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In this episode of the BC Podcast, the hosts reconnect and share their recent experiences, including trips to California and ComicCon, as well as their thoughts on the Fantastic Four movie. They delve into the topic of rest, discussing its importance in both ministry and daily life. Through personal anecdotes and practical advice, they explore how to recognize when you're stretching yourself too thin, what rest should look like, and the balance between growth and rest. They emphasize the significance of physical, therapeutic, and spiritual rest while touching on their own rest practices. The episode also highlights the upcoming BC Conference, inviting listeners to join them for a spiritually enriching event.

00:00 Welcome Back to the BC Pod!

00:17 California Adventures and ComicCon Highlights

00:47 Marvel Movies and Popcorn Buckets

01:37 Ministry Updates and Personal Reflections

02:31 Introducing Kevin, My Angelic Dog

03:12 Thea's Response and Future Plans

04:12 The Importance of Rest and Avoiding Burnout

08:47 Balancing Life, Work, and Ministry

10:01 The Value of Taking Rest

12:14 FOMO and the Importance of Good Friends

13:41 ComicCon Stories and Attractive People in LA

14:11 What Should Rest Time Look Like?

14:41 Understanding Different Types of Rest

15:21 The Importance of Alone Time and Spiritual Rest

15:58 Slowing Down and Finding Meaning in Bible Reading

17:07 Balancing Work and Rest

18:52 Personal Rest Practices and Self-Care

19:39 The Dangers of Overworking

20:57 Prioritizing Family Time

21:50 Learning to Say No and Delegating Tasks

22:47 Growth Through Rest

26:12 Conclusion and Upcoming Events

Transcript

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Yo. What's up everybody? Welcome back to the BC pod. Woo. Welcome. Hello, where you at? We're back. I have missed y'all and I know you have missed me. Lemme tell y'all something. So much has happened. Quite a bit has happened. So much has happened. We have lived a lot of lives since we film Last. What happened? Oh my gosh. Well, um, I went to California since the last part. Right? I did too. That was pretty cool. Yeah. Oh yeah. You went to ComicCon. I did go to about that ComicCon. I, and I had mentioned to ComicCon before, I wonder if anybody remembers, but ComicCon is basically just, uh, it's a place for all to be heard in every segment of when it comes to being. Yeah. Uh, loving superheroes. And do I tell you some of these people? I mean, the rumors might be true and we'll leave it at that. Okay. But comic com was a great time. I had a fun time in California since we last woke. Fantastic. Four came out on the big screen. We all saw that together. That was, it was so good. Extremely good. It was incredible. Yeah. Like it was one of the best movies I've ever seen. Marvel is so back for real. I did buy a popcorn, popcorn bucket. I bought my popcorn Rose fan, like$80 if 60. I'll say if the Spider-Man popcorn bucket is cool whenever that movie comes out. Oh yeah, I will buy it. Oh yeah, I a hundred percent will, whatcha gonna do with it? Uh, I don't know. Pee in it. Mine. Okay, cut it. Okay, great. Mine's just sitting on my shelf. Mine's just sitting there collecting dust right now. Well, yours looks cool to just sit there because it's like a car. Yeah, but the other one was shot, but we don't, you don't know what the Spider-Man one looks like yet. Okay. What if it's freaking awesome? It might be what if it's amazing? Yeah. What if it's, I I was gonna get the galacto said they did not have it. It was, but also they, we make them ransack the back so that they could get me what I wanted and they did. They did gimme what I wanted. But yeah, a lot has happened since we last spoke to you guys. Uh, we've had plenty of services and conferences and all, actually not really conferences, but plenty of services since then. And lemme tell y'all something, ministry, I'm Loving ministry. Can anybody say anything on that? Yeah, I love, love. I've been loving, I've been loving, loving, loving ministry lately. I love, um, especially, I have been loving the way that I'm seeing our, uh, ministry team specifically handle. Just themselves in general. