , uh, shielding against whatever may come in the future in terms of manmade , um, electromagnetic fields. So I've been offering those services through this company for some time now. And then just briefly, <laugh> , I've been personally involved in hiring and supervising personnel for over 40 years. I've had direct responsibility and worked as a consultant in hiring and selecting people for over 40 years. I worked in industry for a time. I was in a company that achieved the top five of the Fortune 500. I was with that , uh, company for 15 years. And while I was there, I was in a number of different management positions. I had advanced training in candidate assessment and hiring, which I believe has a bearing on helping you choose who you want to hire as an EMF consultant. I also have owned an executive recruiting franchise, so all day long we were qualifying and recruiting candidates first time . But I think , I think the thing that makes me most qualified to do the work that I'm doing and my passionate interest in writing that article I mentioned, and in getting people plugged in in their local communities, is that I almost lost my life to EMF poisoning. And I've lived to tell about it. So now I've dedicated , uh, my career to helping others in this area. So I'd like to say something here to begin with as we start to learn more about what makes an excellent EMF consultant and how you can find one in your area. I would say that excellent consultants are where you find them. And what I mean by that is there are many paths to becoming an effective EMF consultant. I think we all have a desire at some level to just say, give me a title or a certification name, or a , a registry or something that will guarantee that a person who has this , uh, degree or this certification or whatever is going to be an excellent choice for an EMF consultant. And unfortunately, in this area, <laugh> , that's not the case at all. There is no certification program that is guaranteed to produce qualified consultants. We could actually probably talk about that point alone for an entire hour. But , um, yeah, I really mean it. There is no certification program guaranteed to produce qualified consultants. You see, bad consultants can come from a good training program, and there are also many excellent self-educated EMF consultants I've worked with personally would consider to be among the best in the world. And like other professions, unfortunately, there are charlatans in this field, and I'd really like to help you be able to avoid and to spot those. So, as I mentioned at the top of this podcast, you're going to need to learn enough about the topic of EMF specifically assessment, remediation, and consulting in order to identify good candidates. And you know what, as you think about how you chose your veterinarian, how you chose your barber or hairdresser, how you chose your acupuncturist, or you know, whatever, your car mechanic, it's driven really little by what the certification on the wall says and driven a great deal based on how well that individual does the job that you need them to do. And EMF assessment and remediation is much the same way, and you already have the skills and abilities to choose the best. You just need to learn a little bit about what this practice looks like. So I have not yet met an EMF consultant who didn't have a strong technical background. However, the technical background alone is not enough. I've personally seen engineers. Now, I don't have anything against engineers in that , uh, aforementioned company that I worked for. I worked with many engineers all day and loved it. I love engineers, so I'm not dissing engineers, but I've worked with , um, or I've seen engineers of all stripes, including, you know, I might have thought electrical engineers would be the best at doing this job of EMF consulting, but I've seen engineers of every stripe, including electrical engineers who I wouldn't consider qualified to do this work, ditto with physicists and other scientists. These are people whose knowledge and experience in in these areas are way deeper than than mine, but their knowledge in going through those programs is not specific to EMF assessment, remediation and the business of consulting. So there are three core strengths needed to be an excellent EMF consultant. It's the ability to reliably make an accurate quantitative assessment. That means an assessment by the numbers that's reproducible of the magnetic fields, electric fields, dirty electricity and radio frequency radiation in any living environment. And we've recorded a number of podcasts going into a lot of detail in each of those areas. If you'd like to learn more about any of those in particular, the ability to separate internally generated versus what I'll call environmental exposures. So what I'm talking about there is when you go into somebody's home, believe it or not, we do it to ourselves. We, we pollute ourselves with harmful, manmade electromagnetic radiation. Quite often, even people who are very aware and up on this topic, when I go into their homes and I do an assessment, I'll find things regularly where they were unaware that they're sort of poisoning themselves, if you will. So a successful consultant needs to have that ability to separate what is internally generated, usually by the occupants of that dwelling, but certainly within the building itself versus the environmental exposures, what would be the ambient exposures in the local environment? And next is remediation skills . So using the results of the quantitative assessment, the ability to develop remediation options for reduction of exposure to each of the types of EMF . So if you are looking at controlling electric fields, then the process for doing that