99: James Corbett on Fifth Generation Warfare

James Corbett and I chatted about the other 5G—fifth-generation warfare (5GW), which, depending on your perspective, either has nothing at all to do with the reckless spread of harmful man-made electromagnetic radiation or everything to do with it.

Although we’ll never know for certain if 5GW is responsible, I believe it's the perfect lens through which we can understand so many initiatives that otherwise make no sense. The continued exposure of children in schools, for example, to radio-frequency (RF) radiation, arguably hiding RF transmitters inside modern appliances, the normalization of 'beam forming' as a way of selectively increasing millimeter-wave (mmWave) RF exposure on an individualized basis, blue tooth 'earbuds' and hearing aids deployed notwithstanding decades-old concern for breaching the blood-brain-barrier, ignoring non-thermal effects of smart tech and smart tech infrastructure, bombarding the entire earth from space via StarLink, involuntary mmWave RF exposure upon entry to supermarkets on and around highways as well as the most obvious assault — 'wireless trespass' into every home in a 'service area.' These are just a few things, off the top of my head, that make no sense except through the lens of fifth-generation warfare.

For this reason, I first wrote about 5GW in part four of my series, "What Exactly is 5G?" and conducted this interview with James. No, James and I didn't speak about synthetic EMF exposures in this interview, only the general topic of 5GW, including:

• History of warfare
• Historical examples of non-kinetic operations involving the use of incomplete, misleading, and/or false information
• Other resources on this topic
• Withholding legitimate information, including James' experience being 'de-platformed' from YouTube
• Defensive strategies, including protecting the space between your ears

As you know by now, I seldom stray far from the topic of surviving electromagnetic poisoning. Still, I make this exception because I believe 5GW has everything to do with normalizing personal synthetic radiation exposure. Understanding this will help you in your journey of survival. Knowing that it's not all just a big mistake, that the authorities do know synthetic EMF is harmful and have known so for some time, may help your resolve.

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Chapters

• 2:27 Understanding Fifth Generation Warfare
• 16:37 Modern Warfare and Information Deception
• 28:42 Information Warfare in Digital Age
• 36:56 Creating a Safer EMF Environment

Transcript

Keith Cutter: 2:27

If you're familiar with James Corbett's work, you can probably guess what this episode will be like. If you're new to him, well let me just say this James is one of the finest independent researchers I know, with a remarkable depth and breadth of knowledge and, as I've often said, surviving electromagnetic poisoning is half technical, but today we're focusing on the equally important other half. James Corbett on fifth generation warfare, the other 5G Coming up.

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Keith Cutter: 3:40

5gw which, depending on your perspective either has nothing at all to do with the reckless spread of harmful man-made electromagnetic radiation or everything to do with it. To do with it Although we'll never know for certain if 5GW fifth generation warfare is responsible, I do know this it's the perfect lens through which we can understand so many initiatives that otherwise make no sense whatsoever the continued exposure of children in schools, for example, to radiofrequency radiation. Arguably hiding RF transmitters inside modern appliances. The normalization of beam forming as a way of selectively increasing millimeter wave RF exposure on an individualized basis. Bluetooth earbuds and hearing aids deployed, notwithstanding decades-old concern for breaching the blood-brain barrier. Ignoring non-thermal effects of smart tech and smart tech infrastructure. Bombarding the entire Earth from space via Starlink. Involuntary millimeter wave RF exposure upon entry to supermarkets on and around highways, as well as the most obvious assault wireless trespass into every home in a quote service area.

Keith Cutter: 5:59

This wasn't hard to put this list together. These are just a few things off the top of my head that make no sense whatsoever except through the lens of fifth-generation warfare, and then all of these become very clear. So it's for this reason I first wrote about fifth-generation warfare in part four of my series what Exactly Is 5G? And conducted this interview with James and no, just to be clear, james and I didn't speak about synthetic EMF exposures In this interview, only the general topic of 5G. To my knowledge, james has not yet addressed the issue of surviving electromagnetic poisoning or the need to do so. So anyway, he talks in general about fifth-generation warfare in the upcoming, including the history of warfare, historical examples of non-kinetic operations involving the use of incomplete, misleading and or false information. He talks about other resources on this topic. James, if you don't know him, is famous for the old school practice which our main media no longer adheres to, which is quoting the sources and no unnamed sources withholding legitimate information, including James's experience being deplatformed from YouTube and, finally, defensive strategies, including protecting the space between your ears.