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, it, it's like I've, I'm watching them really pull through on the light that God's given up and I'm like, you're gonna put me to shame in a couple days? In a couple weeks, bro, it's over. But yeah, so a lot has happened, but we're glad to be back. We're back in the swing. We're back in the rotation. We wanna make sure you got your episodes. For school, we wanna make sure you got them so that you can listen to'em on your drive in. Or when you have your AirPods in, you're not supposed to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every, every aspect your podcast will be available to you, okay? Mm-hmm. And we promise, I bet Kevin on that. Oh, and if y'all dunno, Kevin is my lovely dog, my angelic dog Kevin, named Kevin. He's a. He is my best friend. I love Kevin to the mood and back. I love him so much. My best friend one day we'll have him on here. He's my best friend. I love him. I will go with that cat. I love him so much. I'll go with that cat. I'll kill with that cat. I'm gonna, I'm gonna bring him on. One day when he starts, when he learns to talk. Finally that's, I know he can talk. He's just holding back. I, I know he can't do, like sometimes he'd be sitting, we'll be like, Kevin, get in the house. It's like late at night, he's gonna the bathroom and he'll sit on the patio staring. And I'm like, dude, I need to check for a zipper.'cause there's somebody in there, dude. And it's not Kevin. It's Answ. Okay. Okay. Thea referenced Thea also, but the Ference since then. If you don't remember last episode, we had, uh, thrown a, thrown a little swing at Thea because she didn't listen to the podcast and like. Was very rude about it, so we had to throw a little shade at her. Mm-hmm. And, uh, since then, she has in fact responded, um, to that comment. And she was not happy. No, she wasn't. And that's okay. And I'll be honest, I'll be shocked if she listens to this one too. Right. And if you are, we love you because Okay. One third loves you. Oh, okay. Well, yeah. I do love you. Right everyone else's hate. Well, when we will have her on one of these days and really let her speak her mind. Yeah, we'll let her defend her case. We'll have an unfiltered Thea talk. Yikes. No, that's a segment. Let's let Thea run loose on the minor. I unfiltered Theia. That's a good segment. That's bad unfiltered. Theo, if you guys wanna meet Thea, come meet Thea. She is doing autographs on Tuesdays at 7:00 PM so yeah. Go ahead and come, let her know. Just come show up. Ask for Thea and she'll be there. She'll be no blue pens though. No blue markers. That's, she doesn't want them replicated, right? Nope. So let's be for all. But, um, we, this, this week we were deciding on what to talk about, and this is actually Noah's idea for the episode today. Ooh. Uh, we are talking about the importance of rest and being discipled in your Sabbath, in your rest, so that you do not get overwhelmed and lemme tell you something that does not only apply. In ministry, not one bit. I mean, the rest, you're constantly doing stuff and you're not, every waking moment is gonna be at your church most of the time. So it applies much, much, much more outside of your ministry as well. So this is for everybody, just like always. And we've got, of course, three things and I don't have the first question today. Whoa. Is this is scary. It's your boy. It is your boy. Yeah. He's got the first question today. Okay. So the first question, uh. Is it you? It's actually just, it's, yeah, it's Oh. Oh, it's gi. Oh, right, it's Giselle. Yours is the second one. Oh, I read the sheet. Wrong thing. I wrote notes. My bad. I was like, I'll do it. Wrote notes for the first one though. Thing I wrote notes for, but did do it wrong. The first, I swear guys, it's been a minute. I'm sorry. It's, it has, we were getting poster film on Sunday, but somebody No, on Tuesday. Yeah. And then Sunday. Yeah, you're right. It's my bad. Sorry y'all. But anyways, first. Sorry y'all, but anyways is the last question. But anyways, the third question is no, but for all. The first question is how do you know that you're stretching yourself too thin? And obviously I feel like this is like a super like common question that's like not hard to understand and not hard to answer, but it's like you just reach this point of exhaustion, like you're just so tired all the time and like you don't have like the same. I guess like desire or drive or passion to do these things and like you don't find the joy out of doing the things that you used to do. Mm-hmm. Like apart from like serving and stuff like that. Like let's say that you do, I don't know, like you cook or you bake. Mm-hmm. And then you do it so often. Yeah. That you just. That you just lose that spark. You don't wanna do it anymore. Like, you just feel like you're, you have to do it. It's not like a get to. Yeah. And like sometimes, like you don't, like, you don't think do the things out of like love or the passion, but you just do it like, uh, like out of obligation. Yeah. I mean, y'all know I quit, I quit tennis for an entire season, which. Dude, don't. Don't do it. Do not do it. If you are in high school at the moment and