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From Motherhood to Muscle: Vanessa's Transformation

Tenoch Season 3 Episode 3

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Have you ever wondered how personal challenges can transform into profound strengths? In this heartfelt episode of InkTales, we sit down with Vanessa, an inspiring educator and mother of five, whose journey into teaching was sparked by her oldest son's learning disability. Vanessa shares how her dedication to teaching high school students with special needs and her own personal transformation into fitness were driven by her family's needs and love. Listen as she recounts her evolution from struggling with basic exercises to becoming a bodybuilding and powerlifting competitor, all while balancing her roles as a devoted mother and committed educator.

As we explore the importance of dedicated educators, we reflect on our own experiences and the impact of seeing students as more than just numbers. The conversation delves into parenting and teaching strategies that emphasize discipline, commitment, and perseverance. Through anecdotes from our personal lives, including stories about our own children and classroom experiences, we highlight the values needed to prepare children for future success. This episode underscores the crucial role of creating an open and supportive environment in both teaching and parenting.

The episode also takes you on an emotional journey through the significance of tattoos, featuring Vanessa's deeply personal stories of her own body art. From a tribute to her grandmother to symbolic tattoos that represent personal growth and family connections, Vanessa's tattoos are more than just ink on skin—they are powerful symbols of love and resilience. We also discuss heartfelt stories of honoring loved ones through tattoos, including a father's Vietnam veteran service and the anticipation of future tributes. These narratives beautifully capture the essence of using tattoos as a form of emotional expression and remembrance.

Speaker 1:

Hi, you're listening to the Inktails podcast, a show where I go out in the city, meet new people and get the stories behind our tattoos. I'm Tenoch. Come join me on my journey Today on the show.

Speaker 2:

I'm in La Quinta, california, with my guest, vanessa. Vanessa, welcome to the show. Thank you, hello. It's good to see you again. Good to see you. Our second attempt show. I'm in lakinta, california with my guest vanessa vanessa welcome to the show. Thank you, hello, it's good to see you again good to see you our second attempt I know in a much quieter setting, which is nice.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, last time we?

Speaker 2:

uh, definitely we made a really good attempt, but uh, traffic was a little too loud I mean like snowbird season just doesn't seem to end around here anymore.

Speaker 3:

that's so I get it. Actually, this is Pazawit Big win.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're at Tequila's in La Quinta, so it's very nice, very quiet. Drinks are popping, I know we're having some good drinks, had a good little pre-conversation before our podcast, but I like to start it off really easy. So why don't you tell me a little bit about yourself, what you do and some of the hobbies that you like, and we'll get into the whole tattoo story stuff, all?

Speaker 3:

right, all right. Well, let's see. First and foremost, I'm a mom. That's like my main title. I'm a mother of five. I have four boys and one daughter. Main title I'm a mother of five, I have four boys and, uh, one daughter. Uh, we are very active family. Everybody's always doing something, um, from football, boxing, um even being active in school in the communities. Myself, I'm an educator, so I work with students with special needs it's important job it's.

Speaker 3:

I love it. I honestly do like and I teach high school kids. So the amount of sarcasm I like come into, you know contact with on a daily basis, it's awesome because they get it. They get the sarcasm I like. Don't get me wrong, littles are cool, but high school is where it's at um sass level. Absolutely, Absolutely. So it's like that's like tit for tat all day long, but it makes the time go by.

Speaker 2:

So what made you get into education?

Speaker 3:

My son, my oldest son. So he has a learning disability, so he's very, very hyper and when he was younger I didn't know what to do. It was, you know, he was just off the chain everywhere, couldn't sit still and as a result of that, his behavior was very negative in some senses. Only because he just didn't know what to do with himself. Okay, and the teachers that he had when he was younger also didn't know how to deal with his behavior. And since he was my first child and I had him very young I didn't, I was learning as well.

Speaker 3:

So we came into contact with this really amazing resource teacher, ms Osborne. She bless her, like bless her. She took him in and just worked with him right away and she knew what to do, like she just had him under her wing. She allowed me to come in, observe, help out in the class, do anything that I possibly could with the time that I had, okay, and she's the one who actually pushed me into becoming a teacher. She's like you have a lot of patience, you should do it. And, of course, when she said that, I was like lady, no, absolutely not deal with. You know, other people's baby kids. You know I'm just like no, um, no, kids are great, but you know there's some that are just a little off the chain and um, but she was right, she ended up being right and I started substitute teaching and I just loved it.

Speaker 3:

I look forward going to work every single day and while I was working towards getting my um masters, I was doing pharmacology and that at the same time, and just teaching one teaching one each day is different. You never know what you're going to get. Um, all these different personalities in one room and you get to like, yes, you're teaching, but you're also giving life lessons at the same time. Right, so that to me, is worth it all, to be honest, because I made a lot of mistakes in my younger years. So working with students where at the age where I started making some questionable decisions, was where I feel I need to be and I still feel like a strong pull. That's where I belong to this day. Um, besides, from being a teacher in my own personal time, um, I got into fitness also because of my oldest son kind of threw a jab he threw a jab one day.

Speaker 3:

He's like oh, we're kind of a couch potato family. I was like, oh man, as I'm falling asleep on the couch, breathing hard you know, I was like, oh, it sucked to hear, but he wasn't wrong.

Speaker 3:

So I put myself into the gym. I started up at this local gym here called Fit 42. Okay, just to kind of get you know everything moving, man, those coaches kicked my butt. I couldn't do a single push-up. I couldn't run a lap, literally to like, curve, to curve. I was like forget it and it's like to see where I started to where I am now. Um, I did bodybuilding competitions, placed in bodybuilding competitions. Never thought I'd do that in my life Power lifting competitions. I'm going to have my next power lifting competition in eight weeks.

Speaker 1:

It's exciting.

Speaker 3:

I'm super stoked, super, super stoked, and it's like the journey has been insane. It's like it's a consistent journey. It is not meant for a destination. That's not what it's about. Like you're constantly growing, constantly changing, evolving as a person and you know, and your body's constantly evolving too, because as you age, you know, you still get to push your barriers, and don't you have to learn not to set an age limit? I feel like a lot of people think like, oh, I'm a mom, oh, I'm in my 30s, you know, or I don't have time? I mean, that was me. We have excuses, dude, I had an. Oh, I still have a bag ready on standby for a lot of things you know and they all sound pretty good.