is gonna differ. Then the process of controlling, oh , magnetic fields or, or some other type of EMF . It's , it's very specific to the type. So using the results of the quantitative assessment, the ability to develop remediation options, and it's always up to the customer. You know, as I mentioned earlier, some people just wanna be proactive. They're perhaps satisfied with just having a reduction of their current levels. And that's very often the case. And there are others who , uh, consider it , uh, an urgent, mandatory , uh, priority in their life to get down to the lowest levels possible. So remediation skills have to exist in a range of options that can accommodate to the greatest degree possible, both types of customers. And then the last area is consulting skills. Boy, we could talk not only for the rest of an hour, we could talk for an entire week on what are consulting skills. Um, in fact, just for fun, I did a, a search on the internet in preparation for this podcast and, and looked at the definition according to many different people of what a consultant is. And I found almost no consistency and people talking about what the role of a consultant is. So my first role, and the reason I went to that, what became a member of the Fortune five , um, company, I went there specifically for one particular job, and it was a job of being a consultant. They had the finest consulting program I could imagine. So I was, I was really blessed in that way. So let me share my definition of the consulting skills relevant to , uh, this, this particular area. So it would be the ability to deliver assessment, remediation, communication training, and problem solving skills to customers in a timely and effective manner in order to help clients achieve their desired exposure levels. So you see, just having the ability to do an assessment and just knowing a bit about remediation is nothing without the ability to work with actual people to make that happen , um, to establish that vision, to execute on that through other individuals , um, through tradesmen and whatnot. So also, many of the most cost-effective remediation techniques incorporate what I think could fairly be called behavior modification. So for example, it's doing things a little bit differently than you have done them before, and all of a sudden you have a measurable reduction in your electromagnetic radiation exposure. So how do you, how do you accomplish behavior modification with people? Well, it involves encouragement. It involves teaching. It involves demonstrating a number of those type of skills. So that, in my mind, all comes under the role of a consultant. Also, the ability to effectively communicate with tradesmen who are going to be involved in either the remediation or in the designing and building of a an EMF shield at home. You need to really be able to have the ability to speak the language of a tradesman who doesn't care and has never heard of EMF anything, but being able to translate things into terms that they're familiar terms of art within their, their specialty. All right ? So some of the qualifications that I would look for for an EMF consultant, a local consultant would be, and this is so critical. Boy, I , I'll tell you what this is , um, the ability to, to look at a job and really take a penetrating view of what is required to be successful in a particular job, what, what core competencies a person has to have, what, what's the fabric that they're made of in some cases can be fundamentally different. Uh, let me give you a quick example. I, I worked in, as I say, I had a recruiting company, and we worked in high tech , and we also worked in, in the healthcare arena. So I worked with helping companies find specifically talented and available regionally pharmacists. And I had occasion to talk to hundreds, if not thousands of different pharmacists, and understand what their lot in life was like, what their, what their job was like and whatnot. And I remember the first time I spoke to a , a pharmacist who was really looking to do something quite different, and he was trying to find something that was really different than any pharmacy job that, that I was aware of. You see, he had , um, entered a career which had what I would call a load diversity of task . Um, it can be said fairly. I think that in a retail environment, the job of the pharmacist is a lot of count, poor peel and stick. So counting the pills, pouring 'em into the bottle, peeling the label off, and sticking it on the, the bottle, and I'm not demeaning the , the role of a pharmacist. Those things must be done, and they must be done with integrity to ensure the safety of the , um, patient. And then of course, there are the consultations that happen , um, with the , the patients. And, and those are absolutely critical. All of these things must be done with fidelity and integrity and , um, over and over and over again. But outside of that, there's relatively little diversity of tasks. So this individual had gotten into a , uh, and gone through five years of education and gotten himself into a , um, field where he thrived on a high diversity of task . So this is one of, this is an example of what I'm talking about, of , of something that is, is key to get right, to be in a particular job. So the one I'm, I notice about people who are successful in EMF consultant is they have a characteristics you can, you can divide the entire population of the world in their work habits into people who enjoy being of service to another. And then there are people who don't particularly take joy from being serv of service to another. I'm not making a, a value determination here. I'm just saying that there are fundamentally two, two different types of, of people, and of course