you're thinking about quitting your sport and you don't have another one lined up, you're gonna go to, do not do it. Do not do it. It was actually the worst, like. Yikes. Six, eight weeks of my life, bro. Mm-hmm. So don't do it. But that's the point. I got so burnt out because I started looking at it as a thing that I had to do, and it was my responsibility to do that. I found no more joy in it, and I had no more fun with it. Yeah. So I was like, it's somebody else's problem now I'm not doing it. Yeah. And, uh, it was everybody else's problem actually. So did you, did you feel like the problem. Tennis, like you were so drained that you're like, something's a problem. I need to figure it out. I think so. And you pointed at tennis. Yeah, and it was like, it's the thing coming up. Also, during that month, there was a lot going on and I didn't have the ability to be able to separate my life into two things that was, let me deal with this now and let me get to that later. Instead, at the MO at the time, everything was one thing and so I let that they, they kind of consumed each other and tennis became a problem for this and this became a problem for tennis. Ultimately what? Well, I'll be honest, my reason for quitting tennis during that time was because I thought that there would be all of these new open doors regarding ministry. Yeah. And, um, I was wrong. Uh, so don't, don't let that hung out for you. Um, yeah. I was like laid back and so yeah. I was wrong. And, um, that was just a misjudgment on my part. That was not a God moment. That was a me moment. And being not allowing myself to be discipled enough to decide what was actually appropriate for that moment and what wasn't. And so they just kind of clashed with each other because I didn't, didn't separate them from each other. And I let them take me down and. Don't do it y'all. I like what Giselle said about like, things you love doing. You'll start to like just get grumpy about start to definitely, to definitely this like in, in like there'd be like periods where I was so drained and I was not giving myself the rest that I needed. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Like I'd show up here and I'd just be like, yeah, I'm so grumpy. Right. And I wouldn't treat anybody that way or like, it'd be like, we get in service and I'd be fine, but it's like I'd have a bad attitude about driving here about like, oh my gosh, I got, I got so much time and I'm. I'm not even paid. Where's my money? For real? Mm-hmm. Um, yeah. And I noticed like definitely I start to talk negatively. Yeah. Like I'm just like, I'm so tired, I'm so this, I'm so that. And the complaining starts to come out and that's when I know I'm starting to get tired. Yeah. Yeah. When I have like nothing positive to say or I have nothing that's like actually. Fruitful to the conversation being had. And I can't stand the people that I love being around every single week. I know that there is a point where I am stretching myself way too thin. Yeah. And I'm looking at things in a way I shouldn't be looking at them. Mm-hmm. Which is I have to do them. Yeah. Rather than I get to do them. Which yeah, for sure. Sounds really corny and in some ways it is, but it's also just truth. So. Like it or not. Yeah. Yeah. Loki, like, I feel like I'm starting to get to that point and I'm trying not to, but like if y'all, if you guys didn't know, I'm in cosmetology school and I've been in this program for like a year already. I graduated in a couple months, but like I've reached that point of exhaustion tour. Like I'm starting to not like doing hair. I'm starting to like, not like to do the things that I'm doing, but it's just like I get to be there, like Right. I literally paid so much money to be there. Mm-hmm. Like I need to enjoy to be there. I get to be there, I get to learn new things, and I just feel like. I feel like sometimes we get to the point where we're just like, we feel like we're not getting anything from it. Mm-hmm. Like one, like one of these thoughts slipped my mind where I'm just like, I feel like I don't like to do the thing, like the clients that they give me or whatever, because I'm not getting paid. But once I get outta here and I start getting paid, I'll like to do it again. Mm-hmm. But I feel like that is such a, like, that like just takes me back so much and I'm just like, I need to appreciate what I have. Yeah. And I get, and I get to appreciate like how much I'm learning and like my instructors. Mm-hmm. And like all the clients that are trusting me to like. Like work with them and do their hair. Yeah. But I'm just like, I'm taking myself back like I am. I'm putting myself back and I just feel like that's when I know that like I'm getting tired of school like, and it, and it's okay. Like it's okay to get tired, but I don't know, I just feel like you just need to see the way, see the way out. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think there's also like there, I've seen it before where there's just like. Overbearing mentality that taking rest is a sign of almost weakness. Weakness, yeah. Oh yeah. And uh, taking rest is like a sign that you don't care. Totally. And uh, honestly, I would disagree in the fact that it would be the complete opposite. That taking rest shows that you do care enough about whatever it is. Yeah. That you're willing to take time off from it to make sure you can do it to your best ability. And, um, I think that that is very true, especially in doing what we love. That if we are constantly doing every single day, that love will fall out. And then we won't love it the same amount anymore. Yeah. But if we were to take rest about it and we would to be like more picky about how often we're doing it, then it almost becomes a reward to be able to do those things. It's like so true. McDonald's every day is not as good as when you get it once a month. Like lucky it hits once a month, but if you start getting it every single day, it just tasty. Exact same. Mm-hmm. Same thing like you eat too much Chick-fil-A, it just starts eating McDonald's. Yeah. Not, and that might be a rage date. Don't start talking about that. Right. I said don't mean that up. Your, your rest will make you better. And you have to have this like. There has to be balance. I mean, like all three of us, like we, we all have jobs, we all have school, and we all have ministry. Yeah. And so we need to find that balance. Yeah. And so we can't get to a point where we're saying yes to everything. You gotta learn how to say no. So you can set a po. Like you have to be intentional with how you set apart that time to rest. Mm-hmm. Like a big thing for me was being able to, like, on certain Sundays when I know I'm feeling it, I say No, I'm not going out. I'm going home. And I just take a nap and then I read. And that's like been so important to me. Mm-hmm. And so like, ha having that ability to be like. No, I'm tired right now and respect that. And just, just, even if,'cause I know we're, we're all people people and we get fomo for real. We make jokes about having No, I was about to say, FOMO gets me, yeah, we make jokes about having fomo, but there you, you, there's times where you gotta fight the fomo where you know people are hanging out. You gotta be like, no, I can't. I'm tired. I can't. I need the rest. I need the rest. And Jenen you, you used to not be like that. Fomo. Yeah. You used to be like, I'm going home. Oh yeah bro. I used to all the time. I used to have really bad fomo and then for whatever reason it just stopped and I did not care. And then lately I've just, I have I really bad fomo. I have really bad fomo. Before go. He'd be like, dang, my bedtime. It's best time. It'd be like, so I gotta go guys. Yeah, I know guys. I have to be up in like 13 hours. I have to go to bed, dude. I have, I need bed. I need sleep. I need to sleep. No, I, yeah. But I think too, it's important when you have the right friends, FOMO is a gift and that, right? Like to be able to fear missing out and to be able to like wonder. It's like, dang, I have some really good friends that I want to be with them all the time. But you also have your friends be, having good friends also means that they're letting you, they're understanding when you take rest and they're understanding when you stay, uh, a home or when you, uh, are focusing on your relationship with God or just yourself in general, they're gonna respect that rather than be like, you are a loser. Have you? That's it. That's funny you meant that. Have you ever like came around people where somebody says they can't go and they're like, I can't believe them for real? They start hating on'em. Yeah, that's me. That's, yeah. Calling me. Yeah. Or just, it's all jokes though. Yeah. Not me. Yeah, but you're never for real. Like I've, I've met like been around people where somebody says to can't home and they just be like, oh my gosh, they're so annoying. For real. Like, I can't stand them. Yeah. Immediate switch up. Now, let me say this too. If you are going home every single night, oh my gosh. Live, have fun, live a, and we talked about that before. Live a little bit. Please. Literally come out with us. I feel like. Like this summer we've been hanging out so often. Mm-hmm. But I just feel like I had the realization where it's just like we're all like starting school soon, so like we're not gonna hang out that much. Yeah. We can't be in Los Luna at 11:00 