Speaker 3:

I've learned to master them quite a bit, but anytime you need one right, just pull one out you know, here's my mom bag.

Speaker 3:

It's on standby. You know I was like, but now I'm like. You know, enough is enough. You know it's time to just stop that because at the end of the day, I am an. I am a mom, like I said, first and foremost I am an example. So I don't want my kids to develop those habits. So I really do feel like everything that I go into, I feel like give it a hundred percent, because I want them to know that if you really want to achieve something and if you want to be the difference, you have to go out there and give it your all. And if you don't, then you're going to sit here like why didn't I get this? Or why didn't I get that? Well, did you give it everything you had? And if you can't sit there and say, without a doubt, yes, then I don't want to hear you complain.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and sometimes you got to realize everything you have is different every day.

Speaker 3:

Every single day it's a little bit different.

Speaker 2:

It's not always the same.

Speaker 3:

I mean like you can sit there in the morning, wake up, have your clothes laid out, your food in the fridge, you know, wake up every on time, get out the door and you're like morning's great boom, your starbucks ordering ready, boom, there's an accident on the freeway. Oh well, at least my starbucks order was late. But now I get to sit in this traffic jam and you know I'm still late.

Speaker 2:

But you know what life's good when you forget your shoes or something important you're like forget it.

Speaker 3:

Man, I forgot my laptop for work once. I was like so teaching? Today we're back to the fundamentals. Open your books, that was. And the kids were looking at me like no iPads, no this, no that. I'm like.

Speaker 2:

They're like what's that book?

Speaker 3:

Welcome to when I was in school, where we just had to focus on actually paying attention to what the teacher was saying. And you know, as I said, I teach sped, so they're just looking at me like lady, you're crazy. Every day. I talk to myself quite often and I'll answer myself, which I feel is normal.

Speaker 2:

Now, and how long have you been teaching now?

Speaker 3:

and so I entered education in 2007.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, about 2007 and seven years, yeah, you still have the love for it I love it every day like I look, see it. Your, your face lights up when you talk thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3:

It's like there. It's the kids through the years that just made the biggest difference for me me Even running into them in the store or just in a public setting, and they still know me by name. That is the deal that I signed up for.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, I'm like we definitely do need a lot of good teachers that influence our kids in a positive way, Not just treat them as a number and push them through.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I completely agree on that, because there's, unfortunately, educators in the field that I'm sure that we remember from our youth that were questionable.

Speaker 2:

I'm trying to think of a way to say it that's not offensive they don't know they're in here, they know, they know what's up, you know it's like say it man, I could drop names right now, like be like we need to have a meeting in hr, like oh, why, um?

Speaker 3:

but it's like at the end of the day, like I can. I know I can only control what happens within my classroom, right. So as long as I know, when they come into my classroom, I check in with them. I do check in. I stand by the door. I'm like how's it going, how's your day so far? Now, if you want to talk to me after class, feel free. Now I leave my door open for them because, unfortunately, when I was in high school or just in any kind of academic setting, I didn't have that open door.

Speaker 2:

OK.

Speaker 3:

I didn't feel like that door was open, because a lot of where I grew up it was Teachers were really not really kind. You are just literally like here's your grade, go on, you know, and I wasn't. I'm not going to sit here and say I was a mess. It's kind of horrible actually. I would talk all the time. I would talk all the time. I couldn't stop talking and the teachers would. I had, like, designated desks, and maybe this is why my son was the way he was. I had designated desks and maybe this is why my son was the way he was.

Speaker 3:

I had designated desks like literally in front of the teacher, away from my peers. But it's like, even though I had that behavior, that talking and all that stuff, I was the top student. I was straight A's all the time. So now that I'm an educator, obviously I know I was bored now.

Speaker 2:

It was just too easy for you even now I do.

Speaker 3:

I feel like that sometimes I'm like I get bored really easily, so I'll find myself doing like all these multitasking or taking on other jobs like Saturday school, summer school, home, hospital, um, just to keep my mind busy, because if I'm sitting still for too long I get really anxious.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

And yeah, it totally explains why. But I wouldn't change it because I mean I feel like I have, like I work my butt off to be where I am and I'm very blessed and fortunate to have the opportunities I do to make money so my kids can fulfill their dreams and have goals that are going to get them advanced places in life.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

And in society.

Speaker 2:

So we want to advance right.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely Honestly, anything and everything I do is for them advanced places in life, right in a society. So, so we want to expand, right, absolutely. I honestly, anything and everything I do is for them. They are, they are, and so that's why, when they're like, mom, I'm really interested in this, I try to nourish that with every fiber of my, to make sure that, okay, if this is something you truly want, we're going to give it a hundred percent, all gap, no rings. And if you've ever you decide that you, this is not something that you really want, you need to show me why. Because I'm not gonna. I'm like kind of that, I'm not gonna let you be like one day to the next, like no, I don't, yes, I do. No, that's not no, if you're committed, you're committed, you're committed and you're going to stay disciplined.

Speaker 3:

Like the other day, my son was telling me Mom, I don't feel like going to the gym today. I'm like, excuse me why? He's like well, you know I'm tired. We did this in this school today. Like, okay, so what makes it any different from any other day? Well, today I'm just really tired. I was like that doesn't sound like anything out of the ordinary for me, dude. I was like it's still about to get it done. I was like, if you want this, bad enough, you're going to show up. And I said, if not the person who wins, or that you feel this competition or whatever you have, I mean, your goals are in the future, they're going to be like well, I felt like I didn't want to go one day, but guess what, I got up and went anyway.

Speaker 2:

I think that's a good life. Lesson you know. Stay disciplined, you still got to do the work.

Speaker 3:

Nobody's going to do it for you Nobody. And even with, like eating right and you know, and even with sport, just like anything you do in life, I always make sure I tell my students your name is on this, not mine. I prove myself in this level of life. And now I said I'm not going to sit here and do it for you, because I feel like a lot of kids now and a lot of students are sitting there waiting patiently for the teacher to say okay, she's going to get tired of explaining it and waiting for an answer. She's just going to give it to him.

Speaker 3:

I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen teachers and be like here you go. These are the answers. This is exactly what you need to study for. Go study. No, dude, absolutely not. That's not how things are going to run in here. I'm going to? No dude, absolutely not. That's not how things are gonna run in here. I'm gonna teach you how to function and operate in life. See, you can be successful, but I'm not gonna give you any road maps, dude. You're just like. I'm gonna show you this is what you gotta look out for, this and this and this, but I'm not gonna sit there and give you the answer key. That's not. Well then, what's then? What's the purpose?