some are peaked in their dislike for being, for doing that, and some are peaked in their desire to do that. But really, to be successful in this job, you , you need to take fulfillment in being of service to others. It is , uh, it is very much understanding what is important to the customer and doing your best to deliver on that. And that's where you can take your satisfaction is being of good service to others. So as you look at candidates, people that you might want to hire, look for that characteristic. You know, they, they shouldn't be all about dollars and cents and conquering the world and building a huge organization, but more about , uh, perhaps humility and, and , uh, sincere develop , uh, sincere desire to be of service. I would look also for excellent communication skills. If they can't communicate in a pre evaluation , uh, telephone call, which I'll tell you more about in a minute, if they, if they don't evidence good communication skills, then that's gonna be a big, that's gonna be a big problem. They're gonna have to have strong technical skills. As I mentioned earlier, I've never seen a really good consultant that didn't have solid technical skills. So if, if they kind of fudge and ham and haw on being able to explain the difference between an electric field and an RF field , um, that's, that's probably a bad indicator if they have a social media presence. And by the way, some of the best consultants in the business don't because they've been damaged and they can't spend a lot of time on computers. But if, if a particular consultant does have a social media presence, and based on what you've learned from, you know, learning about EMF and, and how things work and what electric fields and magnetic fields and whatnot are, if what they're saying on their videos or, or on their podcast don't seem to jive with what you understand to be true about EMF , uh, that's probably an indication that their technical skills aren't where they need to be solid grasp of appropriate assessment techniques. Um , whoever you hire needs to have professional quality meters. I I've not yet really seen a good review, you know, online where somebody's talking about what is a good meter , um, in my mind, it, it needs to be about accuracy as well as ease of use and price of course. But specifically, and everybody focuses on rf, I , I think it's vital to have the meters that your consultant is using have plus or minus six DB over the range, the reporting range of the meters that they're using at , at a minimum for accuracy. And in the power line frequencies, when you're talking about electric and magnetic fields, I think it's important to have a flat response curve. So a meter that has a flat response curve for , uh, over the entire , uh, reporting range of that device. Professional meters are different fundamentally than consumer meters, because they either should have a third party accredited calibration certification capable, if not available, or the device should be, should have been individually calibrated to what's called a traceable standard during the manufacturing process. That that's what it really means. Now, there is a type of RF meter that's used by a small minority of people who work in this field, where they'll have you reach out with your hand and touch the, where the antenna would be on the RF meter, and you're therefore using the, the body of the, the person as the antenna for the RF meter. And I, you know, I think it's personally, I think it's kind of a gimmick, but the , the comment that I wanna make is, I don't believe these types of RF meters can be calibrated. And if they can't be calibrated, we can't be certain of their accuracy. So you might want to avoid , um, you might wanna avoid that. Now, when you're interviewing, you wanna make sure that people evidence, you know, a very strong knowledge of where, why, and when. They should measure each type, the different types of EMF . In order to develop an accurate non-native EMF analysis of a home environment, they'll need to have solid grasp of remediation techniques. So all remediation techniques must show, you know, there's gonna be a before and after, right? Otherwise there would be no need for mediation , depending on whether you're talking about dirty electricity or whatever it may be. You wanna measure, initially you want to take a final measurement of the intensity of the radiation, this will show you then your, your remediation effectiveness, and you'll consider the before and after , um, increase in intensity of other high use areas. This is a pet peeve of mine because what I would consider to be poor quality consultants will perform remediations that are permanent in nature. And while they may produce a lower radiation state in a targeted bedroom, for example, they have the ability to inadvertently increase radiation intensity for other occupants of the home or other areas in the home. You may spend a lot of time. So, so the basic strategies, and we've talked about these in previous podcasts for remediation, are removal or the partial removal of radiation source. It's always the best strategy where appropriate, because, you know, if you take away the source, you've got no radiation at all. The second basic strategy is increasing the distance. And we've talked about the inverse square law and why this is, so the third, and it is always the last choice, or at least I believe is , should always be the last choice, is shielding. So in a purpose-built EMF resistant home, you can offer permanent shielding for the entire structure, no risk whatsoever increasing radiation in places inadvertently and with non purpose built homes. My opinion as somebody in this business is , should be looking, if you have to do shielding, you need