Book Two: The Second Treatise Chapter 5 - The Source of Your Call

The Treatises of A Course of Love: Book Two

• A Treatise on The Nature of Unity and Its Recognition: The Second Treatise
  • Chapter 5 - The Source of Your Call 

In this episode of A Course of Love with Cheryl Forrest, the book club is looking at Book Two: Chapter 5 - The Source of Your Call. We would love for you to join us in our study of A Course of Love by Mari Perron.

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SPEAKER_04: 0:14

Hello and welcome to A Course of Love Study with Cheryl. I'm Cheryl Forrest. First, a big thank you to Marie Perron for writing the book we are currently studying called A Course of Love. You might consider purchasing my book just for today, which we are using as a companion in this study. Books and meditation CDs can be found in the show notes below. A big thanks to all of you who wish to support us through Patreon. The links are below. And look forward to sharing some perks with you in the future. During this podcast, you're going to hear book club folks that are in the room with me, as well as other members on Zoom. As a book club, we've been going for many years, and we've started this podcast so that others who cannot meet with us may share the insights and the love and really the humor of this group. Happy to see you join us in all of it. Most importantly, as you begin this study with us, choose to study and listen from your heart. Remind yourself often, you are precious. Whisper to yourself from your heart through your day, with the deepest of love, I am love, I am loved, I love. So let's begin. Good morning, everyone. We are in Treatise 2, Chapter 5, The Source of Your Call. And we're going to start by taking some nice deep breaths. Nice deep breaths. Just breathing in warmth and relaxation and letting go of everything else. This is our little time here. Now I'd like you to take a deep breath and try to take another deep breath without exhaling. So keep trying to take more breath in without exhaling. And you'll notice it's nigh on impossible. So sneaky God, okay, created a pattern for us with giving and receiving. The only way I can receive more of the Creator and oxygen is by letting go. So I'm constantly living in giving and receiving. I have to inhale and I exhale. And if we... thought that breathing is an example of sharing. I'm inhaling the creator and oxygen and every other living creature. And on the exhale, I'm gifting it to everyone else. So our whole life is dependent on giving and receiving as one. But if we did it this way, if you were given a gift of a magic let's say a magic hose that had a gun on it. And you were told that the gift was every time you use that hose, something miraculous would come through that hose. So you start filling containers and you put it aside. And each one of those containers was ever that much more beautiful, but you're hanging on to it. You're constantly hanging on to it, but your curiosity and your deep longing to find what's better, what's more, what's greater, what other magical things are there. The only way you can do that is to give those containers away or to pour that hose out into the entire world. So that the more you're pouring out, the more miracles, the more wonder, the more colors, the more sparkles, the more insight, the more love goes out to the world. And the only way you can have the depth of those miracles is by keeping that hose running. Now let's change that hose and have you connected to the Creator. to the wisdom of all that is, to all that is good, to all that is love. And it's coming into you. And if you were to just hang on to it and say, mine, oh, this love I feel is from God to me, and I'm going to hang on to it, you would get a one-time supply. And that would be it. But if you were so overwhelmed with the wonder of it, you couldn't help but share it, more would be coming into you. And the more that you gave away, the more of that love, that wisdom, that healing, that insight, that genius that the Creator offers us, the more you give it away, the more you receive, the more you build upon it. The wiser the knowledge, the deeper the love, the truer the peace. It just increases. The more you're sharing, the more it goes away. So giving and receiving are one and the same. Any thoughts? I couldn't hold it all. It had to go. It had to go. Yeah. You couldn't hang on. Yeah. And there is a part of that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 7:04

Yes. I am now a soaker hose.

SPEAKER_04: 7:07

You're a soaker hose. It's leaking out of you all the time. Okay. I like it. I like it. All right. Anybody else?

SPEAKER_00: 7:17

The hose is a good analogy. Absolutely. And even holding our breath, that exercise. Yeah. Yeah. The point that you're making.