Speaker 3:

right it makes you think like it's like already playing a game, but you know who's going to win. Why would you want to play? You know, Absolutely not, and that's what I teach my kids. It's like would you be as committed if you knew what your outcome was going to be? They're like well, no, I'm like okay then. And you know, I kind of I talked to my kids like I would have wished somebody would have talked to me when I was younger right like straight up, tell me don't bs, don't sugarcoat it with me.

Speaker 3:

Is this realistic, is this something I should shoot for? And I tell them. I was like, do you see yourself in that position? Like, then, go for it. That's just how I leave it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

All in all, my kids are my driving force. That's good. They're just it for me, that's it. I just look at them and like all I need, so you're a mom.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you're an educator, yep, and you love to do powerlifting, and you said you also did bodybuilding, did bodybuilding. So does that make up everything that you are, or do you have any other side interests that you did before we find out when and why you got your first ex?

Speaker 3:

Oh man. So I didn't have a strong foundation of family when I grew as I grew up. So, like my, everything was my grandmother.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

And she was my first tattoo. I got the cross of praying hands with her name on my back. And I got that when I was six and to get a you know permission right off for that one.

Speaker 2:

But uh, did she know that you were getting it or was she still? Was she around?

Speaker 3:

No, she um. My grandmother passed when I was eight years old.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Um, unfortunately she she passed away right in front of me.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 3:

Um.

Speaker 2:

We were trying to get her into the car to go to the hospital and she just collapsed right there.

Speaker 3:

Okay, that must have been very traumatic for you. That was because I didn't know at that moment that she had passed on until several days later.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

So I was told that she was in the hospital recovering, but I found out later on that that wasn't actually the case. When we were staying with a family friend, my grandma kept the whole entire family together my aunts, my uncles, cousins all in close contact. So when she passed away there was this immediate shift. Everybody just went for what my grandmother had and it wasn't really remembering her for who she was.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

So my grandmother was born a day before me. We used to do combination birthdays.

Speaker 2:

She always used to say that was the best man. So she has a kid right Like you're five, six years old man, to celebrate with your grandma. Oh, dude, it was dope, because my has a kid right Like you're five, six years old man To celebrate with your grandma.

Speaker 3:

Oh, dude, it was dope, because my grandma man, she didn't hold back Like and I'm going to say I was a favorite. I'm just going to say it right now. I don't care if my sisters hear me, you're the favorite.

Speaker 2:

I was a favorite, just put it out there.

Speaker 3:

Just going to put it. It's better they find out this way. Um, she was everything so, like when we had our combination birthdays and we did stuff together. It was just and she heard me and she saw me because I was a middle child, so you know, and I was a very, very quiet, reserved. I know it's really hard to believe, but I really was swear. Uh, I was at a point when I like I didn't talk for like a really long time and people were worried why I wasn't talking.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that was that quiet kid, but she was just the easiest person to be around. She accepted me, she supported me and who she was and what she did for me I wanted my children, okay. So she to me, is the a person of just a good human being. So I carry her in a very special place. So when I got that tattooed her, it was very um, it was very emotional for me.

Speaker 2:

So even now when I talk about her I was like so when did you know that that's what you wanted to get like? How old were you? And when did it come to light that, like, as as soon as I can, I'm going to get this Like when I was like.

Speaker 3:

I want to say when I was like well, not to even know what tattoos like were and what it took to get them.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

I've, I've always had an obsession with, you know, with ink, with just with body art. All that. It was just a form of expression. So as soon as I saw like tattoos, like my dad has tattoos actually all over the place, and he didn't get more until, like he separated from my mom, of course, but like when we did see him, when he'd come visit us from colorado, he would just show them to us and explain and I was like you know, those are badass. I was like about 12 and I want some.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I was like I was like do they hurt? And he's like not to me. I was like my dad's like this horn ass. So I'm just like, okay, they didn't hurt to him.

Speaker 2:

That doesn't tell me anything, so I'm just gonna go in and well, yeah, let's talk about that, because the tattoo that you got it it's not small, no, and it's also in like the dead center of your back.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So talk to me about what he experienced was like, not only on like the pain level of how the like the needle felt there, but also like the emotions that you went through, knowing that because, like you said, you know like you talk about when you get a little bit emotional like how did?

Speaker 3:

that feel for you when you were on the chair and then like when it was done what did you feel, even just the initial sketching, with the artist explaining to him I wanted the praying hands because my grandmother used to collect praying hands, so as a very symbolic connection, and the rosary because my grandmother was very religious. Okay, just breaking down everything to him piece by piece, how I wanted it and I was also. He wanted to go bigger, but I was like nah, bro.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's already pretty big. Yeah, it's pretty prominent.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So I was like, and he's like, okay, okay, okay. So he's like about this size. So he was negotiating with me a little bit. I was trying to you know, um, I haven't heard that word I was like, okay, it's my first one, but when he was doing, it didn't hurt, it didn't hurt. It was actually the most feeling of just utter just relief. I feel like it's something that I needed to do for so long and I felt like she wasn't truly celebrated as she should have been. Okay, and this was kind of like me finally saying like thanks, grandma. You know, I'm never gonna forget you. You know, even though I don't have, unfortunately, access to a lot of pictures and a lot of things that did belong to her, that's something that no one could take from me. So that was like a really big and when I got it, I did, I cried, I was very emotional. I was a quiet car ride home, but a very happy. I felt like immediate peace.

Speaker 2:

Do you feel like that was your way of like grieving away with all that emotion as an adult? Because she asked when you were so young.

Speaker 3:

Yes, because grieving in my family, like my mom's a very emotional woman, um, but I also. But I felt like I I didn't feel appropriate greeting with her. I know that's not, it's hard to like understand, like you shouldn't be wanting greeting with your family, but I didn't feel like that was appropriate at that time.

Speaker 3:

And even like when I was like remembering her and still having, you know, seeing when I did live with my mother, seeing all the items around the home that did belong to my grandmother, and just I felt displaced from them. But this I felt immediate connection, immediate, this is mine. You can't take this away from me. And once I got the tattoo I did, I cried my eyes out. Once I got the tattoo, I did, I cried my eyes out. The next day I went she's buried in a forest lawn in Pasadena. Okay, I could walk to her grave now and just out of pure memory from when I was a kid Wow, yeah, and just standing over her grave and just like you know, talking with her, I cried for hours, hours, and I was, I felt immediate peace. I was just like I already told myself. I said I bought the plot. I said told my mom, sorry, you can't have it. And I said I feel like it's. You know she wants to be there anyway. Where?

