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147 Mold Healing = Reduced Electrical Sensitivity, Hank Allen Full Interview
My second interview with Hank Allen of Eagle, Idaho centers on Hank’s claim that his electrical sensitivity dramatically diminished after he reduced the mold burden in his body using the approach described in Neil Nathan’s book, Toxic. So dramatic was the improvement that Hank was able not only to attend his daughter’s high-school graduation as he had hoped, but also to take the family on a vacation to Italy where he felt well. We also talk about faith, the current status of the lawsuit supported by CHD, and Hank’s view that changes to radio-frequency safety guidelines — and he believes that broader support for the president and his HHS secretary would be beneficial. Finally, we clarify something from episode 83: Hank’s reports of atrial fibrillation episodes that he says occurred at particular hours and while positioned on a line between cell towers—fascinating!
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My second interview with Hank Allen of Eagle, Idaho centers on Hank's claim that his electrical sensitivity dramatically diminished after he reduced the mold burden in his body using the approach described in Neil Nathan's book Toxic toxic. So dramatic was the improvement that Hank was able not only to attend his daughter's high school graduation, as he had hoped, but also to take the family on a vacation to Italy, where he felt great. We also talk about faith, the current status of the lawsuit, which was supported by Children's Health Defense, and Hank's view that changes to the RF safety guidelines and broader support for the president and his HHS secretary would be beneficial. Finally, we clarify something from episode 83, Hank's reports of atrial fibrillation, episodes that he says occurred at particular hours and only while he was between on a line between cell phone towers. Fascinating Coming up, All right, All right. So I would like to welcome back my would-be neighbor from Eagle Idaho, my friend in Southern Idaho, Hank Allen. Hank, thanks for rejoining us on the EMF Remedy Podcast.
Hank Allen:Hey, nice to see you again, t, and thank you so much for having me on your podcast, and a lot's happened in the last year and a half since we last spoke, so I'm excited to share.
Keith Cutter:I know I can't believe how much time has gone by. So last time we talked, we talked about a number of things. I think today, what I'd really like to focus on, if it's all right, is your health journey, because last time I talked to you you were acutely sensitive to radiofre radiation exposures and you're having atrial fibrillation episodes, which are not a trivial matter, and so you had had a number of episodes of that.
Keith Cutter:Interestingly, you had mapped out that the occurrences seemed to happen, in the majority, during certain hours of the day and in between cell phone towers. So I thought that was terribly interesting. You were involved in a lawsuit and whatnot, with the help of Children's Health Defense. But, like I say, I'd like to focus on the health journey, because you were very sensitive at that point in time. So take us through all the things that happened prior to June 3rd of this year, when you were able to take, incredibly, your family on a vacation to Italy and had a wonderful time. So we want to hear how that was possible and what enabled that for you.
Hank Allen:Well, I'll start off, keith, and say that, praise God, this is a total God thing and this journey that I've been on and to get where I am right now, it's truly been the leading of the Holy Spirit that has brought healing to my family and brought me to where I am today. That has brought healing to my family and brought me to where I am today. And God that we serve is just awesome. And I'm telling anybody out there if you're going through the struggle and you feel like you're carrying the weight of the world and you're in this just you're feeling like you're fighting against your spouse or people around you because you're you're sensitive to everything and the doctors won't listen to you and you feel like you're just being drowned with fatigue and everyone's saying you're crazy. There's one person that loves you, there's one person, and that's God, and through his son, son Jesus Christ, he saved my life and this has been his leading in my life that has brought me to where I am today. So all the credit goes there, but I'll I'll share you kind of what he's done in my life and where he's led me and this path, and it's just awesome and it makes me feel so um humble when I look backwards and see this. You know, when you look backwards on your life and you see the path you've gone down, I don't think it would have changed anything because I needed to be shaped and I was, uh, about as rough of a stone as there was out there and he sure has been knocking off the you know, the big rough chips and by no means am I done in my path and my journey and I'm still a work in process, but it's just a beautiful thing.
Hank Allen:So I think last time we spoke about a year and a half ago, I was still having AFib and I was really really focused on this tower and what I ended up doing is I shielded the side of my house that was facing the tower I think I shared with you. I put the paint and the Y-shield paints and I put the clear window film on my windows and had my meter and I was able to drop the radiation inside my house to about 80% of what it was right. I significantly cut down, so I had 20% of the radiation from outside the house to inside the house and then I also put the window film on my, my art, my suburban that I was driving, to make sure that when I'm driving around town suburban than I was driving to make sure when I'm driving around town I didn't get, you know, fried passing cell towers and um, and that kind of gave me a place to just have a safe Harbor so I'm not getting whacked by the cell tower. And then, um, while children's health defense and um, uh, uh, mccullough law firm was working on a case and putting this ADA case together for this lawsuit, they sent out an RF engineer and all of my hypothesis that I had about the two cell towers and my house being in direct line and and you know the topography um, he came out and did a three-day study at our house and verified exactly what my hypothesis was was true a three-day study at our house and verified exactly what my hypothesis was was true that between the hours of, I think it
Hank Allen:was like 3, 30 and 6 o'clock during peak cell tower hours. Right on this line between the two cell towers there was an increased radiation of almost what like tenfold um and that's what was causing my my. It was this high powered wireless transmission between the two towers. Unfortunately, our our case was never heard in court. It was. It was denied. They didn't want to hear it. So we appealed it and the ninth circuit again turned it down. So but that ended up being a good thing Because it kind of put this in the situation. It put me, it put my heart in a situation where, okay, we're not going to to find I'm not going to find any kind of justice through our court systems and we were going to have to figure out a different way. So I was listening to a big supporter of Robert Kennedy when he was running for president and his make America healthy again, his whole campaign. Everything was about, as a conservative Christian jumping to the left and going and supporting Robert Kennedy here in Idaho was a big thing. You know, for me to put on my blue hat and say, okay, I'm back in Kennedy.