SPEAKER_04: 7:31

And it's big for this. It's big for all of us. I mean, in theory, we like the idea that giving and receiving are the same. We love that idea. But in practice, we still kind of hang on to our own stuff. All right. And... It's like going to, let's say you're having a meeting and you're with some builder and other family members about building a new house for you, okay? And you have all these ideas that you feel God given to you about windows that you want to have in your house, all right? And so you're in kind of a brainstorming meeting and you don't share it because it's your idea, because God gave it to you. So you build a fucking house with no windows. Okay, so we've got to remember, nothing is given to us to own by ourselves. It is only in the expression of it that the wonder and the miracle starts to happen. Okay, so we are on chapter five, the source of your call. In order for you to more fully understand the life that this course calls you to, we must also talk of another aspect of being called. While we have concluded that when you listen to your heart, you hear and are able to respond to the one call, this does not mean that this one call has but one request to make of you, as in a call to be a minister, nor that it will come We have talked heretofore about a calling you feel from within, as if you are listening to a new voice that would reveal your talents and desires to you. This type of calling is a calling you feel from within. comes as a light shone into the darkness and it's revelatory in nature. Other calls will come as announcements, signs, or even as seeming demands. All call you to the present where response is able to be given. All call you back to who you are as a divine being. Again, let me stress the present moment nature of being called. A call is, at its most basic level, a means of communication. If you're not listening, you will not hear the calls that are meant for you. If you are looking only for a specific type of call... Like winning the 649. What are those numbers? Okay. Specific type of call. You will miss many unlearning and learning opportunities. Thus, recognition of the different calls that may now be heard is necessary. The call that comes in the form of an announcement is the call that carries with it no ambiguity. The certainty of an announcement can alert you that it is time to act. This might be considered the highest form of call, the call from the already accomplished to the already accomplished. Such a call signals an end to learning from the lessons of the past and a beginning of learning from the new. This course itself is such a call, an announcement of your readiness for the new. This is the all-encompassing call, and it's not about specifics. Because it is not about specifics, you may find yourself still wondering what to do. Thus, you must be aware of the calls that assist you in knowing what to do. These calls you may think of as signs, like literal signposts along the roadway. They alert you to turn your attention in a particular direction. Calls that seem to come in the form of demands are often calls that come to you from within the teaching and learning ground of relationships. You may be literally called to account for certain attitudes or behaviors. You may also be called upon to call others to account for their attitudes or behaviors. These last two calls, the call that appears in the form of a sign and the call that comes in the form of a demand, are about specifics in a way that the call that comes as an announcement is not. They represent the remnants of learning from the past, the final breaking of old patterns. They may seem to signal difficult times, but they are times that must be gotten through and lessons that need to be Until you have fully integrated the truth that giving and receiving are one, you will not fully believe that needs are not lacks. It's big, big, big, big, big, big. I'll do it saying that one again. Until you have fully integrated the truth that giving and receiving are one, you will not fully believe that needs are not lacks. Until you are fully integrated the truth that giving and receiving are one, you will not realize that dependency is a matter of the interdependency of all that exists in relationship. Thus, all the calls that come to you in the form of signs or demands will be calls that assist you in integrating this learning and making it one with who you are. These lessons will bring who you are into focus within your mind through the vehicle of your heart. So we kind of, when the giving and receiving are perceived as automatic and in many ways a gift, even that sense of lack becomes part of that gift. Okay. So very soon you're not seeing things as lack, as possibilities. Does that make sense to you? Okay. Another aspect of it is, It's a point of view about lack, just as it's a point of view about growth or value. Does that make sense to you when I say it? So let's do it this way. If you had a funny feeling, cleverly described as a call, you had a funny feeling that you should check what the kids are doing in the living room. All right? You might have called it your spider sense, but it is a call. And you go in there and they have proven their artistic tendencies, okay? With anything they could find. So you can imagine what is there. So that would seem that you were called to a great lack of cleaning, okay? You're going, I don't have it in me to do this. You're discovering it's impossible It's impossible for you to clean up that artistic rendering on everything with everything. So you get to phone somebody to come and do it for you. And when you phone somebody, you start to laugh. And when you start to laugh, you change everything about you. You receive more and interesting things. I wrote down something for a class I had last night, and I'm just going to get it because sometimes when I write things, it sounds way more beautiful than when I say it. So hang on a second there. So we were talking about DNA last night and that your DNA conducts electricity. Okay.