Speaker 2:

you're meant to be.

Speaker 3:

It is where I'm meant to be and I made sure all my kids knew everybody that I genuinely love and trust. I said this is where when it's my turn, this is where I'm going to be, this is who I belong. So yeah, big emotional tattoo, like anything I get on my skin now is it doesn't hold a flame.

Speaker 2:

it doesn't hold a flame. Don't go home on that first one, huh yeah, that one.

Speaker 3:

And that's why I I still tell people to this day if you're gonna get a tattoo, you better make sure it means something. Man, don't get something because it looks like freaking badass, cool, like, if that's you, that's OK, but I mean like, make sure the first one, you're never going to forget your first tattoo.

Speaker 3:

And that's true, and you know what? I made sure it was a damn good one. And now, and even now, I can talk about it and smile. There's don't get me wrong, there's one on on my skin right now that I'm like bro what the hell and we'll get it. Well, we'll get into that one, but you know that first one was was it All?

Speaker 2:

right, that's a very, very good first one. Thank, you.

Speaker 3:

I can understand why it's very emotional. Grandmas are, grandmas are, grandmas are special Dude Like moms are obviously very special.

Speaker 2:

There's something different. If you have the right grandma, right yeah.

Speaker 3:

Oh man, there's some ones, that one of the ones that did your nails.

Speaker 2:

There's just something like extra tender about a good grandma.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely, a hundred percent. I can't. I know it sounds like kind of like cheesy, but I can't wait to the day that I get to fulfill the role that she. You know, that's just kind of like a dream of mine.

Speaker 2:

All right. So, moving on from that one, I'm going to kind of stay in the same area. Tell me about this flower tattoo that you have on like the back of, like the base of your neck.

Speaker 3:

See, that's where we get into the nitty grgritty oh, we're going from one emotion to another. That was a not a smart girl moment okay and I say girl because not yet a woman okay, so we all get involved in these relationships? We really shouldn't, okay. So there was a tattoo underneath that flower.

Speaker 2:

Oh, this is a cover-up. It's a cover-up. Oh yeah, let's get into that. Before we figure out why we put out this flower, let's talk about what's underneath this flower.

Speaker 3:

It's a name.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Of a guy that meant a lot to me when I was going through a very dark time and unfortunately, this guy hurt me in more ways than anybody possibly could okay so I was like a hundred percent about this guy, hundred percent how old were you? Dude, I was.

Speaker 2:

I was 21, I wasn't that young but old enough to know, old enough not to be a stupid mom.

Speaker 3:

but here I am. You know, I had just moved out to the valley by myself.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

And I had my children. I had broken up with their father, I was working.

Speaker 2:

So let's just say it's not the baby daddy.

Speaker 3:

Oh, none of them. No, no, it's not.

Speaker 2:

Just to be clear. Just to be clear, it's not the baby daddy, oh, none of them. No, no, no, it's not.

Speaker 3:

So just to be clear, just to be clear, it's not a baby daddy. It's not a baby daddy, okay, okay, yeah. So I just moved out here, and when I was moving out here, it was rough, I was struggling. It was just me and four kids. Basically, I was working three jobs. I was working an overnight job and two daytime jobs, rotating between those three in a day, sleeping a couple hours, and I was going to school for my bachelor's program.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

So, if you imagine what that's like hell.

Speaker 2:

So Sounds built already. Yeah, I was.

Speaker 3:

I was already tired so I was like vulnerable because you could talk to me. I probably don't understand what you were saying most of the time, but there was this individual at one of my jobs that I had an immediate spark with, Immediate, and he, you know, of course he was a smooth talker, sweet guy. You know we were seeing each other. We're in the break room. One day One gal walks in and we're just, you know, chilling and we had been serious and she was like hey, how's your white?

Speaker 2:

And I was like whoa what? Did you say it out loud, or were you just like in your head thinking?

Speaker 3:

I was like oh, whoa in my head. But uh, when she, you know, she sat and had lunch with us, all this stuff and then, um, he texted me, he's like hey, and I was like, dude, whoa, what the heck like. I was hurt, hurt, and I had literally just got his name said on the back of my neck, so it was like fresh fresh, fresh and so red around the edges.

Speaker 3:

Man, I was like the guy. But I'm not gonna sit here and say like I was dumb for getting that tattoo. I was dumb, okay, I was dumb. I'm just gonna say it like that. Some of you, it's your man's name, that's your business, but I'm just saying for me personally. I was dumb.

Speaker 2:

Um, I had to wait for that ink to heal and then I had to wait for money so how long did you carry that, knowing you wanted to get it off before you actually can do the cover?

Speaker 3:

like at least six to seven months before I could afford it Because, remember, I'm a single mom. And tattoos are not cheap. No, they aren't, Especially one that you got to go over like that's a dark flower. Okay, it's dark for a reason.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so why the flower? Like, is there a symbolic reason you got that particular flower? Or is it just like, like this one's dark and it'll do the job?

Speaker 3:

I mean, it was initially like that, but anything, flowers have a special place with me too. So with my grandma, as same goes back to my grandma. Um, I would walk up to her house and we would go there to visit and you would smell the flowers. And same thing from my childhood with my mother. She had the walkway rose all the way up, okay. So it's kind of like it's a symbol of strength for me, symbol of like rebirth. You can start again like okay, it didn't come out as you wanted this time, I may not have bloomed today, but I'll bloom bloom tomorrow, you know. So that's why I have the rose over there.

Speaker 2:

That's good. That's good that you covered it up, not good for the reasoning I got it.

Speaker 3:

I mean.

Speaker 2:

I still to this day.

Speaker 3:

I kind of like I've had to put my head down for that one, like uh, and you know the thing about cover-ups is like no matter what you cover it up with with, you'll always know exactly so it's always like a two-edged sword.

Speaker 2:

Right, it's like there's a good side of it, like oh, I'm glad I covered it up, but then there's a bad side of it, and whatever memories and have attached to it on the other side, exactly no matter what emotional bombs right away, okay, um, and usually kind of like to ease into emotional bombs right okay so let's talk about this dinosaur that's for my baby. All right, let's talk about this okay tell everybody where it is and then just tell me about it.

