#97 Gary Lee Duncan, Unheard & Unseen Conversation, Part Two

If you haven't already heard part one of this series, you should start there for the full context of this conversation.

 In part one Gary told the story of his awakening – the sudden awareness that synthetic EMF was at the heart of his suffering, along with synthetic chemical exposures. 

In part two, we begin to explore the intriguing parallels between Gary and Keith's lives. Gary shares what led him to leave his lucrative career as a "cabinet maker to the stars," where his journey took him next, the nature of the exposures he encountered, and how his health steadily improved as he gradually followed the advice to eliminate synthetic chemical and EMF exposures from his life.

Experiencing relief for the first time since his suffering began, Gary embarked on a "new life" free from pain in the wilds of Western Colorado, 30 years ago.

Gary also shares his thoughts on the calculus of electromagnetic healing, considering sensitivity, resilience and one other factor I’ll let you hear on the interview.

We conclude this segment on a somber note, one that I won't reveal in writing. I want you to experience the news just as I did during our interview, hearing it for the first time.

Chapters

• 0:01 Gary Lee Duncan
• 10:23 Health Effects of Age and Chemicals

Transcript

Keith Cutter: 0:01

All right, if you have not heard part one of this interview series, I suggest you start there. This is part two of Gary Lee Duncan unheard, unseen interview, where Gary told his story, the story of his awakening, the sudden awareness that synthetic EMF was at the heart of his suffering, along with synthetic chemical exposures. In part two we begin to explore the intriguing parallels between Gary and my lives. Gary shares what led him to leave his lucrative career as a cabinetmaker to the stars.

Keith Cutter: 0:46

Where his journey took him next, the nature of the exposures he encountered and how his health steadily improved as he gradually followed the advice to eliminate synthetic, chemical and electromagnetic exposures, experiencing relief. For the first time since his suffering began, gary embarked on a new life free from pain, in the wilds of western Colorado 30 years ago. Gary also shares his thoughts on the calculus of electromagnetic healing, considering sensitivity, resilience and well, one other factor kind of humor healing considering sensitivity, resilience and well, one other factor kind of humorous. I'll let you hear. On the interview, I have to say we conclude this segment on a very somber note, one that I won't reveal in this introduction because I knew nothing about it and I only heard about it when I received the recording from Gary. So I want you to experience the news, just as I did during our interview, and consider what that means in the context of how Gary's living and his age, living and his age. So I hope you will very much enjoy Gary Lee Duncan.

Keith Cutter: 2:10

Unheard, unseen interview, part two Coming up. Well, gary, you and I we're going to have to keep a little tally here of all the things that we have in common and talk about those at a later date. We both love helping people with electromagnetic poisoning. And now I hear about you on the commercial radio side getting an FCC license. I was on the amateur side getting an FCC license for amateur radio and like you I was told all the dangers of electromagnetic radiation. Interesting that they seem to have removed that from their modern programs. But anyway I didn't absorb it or I didn't believe it, it or I didn't whatever, until it was far too late and I got to say love cabinet making I had a chance to spend a summer with James Krenov one time, but let's put all that aside, we'll get back to the EMF focus.

Keith Cutter: 3:35

So you were really sick and you had a very profitable business going there in Hollywood and your health was improving, but, as you say, you could never quite get on top of it. And then Dr Roland Hallsworth was able to perform an accurate assessment and, obviously, an effective remediation and that's really key two things to find out what the synthetic radiation that's causing a problem is, and then what can be done about it, if anything, in the particular home. So it sounds like that remediation would have put you in a new place and I'm curious if you could continue the story and let me know what happened after that, and were you becoming more sensitive or less sensitive over time?