Hank Allen:One of the guest speaker was this guy, neil Nathan, and he's out of California. He wrote a book called Toxic and I was listening to Neil's interview and he said that he's getting people well. He goes oh yeah, yeah, we have a lot of patients that come in and they're emf sensitive and we're getting them well. And I've been searching, I've been praying for those words for 19, almost 20 years, for somebody to say oh yeah, we know how to do this. Not, we can get you 70 well, but but we were getting people fully recovered and that really stuck. So literally I got off the that interview or I got off that podcast and went to Amazon. I bought this book right here. It was a Neil Nathan's book, toxic and I started reading through it and honestly, I kind of cheated. I actually downloaded the Audible version so I listened to it in the car while I was doing a road trip and then I bought the hard copy book and went through because there's so much information in there and I put my little tabs on it and everything. That was all the symptoms and everything.
Hank Allen:And listen to the storylines. I'm like, oh my gosh, this is my story, this is what's been going on with me, and before I moved to Idaho, I lived down in California and we were living in a moldy house down there. It was during the 2009 recession. We had lost our house that we owned down there and the bank took it back. We had to move into a rental house and the rental house was a sick house and it had a stachybotrys mold that was in the hvac system and it was being blown throughout the whole house. I got really sick back then and, looking backwards, that was kind of when all of this you know, emf sensitivity started coming on and it took about over a five-year period of living there to where my health started declining and then it never kind of came back and it was this moldy house that I was living in.
Hank Allen:And so Neil Nathan that's what his book is he says most of these, most people who come in and see him who have these, uh, emf sensitivities or have, you know, lyme type symptoms or these chronic illnesses where you feel like you just, um, have chronic fatigue and you just never get well, you can't get he says it's a mold exposure and I didn't realize that once you live in a moldy house and you move out, that mold still lives inside of you. So for my case, I actually had three different fungal infections going on. I had a systemic fungal infection, I had a fungal infection inside my sinus cavities, I had a fungal infection inside my sinus cavities and then I also had yeast overgrowth or candida in my gut. And when fungus or yeast is exposed to RF radiation it makes it bad. It gets really pissed off and starts releasing microtoxins. And these microtoxins that are released by the fungus is really what was knocking out the poison, and it was. It was killing. So, um, according to Neil Nathan, the way you have to go at it, you go in and you've got to kill the fungus and the yeast and you've got to get all that stuff knocked out so that it stops producing poisons. Or, if you're living in a moldy house currently, you have to get away from that moldy house, get away from all that stuff and at the same time, you know, get away from the heavy RF exposure so that your body can heal while it's killing that that mold. And that was great.
Hank Allen:So I read the book. I had the knowledge in here, but unfortunately Neil Nathan is retired. So he wrote this book and said I'm going to, you know, hang up my shingle, I'm going to retire, enjoy life, but I'll consult. So if you have a doctor that lives next to you and your doctor, I'll talk to him, but I'm not going to talk to patients. Well, so I live out here in Idaho and I went on to Neil Nathan's website and he has a list of practitioners that he works with. Nobody in Idaho and a lot of them are in California. They're really expensive, and so I was kind of came to the crossroads, I couldn't get help. And also Neil is very straightforward in his book that you don't want to just go to your western doctor, your general practitioner, and say, hey, put me on some antifungals, because it'll probably end up killing your liver or your, your kidneys, and there's a lot of risk to go along with it, because once you start killing this stuff, the toxic load on your body, as it's killing off the fungus, is really really high. So you have to do it properly and you have to kind of have somebody that kind of watches you, because a lot of people when they have die off or they take stuff, especially when we're so sensitive to this stuff, um, it could be, it could be really a painful process as you start the killing process.
Hank Allen:So I kept looking and praying about it and then my wife comes home, uh, from her, one of her bni you know, small business networking groups she goes hank. I'm in this, in this, this group, and literally this is like that week when I'm like just I hit a dead end. I'm praying to god, I'm all please bring some kind of you know direction here. And she goes. This guy gets up at this bni meeting and he's talking about his wife, who is this young, you know, beautiful, fit, 20 something year old woman and she starts having seizures, like about a year ago, and like uncontrolled seizures and they don't know where it's coming from. And he, they were struggling and it got so bad where she was having like three or four of these seizures a day and complete incapacitated brain fog and just a mess. He's going to every doctor. He's been to the Mayo Clinic, everywhere. No one could figure out what's going on. And then this local doctor that was here his name is David Palacio, he had heard about it talks to this couple. I was handing him back up.
Hank Allen:So my wife I'm going back to my wife comes home with this story and she goes Hank and then at the end of his, his, his speech it would be an eye he says that my wife just has some doctor that gave her a mold test that is kind of new and she she tested positive for mold toxicity and he goes. But I don't know what that means. He goes. But that's the first little chink of hope we have is that she has mold toxicity and when he's in the sky says he can treat her and goes, but he was the point, goes. It gets kind of weird. And so I heard that so instantly I was on my heart. I go let's call him and let's go take him out to coffee.
Hank Allen:So literally two days later my wife and I meet him and his wife and we go out to coffee and I'm telling her my story and I bring my book you know, check this out and she goes oh my God, you're the third person that told me I got to read that book and I'm all oh. And I heard her and I go, tell me about this lab that you've taken. And she said well, I think it's real-time labs and they just came up with this test where you can pee in a cup and they can check for mycotoxins. They can't tell what species of mold you have growing in your body, but they can see the poisons from the mold coming out. And so I look at her lab and I'm like, oh my God, because I wasn't aware this lab was out there. And she, she tells him all the stuff and we kind of compare notes.
Hank Allen:And it was again, if you kind of listen to god guiding your heart, and he led me to this, this person, through my wife, through her connections, and it wasn't for going out to the coffee with them and figuring this, I would have never found out. This guy, david, dr David Blasio, had just left Portland Oregon, came to Boise with his family and he was setting up shop here in Boise. By the time he didn't even have like a phone number. He says, oh, you got to call David, david's wife, and David's wife will hook you up because he's, you know, trying to help people but they're still moving in. So I called his wife and two weeks later I met with dave and he he says, yeah, I, I, I call and I consult with neil nathan all the time and we're treating people that have mold illness and I'm gonna get out of here it. It was just awesome, right, that he led me to this. So that was about a year ago that I finally had. Now I had a direction.
Hank Allen:So I meet David and we take this lab and I come back hot, I have, you know, my my numbers for my mycotoxins are through the roof with four different mold species. And he goes oh my God, hank, you must feel like garbage, because this is, this is the root cause to all of your problems. Right, here's where we have to start. You probably have other things, you probably have a little bit of wine, you probably have some Epstein bar and other things, but the, the bulk of everything that's hurting your immune system is the mold toxicity, those biotoxins. We get rid of that, then we can start looking at these other little things that are probably there and it'll make you even feel better. And so we started in starters protocol.