Speaker 3:

So so on my calf, I have, well, my whole calf, I should say I have a land before time piece. So in the land before time piece I have a little foot that is licking mom's face.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

So my son, jackson is, was dinosaur themed from the gate. Everything, yeah, everything, dinosaur Everything. But the reason why I got that tattoo is because when he kissed me, he didn't lick me, he wouldn't kiss me. I was like, okay, well, here we are.

Speaker 2:

And it's all tongue for mine.

Speaker 3:

Spanish speaking listeners. I would just I'm like okay. So I saw that and it's just immediate. I was like that's it, that's it for Jackson. I try to have every something for each of my children. Okay, and that was just every. Every time I look, I just smile because I just think of him as a like a new babe, just like I was his whole world and I still am, how old is?

Speaker 2:

uh, where does that child fall into you being? He's my youngest he's my youngest, so how old is he now?

Speaker 3:

seven.

Speaker 2:

He just turned seven and how does he feel about it? He loves it like that. He knows that, yeah he does.

Speaker 3:

He's like that's my tattoo. All my kids know their tattoo. Okay, yeah, they all know so definitely in a different direction right, so that's good um, how did that one feel?

Speaker 2:

because I'm like it's in the cat, like in the cafe, that one heard it off I mean or did you? Have like same thing. Do you have any emotions getting that?

Speaker 3:

but put on like I was just pure happy with that one. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, I fell asleep, fell asleep. I'm a sleeper when I get tattoos, yeah, except for like the rib one. We'll get into that, but the rib yeah, and other than that, I was standing knocked out the whole time like it's. It's therapy for me, I know I've heard.

Speaker 2:

I've heard that a lot. You know like there's something that happens when, like you get a tattoo. You know people say like I don't need therapy, I need another tattoo Because, like you can have, depending on the way you get it, all sorts of things you can have. It's just a big release of like. It's just sigh when it's done.

Speaker 3:

Yes, and it's like looking at the finished product be like, okay, this is it's reset, done, ready to go, and I think I'm due for a reset button. Well, I knew there all right.

Speaker 2:

So then, right underneath that, we have a name alejandro.

Speaker 3:

Okay, who is? Alejandro and why did we go with the name?

Speaker 2:

right underneath the dinosaur.

Speaker 3:

So that was my second tattoo. Kept it simple.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Now, though, he's coming up with this design, he says, because he says it's not fair. Well, first off, alejandro is my oldest son, he's 18.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that's a jacked old bodybuilder one.

Speaker 3:

No, no, no, this is my.

Speaker 2:

Wait, there's another one. Yeah, my oldest is 18. Is that the one that's in the Air Force? Yes, okay.

Speaker 3:

That's my Air Force son and he's graduating from boot camp in a couple days.

Speaker 2:

So are you going to get some kind of like Air Force things? They probably have something special already, or you don't know.

Speaker 3:

I don't it. He's just like. You'll know when you know I'm thinking about it, I want to make sure, like it's really nice because it's going to be on there and it's going to be better than my brothers and my sister. He's so super competitive.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So let me ask has he picked the spot of where he wants the statue to be?

Speaker 3:

Oh, it's still going to be right there.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I didn't know if he claimed like a different real estate on your body and said no, he wants to go up the shin.

Speaker 3:

I said, what's your problem? And he's like why not? I was like there's like a whole shin bone there.

Speaker 2:

He's like I don't see an issue yeah, I'm like wait till you get one on your shin bone and you tell me if there's an issue.

Speaker 3:

I love my son but he's he won't. No, I think he's gonna be furging skin to the end. I love him so much and he's he's not happen. But, alejandro, that is my first. Oh, frank there.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so we're just going to go right across and go to this nice red rose.

Speaker 3:

That is a cover up.

Speaker 2:

Okay, let's get into that cover.

Speaker 3:

So that's just a simple one, really, Because, okay, so I had a really good friend of mine just fresh out and he was doing tattoos. I was trying to be a good friend. He's like, yeah, let me tell your son's name, Noah. I was like all right.

Speaker 2:

Did he misspell it?

Speaker 3:

No, dude, totally looked super weird like miscolored and the letters were kind of janky and I was just like I carried it for so long.

Speaker 2:

How long did you have like that?

Speaker 3:

six years like that, and I was like, and I started getting I was getting other ink on me in the meantime, just like you know. And then my son, who's actually calling me like mom, I want mine to look nice.

Speaker 2:

I was like that's funny that kids realize like even they realize like that is not that's not, it, that is not high level but you know, actually I misspoke.

Speaker 3:

It was six years before I realized I needed to do something about it, but it was actually. This one was only six, but coverable like maybe two years okay, so I'm walking around with that thing like a champ man. I was like hi, ankle socks, like I divided myself.

Speaker 2:

I had that chola vibe going for you yeah, man.

Speaker 3:

I was like, oh, thug life, noah on my ankle, you know, just I'm rocking it hard and, dude, it was like, finally, he's like mom, come on, you can't. I was like, what do you want? He's like well, I know you really like roses and he's like this. He's so god I love he has such a good heart because he's like mom, one of these days I'm gonna buy you whatever you want. He's always been like that and he's like. He's like one thing I really wish I could is like he's going to buy you whatever you want. He's always been like that. And he's like. One thing I really wish I could is like I know you love flowers. I wish I could buy you roses. What about some roses?

Speaker 2:

How old is Noah?

Speaker 3:

He's 14.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that's the.

Speaker 3:

This is my entrepreneur kid.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Trying to hustle any way he can, doing meal preps, doing all this stuff. Now he's like Mom. He's like I got you, mom Anything I can do for you. He has such a good heart. He's really sweet and this is the bodybuilder, one with a heart of gold.

Speaker 2:

I think that's really sweet of him to realize and it shows how much he cares about you, that he realizes what you like and he wanted to kind of take what you like to symbolize him.

Speaker 3:

Yeah I think it's really sweet, such a kind heart for that kid. It really is like I know. I always look at him and I tell him like kid, are you like?

Speaker 3:

you sure you're mine he's such a genuinely good person and I mean, like we all have our moments where we're like, okay, I need to redirect. Sorry, but he always is very thoughtful of my emotions and sees, I think, more than others, what I really do every day to make a lot of things possible. He's a good kid, very blessed, different, personalities all the way around. All my kids, man, we're very blessed, different personalities all the way around.