PM on a Wednesday night anymore. I was not there for that. He was in California. Yeah, I was in California. I was in, dude. It is true. And he fomo. He had FOMO week. I was like, I was in California on the beach. Like, dang, I wish I was, I wish I was in Los Luna in New Mexico. Try beat the serenity though. Yeah. Thank y for real. Um, thank you guys. It is true what they say, bro. Everybody in LA is attractive people. I can't lie. Like everyone mos switch over. I'm sorry. Not at Comic-Con. They so hot. For real. Well, yeah, obviously at Comic-Con. Well, hey, don't count'em out yet, but well, when they start using deodorant, they'll get there. Maybe, maybe I won't count'em out. They'll get there. And if I would love to hear a Comic Con story, please text me about it. Because I thought it was a whole interesting seeing people on TikTok talking about like, oh, what is this outfit? And then I saw them as a convention. I'm like, dude, you're a celebrity actually. You're a celebrity dude. That's right. But yeah, the second point is, what should my rest time look like? Okay, that's, that one's, Noah's not the first one, but what should it look like? Okay, 0.1. Um, no, but what should my wrist. Point one. Okay. Point one. Um, anyways, uh, I missed that joke the first time. If you missed that joke, I said it again. If you didn't know I said it again, just, just go back. Okay. What should my rest time look to look like? Um, I think rest is obviously going to be different per person. Mm-hmm. But what I think there's like, um, categories of rest that you need. I, I put three down. I put physical rest. Uh, this for me is like bed rotting. And reading. This is what like my, just, I'm not moving, like my physical body needs rest and I put therapeutic rest. This is me for, this is me reading and cleaning. Um, this is just stuff that like, yeah, it's a hobby. This is, I think this is why hobbies are important to have these things where it's just like, yeah. When, when I'm like, really, like I know I need a rest day. I need to stop thinking I need to rest for my brain. Mm-hmm. I tend to just deep clean my room, put on some music and just forget about everything. Mm-hmm. And then last lastly, um. Uh oh yeah, also alone time. That's big for me. But also my, my last one is spiritual rest, rest with God. And, um, I think that's what the Sabbath was for in the Bible. Clearly it was for, it was a day for God. Yeah. And so you need to also set up time. Time set apart time where it's rest. It's not like study, it's not Bible study. It's, it can be reading, but it's not. It's just time just to read alone time with God. Don't, don't think about studying. Don't think about what you're trying to learn. Just, just maybe read, enjoy a little prayer and just, just, just lean back a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Don't like, you don't gotta be like, I need this notes and need these notes and need this and this and this. That was one of the best advice I've ever gotten when it came to reading my Bible was. To slow down when you read your Bible and stop searching so hard for an answer or mm-hmm. Or a revelation, like something that you're gonna break the world with, like it's not, not, or something that you're gonna post on your Instagram story and put in your bio and not know what it is. But watch out. We're gonna, I'm gonna start doing that, so if you're got a Bible for know it by now or just pick a different one. But anyways, I know mine off to a T'cause my You have one in your bubble? I do. What is it? What is it? It's Genesis 6 22. He's like male and female. Only now is Genesis 6 22. Noah did all that. The Lord had commanded him. Dang. Noah. Dang. Not so far like self-centered, but, but I did Okay. Prideful offers. Okay. But that was, I think Noah, Noah, Noah, Noah's Noah. That, okay. Okay. Noah Boa, whatever. Okay. Yeah, I'm mad, but, uh, there's no Jensen in the Bible. Sorry. There's no Giselle in the Bible. Sorry. That's fine. Immediately cancel a rage bait. And you're not kidding me. That's okay. And I'm okay. I'm glad yours is though. That's fine. I'm glad you'll, I'm glad you're up, twin. For real. I'm glad. Or when I finally started listening to that and like taking that advice of to read your Bible slower, so many more, so much more things started revealing themselves to me than it would've had if I was looking directly for one thing. Mm-hmm. And when you're reading your Bible too, it can be so tiring to always have to. Hold yourself accountable and think like, if I don't learn something in this section of reading, I am going to not be, go be alone in the rapture. I'm gonna free kids. It's over. And so I think too, when you hold yourself to that