Hank Allen:And what's funny is not funny, but what's? Dave is also a christian. The guy who, uh, who had the wife that was having seizures, he's a christian. And, um, this whole line of people, it's, it's, it's all. I look back, it's all just god kind of leading the direction on this right and um. So we start in and basically, after I had the positive results, I started on taking binders, like it was activated charcoal, bentonite clay. And then there's some new stuff that came out I forget the name of it where it absorbs all the toxins that are going through your system.
Keith Cutter:Is that cell core? Is that what you were taking? Yeah, that's exactly right, happens.
Hank Allen:Cellcor. Is that what you were taking? Yeah, Cellcor.
Keith Cutter:Yeah, that's exactly it. It happens to be an Idaho company. Oh really, yeah, so it's Cellcor.
Hank Allen:Yeah. And then the other one was what's the green algae?
Keith Cutter:stuff.
Hank Allen:Oh yeah, it'll come to me in a second, but anyway. So I'm taking all this binder for the first couple of months and um, and then he gave me these drops, um, you put on your tongue and they open up your lymphatic system because you have all these toxins in you. And he says and picture like a like a sewer pipes in your house where the um sewer pipes are clogged. And so if you start putting Drano down your toilet and your sewer pipes are clogged, he goes you're going to have a mess. He goes you need to open up the pipes, get the rotor router down there, open the pipes before we start killing off the mold, so as a way to get out of your body. And so I take the drops to open my lymphatic system, get onto the binders and kind of get everything going.
Hank Allen:And then we started on the antifungals and these are prescription antifungals and you know I had a little die off and you know, for the first couple months it was a little bit rough, felt like I had the flu, really bad. And I was really concerned when you read the label and the precautions on antifungals it says you know, can cause liver failure and kidney failure. And so I. I asked the doctor about it. He goes that's why we're doing the binders, that's why we're doing this certain protocol, so we don't kill your liver and kidneys. And it's really important to have not just a doctor that just gives you the, the pharmaceutical, but you have the protocol that puts all these binders, puts all stuff into place so you don't whack your organs. And I go I'm kind of nervous because I've been doing this for a while and nobody's had liver failure or kidney failure. He goes we'll take care of you, hank, don't worry, god's got this one.
Keith Cutter:And up to this point, Hank, before you started taking the antifungals, it sounds like everything you were taking was naturopathic up to that point. Is that right or no?
Hank Allen:Oh, absolutely so, along with all this stuff. Up to that point, I was gluten-free. I was, you know. I moved up the aisle. We bought a little farm. I started raising my own cows so I was eating, you know, grass-fed, grass-finished cows changed my entire diet and pretty much carb free. If I ate anything that had any sugar in it or, uh, if I had any carbs, that yeast in my gut would start going off. I'd get heart palpitations and I'd wake up with a hangover and I would like it would kill, like I would just get really, really tired and almost just conk out, and so I was pretty much eating protein and vegetables and that was it, and that's been slowly over the last 15 years, just because my GI tract was so messed up and then having this fungal infection, the sugar would just make the stuff go crazy.
Keith Cutter:And then, just out of curiosity, if you don't mind sharing Dr Palacio, is that how you say his name?
Hank Allen:Yeah, David Palacio.
Keith Cutter:So is he a naturopathic doctor or is he an allopathic doctor? Is he an MD? He's an. Md An MD, okay, and what were you doing before? If you don't mind my asking, were you more of a naturopathic guy or were you?
Hank Allen:more of an allopathic guy. So my whole life, you know, I kind of bought into the typical Western thing that I don't know anything and I didn't go to med school. So when I got sick I just go down and see my local doctor and he gave me antibiotics and pat me on the butt and say, yep, this was caused, and I would go off and I thought that's just kind of how it was done. Until I moved in that moldy house, you know, 19 years ago and after seeing four different doctors over about a four-year period, that said I was crazy because there's nothing coming back on my blood tests and the fact that I was complaining of the lethargia and the sickness, but I looked fine.
Hank Allen:They said that I was crazy and it was. I mean, I was so toxic, had so much brain fog that I came off as I was absolutely crazy. And I look back at the decisions I made. I was crazy but it wasn't because I, um, was making this stuff up or as a hypochondriac. It was because I was being poisoned right, right, I understand, yeah, that's that took me to a point.
Hank Allen:At that point I had to start looking for a natural path and I think the first couple paths I went down was chiropractic, and chiropractic kind of knew about this stuff. And the next phase, after that, I was uh meeting with uh naturopaths. I tried acupuncture, um, I went to the the pink tutu factory to put those on to see if that fixed me no wait a what?
Hank Allen:yeah, no, I would have done anything I was desperate, all right anybody said, hey, I have a I something that might you know, try this. Or my doctor said and so I was taking so many supplements and I would get on, and it just felt like nothing was really doing it, like I try something and I go, oh, this little supplement works and nothing worked. I was taking probiotics, you know, and I had a natu natural path here that I was saying locally, and again he was a what's the guy's name? Klinghart. He was a doctor, klinghart, trained doctor. So he would you know, prescribe different supplements and everything. But again it was like shooting a bb gun at a freight train right wasn't doing anything to answer your question.
Keith Cutter:Yeah, yeah, sure does my. My son lived in a moldy place and he wound up um getting the mystery illnesses and whatnot, and ultimately he landed in the hospital, and so he had exactly the same experience, that the medical doctors were not able to give him any any insight, and so he had to go. He had to go elsewhere so we know, I know what that's like yeah, so, um.
Hank Allen:So now let me think where we left off with the story. So I start my treatment with with david um, and then we slowly there was there was three different phases of antifungals, you know know, prescription antifungals. And one was a nasal spray to treat the sinus not infection, but the fungal infection, I guess and another one was nystatin for your GI. I think we started there and then we did that for a couple months and then we moved on to kept doing the nasal sprays and moved on to itraconazole, which is another heavy duty antifungal, and that one this is crazy. So I started that and, um, the first week I felt kind of bad, and then I, on the second week it was the end of the second week and it was Saturday and I come downstairs, have my coffee and I'm sitting around and I decide to go for a run and I thought, well, if I can go, take a job. My wife looks at me and she goes. What?