Speaker 2:

Tell my kids that, man, it kind of sounds like it's just based on their own individual tattoos and how they express themselves it's crazy, though they came from the same mother, you would think they would have something in common, but absolutely not.

Speaker 3:

Maybe the dark humor, maybe they're all so different. They're a blast man.

Speaker 2:

The kids are gross, okay, so this is Rib Peas.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

We got another flower scene with a hummingbird.

Speaker 3:

That's my mother, okay, so my mother's always loved hummingbirds and she's always had a green thumb. My mom could grow anything. Okay, I wish she grew some other things. She grows lots of flowers.

Speaker 2:

Sorry, mom, you know that hummingbird is the only bird that can fly backwards.

Speaker 3:

I did not know that We've had our moments of backwards and forwards in our relationship.

Speaker 2:

That's an appropriate word for her I really feel like it is actually.

Speaker 3:

Her and I have had a tug-of-war relationship but as I've gotten older I've understood. You know her vantage point and you know where she really a lot of you know, and that's why I really felt like it was really symbiotic to get something for her, because, you know, I got something for my dad first and she was kind of like you know what the hell mom, you know so many words, you know.

Speaker 3:

And I was like, well, I didn't know what to do. And it just hit me one day hummingbirds. There was always hummingbirds in our garden. All around. Everywhere you look in the house there was something stained glass or a figurine hummingbird that are angels, okay. And I was like, no, I'm sorry, mom you know, we're not really you get a hummingbird. We're, we've done some things. They're not very angelic, so so I went for the hummingbird, and whenever I do say hummingbird, I think of my mother.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

I do. I'm like I got to call my mom Especially if I know I haven't spoken to her in a real while or, you know, in some time Because I understand life happens and I know she understands that about me too, especially being a busy bee with my mom. That's what we used to call her when we were younger busy bee, my so we used to call her when we were younger. My friend Teresa gave her that nickname. She understands she's like you got five, I get it.

Speaker 3:

She only had us three girls, so she was always on the go with us and she always tells me I can imagine with five, yeah, she's like. And boys I'm like. Yeah, I'm big stinky boys he's like. Yeah, so love my mom.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so that symbolizes your mom. So you mentioned that your dad had some pretty cool tattoos, right, and you said you also have a tattoo for your dad. I do so kind of walk me through the process. I was bored. And it's just too easy for you to put on your body because your dad has badass tattoos. I would feel individual to symbolize a person like that in ink.

Speaker 2:

That's just my perspective, but I want to know your perspective on that and what you ended up getting and how your dad reacted to that once he saw it, is he?

Speaker 3:

still around my dad's it's actually his birthday today.

Speaker 2:

Happy birthday dad 75.

Speaker 3:

Vietnam vet Navy, seal Big. I have the most respect in the world for my dad. He's been through it and he's, you know, a cancer survivor. He's, you know, he's a very good man and a very hard man in my younger years, um, so he's very disciplined, very, you know, very proud of me because so he has, like a scotch, irish, celtic crosses, celtic seals, family crests, very things that are very prideful of it. So I was like what can I even get man for my dad? And right away I just thought sparrows.

Speaker 2:

I knew it was a sparrow. I'm looking through the photos and I'm like I guarantee you you got the sparrows, because I think, for how you described on some badass tattoos, I'm like that's a very American traditional kind of tattoo. Yes, and I feel like a person who gets tattoos would really understand and respect that.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely Especially well because he is a seal right Underwater, seeing birds right. He helped me out in the water all the time and he did two tours in him.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 3:

So I got a squirrel for each tour.

Speaker 2:

Well, thank you for your service for sure.

Speaker 3:

Dad's a bad man. I just look at him every day like how do you do it, you know?

Speaker 2:

and he's just like it was different time then and you think of, like everything that's involved in that right. You know like going like.

Speaker 3:

And there was politics man. No one wanted that you know, and just to think that he was right in the middle, living it, breathing it and you know, doing what was asked and what his order to do. Or you know, and I just have the highest respect for my dad because I know there's I do not I firmly believe there's things that he's done and he's seen and that I'm safe and cozy in my bed because of a lot of things that he's done. So never go against my dad's word.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

What he says is it? There's no but or anything. Even as a grown woman, it's it. My dad says I don't want him. Okay, that's cool. All right, we're not doing it.

Speaker 2:

So when you knew what you were going to get, did you?

Speaker 3:

consult your dad, or did you just get it and show it to him? I just got it. I just got it and what was his reaction? Like I've never seen my dad cry before. That was my first time. He, um, that was around the time that we found out that he had a pancreatic cancer. Um, it's gone. He now he's in recession, but, um, it made. I think my personal belief is like when he had that um, it really kind of made, put things a lot of perspective for him, that because he had just been such a hard man his whole life that you know like it was time to you know, just let emotions flow, and he did.

Speaker 3:

And, like I said, I've never seen him cry, I've never seen him vulnerable and when he, you know, was explaining that he'll tell anybody, he'll hear if I got my tattoos out, he'd be like those are for me proud dad proud, dad super proud, and you know he's so, he's so proud of you know it was all his children and he'll brag about us.

Speaker 3:

You know we don't. I don't question the love my dad has for me at all. You know what I mean. Like he did things that he didn't have to do and when I was younger, you know he stepped up and he didn't. And not a day goes by that I wouldn't call anybody else my dad, that I wouldn't look to anybody else for guidance, and he's just he doesn't. What else was that?

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm I'm almost like, um, a little bit speechless about that, just because it's uh, it's a very touchy subject for me to feel like I have a great relationship with my dad and, uh, you know, we're saying I'm going to get a tattoo that symbolizes.

Speaker 2:

I have one for my mom already and I'm going to get one for him Today or yesterday I told him and it was the first time I saw him show any emotion, that he knows that I'm getting something for him, so it was really cool and I'm like I can't ask my dad. That's dope. I talk about my dad all the time. It always makes me want to cry.

Speaker 3:

It's so awesome You're you know what, and the fact that you guys were able to share that emotion together. You know what I mean Same thing, he doesn't show emotion.

Speaker 2:

So the fact that he showed like joy and happiness, I was like.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to get that sooner than I thought, just because, like he finally showed a little emotion about it, cause he was very opposed to tattoos in the beginning, I see. And now, when they told me I'm getting this for you, he's like, it's like yeah there you go, my brothers, we're gonna get it. We're supposed to get it together. Okay, uh, we may not, but we're still gonna get the same one. So he was really happy about that that's the same, so that's why I like your story is a little touching, oh, that's.