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Okay.

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It's sensitive to electrical magnetic waves. Everything in your life... Food, music, people, your thoughts, they create an energetic wave that your DNA reads and sends out to the body. So basically, your body is showing you what all your attitudes have been. Okay. So let's say, for example, that I'm having a bad day. I'm called into the living room where... Art is being displayed all over everything I have, okay? And I go into a shock and horror, okay? Your DNA responds by shutting down your hormonal pathways into your brain, and you will feel sad, frustrated, depressed, upset. Really angry, okay? Just to think of all the work you have to do. But if you discover you're having a really bad day looking at all this artwork, and you're able to laugh at yourself and laugh at the kids, quite possibly even go in and create a little art yourself, knowing that you're going to have somebody come in and clean it, there's a high vibrational signal goes through your DNA saying, And you will feel lighter and more joyful. And it changes everything in your body in that moment. So it's your DNA, okay, that reads the state you're in and then readies and connects the body. So when you're coming from your heart and linking heart and mind, the DNA begins to open itself up to the subtler vibrations of creator, of divinity, of actual light itself so that every thought every feeling you have every word you utter every action you take programs your genes and it realigns your body so it is more capable of holding the i am or the god principle or the body of light within you can turn this body into a body of light when we're working from that place of that heart mind link and we're constantly in that giving and receiving The stuff that is a problem, a trouble, quickly becomes something curious, something we can laugh at, and something, more importantly, we're willing to ask for help with if we need to. And then that creates union. I get to have a relationship with whoever it is that's coming, possibly 10 people, to clean the living room, okay? And the conversations and the fun we share about children and changes and meeting each other and celebrating.

SPEAKER_01: 19:02

question cheryl huh um so if you go into the living room and your first reaction is shock and horror and you shut down that pathway to your dna yeah and then a couple minutes later you go oh this is hilarious does it like open back up or do you have to sort it all over yeah

SPEAKER_04: 19:24

no no it opens back up and you don't shut the access to your dna it's your dna that takes it on and And shuts the pathways to brain, to the hormonal changes, the chemical changes within the brain that puts you into despair. And the laughter goes directly to the DNA, which changes the chemical makeups, puts you into joy, and changes the whole body in it. Does that make sense? Now, it's possible with us hearing a calling, and that's going to be part of your homework. Correct. Recognize that you're actually perceiving what is a calling. So our sense of what is a calling is something other than coming from our head. OK, so anything that's talking to us from within, from where that heart and mind is there, not my list of what I think I should do, but you've all had callings. You've all felt it. And, you know, it's a different feeling altogether. OK, so when we have that calling, we want to we want to just basically rub our hands together and go goody. Goodie, I've got this to deal with. Okay, I can't imagine what the miracle is going to be. I've got, I've had the calling to go into the living room and discover, I have birthed artists. Okay, all over, I birthed them. Actually, they seem to be birthing stuff themselves all over

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the place. And

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I can find the, I can still go back to that amazing moment that I had the calling, the impetus, the God given to go into the living room before it was complete. And I can go, thank you, God, okay? You got me here on time. And that sense of humor, immediately take a lot of pictures, post it on everything there is, and then have many other families go, yeah, I know what happens there, okay? And share. It's sharing this delight of being able to walk as the God that you are, madly in love with even chaos. So

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you're

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recognizing there was a calling. I'm going to deal with lack or a problem or an issue. It becomes a creative gift. It all becomes a creative gift and you get to love your way through the process.

SPEAKER_01: 22:21

Cheryl, how does grief differ from that, especially something tragic?