standard, it makes reading your Bible much more exhausting than it really is. Oh, for sure. And sometimes reading your Bible and getting the word is simply just as good as I, Noah said, just reading your Bible, reading the stories. Read, literally even just reading the gospels that fills my, that has filled my cup up time and time again. Mm-hmm. Even though I've read it, I can't even tell you how many times, but just the stories of that and without even having to try to study them, they just fill me up and they, they, they help me push forward and also re just rejuvenate me. Yeah. They help me get wetter and less like snobby and rude because how do y'all rest? Like, how do y'all rest? Like, because like for me, I'm big on alone time and then like, like reading. That's usually my big too. I need to be alone. Really. I need to not see the soul. I need to not talk to a soul. I need to not text the soul. And that's really hard when you have, like, when you, especially in this gig, and also when you have like a, a partner or a relationship, it is really hard to not like. Or it's like sometimes two. I need more than 30 minutes, bro. I need like a day, dude. Like an entire 24 hours dude. And sometimes it's not that achievable, but I'll tell you, it works wonders, absolutely me with YouTube on the side and Xbox in front of me. Yes bro. Just bed riding and YouTube, literally mac and cheese and, and chicken nuggets. Don't get me excited. Oh. I might jump out this chair. Hold up. You can hear yourself. Take off the incident. That's the microwave. Turns on. What? But honestly, I feel like I, I need rest from like, I don't know if this is like you guys too, but like there's certain things that I need rest from. So it's just like. You know how we go out to eat, like Yeah. Very, very often. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Sometimes I need, like, I need to take a rest from like, the things that we eat. Yeah. Yeah. And so like, I love to cook, like I'll love to cook, like, and get recipes and I love to spend that time and it's just literally just me in the kitchen. I'll put Ons music. Yeah. And I just cook. And I, and that's like my time. Like said that's your like good rest. Yeah. Like he said that he likes to clean. I like to cook. Right. I don't know. Or like, I'm a very big self-care girl. Like I just love. Doing my skincare and I love, you know, doing all these things, but apart from like reading and stuff like that mm-hmm. I feel like that's like physical things that I do to take breaths and just like take time for myself. Mm-hmm. Also. Being a workaholic is probably one of the most damaging things you can do to yourself because that, that's not hard work ethic. That is overdoing yourself and then you're gonna get burnt out, bro. Like there's sometimes where I, I have friends and they're like, I'm working seven days a week, six hours a day. And I'm like, are you okay? Are, are you happy? Is like 112? Yeah. For$98. They're like, yo, I'm switching them. Not even six hours day. They're working. Eight to 12 hours a day. Yeah. And for$98 every two weeks. Yeah. That's Go to paycheck. Just hits Yes on you guys. Guys. It's on me guys. Let's go. Um, but yeah, I just think too, when you are over, like when you don't have any kind of rest, how do you expect to function long term? Yeah. At all? Yeah. It doesn't make any sense to me. I think, um, it's low key. A source of pride too, when you just think you can do it all. Oh, yeah, yeah. When you, like, I, I've had my moments of that, especially like when I first got into ministry, I was like, oh, I could do this. I could do this. I could preach three times a week. I could preach, I could preach 10 times. Yeah. I could preach 10 times a week. And that's not, it'd be phenomenal. Um, and then I'd be like, yeah, I can do kids. Yes, I can do this. And so I'd open myself, all this stuff, and then I'd be in a bunch of stuff and then I'd be like, man, why am I so tired? For real? This sucks. Right, right. And it's like, well, obviously bro, you didn't need to do all that. Nobody asked you to do all that, but you just thought, you thought you were so cool, you could take on all these things. And it was never supposed to be that way. Yeah, yeah. And a lot of times, like I feel like. When I'm always on the go and I'm like always like doing stuff for school or for work for church, I feel like I lose sight of like the things that mm-hmm. Matter as well. Like a big thing for me that I'm like trying to focus more on is my family. Like mm-hmm. I have like certain days that I just, I, I, like, I take it apart from them and it's just like, like Wednesdays are usually my days. Like I'll come back home from school and I just only