to very carefully consider what you're doing. And , um, temporary shielding would be a good first option to consider rather than permanent changes to the electromagnetic response of the structure itself. What I mean by that is, if you're using, for example, shielding paint, you know, that can't be removed, right? If you paint over shielding paint, you've just changed the color, you haven't changed the underlying , um, characteristic, the shielding characteristics. So anyway, so there are three types of consultants, and I want to go through the pros and cons of each of those three for your consideration. So the local consultant, which is what my focus is, I believe what's generally best for a community and the nation as a whole, it strengthens the local EMF community. You know, EMF consultants are paid to do the work that I've talked about doing, but very often they may get involved on a volunteer basis in helping to educate the public. Or if you have a local advocacy group that's working to limit the spread of wireless radiation or whatever, if you hire a local professional in your community, you're supporting the ability of your community to have an asset that can perform that kind of work. The second pro associated with a local consultant is they will know the local environmental considerations which affect EMF better than anybody coming from the outside. So in the area in which I , uh, practice in the inland northwest of the United States, I can name at least six factors in the local area that are different than, or maybe different, much different than consultants deal with from other areas. So going with a local qualified consultant, you're gonna have the benefit of that. Now, timely availability can be critical as well. And this is something that's not always thought through. I kind of outlined the variety of different needs for an EMF consultant over time, you know, the home evaluation, then maybe a future purchase down the road of a, a new home or a piece of land and a need for an evaluation then and there. And then there's a possibility you may want one day to build an EMF shield at home. You can also have follow up visits that are needed , um, after an initial assessment. And you may have, if you're in that category of people who need on an emergency basis to get to the lowest EMF level possible, you may need what I would call an emergency response. And I'm not talking about a 9 1 1 response. I'm talking about getting a qualified consultant out there as quickly as possible, and , um, you know, the same day if possible, or the next day hopefully. And then with a local consultant, that's going to be the most possible, right? Also, face-to-face training is possible in face-to-face mentoring. Uh, as far as the cons of a local qualified consultant, there aren't any that I know of. <silence> Let's look at the next, and the next is a, a part-time traveler. So they have a territory somewhere they call home, and that's where they practice most of the time. But they are willing to travel. They may enjoy traveling to other places to do EMF assessment or, or other work. So there are pros and cons according to, you know, this type of a , um, a consultant. The pros are none really, versus the qualified local resource. If your local resource is truly qualified, then there's nothing to be gained in bringing somebody in from the, from the outside. Um, the cons are, you may weaken the fabric of that local community. So you , you'll be exporting dollars , um, out of the community, and you'll be exporting the specialized knowledge base. And remember we talked about how there are other needs within a community, and they may be , um, offered for free, you know, community awareness or working with advocacy groups. Somebody who travels from another area and comes in for a day to help one particular client, and then leaves. He's gonna take that knowledge and expertise and ability to help on his, on his off time back home with him when he goes, they won't know the local environmental considerations as well as a local resource would, of course, because they're not from that area. You know, one of , one example of that is smart meters. I would say maybe 95% of the, and , and I'm guessing, I don't have a specific number here to report, but I'm guessing 95% of the EMF consultants, the qualified consultants in the United States would have no idea what to do with the type of , um, smart meters we have in the county in which I live. They're based on a different technology, and some people are just completely unaware of that. So that , that's an example of a local environmental consideration. It's also likely to take , uh, a bit longer to arrange an initial assessment. For example, you know, they, they won't be able to get out that same day certainly, and it may be a few days or a couple of weeks before they're gonna be able to get out just based on, you know, there's, there's an overhead associated with travel and booking flights, and do you wanna pay for a last minute flight or do you wanna buy the flight two weeks in a , in re in advance? So that's something to , uh, consider additional costs, of course, including time and travel. So you , you can expect to pay that consultant something for their time while they're traveling, as well as all their, you know, lodging and rental car and air travel and whatnot. And these costs, you know, we talked about, other than the initial assessment, if you need a follow-up visit and you want that same consultant to come out again, you're , you're gonna pay again, all of those costs, future relocation or build boy , um, same thing. And it may be impossible, well, to have an emergency response, right? I mean, I can't imagine somebody being able to get out the same day or