Keith Cutter:What do you mean?
Hank Allen:I haven't. I used to be athletic and since that house I haven't done anything. I be, you know, athletic, and since that house I haven't done anything. I didn't want to do anything and it always felt like when I'd run or move I moved my head too much, that brain fog, I just felt like it was in a bubble and I just I didn't want to, but I just wanted to stay kind of steady and I kind of isolate myself. I didn't want to talk to people and so I went upstairs, I grabbed my running shoes and these shoes are probably 25 years old. The rubber soles actually cracked when I put them back on and they started running down the street. So I had to get new running shoes.
Hank Allen:And the best part was my wife's reaction. She's all, you're going for a jog, and granted, it wasn't much for a jog. I make it down. We live on like two acre lots and so I made it three doors down and had to stop and breathe and, you know, pull my side because I, you know I was so out of shape. But uh, I, I, you know, stop and then keep on going and um, I've been keeping that up now for about the last seven, eight months and so I can do about two miles without stopping and back to kind of my fight and wait a little bit, which is nice and it was amazing just by killing that fungal load.
Hank Allen:So I stayed on that itraconazole and then we did that for probably six months, along with all that binder stuff and my joints like the joint pain. They call it post-exertion malaise. It's like when you go out and work out and you come back in and you just feel exhausted, like your body and your muscles hurt. I would do anything. I'd help my wife do honey do's Just by picking up a drill and moving things. My muscles would just kill me.
Hank Allen:All that went away within six months on this antifungal we didn't know quite when the time was we killed everything the hydrochronosol was going to do. Part of the protocol is then you have to move to this amphotericin B, which is a super antifungal for the GI system, and so I stopped the itraconazole, went on to the amphotericin B and it started working on the gut. But then some of my muscle cramping came back. I started feeling junky again. So I stayed on antho for I think it was about two months and I told my doctor and he goes all right, well, he's. Obviously we didn't get rid of all that that fungus and the hydroconazole is working, and so we went back on hydroconazole and, uh, I'm actually still on it right now. I'm just I'm just at that point where I think we've killed everything. So I have another appointment with david blasio and we're going to decide when it's time to get off of this stuff all together, and hopefully we're at that point so.
Keith Cutter:So that part is um, you know what, once you go on the antifungals, you're no longer having the lab that looks at the mycotoxins from the urine right.
Hank Allen:Well, so that lab, it's expensive, it's a 500 lab. So my, my thought process is um, it's well to actually find the smoking gun, not just for me to guess am I, you know, because of my history, do I have a fungal infection? I need to know that I was diagnosed with it, yes or no, and my body's kind of telling me if I still have the fungal infection or not, right. So the most important thing to me was to have the positive diagnosis so that I I felt like I was going down the right path. Gotcha and um, now the question my wife and I ask each other is is it important to go and do a follow-up lab and spend another 500 bucks to say, okay, it's all killed and it's done, and I can tell you just how I feel that it's working and this is it right? We're going after the root cause to all these problems and it's working Right.
Hank Allen:So I'm probably guessing that eventually in the next couple of months, I have my next visit with Dr Palacio, probably next week, and we're going to have that discussion and I think you know for other people, like your listeners, to know hey, what did it do? What would it? What happened? It's probably important for the community as a whole to know. You know what happened after the protocol and did it work, so I probably will take the test, but it might be a couple months out. You know a follow-up. So now let me go backwards.
Hank Allen:So I was seeing David for probably three months and he, you know, I had to set up a kind of a goal to go probably three months.
Hank Allen:And um he you know I had to set up a kind of a goal to to go. What am I going to use as a measure of health or or uh, how's this thing going to work? And he goes. What would be success for you? And I go. Well, first, I really want to go to my to my daughter's high school graduation, and they have a big cell tower down at the high school and usually the graduations are outside and I couldn't stay there long enough to actually watch the graduation because I would get so sick. And I go. I really want to go to the graduation. And then I would really like to take my family on vacation. I've never gone.
Hank Allen:I used to be a big traveler before all this happened. My wife and I, we would go overseas and love to go through Europe and backpack, and that's what we did. And so I said I would really like to take my family on vacation, but I'm afraid to get on a plane, I'm afraid to go to a hotel that Wi-Fi and I'm afraid it's going to kill me. And he goes, we'll get you there. And he goes, don't worry, God's in control of this one. We'll get you there. And so those are my two bars of success. And so we were into it probably six months into the treatment and I prayed real good about this one and God put it on my heart and says we got you, you're going to be okay. I'm leading you on this one and so kind of like taking that leap of faith and saying I'm not going to let this sickness define me. I'm going to be a child of God and let him define me. And so we, um yeah, yeah, take your time, man it's been a tough road.
Hank Allen:So um we put, we bought tickets, we got passports for our kids and um put you bought them ahead of time.
Keith Cutter:Thank you, yeah, oh, man, oh yeah, yeah.
Hank Allen:So I was still sick and I said let's trust God on this one. And so we bought our plane tickets and we were all in Wow yeah, and it was a leap of faith.
Keith Cutter:And because you were still sensitive, give me a feel for the timing. You went on your trip in early June, is that right?
Hank Allen:June 3rd we left on a trip and so let's dial it back. It was probably in January when we bought our tickets, or December.
Keith Cutter:And where was your level of sensitivity, your electrical sensitivity, then? Was it getting better during this process?
Hank Allen:Well. So when I bought the tickets, I was already starting to run right. So I, I, I felt that, you know, the hydroconazole was working and I had a peace in my heart and and it was, um, it was the first time in 19 years where I went on a protocol and I go, I'm all, this is this, is it and and and I go. That was, you know, the holy spirit just giving this is this is it, and and and I go. That was you know the Holy spirit just giving me peace and saying this is it Right, you've gone through your, your trial, and now it's time to go and we're gonna get you. Well, and then you got to share your dream with everyone.
Keith Cutter:And here you are.