SPEAKER_04: 22:29

So grief is a mourning of the loss, okay? And it's different for everybody. For you guys, you know that they've just left their body and you still have a sense of them being around or you going and visiting when you leave your body at night or feeling them around you. But grief is really about the loss of the physical presence that is shared. Okay. You know, we're sitting in the room. I've got people in the room here with me. We're sitting in the room and we're all sharing particles. We're all sharing bits of each other. We give each other a hug. We're sharing skin cells, okay? Sometimes viruses, okay? There's all kinds of things we share with each other. But it is a part of our becoming one with everyone. So when they leave, it leaves empty spaces within us. And it also makes our heart feel hollow. And it also brings up fear if I'm not working from love. Does that make sense? Who will I be without them? How will I be without them? what's my three o'clock coffee time going to be when they're not here anymore? So we have to, they pull away and they leave space and we have to find new ways of filling those spaces. Usually

SPEAKER_01: 24:00

with ourselves. I'm thinking more of the, like sometimes there's a shock if something's tragic or whatever, there's things that happen. Does that tie into the DNA thing?

SPEAKER_04: 24:12

Of course, everything you, every single thing you think Everything you experience, your DNA takes in and sends to the rest of the body. Okay. So absolutely everything happens with it. For you guys, the shock's going to be, holy fuck, I thought this room used to be pink and now it's blue. Okay. With little pink flowers somehow in it. So that shock is the same as any shock that we have. Like somebody just ran into your car, shock that you have. Your body readies you for dealing with that shock. But you guys, are bringing in the creator's energy. And so when you're bringing in the creator's energy, there is a physical shock that says, are we okay? Touch every part of you. Are we okay? Yep, we're okay. That creator's energy comes through. Let's check and see how they are. Let's find out if there's any way we can help. Let's take a step, hold their hand, help them through it. We can do it together. I'm not mad at you. Accidents happen. Let's move forward. So for you guys, I'm expecting a moment of shock at the car accident, but I'm expecting you to calm and heal and reassure them. Does that make sense? Is there a

SPEAKER_00: 25:45

way, there seems to be some people after grief that stay in that

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process for a very long time.

SPEAKER_04: 25:54

Like I'm thinking, you know, when they get to the year, two years, three years, five years. Are you talking about like when somebody passes?

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Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 26:03

Yeah, when their loved one passes. Some people grieve for a very long time. Yeah, they

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don't let go of the grief. They don't let go

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of it. Is there a way to help them to... come back to the present?

SPEAKER_04: 26:17

So every person's grief process is their personal grief process. And there are definitely, you know, they've described it in different stages, but we still go through it. And I do know people who have lost someone and years and years later, they still deeply miss them and cry over them, whether it was a person or an animal or a child or a friend, they still cry over and feel stuck in that sense of loss. But typically what happens as we move through the loss and the stages of that loss, we get to go to the happy memories after that. Then we have happy memories. We're not stuck on the point of pain. We're not stuck on that point. We have happy memories. Okay, does that make sense? We're just encouraging them to think about the happy memories. Yeah, and to realize they still have a life, they still have friends, they still have family, and that person is happy where they are. They're moving on into the Creator's world. What I've done is... Can you guys hear her? If it constantly comes up

SPEAKER_03: 27:38

as an issue of pain, I express them. I said, well, that just means that they've imprinted on your heart their love. And think of it as love that you're receiving every time you feel that. And that seems to ease it somewhat.

SPEAKER_04: 27:57

That's beautiful. That's absolutely gorgeous. Because I

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really believe that's what it is.

SPEAKER_04: 28:02

Yeah. Yeah. That's absolutely beautiful. Okay, you got it. Her answer works. Any other questions,

SPEAKER_03: 28:13

you guys? I have a question about this one line. You may also be called upon to call others to account for the attitudes or behaviors. And I think... like it's getting easier to catch myself or to call myself, Oh no, this is a fear response or this emotional overload is not because it's a negative thing. It's just that, you know, you have to kind of let the emotion settle first and then approach it from a different way. But I seem to, and I think maybe this runs into this idea of, of us remembering what our power is or our divinity. And that I struggle with the ego component of that, where, like if something happens, let's say at work, where you kind of know it's wrong, but you've been offended personally. And this happened recently to me. And so I know that I have to say something, but I really, for a long time, was like, is this just my ego because I'm annoyed that this happened? Or is this something that, you know, other people are at risk and you really should say something despite knowing there's going to be conflict on the other side? Like, I think the difference between the calling And the ego, for me, I'm still maybe... Good point. Confusing.