the next day , um, or doing face-to-face training or face-to-face mentoring, which, which would be available for a , a local resource and for land purchase or home purchase, you know, usually you've signed a , a deal or you're, you're wanting to sign a deal, and if things are moving quickly in the real estate environment, you need somebody to get out there right now and do an assessment. So you don't buy a bunch of EMF problems with that new land or the new , uh, home. Alright ? So that, that covers it for pros and cons with the occasional traveler. Now, there is a relatively new phenomenon in the EMF , uh, consulting world, full-time travelers, and this is the way they work. Um, according to my understanding, I've never worked with one, I haven't had that experience, I've never hired one. But my understanding is that they, they continuously take requests from across the nation for assessments, and then when they reach a critical number that would make it worth their while to do the trip, they'll then blanket a specific area with assessments and, you know, sort of tightly schedule and, and , uh, deliver assessments sort of back to back , to back to back . And it works out very well for, for them, for the, the travelers doing this, I'm sure , um, the pros versus a qualified local resource, I would say none. You know, if that resource that you have locally is qualified, there are , there's, there is no benefit to doing that. The cons are, it has the potential to weaken the local economy, as we already discussed, with the periodic or occasional traveler. And then something more with, with, you know, coming in and batching up and, and really sort of , uh, scraping the cream <laugh> off the top, you know, coming in and doing a whole bunch of assessments. This could potentially a force , um, qualified but less well known local providers out of business. And then you're back into that cycle of, you know, now when somebody local is needed , uh, either for others or for yourself in the future, or , uh, for community support or advocacy or whatever , um, a problem , uh, exporting money on a much larger scale, exporting specialized knowledge on a much larger scale. They won't know the local environmental considerations as well as a local resource. Of course, they might take a great deal longer to arrange the initial assessment if ever. I mean, if you're living in a, a , an area with a small population density, you may never accumulate enough other people in that area who want to have this service done for them to ever get out there. I don't know. You know , like I say, I've not done this myself. I have not used one of these people, but just sort of an understanding of how I think their , the business works, that would appear to be a , um, liability. The initial assessment could be more expensive. The follow-up visit would possibly be one time only, and the provider's convenience. So they might go through, do all the initial assessments, and then they may come through again at a later point in time to to cover, you know, retests or whatever. But it might only be a one shot deal, and it may be at the provider's convenience. Now, for a future relocation or a build , um, they , the , the business model is not to come out just for a one, one person need to my understanding. So then the , the following services would not be a part of this paradigm. An emergency response follow on face-to-face training, follow on face-to-face, mentoring future land or future home purchase, timely assessments , uh, to support that. So now based on all of this, this is the what you need to know about this specialty, and you need to take this, this information and knowledge that I've shared with you. And then we're gonna go through how do you find the most qualified person in your area? And if you need more information, as I've said on magnetic electric RF or dirty electricity, there are previous podcast versions that deal with those in more detail. So how do you find the best local con EMF consultant? I would suggest doing an internet search with the following terms, insert the name of the largest , uh, the nearest large city, or if you're in a relatively rural area, the nearest large city's plural, plus the term in quotations, EMF evaluation. That should get you started. And you should see , um, people who are offering the service for that city and they're offer offering EMF evaluation, those websites should come up. Now, some people might use the, the term EMF testing instead of EMF evaluation. So the next thing you'll wanna do, you'll wanna make a list of all , uh, the providers in the area. And if you don't find in the nearest large city, you might have to then start in a concentric circle going out in, okay, the , the next largest city, beyond your immediate largest city, and go through the search process that way, your next objective will be to speak directly with the person who's going to be performing the evaluation . And I would suggest that most people are, in my experience, willing to have a brief conversation, 10, 15 minutes for the purpose of asking a few questions, and then scheduling a , uh, a consultation if, if needed. You need to speak to the person who is actually going to perform the evaluation. So you need to speak to that person , um, specifically because how else will you evaluate their skills and abilities in the areas that we've talked about if you, if you don't talk to that person. So I would consider, if you're not able to talk to that person in particular, I would say that's an automatic fail and suggest that you might want to move on to the next candidate. Now, use what you've learned about EMF through episodes one through 10 on this podcast and whatnot , for the qualifications that we have