Keith Cutter: 8:17

As you know by now, I seldom stray far from the topic of surviving electromagnetic poisoning. Still, I make this exception because I believe fifth-generation warfare has everything to do with normalizing personal synthetic radiation exposure. Understanding this will help you in your journey of survival. Knowing that it's not all just a big mistake, that the authorities didn't really know that synthetic EMF is harmful and have known for some time. This will help your resolve. It will help you focus on where you need to apply your efforts. Here we go.

James Corbett: 9:08

Advertising campaigns and dark propaganda campaigns to try to influence your thoughts, influence what you are thinking and what you are thinking about it is because what you are thinking about is extremely important and they are acknowledging that by spending so much time trying to shape your perceptions on various issues. So simply reclaiming the battle space between your ears is perhaps the most important thing that we can do and, from there, starting to understand the broader scope of what we're engaged in and how to move forward.

Keith Cutter: 9:39

My guest today is James Corbett CorbettReportcom. James, welcome to the EMF Remedy Podcast.

James Corbett: 9:46

Thank you for having me here.

Keith Cutter: 9:47

My little niche is helping people survive the now widespread replacement of the natural electromagnetic environment that's native to the earth with a synthetic version, and so far it doesn't seem to be going very well for life on earth. But we don't need to talk about the EMF issue at all today. The reason I've invited you here is so that you can help my followers better understand, or at least begin to understand, fifth Generation Warfare from a broader perspective. Now I've already directed my followers to the essay that you've written entitled your Guide to Fifth Generation Warfare, and also your podcast on the topic. We can't possibly cover all that you've already provided there. This isn't a replacement for that, but can we give a little introduction to fifth generation warfare? Can we talk about it in general terms and maybe explore is this something new? Has it always existed? What is the relationship to propaganda and whatnot? So, with that setting of the table, james, how should we begin?

James Corbett: 11:07

Excellent. Yes, this is an incredibly important question because, as I think you understand and as your audience is going to understand, I think it very much pertains to what we're living through today. But if you're going to tackle the fifth generation of warfare, I suppose it makes sense to say what were the first four generations. So people who are interested in answering that question can look at 1989 Marine Corps Gazette article entitled the Changing Face of War into the Fourth Generation, which defined the first four generations of warfare Going back hundreds of years.

James Corbett: 11:37

You have the smoothbore musket and you have the tactics of line and column, basically militaries lining up on a battlefield and moving in set linear fashion, and that was the predominant form of warfare, for example, back during the Napoleonic Wars, etc. Moving forward technologically speaking. You get the rifled musket, you get breech loaders, you get barbed wire, machine guns and other things that make that line and column tactic a little bit outdated. So you start to get second generation warfare. So you have indirect fire, you have mass movement, again still in linear formation, but at least a slightly different form of warfare. So you have indirect fire, you have mass movement, again still in linear formation, but at least a slightly different form of warfare. Moving forward from that, you get the third generation of warfare, which is the tactics of nonlinear movement. The idea here would be the Blitzkrieg from World War II. You have mass movement, but in nonlinear form. You have indirect breaching and trying to infiltrate army lines and crush enemies that way. So essentially you have these technological upgrades that change the nature of warfare.

James Corbett: 12:41

Then you get into fourth generation warfare, which was not so much a technological upgrade so much as a change in the form of warfare that was taking place. In fact, perhaps you could say indirectly it is the result of technological upgrades Insofar as after the nuke it's unlikely that you're going to get armies, at least superpower armies, lining up against each other on a battlefield and firing at each other. Now you have to think of warfare in a fundamentally different manner, and an interesting thing happens warfare starts to decentralize. As I believe the original Fourth Generation Warfare article authors argued, warfare used to be a decentralized sort of operation in which kings and lords and noblemen would have to round up various people to essentially recruit them to try to come wage this campaign or that campaign here or there, and it wasn't a nation state that was being ordered by a top executive, so much as it was bands of people that were being cobbled together to fight against other bands of people. Well, at any rate, that is the sort of what is happening with regards to fourth generation warfare.

James Corbett: 13:47

It's not so much nation state versus nation state so much as guerrilla warfare and these types of Vietnam War and after Vietnam War, types of insurgency operations and other things that don't necessarily correspond to warfare that we have seen or that we would think of in World War I, world War II terms.

James Corbett: 14:04

That brings us to the doorstep of fifth generation warfare, which is a controversial term. For example, the authors of that fourth generation warfare paper reject the notion that there is such a thing as fifth generation warfare. But there are people who have argued that there is now a fifth generation that we've entered into, which is now again it's not nation state versus nation state, or at any rate it could be nation state versus its own citizens, but certainly the line between civilian and military and military operation versus other types of operations has all been blurred and essentially what is happening now is a battle of perception and information, and that battle is being waged against, sometimes, nation states against their own citizens, sometimes against foreign citizens. Sometimes it could be corporations or other non-military entities that are engaging in this type of battle. But that's the picture of what is emerging and I think once we start to put that in the context of what is happening in the world around us today, it starts to make sense of some of the chaos and tumult that we've lived through in recent decades.