Hank Allen:Yeah, yeah, um. So it was probably back in January where we just took that leap of faith and booked a trip and I, we got on the plane down here at Boise airport, went to San Francisco and then flew into Germany and I had my little. I have a vest that I made that is lined with RF shielding fabric and I wore that and you know like, oh my God, you know, like boogeyman is going to get me, am I going to go in AFib? Is this going to give me a heart attack? And so I wore that on a plane trip to Germany. And then I got there and I was still, and you know, prayed some more and by the end of the probably the third day, I took my vest off and put it in my carry-on luggage and I didn't put it back on. And on day two we flew down to Sicily and we were, you know, in the city center and there were cell towers all around and nothing felt great.
Gweneth:And people had told me that you know when you're in.
Hank Allen:Italy the food tastes better and they're. They don't have GMOs in their wheat, they don't spray things with glyphosate and so, like I would eat the tomatoes in Europe and they just tasted like garden raised tomatoes we have here. They tasted phenomenal. These are things we get out of the supermarket. All the food tasted phenomenal.
Hank Allen:And so I tried a half of a butter croissant one morning at the hotel and I was expecting, you know, fireworks to go off in my gut and I felt fine and I went oh my, my gosh, I could eat a croissant. I haven't had a croissant in 19 years. All right, it's been a long time I've been off of this stuff. So on the second day I I woke up in the morning, I had a whole croissant. Oh my god, I missed croissant so much, right, and I'm like this is great. So then the third day my kids were having a pizza. We stopped, you know, went in Rome, right, and we had some pizza and had a half a slice of pizza and I was waiting again for you know that, like feeling almost drunk or having this, you know, horrible feeling as my blood sugars went up and it didn't hit me. So by the end of the second week I would have moderate right, I still don't want to go back on a high carb diet but I would have a croissant for breakfast with all my, my proteins and my eggs and you know whatnot, and and cold cuts, and then I would have, um, you know, maybe some pizza with the kids, but I'd always have some kind of protein with it. And, um, I was trying my wife's pastas and I would have pasta. There I felt amazing and we were.
Hank Allen:We spent three weeks and we were hopping from major city to major city. So once we got done down in Sicily, we were in Palermo for a couple days. Then we went up to Rome and I was taking the metro through Rome and we were going, saying you know, major attractions. We spent four days in Rome and then we went up to Florence, right in the city center, cell towers up on top of the four-story or six-story buildings. I felt fine. We went to Cinque Terre and then we went to Remini and then we went up and spent the last couple of days up in Venice and the only time I felt sick.
Hank Allen:We went to the place in Venice and there was a Wi-Fi router inside the Airbnb that was from America, it was an American-made Wi-Fi router and I felt sick. So I took my bag with me. I have like a fabric bag that shields it and I put the Wi-Fi router in the bag and tied it up and I felt sick. So I took my bag with me I have like a fabric bag that shields it and I put that the wi-fi router in the bag and tied it up and I felt okay and um, but other than that that was the only time I felt it. So I go, something's going on.
Hank Allen:So I came back, I did my research. Well, as it turns out, italy and is one of the I think there's six european countries that holds their rf um uh exposure limits to six volts per meter. Their power density. The max that uh antenna can can, the max power that they can broadcast at, is six volts per meter. In contrast, here in America we're 10 times that. We're 64 volts per meter on the power density that the FCC allows, and that's it.
Gweneth:And what was amazing is.
Hank Allen:They watch their food. There's no GMOs. The government there protects the people. They make sure that there's no artificial food colorings and dyes in their food. There's no GMOs. The government there protects the people. They make sure that there's no artificial food colorings and dyes in their food. The food like our bread, and when I had bread there it goes stale and gets moldy. By the end of the second day it's gone.
Keith Cutter:It's supposed to.
Hank Allen:Yeah, I know we buy bread here and you come back a month later. I can't tell if this is the bread. I have to look at the expiration date, because it still feels right and it looks good and I'm looking for mold. This is like a month old.
Keith Cutter:I know it's frightening. My wife used to make bread when we had her little homestead. Yeah, you're right. I mean, bread is supposed to mold unless you put some horrible chemicals in it to keep it from doing that.
Hank Allen:So the other thing that came when I look at these, these exposure moments All the Italians have cell phones and my wife was there, we were, she was able to work. She has her cell phone. She could send texts, she could send video images, she can receive calls, great coverage everywhere, everywhere we went On the train, we're going everywhere, made perfect calls and their maximum output is six volts per meter. We are killing ourselves. Here in America, our FCC has been hijacked and is a captured agency of the telecommunications industry and every time we, you know, come back children's health defense, had the lawsuit against the FCC and everybody goes hey, their exposure limits they're, they're. There's no rationale to it. It's whatever's going to make, be the best for the wireless industry. It doesn't protect us. And then when we bring this to Congress, they say, oh well, we need to do studies. And they tell you oh, we need more research.
Hank Allen:We don't know what it's going to be like. So our exposure limit's based on heating tissue. We're going to stick with that as our maximum guidelines and it's unknown and I go no, it really this made it very clear that if multiple European countries have looked at the evidence and they have made their guidelines based on precautionary evidence, and then for myself, who is sensitive to this stuff, I can still feel it when the, when the energy level is too high and I felt great going there. All we have to do here in America is follow what Italy's doing Right, and I know that Kennedy right now, as health secretary, he's working on the food end of this right and he's trying to to get the get the food dyes out of our food, to get the seed oils out of our food and just using basic common sense, and I think the next step that we need to let the secretary know about is that we need to go in and clean house at the FCC.
Hank Allen:The FCC has been given a mandate four years ago to revisit its exposure limits for RF radiation. They haven't done it, so they haven't done their work. So, just like President Trump is cleaning up the FBI, they're cleaning house at the CIA and they're cutting waste and there's so much corruption. Our FCC is corrupt and they need to clean house from the top down and put people in there that are going to actually look out for people's health along with, you know, making sure that our radio frequencies are properly mud out and follow what Europe is doing, because there's thousands, if not tens or millions, of people like myself that are living in these moldy houses or have some kind of mold exposure and RF radiation is like kerosene in a windstorm that just takes this fungus and just makes it go crazy. And with my background as a general contractor, now I'm a realtor down here in Idaho I would say at least 20 to 30% of used homes have had water damage of some sort in the house and all it takes is a little drip under the sink or having a second story house and hitting a sewer line. When you're putting a nail on the wall and it drips that little bit of water and you add that and you have sheet rock that has paper on it. The mold starts growing.