wanna hang out with my family. And I feel like that's like a huge thing is I don't wanna neglect all the other things that God has given me. And I feel like my main thing is like my family, like I wanna hang out with my family as much as I can and like when I'm not with my friends or when I'm not, I'm not at school or church or work or whatever, I wanna be with my family. Mm-hmm. Aside from myself, I wanna be with my family. And that's, yeah. I feel like that's a huge thing and that a lot of people kind of like push to the side is like. The people you're coming home to is like your family. Yeah. Yeah. And this, I feel like this is a huge thing This, this is this part, what I'm about to say. This is for people in ministry right now. If you say no, somebody else will pick it up. Oh, somebody else, oh my gosh. Will come and do it for you. Yes. It is not your, it's not all of your responsibility to take on every aspect of something that somebody asks you. Yeah. That doesn't mean people should stop asking you to do things. That just means you should have enough discipleship to say no. Absolutely.'cause somebody is going to pick it up and that's okay. That's fine. And that doesn't even just go for ministry. That can go in workplace. I've seen our workplaces where it's like, I remember at Chick-fil-A there was always like, um. There was always that one guy who like, or that one manager who put everything on one employee. They're like, yo, I need you to do this. I need to do this, I do this. And they'd be like, I just need to do it. And it's like, bro, it's Chick-fil-A. You're fine. Like you can, they're gonna get their fries. Yeah, they're, they're gonna get their Chick-fil-A sauce. It'll be okay. This is how you know we're hungry for real.'cause we must chick literally, I'm so hungry. I'm starving. Yeah. Let's wrap it up. Point, it's a speak of 0.3. Point three. The different, this is talking about the balance between growth and rest. I mean, first of all, let's break it down, but growth and rest. I think there's a misconception that you cannot grow at all when you are resting. And to me that. Building the mentality that reading your Bible is uh, is not a act of rest. And personally, I think that reading your Bible is an act of rest and making sure that you are being filled up is an act of rest, but not in the way that's like, I need to make sure I understand this scripture perfectly before I can't lose sleep. That's not rest. But being able to disciple yourself to know I'm going to read my word right now and receive whatever God has planned for me. That is rest and you are growing while you are rest. Right there. Mm-hmm. Now, if it comes to a point where your rest is overtaking your growth, that is a time where it's time to switch that and make sure you are still growing just as much as you are resting or more mm-hmm. I should say, than you are resting, because without growth, how are you supposed to get better at literally anything? Mm-hmm. Yeah. You can't, it's trick question. You can't. Yeah. You got one? Did I interrupt? No, you're good. I'm sorry. I got yelled at for interrupting today. You did? By me. By me. He did by her. He did by her. Which I need. This is why we have good friends. Right? They keep me accountable, right? Yeah. Anyways, you did get mad about it anyways. Amen. Yeah. He needs it and you do it R baby. But yeah. Um, but I, I, I wrote it in like this, like the resting is. Not the important part. Mm-hmm. But it's important for your important part. Yeah. So I'm not like working so I can rest. I'm not working for the weekend. I am resting, so my work is better. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So like I can go and'cause like I want to kill it in ministry, I want to kill it. Mm-hmm. At my job, I want to kill it at school. And that will be supplemented by good rest. Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm not like just crying, grind, grind, grind all day just so I can get home and be like. Uh, finally I'm here. Mm-hmm. I, I've arrived home. Yeah. Giselle. Yeah. I, I don't know. This might seem like, oh my gosh, the cornball, but like when you were talking about like you just resting and by your rest you will grow that kind of like immediately like this, like picture of just like, like plants. Like they, they don't do anything, but they just sit there and they indulge in the sun and they rest and then they grow. Yeah. Yeah. Like they don't have to work hard to become the tree. They don't have to work hard to become the flower. Yeah. But like, they just sit there and they allow themselves to grow. Mm-hmm. And then they become this beautiful thing. And I think that's so cool. Yeah. That is cool. That point's