Keith Cutter: 15:10

What kinds of modern examples can you share that might indicate that something called fifth generation warfare even exists?

James Corbett: 15:19

Right. So one good example of information warfare that's fairly uncontroversial because it's completely out in the open and admitted at this point was something that I pointed to in my presentation on fifth generation warfare. About four years ago, the Canadian military launched a training operation that got out of control, or at least that's what it was deemed after the fact when it was ultimately exposed by a mainstream Canadian newspaper. And this training operation involved military officers forging a letter from the local provincial government the Nova Scotia provincial government that was warning citizens of a certain area about the possibility of threats from wolves a pack of wolves that are on the loose and this was completely, 100%, totally made up. There was no wolf threat, but these letters were sent out and they were forged forgeries meant to look like they were coming from an official government source, and beyond that, they actually also did other operations, including playing over loudspeakers recordings of wolf sounds and other things, presumably as a way of testing the ability to actually inculcate fear in a population. As I say, this got exposed and then reported on and the government had to come out and say, oops, this was a military training operation that got out of control. But that's the type of information warfare that we can at least imagine is taking place on a number of different levels, by government, sometimes, as I say again, against their own citizens. That's one example you could put your finger on. But I would argue that, essentially, in this era in which it is not a king or a queen making a declaration that we are now at war with the French or whoever it is, and then a bunch of people going off to die for king and country, now we live in the enlightened age of democracy and all of this in which there has to be at least some pretense, some fig leaf, of a reason that people are sending their sons and daughters off to die on some foreign battlefield. So there is always some sort of pretext or justification for warfare that is needed. And lo and behold, in this era I think we can point to almost every single major military conflict that has taken place and some sort of pretext or justification that is involved in whipping the public into war frenzy. That was actually an information warfare operation, a psychological operation.

James Corbett: 17:43

One prime example of that that I often point to is back in the first Gulf War, back in 1990, 1991, as the American public particularly was being prepped and readied for the idea of waging war against Saddam Hussein. There was some dramatic testimony that took place at the UN by an unidentified anonymous because she didn't want retaliation against her family but a nurse who was working in Kuwait at that time, called Nayira, who gave this dramatic and startling testimony about the Iraqi soldiers who came in during the invasion of Kuwait and threw the babies out of the incubators onto the cold floor and left them to die. And she tears up and starts crying about the image that was being presented in that testimony. And that was dramatic testimony and it wasn't nothing. Not only did it help to sway public opinion, but even President Bush at that time went around giving speech after speech in which he cited the testimony of this Nayira.

James Corbett: 21:32

Flash forward years later and it was discovered, and finally the truth came out, that, oh, this Nayira was actually the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. And this entire testimony and all of this was cooked up by a firm called Hill Knowlton, an advertising PR firm that cooked up this entire campaign in order to whip the public into war frenzy. And lo and behold, of course Saddam Hussein becomes the modern Hitler and we must go in and get him and then leave him be for another decade plus until Bush Jr comes to finish the job, which, of course, was weapons of mass destruction, an entire psychological operation that was being waged on the public through cutouts at the New York Times, judy Miller and others who were feeding false information to the public about Saddam Hussein's nuclear weapons and biological weapons capabilities, etc. So we see this playing out time and time and time again. That's an example of information warfare being waged by nation states and the apparatus of government against their own citizens in order to convince them on warfare, on the need for military warfare, conventional military warfare.

Keith Cutter: 22:42

It's difficult to imagine a legitimate reason for troubling the citizens in Nova Scotia in this way and causing them to fear wolves even playing wolf sounds in the forest. And that all this purposeful deception was eventually revealed is just such a delightful example of false information, together with non-kinetic action that was used for nefarious purposes. And then you gave another example of the Gulf War, and again how false information was used there. Perhaps one could even point to the Gulf of Tonkin fiction, which facilitated the Vietnam War, or the use of propaganda to precipitate World War I, for example. These examples seem to revolve around the use of either half-truths and controlling information coming from official sources, also non-kinetic action to impact the populace. Would you agree?