Speaker 3:

I'm so happy for you. You gotta show me when you got it done also heck yeah, absolutely, and I want to see like a video you got to do like a video reaction.

Speaker 2:

Right when he sees it. Yes, Everything, Check it out. I'm like this one's for you pops.

Speaker 3:

Heck yeah, I'll be like no other space right here. That's just for you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's honest, Honestly there's. I feel like that's such a way to show ultimate respect. Yeah, it is, and how long ago did you get?

Speaker 2:

that for your dad, man, I've had this one since 2000.

Speaker 3:

So it's been a while, it's been a minute, I want to say going on a decade.

Speaker 1:

Wow, okay, I spaced out tattoos.

Speaker 3:

You know financial funding does have a factor.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like we said earlier, my tattoos are not cheap, not at all. You get addicted, you want one another one. Next thing you know, like there's more than three zeros behind that. Yeah. When you're thinking of what you want to get Exactly. So we have three left. Okay, I'm not really sure which one I want to finish with.

Speaker 2:

I'll decide that after we go with this one but I'm going to go with the small tattoo that you have behind your ear that looks like a heart in a musical note. Music is a special thing for me.

Speaker 3:

Okay. So I was actually taught the piano when I was younger. Um, to my shame, I didn't follow up with it. I was, um, when I was younger To my shame, I didn't follow up with it. I think that's why now I make sure I follow and I finish with everything that I do. I was discouraged.

Speaker 3:

I was sad that I wasn't as good as everybody else, but now I kind of have it right there as a reminder that you gave up one thing okay and even now that's a little passion and I'm kind of working in my scenes actually, as I'm rebuilding my music knowledge and I want to start playing again, um, because, music is therapy, yeah no, I totally agree.

Speaker 2:

Whether you play it or you listen to it or you write lyrics like, it's a great way to express emotion and like release whatever you have inside of you, whether it's good or bad or you're not feeling anything. It just helps you connect, you know. So it's very special.

Speaker 3:

Very centering. You know, especially when I'm on the trails. That's another. That's trails. That's my hobby. I love hiking.

Speaker 2:

I love the wilderness.

Speaker 3:

I love to get up and go wherever I end up, that's it. I'm always looking for new, beautiful scenery and just things to explore. I like the quiet. It's not so much the quiet, I don't want to say, but it's like when you close your eyes, it's just your surround. It's the tranquility.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly it's like the sounds of nature.

Speaker 3:

Yes, the constant. I constantly seek it. So that's why I say like if my wife would have taken a different direction, I totally would have been like out in the nitty gritty Wilderness. Wilderness and archaeology, actually Archaeology, esotology. I would have been traveling everywhere I could have passed and gone.

Speaker 2:

The female Indiana Jones. Huh, absolutely, I love Indiana.

Speaker 3:

Jones Love Indiana Jones. They don't give them enough credit. But music was just kept to me, grounded, no, no matter what I was going losses and family losses of our kids, births of children, ending of relationships music was there. So and I keep this with me because it's like I may have lost it some along the way, but I'm going to get it and it's just kind of like a reminder, like hey, I'm still here, okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. And, like I can like now that you talk about it a little bit more, I can see the symbolism of not only what it is and where it's placed right Because the music is right by your ear.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and it's also like a half a heart, so it shows that love that you have for it. All music, I don't discriminate.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so we have two left. I think I've made my decision of what I want to go with, right. So we have let's see, let's talk about that the lady on your thigh.

Speaker 3:

Betty Page. Oh man, I wish that she was alive in my age bracket. She is my definition of a beautiful woman, of a beautiful woman, wallace, just in every sense of the word. When I look at her, I see confidence, okay, I see just like there's just a shh Knowing where she is in life, knowing what she wants, and she's going to take it from me. She doesn't care who you are, you don't intimidate her. She's like strength to me and it's more than just like her looking sexy and being very blurry, but it's kind of like a commanding presence and in a way, it's how I wasn't for so long, because I was.

Speaker 3:

You know, I've always been a heavier set girl. I've always been very like, always covered and secure with. You know how I look, and every time I look at her she just reminds me of who the hell I am. You know like I am. I can. I have to talk to myself up, I see. Even so, I can talk myself up right now, like I'm a beautiful woman, I have a good heart.

Speaker 3:

If I want something, I can go out there and get it and nobody can stop me. And you know what I mean. I dare you to get in my way and that's just like man. When I look at that it's like come at me, you know, I'm ready for anything. It's just like she's also kind of like my mental reset and I have her there for a purpose, because my thighs are the biggest thing to hear in my pants, don't go on the right way one day.

Speaker 3:

Or you know, I'm just waking up one morning not feeling like I'm the queen. I am, I'm down at her and I'm like put your chin a little higher, you know, shoulders back, get in there, get it done. You are who you think you are and be humble enough to learn, but still know that you can go in there and command your presence. You know, and yeah, she's all that for me, man, like there was a Betty Page walking right by this window. I'd stop and talk to her and say how you doing? I'm a very straight woman but I'd be like, hey, girl, hey, how you doing.

Speaker 2:

How you doing. Here's what I want to know about that sense.

Speaker 3:

Where were you in your stage of life when you got crisis, utter crisis? I was, you know, I just had my two kiddos. I was 18.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that, with that piece, I was so she's been with you for a while.

Speaker 3:

But you've been with me for a long time and, man, I was going through it. I was in a toxic relationship, financially struggling, currently being evicted. My kids were. They were eating, I wasn't. It was just bad. The gas was $5 a gallon Back then 2013. Wow, man, barely. And it was just. It was really rough. Rough, because looking at Now, thinking about where I was now, it's even more appreciative, right, like it is true, when you look at these tattoos and they remind you of where you were when you were getting them. Think about where you were and where you are. It's kind of like a time jump.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's why I love talking to people about it. It's definitely a journey back in time. It gives you a window to who someone really is back in time. It gives you a window to who someone really is, no matter if people say it doesn't mean anything. If you can really talk to them, there's always a meaning behind it and it starts to tell a story of who someone is, or who they were and who they are now.

Speaker 3:

I remember sitting in that chair. Yeah, I remember sitting in that chair. Man, I remember sitting in that chair drinking that. Corona, 18 years old. God, it was even earlier than 2013. What am I talking about? 2009? Don't start aging me people um.