pretty basic, but I think y'all got the, is it, is it right? Is it right? No, it, yeah, it was, I think, um, even with that, like. I wanna say this, like, there, there's a, to a degree, I think being tired is okay. Yeah. Like, you know, if you're, if you hit, you hit Friday and it's a long, it was a long week, and you, you're a little tired, that's okay. Because I think that's like evidence of like a good week. Yeah. Good week. Working hard. Yeah. You're working hard, but like, I don't think you need to get to the point where you're depleted, exhausted. Yeah. When you're exhausted, when you're depleted and you're starting to get angry, that's when it's a problem. And that's when you need your, that's when you need your little quiet time and your alone time and your bed rotten, whatever you do. Mm-hmm. Dude, bed rotting. I love better on every now and then. Every now then? Every now and then. Every now and then. Yes. Those are our three points for you. How do you know you're stretching yourself too thin? What should my rest look like and what is the balance between growth? And rest. Okay, that's three points. Pretty practical, pretty simple. This, I, I, once again, I'm gonna emphasize this does not only apply if you are in ministry or maybe you haven't found a church yet, whatever, but that applies to your every single day life. There is not a moment where you should not be finding a second for rest, at least, and finding just a, a day for rest'cause that's what you were told to do. Don't forget it. Right. And so that was, uh, kind of our, that was our episode for today on rest. Uh, we filmed in the staff launch today, so sorry if you heard a microwave two. This is so nice. Nice change. I do, I like the table. I like, and, uh, so sorry if you heard a microwave two. It's all right. It's just what happens. Um, mind your business. Okay, for real, but. Uh, this is, that was the episode for today. We hope you learned something. You saw something new. Also, I wanna say BC conference is coming up. Very Ooh. You better be there. I'm gonna be there. And so you, yes. Hey, she knew Believer Center Conference. That is our church. Okay. We are putting on a conference September 7th. Through the ninth, multiple sessions, guest speakers, Jay Chavez, Jared Neiman. Wow. So we are really excited to be hosting it. I'm so, um, but we out, we want so many people here to experience the same word and experience the same thing. And we're excited because it's our home church. So we're excited. We're off of Waterfall in Central Albuquerque, New Mexico. Uh, I did just docs us. But, um, it's all right. No, we hope y'all come and find us. Why would you do that? That they, they're gonna know we're be here on Sunday. Oh, dang it. Dang. Oh no. We're gonna be here at Sunday at 10 and definitely 10 don't come at Sunday at 10:00 AM or Tuesday at 7:00 PM And we're sitting in the front row. Yeah, on the right. Sorry. Don't forget it's section C. Oh, no. Dang it. Okay. Hey, well that's coming up soon. So to look forward to, uh, and if you haven't made your way over to Believer Center, we wanna see you here. And look for Noah, Giselle, and Jensen. Um, I know her faces are on the thing, but we look different. Listen for conference. I shave my eyebrows. I don't have my brow. I shave my head. I bleached my hair. Yeah, literally. Um, and, and we have a little special, um, okay bro, we have a little special, what should we say? Segment a little segment for Jay. Oh yes. Because we love Jay. And he's like our most, like Jay Jay stays listener. Devoted listener. If you do come, here we go. Oh, what? Hold on. Jay, you're chopped. No, Jay, you're chopped. Chopped. Jay, you're not chopped. Chopped. You're, we love you. We love you so much. Jay. You're not chopped. We love Chopped. We love chopped. Jay. We love you. He's gonna get better. Jay, we love you. Jay. I love you. You're not chopped but us. What J is first? Oh, Jay. He's been on the podcast. Jay's been on the podcast. Uh, Jay is one of, he's like our workshop guy here at the church. He builds things. He fixes things when there's so wrong. It's Jay. We love Jay so much. Jay, that was for you.'cause uh, if you don't know, we love one. We love Jay too. Uh, Noah said Chopped maybe about 50 times in the last episode and you had a problem with it. Nah. Mean the Spotify is chopped. Right? Chopped. Chopped. Anyways, chopped. That's our episode. We hope to see you at BC Conference in Santa Lookout for the next episode. Thank you for listening. We hope to learn something. If you're one of our Australian viewers, oh my gosh, I will fly you out. BBC Promise. No he's not. No, I'll not. He'll not. Alright, we'll see you guys later. We love you. Bye bye. Bye.