SPEAKER_04: 29:31

So we... Some of us, okay, not pointing at you, but some of us feel that if I am a spiritual person on a spiritual path, it should be all peace, love, and joy. Okay. And if I'm feeling, I'm confronted with something that needs to be addressed, I don't address it because it's not being spiritual. Well, sometimes it's really important for you to stand up for the laws of love, not just Justice keeps us in karma, in the beliefs of karma. Well, someday they'll get their up and comings, okay, from it. So we feel that there'll be payback at some point or another. But under the laws of love, which is what we're moving through and representing on the planet at this point in time, we can have conversations about a better way of saying something or a truer way of saying something that is more harmonious with the situation. We could phrase it from that way. We can also go, well, in that situation, did you get the kind of results you wanted to get? Ask them questions. Did you get the results? Okay. And they'll go, no. Perhaps a better way of putting it would have been blah, blah, blah. Or a newer way of looking at it would have been blah, blah, blah. How can I help you? Let's brainstorm here and try to find a better way to go through this the next time around. So we can be part of that puzzle without feeling like it's our job to point the finger. Does that help?

SPEAKER_03: 31:20

Yep. Okay. Okay. And I think too, maybe that the initial emotional response that maybe we get better at the pass through being quicker of the emotion, but there's no way I could have acted upon it in the moment of it happening. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_04: 31:41

So then you could, that's a good point. Then you can walk away and go, is this really a call for me? Is this my ego going? I can hardly wait to tell you to fuck off.

SPEAKER_02: 31:50

Okay. Or I mean, yes. Yeah. This is my moment. I've been waiting

SPEAKER_04: 31:58

for it. Yeah. Yeah. That moment. Yeah. No. Okay. So then, and those of us back away and go, am I really called? Am I really called to do this? So if you're being called to have confront a person with blah, blah, blah. If you're being called to it, this is an act of healing. Okay. This is not ego. All right. Ego. would go let me at him okay and you would tear him apart just say okay but if it's a calling there's a tenderness in there it warms you and you're hesitant because you feel vulnerable because you're offering love to a difficult situation this is an act of healing Anytime you're called to have a confrontation, it is not a defense. And never take that. If you're called to talk to them about blah, blah, blah, you don't have to do it at that moment where it would be an active defense. Settle down, go in, find that calling, and then approach it from that place of tenderness and sharing and healing.

SPEAKER_00: 33:03

Cheryl, is there ever a time when stepping away is a part of the calling?

SPEAKER_04: 33:08

Sure. The world's pretty complicated and pretty creative. So you've got to learn to listen to what that calling is, the particulars of that calling. Yeah. Any other questions?

SPEAKER_01: 33:29

I have a question kind of on a whole different tangent, but about the electricity response of the DNA. And I'm wondering about external sources of electricity, like that are in our environment and Bluetooth devices and Wi-Fi and. It's

SPEAKER_04: 33:56

all going to have an influence on you, on you. Okay. To some, degree or another if i'm afraid of it it's going to cripple me okay and because i'm in low vibration if i'm vibrating from high vibrations okay high light-based vibrations definitely from the i am or the god principle it passes through gotcha okay so it's what you think Your DNA and your body responds to how you think. So if you're going, okay? I mean, there's no way I'm putting my hand on a burner. It doesn't matter how much I think it's cool. I'm going to burn my hand, okay? Just a warning to all of you who want to try that, all right? That's not going to happen in here. So there's practical responses to all things for the care of the body, okay? But there's a lot of stuff we do to ourself because we're not loving people. towards ourselves. We spend way too much time bullying our body. Okay. All right, you guys. We'll see you soon. Have fun with this one. Lots of love to you.