Speaker 2:

I was going through it so what feeling did you get on that one when that was done? You saw it because that's, I'll tell you this that's a pretty freaking bold tattoo there. Thank you, it's bold, it's a big expression, right yeah and people can look at that and think of it many different ways oh yeah, but it's like.

Speaker 2:

I look at it, it's like to me. I see someone with that. I look at and see what the person's like and I'm like do they have the same confidence as that tattoo? Cause that's fucking bold and that's like. That shows like I have this confidence about that. No one can take away just cause it's such a big piece and like what it is, yeah, so statement for sure, yeah. There's definitely a statement piece.

Speaker 3:

And when I got it done, that was the intention to remind myself you are not a victim. You are going to get through this, like you've gone through everything, and you're going to still keep to grow. You're a strong woman and you are a symbol of strength. Now be a symbol of strength for others, and I honestly strive to do that every day. You know, with anybody I come into contact with, you know I'm, you know I have my moments, you know where I. You know I falter, I second guess myself, but, like I said, I just look down there and I'm just like and I flash back, like you said, and it's like you've been through so much worse. Why are you even upset? You find yourself caught in your tattoos.

Speaker 3:

I do so what I just like. Look at them and I just have a smile and I'm just like and you were a minso when you got that one you've been through a lot.

Speaker 2:

You've been through a lot.

Speaker 3:

You and I been through a lot you and I Seen a lot of BS, you know but and no regrets at all. Honestly, not a single one.

Speaker 2:

That's good because I kind of saved it up for the end, but my final decision of what I want to go with and finish up our podcast with today is the entire sleeve that you have on your arm that has like a door and a bunch of intricate flowers.

Speaker 3:

let's get into that and the key the secret garden. So when I was younger I didn't really have the ideal playing outside and doing all that stuff experience as a kid. I had to grow up at a very young age, so I've always lost myself in books. I read a lot and one of my childhood favorites was the Secret Garden. Now, another connection that makes obviously, I said, was my mother and my grandmother, because when I think of flowers pardon I think of my grandmother.

Speaker 3:

So when I was getting this done, it was kind of like combining everything together, okay. So it's kind of like combining everything together, okay. So it's kind of like putting together just my life, in all honesty, just like everything that I've had to overcome, like the door of adversity, doors being slammed in my face constantly and having to figure it out on my own. So in a sense, I am my own key. I didn't depend on others for anything, any handouts, any help, any assistance at all. I did it all, and even moving here I did it on purpose, so I would have to learn how to serve, and then I also did it so others weren't leeching off, okay. So that's what that too, too. But the secret garden for me was kind of like my mental escape ticket.

Speaker 3:

That book got me out of a lot of situations that I didn't I wouldn't recommend other kids to be exposed to or to see. So a lot of people you know like they'll listen. Like I said, music was therapy, therapy. But for me it was when I was younger. It was reading, reading, and then it went into music and then it went into, you know, lifting weights. You know, over time I've just constantly evolved, but this just Childhood, straight here, when I want to say from the age of six I was reading chapter books. Ok, yeah, so that's why I was like picture books.

Speaker 2:

Don't cut it anymore.

Speaker 3:

No they don't. I needed something to engulf, to just kind of like create a new world in a sense, and if anything, this is just me building it and it's just the beginning. I plan on doing a whole wraparound and having my scenes of playing on the swings as a kid and down here. It's kind of going to be like down by my farm is going to be kind of like the finish line.

Speaker 3:

I'm not going to get that done until I'm much older. See where life takes me yeah, see where life takes me. It's going to get that done until I'm much older. See where life takes me. See where life takes me. It's going to go right down this side, right here, from elbow all the way to my little monkey man.

Speaker 2:

Who's the little little monkey man?

Speaker 3:

This is for my son, jojo. Okay, so he gets all butthurt about it now, but when he was little he looked just like this man. He had little, cute, little adorable big brown eyes just staring up at me, a little tiny voice, and I almost lost him. I almost lost him so like when I he's just like, just this sweet little face of just pure innocence and joy. Um, he was a baby for such a long time. I thought this was just so fitting.

Speaker 3:

We used to call him mojo jojo when he was little, powerpuff girls. And I was like no, I'm about to get mojo jojo on the room, I'm about to do that. But I was like okay, well, we'll do a little monkey, because his theme when he was a baby was monkeys. So I was like that's why I did it. And I told him, because he used to be like mom, he's saying I look like a monkey. And I was like no, joseph, calm down, it's because you're being, when you're a little, yeah, little monkeys, the little cartoon-like monkeys. He's like okay, okay, I was like calm down, kid, maybe he was ready to fire. He was a good kid.

Speaker 2:

Sounds good, so are we missing anything?

Speaker 3:

My daughter, my little lady, my ladybug on my other arm here. Did she choose that? No, you did. I did so. Her theme was ladybugs. When she was little, everything has it's. It's all set in stone for me, but she's my only daughter, my only little lady, and um boys, one little lady one little lady and man, is she just man? She's my daughter. I'm just going to say she is sassy and all that.

Speaker 3:

She'll tell you what she's thinking. She doesn't care if it hurts your feelings understood, but she's gonna make it known what she has to say and I'm proud of her. She is strength in every sense of the word. She's gonna move mountains. She's gonna, you know, shake the world with her presence. She's, you know, she's going through her trials and tribulations for life lessons early, as I did. Um, not in the same severity, thank you, jesus. Uh, but she is learning and growing and I'm very proud of her and I always, I never, hesitate to say that that's my doll, that's my only baby girl.

Speaker 3:

I wouldn't have it any other way. I know she always wonders. She's like I'm the only girl. You forget about me. I'm like, no, with anything, I think of you first because you're my girl. But I said so. I said but even if you're the only girl, I know that you're going to be okay. I said but trust me, I check my new first. I don't think I check my new last. It will think nothing like that. Okay, mom, but she keeps me in check too. So it's all good. Can't wait to see what she does.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure she'll do great things with, you know, with a good mother figure like yourself.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, I'm excited to see.

Speaker 2:

I think that brings us to the end, doesn't it?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no more tattoos to record at this time, at least for now. To be continued. I know I'm not done. I'm still an open canvas.

Speaker 2:

It was really great to have you on the show. I really appreciate you spending the time here.

Speaker 3:

Thank you. Thank you Sharing your story with everybody. Thank you for having me. Thank you All right.

Speaker 2:

Well, this is your host, Tanot, on another episode of the Intel Podcast and another episode of the.

Speaker 1:

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