Gary Lee Duncan: 4:33

becoming more sensitive or less sensitive over time. Probably the real clarification might come from breaking this down into the blocks of my story. First of all, prior to, let's say, 1993, which is when I moved out of Hollywood to Montrose, colorado. Prior to that time I had gotten sicker and sicker and sicker. I'm working in the cabinet industry, breathing LA air, terrible diet, terrible lifestyle, toxic stuff, new cell tower, half of a block down the street and I had my little tiny micro. My RV, parked in the cabinet shop parking lot, is exactly underneath the glide path to the Burbank Airport. Quite literally, when the landing jets would fly over my trailer, I could probably reach up and flip the rubber tires when they went overhead. So radar exposure and heavy equipment and cell towers, and you know it was hell. That was a lot of money, a lot of fame and a lot of accumulative sickness, with absolutely no information or knowledge at all. I'd gone through five MDs. They knew nothing. All of a sudden the whole thing fell apart. It just fell apart. This bulletproof job that I had went south fast. The entire LA building industry went into recession. My father was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer in Colorado. I just dropped everything and moved back to Colorado. So I'm sitting in my trailer in Colorado, across the road from the Montrose airport and their radar and landing craft, and out my front window is a signal tower on flat top, mesa.

Gary Lee Duncan: 6:23

Well, that was the time when I started meeting the right people. That's when Caroline Metzler came into my life and talked to me about cleaning up my diet, getting the chemicals out of my life, and then, a year later, dr Hallsworth brings in the EMF information. Well, what happened from that point on, starting with this sudden awareness of the fact that electricity was causing this horrible inflammation in my sinuses, I started doing what Roland and Caroline told me to do, and I would get rid of this and get rid of that. We can't just sanitize our lives instantaneously. We're changing belief systems, we're changing lifestyles. We can't just sanitize our lives instantaneously. We're changing belief systems. We're changing lifestyles, we're changing location, we're changing purchasing everything, little by little, over a period of, I'm going to say, three or four years. I started doing what they said reduce the EMF, roll in, loan me his meters, I'd take it around, go, okay. Well, this is a problem. This is a problem. Jerk this, get rid of that, tone that down, shield it, change your diet, and over that period of time things got consistently better, at the same time that what I found is the cleaner I got. That what I found is the cleaner I got, the more reactive or cognizant of my reactions to both the chemical and the electromagnetic poisons became. So you could say that my sensitivity was increasing as I got deeper into recovery.

Gary Lee Duncan: 8:07

Fact of the matter is, it was probably always there at the same time, but the real crux happened 10 years later I mean, we're talking 10 years of hell when, all of a sudden, this unbelievable eruption in my life a confrontation with an alcoholic landlord who got violent. I had to get a sheriff's restraining order to protect myself. I wind up out on the wild land. The third day I woke up, had a cup of coffee and I'm sitting there going. Something's missing. Something's missing. And all of a sudden I laid down the cup of coffee and went yeah, it's the pain. I was now completely away from the chemicals and completely away from the electromagnetic fields, in the wilds of western Colorado, in the bottom of a canyon, and for the first time in I don't know how many years 20 years at least I felt normal again.

Gary Lee Duncan: 9:13

This is Dr Ollie Johansson, retired from the Karolinska Medical Institute in Stockholm. This is the institute that awards the Nobel Prize in Medicine and he calls electrosensitization full-function impairment. What that means is there's nothing wrong with us. In fact there's everything right. We're having completely normal reactions to an abnormally toxified chemical and electromagnetic environment. And once I got out of that and I got into the wild land and I got completely free of it, bingo not instantaneously, like maybe two or three days, all of a sudden I was well again for the first time in my life. And that's the beginning of the story of the next 30 years of my life. That was 30 years ago and the story from there goes into the Landsteward Program and the Smart Shelter Network and the international biophysics community.

Gary Lee Duncan: 10:17

It goes an entire new life. An entire new life In terms of my resilience. It's a really hard question to ask folks. I'm 78 years old and so you have to go well. You know, definitely I'm in better health when I'm out of the fields and away from the chemicals. But the other fact of it is I'm a geezer. And so now I had a violent medical emergency this spring. I burst an eyeball, lost complete vision from a blunt injury, impact repairing my truck, and so, when you put all of that stuff together, I'm definitely more resilient to field impacts than I used to be, but am I losing or gaining ground because of the geriatrics? I don't know how to even begin answering that question stream.

Gweneth: 11:23

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