Hank Allen:And now someone comes and puts a wireless antenna, like a cell tower antenna, outside your house and mold, which you probably wouldn't get sick beforehand, or you put a wifi router inside your house and that starts pissing off the mold and it releases mycotoxins, and it might take a year, might happen instantly, it might take five years and all of a sudden, you go oh my gosh, I feel tired, I feel lethargic, oh, I'm just getting older. Or oh, I have brain fog, oh, I'm just getting something's going on. This is just what it's like to get older and it's hard to connect the dots and looking backwards. For me, I'm at that point and I want to share that with everyone listening to this. I've connected the dots. I'm looking back for 2020 vision.
Hank Allen:This is what caused it and there's a lab to tell you if you're toxic with mold and there's a doctors. Now, you know, through through, uh, you know, thanks of you know, nathan taking the work to, to write his book and to find doctorate across the nation that can treat this stuff. And, um, if we want to regain our life not let our lives be or who we are, you know, be a product of our sickness or illness and want to go past that and then also make this planet a better place for our children, you know, make it healthy we have to be healthy ourselves to tell our stories, and I couldn't.
Hank Allen:Before I started this, I couldn't show up at city council meetings without feeling sick for three days. I couldn't think about going to DC on an airplane and sharing my story with Congress or the White House or whoever will listen to me, and so what I would like, what I'm proposing for the entire community of people who are EMF sensitive, is to join together with one common goal, and, the way I see it, our only path is at the FCC and to have the President of the United States and our Health Secretary, kennedy, gut the FCC, take down the current commissioners. They have failed, they haven't done their work as they were directed, and we need to put in directors that will actually look at common sense, follow what European nations are doing to keep their people well, and stop looking at the benefit of the wireless industry and let's look at people's health and it's working, and, and it's all because of the lord we serve. I know that this is such a big task that, um, god can make this happen, so that's what I'm asking so your um, your sensitivities now?
Keith Cutter:are they completely gone, are Are they just dramatically better?
Hank Allen:Oh, so they're not completely gone. And I noticed like when I was in Europe it was completely gone, right, and besides that one Airbnb we stayed in with a Wi-Fi router from America. It was gone. And, like, this is kind of sensitive, I don't know, I don't want to get too, too revealing here, but, um, I was tied to a live blood analysis years ago with my, my natural path and when I was exposed to heavy rf, my, my blood would clump and they call it like rollo something another low formation, yeah and um.
Hank Allen:So that's had a lot of issues with circulation and you know you know I'm saying blood flow issues. Yep, and after my second week in italy, that was all gone. I felt like I was 18 years old again wow like literally where I'm like, why? Why am I still here in America? I felt great. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Keith Cutter:I do understand what you're saying.
Hank Allen:We want the fountain of youth here. Then we want to feel young again and I I felt that I didn't need a blue pill or anything. I'm like, wow, this is amazing, so right. So and this is just my hypothesis, I haven't done a live blood here versus a live blood analysis in, uh, in Italy, but things worked right and we are killing ourselves for no reason here. And if we could just drop that, that, that limit, and get it down to six volts per meter and we could get off the you know the big pharma, you know treadmill, start treating you know root cause illness and this, make america truly healthy again. I don't know, you asked a question. I didn't know if I answered your question because yes yes, yeah, you did.
Keith Cutter:You did answer my question. Were you able to go to your?
Hank Allen:daughter's graduation yeah, I did.
Keith Cutter:I think you mentioned that last time we talked about a year and a half ago that you were looking forward to being able to do that. Yeah, you know, I have friends all over the world who have been afflicted and people who want to be proactive against know these synthetic field exposures and so um, I contacted a friend of well, anyway, just to say that it can be really limiting when your symptoms prevent you from going to church or going to a restaurant with your spouse or, you know, participating in, you know, civic things like going to a hearing or, uh, in any kind of thing like that.
Keith Cutter:So anything that is helpful for people to to regain more normalcy in their, in their life, I'm all about that. I contacted a friend. I knew you and I were going to be talking and I said, hey, you know, I don't know hank's whole story, but I talked to me, you know, a while back, and he was able to go to italy and he was feeling great because I knew the rough sketch of your, your story but, but this first time we've really had a chance to talk about it, and she says um, oh well, of course we have better food over here in Europe.
Keith Cutter:She's in anyway, and you know I used to travel a lot when I was working in industry and I noticed it. I mean you just go to the stores. They don't color their food and their food is fresh from the farm, and the way their cities are organized you're closer to the producers and all that kind of stuff.
Keith Cutter:So, it just seems obvious that that's a direction that we need to go into. And then I was super blessed to be able to talk to a great scientist who doesn't own a cell phone and he's been studying the EMF equation for three decades, ulla Johansson out of Sweden. And I asked him the question. I said what is the safe level exposure to these fields? And he said well, this is a very good question and it's zero. The only known safe exposure to synthetic fields is zero, is no exposure at all. Nothing else has ever been shown to be without physiological effect, so I just think that that's fascinating and I think it really points to the fact.
Keith Cutter:maybe we can't afford wireless, but I'm all for reductions. But another thing that he said in that interview is that in terms of understanding where we are with these synthetic fields and when I say synthetic I mean man-made, like they don't exist in nature there is no analog in nature for RF radiation because of the information-carrying component and polarity and coherence and intensity just nothing like that in nature. So he cited a study that was done at the time of 3G and if you were to look just at the RF coming from 3G, forget Wi-Fi, cell phones well, forget Wi-Fi and Bluetooth and those types of things and just look at 3G. Just look at 3g. He said it was an increase of 1 quintillion times of background levels of radiation. That's. You know I've got a degree in mathematics and I had to think what is a quintillion? You know that's a 18 zeros and so that was that was back in the days of 3g. Obviously we're further along with insane policies like the Internet of.
Keith Cutter:Things and all these kind of things. So it's likely much, much greater than that. Now a 10 times reduction will knock one of those zeros off. So I'm all for having 17 zeros increase, but really we got to get down to zero, you know.
Hank Allen:Well, so.
Keith Cutter:And there are people in Italy, I think, in an ideal world.
Hank Allen:And when I, a year ago, before figuring out what the root cause was of my sensitivity, I would, I was 100% with you. But now I step back and I go how can we have our cake and eat it too?
