111: EMF Snake Oil Salesmen

 One of my least favorite things in the world is people who prey on ‘my people’ – those whose lives have been marked by much suffering from synthetic EMF exposure. 

It’s hard enough for one to make their way through the labyrinth of reversing electromagnetic poisoning without evil-doers emptying pockets by promoting useless products and wacky health hacks through forever EMF Summits.

During our recent conversation, Daniel Vasku and I talked about the EMF ‘snake oil’ salesmen.

Chapters

• 2:27 Snake Oil Salesman Preying on Vulnerable
• 12:49 Real Help vs. Harmful Harmonizers

Transcript

Keith Cutter: 2:27

One of my least favorite things in the world is people who prey upon my people, those whose lives have been marked by much suffering from synthetic EMF exposure. It's hard enough for one to make their way through the labyrinth of reversing electromagnetic poisoning without evildoers emptying pockets by promoting useless products and endless wacky health hacks, through forever EMF summits, through forever EMF summits.

Keith Cutter: 3:18

Daniel Vasco and I talked about the snake oil salesman during our recent conversation Coming up, so let's end with Snake Oil Salesman. Shall we I don't know if we've ever talked about this, and I should let people know that you have begun to help people with EMF issues and and I haven't, so I haven't talked to you about this. It's rewarding, isn't it?

Gweneth: 3:58

nice, yeah, yeah yeah, I, I can only imagine like, what, what, what, what do you?

Daniel Vasku: 4:05

uh, I would love to be able to do more work on on that level. I mean, I'm I'm restricted by where I can go, so I've been doing it partially, uh, online. That's why I'm also so keen on making this whole internet thing work, because I've been able to help people from a distance that that were in in in severe danger, like literally struggling to to be able to keep functioning and carry responsibility for their offspring. So, yeah, there's a deep reward in that to keeping it real in a way, because I've been so open to solutions, because there's not much guidance out there in the world to how to deal with all this stuff, and so everybody brings forward these things Try this Organite, have these disks, take these cards, this harmonizing kind of quantum scaler, whatever thing. Take these droplets, take these medicines, like they're. I mean, it's an endless slew of of things that can help.

Daniel Vasku: 5:22

And if you're, you know, like, like, we've been suffering and it's painful and it's it, it is, it is severely limiting. I mean, I've tried a lot of different stuff and I've kept an open mind to it, even though I'm, you know, very scientific and skeptical in a lot of ways. I'm also being brought up to be incredibly open minded and look beyond the confines of what is right in front of us. So I I don't see myself as a you know, as a narrow, narrow skeptic, but, um, I'm quite done with it with, with all these pseudo answers and and gadgets that are being sold for incredibly high amounts, or sometimes even thousands of dollars, just to sort of give people the sense of, like, this is this will make things safe and now you can use your devices without an issue. And I take offense to it. Yeah, it is offensive, it's hurtful, it's painful and it's putting people in danger and deep, deep harm. Anyway, sorry, I just went off there.

Keith Cutter: 6:29

Yeah, no, I mean, if synthetic EMF is harmful and I think you and I both believe that it is then you give somebody some magic, something scalar, harmonizing whatever shungite I don't know, and you tell them that you're going to be okay. Now you got a diode on your phone or a stick or whatever. Well, the placebo effect is real, first of all, and secondly, like I mentioned much earlier on this conversation, becker found a generation ago that most well in his time he stated it categorically no animals or humans can feel this. You and I know different, but most people can't feel the damage in real time. So it's not very nice for people to prey upon the people that I am trying to serve with legitimate and you're trying to serve with legitimate assessment and legitimate physics-based remediation strategies that actually result in a measurable reduction of intensity of exposure. And yeah, it's egregious, and y'all who are involved in that you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. So is that putting too fine a point on it?

Daniel Vasku: 8:03

No, no, no. I. But you know, I I do think that some people like don't they actually believe in their stuff, they you know when they like.

Daniel Vasku: 8:14

When I was up on there, on that that mountain, um, somebody had this tiny home park down he's. Do you mind having a quick look? Well, yeah, I'll have a quick look. And, surprisingly, even though he had solar panels and an inverter, the AC was kind of well encapsulated I think it's because of the double metal walls, and they were grounded, so it was actually pretty reasonable. I would have expected a lot worse, until I came up to the sleeping space and there were two of these organite pyramids that are obviously being put there to keep good energy, but they had little lights on them.