James Corbett: 23:47

I think that's exactly right. And, yes, there are many more examples of such information operations, specifically around warfare and the whipping public into war hysteria, that we could look at. But this goes much beyond that, in fact. I think not only are we looking at information operations and information warfare, but we're looking at warfare in every domain and every battle space, every conceivable battle space, simultaneously, including biological warfare, including psychological warfare, neuro warfare, economic warfare. Again, this is a type of warfare that reaches into every aspect of our lives warfare that reaches into every aspect of our lives.

Keith Cutter: 24:30

Yeah, so, with regard to economic warfare, the Federal Reserve currencies and the CBDCs- the central bank digital currencies. Obviously, you don't take away everybody's money, but you do control how they can spend it. That's a very real type of control over the population and in terms of the biological effects, you did have some examples, both in your essay and also the video, about how very small particulate matter aggregated in the cerebellum could be used to cause an ischemic event, also known as a stroke. So full spectrum dominance I think that's the term.

James Corbett: 25:13

That is indeed, and people should look up that term. It has an illustrious history over the past couple of decades. But essentially, yes, the idea is that dominance in any given battle space domain is not enough. You need full spectrum dominance. You need to completely and totally control all operations that are taking place within a given domain, and that is the ultimate goal. And unfortunately, as you indicate there, with some of the technologies that are coming to fruition at this point, with regards to, say, neurological warfare, that is an increasing possibility, and you point to what I've pointed to a number of times.

James Corbett: 25:48

Please do not listen to me or take my word for this.

James Corbett: 25:51

Please go and listen to someone like James Giordano, g-i-o-r-d-a-n-o, who has given many, many talks and is clearly knowledgeable about neurological weaponry and what is available now.

James Corbett: 26:08

Neurological weaponry and what is available now, as you say, the types of agents that essentially work as stroking agents to be able to create strokes, but many, many, many other types of bizarre sci-fi level technology that is now coming into view, and Giordano talks primarily to military audiences about the potential military capabilities of these types of technologies. That should be, I think, deeply concerning to each and every one of us who recognizes that we are not simply talking about. Oh, what will those dastardly Russians or Chinese or North Koreans, or pick your boogeyman of the week, what will they do to us? But what could potentially be done by our own government against whoever they deem to be a terrorist? Or essentially, as we've seen, for example, in recent years, speaking of economic warfare, when the Canadian government started literally shutting down and seizing the bank accounts of people who participated in a protest and seizing the bank accounts of people who participated in a protest a political protest that should be. I mean, that clearly is a sign of the type of world we're heading into.

Keith Cutter: 27:16

And, at least to some degree, what we've seen in the last few years, namely that the nations of the earth all of them move together in a coordinated fashion to the harm of their citizens. The information that was provided and the information that was withheld it was truly remarkable, beyond the pale. We haven't talked much about withholding of information, but you've personally experienced the phenomenon of what is now commonly called deplatforming, james. Could you say a bit about your experience with that?

James Corbett: 27:51

So I had a YouTube channel that at the time that it got deplatformed, completely scrubbed, had something like 596,000 subscribers, something along those lines, so it had a fairly large reach, but it was scrubbed from YouTube back in early I want to say 2021 at this point I can't even remember exactly when it took place but at any rate, after several warnings about oh, you cannot talk about this ongoing medical event or you cannot say anything that is contrary to the CDC or WHO guidelines and recommendations, and of course, I was simply reporting on very, very many things that now it is perfectly acceptable to say, even on platforms like YouTube, but at that time, saying it was verboten. And I always take pride in the fact that the third and final strike against my account, the one that got my channel shut down, was a podcast of myself talking about the philosophy of science and quoting Karl Popper and Thomas Kuhn and writers like that, because of course it was about the science and the way that that has been framed in recent years as a type of cudgel to be used against dissenters, information dissenters, as it were. But yes, I know a thing or two about deplatforming.

James Corbett: 29:10

I did have a secondary YouTube channel, which also got scrubbed and then magically just reappeared one day. I didn't even get so much as an email from YouTube or anything about it, why it had been scrubbed, why it was suddenly back. So it is still technically up there, but I do not post to it anymore because YouTube is a controlled information space. They will only let you talk about those things that they want you to talk about, and when you start treading on toes or going too far or when there is a crisis event, your information will be scrubbed. And the more that people congregate on centralized platforms that own your followers and subscribers and your only way of contacting the people who want to follow your work is through some controlled third party medium. That is insanity. That is lunacy. That is the way to ensure that you are going to be censored at some point in the future if you talk about anything halfway interesting.

Keith Cutter: 30:04

So I want to leave a few minutes to talk about some solutions here, but I want to amplify what we've talked about so far Control of the information flow, false supply of information, partial truths from official sources, non-kinetic actions and precluding those who have the integrity to come forward from sharing accurate information broadly and the combination of these tactics can really have a profound effect on the recipients if they continue to consume information from tainted sources.