discussed herein, everybody's gonna have a different style of interviewing, different questions that they would ask, but take another listen perhaps, and what we've talked about so far, you might want to, for example, ask a few questions about remediation techniques and make sure they're not just gonna come in, paint your bedroom black for shielding paint and call it good, right? You might wanna make sure that they're using professional equipment and , and what that means with regard to the , uh, the ability to, to go back to a nor a known source or have a certain level of accuracy over the entire range. Or you might talk to them about, say, you know, smart meters, for example. And you know, what , what do you do in general for , for shielding a smart meter? And if they give you remediation techniques that are based on the physics based ideas that I've shared with you of removing the source, or, which is probably not applicable in a smart meter, but , uh, removal of source , uh, or temporary removal of source, followed by increasing distance, followed by shielding. And if whatever area you question them in, they're not sort of in that ballpark talking about those types of things , uh, that would be something definitely to note. Um, in your selection process, you'll want to ask about availability and price. So it's important to know, based on your priority, when can they do the evaluation and what it will cost and what is included. So beware of , um, uh, beware of people who are not all that they appear to be. So there are, unfortunately, some people who are practicing in this area, and they don't use what I would call remediation techniques that can show any kind of a measurable decrease in radiation exposure. And certainly if people are majoring in harmonizers and devices, little dots you can put on your phone or things that you can put into your water or, you know, whatever that has no apparent tie to removal of source, increase of distance shielding or other sort of physics based , explain to me exactly how this will work. And more importantly, be able to show a before and after reduction of radiation intensity. So you might want to be careful about in your conversation as you get to know these people or in , in looking at their website, if they're specializing in those types of things , um, you might like to stay with measurable changes in the electromagnetic environment. And I have to confess, when I was really sick, <laugh> , you know, as much of a tech technology background as I have, and as much as I know about EMFI was grasping and I was vulnerable to good, what I would call advertising copy. And I, boy , I'm ashamed to admit this, I went out and I bought something that cost a lot of money, and it was beautiful to behold. And that , and like I say, the story, the ad had a great story to it, and there was even somebody I respected that was promoting this, this thing, well, when I got it, I couldn't measure any effect whatsoever that it had on the measurable manmade EMF in the environment, none whatsoever. So anyway, good consultants are able to explain exactly how a remediation technique causes a reduction in exposure, and it needs to be measurable. Now, if you're given an indefinite timeframe, you know, I can't schedule a DA a date right now, I might consider that to be a , a negative on a , you know, trying to find the right person. Shielding, as I mentioned, especially permanent shielding last resort needs to be carefully considered, choose a consultant you feel can best meet your needs in your timeframe for an appropriate price. Now let me throw another consideration in here. Now, if, if you are in that population of people who need to get to as close to zero as possible, as soon as possible, and you're willing to make, you know, changes in your life and you, you, this is an absolute priority as opposed to say the family that's just looking to be proactive and perhaps lower their, their exposures, but it's, it's not the defining priority. If you are in that, that first group that I talked about, I'm gonna offer the following. So here's, here's an opinion. All else being equal. If you're a person who needs to reduce the exposure, must reduce your exposure as a personal priority. Choose a consultant who's been damaged by EMF and is living to help others because I'm not the only one <laugh> . And like I say, all else being equal. I mean, if it came down to two candidates , um, consider choosing the consultant who's been damaged and is living to help others. And the reason is what I've observed is they will have a more profound appreciation for the work and a more profound appreciation for the necessity of getting down to what others might consider to be a ridiculously low exposure level. You'll have no , none of those issues. Um, if you're able to find somebody who's been , um, sort of been through this already. All right , so now we're at the sort of end of the how do you find a, the best qualified local consultant. And so hopefully by going through this procedure, you will have found somebody in your area who demonstrates through the interview that you've given them and your knowledge of EMF and the things that we've talked about. They've, they've demonstrated an understanding and an ability to, to operate in a way that's going to be helpful. I can't guarantee their performance. I'm just doing my best to share an opinion as to how do you get close to the right person. So hopefully you found that person through going through this process, but it may be that you've come up empty, you've talked to a number of people who are practicing, but you can't find one that you view to be a competent local consultant. There is one final option, and I wanna outline that option quickly. So