Hank Allen:right, and I don't think it's realistic for us to ask um our politicians, or ask our uh, you know, our president or kennedy, to get rid of cell phones. Let's get rid of cell towers. Get rid of cell phones. It's not, it's not going to happen, right? They are so handy and um, even with our group up here in idaho I I came up with this idea a couple years ago to um everyone to boycott verizon. I said this is turn your verizon cards and go get a um, you know, a no-name phone. And we're all going to do it at the same time. We're going to go down on a certain date and everyone's going to cancel their price. And you would have thought I was asking these people to give up their firstborn child I understand right, right, absolutely.
Keith Cutter:I see it all the time I see advocacy groups. They're going to be a cell phone tower put in next to them they don't want it but they don't care if they put it somewhere else they, of course.
Hank Allen:The mantra is yes, I want cell towers, as long as it's not in my backyard.
Keith Cutter:Exactly yeah.
Hank Allen:Who calls a short straw, who gets in their backyard. So I think that finding a safe level and, like you're saying, with your example of your scientist who was looking at what a safe level is, I think, rather than if you want to do the science right, I don't think we need to go into that. I think we just follow the example of Italy or, I think, switzerland and Russia, and there's a couple other Eastern Bloc countries that all have the six volts per meter as far as their exposure limits.
Keith Cutter:I think India, of all countries, recently reduced their levels as well. So I'm with you, hank, I'm not, I'm not arguing with I invited you to be here these symptoms. Maybe you want to go and and get that lamp and see where that leads, because if it can open up the possibility and I'm not giving medical advice here but it can open up the possibility of less sensitivity, wow, I mean, who would not want, would not want that?
Hank Allen:so so, so, real quick. You asked a question. I'm going to back up. I don't think I answered. You asked me am I still sensitive? And I think I. I started telling a story. I didn't answer it directly, so I'm going to tell you that in europe I just that one time, but here, yes.
Hank Allen:So if, um, because I own a cell phone, it's always in airplane mode. But when I I need to like I'm out, become a realtor. If I have to do something and to get into a house, I have to turn my phone on and I use it for a short amount of time it's back on airplane mode, right? And so if I have to do something, I have the phone, kind of, I never have it to my ear, I have it out in front of me. And if I have to send, like a video to somebody and that thing is sending data, I get a headache and I'm like, oh God, and that's walloping me.
Hank Allen:Or if I am driving down the highway and there's a lot of cell towers, a lot of cars and it's like that prime time, and I pass by a cell tower, I feel it in my chest and I can feel it. I passed by a cell tower, I feel it in my chest and I could feel it, but it is not like I was a year ago when I would feel it. I felt like I was going to die. I thought I was either going to have a heart attack, I think my heart would start, you know, jumping all the places. I was having all these heart palpitations and it was more of a life-threatening type thing. So I know that I need to. I'm very aware of where these fields are and I picture them like these invisible laser beams going through the air. And so when I start feeling sick, I change my environment. I will give the car a little more gas and get through that beam of energy, that where these towers are going, and I don't sit there. Or if I go to a restaurant and I walk in, I start feeling dizzy and I go oh, all right, there's either mold in this room or there's heavy RF. So I excuse myself or I can just move around the other side of the table and say, hey, let me try sitting over there. And usually if I change my environment a little bit, I find that there are places that I feel better and kind of use my body.
Hank Allen:And then you know, with that, I think, going full force at the FCC and the commissioners. The FCC and we need to clean house there because they're not doing their jobs. It's a captured agency by the telecommunication industry. I know we all know this, but I feel that with the Trump administration like him or not, this is the first time in my lifetime where we've actually had a presidency that is actually doing something right. They're going after the CIA, they're cleaning house there, they're going after the Justice Department, they're going after the FBI and they're finding and they're going after the fake media and really trying to clean house.
Hank Allen:And the SEC is another one of these captured agencies that needs a good cleaning. And I think that our community as a whole, if we focus on that, because we're not going to get help through our courts, they have the deck stacked against us right now and with all the precedents and laws, we have nothing. So if you're trying to find a lawsuit, stop. You're just going to spend a lot of time and money and resources and you're not going to get anywhere. And let's all focus as one community, laser focused. We need to go after the FCC and clean house and I think, with God's help on this one and him leading the way we can do this.
Keith Cutter:I'll make a couple of comments and then I'll give you the last word. Oh, we're just coming up on just about an hour. Maybe we'll squeak in into the line. But yeah, you know, I don't spend a lot of time thinking about politics and really it's been a long time since I looked to politics for any kind of solution. But that's just me, and I do notice that the courts are not producing results with regard to what I might call EMF justice.
Keith Cutter:I published a post not too long ago, a couple weeks ago. Miriam Garcia, over at Children's Health Defense she's in charge of the EMR effort there and she made this incredible statement basically saying that even if there was harm to the environment or to individuals, cell towers are not coming down through legal action. Today I'm paraphrasing and you really should look at the words that she spoke. And so that post that I mentioned, and that's just really revealing and I'm grateful that she had the fortitude to share that you know being her experience. But it starts upstream from that. It starts with the laws, and so recently the FCC just handed itself more of an ability to make changes more quickly with less oversight, and I just posted something about that as well. And then in Idaho, here Hank, I'm sure you're already aware of this outdone perhaps by their big brothers in DC, have handed the wireless industry the ability to put basically these radiation emitters anywhere on existing infrastructure. So sort of an uncontained increase in this harmful man-made electromagnetic radiation.
Keith Cutter:So it's a mess, it's really a mess, and it involves the laws and it involves the laws and it involves the FCC, it involves the court system, and so I hope that we find our way out of it, and I'm taking nothing from what you're saying. I want a 10 times reduction in RF, absolutely. I would take that any day and anyone who can deliver.
Keith Cutter:That, I think, would be awesome. The wireless industry thing it's not really been assigned to a political party. It's like Carol Quigley said in Tragedy and Hope, that we have this interesting political system in the United states where it doesn't matter who's in control. Certain agendas just continue and we have the ability to throw the rascals out every every four years. So anyway, I try to keep an arm's length from, uh, political issues. I guess this is what I'm trying to say.