Keith Cutter: 30:39

In fact, you can't help but be affected by the repetitious nature of such content. This is not to say doom and gloom, and there's no way out of this. For people that are following my work. It's all about how you can take control, for example, of exposures to synthetic radiation. By taking appropriate action, you can find out what you're being exposed to in your own home and you can reduce personal exposures. That's something real that you can do, beginning right now, and it will give you lasting benefits. As far as the broader picture maybe don't consume, well, I'll let you, james, if you could give a little summary at the end here about what people can do right now, today, to avoid becoming a casualty of fifth-generation warfare.

James Corbett: 31:31

Well, thank you for that. Yes, I am a realist, but I am not a doom and gloomer, and if I was a doom and gloomer I wouldn't be here doing this. What would be the point? So, yes, I do not think the situation is hopeless, but I do think we have to understand the nature of what we're facing and the very serious nature of what's going on. So I try to do that in my work and I have had the benefit of doing this now for 17 years online, which I think in internet years is something like 170.

James Corbett: 31:59

So I'm now officially an old gray-haired man when it comes to the topic of dissemination of information online and what is possible. And we have gone and I remember it vividly because I lived through that era certainly back in the early 2000s, when the idea where did you get that information from the internet was kind of a punchline and the internet and online media was completely and utterly poo-pooed by the mainstream media pundits, to the point where obviously now you will have episodes of the Joe Rogan podcast that get orders of magnitude more viewers than your typical CNN or MSNBC program. So there has been definitely a marked shift in public attention and perception and the ability of the average guy sitting in his living room in Japan to talk to millions of people around the world. It's a crazy and interesting time that we're living through, and I've often likened it to a second Gutenberg revolution. Now with that comes all of the dangers of a Gutenberg revolution and the dangers of the crackdown that inevitably comes from that. So, yes, I think people need to be thinking quite carefully about the ways that they are using or being used by this information communication technology and unfortunately, it is easy to get caught up in going from the old corporate media paradigm where you would just listen to the talking heads on the nightly news or read the newspaper and that was good enough to people who will now just tune into a handful of independent online media creators and that's good enough.

James Corbett: 33:34

Unfortunately, no. If we want to really understand what is going on in the world, it does take time and energy and commitment and triangulating information from a number of different sources and going out of the echo chamber, etc. So it is not I'm not going to sugarcoat it it is not an easy process to truly understand what is happening in the world, but it is one that is incumbent on all of us to the extent that we want to leave a better world for our children that we start engaging in. So, yes, information warfare is happening.

James Corbett: 34:02

We are all targets in the information battle space domain and there is a reason why governments and corporations and others will spend untold billions and billions, maybe trillions of dollars a year, ultimately in various out-in-the-open advertising campaigns and dark propaganda campaigns to try to influence your thoughts, influence what you are thinking and what you are thinking about.

James Corbett: 34:27

It is because what you are thinking about is extremely important and they are acknowledging that by spending so much time trying to shape your perceptions on various issues. So, simply reclaiming the battle, the battle space between your ears, is perhaps the most important thing that we can do and, from there, starting to understand the broader scope of what we're engaged in and how to move forward. Well, I have a lot to say about that and I've been saying it over the course of 17 years, but at the very least, I certainly do. I do have faith in the ability of people, once they have reclaimed their own mind and understand that they are in this warfare situation, to step up to the plate, to meet the challenge and to actually start to overcome these information operations.

Keith Cutter: 35:13

All right, fantastic. Thank you very much. For my followers that might not be familiar with your work, I would recommend a couple of things that might be of interest. So James has something called how Big Oil Conquered the World. I think this is a nice place to start for folks who are following me to be followed up with why Big Oil conquered the world. Those are two documentaries that James has put together, out of many documentaries, I would add, and you can access these on the CorbettReportcom website. James is reader-funded, so if you would consider funding his work, that would be great, and there is one way you can do that fund his work with a recent training product that James put together, where James mentioned Gutenberg. I did avail myself of that project and, James, I can't remember the name of the media course that you put together.

James Corbett: 36:18

It's called Mass Media a History.

Keith Cutter: 36:20

Yes, yes, thank you. And you will learn there that the news is a construct, and how, after only 25 years, even Gutenberg's press became much less free, and how that came about, and also much more. James, thank you so much for your time today. I really appreciate it.

James Corbett: 36:43

Thank you for having me on and thank you for talking about these important subjects.

Gweneth: 36:56

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