Daniel Vasku: 8:56

With a USB charger, with an AC adapter on it, they were putting out this huge field, completely polluting and poisoning this whole bedroom, you know. So it's like, yes, I've got these beautiful organized pyramids that cost I don't know how much to make good energy, but actually, on the physical level, you're poisoning yourself. So, yeah, I think it does pay for people like us to just cut through the bullshit and look at where it is, because it is actually dangerous to just let it be. You know, because there's a big tendency of people to just, you know, well, we don't know if it could be, could be helping, right. So why, why so negative? And why are you dismissing something that you maybe don't understand? And so that has kept me in a, in a state of like, yeah, yeah, maybe, maybe you're right, but after helping that that kid and really seeing there's a disabled kid with with real issues from radars, from from the ships going by that there is like that there is no, and they tried all the shungite and all the kind of stuff and it did not help. What helped was this pure practical remediation, getting him in some as much of a safe space as possible, that that that worked and everything else.

Daniel Vasku: 10:19

I'm kind of like, wow, yeah, sure, you know, like you said, the placebo effect will help a lot of people Like, oh, I do feel better, yeah, because your mind, you could also just do a breathing exercise and you probably would feel better. Do a bit of yoga and you probably would feel better. It's just as much as this. Whatever $200, $500, $1,500 gadget, $200, $500, $1,500 gadget. And maybe there are some active electric field outputting devices that could work because they're sort of suppressing, pushing out what is going. But in the end people report that they have a real hard fallback from that. You know it works for a while, but then your body gets used to it and then you realize how much extra electric field you've been exposed to. So you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm unapologetic to that. Like let's call out the stuff that is that is snake oil. That is just preying on that and I understand that people are really convinced of it because they've seen positive effects of it. But that doesn't mean it's working. It just means that you've given somebody something, a hope, a bit of a, and maybe, like you said, if they pay a lot for it, surely it must work and that that'll give you a bit of, but I, I think, I think it's not.

Daniel Vasku: 11:44

It's a lot clearer with the people that I hate to say, that actually feel the stuff, that are are actually, uh, in in such a far state that they are getting joint pains, tinnitus, that are feeling the bodily harms of it. They don't take the bullshit because they know like well, well, yeah, I tried it, it doesn't work. It's mostly the people that are just on the edge or not feeling it quite yet, that seem to be you know, and trusting a lot of this stuff because, well, they don't have the bodily experience of it. But I might be overstepping. But, like I said, I want to be less apologetic about that because I think it's too, too dangerous to just let it slide in such a sense, and I've I've, I personally have suffered too much to just put up with it anymore yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that point about, uh, people who have been profoundly damaged.

Keith Cutter: 12:42

You don't see them with the pyramids and the harmonizers and all that stuff, because we all know it doesn't. And some of us and I think I've admitted this to you before I bought a harmonizer a long time ago, before I really got into the assessment and remediation stuff, and it cost a a thousand bucks and it was at a time when I had lost everything. I didn't have a thousand bucks, I'd spend it anyway wow and um, yeah, so I'm, I'm sympathetic, I understand.

Keith Cutter: 13:13

I think there's this cultural thing and we pick it up from television and media and and from, uh, physicians, whatnot which is you can get yourself in trouble medically and then there's just going to be a magic pill that you can take and everything's going to be all better. It's not exactly that, but it kind of rhymes with that, the idea that you can have this horrific electromagnetic environment and I'm going to put a little tiny pyramid over there and it's going to make everything better. Um, and, and I just I deal with people all the time going into their homes and look at their degree of disability, and it's taken a number of years and it's taken everything that they have away from them, and now they've got this condition and now they're, no, no longer able to work, and they've got a five thousand dollar hoffy table size harmonizer. That's the big brother of the little thousand dollar one that I, um, in my foolishness, bought years back.

Keith Cutter: 14:16

And this breaks my heart, that's all it. Just, it just breaks my heart. I hate's all. It just breaks my heart. I hate to see I understand, I think, all the factors and how that works, but it just breaks my heart to see people not get real help when they need it.

Gweneth: 14:42

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