Keith Cutter:It makes sense for people to continue to watch their exposures and to be proactive about that and and to practice, um, productive avoidance, you know, measurable reductions, and I don't think either one of us are saying anything about that. Um, but, as opposed to that, but if people have to that, but if people have a history of mold, it seems like there's an incredible opportunity. And I often wonder about what it is that causes electrical sensitivity and what happens in mold, because I think they both have this myelin sheath reduction of the myelin sheath and the nerves and I wonder if that doesn't speak to the sensitivity. But I don't know, I'm not a doctor, not a scientist, don't, don't want to be.
Hank Allen:I can tell you, like just on my symptoms. Oh, go ahead, I don't want to cut you off. You're, you're, you're, you're you're doing. Yeah, I want to hear your.
Keith Cutter:Yeah. So, like I say, I I invited you on here because I really want you to share your story. I mean, I want to help people in any way that I can to deal with sort of being sidelined in life by what has become normal electromagnetic exposures in the environment. And it sounds like what you're saying is, although you still have sensitivity, it's greatly reduced and there are areas, like where you found in Italy, where you can feel totally normal. So praise God, man, that is right, that is incredible.
Keith Cutter:I'll let you have the last words and then I will say Idaho is a relatively great place and we used to live in the same town where Hank does. That whole area is pretty swell down there. So if there are people who are looking to for lifestyle change, maybe get to a state that's not moving perhaps as quickly as some of the other states in certain areas and can still offer some quality of life. I don't know if you want to share your real estate way that people might be able to contact you, but I'll turn it over to you and let you have the last words here.
Hank Allen:Sure, thank you. So I'm going to come back at you on politics. I appreciate what you're saying and, again, this is a non-partisan issue. This is not Republican, this is not Democrat and I consider myself like right on the line. You know, on some issues I lean left, other issues I lean right. And when Kennedy was running for president and he was trying to get on the Democratic ticket, I lean left. But I've always been a Ronald Reagan Republican in my life because I, you know, I vote basically on my pocketbook, but I also I like the outdoors and I like to have, you know, environmental policies that protect outdoors. So I'm on the middle of the line.
Hank Allen:And when it comes to RF exposures, this is a David and Goliath. They have more money by billions than we have. They control the media, so all of their advertising on TV, so they control the narrative. They have politicians or not probably lobbyists at every state, local and federal level, well-paid, smooth talking like these people are good, right, so we're outgunned. They own the court systems. They have enough law or precedents in court cases to win and kick our butts every time.
Hank Allen:And so I've been a part of four lawsuits now two on a local level where we've actually got our city councils and county commissioners to deny cell towers. Level, where we've actually got our city councils and county commissioners to deny cell towers. And we've gone through the telecommunications act and we have set these cases up to the t, showing that there's no gathering covers, these cell towers are not allowed here, and we did it to the team. We still lost on two different occasions here in Idaho, right. And then we had this ADA lawsuit. We lost. And then there was the our first case with the cell tower by my house. I got a local accounting commissioners to deny the cell tower. The wireless industry took our County to federal court and a federal judge overturned their decision and mandated that they put this thing in Right.
Hank Allen:So what I'm saying is us everyone listening to this we're outmanned and Goliath is too big and he's, as us, out fighting our own little battles everywhere in all these little cities across the United States trying to find, you know, legal justice. And we're running around in this, this kind of scattered little mess of people doing their own little thing, and we're losing and I'm going. Let's not lose anymore. And we have to realize our elected officials are our servants. We put them in power, we're the ones that give them power. We put them in power, we're the ones that give them power. So if we can find 500 people who listen to your podcast, keith, they could tell 500 more people in their circles and we have one voice directed at one place. The FCC needs to be cleaned out. Clean out the commissioners Our FCC is out for the wireless industry and their protection, not for our health and our elected officials the Trump administration and Health Secretary Kennedy. We put them in office to take care of us and to make America healthy again. And if everyone listening to this tells four people and those four people tell their four people, this is our only approach. We're going to the, the white house, and we want to clean house because they're under the FCC. It's a regulatory agency, but it's controlled by the executive staff, and so the executive is president Trump, with his guidance from Kennedy, and that's where we need to start is President Trump with his guidance from Kennedy, and that's where we need to start.
Hank Allen:I believe full-hearted that if we all point our efforts and everybody sends letters and everybody focuses right there on the executive and Kennedy nicely, and points out and shares their stories, and we all speak up together. We can make change. Everybody listening to this and this is across the nation and we all have one focused effort that once that has changed and now we've reduced those levels. All this other stuff, the laws that are being passed in Idaho, all these junky laws that are against us. Well, now we can have cell phones and we make sure that these cell towers aren't, you know, exposing us to excess rf radiation and to me that's the the obvious um path or the only path we have forward. So that's my come back to you. I say let's have faith and I know we can do this if we all speak up together with one unified voice um that we go after the FCC and it's time. They've had four years to act. They haven't done anything based off the children's self-defense lawsuit. So that's my comeback.
Hank Allen:And then you asked me about my business. So if anyone wants to reach out or wants to talk or they need inspiration, I want me to pray for you. My have a, my wife and I, we have a small real estate business here. We're Cedar farm real estate out of Eagle, idaho, and you have websites. Cedar farm my wife does most of the communication, cause I don't have my cell phone on and we help people you know find their homes here, locally, the treasure Valley, and find a place that makes their dreams come true. And, honestly, god's blessed our family with work and provision so that I can continue doing this and getting healthy and sharing my story and trying to help other people, not be defined by their illness, but to find a way through this. And I think, um, we can do this with God's, god's leading, god's help, um, anything's possible. Yeah, that's it.
Keith Cutter:You're awesome man and, uh, I'm really grateful uh that you'd take the time and share your story, and I just think it's really important. So, thanks a lot for being here, hank. Thank you and thanks.
Hank Allen:For you doing what you're doing and for your platform and to be a warrior like you are. We need 10,000 more people like you and what you're doing. You're doing God's work and God bless you, man, and just keep it up. And I know I feel it deep in my heart and my soul that we have a way here and God's got this one and we're all going to be okay. It's good, right.
Keith Cutter:Amen.
Hank Allen:And I appreciate what you're doing.
Keith Cutter:All right, god bless you, hank.
Hank Allen:All right Amen, so I appreciate what you're doing.
Keith Cutter:All right, god bless you, hank.
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