if you can't find a local person that you feel would be qualified to help you through at least your initial assessment, here's what you need to do. You need to go to the nearest room in your house that has a mirror, look into the mirror, and it's gonna have to be you. And this was the challenge that I faced when I became sick and I first learned about EMF problems and assessment and remediation. There wasn't anybody, still isn't anybody within 500 miles that I know of that would be a good choice to, to help with that. So it's gonna have to be you and it's not impossible. Um, here's what it would look like to begin with. You are gonna want to make an assessment of where you are now, and this will be called a remote assessment. You gather the data, you take specific pictures, you send me the data, and I will make sense of the measurements and develop a remediation plan for you. And we can work together, and I'll work with you to help you find local resources to put that remediation plan in effect. So you will have an advantage over any of the other options. It'll involve a little pain, but you're gonna learn a great deal in the process. So let me, let me do my best to give you the pros and cons associated with this approach. The pros are, if you must reduce exposure to non-native EMF as a life priority, this is the best long-term solution and skills that will serve you the rest of your lifetime. You will have control of the priority and the availability because you'll make yourself available on a priority basis when you need an assessment. And once you've been through it and received some training, this is something that you'll be able to repeat when needed. You will also be strengthening the local EMF community through your new skills. The meters that you'll need to acquire will be of use to you. They'll be of use if you'd like to share them with family, with friends, maybe you'd like to help your family and friends do assessments in their, their environment. You know, perhaps over time, even an opportunity to help others who are needing assessments. Um, people that you don't now know potentially even a , uh, financial opportunity. Now, it's another pro in this, is that it's continuous. It's a never ending opportunity for spot checks. So if something changes in your environment, if somebody brings a new appliance in, if , uh, you have a neighbor moving in next door and you just want to make certain that something hasn't changed, you can do that immediately. You won't need to have to pay for a consultant, any consultant to come in to make spot checks, for example. And you'll have the ability at least to do the preliminary presale land and new home purchase evaluations through the same process. Now, if it's something complex, it depends on where your level of skill is at the time when you look at land or , um, home purchase as to whether you'll be able to handle the whole thing, but you should at least be able to do the, the preliminary. And another pro is that the remote evaluation costs about the same as an average local assessment. So assessment costs vary depending on part of the country, how much competition there is between EMF consultants and whatnot. I'm gonna take, you know, a stab at this. We don't have a , like an industry survey that helps me, you know, say that, you know, a hundred consultants were surveyed and this was the average, but I think the average is around $800 , um, for , uh, home assessment. So your remote evaluation cost is about the same as a local , um, assessment. Now the cons are of course the upfront cost of the meters. We've talked about that in previous episodes and what constitute reasonable meters, but it's gonna be about a thousand dollars for a reasonable set of meters, and it will take some effort on your part. Like I said at the beginning of this podcast, nobody is born with the knowledge of how to do a , an appropriate EMF assessment and a remediation. Nobody's born with that. Everybody who does it had to learn at some point. And learning does have a certain amount of frustration sometimes. So that is a potential con as well. And you're not going to know what an EMF consultant would be, would consider to be the , the known , uh, differences in your local environment. So it may take a , a bit more time working remotely with me to, to find those. It all comes down to measurements of the different types of radiation in the home. And if there's a problem, it'll manifest through those measurements and then together we can, we can figure out what that is exactly. So I've done my best here to give an idea of how you might go about to give my opinion of how you might go about finding an excellent or the best EMF consultant in your area. There are three different options that I discussed. Having a local resource that you view as qualified, working with , um, a traveler, either somebody who's willing to travel from another location, who, you know, does it as only an occasional part of their business or a sort of a more full-time traveler. And I tried to outline as best I could, the pros and cons for each of those three. And then of course, the idea of if you can't find what you need based on your specific needs and your geography, then the best EMF consultant in your area might be you. And there is a viable way of doing that. It begins with a , um, remote assessment. I'd be happy to help you with that process. I hope this has been a helpful discussion and of benefit to you, and it's been , um, great to spend some time with you. If you'd like to get in touch with us at EMF Remedy , you're welcome to do that@mfremedy.com. And there's a contact , uh, form there that's available. Otherwise, we'll look forward to seeing you in the next podcast. See you next time.